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Speaker 1: Welcome to this special episode of head Game. I'm at

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Speaker 1: AMT Middleton. Today we're looking back at some amazing people

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Speaker 1: who have given them all in the name of sporting glory.

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Speaker 1: They all have different experiences but are united in their grit, determination,

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Speaker 1: high performance mindset. Shortly Bafirst champion Mark Winterbottom on the

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Speaker 1: small win as a child that set him up to

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Speaker 1: take on Mount Panorama. But first he had a footy

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Speaker 1: career that spanned fifteen seasons with three consecutive premierships to

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Speaker 1: his name. Jonathan Brown would go on to kick five

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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four goals over two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: six matches, many of those as captain of the Brisbane Lions,

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Speaker 1: but it was a less than stellar start for the

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Speaker 1: new recruit when he made his debut in the year

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Speaker 1: two thousand.

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Speaker 2: So I just turned down in his ill. You know,

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Speaker 2: I've moved from a small country town to Brisbane. That

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Speaker 2: was like moving to Las Vegas and the bright lights

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Speaker 2: of Brisbane back in the late nineties early two thousands

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Speaker 2: and shit, we had some fun. We used to run

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Speaker 2: about town and I have a lot of fun. So

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Speaker 2: it probably took me a while to develop that professionally,

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Speaker 2: because it wasn't until I get through that first twelve months.

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Speaker 3: I played twelve.

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Speaker 2: Games out of what twenty however many games I played

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Speaker 2: down the AFL twenty three games in a season, played

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Speaker 2: about twelve games. I was in and out of the

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Speaker 2: senior team, dropped between seniors and the reserves. And I

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Speaker 2: went home and I thought it mate actually said to me,

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Speaker 2: this is one mentors are so important, especially for young males,

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Speaker 2: to have that strong male influence over you, whether it

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Speaker 2: be your father or a strong male influence in your life.

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Speaker 2: And he actually said, you know, what do you want

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Speaker 2: to be in your career? You know, do you just

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Speaker 2: probably want to lock a lot of country boys they've

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Speaker 2: sort of head out there, they might have twenty thirty

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Speaker 2: games whatever, and then you're back, you know, after four

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Speaker 2: or five years, then you're back into the country and

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Speaker 2: live in a normal life. Or do you want to

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Speaker 2: have a long, memorable career. And because unless you commit

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Speaker 2: to being a professional athlete in the truest sense of

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Speaker 2: the word.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have a lot of regrets.

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Speaker 2: And it sort of just it struck a chord with me,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, nay, he's right, and yeah, you can

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Speaker 2: still have a good time, but you are a professional

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Speaker 2: and I want to live my dream to the fullest.

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Speaker 2: And I had this unbelievable preseason home boxing. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: he was a made of mind, a mentor, and I

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Speaker 2: spent six weeks hard trading in the gym and what

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Speaker 2: I thought was the pain barrier was absolutely broken and

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Speaker 2: just taken to another level. And that was a really

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Speaker 2: big learning thing for me. And I came back from

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Speaker 2: that six weeks and I turned some heads to Brisbane

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Speaker 2: when it started a preseason, including the coaches, and they

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Speaker 2: were like, shit, what's Brownie been doing.

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Speaker 3: I'd put on weight, I reckon.

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Speaker 2: I was able to increase about eight kilars, put a

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Speaker 2: lot of muscle on. I was super fit. I was

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Speaker 2: really strong, and I was ready to go. And that

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Speaker 2: next season, Lee Matthews came up to me, the coach,

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Speaker 2: come up to me at the start of the season

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Speaker 2: and he said, or you're my key forward, You're my

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Speaker 2: center forward, which is one of the positions on the

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Speaker 2: ground that I played. I'm sticking with you. And you

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Speaker 2: know what, I didn't feel a sense of anxiety around that,

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Speaker 2: because I knew I was prepared. I would have felt

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Speaker 2: anxious if I was still prepared like I was six

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Speaker 2: months earlier, but because I'd done the work, I thought, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I've I'm good to go. I'm ready to accept this opportunity.

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Speaker 2: And we always had this sort of you used to

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Speaker 2: have these signs around the locker room. And I think

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Speaker 2: I had said success is where opportunity and preparation collide.

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Speaker 2: And I'd done the preparation and my opportunity collide. And

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Speaker 2: it's a funny thing happened that year and I played

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Speaker 2: every game and we won a premiership at the end

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Speaker 2: of the year, and I think it's starting of that premiership.

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Speaker 3: Funny ol thing, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Twelve months earlier I was sitting on mum's couch at home,

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Speaker 2: contemplating what I was going to be as a footballer,

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Speaker 2: watching the AFL Grand Final, and twelve months later I

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Speaker 2: living out your dream and just thinking myself, shit, imagine

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Speaker 2: if I had to put that work in and decide

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Speaker 2: to become a real professional. And obviously that was an

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Speaker 1: You know, mentals are great, especially you know, like you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the father figure, and they're great to have as

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Speaker 1: just focusing on the trade itself, having a sort of

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Speaker 1: different part of your game because when you have so

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Speaker 1: much respect I think as a youngster for your father,

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Speaker 1: as we mentioned before, but when an outside influence decisis,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's done out of because they have your

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Speaker 1: best interests at heart. It's not done out of love

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Speaker 1: or unconditional love like your father or family member. It's

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Speaker 1: done out because they actually have your best interests at are.

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Speaker 1: They see the potential that's within you. And when they

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Speaker 1: build you up in such a way, when they invest

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Speaker 1: their time and their experience into you, that type of

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Speaker 1: mentorship is super important. And this is what I say

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Speaker 1: to to anyone you know going through the ranks or

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Speaker 1: you know that younger stage of their life coming through

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Speaker 1: is seek you know, external mentorship, Seek external advice away

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Speaker 1: from the family, because it will just give you a

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Speaker 2: And I think there's an acceptance too away from the

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Speaker 2: family unit, or say from the father in this case, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you probably accept feedback a little bit, because I think

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Speaker 2: it's naturally ingranded us there. We don't you know, we

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Speaker 2: don't accept feedback that well from our parents, especially our

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Speaker 2: old man. Like I try and teach my kids how

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Speaker 2: to kick the footy, and ours daughter she didn't want

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Speaker 2: to listen to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my exact point. It's the same with me when

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Speaker 1: I trained my son and someone will up in the

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Speaker 1: I've told you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about that.

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Speaker 2: Like I talked to dad, and Dad was a school

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Speaker 2: teacher for forty I do you So I grew up

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Speaker 2: on the airy farm but had to go and live

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Speaker 2: his stream to play football, so living in the city,

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Speaker 2: so it became a phyzed teacher. And I asked him

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Speaker 2: about what the biggest thing is the difference in say,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What's the most common denominator? He said, mate in forty

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Speaker 2: two years, by a comfortable margin, is the strong male

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Speaker 2: influence in one's life, whether that be man, male or female.

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Speaker 2: He said, that is the strong that is the strongest

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Speaker 2: common denominator there's that and then there's daylight to the

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Speaker 2: next biggest influence. So that's a really interesting point that

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Speaker 2: he made and obviously that change just how important they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you know when you when you raise that point,

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Speaker 1: it just hit a nerve because I thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've had family influences, whether male or female,

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Speaker 1: but outside of that, you know, in the military, in

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Speaker 1: the sports arena as well, you know, being being class

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Speaker 1: as an athlete in the in the special Forces. You know,

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Speaker 1: just it does level you up. And I think you

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Speaker 1: just have that bit bit more of an understanding to

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Speaker 1: not answer back to not you know, take it for

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Speaker 3: Just isn't it like, yeah, absolutely, obviously that's a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you did it to the exchange, didn't you, Because

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Speaker 2: in your former former life in the military, there's there's

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Speaker 2: there's no question to ask is it going back exactly?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know about it. But Brownie, you mentioned in

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Speaker 1: that moment when you picked up that premiership, you know,

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Speaker 1: that premiership trophy for the first time at such a

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Speaker 1: young age. Before I get onto that, just it's probably

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Speaker 1: a personal question and I think a lot of ossies

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Speaker 1: you saw the AFL, you know, and I'm talking hitting it.

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing it when I was a youngster. Hair

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Speaker 1: being pulled, shirts being ripped, forearms you know going in.

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Speaker 1: Has it changed dramatically, And I'm talking about the physical

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Speaker 1: islence of the sport, you know, from when you when

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Speaker 1: you saw it growing up as a kid to when

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Speaker 1: you actually played it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely well growing up in the country. I was fifteen

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Speaker 2: when I started playing senior football against the man and

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Speaker 2: I still remember this day against team called camping out

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Speaker 2: and they're full of dairy farmers and now scary so

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Speaker 2: to a fifteen year old, I'll ship.

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Speaker 1: Myself and four size of your Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I thought they're just going to hate me here.

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Speaker 2: And there was three or four blues that day and

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Speaker 2: I remember thinking, geez, you know, I've got to not

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Speaker 2: be stupid about it, but I've got to stand up

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Speaker 2: come after me. So, yeah, no doubts it's changed. At

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Speaker 2: the AFL level. The game is as hard as it's

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Speaker 2: ever been because they're professional athletes. You know, they're stronger,

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Speaker 2: they're quicker, all those sorts of things. But so the

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Speaker 2: contacts always going to be heavy, those incidental contacts, that's

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Speaker 2: part of the game, and they've been able to clean

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Speaker 2: the game up there from I suppose the dangerous tackle situation.

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Speaker 2: The bumps used to be really heavily celebrating now now

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Speaker 2: they've been taken away. So I guess, like in World Sport,

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Speaker 2: a specially context board and there's such a concern about concussion,

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Speaker 2: it's on the front pages everywhere now and people's long

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Speaker 2: term health that leagues are having to adjust these historical rules,

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Speaker 2: aren't they that was seen as the fabric of the game.

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Speaker 3: They're having to change these rules.

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Speaker 2: Which is they've had a bit of blowback for, but

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Speaker 2: ultimately it's to protect the players from themselves. And the

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Speaker 2: concussion rules are a lots more stringent than they were.

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Speaker 2: I remember two thousand and three Grand Finally, where I

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Speaker 2: was knocked out at the first bounce. I didn't miss

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Speaker 2: a minute of the game, and you know, the doctor

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Speaker 2: shadowed me for about fifteen minutes out on the ground,

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Speaker 2: and I played every minute of the game. We had

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Speaker 2: a great win, but I can't remember how a lot

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Speaker 2: of the first half. So imagine if that happened now,

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Speaker 2: the doctor would be deregistered for life. You'll never be

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Speaker 2: able to practice again. But that's the thing you did,

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Speaker 2: and that's what we went out and did it, and

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Speaker 2: we wore it as a badge of honor because your

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Speaker 2: teammates did it, your captains did it, your leaders did it,

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Speaker 2: and you just want to follow in their footsteps. But

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Speaker 2: now we are in a safer time. But in terms

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Speaker 2: of the contact and the speed of the game, it's

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Speaker 2: as fast and as brutal as it's ever been as

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Speaker 2: far as I go, And we don't want those keen

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Speaker 2: hits and dirty pies behind the scenes still we So

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Speaker 2: I think the game's in pretty good health from a

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Speaker 2: physicality point of view.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it forces you to focus on the game,

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Speaker 1: because I suppose back in the day, and you know

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Speaker 1: we've all been there, you're focused on the game, but

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Speaker 1: you're focused on the player as well. Take this guy out,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you're not focused on But when you

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and they have to be an all round.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, take me back to that moment. You know you've

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Speaker 1: Olympic water polo player Ellie Armitt put in the hard

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Speaker 5: You're the one stopping you here from being this athlete

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Speaker 5: just was, yeah, a conversation and a huge wake up

439
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 5: call that I had become too comfortable.

440
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 4: I was just going and going in the motions.

441
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 6: Complacent.

442
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was complacent. I was just turning up. I

443
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 5: wasn't training, you know, maybe to my full potential. And

444
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 5: this was a huge wake up call. And you know,

445
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 5: there was moments where I was like, well, you know,

446
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 5: I tried to see how this will be it I'm out,

447
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 5: And then there were other moments where I was like no,

448
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 5: I'm so close, and I'm going to prove to her

449
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 5: that this I'm not complacent, like I'm doing everything. And

450
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 5: so that was another moment where I got all the

451
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 5: kind of assistant and support stuff that I could in.

452
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 4: A room and I was like, how am I getting

453
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 4: to parents? How are we getting there?

454
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 5: Let's go, let's organize, because again I wasn't in the

455
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 5: the traveling squad, so I had to stay home in trains,

456
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 5: which I mean I had to stay home and work.

457
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 5: So again I'm working full time when I didn't plan

458
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 5: to be, and and.

459
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 4: Things like that.

460
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, it was getting the final I think was

461
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 5: even more emotional than the first one because I was

462
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,479
Speaker 5: just I purposely was by myself in my apartment, just

463
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 5: just sitting in the fields for a long time.

464
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

465
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: Wow. And this is where the head game comes in

466
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: because you know you've been dropped and you go one

467
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: or two ways, but you either have that sort of

468
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: fuck you attitude where you go, well, listen, I've done

469
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: everything I can for you lot, or you go, actually,

470
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: you know the reason why this happened. You know, Am

471
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: I being complacent? Am I getting a bit too big

472
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: for my boots? Am I getting over confident, and you know,

473
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: do I think that the team can't function without me?

474
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: And then that reality check comes in and you know, luckily,

475
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: and you know, knowing your your potential and your capabilities,

476
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: you went down the road of right, listen, let's get

477
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: back in that team. And that takes a certain mindset

478
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: to do that. And so you were just full seam ahead,

479
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: wanting to prove to yourself, wanting to prove to the

480
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: coaches that you've got what it takes. When did you

481
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: get when did you get invited back in? How did

482
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: you feel?

483
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we just got a message kind of saying,

484
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 5: you know, this is a schedule that we're going to.

485
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 4: I think we're just doing the blocks in Canberra again.

486
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 5: So we did like months since in Canberra doing training

487
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 5: at the AS. But yeah, so when I got back

488
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: into that, I was really nervous.

489
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: I was scared.

490
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, I have to prove myself every

491
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 5: minute of every day.

492
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 4: Here.

493
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 5: There's no sleeping at all, like not physically sleeping.

494
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: Of course I slept back, yeah, I know, yeah, there's

495
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: no sleeping exactly.

496
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, so I was just kind of nervous, and

497
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 5: I just channeled that nervous energy into doing the best

498
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 5: I could every day and trying to prove that I

499
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 5: was everything that she was saying that I wasn't, and

500
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 5: you know, fizz being physically fit and being a team player,

501
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 5: being mentally fit and things like that. So yeah, I

502
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 5: just kind of threw myself into it.

503
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Speaker 3: Wow.

504
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: And then Paris. What differed from landing in Tokyo to

505
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: landing in Paris, obviously apart from all of the pandemic

506
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: sort of lockdown stuff, but what differed in pressure in

507
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, you were you were expected to perform a

508
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: lot better than you did in Tokyo, right.

509
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 5: Kind of the opposite. We did a lot of European

510
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 5: tours before, so we were in the end, I think

511
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 5: we're in Europe, including the three weeks at the Olympics,

512
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 5: maybe like seven weeks. So we did a lot of

513
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 5: prep beforehand, a lot of common trainings with other countries

514
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 5: and things like that. And the week before we went

515
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 5: into the village we were in the French Institute of

516
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 5: Sport with the French team playing them. But ranking wise,

517
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 5: we didn't rank very high. We maybe got a fourth

518
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 5: at the one of the World Champs, so maybe a

519
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 5: fifth or sixth and another one, So we were in

520
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 5: top six for sure, but there was we had to

521
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 5: keep reminding ourselves that. I think what kind of failed

522
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 5: us in the Tokyo cycle was that we thought we

523
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 5: were a gold medal chance without actually producing any gold

524
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 5: medal performances. Whereas this time we literally broke our whole

525
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 5: program down and we built it back up. So we

526
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 5: worked on it every single day, and I think psych

527
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 5: was a huge part of that. So landing in in

528
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 5: Paris or going into the Olympic village was so exciting

529
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 5: because we were just so excited to see what we

530
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 5: could do, because we had a few pre tournaments where

531
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 5: we were winning games that you know, theoretically we shouldn't

532
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 5: been winning or previously we wouldn't have won. But but yeah,

533
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 5: leading into into Paris, it was just kind of like, well,

534
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 5: weaken one on.

535
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: Us as well, So there's almost the pressure was off,

536
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: but it was on you know, you knew you could perform,

537
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: and I suppose when the pressures off as such, you know,

538
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: and the spotlight's not on you, you sort of have

539
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: you go in with a more relaxed attitude, don't you

540
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: in a more relaxed feel even though you know that

541
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: behind the scenes.

542
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 6: You know, there's expectations and there's pressures.

543
00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: You come out of the Powers Olympics with silver, did

544
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: you ever imagine that you could possibly win this?

545
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 5: To be honest, we had a really hard pool, and

546
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 5: so we were just literally taking a game by game.

547
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 5: And like I said, we hadn't really had that much

548
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 5: many performances where we were winning all the tournaments and

549
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 5: things like that, so we literally took a game by game,

550
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 5: and when we topped our pool was kind of a

551
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 5: minute that we were like, well, hang on a second,

552
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 5: Like anything can happen at the Olympics here, so you know,

553
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 5: why can't we win a gold medal? So you know,

554
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 5: from the kind of quarterfinals on weds when we were

555
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 5: in the metal stage, it was very much on our radar,

556
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 5: but we just had to keep to our processes and

557
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 5: keep to a game by game and just you know,

558
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 5: we could have got knocked out in the semi and

559
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 5: then knocked out in the bronxe, so it could go

560
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 5: one of, you know, three or four different ways. So yeah,

561
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 5: we literally just couldn't get ahead of ourselves. We just

562
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 5: had to take it game by game, and then once

563
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 5: we were in the gold medal match, It was just

564
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 5: kind of a pinch me moment, Like our programs a

565
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 5: whole year ago was in ruins and we're in a

566
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 5: review and we lost our coach and you know, there

567
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 5: was so much going on in the background to now

568
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 5: being in a gold medal in the big game, like

569
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 5: that's unheard of, and so we were just kind of like,

570
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 5: we are here, why don't we, you know, finish strong

571
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 5: and why not us? This team is this Spanish team, Yeah,

572
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 5: it's a it's a unit. It's a strong team that's

573
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 5: played together for so many years. But so with other

574
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 5: teams that we knocked off.

575
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's amazing.

576
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: And you and you unfortunately, you know, you don't come

577
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: out on top, but you come out on top with

578
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: a with a silver medal in the Olympics, which is

579
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: absolutely phenomenal. And you talk about a moment after receiving

580
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: your medal where you were you had a hug with

581
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: with with your family. Why was that so important and

582
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: what you know, what did it feel like?

583
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just incredible.

584
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 5: It's a weird thing losing a game but getting a

585
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 5: getting a silver medal because the bronze people and the

586
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 5: call room, I was so excited the gold medal team

587
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 5: so excited and you're just kind of like in this

588
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 5: weird middle feeling. But once it kind of like we

589
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 5: had our moment and we got the medals and we

590
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 5: were excited that we got a civil medal.

591
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

592
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 5: I found them in the crowd and just giving them

593
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 5: the hug. Like obviously, having four brothers, you don't show

594
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 5: a lot of emotion, and they'd never really hugged me

595
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 5: or you know, say nice things to me. So having

596
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 5: this like big hug and you know moment with my

597
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 5: brothers was just incredible, especially them and my parents. It's

598
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 5: as much their metal as it is mine, because they've

599
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 5: sacrificed just as much. And they were always on the

600
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 5: other end of the phone when I was you know,

601
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: sixteen thousand kilometers away crying and you know, going when

602
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 5: I was you know, in my depths of the pits

603
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 5: of hell.

604
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: So they have been on every part of the journey

605
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 4: with me.

606
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 5: So I'm really glad that I give them something tangible

607
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 5: and physical that they could touch and see that you know, this,

608
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: this wasn't wasted.

609
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: I can see you getting emotional right now talking about that.

610
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: I can only imagine what you were like when you

611
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: actually had that hug and it's such a powerful moment

612
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: and you mentioned you know, it's so so aware of

613
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: you to mention a sacrifice that you know other people

614
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: make to get to where you want to be and

615
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: where you where you you know you could deliver that

616
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: silver medal and it's given me goosebumps thinking about it.

617
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: But how important is it to not give up on yourself,

618
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: Ellie Massively.

619
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 5: It's It's something that I think everyone battles with every day.

620
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 5: Is just this imposter syndrome, especially as Australians where you know,

621
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 5: have this tall puppy syndrome and whatnot.

622
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: But it's something you have to work on all the time.

623
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 5: And I think along the way I lost it a

624
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 5: few times and I'm so grateful to the people who

625
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 5: pulled me back and.

626
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: Reminded me and gave me another chance.

627
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 5: You have to back yourself and you have to put

628
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 5: the effort in and put the work in. Things aren't

629
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 5: just going to come eas so I think your self

630
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 5: belief and self love is crucial.

631
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: It's huge.

632
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: Mark Quinterbottom is one of Australia's best known and loves

633
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: supercar drivers. Coming from humble beginnings, his passion for the

634
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: sport started at a young age. Mark overcame numerous hurdles

635
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: throughout his career to come away with a string of

636
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: titles and trophies to his name, including the prestigious BAF

637
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: First one thousand.

638
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 7: My life changed. I had a peewee fifty that I

639
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 7: won in a raffle at the local shopping center, and yeah,

640
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 7: two dollar ticket type scenario changed my life and careers.

641
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 7: So as soon as I got a piece of machinery.

642
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 7: It's very addictive, something about fuel and adrenaline going into

643
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 7: your blood and your veins. It's it made soccer seem

644
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 7: really boring. So that kickstarted the career and family involvement.

645
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 7: But it wasn't until we got that bike and that

646
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 7: that opportunity that I got to actually bear up.

647
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: So what happened there? Mark, you got? You got? You

648
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: won a bike at raffle?

649
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, so local shopping center was it was a two

650
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 7: dollar ticket, which I'm not going to show my age

651
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 7: too much, but back in nineteen eighty five or eighty six,

652
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 7: it's a lot of money, you know. But I walked

653
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 7: into the shopping center and there was this big display

654
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 7: of prizes and I can't remember what else there was,

655
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 7: but I remember the pee wee, and I annoyed mum

656
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 7: massively to make sure she bought a ticket, and she

657
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 7: played hardball, but after about twenty minutes of nagging and

658
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 7: being persistent, she brought me a ticket and yeah, from there,

659
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 7: actually we won the bike, which is one in a million,

660
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 7: you know. But I'm a big believer in fate and

661
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 7: it was my day in my time, and that got

662
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 7: me the opportunity to go to go racing. And that's

663
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 7: how it was, as simple as that two dollar ticket changed,

664
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 7: you know, my path and my career.

665
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: And when you say that you had an up and

666
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: you weren't, you know, you didn't have the funds or

667
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: your parents didn't have the because it's expensive to get

668
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: into racing, isn't it. It's expensive to get into any

669
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: form of racing, whether it's you know, motocross, whether it's karting.

670
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: You know, all leads on to funds, right, and if

671
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: you haven't got them, then you could be the most

672
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: talented or passionate sort of kid in the world wanting

673
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: to pursue that career. But if you if you lack

674
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: the funds, and it's not going to happen.

675
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, absolutely, And you know other sports there's talent

676
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 7: scouts and you know you can go through the junior

677
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 7: programs in the system, but in motorsport, when you go

678
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 7: through the junior programs, it still cost a lot of money.

679
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's very, very tough. You know, go karts

680
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 7: back then, we're five thousand dollars for an engine in

681
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 7: a go kart. Then you've got to buy tires and

682
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 7: run it and have family commitment and travel and all

683
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 7: the stuff that goes with it. So you know, with that,

684
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 7: we also had a fair bit going on at home.

685
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 7: Mum wasn't well as well, and you know she's she

686
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 7: had breast cancer when she was thirty eight. So she

687
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 7: was a very good mum. You know, she did whatever

688
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 7: she could for her kids to follow their dreams and

689
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 7: succeed and just live a good life. So throwing health,

690
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 7: money and kind of everything we had going on back then,

691
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 7: it was a dream, that's all my just what was

692
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 7: to me was a dream, and that ticket gave me

693
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 7: hope and a bit of reality, and from there we

694
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 7: turned that dream into something a bit more.

695
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: I can imagine. I know what it's like being a

696
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: youngster and not having much, but winning that bike. I

697
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: bet that was just the moment that you'll never ever forget.

698
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 7: In my mind, I knew I was getting it. It's funny.

699
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 7: It's a funny feeling because every time the phone rang

700
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 7: at home, I said to Mom, that's the motorbike. And

701
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 7: she ended up going she was a nice much because

702
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 7: you want to put me down and say, hey, I'm

703
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 7: going to let you down stuff You're not going to win.

704
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 7: You might win the meat the meat tray, not the

705
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 7: bike or whatever it was, you know, but every day

706
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 7: I go, that's my bike, mum. And that one day

707
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 7: that it did ring it it was the bike. But

708
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 7: when it come we had to go pick it up

709
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 7: put in the back of it. Were sound real bogan here,

710
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 7: but we had a station wagon and we threw it

711
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 7: in the back. And when I got home, you just

712
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 7: sit on it, start it, red it, turn it off,

713
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 7: sit on it, start it like it was. It's your

714
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 7: pride and joy. And when you don't have things given

715
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 7: to you, you appreciate those moments, you know, And like

716
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 7: you said, that was the pride and joy was what kickstarted,

717
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 7: you know, my twenty one year career of racing without

718
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 7: that ticket I was. I was done. So one of

719
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 7: the most treasured things I've ever had in my life,

720
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 7: for sure.

721
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: And so what did your childhood look like? You know,

722
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: navigating the sort of want and need and passion to race.

723
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: How hard was it to keep that momentum and that

724
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: passion alive with you know, what you were going through

725
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: at the time.

726
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 7: It was a tough time in our life, to be honest.

727
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 7: Mum was diagnosed with breast cancer back then, so around

728
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 7: the same time the motorbike comes, so we were looking

729
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 7: for we were looking for something positive in our life

730
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 7: because it was it was a tough time, you know.

731
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 7: We I'm four or five years old, and all these

732
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 7: check ups with mum, you know, wondering whether it's good

733
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 7: news or bad news. It's you know, that were the

734
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 7: toughest moments of my life. But then the outlet was

735
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 7: this motorbike that we could go and have fun on

736
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 7: and kind of putting the helmet on and rev and

737
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 7: the engine cleared any you know, bad stuff that was

738
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 7: going on. So not only did I love it, it

739
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 7: was my outlet for the trauma we're having at home,

740
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 7: you know, so you know, and that was Mum and

741
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 7: my family as well would come and watch and it

742
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 7: was kind of our outlet. So it meant more to

743
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 7: me than just a you know, just a bit of fun.

744
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 7: It was what do you call it, like a healing mechanism.

745
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 7: You know, it was tough times therapy. It was very

746
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 7: hard back then because you know, I'd go to every

747
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 7: one of mom's checkups because my sister was at school

748
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 7: and they were very close, but she was at school

749
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 7: like grade three or four, and my dad was very distant.

750
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 7: He wasn't a very loving, emotional top person. So you know,

751
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 7: all those checkups when I was five, I was getting

752
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 7: taken out of school to go with it. That was

753
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 7: just I was her a little bit of relief and support,

754
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 7: you know. So there the bike mean a lot more.

755
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 7: It was therapy and probably why I loved it too,

756
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 7: because it got attached. It was a good thing in

757
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 7: our life, not a bad thing for once.

758
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: It sounds like that you were sort of there for

759
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: each other, You complimented each other. You sound like you

760
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: very much bounced off each other as you was growing

761
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: up and finding your feet in the racing world because

762
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: it was something that you were just super passionate about.

763
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: There's nothing else that you wanted to do apart from race?

764
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: Was there apart well, apart from play soccer.

765
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 7: But yeah, well, you know, when you start racing and

766
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 7: you do it for fun, like I said, it had

767
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 7: had its really good moments, and then fun becomes competitive

768
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 7: and then you finish a good race and then then

769
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 7: you go onto the next one and you go a

770
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 7: little bit better. And I've always been very you know, competitive,

771
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 7: super competitive, and that probably stems from her as well,

772
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 7: because we used to play you know, you know, that

773
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 7: little card game, and it was probably we had blow

774
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 7: ups because it was the most competitive thing over nothing.

775
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 7: So probably started quite early about dealing with stress and

776
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 7: all that sort of side, and then dealing with competition.

777
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 7: So once you started getting better and traveling and getting

778
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 7: success and trophies and all that sort of side, it's

779
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 7: just that the passion and the drive just got hungry

780
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 7: and hungrier, and it always remained fun. But then there

781
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 7: was a purpose, you know, and you had to you

782
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 7: were going not just to compete, you were going to

783
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 7: try and win, and that was cool, like that was

784
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 7: a really cool part of your.

785
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: Child life.

786
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 7: And then then you don't think about the npit two,

787
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 7: which for me was supercars. But then you were trying

788
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 7: to path out the way. How do I get it?

789
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 7: Who do I have to speak to?

790
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 3: You know?

791
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 7: How do I raise the money to do this? How

792
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 7: can I you know, just send that pathway in? Your

793
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 7: team started coming a bit more reality, and you got

794
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 7: closer and closer, then further away and closer and further

795
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 7: like it just it's a journey. And to the day

796
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 7: I got, you know, retired, which was the end of

797
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 7: last year, I'm still hungry. I still love it. It's

798
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 7: a sport that just is my passion. And I think

799
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 7: you do a long you do it for a long

800
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 7: time because of how much you love it.

801
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: It's not a chore.

802
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 7: It's my passion in my life and has been from

803
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 7: day one.

804
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: And how hard was it to navigate growing up, you know,

805
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: knowing that nothing was put on a plate for you. You

806
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: had to go out and get everything, so it made

807
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: it that much harder. Where Ever, doubting moments growing up

808
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: that your your dream would just remain a dream and

809
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: never become a reality.

810
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 7: I hate the word no, So to be honest, when

811
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 7: doors closed, I get hungrier and I go I go

812
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 7: harder for about one that opens. So you know, there's

813
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 7: always everyone always talks about luck, you know, and for

814
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 7: me that pee wee fifty was luck. But then when

815
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 7: you have like you got to put in hard work

816
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 7: and you know, I think I've been had a lot

817
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 7: of resilience from a young age. So being from Western Sydney,

818
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 7: you do get told you're not going to get this,

819
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 7: You're not going to get that, you know, family without money.

820
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 7: So he's got to find another path, don't you like's

821
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 7: there's the pay option, and that wasn't an option for us,

822
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 7: so you just beg borrow, steal. I didn't steal, beg borrow,

823
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 7: not still, but you do whatever you can to get

824
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 7: in and that's when you do get there, you make

825
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 7: the most of it because you've had to work your

826
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 7: absolute backside off to make it happen, you know. So yeah,

827
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 7: doors always closed, but you always had to find that

828
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 7: sneaky one that was half a jar. And for me

829
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 7: to get into the supercars, there was a series in

830
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 7: go karting called the Ford Cart Stars that was Forge's

831
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 7: way of getting a scholarship program and to enter that

832
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 7: series was fifteen thousand dollars and I didn't have fifteen

833
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 7: thousand dollars. I was earning one hundred and fifty bucks

834
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 7: a week putting go cars together. So I went to

835
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 7: the bank and I got a loan for a Mitsubishi Lance,

836
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 7: at which I didn't want a Mitsubishi Lance. If I've

837
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 7: got the fifteen grand had debt and then went won

838
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 7: the championship, got the scholarship.

839
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: So wow, how old were you then?

840
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: Mark?

841
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 7: I was eighteen? Wow, eighteen years old? So but people

842
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 7: say you're lucky, you know, and that's I was always

843
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 7: happy to have a fifteen thousand dollars debt and work

844
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 7: out how to pay for it. Then then put my

845
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 7: feed up at twenty one and say I didn't have

846
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 7: a crack, you know. So there's always a way, there's

847
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 7: always a way in. You just got to find it

848
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 7: and take the risks that others won't. And you know,

849
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 7: that was my turning point into carding to road racing.

850
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk about bat first. How big is that event?

851
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: And you know, as a super supercar driver, it's well

852
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: for a lot of you, and it might correct me

853
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, But is that always in the back

854
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: of your head there is ever a moment you think

855
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: to yourself, what I'm going to get out there and

856
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: win it.

857
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 7: I think that every year, and then reality kicks reality

858
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 7: kicks in on that one. But you know, that's where

859
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 7: our s forward's great because you can be having a

860
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 7: really tough year, but then you go to bath Thurst

861
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 7: and if you have the right car and the right

862
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 7: engineer and it's your day, you can win the biggest

863
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 7: race of the year, even though you've had the worst

864
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 7: season of your life. But it's it's an unbelievable feeling

865
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 7: when you do win that race. It's an unbelievable feeling

866
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 7: because it's not over to the last lap. You know,

867
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 7: I've had moments. Two thousand and seven, I led that

868
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 7: race for it's one hundred and sixty one lapse, Well

869
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 7: we let it for one hundred and forty eight, dominated

870
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 7: all day, had a twenty five second lead, and then

871
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 7: with fourteen laps to go, safety car come out, which

872
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 7: was fine, still leading the race. Then the rain opened up,

873
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 7: Heaven's opened up, and us kid it off the chase,

874
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 7: leading the race with thirteen laps to go. So it's

875
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 7: a race that plays with your emotions badly. It's something

876
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 7: you love so much and every year you drive away

877
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 7: normally with a hard luck story. You can't wait twelve

878
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 7: months to drive back in there and tackle the beast again.

879
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 7: But it's such a cruel place, but that's why we

880
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 7: love it because it's challenging. People tune in on Sunday,

881
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 7: they get the beers out and load up and watch

882
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 7: Sunday Race, but it starts Monday. We do all our

883
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 7: corporate appearances, all our commercial appearances, a lot of media

884
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 7: building up to that event. Wednesday we do a track

885
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 7: walk where you physically walk the track. You're looking at

886
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 7: things like signs on the side of the track, break markers, bumps,

887
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 7: watch change curbs, whatever sort of taking it all in

888
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 7: and that builds the I don't know you adrenaline. So

889
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 7: Thursday we hit the track in the car. We do

890
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 7: three practice sessions. Friday we do practice sessions, then we qualify.

891
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 7: Then Saturday we do a top and shootout, which is

892
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 7: the lap of glory that you own the track to

893
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 7: yourself if you make the top ten. And then you

894
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 7: go to bed Saturday night and you're half spent from

895
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 7: the week that's been to then wake up at five

896
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 7: am Sunday morning to get yourself ready for battle. But

897
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 7: Sunday's payday, So you've got to control yourself for that

898
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 7: week to make sure you're not burnt out. You get

899
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 7: me excited, mate, getting ready for battle one like that,

900
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 7: because it is I've been there.

901
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: It's literally it's such a phenomenal race.

902
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's battle in the morning. You have this huddle.

903
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 7: It's the only track we do it. But it's everyone.

904
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 7: You can feel the what it means to everyone because

905
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 7: everyone's on edge there jutary, they're gonna that's taller a

906
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 7: lot more than they do. They're just nerve. You can

907
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 7: feel the nerves and what that race means. And there's

908
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 7: always this huddle at the start of the race that

909
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 7: our team's doing. They're right, right, Oh, this is a

910
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 7: game plan. We're doing this, We're doing that. It's very direct,

911
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 7: and it's it's the only place we do it, and

912
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 7: it's very I don't know, it's like it's like you're

913
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 7: getting ready for battle and we just have this huddle,

914
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 7: like rodo. This is our team, boys and girls, this

915
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 7: is us and we're better than everyone else. And arms

916
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 7: around each other and let's support each other and if

917
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 7: we do a good job, we can win this day.

918
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 7: And that's that's how the day starts, and then you

919
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 7: roll around to the grid and then Jimmy Barnes is

920
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 7: singing a national anthem or you're coming in with a

921
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 7: trophy and the fighter jets coming over and you know,

922
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 7: anthems sung and crowd standing, and then there's the silence

923
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 7: often you know a bit of silence and eerie silence feeling,

924
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 7: and then you start that engine and you know there's

925
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 7: eight hours of pain that's going to come ahead, and

926
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 7: it's it's an unbelievable feeling like ten physically. It's funny

927
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 7: if people say that's it, she must be physically spent,

928
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 7: but it's it's emotional and mental like Sunday night. The

929
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 7: headache you have is is painful, but the physical you

930
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 7: could turn up again and raise physically the next day.

931
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 7: But mentally that week and the emotion and at beat

932
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 7: who up Like That's where I think mentally you've got

933
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 7: to be very tough to win Bathurst, more so than physically.

934
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it take us back to twenty thirteen, then, mate,

935
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: come on, take us back to when you when you

936
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: lifted the Peterbrock Trophy.

937
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 7: It was the day you laugh, you know, but it

938
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 7: was it was a good week like, we had a

939
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 7: pretty strong week. I qualified second, car was fast. I

940
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 7: had Stephen Richards as my teammate, who was the same

941
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 7: teammate I let down in two thousand and seven. I

942
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 7: put my hand up that you know, he did everything

943
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 7: right to win that race and I was the one

944
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 7: that went off. So I felt, same team, same co driver,

945
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 7: This was our day. But you're not going to make

946
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 7: that same mistake twice. So we're in a good position.

947
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 7: We were trucking along pretty well all day. We're all

948
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 7: first or second, th in the mix all day, and

949
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 7: with sixty eight laps to go, sixty six laps to go,

950
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 7: whatever it was, we took the lead of the race

951
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 7: and rich O, who was my teammate, Steve Richards, brought

952
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 7: the car in and I had three cents to go

953
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 7: to the end, and it was a it was a

954
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 7: dog fight between us and Triple A Jamie Winkup, who

955
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 7: was the arch enemy. Really, to be honest, the team

956
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 7: and they were our they were our rivals, and they're

957
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 7: the enemy because they're just bloody good like that's why

958
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 7: we we wanted to beat them, but were covered by

959
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 7: a second and a half of the last sixty six

960
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 7: laps like it was just no mistakes. One mistake, we

961
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 7: were cooked. We were done. And in the revision mirror,

962
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 7: his car was there for sixty six laps and he'd

963
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 7: pit in the pits. We'd pit to follow, he'd pit,

964
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 7: we'd pit like it was just we'd just be replicating

965
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 7: each other and mirroring each other to make sure we've

966
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 7: maintained track positions. So pit crew had to do a

967
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 7: good stop. If we lost the second in the pits,

968
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 7: we were done. If you overshot pit entry, we were done.

969
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 7: If you you just everything meant had to be perfect,

970
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 7: because if we weren't perfection, we were going to get

971
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 7: done that day. And again comes down to the last lap.

972
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 7: All that stuff happens where we've done well, we're still

973
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 7: leading the race, and the last lap is right on

974
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 7: the bumper. And I had a plan that if I

975
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 7: went on the inside, I could run hi wide at two.

976
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 7: It's off camber, lap one sixty one, lots of marbles.

977
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 7: That was the plan. So he took it. He took

978
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 7: the bait, which was which was really cool, but he

979
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 7: almost made the move stick, which I was thinking of

980
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 7: getting the decision at that moment, but thankfully went wide,

981
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 7: hit the off camber, got on the marbles and went

982
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 7: wide and from there we had five to ten car

983
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 7: length lead and soaked it all up, like went across

984
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 7: the mountain no threat, looking at all the blue flags waving,

985
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 7: looking at the red holding flags, loading their trailers, going home.

986
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 7: It was a very very cool moment to just feel

987
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 7: the I know, the energy. You can't hear them, but

988
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 7: you can. You can feel it, and that in lap.

989
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 7: Just it's a moment I'll never forget. It's just even

990
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 7: the radio comes with the team, you know, you could

991
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 7: hear it in their voice. They were crackly like grown

992
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 7: men who they're just like they don't cuddle, they're not

993
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 7: they're not affectionate, they're not like they were just these

994
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 7: these tough racing crying when you're coming in. Like just

995
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 7: the emotion and the sound of their voice and what

996
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 7: it meant. It's a moment I'll never forget, just that

997
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 7: feeling of the team and the I don't know, just

998
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 7: completing something that had been taken away from you before

999
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 7: and doing it with the people that I felt like

1000
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 7: I'd let down in O seven and just fighting for it.

1001
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 7: We weren't handed it. We had to fight and that

1002
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 7: made it even more special. And then drawing into pit

1003
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 7: lane and just people running in and my wife and

1004
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 7: my two little boys and just you know, everyone around

1005
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 7: you just crying, emotional hugging and cheering and jumping, and

1006
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 7: it's it's it's while we do it, you know, like

1007
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 7: it's your race and results are call, but they mean

1008
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 7: so much more when you're sharing with people. And that's

1009
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 7: a true moment of that. And thirty thousand Forward fans

1010
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 7: running in and cheering and channing, and like I said,

1011
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 7: the Holden fans driving out. I can see these commodores

1012
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 7: driving out. It was like just the moment I'll never forget.

1013
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 7: And feeling achievement and doing it first time for the team,

1014
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 7: first time for me, and redemption. It was a big moment.

1015
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: If you want to listen to any of these interviews

1016
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: in full, I'll put the links in the show notes.

1017
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm at Middleton. Catch you in the next episode.