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Speaker 1: Hello, dear Healthy Ish family. Happy day. Hope you are

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Speaker 1: having a brilliant one. I am Felicity Harley. Oh today's

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Speaker 1: EP is a goodie if I do say so myself.

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Speaker 1: We have two fantastic guests joining us from their HQ

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Speaker 1: in Melbourne. Laura Henshaw and Steph Claire Smith are the

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Speaker 1: wellness moguls who disrupted the fitness industry by building a

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Speaker 1: community with acceptance, body positivity and connection at its heart. Look,

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Speaker 1: I know you love these women and admire them as

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Speaker 1: I do. The female founders of Kick have joined forces

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Speaker 1: with Body and Soul to launch our Health of the

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Speaker 1: Nation campaign for twenty twenty five. We're going to hear

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Speaker 1: more about that today, but also they share their advice

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Speaker 1: and their personal experience on creating lasting and sustainable habits.

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Speaker 1: They also share their tips on how to find the

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Speaker 1: motivation you need for your fittest year yet. Steph Laura,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Healthy Ish. How are you both.

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Speaker 2: Very well and we're very honored to be back.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, happy, It's my first interview of the year, So

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Speaker 1: there we go.

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Speaker 4: It's always that thing when you get back to working,

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Speaker 4: jam might be halfway through or even later in Jen

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Speaker 4: but you still want to say happy years of those Yeahn't.

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Speaker 2: Is that weird?

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Speaker 1: I mean we are nearly weird share impiness. Anyway, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about this exciting Health of the Nation campaign. You've

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Speaker 1: joined forces with Body and Soul. Why is this important

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Speaker 1: to you both?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I mean for us, we just think it could be

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Speaker 2: more aligned.

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Speaker 4: So us so keep We're all about making health and

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Speaker 4: fitness more accessible, sustainable and enjoyable.

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Speaker 2: But partnering with.

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Speaker 4: Health with the Nation just means that we can do

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Speaker 4: that at such a larger scale, reaching Ausis and such

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Speaker 4: a nationwide scale, which is so exciting. There's a lot

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Speaker 4: of information out there and a lot of misinformation and

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Speaker 4: we like to kind of cut through the noise and

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Speaker 4: make sure that you get the information you can trust.

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Speaker 4: And I think when it comes to fitness and movement,

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Speaker 4: it's all about small, sustainable habits and making those changes slowly.

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Speaker 4: So we want people to focus on how fitness makes

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Speaker 4: them feel, not how it makes them look. And we're

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Speaker 4: really excited to be able to do that alongside Health

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Speaker 4: of the Nation.

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Speaker 3: To ensure that.

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Speaker 2: Ossie's making sure that their worth is not what their

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Speaker 2: weight is. It's much more than.

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Speaker 1: That, absolutely, amen, or what they look like? What about

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Speaker 1: that for you? What does it mean to you?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I I mean so much.

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Speaker 5: I think as they've said, it's the scale of being

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Speaker 3: Because when we started Kick for both of us in.

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Speaker 1: Time is a tiny habit back was that by the way, twenty.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen was the official start. So we've almost been years.

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Speaker 2: Ten years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's amazing when you look back, it

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Speaker 5: doesn't it feels like one hundred but also one Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The same time, I think for us when we think

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Speaker 3: Obviously we both went through I shouldn't say obviously. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure there were people that will have no idea, they

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Speaker 5: But when we started, we both went through our kind

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Speaker 5: of own journey with body dysmorphia and having to kind

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Speaker 5: of rebuild our relationship with ourselves but also wellness. But

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Speaker 5: before that, Steph and I grew up in a very

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Speaker 5: for both of us. We know that we are like

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Speaker 5: that are very very important in helping us lead a

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Speaker 3: And I think for both of us in.

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Speaker 5: Completely losing that when we went down a path of

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Speaker 5: comparison and really, as Steph kind of said before speaking

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Speaker 5: you don't have that weekly sport in your calendar, what

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Speaker 2: Where do you start? How do you know?

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Speaker 5: And especially if it's been something where you've felt and

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Speaker 5: That's something that we kind of a lot of people

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Speaker 5: which is why we have fifteen different workout types, so

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Speaker 5: There's no transformation photos. There's no you know, measuring your

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Speaker 5: All of those things that take away from the real

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Speaker 1: We're well done now. As part of the campaign, there

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Speaker 1: interesting findings and perhaps I mean I found someone really

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Speaker 2: I think the point that Laura brought up earlier.

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Speaker 4: Though with gen zs a lot of them coming through

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Speaker 4: And then boomers have kind of got it right with longevity,

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Speaker 4: But I think it is really interesting to see the

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Speaker 1: Perhaps talk to us about this, like, what is your why?

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Speaker 2: So I think it can be really unmotivating though, if

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Speaker 1: the other thing that came up in the Health of

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Speaker 5: A week and they are an hour when you go

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Speaker 5: from zero, right, that's really really hard and so it's

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Speaker 5: really important. It was really important to us in designing

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Speaker 5: this challenge. It's in that we designed something that would

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Speaker 5: set people up for success so when they finish, they

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Speaker 5: feel empowered. They think, Okay, how can I keep this

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Speaker 5: in my routine? How can I build on this? Instead

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Speaker 5: of you know, maybe going really hard for two weeks

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Speaker 5: and thinking, oh my goodness, exercise is just not for me,

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Speaker 5: that I can never make this work.

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Speaker 1: I think your point, Steph was really good because so

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Speaker 1: many of us are conditioned to think we should do

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Speaker 1: three workouts a week. They need to be forty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: and if we don't do it, you know, we feel

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Speaker 1: guilty or we beat ourselves up about it. But being

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Speaker 1: more flexible really is the key. How do you both

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Speaker 1: approach your weeks of workouts? I mean, do you put

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Speaker 1: them in your diary? Do you think, okay, this is

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Speaker 1: my ideal, but if I meet this that's okay? Or

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Speaker 1: how do you yeah, how do you both do this?

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Speaker 4: Scheduling in workouts is a really, really good good way

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Speaker 4: to do it. I definitely do it for my gym workouts.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't mean that it always stays on the day that

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Speaker 4: I've done it, but then I always try and find

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Speaker 4: that hour somewhere else that I can still get there.

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Speaker 4: But I think when you have something scheduled in, just

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Speaker 4: treat it like an appointment or a catch up with

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Speaker 4: a girlfriend, like you wouldn't want to cancel.

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Speaker 2: So don't councel on yourself. And again, it might mean that.

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Speaker 4: You might have originally put half an hour of Matt

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Speaker 4: Polarate's down for your morning, but you decided you really

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Speaker 4: needed a sleep in, so you've only got time for ten.

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Speaker 4: But don't rule it out, like, don't think I don't

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Speaker 4: have half an hour anymore, so I won't do it

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Speaker 4: at all.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I do.

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Speaker 4: So I have like the intention to visit the gym

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Speaker 4: at least twice a week because strength training just makes

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Speaker 4: feel incredibly empowered and I love it and I want

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Speaker 4: to try and keep up my strength, particularly through pregnancy.

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Speaker 4: And then Matt Polarates is where my flexibility comes in.

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Speaker 4: That's where like whether it's five minutes or fifteen minutes

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Speaker 4: or it becomes a stack, I just fit it in

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Speaker 4: when I can in my week being a mom at

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Speaker 4: home with a toddler and depending on his boot. And

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Speaker 4: that's the kind of intention I set for myself each

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Speaker 4: week and allowing flexibility, and that has meant that it's

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Speaker 4: very rare now for me to end a week feeling

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Speaker 4: really shitty about myself, because I've found other ways of

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Speaker 4: making sure that even if it's five minutes, I'll fit it.

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Speaker 2: In, or if I can't get the mad out. It's

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Speaker 2: incidental exercise.

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Speaker 4: So if there's weeks where I know works really busy,

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Speaker 4: sleeps being shocking, it's probably a bad idea to actually

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Speaker 4: push myself and go to the gym, because also rest

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Speaker 4: is incredibly important. I'll just try and incorporate more incidental exercise,

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Speaker 4: like catching the train to work and walking to it

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Speaker 4: from a train station or coffee shop, and taking.

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Speaker 2: The stairs that work instead of the elevator every day.

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Speaker 2: Things like that.

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Speaker 1: Laura, you have to be intentionally in some ways because

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Speaker 1: you have got a lot of keys to get under

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Speaker 1: your belt before your next marathon in April, how do

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Speaker 1: you plan your weeks of workouts?

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Speaker 5: So I have to plan them and I think when

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Speaker 5: I leave And this is the same like outside of

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Speaker 5: marathon training and just normal training. If I leave it

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Speaker 5: to I'll just do what I feel in the morning.

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Speaker 5: It's then I don't have like, especially if I'm trying

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Speaker 5: to fit in a workout before work, I'm so much

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Speaker 5: more likely to snooze my alarm because i don't know

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Speaker 5: what I'm going to be doing.

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Speaker 2: I've left myself.

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Speaker 5: Mental load, Like in the morning when you wake up

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Speaker 5: and you have mental load in deciding what you have

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Speaker 5: to want to do.

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Speaker 3: And also you want to listen to your body. That's

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Speaker 3: very important.

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Speaker 5: So if I have planned to do a to say,

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Speaker 5: I have a thirty k run on my.

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Speaker 3: Training program, I will have that very soon and I can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're.

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Speaker 3: Capable.

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Speaker 2: It's so much more than we know.

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Speaker 5: I have that, and I feel shocking in that morning.

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Speaker 5: I will of course not do that. But you have

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Speaker 5: to plan otherwise. When you leave yourself the mental load

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Speaker 5: in the morning, it's like it's so much harder to

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Speaker 5: be motivated because you're giving yourself another task to have

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Speaker 5: to get through to be able to start your workout.

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Speaker 5: So planning it is so important. Whether you're in or

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Speaker 5: out of marathon training, it doesn't matter. And then I

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Speaker 5: also find that even things like leaving my clothes out

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Speaker 5: the night before, I know, this is the most obvious

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Speaker 5: tip that I feel like everyone talks about.

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Speaker 4: Works.

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Speaker 5: Again, it's one less thing off your mental load, right

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Speaker 5: that then in the morning you're like, Okay, I've prepared

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Speaker 5: this for myself. I've made it so easy. I just

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Speaker 5: have to put the clothes on and go. I find

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Speaker 5: that helps a lot. But yeah, a lot of especially

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Speaker 5: with marathon training. I've got a planet in my calendar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree, even as someone who like can't

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Speaker 4: necessarily plan that far ahead. If I know I'm going

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Speaker 4: to the intention to roll out my mat in the morning,

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Speaker 4: I'll look the night before at what polarates pass if obviously,

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Speaker 4: unless I'm following the challenges on or whatever or a program,

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Speaker 4: I'll just go through, explore our different palties classes and

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Speaker 4: pick the night before and schedule it in.

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Speaker 2: Because it is true.

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Speaker 4: You do, you put everything you try and like, oh

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Speaker 4: and then they'll make a coffee.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, well just I have to go on

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Speaker 1: to now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: And so if it's already there and you've already picked it,

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Speaker 4: it does make it quick to get into it.

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Speaker 1: Now you're coming on board. You're kind of like the

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Speaker 1: nation's cheerleaders. You want to get you know, many people active,

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Speaker 1: many people back into fitness. Inspire them to maybe hit

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Speaker 1: that marathon goal or whatever they're achieving, or the baby goal,

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Speaker 1: baby baby making marathon goal, your fitness inspirations. Who inspires

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Speaker 1: you when it comes to health and wellness.

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Speaker 4: It's funny every time I hear the word cheerleader, I

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Speaker 4: just get flashbacks of all the tryouts that I had

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Speaker 4: in high school and didn't get into cheerleader, right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, really wanted to be in.

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Speaker 4: But I think we're really lucky, particularly like with our

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Speaker 4: business journey, but you know, on this topic, our sitness

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Speaker 4: journey is having each other the.

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Speaker 2: Whole way through. Basically, like we met each.

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Speaker 4: Other when we were at our lowest point with our

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Speaker 4: body image and our relationship with food and exercise. So

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Speaker 4: I think going through that and growing through that with

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Speaker 4: someone just means that you're you're each other's biggest cheerleader.

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Speaker 2: And seeing kind of the ups and downs of.

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Speaker 4: Life and our twenties and everything and figuring it out

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Speaker 4: has been really special to kind of be there for

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Speaker 4: one another, and I love it.

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Speaker 2: Like obviously when she's going through a marathon training, I

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Speaker 2: just think it's absolutely phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: Insane, But I think being her best friend as well,

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Speaker 4: like watching laws go through that year of really not

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Speaker 4: prioritizing herself and getting injured a lot and getting sick

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Speaker 4: a lot and then being able to flip that made

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Speaker 4: me like so proud.

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Speaker 2: And I particularly love.

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Speaker 4: That she's getting into straight the training because it's something

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Speaker 4: that I love to. So yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 4: laws and I receive it too, like she's my biggest

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Speaker 4: cheerleader as well. I feel like she always notices when

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Speaker 4: things are either up or down and is always there

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Speaker 4: to kind of pull.

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Speaker 2: Me out of it when it's down, which is nice.

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Speaker 2: So I would say each other, Okay, Laura, I think.

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Speaker 5: Two is sev like obviously being like I am a

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Speaker 5: nine hour sleep person, so Seph is probably averaging five

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Speaker 5: to six at the moment. Like that to me is

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Speaker 5: to see you get up and move your body, and

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Speaker 5: it's it's like what we've spoken about. It's not in

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Speaker 5: the conventional way that we've been told from Like you know,

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Speaker 5: we had to a one hour sweat session. It's like

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Speaker 5: doing ten minutes. It's better than nothing. And I think

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Speaker 5: that is just amazing to saying to you, to role

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Speaker 5: model to like so many.

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Speaker 3: Other mums, but also to the not mums. It's yeah,

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Speaker 3: super inspirational.

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Speaker 5: And I think as well, the kick community is the

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Speaker 5: most inspirational place for it because it's so often I'll

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Speaker 5: be like, oh, I can't be bothered, and then I'll

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Speaker 5: go on the community.

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Speaker 3: I can't build the move for my body.

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Speaker 5: I'll go on the community and then I'll see that,

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Speaker 5: you know, someone has never run before and they started

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Speaker 5: the zero to three k program and now they're doing

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Speaker 5: a half marathon and you know they've built that up

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Speaker 5: over the past six months, and that is I see

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Speaker 5: that and I'm like, wow, like I've got this. I

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Speaker 5: can go in too, macm and so that's I think

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Speaker 5: that's one of the most special things about what we

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Speaker 5: do and how we've kind of kick as been founded

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Speaker 5: like a community was a part of our business, like

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Speaker 5: ethos and just the identity of Kick since the beginning,

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Speaker 5: and we've kept it that way, and so it feels

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Speaker 5: like we've kind of all built it together, which is

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Speaker 5: pretty special.

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