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Speaker 1: From the newsroom, A news still Come.

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Speaker 2: To the.

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Speaker 3: Day there, I'm Andrew Bucklow. Quick question for you. Can

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Speaker 3: you remember what happened one hundred days ago?

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Speaker 1: No? Okay, let me fill you in.

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Speaker 3: Alex Demonor advanced to the quarterfinals of the Australian Open

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Speaker 3: for the first time and love him. The Gaza ceasefire

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Speaker 3: deal came into effect, and Donald Trump made this vow

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Speaker 3: as he was sworn in as US President for the

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Speaker 3: second time.

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Speaker 4: The Golden Age of America begins right now.

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Speaker 5: From this day forward, our country will flourish and be

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Speaker 5: respected again all over the world.

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Speaker 3: So here we are, one hundred days later. Has Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump delivered? In this episode will take a look at

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Speaker 3: his chaotic return to the White House, including his most

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Speaker 3: controversial policies that are reshaping not.

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Speaker 1: Only America but also the world.

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Speaker 3: What joining me now is Jared Monshein, who is director

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Speaker 3: of research at the United States Suddy Center, and.

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Speaker 6: A Jared Hello.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's have a bit of fun with the

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Speaker 3: first question. If you had to describe Donald Trump's first

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Speaker 3: one hundred day as a movie title.

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Speaker 1: What would it be.

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Speaker 6: The Disruptor?

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Speaker 3: I was thinking The Fast and the Furious, but I

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Speaker 3: think you might have peeped me with the disruptor. In

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Speaker 3: all seriousness, though, what if you thought of his first

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Speaker 3: one hundred days in office.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's definitely disrupted the status quod. There's no question

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Speaker 6: about it. His critics and his supporters would agree on that.

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Speaker 6: The question, in my mind is how much of this

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Speaker 6: stays and how much of this is unique to the

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Speaker 6: first hundred days and will likely be a bit different

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Speaker 6: as we move ahead through the many days remaining of

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Speaker 6: his administration.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's talk about some of his policies. Then

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Speaker 3: we'll start with domestic ones. What have been the most

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Speaker 3: controversial policies that he's rolled out so far in this term.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's a great question, and I think controversies and

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Speaker 6: the IVD beholder. So in some ways. His critics would

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Speaker 6: point to his tariff policy.

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Speaker 5: In a few moments, I will sign a historic executive

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Speaker 5: order instituting reciprocal tariffs on countries throughout the world. Reciprocal

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Speaker 5: That means they do it to us, and we do

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Speaker 6: His critics would also point to his immigration policy as

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Speaker 4: All illegal entry will immediately be halted and we will

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Speaker 4: begin the process of returning millions and millions of criminal

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Speaker 6: But I think his supporters would say that with his

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Speaker 6: immigration policy, he was simply doing what other presidents, including

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Speaker 6: Democratic presidents like Barack Obama, had done before. And his

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Speaker 6: tariff policy is something that maybe more historical presidents had done.

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Speaker 6: So it really depends on whose perspective you want to take.

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Speaker 6: But really immigration and tariffs in particular are the ones

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Speaker 3: With his tariff policy, I mean, he's slapping tariffs on

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Speaker 3: ten percent tariff at the moment. What do you think

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Speaker 3: his plan is there? What's the end goal? Why piece

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I think that question is the one that the

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Speaker 6: Trump administration has not been able to answer it coherently,

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Speaker 6: in my view, because they've had a few different goals

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Speaker 6: that are not exactly the goals that work in use

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Speaker 6: and together. So on one hand, they want to reshore manufacturing.

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Speaker 6: They also want to have lots more in revenue from

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Speaker 6: those who want to export to the United States, but

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Speaker 6: they also want to change the trade balance as well.

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Speaker 6: The way that these work economically is not really economically rational.

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Speaker 6: In my view, these don't really gel and so I

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Speaker 6: think that is something that his team has said but

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Speaker 6: we've seen movements in the bottom market that I haven't

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is certainly shaking things up on the international

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Speaker 6: I think tariffs is by far the most surprising. A

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Speaker 6: lot of people would say that his efforts in regards

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Speaker 6: but I don't think they're all that surprising. After all,

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Speaker 6: taking over Panama or Greenland. He had talked about taking

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Speaker 1: Just touching on Ukraine and Russia.

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Speaker 3: There, we saw Trump come out and have a bit

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Speaker 7: Over the weekend, the US President Donald Trump posted this

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Speaker 7: on truth Social I'm just trying to clean up the

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Speaker 7: mess that was left to me by Obama and Biden,

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Speaker 7: and what a mess it is. With all of that

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Speaker 7: being said, there was no reason for Putin to be

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Speaker 7: last few days. It makes me think that maybe he

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Speaker 7: doesn't want to stop the war. He is just tapping

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Speaker 7: me along and has to be dealt with differently through

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Speaker 7: banking or secondary sanctions. Too many people are dying. He

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Speaker 7: ends with three exclamation marks.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's starting to change his strategy there

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Speaker 3: towards a more friendly Ukraine strategy?

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Speaker 6: I don't think so necessarily. He has changed his rhetoric

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Speaker 6: day he might come out with some tough words for Russia,

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Speaker 6: and then on very next to you might come out

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Speaker 6: think there's really a very detailed strategy at play here.

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Speaker 6: It's sort of there's just well known, in my view,

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Speaker 6: tactics that he engages with, and he tries to get

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Speaker 6: more negotiated area where a more even conventional presidency or

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Speaker 6: administration probably would have blanded themselves. But on Ukraine and Russia,

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Speaker 6: I don't think one day's comments are a complete change

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Speaker 3: What do you think his policies have done in terms

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Speaker 3: of America's standing in the world.

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Speaker 1: Have they affected America's reputation?

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Speaker 6: They definitely have. You're seeing now a lot of US

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Speaker 6: the US, and they are doing ironically exactly what many

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Speaker 6: other US administrations had wanted them to do. Let's not

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Speaker 6: forget during the Barack Obama administration, his own Secretary Defense

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Speaker 6: may not like this agreement and may want to like

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Speaker 6: How much more the US is contributing to the security

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Speaker 6: could say that, on one hand, that's a positive from

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Speaker 6: But you know, the sort of uncertainty that the Trump

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Speaker 6: administration has prided itself on providing to the international stage. Yes,

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Speaker 6: it keeps adversaries off balance and uncertain, but it also

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Speaker 6: keeps allies balance and uncertain. So it's a tough situation.

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Speaker 6: But from one perspective, you could say that we are

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Speaker 6: seeing unprecedented engagement from some US allies for their own security.

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Speaker 3: Well, Donald Trump has been on an executive order blitz

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Speaker 3: since taking office back in January. He signed more than

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five orders in one hundred days. Now,

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Speaker 3: for context, Joe Biden only issued one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: two orders during his whole presidency.

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Speaker 5: In a few moments, how sign a historic executive order

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Speaker 5: to ban men from competing in women's sports.

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Speaker 6: Sure, we have an executive order ordering the declassification of

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Speaker 6: files relating to the assassination to President John F. Kennelly.

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Speaker 2: An executive order signed by US President Donald Trump within

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Speaker 2: build a next generation missile defense shield for America.

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Speaker 3: Critics have accused mister Trump for pushing the limits of

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Speaker 3: what do you reckon? Are those concerns justified?

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Speaker 6: There are some things that are precedent, there's some things

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Speaker 6: that are not unprecedented. And I should note also that

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Speaker 6: you know a single executive order. They're not only created equal.

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Speaker 6: So there is one famous executive order in which daigregated

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Speaker 6: the US military many decades ago during the Eisenhower administration.

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Speaker 6: But then Donald Trump obviously had an executive order on

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Speaker 6: paper straws. I don't think those are exactly the same

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Speaker 6: in terms of their weight, right, So a simple numerical

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Speaker 6: number of orders I don't think is telling of just

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Speaker 6: how much they have or have not done. But in

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Speaker 6: terms of precedents, you could say some of Trump's actions

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Speaker 6: have some precedents. In terms of him criticizing the Supreme

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Speaker 6: remove security clearances for some prior politicians. That's not unprecedented,

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Speaker 6: if anything, we've seen that before. Now, what is unprecedented

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Speaker 6: is some of his executive orders in relation to law firms,

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Speaker 6: him issuing executive orders on people who were in many

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Speaker 6: of him, that is a different approach, I think than

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Speaker 6: what we've seen in recent history.

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Speaker 1: And is that alarming you think?

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Speaker 6: I think for those who look at sort of democratic

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Speaker 6: for democratic processes, there is alarm there. But I mean

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Speaker 6: the key thing as well, though, is that this cuts

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Speaker 6: both ways. As much as he very well may be

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Speaker 6: taking this approach, now, the question is does this set

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Speaker 6: the stage for a subsequent democratic administration to do similarly?

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Speaker 6: But from a different political lens, you could say that

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Speaker 6: rails of what you think of Donald Trump. He has

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Speaker 6: proven effective at poking holes in sort of legal and

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Speaker 6: Let's you know, you can take the most egregious example

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Speaker 6: There was a whole legal debate around that that wasn't

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Speaker 6: just people being upset about the election or people perceiving

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Speaker 6: to have been stolen, but there's a whole legal debate

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Speaker 6: for it occurring on January six that is when the

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Speaker 6: electoral college votes were counted in Congress to decide the

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Speaker 6: actual victor of that election. And the thing is, we

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Speaker 6: in the US did not have enough clarity in the

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Speaker 6: electoral college system for determining a number of different questions,

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Speaker 6: including the role of the vice president on that day.

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Speaker 6: The vice president is supposed to oversee the county of

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Speaker 6: electoral College, but it was not clear what else they're

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Speaker 6: supposed to do. Fortunately, during the Biden administration, they cleared

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Speaker 6: of the participants in it. So I think you could

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Speaker 6: say that Donald Trump right now is flouting areas where

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Speaker 6: we have not had sufficient legislation and they will maybe

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Speaker 6: at the end of the day, poking holes where the

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Speaker 6: US Congress in particular needs to be clearer on how

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Speaker 3: Stick around, I mean just a moment, We'll find out

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Speaker 3: what the American people think of Donald Trump's performance so far.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I am chatting to Jared Monshine from the United States

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Speaker 3: Studies Center. Jared, what do the American people think of

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Speaker 3: Trump's first one hundred days in office? Are they approving

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Speaker 3: of his performance?

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Speaker 6: On the whole note, So, when he took office, he

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Speaker 6: had some the best numbers he's ever had. The first

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Speaker 6: few weeks in office, he actually had literally higher approval

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Speaker 6: rings than he ever had when he was in office

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Speaker 6: the first time. He had never had such positive approval ratings. Actually,

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Speaker 6: but I think the tariffs in particular as well as

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Speaker 6: perhaps immigration, have really changed that. And if you look

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Speaker 6: at where he is now, no US president in modern

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Speaker 6: polling history has had lower numbers at this point in

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Speaker 6: his administration. He is effectively underwater, as in less than

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Speaker 6: fifty percent approve of all of his policies, whether it

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Speaker 6: be the economy, international affairs, foreign affairs, in fighting inflation,

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Speaker 6: using the power of the presidency responsibly in each one

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Speaker 6: of these areas, he is actually at forty nine percent

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Speaker 6: or lower according to a number of polls, and so

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Speaker 6: as much as he started off effectively, he has very

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Speaker 6: quickly seen his numbers decrease.

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Speaker 3: White that last question for you, Jared, what do you

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Speaker 3: think these first hundred days suggest about how the rest

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Speaker 3: of Trump's second term might unfold? Well?

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Speaker 6: I see two huge eras of his first term. One

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Speaker 6: is before the midterms in November twenty twenty six, and

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Speaker 6: one is after. Before the midterms, he has majority in

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Speaker 6: the Senate and House of Representatives, but after the midterms

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Speaker 6: he very well would not. And if he does maintain

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Speaker 6: majority in both the House and the Senate, then he

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Speaker 6: would be the first president to not lose seats since

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Speaker 6: two thousand and one or two thousand and two, I

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Speaker 6: should say, and that was right after the September eleven attacks,

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Speaker 6: So I don't think that's likely. So I think right

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Speaker 6: now what we're going to see for the rest of

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Speaker 6: the Trump term, I think really only matters until January

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty seven, and that's when the new Congress takes office.

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Speaker 6: And what I'm wondering is what he does until then

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Speaker 6: beca because there is quite a lot that he has

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Speaker 6: wanted to do, but the pulling numbers are not looking

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Speaker 6: all that's promising for him being able to effectively do them.

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Speaker 3: Well, whatever happens, you can guarantee you it's going to

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Speaker 3: be a wild ride. A big thank you to Jared

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Speaker 3: from the United States a study center, and a reminder

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Speaker 3: that you can get the latest updates on Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: We've got plenty of other content as well. It's not

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Speaker 3: all Trump. I promise I'll check to you again tomorrow.

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