WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 17 February

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Burray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Happy Monday, Welcome to the biggest no sooks, no

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<v Speaker 2>lefty that I can possibly share.

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<v Speaker 1>With you this Monday night.

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<v Speaker 2>We had an awful lot to get to, including, of

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<v Speaker 2>course no sooks, no lefties, James Morrow today Buddy and.

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Matt Kennevan both joining us in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hope of the side you said the Price will

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<v Speaker 2>join us as well, just in a Nampa gymp for Price.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, proper names.

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<v Speaker 1>Here and how good was the greatest of all time?

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<v Speaker 1>Getting around at.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dayton of five hundred is a motorsport fan who's

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<v Speaker 2>very excited for the supercars going around in Sydney this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>This thrilled my little bogan heart.

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<v Speaker 3>See, we've had great recent on the track where we've

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<v Speaker 3>got the President landed right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been here four times before as a civilian, and

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm in a different capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>We love NASCAR, and we love the people of NASCAR.

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<v Speaker 2>We love our country and it's truly an honor to

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<v Speaker 2>be with all of you at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Great American Race. Gentlemen, start your engines. This is truly

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<v Speaker 1>an historic first, A sitting a United States President pacing

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<v Speaker 1>the field for the Creative American Race. Oh how good?

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<v Speaker 1>How good?

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<v Speaker 2>Matchin now by trying to do that at See one

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<v Speaker 2>at Bathurst, wouldn't even have the balls to show up

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<v Speaker 2>to the race, Peter it Dutton did last year, Remember

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<v Speaker 2>that motorsport fans. But first day one of a two

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<v Speaker 2>day meeting of the Reserve Bank has been taking place.

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<v Speaker 2>We know what the outcome is probably going to be,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least what the media is expecting.

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<v Speaker 4>Markets are all but certain that the Reserve Bank will

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<v Speaker 4>cut the official interest rate tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 5>Mortgage holders across Sydney could be less than twenty four

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<v Speaker 5>hours away from their first interest rate relief in four years.

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<v Speaker 2>But on this show I say the same thing over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again, which is I'm not going to fall

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<v Speaker 2>for the hype. A lot of people think this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the beginning of the reset for the

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<v Speaker 2>Abeneze government.

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<v Speaker 1>But they thought that about two little too late tax cuts.

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<v Speaker 2>They thought that, of course about the voice interesting poll

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<v Speaker 2>in a slew of.

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<v Speaker 1>Them that are around at the moment. You know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>try to show the data.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the bricks. The opinion is the mortar in

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<v Speaker 2>the wall that we build each and every night. Right track,

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<v Speaker 2>wrong track. Fifty five percent of people say country is

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<v Speaker 2>headed in the wrong direction. Just twenty seven believe that

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<v Speaker 2>it's in the right direction. Break that down by age

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven to twenty eight, fifty two to twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty seven to twenty seven, and sixty three to twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>All age groups believe that we are headed in the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong direction. Majorities from thirty five up until the oldest

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<v Speaker 2>person that will be voting later this year, twenty five percent,

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<v Speaker 2>a quarter, a quarter of labor voters think that their

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<v Speaker 2>country is headed in the wrong direction. Seventy three percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people planning to vote against the government directly, fifty

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<v Speaker 2>three percent of Greens because they presume it's not headed

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<v Speaker 2>in too much of a left direction. But that other number,

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<v Speaker 2>everything from the real independence to the Teel independence to

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<v Speaker 2>one nation and any and everything in between. Seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>percent of people think the joint is headed in the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong direction. So whatever happens tomorrow, that is not going

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<v Speaker 2>to change. Numbers that big, that deep, are fundamental, They

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<v Speaker 2>are baked in. There may be some very slight movement

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<v Speaker 2>between now and whenever the election will be called, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's going to be much moved between

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<v Speaker 2>now and when the election actually happens. And also it

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<v Speaker 2>is again worth pointing out that even if zero point

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<v Speaker 2>two five percent is what the Reserve Bank decided to

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<v Speaker 2>cut tomorrow, this is how much you can expect to

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<v Speaker 2>save off what you have been spending in extra loan

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<v Speaker 2>repayments since Albo became the Prime Minister in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety two dollars a month. That's it for people paying

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<v Speaker 2>off six hundred, one hundred and fifteen for seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty or one hundred fifty to two hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're between say one and one and a half

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars, Again, no one's going to be saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want the money. But no one is also

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<v Speaker 2>going to say that when that many people in that

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<v Speaker 2>many directions, including a quarter of labor people think we're

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<v Speaker 2>headed in the wrong direction, that anything magically is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be changing if by this time tomorrow night we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about interest rate cut.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, as a person trying to pay off a house,

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<v Speaker 2>I want interest rates cut, no question. As a person

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<v Speaker 2>who has shown you the data about the per capita

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<v Speaker 2>recession that we have been in for the best part

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<v Speaker 2>of two years. I want an interest rate cut. I

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<v Speaker 2>want them to halve interest rates. So I am not

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<v Speaker 2>cheering for anything but a reduction in interest rates. But when,

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<v Speaker 2>as I have relentlessly shown you, the total amount of

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<v Speaker 2>your repayments that have gone up since twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>and twelve of the thirteen interest rate rises under Albow,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. You can say Hallalujah ninety two dollars if

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<v Speaker 2>you've paid twenty two thousand and four hundred and ten

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<v Speaker 2>dollars extra each year on a six hundred thousand dollars loan,

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<v Speaker 2>are you really going to be singing hallelujah twenty nine

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<v Speaker 2>thousand on an eight hundred thousand dollar known thirty seven

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars on a one million dollar loan, or forty

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<v Speaker 2>four thousand, eight hundred forty five thousand dollars you have

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<v Speaker 2>had to find on top of what you're already paying.

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<v Speaker 2>That's each year, So you can double those numbers for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two plus twenty three and twenty four. It's extraordinary

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of money people have had to spend on

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<v Speaker 2>their mortgages. And also just to show that it is

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<v Speaker 2>not just me scribbling in crayon in my padded cell

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<v Speaker 2>between shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I'm sure lefties think I actually live.

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<v Speaker 2>There are plenty of other people who have this view,

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<v Speaker 2>who can see the reality that even if rates are cut,

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<v Speaker 2>there is not about to be a party in the

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<v Speaker 2>streets like it's the end of World War two. One

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<v Speaker 2>and a half million people in austral are sitting through

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<v Speaker 2>mortgage stress right now, and what is being described as

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<v Speaker 2>throwing a cup of water at a bushfire would be

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<v Speaker 2>the equivalent of what might happen tomorrow. A person who

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<v Speaker 2>is with a property tech service called be Right says

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<v Speaker 2>this is Aaron Scott. A rate cut might sound like

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<v Speaker 2>good news on the surface, but in reality it's unlikely

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<v Speaker 2>to make meaningful difference to many homeowners who are already

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<v Speaker 2>stretching their financial limits. A single rate cut is like

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<v Speaker 2>getting a four cent discount of two dollars of fuel.

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<v Speaker 2>It might make you feel good, but the saving is

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<v Speaker 2>gone by the time you lead the servo. Good point,

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<v Speaker 2>unless you've got half a dozen cuts that are lined up.

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<v Speaker 1>One drop in rates won't.

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<v Speaker 2>Move the needle for most household budgets, that's my point.

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<v Speaker 2>And if those household budgets are directly linked to people's

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<v Speaker 2>financial circumstances and thus what bleeds into our political beliefs

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<v Speaker 2>about whom we believe responsible. You can have the team

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<v Speaker 2>with one interest rate rise of the one with twelve

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<v Speaker 2>since they started going up in twenty and twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure where a huge bulk of people are,

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<v Speaker 2>and those people, of course are in the suburbs where

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<v Speaker 2>the bet is they may well vote Liberal for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, or if they vote something like one Nation,

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<v Speaker 2>they would definitely send their preferences back to the Libs

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't want a continuation of this government and

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<v Speaker 2>its pain. Remember the central promise of the alban Easy

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<v Speaker 2>opposition before government was to make the cost of living lower.

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<v Speaker 1>All of it has gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, some of it since it has gone up, has

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<v Speaker 2>come down a little bit, but all of it, all

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<v Speaker 2>of it is higher than when they made that promise.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you remember that. I hope your friends remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they don't see this program, share the video

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<v Speaker 2>when it's uploaded to sky on news dot com that

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<v Speaker 2>are you or up on our YouTube channel. It's small

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<v Speaker 2>business to lots of people who work in that particular facilities,

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<v Speaker 2>and we know that ninety seven percent of Australian businesses

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<v Speaker 2>are small businesses. Of those, about seventy percent are sole traders,

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<v Speaker 2>so the rest are people who maybe employ one, at

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<v Speaker 2>least one or maybe a couple of extra people. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>interesting article today in the nine websites where they are

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<v Speaker 2>saying that small business is in a recession. They are

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<v Speaker 2>going backwards as opposed to the public service which is thriving.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because it's your money that is paying for the

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<v Speaker 2>public service and the credit card that is just being

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<v Speaker 2>tap and god every five seconds by this government record levels.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we know what the Labor Party thinks of small

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<v Speaker 2>business because when the Liberal Party have put forward their

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<v Speaker 2>idea for the same tax rules to apply to small

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<v Speaker 2>business as big business when it comes to entertaining like

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<v Speaker 2>you being able to go to the pub and take

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<v Speaker 2>a potential client or maybe your biggest customer out for

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<v Speaker 2>a schnitzel. This is the way the Labor Party is

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<v Speaker 2>turning you, the small business owner into a caricature.

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<v Speaker 1>Long lunches paid for by the taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 6>For bosses are the lips for real?

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<v Speaker 5>What's next?

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<v Speaker 7>Couldn't you feed up at your desk at work smoking

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<v Speaker 7>a cigar?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they think if you have a takeaway food business,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got a lawn mowing run, if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>person who runs a hairdressers, that's what they think of you.

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<v Speaker 2>They think you're a boss sitting around waiting to smoke

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<v Speaker 2>a cigar. I'm stand up for the cigar smokers of Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>but you get my point. Remember, even in the Parliament,

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<v Speaker 2>a person who's earning more than four hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>who gets to go to sport for free because she's

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<v Speaker 2>the Sports Minister as well as the age ke Minister

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<v Speaker 2>making you pay more for services in your retirement. She

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<v Speaker 2>thinks that small business.

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<v Speaker 1>Has got so much extra cash lying around that you

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<v Speaker 1>could go to the superbar.

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<v Speaker 8>According to the coalitions publicly defined parameters of their own policy,

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<v Speaker 8>business could spand up to twenty thousand dollars of Elizabeth's

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<v Speaker 8>own taxpayer funds to attend something like, for example, the

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<v Speaker 8>Super Bowl, to lather themselves in buffalo wings and babyback ribs.

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<v Speaker 8>Nodding along to Kendrick Lamar.

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<v Speaker 2>That's their vision of small business. If you work for one,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how little they care. If you run one, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they really think of you. You are surplus to requirements.

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<v Speaker 2>You see the modern left beliefs that you should be

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<v Speaker 2>dependent on the government through welfare, or you should be

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<v Speaker 2>dependent on the government by working for them, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you are a private business, your biggest customer should be

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<v Speaker 2>the government. Therefore, don't upset the upper cart. Keep voting labor,

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<v Speaker 2>Keep voting labor. The disastrous results of that are how

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria exists right now and why the Labor government lost

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<v Speaker 2>so badly in Queensland after they had been in charge

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<v Speaker 2>for the best part of thirty years in a row. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the ABS put out some stats that show the number

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<v Speaker 2>of people who are employed in private business in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>The bottom one is the one that I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to pay attention to, where the total number of people

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<v Speaker 2>working for a small business on top of the boss.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see where it was and it's basically the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing has changed. In fact, the total number of people

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<v Speaker 2>has gone backwards. In September of twenty twenty two, nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty thousand people worked as well as the

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<v Speaker 2>owner in a small business. In December of last year

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<v Speaker 2>it is nine hundred and twenty one thousand, so over

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<v Speaker 2>the entirety of their time in government post COVID, No

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<v Speaker 2>COVID blame. The total number of people working for a

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<v Speaker 2>small business has gone backwards, Yet they are arrogant enough

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<v Speaker 2>to run around and pretend that it's about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>smoking cigars with the monocle and the top hat, or

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to blow cash going to the Super Bowl. Meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>public servants, they have added well and truly where small

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<v Speaker 2>business has not. So small business has gone down by

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<v Speaker 2>the best part of nine thousand employees. The total number

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<v Speaker 2>of extra people working for the federal government thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people. A football stadium of people working for the government,

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<v Speaker 2>while small business has nine thousand fewer people working for

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<v Speaker 2>it now than when this mob took office. Pay attention.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what they truly think about Australians who want

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<v Speaker 2>to be in charge of their own future, not reliant

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<v Speaker 2>and dependent on the government via welfare, via working for

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<v Speaker 2>them or them as your biggest customer. Now, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to drill down even further into the discussion at the

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<v Speaker 2>moment around polls that are absolutely showing that Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 2>has its nose in front right now going into an election.

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<v Speaker 2>Petty Dutton is confident that he will win the election.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no doubt in my mind that we can win

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<v Speaker 4>the election. I have been in marginal campaign for the

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<v Speaker 4>last quarter of a century. Not only do I think

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<v Speaker 4>we can win up it, more importantly, I think we

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<v Speaker 4>can serve the country well.

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<v Speaker 2>And every day there is a pole that points us

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<v Speaker 2>in that direction. Every day the bookies remain and I

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<v Speaker 2>check every day because of the changes. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>on the telly, they believe there will be a change

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<v Speaker 2>of government. I hope there is a change in government.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am offering the asorisk here because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to anyone waking up like labor people felt in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen, because I think there are some similar dynamics

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<v Speaker 2>which are at play. But even more, polling is getting

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<v Speaker 2>better for the opposition and worse for the government now

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<v Speaker 2>as we know, the polling that was around yesterday showed

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<v Speaker 2>that seventy three seats was the way that the Opposition

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<v Speaker 2>was starting to head towards, meaning they only need three

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<v Speaker 2>to get to a majority. They would be pretty easily

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<v Speaker 2>able to find. When you think about people like Rebecca Sharky,

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<v Speaker 2>when you think about people like Bob Katter, both of

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<v Speaker 2>whom have said who have has the most number of

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<v Speaker 2>seats they would get on board, and allegedly a Languis

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<v Speaker 2>spender is suggesting that she is willing to work with them.

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<v Speaker 2>She's one of the only Teals willing to do so. Now, also,

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<v Speaker 2>what brews to that point is not just what Newspop

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<v Speaker 2>popped up today again showing fifty one to forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>in favor of the coalition, but a majority of Australians

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<v Speaker 2>believeing it's time to give someone else a go after

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<v Speaker 2>three terrible years of this terrible government. Thirty four percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people, which is basically the Labor Party primary vote,

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<v Speaker 2>believe this government deserves a second term. Fifty three percent

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<v Speaker 2>believe it doesn't. Now when that fifty three, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about anyone from a real independent voter to a Teal

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<v Speaker 2>voter to agree to One Nation, libertarian and all in between. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 2>once you start to slicingize this by states, fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people in New South Wales say it's time for

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<v Speaker 2>a change, fifty four percent of people in Victoria and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty eight percent of people in Queensend.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that great, great, great good, good good.

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<v Speaker 2>Now of the seats that the Redbridge polling, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be twenty marginal seats that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have.

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<v Speaker 1>A look at every two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be as close to publicly available information

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<v Speaker 2>as the tracking pole that both Labor and Liberal run

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<v Speaker 2>where they also monitor twenty seats and they basically get

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<v Speaker 2>a daily report. It's very expensive to do so, so

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<v Speaker 2>for us to get basically the same information every two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks before the election, and then, as Coss Samaras told

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<v Speaker 2>us on our last night, every week during the election,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason they say that seventy three seats becomes the

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<v Speaker 2>option is because many existing Labor seats would go to

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<v Speaker 2>the coalition.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the seats that they.

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<v Speaker 2>Are suggesting is going to change in Victoria, New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 2>Western Australia and Tasmania. They also believe that there will

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<v Speaker 2>be some changes in again plenty more there in New

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<v Speaker 2>South Wales. The rich pickings basically been New South Wales

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<v Speaker 2>as the top seed where fifty percent of people say

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for somebody else to have a guard and

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<v Speaker 2>the others coming from Victoria, which is fifty four percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying it's time for change.

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<v Speaker 2>But for that to actually take place, there's a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of campaign tactics that I want to talk about here

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<v Speaker 2>because there is one thing that absolutely overlaps with those

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<v Speaker 2>seats that the pollsters are telling us are the most

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<v Speaker 2>likely bricks in the red wall to fall, and what

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<v Speaker 2>their view was of the referendum back in twenty twenty three. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>remember the public polling when Albou was running around the

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<v Speaker 2>country in the s T shirt, was that the Labor

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<v Speaker 2>Party was still well and truly out in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the opposition. They then spent a year and four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty million dollars on a referendum and they have

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<v Speaker 2>never recovered from it since. So the seats set to change, Aston, Gilmore, Bullwinkle, Benelong, Lions, Tangy, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what do they all have in common? They all voted

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<v Speaker 2>no Aston at fifty seven percent, Gilmore at sixty one

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<v Speaker 2>percent and Cured at sixty percent, Lions in Tasmania at

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven percent, plus a whole collection of others. As

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<v Speaker 2>you can see, the lowest number there is what the

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<v Speaker 2>mid fifties. The highest number there is A's seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 2>So seats like Hunter and Patterson, which I openly speculated

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<v Speaker 2>last night on the air, was really at the tipito

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<v Speaker 2>end of the expectations part of the Liberal Party thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>he is that if seventy percent of people thought the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister had the wrong idea when it came to

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<v Speaker 2>the referendum, that he had the wrong priorities because cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living was the cost of living fire was raging

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<v Speaker 2>at that point in time. That being reminded of the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime minister's priority when you were suffering the beginnings of

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<v Speaker 2>what became three terrible years financially could be something that

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<v Speaker 2>will move the needle. But for that to happen, will

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<v Speaker 2>Liberal Party operatives have the courage to use the image

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<v Speaker 2>of the Prime minige to wearing the shirt advocating the

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<v Speaker 2>position that all of those seats strongly voted against. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know whoever's doing the social media, particularly for Michaulia Cash,

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<v Speaker 2>they have worked this out and virtually every time they

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<v Speaker 2>mention him, they mentioned him with that T shirt In so,

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<v Speaker 2>will the Liberal Party make.

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<v Speaker 1>The yes T shirt?

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<v Speaker 2>What I don't hold a hose was for the Labor

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<v Speaker 2>Party in Scott Morrison. If so, that is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit of the secret sauce here of

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<v Speaker 2>something that Australians spent a year learning about the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister being in the wrong spot when they demanded that

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<v Speaker 2>he would be where they wanted instead. Remember in that

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<v Speaker 2>year when he spent four hundred and fifty million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and he was advocating.

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<v Speaker 1>What the majority of the country did not want.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when they took fifteen hundred dollars off ten million taxpayers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one thing for me to make the statement here

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<v Speaker 2>as an observer, but of course I'm not a participant.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see how those messages start coming through. Let's see

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<v Speaker 2>how the social media war plays between now and when

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<v Speaker 2>the election starts. Because right now the Libs they are

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat near the target, but they are not over the

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<v Speaker 2>top of it. If they believe that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>direct correlation between places that voted no and places that

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<v Speaker 2>will vote Liberal at this election, are they tying the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister to the position all of those places around

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<v Speaker 2>Australia didn't just vote no, but voted hell no. Two

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<v Speaker 2>interesting news around the Teals today their big financial group

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<v Speaker 2>that backs them Climate two hundred. Now they will not

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<v Speaker 2>have their wings clipped at all at this election. You

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<v Speaker 2>should know that all of the supposed funding changes that

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<v Speaker 2>are going to make their way. They do not apply

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<v Speaker 2>at this election. They will apply the next election. Why

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<v Speaker 2>because the government wants as many Teals in the Parliament

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<v Speaker 2>as possible so that they can harness them to form

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<v Speaker 2>minority government. But fascinating thing I wanted to mention here

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<v Speaker 2>they have said that they are going to start going

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<v Speaker 2>after Labour candidates. Now they basically had a one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent run against Libs, they're still running the extreme majority

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<v Speaker 2>against the lib thirty five seats that they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have candidates in with money, including the seat of Gilmour,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most marginal in the country. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the one on the south coast of New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the one that has beautiful Bateman's Bay right

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<v Speaker 2>in the heart of it. And we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in Bateman's Bay on Sunday for our town. But

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<v Speaker 2>we're also going to be in Bateman's Bay this time

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<v Speaker 2>next week for the first of our pub tests, the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity for local candidates to join us to answer the

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<v Speaker 2>questions of the first one hundred people to respond. One

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<v Speaker 2>of the independent candidates who says she is not a

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<v Speaker 2>Teal will be receiving money. According to The Guardian Today

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<v Speaker 2>and the claims of Climate two hundred that they will

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<v Speaker 2>at least try to send money to her campaign. She

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<v Speaker 2>will be there to answer questions on Monday night, as

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<v Speaker 2>will the Liberal Party's candidate who ran it the last

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<v Speaker 2>election and hopes to get a different result of this election.

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<v Speaker 1>The former Transport Ministry so well was Andrew Constance.

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<v Speaker 2>We have asked the Labor Party currently No, we've asked

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens currently know we will keep an empty seat

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<v Speaker 2>for them. But if you are anywhere near the seat

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<v Speaker 2>of Gilmour and you have a vote, do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a question for the two people who are challenging for

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<v Speaker 2>the seat, join us this time next week. Send me

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<v Speaker 2>an email to say you want to turn up at

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<v Speaker 2>pubtest at skynews dot com dot A. You also tell

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<v Speaker 2>me the question that you would like to ask both

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberal and the Independent pubtest at skynews dot com

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<v Speaker 2>dot AU. I want to fill the room, but I

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<v Speaker 2>also want to fill the room with people who want

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<v Speaker 2>to ask questions. Okay, because it's not about me and

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<v Speaker 2>ow pitch to all of the candidates. Is it is

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<v Speaker 2>about the first one hundred people to get in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one hundred people to get in the room Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we know if the thing's being stacked when you know

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<v Speaker 2>twenty people at once ask because that's obviously someone from

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<v Speaker 2>the different candidate groups. I want one hundred people who

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<v Speaker 2>live on the South Coast who've got a question for

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<v Speaker 2>the local Independent or the local Liberal about not just

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<v Speaker 2>their area but the country in general, including which way

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<v Speaker 2>they would vote should there be.

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<v Speaker 1>A hung parliament. It is pubtest, it's goynews dot com

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<v Speaker 1>dot au.

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<v Speaker 2>Now with the Australia. Remember there was quite the outrage,

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<v Speaker 2>quite the outrage when Peter Dutton in the budgeting reply

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<v Speaker 2>speech last year dropped perhaps his most popular policy won

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<v Speaker 2>agreed by about seventy five percent of people in marginal seats.

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<v Speaker 4>We will implement a two year ban on foreign investors

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<v Speaker 4>and temporary residents purchasing existing homes in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>And you remember Labor hated the idea.

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<v Speaker 9>It'll cost the economy billions of dollars. But even the

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<v Speaker 9>kinds of estimates that you will see are conservative because

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<v Speaker 9>it's not possible to fully capture the damage that Peter

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<v Speaker 9>Dutton would do to the skills base of this country.

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<v Speaker 2>Meantime, remember Lefty Laura Tingle, she was out there the

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<v Speaker 2>Writers Festival circuit, pretending that Peter Dutton's evil uga booger

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<v Speaker 2>policies was going to result in people going after people

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<v Speaker 2>who look different.

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<v Speaker 6>I had flash of people turning out to try to

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<v Speaker 6>read a property or in an auction and they look

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<v Speaker 6>a bit different. What do you defined different as basically

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<v Speaker 6>has given them.

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<v Speaker 10>Licensed to the abused.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, guess what the Labor Party is now going to

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<v Speaker 2>introduce exactly the same policy, Not exactly exactly because they're

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<v Speaker 2>still going to let foreign buyers buy things off the plan.

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<v Speaker 2>But they too, via the Housing Minister, Clueless Clare O'Neil,

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<v Speaker 2>are now matching the policy of which they said would

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<v Speaker 2>ruin the budget when it was Peter Dutton's idea last year.

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<v Speaker 2>But they think you're stupid and you won't remember.

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<v Speaker 11>It's not a silver bullet to the housing crisis, because

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<v Speaker 11>there is no silver bullet. But I really firmly believe

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<v Speaker 11>that given the housing pressures that Australians are facing today,

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<v Speaker 11>we need to orient the entire efforts of the Australian

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<v Speaker 11>government around security of housing for Australians and wherever possible,

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<v Speaker 11>home ownership for a broader range of young Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the met to election labor desperately trying to say

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<v Speaker 2>we'll do it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That policy has had support seventy five percent of people.

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<v Speaker 1>In marginal electorates.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not believe that the Libs have talked about

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<v Speaker 2>that policy enough, so it may end up being a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little bit of a political wash. But watch this space.

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<v Speaker 1>There is plenty more to it.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of other things I want to mention before

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<v Speaker 2>we are done the seedning and get into Nosook's No

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<v Speaker 2>Lefties or wrap up might beit as soon as possible

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<v Speaker 2>so we can get to the debate and discussion at

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 2>a moment or two time. Excellent report on sixty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>last night in and around how the use of cab charges,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly with older or disabled people, is being ripped off

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<v Speaker 2>by people who are driving certain cabs. Go back and

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 2>try and find that story online, but it is pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>But put simply, what they were able to prove was

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<v Speaker 2>that the passenger may well be handed a receipt, but

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 2>the actual amount of money that gets charged back to

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the cab charge ends being hundreds of dollars for what

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<v Speaker 2>might be a thirty to fifty dollars fare. Now, I

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 2>do not understand in the world of technology that we

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<v Speaker 2>live in now that we still have this absurd situation

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 2>where you've got the meter, but the meter doesn't automatically

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 2>tell the FPOs machine what should be being charged. Instead,

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.479
<v Speaker 2>as you know anyone who's been in a cab, there's

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<v Speaker 2>this bit where they add extra numbers and the nighttime bit,

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.360
<v Speaker 2>and that we went over the tolls. So it might

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>be sorta close, but unless you're really paying attention, there's

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity here for some extra dollars to be added

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<v Speaker 2>or their scenarios where cab charges are being handed over,

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 2>a receipt is being produced, but the actual amount of

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 2>money being taken on the cab charge is hundreds and

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:47.879
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of dollars. This matters because many of the people

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<v Speaker 2>with those cab charges. It's part of the ndis we

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<v Speaker 2>should have a system that is exactly the same as

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<v Speaker 2>the one who's ever any driven or written in a

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 2>cab in a place like New York where the driver

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.479
<v Speaker 2>is not the one entering the detail. Well, you can

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<v Speaker 2>see it ticking over in the meter, the meter immediately

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 2>to the little screen out the back, Tap and go,

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 2>tap and go, tap and go. Surely some system could

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 2>be presented there. Well done to that story out of

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the United States. Now rugby league is just but a

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 2>week and a bit away from its great start, this

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 2>show piece start.

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<v Speaker 1>Where they go to Las Vegas.

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 2>What a once in a lifetime opportunity to go to Vegas,

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 2>let alone to be a footy fan in Vegas. Well,

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Peter Velandi's the genius behind all of this. The man

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 2>who has made rugby league the strongest it has ever

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 2>ever been, was on American television today and he has

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 2>invited the President of the United States to do what

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 2>he did to the Super.

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Bowl, to do what he did at Daytona. Come and

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>watch rugby league in Vegas. Mister President.

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:53.679
<v Speaker 7>We want to introduce you to the toughest game on Earth,

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 7>rugby league in the world's sport and entertainment capital, Las Vegas.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 7>Our players don't wear pads or helmets. As you know,

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 7>mister President. The US has a trade surplus with Australia,

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 7>one of the rare countries you are tending, will balance

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 7>this out a bit. Hope to see you at Allegiance

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 7>Stadium in Las Vegas on Saturday, March one.

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Brilliant, brilliant American TV, American TV. The President is watching,

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 2>so fingers crossed, the Donald might be there turning up

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 2>at Allegiance Stadium. But what I can guarantee is that

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 2>we will be there to see it with our own eyes,

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 2>because Paul Murray Live is going to Vegas.

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I love driving in the States. I love hanging out

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in the sunshine.

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I love going from LA to drive through Palm Springs

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 2>to roll into Vegas where we will be at Allegiance

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Stadium for the game. We will be in Vegas a

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 2>few days before, so you will come with us on

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>the footy trip of a lifetime where maybe, just maybe

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 2>the Donald is going to watch the best game of

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 2>footy he's ever seen. Break Back with More, no Sooks,

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>no Lefties, Bateman's Bay, Gilmore Pub, Test, Vegas. How good

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>is being on Paul Murray Life? Hey, thanks for watching.

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 2>As you know, I like wearing the big silver rings

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 2>all the time.

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, a bit of rock and roll whatever. There

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 1>will always be that rebel inside me. Right. Well, there's

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>one ring that's probably just a little bit too big

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>for my finger.

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>It's it's on my left hand and it falls off

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>the hand every now and then, and I've had all

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 2>sorts of experiences trying to collect it, including last year

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Christmas time, around Christmas party season. I just threw, you know,

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>canna coke in a bin at a servo. It came off,

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and I had to take all of the contents of

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the bin of the service station and sift through it.

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's a disgusting task to find the ring.

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, just in case any of the cleaners are watching

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 2>here at Sky news Men's toilet, I think it's dropped

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>somewhere inside the paper towel bin, all right, So that's

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 2>where I'll be straight after the show.

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Anyone says a cleaner going near the toot stop stop stop, I'll.

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Pay the overtime. No such problems to James Morrow when

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>he either hosts this program as he did excellently last week,

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>or on the outside of his program because he chooses

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>to wear the.

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>One ring that matters. That's it.

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 12>And you know, I'll tell you what these rings falling off,

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 12>These are a symptom of what life is like under labor.

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 12>We just have rings flying off all over the place.

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 12>There are a metaphor for the profligacy of this government

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 12>which feds money like their rings flying off of your finger.

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Correct, Matt Canavan.

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>He's just only got the one ring that matters all

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 2>the rest of this show because he's not involved in.

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Altho first first wife, Paul third wedding ring.

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the other way around. O. When when was the

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>first time yellow?

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 3>He once lost the touch twenty one? We're trying to

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 3>find it for about four hours.

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>That's terrible. I remember I lost a ring.

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I lost another ring which I was given by my

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>beautiful now wife back when we were in high schoo

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.479
<v Speaker 2>high school swear, and I lost that on the back

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>of a jet ski on the Gold Coast.

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>That wasn't a great conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, you're not going to find that?

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>No, all right. So you're at ARC.

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>You're there as part of the Conservative conference that's happening

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>in London. I love this thing because it is big brains,

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 2>big thinkers. Peter Credline of course, is hosting all week

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 2>from there. What's your contribution going to be apart from

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 2>meeting some incredible people, Matt, Yeah.

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Look, I'm speaking on a panel on energy tomorrow. That's

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 3>obviously a big passion of mine. But look, the main

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 3>thing I'm here for is to regain our confidence this

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 3>is the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship ARC conference, but I

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 3>suppose you could call the Association for Regaining Confidence. That's

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 3>what it's about. It's about making sure that we don't

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 3>have to apologize. I shouldn't apologize for our heritage, our

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 3>history and what it has delivered to the world. We

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be scared of people speaking their minds in free countries,

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 3>which many governments seem to be. Now, we shouldn't resile

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:57.959
<v Speaker 3>from the fact that we can respect how people want

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 3>to live their lives, but still promote the fact that

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 3>having a biological mother and father raise a child is

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 3>the best known way to bring people into the world.

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 3>And of course we need to defend our own countries

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 3>from those that want to do us harm. That needs

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 3>to me developing our own country, developing our energy resources.

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 3>That I'm very passionate about keeping ourselves strong, because there

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 3>is something worth defending in our country in Australia and

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 3>a lot of other like minded countries that we're friends

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 3>with around the democratic world.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I'm pleased to say a lot of these

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>panels they are going to be up online.

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>They're certainly going to be covet at sky News Dot

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>com that are you.

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>And again Peter's over there because she's got plenty to

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>say and to add to the movement. You'll see that

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>at six o'clock each and every night here on Sky News. James,

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I love that clear. I mean, you know, the left's

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 2>got every conference in the world, from Davos all the

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 2>way through to know Greta Thumburg's Sharehouse.

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Good to see this for conservatives, well, you know it is.

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 12>I went to the conference in Sydney last year. I

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 12>was going to go to this, but I was traveling

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 12>so much last year It's kind of felt like I

0:31:58.040 --> 0:31:59.239
<v Speaker 12>had to be in Sydney for a bit.

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>But I will say this.

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 12>So we've got a great piece in Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 12>from Tony Abbott, who is also there right now, and

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 12>he talks about how, you know, this conference is all

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 12>about maintaining these precious freedoms that we enjoy in Western civilization,

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 12>freedom of speech, association, freedom of religion. And I think

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 12>the big thing, the big problem that we have right now,

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 12>matn Paul, is that we are in a since where

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 12>we see the love of these values in retreat everywhere

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.479
<v Speaker 12>I think except the United States right now. And you

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 12>look at the way everybody in Europe has reacted to

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 12>jd Vance's speech. Unique just so, the head of the

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 12>Munich conference was in tears.

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 10>I can't believe.

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>She us, you know.

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 12>And it's like you've got people in Germany saying, oh,

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 12>you know, you're going to jail for a tweet.

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>And you had even on CBS today you.

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 12>Had them say, oh, well, the reason why the Holocaust

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 12>happened was people in Germany had too much free speech.

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 12>This is what we're up against, guys, this is what

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 12>we're again. So yes, good on the people at Rack.

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 12>I'll see you next year.

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And it's an all day, every day fight.

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>So Barnaby Joyce is being put in the deep freeze

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>by the people who lead the National Party, that being

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>David Little Proud. Now, first we had told you that

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the plan was that basically because he's a shadow minister,

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 2>he will not be given permission to leave basically his

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 2>seat during the election campaign.

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>We now learn that.

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Should there well after the election, that David Little Proud

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 2>will not put him forward for either a position in

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>a shadow cabinet or the full cabinet, or because of

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 2>an apparent daliance with potentially joining One Nation now.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Pauline Hansen, for her part.

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Has put her side of the story out there tonight

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 2>via her Facebook page.

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Please explain.

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 13>It was an article in today's paper about Barnaby Joyce. Well,

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 13>what a storm in the teacup. But we can expect

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 13>that of what's going to come out and lead up

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 13>to the selection. You know, the lies that have been

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 13>spread out there because people have self interest. I asked

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 13>Barnaby guess what. He came back and said, thanks Pauline,

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 13>but no, thank you. So he's remade loyal to one

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 13>to the Nationals. I should say I would like him

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 13>across the One Nation, but he said no, he's remained

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 13>loyal to the National Party.

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>Now, Matt, I don't know what you can. I don't

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 1>know if you want to get involved in this one.

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>But what's going on. I mean, Barnaby Joyce is a.

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Rock star to the people who are the core support

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 2>of the National Party. I get that outside of that

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 2>he might play very differently in a Teal seat, but

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about those seats.

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 3>What do you think, Well, look, obviously I love Barnaby.

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I think he did a great job at the last election.

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Look the proof is in the pudding. The Nationals Party

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 3>did not lose a single seat when Barnaby Joyce was

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 3>leader at the last election. In fact, Barnaby has led

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 3>a coalition to two elections and neither time did he

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 3>lose a seat. He gain seats that both would gained

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 3>a Senate seat at the last election. We're running in

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 3>a competitive position today to win the next election thanks

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 3>to the performance of the Nationals Party, not just at

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 3>the last election, but really since two thousand and seven.

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 3>The National's Party have notlested a seat since then, so

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 3>look been part of that. I think we should revere

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 3>our former leaders as someone who's proud of the National's Party.

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 3>And I certainly would never leave the National's Party. Is

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 3>Barnaby won't do either. And if there's anybody behind these stories,

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. You never hear their names, obviously, it's

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 3>all our names sort of stuff. They're all very brave.

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I just wish they'd shut up. I mean, the focus

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 3>now should be on winning the election. That's what we've

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 3>got to do. And anybody talking about dividing up the

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.919
<v Speaker 3>spoils of victory, well you're going to not get there

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 3>if you're focused on that. You've got to focus on

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 3>getting across the finish line first.

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Well again, I mean the best case scenario in the

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 2>polling right now is seventy three. And even then I

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 2>think that's a little bit top of your tippy toe.

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 2>See what happens, right, So anyone thinking that, oh, well

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>they've won this one, all they need to do is

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 2>just keep doing what they're doing. Labor made that mistake

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 2>in twenty nineteen. But let's get to the Barnaby joyce

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 2>of it all. Obviously there are people who don't like him,

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm sorry they don't understand the number of people

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 2>that are the ones that will go and do how

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 2>to votes, the ones that will knock on the doors.

0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 1>How many of those people do like him?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and I think you know, there's a couple of

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 12>things play here. I mean, number one, you're always going

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 12>to have as you come into an election, there's going

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 12>to be all these stories but people trying to split parties,

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 12>split one nation, split split nationals, one nation, all that

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 12>sort of thing. But you know there's another thing too.

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 12>Barnaby has been a very strong speaker against that. Zero

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 12>So people don't like him because of that, But again,

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 12>it doesn't really matter because you know, he's a hero

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 12>in these particular seats that they hold, that they have held,

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 12>and you know, eyes on the prize.

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Guys.

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the response from the supposedly mainstream Islamic

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 2>voices in Australia who have decided to come out and

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 2>focus on the reaction to what the nurses said, including

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>fatom of Payment, who's out there saying, well, haven't they

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:44.919
<v Speaker 2>been punished enough?

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Remember what they were openly bragging about. Remember what they

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>were openly bragging about. And he's Fatima Payment trying to

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:55.240
<v Speaker 1>pretend it's the messenger or the reaction to the message

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the problem, not what they.

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 14>Said, theology they have been punished. What is the end

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 14>goal here? What exactly are we trying to achieve justice

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.240
<v Speaker 14>or just public humiliation? We never see the same level

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 14>of anger and vitriol when the roles are reversed.

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, where is the role reversed? This is my thing.

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>This is one thing James I heard today.

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 2>There's been one hundred and fifty percent increase in physical

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 2>attacks against Islamic people.

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I can't argue the number there, but.

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 2>What is the what is the video example of the

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Jewish doctor this saying they're going to kill off Muslims.

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 12>This is so upsetting and I really feel like we're

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.479
<v Speaker 12>at a real sort of fork in the road. Yeah, moment, Paul,

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 12>with this situation here, because you've had I think the

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 12>Australia has it had fifty different groups, mainstream as well

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 12>as groups like his book Career, which is banned in

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 12>a lot of countries because of what it says and

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 12>what it's about. All say, Oh, you know, don't make

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 12>such a big deal about it. And you know, it

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.280
<v Speaker 12>tells me a couple of things. Number One, it tells

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 12>me they're not upset that they said this stuff. They're

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 12>upset that they got caught. Two, it tells me that

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 12>in a lot of these communities, this is what they

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 12>are marinating in. This is a sort of conversation and

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 12>discussion that is normal conversation, normal dinner table conversation. Remember

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 12>Jillian Trigg saying you could say what's to like around

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 12>the kitchen table? Well, guess what's being said around a

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 12>lot of these kitchen tables. But the third thing that

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 12>this says, well, I mean, this tells me that there's

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 12>a real issue we have here about you know, you

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 12>talk about community cohesion. Well, this is it because these

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 12>guys are acting like a bunch of cry bullis. But

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 12>you know they're saying, oh oh oh, we're the victims

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 12>here because one of us did the wrong thing, but

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 12>also we got caught doing the.

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Wrong If you want to be part of mainstream Australian society,

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 2>like all of these groups claim that they want to be,

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 2>then the mainstream response is to denounce what was said,

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 2>not to wait for the wiggle room, not wait twenty

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 2>four hours. The idoble embarrassment's enough place they can know.

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about small business versus the public sector. I

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 2>mentioned and I showed you the numbers between the start

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 2>of this mob and the upcoming election, small business has

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 2>gone backwards in terms of the number of people that employs.

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.240
<v Speaker 2>The federal government though, has gone by a football stadium

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 2>of people. And we've seen the attitude that the government

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 2>has towards small business where they think you've got enough

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.280
<v Speaker 2>money running around to bugger off to the super Bowl,

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>or if you would like the same tax rules to

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 2>apply to you as would apply to a financial service

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 2>that you are apparently a monocle wearing top hat to

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:21.879
<v Speaker 2>owning cigar smoking boss. We know labor, we know labor

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 2>doesn't get it when it comes to small business. But Matt,

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.760
<v Speaker 2>this is just open middle finger stuff, right, because the

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 2>modern project of the center left is that you become

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 2>dependent on the government, either through welfare, your work for them,

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 2>which means you're dependent for the income, or if you're

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 2>a private business, your biggest customer is the government. That's

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>what they try under Daniel Andrews. That's not what we

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 2>should cop across the rest of Australia.

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 3>Well's not out, Paul that the Labor government has not

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 3>set a priority of helping small business in this country.

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 3>For the reasons you've outline. They want more people to

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 3>be in union employer relationship, more people in the public

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 3>service that feathers ns and that's what they've driven towards.

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.359
<v Speaker 3>So it's no surprise we're seeing these results. But any

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 3>government should be judged, any person really should be judged

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 3>by the fruits of what you deliver, and the fruits

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 3>of the Labor Party that have delivered higher rent taide,

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:15.240
<v Speaker 3>higher taxes on people, higher energy prices, and we're seeing

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:20.280
<v Speaker 3>those smash Australian small businesses through the country. We're seeing

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 3>the throats of all of those decisions and these lower

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 3>amounts of people that are employing other people. Small business

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 3>are the biggest employer of other Australians. So when they

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 3>get hurt, everyone gets hurt. Everyone's job opportunities are hurt

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 3>as well. And we should particularly focus on these energy

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 3>price issue because while the government's out there crying and

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 3>they're spending your money to make it provide a subsidy

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 3>back to you, that doesn't insulate the small businesses who

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 3>have to pay higher input costs for all the higher

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 3>energy prices of manufacturing firms, transport firms, they're getting smashed

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 3>by this. That's why we've got to drop net zero

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 3>and focus on our own developing our own natural resources

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 3>again to bring prices down for people.

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's thank you very much.

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 2>And it's four degrees right now in London and Matt,

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I know it's not your thing, but feel free to

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 2>go to a cigar shop called James.

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Much More, not much warmer here inside it's terrible James J.

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Fox in the center of London. Go upstairs for a smoke.

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 2>But downstairs there's a museum of artifacts from Winston Churchill,

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:20.759
<v Speaker 2>including orders that he has made to that shop many

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 2>years ago. So go and see a holy site and enjoy.

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you mate, nice to talk to you both. All right,

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Senator future senator. Obviously don't smoke.

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>It's bad, terrible, awful, awful, terrible. Quick break back with more.

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to avoid the meetings, James, all right, quick

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>break back with more. Just enter price next. That looks

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>that lefties, where's ma ring?

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 14>What?

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Are a friend in need, friend indeed whatever, but a

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>friend who's willing, a friend who's willing to once he

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 2>hears the struggle that you're in to go in and

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 2>dive into dive into lucky dip style.

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>The used hand things. James McPherson, thank.

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 2>You very much. What a beautiful man you are. I

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 2>appreciate he went digging. We didn't have to wait for

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the cleanse. Thank you, James. Watch him in about eleven

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 2>minutes time. A couple of bits of fun before I

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 2>get to just into price, about a nampogip price, about

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 2>all the issues that we need to talk about with

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 2>the hope of the side today with the bafter awards

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 2>in the UK are the brutalist one other than that

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 2>who cares? But the bloke who hosted. It is David Tennant,

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 2>the great actor who played Doctor Who and a whole

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 2>bunch of other things. And wouldn't it be cool if,

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 2>like the next time there was the logis there was

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 2>something fun like this?

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 10>This is just fun.

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 7>One?

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 2>How good is that? That's the way to do it.

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I hope Conan does that with the oscars in a

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks. And here is what will now be

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 2>our nightly reminder that we have a very cringe full

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Prime minister.

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Roses are red violets of blue.

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 8>It's Valentine's today and we love blue collar working.

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:20.959
<v Speaker 1>Just into Nampa.

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Jimper Price would never be caught dead on camera doing

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 2>anything as cringeful as that, but she's got plenty to

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 2>say about big issues in Australia.

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Senator, love you to see you again, mate. How's Alice tonight?

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 12>Oh?

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 5>Look, Alice is all right tonight. I don't know how

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 5>I feel though after seeing the Prime Minister with that what,

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't even think i'd call it poetry. I'm feeling

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 5>a little bit disturbed right now.

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Paul, all right, well let's go, let's yeah, let's let's

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 2>let's let's get back to safer ground. Here, which is

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.879
<v Speaker 2>yourself and Peter Dutton have made some pretty major announcements

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 2>in and around safety in the territory and specifically in

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:57.760
<v Speaker 2>and around Palmerston. What do you hope to bring should

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 2>yourself and Peter Dutton be part of that government potentially

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 2>as soon as a couple of months away.

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 5>Look, safety is a key issue right throughout the Northern

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 5>Territory and you know, particularly places like Palmerston. And we've

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 5>got a wonderful candidate in Lisa Bayless up there who

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 5>has done the hard work to find out what the

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 5>community needs are, which is why we are able to

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 5>make this announcement of three hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars.

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 5>It's simple, really, it's about ensuring that the streets are

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 5>properly lit in parks parts that are particularly worrying for

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 5>the community. But you know, Lisa Bayless has got many

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 5>years as a police officer under her belt as well

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 5>as heading up the Police Association in the Northern Territory.

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:48.919
<v Speaker 5>She's an incredible candidate, as is Lisa Sebert, who has

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 5>an extensive career former career in the AFP. It's remarkable

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 5>I think that we've got such wonderful candidates, two women

0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 5>to lisas, one Indigenous, one not Indi, but a reflection

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:03.880
<v Speaker 5>of the Northern Territory running for the colp. But look,

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 5>we are all about ensuring our streets are going to

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 5>be safe right throughout the Northern Territory, and Leofanocchiaro has

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 5>already started a wonderful job at changing bail laws and

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 5>getting offenders off the street with outstanding warrants. So we'll

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 5>continue down that path and work hand in glove with

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 5>the territory government to ensure that our homes can be

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 5>much safer than what they have been.

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 2>I love between yourself, these candidates, the Chief Minister, the

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 2>future is female, and the future is bright in the

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Northern Territory.

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>All of those options are there on your ballot.

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about another scenario here involving the Central Land

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Council and its chair. You've got some pretty significant concerns

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 2>about things which are being discussed in relation to this

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 2>person's past.

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, look absolutely, I mean you know he's got a

0:45:55.040 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 5>horrible rup sheet of dB that we have uncovered through that.

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 5>Now the Land Council should have done their background checks

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 5>on those that were putting their name forward to be

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 5>proper persons for those positions as chair, and he was

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 5>previously the deputy chair, now he's chair. He's trying to

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 5>say that he has fronted up to domestic violence rallies

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 5>and spoken about his issues as an offender. But unfortunately,

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 5>what we see is those that run to the defense

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 5>of these men, and there's a number of them that

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 5>we've called out recently as chairs of Indigenous organizations. But

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 5>when these men are defended, what do we tell the victims?

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 5>What do we say to the women who've been on

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 5>the receiving end of violent perpetrators? Know that your voices

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:52.799
<v Speaker 5>aren't as important as those who are in powerful positions

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<v Speaker 5>making decisions about vulnerable communities, communities that experience highest rates

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<v Speaker 5>of domestic and family violence. We would not allow for

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<v Speaker 5>those standards under any other circumstances in this country, certainly

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<v Speaker 5>not if this was a non Indigenous person in a

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<v Speaker 5>chairperson's position. But half our problems as to why we

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<v Speaker 5>cannot tackle the scourge of violence is because we make

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<v Speaker 5>excuses for those who've got significant criminal history to be

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<v Speaker 5>in positions of standing. But that's what's been brought to

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<v Speaker 5>my attention over and over again, and I'm here to

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<v Speaker 5>say it's not good enough if not let a woman

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<v Speaker 5>take that position. Like we talk about smashing the patriarchy

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<v Speaker 5>when it comes to the western side of doing things,

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<v Speaker 5>but no one encourages that in terms of looking at

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<v Speaker 5>indigenous circumstances, women living under customer law and those sorts

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<v Speaker 5>of things. When do we as Aboriginal women get to

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<v Speaker 5>smash the patriarchy? When do we get to have our

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<v Speaker 5>feminist movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Bloody oath seeing it?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what is so offensive about this situation as

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<v Speaker 2>well is and I've only got about a minute hits,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but the idea that these people just keep

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<v Speaker 2>going around and around and around the system as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to sorry, you don't get to play anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get to be a leader because.

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<v Speaker 2>You, by your own actions, have given up the right

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<v Speaker 2>to call yourself one.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly right, exactly right. I mean when you when you

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<v Speaker 5>have committed such heinous crimes, the expectation shouldn't be, Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>this is going to be a great career move I

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<v Speaker 5>can now step up in the world because I've stopped

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<v Speaker 5>doing what I did in the past. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>go ahead, continue to do call out violence. If that's

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<v Speaker 5>what you think you want to do as part of

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<v Speaker 5>you're being a changed person. But don't expect that you

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<v Speaker 5>should be able to be in a powerful position that

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<v Speaker 5>makes determinations for communities, vulnerable communities that should not be

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<v Speaker 5>accepted at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Good on you just set an ampagmper price fighter in

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<v Speaker 2>all the different plays of social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Give all the thanks to her. I love talking to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it plenty more between now and fingers crossed

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<v Speaker 2>when you become a minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you mate, all the best, thank you. She's the best,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>The great James McPherson, the man who I will forever

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<v Speaker 2>be thankful every time I look to this piece of jewelry,

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<v Speaker 2>is up next with the Late Debut