Speaker 1: Hello, dear Healthy Ish family. Happy day. Hope you are
Speaker 1: having a brilliant one. I am Felicity Harley. Oh today's
Speaker 1: EP is a goodie if I do say so myself.
Speaker 1: We have two fantastic guests joining us from their HQ
Speaker 1: in Melbourne. Laura Henshaw and Steph Claire Smith are the
Speaker 1: wellness moguls who disrupted the fitness industry by building a
Speaker 1: community with acceptance, body positivity and connection at its heart. Look,
Speaker 1: I know you love these women and admire them as
Speaker 1: I do. The female founders of Kick have joined forces
Speaker 1: with Body and Soul to launch our Health of the
Speaker 1: Nation campaign for twenty twenty five. We're going to hear
Speaker 1: more about that today, but also they share their advice
Speaker 1: and their personal experience on creating lasting and sustainable habits.
Speaker 1: They also share their tips on how to find the
Speaker 1: motivation you need for your fittest year yet. Steph Laura,
Speaker 1: welcome back to Healthy Ish. How are you both.
Speaker 2: Very well and we're very honored to be back.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, happy, It's my first interview of the year, So
Speaker 1: there we go.
Speaker 4: It's always that thing when you get back to working,
Speaker 4: jam might be halfway through or even later in Jen
Speaker 4: but you still want to say happy years of those Yeahn't.
Speaker 2: Is that weird?
Speaker 1: I mean we are nearly weird share impiness. Anyway, let's
Speaker 1: talk about this exciting Health of the Nation campaign. You've
Speaker 1: joined forces with Body and Soul. Why is this important
Speaker 1: to you both?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I mean for us, we just think it could be
Speaker 2: more aligned.
Speaker 4: So us so keep We're all about making health and
Speaker 4: fitness more accessible, sustainable and enjoyable.
Speaker 2: But partnering with.
Speaker 4: Health with the Nation just means that we can do
Speaker 4: that at such a larger scale, reaching Ausis and such
Speaker 4: a nationwide scale, which is so exciting. There's a lot
Speaker 4: of information out there and a lot of misinformation and
Speaker 4: we like to kind of cut through the noise and
Speaker 4: make sure that you get the information you can trust.
Speaker 4: And I think when it comes to fitness and movement,
Speaker 4: it's all about small, sustainable habits and making those changes slowly.
Speaker 4: So we want people to focus on how fitness makes
Speaker 4: them feel, not how it makes them look. And we're
Speaker 4: really excited to be able to do that alongside Health
Speaker 4: of the Nation.
Speaker 3: To ensure that.
Speaker 2: Ossie's making sure that their worth is not what their
Speaker 2: weight is. It's much more than.
Speaker 1: That, absolutely, amen, or what they look like? What about
Speaker 1: that for you? What does it mean to you?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I I mean so much.
Speaker 5: I think as they've said, it's the scale of being
Speaker 5: able to help.
Speaker 3: Because when we started Kick for both of us in.
Speaker 1: Time is a tiny habit back was that by the way, twenty.
Speaker 3: Fifteen was the official start. So we've almost been years.
Speaker 2: Ten years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's amazing when you look back, it
Speaker 5: doesn't it feels like one hundred but also one Yeah.
Speaker 5: The same time, I think for us when we think
Speaker 5: back of you know, why we started Kick.
Speaker 3: Obviously we both went through I shouldn't say obviously. I'm
Speaker 3: sure there were people that will have no idea, they
Speaker 3: never a should people know us story.
Speaker 5: But when we started, we both went through our kind
Speaker 5: of own journey with body dysmorphia and having to kind
Speaker 5: of rebuild our relationship with ourselves but also wellness. But
Speaker 5: before that, Steph and I grew up in a very
Speaker 5: privileged environment where we were empowered with tools on how
Speaker 5: to move our body, trying different things, experimenting with different
Speaker 5: workout types through sports was a great experience in school
Speaker 5: for both of us. We know that we are like
Speaker 5: there are a lot of people that that isn't their
Speaker 5: experience that they have. We also grew up understanding how
Speaker 5: to eat well, what healthy food was, how to cook,
Speaker 5: how to look after our mind, all of these things
Speaker 5: that are very very important in helping us lead a
Speaker 5: healthy lifestyle and feeling good because that's what it's about.
Speaker 3: And I think for both of us in.
Speaker 5: Completely losing that when we went down a path of
Speaker 5: comparison and really, as Steph kind of said before speaking
Speaker 5: about weight like our was our worst and that was
Speaker 5: due to Bodes being in the modeling industry, but also
Speaker 5: social media really exacerbating it. And we've seen in some
Speaker 5: of the data that's come out from the study from
Speaker 5: Alpath the nation that especially within the with gen zs,
Speaker 5: their motivation for working out, very sadly is body image
Speaker 5: and looks, and I think that speaks a lot to
Speaker 5: the pressure of social media. So for us in being
Speaker 5: able to rebuild that relationship and then starting kick when
Speaker 5: we did back in twenty fifteen, a big part of
Speaker 5: that was because we knew that not everyone grew up
Speaker 5: with that privilege of knowing, you know, how to move
Speaker 5: their bodies, especially for people that come out of high school,
Speaker 5: you don't have that weekly sport in your calendar, what
Speaker 5: do you do?
Speaker 2: Where do you start? How do you know?
Speaker 5: And especially if it's been something where you've felt and
Speaker 5: even for both of us, like, confidence is such a
Speaker 5: big thing when it comes to moving your body. Like
Speaker 5: we own a health and wellness brand, and I still
Speaker 5: walk into the gym and think, oh my goodness, who
Speaker 5: am I to be here? I don't know how to
Speaker 5: use it? Is everyone looking at it? So we know that,
Speaker 5: you know, is everyone looking at me? We know that people.
Speaker 5: That's something that we kind of a lot of people
Speaker 5: struggle with and that's why we started kick is because
Speaker 5: we wanted to empower as many people as possible with
Speaker 5: the tools to live a healthy lifestyle in their way,
Speaker 5: which is why we have fifteen different workout types, so
Speaker 5: many different trainers, different programs, you know, recipes, et cetera.
Speaker 5: Because we know there's not one size fix all approach
Speaker 5: and it's really important to experiment with you know, what
Speaker 5: you might like or what you don't will help with
Speaker 5: motivation and so when the opportunity, but of course as well,
Speaker 5: in that without all of the bullshit around diet culture,
Speaker 5: so when you come into the app We don't have
Speaker 5: before and after photos. We don't get you to weigh yourself.
Speaker 5: There's no transformation photos. There's no you know, measuring your
Speaker 5: arms to see how much you can lose off your arms.
Speaker 5: All of those things that take away from the real
Speaker 5: kind of essence of why we should be moving our bodies,
Speaker 5: which is for how we feel, and that is how
Speaker 5: you build sustainable, healthy habits, and so to be able
Speaker 5: to do it with body and soul and with health
Speaker 5: of the nation at this scale is like, I think
Speaker 5: we hadn't told ourselves back in twenty fifteen when we
Speaker 5: started that we'd have this opportunity to be like no,
Speaker 5: like wouldn't believe it, So it's really special.
Speaker 1: We're well done now. As part of the campaign, there
Speaker 1: was a report done. About three thousand odd women and
Speaker 1: men took part in this and they found some really
Speaker 1: interesting findings and perhaps I mean I found someone really
Speaker 1: concerning and some inspiring. Were there any that surprised you
Speaker 1: around fitness specifically.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say too surprising.
Speaker 4: I mean, we obviously speak to about community and the
Speaker 4: bader community in the space often, so a lot of
Speaker 4: it wasn't too surprising.
Speaker 2: I think the point that Laura brought up earlier.
Speaker 4: Though with gen zs a lot of them coming through
Speaker 4: with body image. I think that just speaks volume to
Speaker 4: social media and the impact that that can have on
Speaker 4: people's body image and everything, and so I think that
Speaker 4: was quite telling and upsetting for us. I think for
Speaker 4: millennial a lot of us have kind of moved through
Speaker 4: that era of you know, wanting to be as skinny
Speaker 4: as possible and nothing tastes as good as skinny feels,
Speaker 4: et cetera. That toxic messaging that we grew up with,
Speaker 4: and we've moved on to focusing on a mental health
Speaker 4: and a physical health, which is awesome to prioritize. And
Speaker 4: then we saw that gen X's was around weight management,
Speaker 4: which kind of is no surprise when it comes to
Speaker 4: the messaging that they also grew up with in the media.
Speaker 4: And then boomers have kind of got it right with longevity,
Speaker 4: and maybe that comes with age and realizing, you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's much less exactly exactly.
Speaker 4: But I think it is really interesting to see the
Speaker 4: different motivators behind each generation. But I think obviously with
Speaker 4: what we're trying to do, we're hoping to ensure that
Speaker 4: no matter someone's age, that their why is less focused
Speaker 4: on the way that they look and much more about
Speaker 4: how they feel.
Speaker 1: Well, let's pick up on that why, because one piece
Speaker 1: of advice I think with you, Steph, you told our
Speaker 1: print edition was one way to get your motive and
Speaker 1: consistency and build these habits that so many of us
Speaker 1: struggle with is finding your why and using it as fuel.
Speaker 1: Perhaps talk to us about this, like, what is your why?
Speaker 1: How do we find it? If we have it, how
Speaker 1: do we turn it into you know, the motivation and
Speaker 1: consistency that so many of us struggle with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4: I think first of all, I want to acknowledge that
Speaker 4: for a lot of us, within working out our why,
Speaker 4: a lot of people are going to have some sort
Speaker 4: of esthetic come to mind because we all have insecurities.
Speaker 4: That's totally normal. We're taught to want to shrink ourselves
Speaker 4: or fix ourselves. So it's not anyone's fault that that
Speaker 4: comes up when you think about why I want to exercise,
Speaker 4: And it's also okay if that's still lingering on in
Speaker 4: the background, But what's important is trying to find the
Speaker 4: otherwise that that are more important, And I suppose speaks
Speaker 4: that longevity of a sustainable approach to health and wellness,
Speaker 4: because when we speak to our community who have gone
Speaker 4: through phases, and we were the same as well, where
Speaker 4: their why was solely focused on the way that they
Speaker 4: looked they were just never get to that goal, or
Speaker 4: even if they did get to that physical goal, and
Speaker 4: maybe it was a weight or a measurement or something,
Speaker 4: they still weren't happy with themselves and they still wanted
Speaker 4: to do more.
Speaker 2: And because of that.
Speaker 4: Drive, it can be really unmotivating as well if you
Speaker 4: don't actually get there or you're not losing that last
Speaker 4: five and there's a reason why it's the last five,
Speaker 4: you know, it's the five that we fluctuate, particularly as women,
Speaker 4: which is completely normal and totally healthy, and to lose
Speaker 4: that you have to go into some pretty unhealthy habits
Speaker 4: to get there.
Speaker 2: So I think it can be really unmotivating though, if
Speaker 2: your main.
Speaker 4: Focus is getting to a physical goal and then you
Speaker 4: feel like you're not reaching it, it's like, oh why
Speaker 4: am I even bothering and give up all together? And
Speaker 4: so if you're focusing on other things that can help
Speaker 4: on those days, particularly when the insecurity is allowed in
Speaker 4: your head. But it's also because when we're focusing on
Speaker 4: our aesthetics a lot of the time, our workouts can
Speaker 4: become punishments, so we're not necessarily finding movement that makes
Speaker 4: us feel good. We're finding movement that maybe burns the
Speaker 4: most calories or like, I don't know, it just makes
Speaker 4: you feel like you've worked up t the box exactly.
Speaker 2: And then that.
Speaker 4: Can be super unmotivating too, because it means that when
Speaker 4: the next workout is coming along, you're dreading it before
Speaker 4: it's even begun instead of looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: Or you know, when you find movement that you enjoy,
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 4: To say that every day, you know, we've found movement
Speaker 4: that we enjoy, but it's not to say that every
Speaker 4: day we're like super pumped.
Speaker 2: Again the gym, we'll go for a run.
Speaker 4: Like, motivation is still hard to come by sometimes, but
Speaker 4: I think finding your why and that being the fuel
Speaker 4: and it being outside of what you look like is
Speaker 4: a really really important one. If you want to sustain.
Speaker 1: What's your wife then stiff Does it change? Is it?
Speaker 1: I mean during pregnancy does it shift? How does what
Speaker 1: happens to it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Totally.
Speaker 4: I think since being a mom like my wife is
Speaker 4: definitely more so on longevity, like being there for my
Speaker 4: kids and hopefully their kids and everything like that, Like
Speaker 4: that's super important.
Speaker 2: But I think on the daily I am a much more.
Speaker 4: Energized and happier person when I've got movement within my routine,
Speaker 4: Like I see, it affects my mental health so so much.
Speaker 2: So that's my.
Speaker 4: Kind of daily motivator for sure. But as you said,
Speaker 4: like during pregnancy, I think what's important for me. I
Speaker 4: was fortunate enough to keep up some movement, mobility and
Speaker 4: strength in my first pregnancy, and I think it really
Speaker 4: helps me with my birth and then you know, rebuilding
Speaker 4: my muscle strength and everything when returning to exercise later as.
Speaker 2: Well, Like I think it helped with all of that.
Speaker 2: So that's also keeping you that demanded this time.
Speaker 1: Now, Laura, a lot of us know your why, well
Speaker 1: is he why to run?
Speaker 2: Like, talk to us.
Speaker 1: About your why because I also think part of why
Speaker 1: I is also setting some sort of goal or aspiration
Speaker 1: or something you want to hit because that also gets
Speaker 1: you out of bed. So talk to us about how
Speaker 1: your wife fits in with all your amazing marathons that
Speaker 1: you have run and intend to run.
Speaker 3: So when I was training for the new York Marathon.
Speaker 5: I obviously had the goal of you know, wanting to
Speaker 5: run the full forty two kilometer distance, which other was
Speaker 5: so grateful to be able to do. But the reason
Speaker 5: I did the marathon, and my why in doing that
Speaker 5: actually wasn't to tike a marathon off kind of off
Speaker 5: my list. It was because I have put my health
Speaker 5: second to everything for such a long time. Which the
Speaker 5: irony that we run a health of bosus that where
Speaker 5: here telling people, you know, preaching, but you know I wasn't.
Speaker 3: What's the saying do as I say, but don't say
Speaker 3: as I do?
Speaker 1: Totally?
Speaker 5: But yeah, that for me, I was in twenty twenty
Speaker 5: three in particular, I was almost injured for the entire year.
Speaker 5: I think I spent about five to six months injured.
Speaker 5: I had a buil bulge disc in my back. I
Speaker 5: just continued to I was definitely burnt out. I was
Speaker 5: not putting myself first. Every my workout was the first.
Speaker 2: Thing to go. I wasn't prioritizing my physio, for.
Speaker 5: Example, was for me very important in rebuilding back from
Speaker 5: my injury. But I every time there'd be a meeting
Speaker 5: that went on top of it, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I just can't make it, like push myself to.
Speaker 3: The bottom of the list. And so in doing the marathon,
Speaker 3: in saying yes.
Speaker 5: To it, I knew that I had to say yes
Speaker 5: to myself because there is no way. I mean, I've
Speaker 5: seen like some young guys wrought being marathonist, but I
Speaker 5: actually I don't think that's, you know, a great way,
Speaker 5: because you're going to be injured and feel shogging for
Speaker 5: such a.
Speaker 1: Long time look good on social media but not good
Speaker 1: for you, but exactly not going to.
Speaker 2: Be your body.
Speaker 5: So I knew I wasn't going to do that, and
Speaker 5: I wanted to train properly, and so I knew that
Speaker 5: if I did it, I had to commit to myself.
Speaker 3: I had to strup for myself. I had to go
Speaker 3: to the vizio, et cetera.
Speaker 5: And that for me was a really important thing to
Speaker 5: do for myself. And it was almost like for me
Speaker 5: telling myself that and this was my wife, that I'm
Speaker 5: worthy of this time and I'm worthy to take care
Speaker 5: of myself. And that was very very empowering for me.
Speaker 5: And in doing that now it's interesting. I was reading
Speaker 5: an article the other day on the cart which was
Speaker 5: talking about the Donald Trump administration and how that's obviously
Speaker 5: making women feel you know, in America, bet around the world,
Speaker 5: and a lot of them are turning to exercise. And
Speaker 5: I thought it was great, yeah, because it spoke about
Speaker 5: it and I related to it so much, like you move
Speaker 5: your body because you want to feel strong and empowered,
Speaker 5: and it means that you feel like you take your
Speaker 5: power back.
Speaker 2: So especially in times.
Speaker 5: Where you know there's people in power that are so
Speaker 5: unaligned with ourselves and take autonomy away from women in particular,
Speaker 5: I think it's really amazing that with something like exercise
Speaker 5: and looking after yourself, you can take some of that
Speaker 5: back and in feeling empowered and strong.
Speaker 2: So that's also one for me.
Speaker 5: And I think the other thing to note on the
Speaker 5: why as well and why it's so important is because
Speaker 5: we can have our big goals, but the most important
Speaker 5: thing is focusing on how you want to feel today.
Speaker 2: That is what's going to get you to.
Speaker 5: Move your body, to look after your body, to take
Speaker 5: care of your body. Because if we're focusing in six
Speaker 5: months time on a goal, you know that after maybe
Speaker 5: three weeks in, we know, like on the tenth of jown,
Speaker 5: it's quit. As dates when most people quit their resolutions right,
Speaker 5: the motivation wears off, it gets tough, and then it's
Speaker 5: so easy to give up because the.
Speaker 3: Goal can feel so far away.
Speaker 5: So it's really important to try and find something that
Speaker 5: you can think of in this today.
Speaker 3: I want to feel empowered.
Speaker 2: I want to feel strong.
Speaker 5: I want to feel energized, you know, to help you
Speaker 5: work towards whatever your goals are, because that I assigned
Speaker 5: to me is what actually gets me up. And because
Speaker 5: it's not oh, I'll feel amazing in six months, it's
Speaker 5: I'm going to feel really good today.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean for me, I'm one hundred percent on your
Speaker 1: page because I think if I'm struggling to go out
Speaker 1: for a run, or struggling to do go to the
Speaker 1: you know, do some strength training or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: I always say to my little man Trees, how will
Speaker 1: I feel afterwards? And the answer is always amazing. Well
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time. It's really the feeling that
Speaker 1: you should be focusing on when you're struggling with motivation.
Speaker 3: Totally, we'll be.
Speaker 1: Back after the shot break with more from Steph and Laura. Now,
Speaker 1: the other thing that came up in the Health of
Speaker 1: Nation report was consistency and I was on your page
Speaker 1: and one of your guiding ethos kick is to make
Speaker 1: healthy living as sustainable as possible. What's the secret when
Speaker 1: it comes to fitness? How can we create a sustainable
Speaker 1: workout plan or routine or something that will see us
Speaker 1: through well.
Speaker 4: I think motivation comes into it a lot when it
Speaker 4: comes to consistency, and I think where a lot of
Speaker 4: people go wrong is by setting kind of a goal
Speaker 4: in which the routine is taking their part of routine.
Speaker 2: From zero to one hundred.
Speaker 4: And we really encourage people to start small and build
Speaker 4: healthy habits.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a whole reason why.
Speaker 4: And with our New Year kind of challenge, the workouts
Speaker 4: were between five to twenty minutes long and there was
Speaker 4: three of them a week, so we weren't trying to
Speaker 4: overhaul people's lives with this new routine that meant that.
Speaker 2: They were going to have to spend an hour of
Speaker 2: movement every single day.
Speaker 4: It's about finding what works for you, what makes you
Speaker 4: feel good, and what can fit in your lifestyle. And
Speaker 4: so if you feel like you've been I know people
Speaker 4: call it like a rut of routine and you want
Speaker 4: to kind of start movement again, but you're not really
Speaker 4: sure where to start, Like, don't start by going to
Speaker 4: the gym six days a week and kind of expecting
Speaker 4: that it's just going to kick you into gear and
Speaker 4: you're going to be motivated to go every day. You
Speaker 4: can start with the goals, say you might want to
Speaker 4: be able to run five k this year or something
Speaker 4: like that, and that can definitely help having some sort
Speaker 4: of goal in mind, but it's really figuring out how
Speaker 4: you're going to get there and what that routine is
Speaker 4: actually going to look like for you and your lifestyle,
Speaker 4: and whether or not that's going to be sustainable. So
Speaker 4: that's like the first thing I think that helps with consistency,
Speaker 4: And I think the other big one is redefining.
Speaker 2: What a workout looks like to you.
Speaker 4: So I think for me, the only way that I
Speaker 4: can stay consistent with movement is by being more flexible
Speaker 4: with how I define a workout.
Speaker 2: It definitely used to be, oh, it's.
Speaker 4: Got to be like forty five minutes long, it's got
Speaker 4: to be in a gym, got to be using weights,
Speaker 4: or've got to be getting a sweat on to count.
Speaker 2: You know, that was my mindset a long time ago.
Speaker 4: And when I had that mindset if I didn't have
Speaker 4: forty five minutes, it was like, oh well, I might
Speaker 4: as well do nothing.
Speaker 1: And then you beat yourself up for not doing anything totally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, but it can then be really easy to
Speaker 4: give up altogether as well.
Speaker 2: So for me now every week looks so different.
Speaker 4: You know, I have my intentions of what I know
Speaker 4: the golden routine would be for me.
Speaker 2: I'm like the best.
Speaker 4: Week of my life, but more often than not, it
Speaker 4: doesn't look that way. But what I do do is
Speaker 4: roll out the mat. If I know my intention was
Speaker 4: to move that day, maybe sleep didn't go as well
Speaker 4: as planned, or I'm not going to get time to
Speaker 4: go to the gym today, So I'm going to roll
Speaker 4: out my mat in between.
Speaker 2: My toddler's toys on the.
Speaker 4: Floor in front of BLUEI and get at least ten
Speaker 4: minutes of politis done and just see how I feel.
Speaker 4: If I've got more time up my sleeve and I've
Speaker 4: found more motivation and energy from that ten minutes, maybe
Speaker 4: I'll stack on another.
Speaker 2: But more often than not, even that.
Speaker 4: Ten minutes just makes me feel really really good about
Speaker 4: prioritizing that time for myself. So since redefining it, I've
Speaker 4: actually been way more consistent with my training because I
Speaker 4: don't put.
Speaker 2: The pressure on it looking a certain way.
Speaker 3: And it's mad setting yourself up for success, right, And
Speaker 3: that's why with the challenge that we designed with Health
Speaker 3: of the Nation that obviously everyone has access to for
Speaker 3: a month.
Speaker 5: That has been designed very similarly to what SEF was
Speaker 5: saying right our New Year Challenge. It's four weeks, it's
Speaker 5: three workouts a week, they're five five to twenty minutes.
Speaker 5: And the reason for that is we want to set
Speaker 5: people up for success. We know a lot of people
Speaker 5: will be starting from a loan baseline or they've been
Speaker 5: out of routine for a long time, and so it's
Speaker 5: not about you know setting, I mean, you do set.
Speaker 3: Yourself up for failure. If you expect yourself to do
Speaker 3: six movements.
Speaker 5: A week and they are an hour when you go
Speaker 5: from zero, right, that's really really hard and so it's
Speaker 5: really important. It was really important to us in designing
Speaker 5: this challenge. It's in that we designed something that would
Speaker 5: set people up for success so when they finish, they
Speaker 5: feel empowered. They think, Okay, how can I keep this
Speaker 5: in my routine? How can I build on this? Instead
Speaker 5: of you know, maybe going really hard for two weeks
Speaker 5: and thinking, oh my goodness, exercise is just not for me,
Speaker 5: that I can never make this work.
Speaker 1: I think your point, Steph was really good because so
Speaker 1: many of us are conditioned to think we should do
Speaker 1: three workouts a week. They need to be forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: and if we don't do it, you know, we feel
Speaker 1: guilty or we beat ourselves up about it. But being
Speaker 1: more flexible really is the key. How do you both
Speaker 1: approach your weeks of workouts? I mean, do you put
Speaker 1: them in your diary? Do you think, okay, this is
Speaker 1: my ideal, but if I meet this that's okay? Or
Speaker 1: how do you yeah, how do you both do this?
Speaker 4: Scheduling in workouts is a really, really good good way
Speaker 4: to do it. I definitely do it for my gym workouts.
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean that it always stays on the day that
Speaker 4: I've done it, but then I always try and find
Speaker 4: that hour somewhere else that I can still get there.
Speaker 4: But I think when you have something scheduled in, just
Speaker 4: treat it like an appointment or a catch up with
Speaker 4: a girlfriend, like you wouldn't want to cancel.
Speaker 2: So don't councel on yourself. And again, it might mean that.
Speaker 4: You might have originally put half an hour of Matt
Speaker 4: Polarate's down for your morning, but you decided you really
Speaker 4: needed a sleep in, so you've only got time for ten.
Speaker 4: But don't rule it out, like, don't think I don't
Speaker 4: have half an hour anymore, so I won't do it
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 2: And that's what I do.
Speaker 4: So I have like the intention to visit the gym
Speaker 4: at least twice a week because strength training just makes
Speaker 4: feel incredibly empowered and I love it and I want
Speaker 4: to try and keep up my strength, particularly through pregnancy.
Speaker 4: And then Matt Polarates is where my flexibility comes in.
Speaker 4: That's where like whether it's five minutes or fifteen minutes
Speaker 4: or it becomes a stack, I just fit it in
Speaker 4: when I can in my week being a mom at
Speaker 4: home with a toddler and depending on his boot. And
Speaker 4: that's the kind of intention I set for myself each
Speaker 4: week and allowing flexibility, and that has meant that it's
Speaker 4: very rare now for me to end a week feeling
Speaker 4: really shitty about myself, because I've found other ways of
Speaker 4: making sure that even if it's five minutes, I'll fit it.
Speaker 2: In, or if I can't get the mad out. It's
Speaker 2: incidental exercise.
Speaker 4: So if there's weeks where I know works really busy,
Speaker 4: sleeps being shocking, it's probably a bad idea to actually
Speaker 4: push myself and go to the gym, because also rest
Speaker 4: is incredibly important. I'll just try and incorporate more incidental exercise,
Speaker 4: like catching the train to work and walking to it
Speaker 4: from a train station or coffee shop, and taking.
Speaker 2: The stairs that work instead of the elevator every day.
Speaker 2: Things like that.
Speaker 1: Laura, you have to be intentionally in some ways because
Speaker 1: you have got a lot of keys to get under
Speaker 1: your belt before your next marathon in April, how do
Speaker 1: you plan your weeks of workouts?
Speaker 5: So I have to plan them and I think when
Speaker 5: I leave And this is the same like outside of
Speaker 5: marathon training and just normal training. If I leave it
Speaker 5: to I'll just do what I feel in the morning.
Speaker 5: It's then I don't have like, especially if I'm trying
Speaker 5: to fit in a workout before work, I'm so much
Speaker 5: more likely to snooze my alarm because i don't know
Speaker 5: what I'm going to be doing.
Speaker 2: I've left myself.
Speaker 5: Mental load, Like in the morning when you wake up
Speaker 5: and you have mental load in deciding what you have
Speaker 5: to want to do.
Speaker 3: And also you want to listen to your body. That's
Speaker 3: very important.
Speaker 5: So if I have planned to do a to say,
Speaker 5: I have a thirty k run on my.
Speaker 3: Training program, I will have that very soon and I can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're.
Speaker 3: Capable.
Speaker 2: It's so much more than we know.
Speaker 5: I have that, and I feel shocking in that morning.
Speaker 5: I will of course not do that. But you have
Speaker 5: to plan otherwise. When you leave yourself the mental load
Speaker 5: in the morning, it's like it's so much harder to
Speaker 5: be motivated because you're giving yourself another task to have
Speaker 5: to get through to be able to start your workout.
Speaker 5: So planning it is so important. Whether you're in or
Speaker 5: out of marathon training, it doesn't matter. And then I
Speaker 5: also find that even things like leaving my clothes out
Speaker 5: the night before, I know, this is the most obvious
Speaker 5: tip that I feel like everyone talks about.
Speaker 4: Works.
Speaker 5: Again, it's one less thing off your mental load, right
Speaker 5: that then in the morning you're like, Okay, I've prepared
Speaker 5: this for myself. I've made it so easy. I just
Speaker 5: have to put the clothes on and go. I find
Speaker 5: that helps a lot. But yeah, a lot of especially
Speaker 5: with marathon training. I've got a planet in my calendar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree, even as someone who like can't
Speaker 4: necessarily plan that far ahead. If I know I'm going
Speaker 4: to the intention to roll out my mat in the morning,
Speaker 4: I'll look the night before at what polarates pass if obviously,
Speaker 4: unless I'm following the challenges on or whatever or a program,
Speaker 4: I'll just go through, explore our different palties classes and
Speaker 4: pick the night before and schedule it in.
Speaker 2: Because it is true.
Speaker 4: You do, you put everything you try and like, oh
Speaker 4: and then they'll make a coffee.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, well just I have to go on
Speaker 1: to now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: And so if it's already there and you've already picked it,
Speaker 4: it does make it quick to get into it.
Speaker 1: Now you're coming on board. You're kind of like the
Speaker 1: nation's cheerleaders. You want to get you know, many people active,
Speaker 1: many people back into fitness. Inspire them to maybe hit
Speaker 1: that marathon goal or whatever they're achieving, or the baby goal,
Speaker 1: baby baby making marathon goal, your fitness inspirations. Who inspires
Speaker 1: you when it comes to health and wellness.
Speaker 4: It's funny every time I hear the word cheerleader, I
Speaker 4: just get flashbacks of all the tryouts that I had
Speaker 4: in high school and didn't get into cheerleader, right.
Speaker 2: Okay, really wanted to be in.
Speaker 4: But I think we're really lucky, particularly like with our
Speaker 4: business journey, but you know, on this topic, our sitness
Speaker 4: journey is having each other the.
Speaker 2: Whole way through. Basically, like we met each.
Speaker 4: Other when we were at our lowest point with our
Speaker 4: body image and our relationship with food and exercise. So
Speaker 4: I think going through that and growing through that with
Speaker 4: someone just means that you're you're each other's biggest cheerleader.
Speaker 2: And seeing kind of the ups and downs of.
Speaker 4: Life and our twenties and everything and figuring it out
Speaker 4: has been really special to kind of be there for
Speaker 4: one another, and I love it.
Speaker 2: Like obviously when she's going through a marathon training, I
Speaker 2: just think it's absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Insane, But I think being her best friend as well,
Speaker 4: like watching laws go through that year of really not
Speaker 4: prioritizing herself and getting injured a lot and getting sick
Speaker 4: a lot and then being able to flip that made
Speaker 4: me like so proud.
Speaker 2: And I particularly love.
Speaker 4: That she's getting into straight the training because it's something
Speaker 4: that I love to. So yeah, I think I think
Speaker 4: laws and I receive it too, like she's my biggest
Speaker 4: cheerleader as well. I feel like she always notices when
Speaker 4: things are either up or down and is always there
Speaker 4: to kind of pull.
Speaker 2: Me out of it when it's down, which is nice.
Speaker 2: So I would say each other, Okay, Laura, I think.
Speaker 5: Two is sev like obviously being like I am a
Speaker 5: nine hour sleep person, so Seph is probably averaging five
Speaker 5: to six at the moment. Like that to me is
Speaker 5: to see you get up and move your body, and
Speaker 5: it's it's like what we've spoken about. It's not in
Speaker 5: the conventional way that we've been told from Like you know,
Speaker 5: we had to a one hour sweat session. It's like
Speaker 5: doing ten minutes. It's better than nothing. And I think
Speaker 5: that is just amazing to saying to you, to role
Speaker 5: model to like so many.
Speaker 3: Other mums, but also to the not mums. It's yeah,
Speaker 3: super inspirational.
Speaker 5: And I think as well, the kick community is the
Speaker 5: most inspirational place for it because it's so often I'll
Speaker 5: be like, oh, I can't be bothered, and then I'll
Speaker 5: go on the community.
Speaker 3: I can't build the move for my body.
Speaker 5: I'll go on the community and then I'll see that,
Speaker 5: you know, someone has never run before and they started
Speaker 5: the zero to three k program and now they're doing
Speaker 5: a half marathon and you know they've built that up
Speaker 5: over the past six months, and that is I see
Speaker 5: that and I'm like, wow, like I've got this. I
Speaker 5: can go in too, macm and so that's I think
Speaker 5: that's one of the most special things about what we
Speaker 5: do and how we've kind of kick as been founded
Speaker 5: like a community was a part of our business, like
Speaker 5: ethos and just the identity of Kick since the beginning,
Speaker 5: and we've kept it that way, and so it feels
Speaker 5: like we've kind of all built it together, which is
Speaker 5: pretty special.
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