WEBVTT - Credlin | 6 August 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:05.480 Peter Quedlin Live from year twenty four. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:10.920 Good evening, welcome to the program. Great to have your company. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.680 Here's what's coming up tonight on the show. Chris Bowen's 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:18.599 climb and hypocrisy lavish overseas travels stuff was tabled today, 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.120 of course, that taxpayer funded Fiji summit and most leaders 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:23.960 in the world are saying no, we don't want to come. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.360 And the growing cost of chasing net zero aid. Morrison 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.240 with all that in a moment, Plus more fallout two 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:34.239 from Victoria's damning Iback report and why critics say the 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:38.240 watchdogs toothless. A former New South Wales Supreme Court judge 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:42.960 joins me he'll outline what must change if Victoria is 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:47.240 serious about cleaning up corruption. Questions over the safety and 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:51.800 security about politicians too arise in threats from the radical left. 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.920 Plus while Tony Burk's got a battle on his hands 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:59.080 to get Labour's migration policy through cabinet, Paul and Hanson today, well, 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.880 she's made her points on open borders very clear. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:04.600 So I don't care. 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.080 What people think, whether you know it's going to affect 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.319 their businesses. They're not going to sell them many products 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.680 or the universities because they won't have the number of 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:13.120 foreign students coming in here. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:14.120 I don't care. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.120 My concern is for those Australians that can't get a 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.679 roof over the head and a decent standard of living 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:21.600 and way of life. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.360 We will stay on this issue because labor's in a 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:29.440 world of pain over migration for too long. They've used 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.440 record high migration as a way to pump prime. They're 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:37.600 faltering budget position to artificially spike growth numbers to make 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.640 things better than they really are to avoid a technical recession. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.800 But that strategy is coming unstark, as every Ponzi scheme 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.640 eventually does, and this time it's got as much about 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:54.520 a cultural impact of mass migration that's loading the polling 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.600 pressure on labor as much as it is they hit 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:03.440 on households because much as migration can mask a bad budget, 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:08.080 and under the Albanezer government up until now, that's what's happened. Eventually, 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.440 it hurts people out of per capita basis when the 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:17.399 unplanned arrival of millions hits housing, employment and social cohesion 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:22.399 in per capita terms, So that's GDP per person. Australia 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.440 is going backwards, and as the polls show. People have 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:30.480 woken up as to why it's not just parties on 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:34.200 the center right filling the high migration backlash. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.640 But now all also labor. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.600 And that's what's got Tony Burke, the Home Affairs Minister, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:45.520 so spooked that he's acting. At least he was acting 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.720 until he hit a brick wall at Cabinet on Monday. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:52.600 Having got ahead of himself, Burke had booked a spot 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.120 today at the National Press Club, all set to deliver 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.359 what had been briefed out as the major speech on migration, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:03.600 replete with speculated changes to targets and new rules for 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.120 asylum seekers, until he was rolled. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.320 Well, let's be really clear about what happened here. Tony 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:15.240 Burke arrogantly booked in a National Press Club address to 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.320 announce a new policy which he had not yet got 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.880 Cabinet approval for. He took it to Cabinet on Monday. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:25.680 He got rolled at Cabinet by his colleagues, who forced 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.480 him to cancel his speech on Thursday in a public 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:33.520 humiliation of the Minister for Home Affairs because he hadn't 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.200 done the work and it wasn't yet ready to be 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.400 publicly announced. For a very senior cabinet minister and a 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:44.120 very serious, seriously experienced politician like Tony Burke. This is 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:48.400 about as embarrassing as it gets, and I really start 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.720 to question whether the government even has a plan to 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.480 follow through on their announcement that they want to reduce 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.880 migration from the budget nearly four months ago now, because 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.760 this is what this is about. This is about achieving 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.720 the targets that failed to make every other financial year. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.840 The reality year is that Labor has never once met 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:10.320 any of its migration targets. Every year it puts out 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:14.560 a set of forecasts that every year arrivals into Australia 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:18.359 exceed them. Indeed since the Albanezer government was elected, and 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.640 this has meant the entry of millions into this country. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:22.400 Now. 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.599 Partly it's the fake budget hit that I mentioned above, 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:29.799 the Ponzi scheme that big migration numbers do to the budget, 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.279 but Labour's also use mass migration as a way to 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.800 buy itself more votes, because as soon as people land here, 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.359 Labor can't wait to make them citizens, and in the 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.000 mass events held by Burke just prior to last year's 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.840 election also signed them up as quickly as they can 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:53.240 as voters. Until that was the polls turned against them. 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:58.080 This is why Burke's panicking even though cabinets Left faction 0:04:58.640 --> 0:04:59.760 is pushing back. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.400 James Pattison again, Well. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.400 It's definitely about politics. This is a government that was 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.719 very happy to bring in one and a half million 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.480 people over the first few years of their time in office, 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.200 but now that it has become a political problem for them, 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.200 they are desperately running around looking for a solution. And 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.320 the kind of things that Tony Burke apparently proposed to cabinet, 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.560 which his colleagues have pushed back on, are the kind 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.719 of things that the Labor Party has criticized Conservative governments 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.599 for contemplating doing in the past, including restricting their peal 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:32.240 rights in the soylumn system, including forcing people offshore to 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:37.880 make applications, including really cracking down on appeals and applications. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:39.880 I mean, these are the kind of things that no 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.600 one joins the Labor Party to do. If they are 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:46.080 contemplating doing them, the only reason can be because of politics. 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.640 They don't sincerely believe in these kind of tough changes. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.440 Well that's the coalition refusing to buy Labour's newfound support 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.320 for sensible migration, also refusing to buy it is One 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:02.839 Nation leader Pauline Hanson. If anyone thinks she'll let Labor 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:08.920 try and rebrand themselves as somehow tough on migration or forget. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.599 It, they're sched to do anything but based on really 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.400 the one issue is mass migration that's happened in Australia. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:19.320 So Tony Burker saying, hey, I really need to pull 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.000 back on my speech that I was going to give 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.080 it the Press Club because he's got to peace the Unions, 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.720 he's got to peace the other left leaning in his 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:31.719 party as well and the Greens. So he's got a 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:32.720 battle on his hands. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:35.920 Look nothing else. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:41.599 What's happening now is that finally we Australians are having 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.599 the long overdue debate on migration that you have been 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:50.120 demanding for years, that in the end is a good thing, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.680 right and this today too. Weeks and weeks after the 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.760 offensive segment first day, and days after the woman who 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:05.640 created it gave a half hearted apology of her own, 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.600 ABC Managing director Hugh Marks finally bit the bullet and 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:15.840 apologize for airing highly offensive rape based content regarding Missus 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:20.320 Gina rein Hart, not that the Communications Minister had anything 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.840 to do with it. Just hours before the ABC apology, 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:28.120 Arnaka Wells reviews to even say that one was warranted. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.360 My personal view is that that was unacceptable, but it's 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.320 not for me to make that determination. It's for the 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.560 ombdsman to do so. And I'll anticipate your next question, Harry. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.520 If the onbodsman finds that, like. 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.800 In my view, it's unacceptable, it would be appropriate for 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.000 the ABC to issue an apology. But what's important is 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.720 that that process plays out first, and that's what any 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.960 news publisher would expect the Minister for Communications to act 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:51.680 in this process. 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.800 Well, she wasn't alone. All those Labor MPs fence sitting 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.560 unwilling to demand the ABC do the right thing, indeed 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.400 saying that they've never seen the tape. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.360 Please, I haven't seen the clip that you're referring to. 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:07.520 It's not a show that I watch. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.200 I want to be clear, I've not seen the video 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:10.360 and I don't intend to watch it. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.800 From what's been described to me, it is unacceptable. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.960 At least Labour's Peter Khalil was honest enough to call 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:21.480 it out for what it was. 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:26.080 It's unacceptable no matter who it is, whether you agree 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.400 you disagree with the person that kind of violent imagery 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.200 and that misogynist imagery. It would not be accepted for 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.840 any of the any of my colleagues in the Parliament 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:35.360 who are women. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:37.920 Well good on him. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.480 The public outrage about the segment was real, absolutely, But 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.400 don't think for a minute that's what's prompted the ABC's 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.680 change of heart today. After all, the ABC doesn't care 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.920 about the public or ratings for that matter, given it's 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.600 billion dollar yearly budget is guaranteed whether people watch it 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.960 or they don't. Now what finally saw the ABC do 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.760 the decent thing here was the threat of legal action 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:07.040 from a businesswoman with very very deep pockets. And even 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:11.840 the apology today came with barbes like this Hu Mark's 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.400 declaring that while the Ombudsman's found the film did not 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:20.240 breach the ABC's editorial policies, the ABC acknowledges the episodes 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.440 fall in short of community expectations. Now, what sort of 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.400 editorial policies does the ABC have if it thinks that 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:32.040 naming and threatening a woman with anal rape and associated 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.600 violence is not a breach of them? That instead, it's 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:41.160 it's comedy, it's satire. It's not satire, it's sadistic and 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.960 the ABC. Well, they know the difference. The ABC's problems 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.920 with bias are systemic. The ABC's waste of taxpayer billions 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.280 is legendary. I mean, I was the ABC advisor for 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:58.720 Richard Allston when he was the Communications Minister under John Howard. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.160 I was also the chief of st after Helen Coonan 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.920 when she held the same portfolio a few years later. 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:07.840 And I've now come to the position that the ABC 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:12.520 should no longer be supported by the taxpayer purse. If 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.080 people want to watch it or listen to it, good 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:20.760 on them, they should access it now via a subscription service, because, 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.960 like you, I can think of far better ways to 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:33.240 spend that one point two billion every year. An hour 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.120 back to Victoria and the release of the corruption watchdogs 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:41.320 report into Operation Richmond. New Premier Ben Carroll hid from 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:45.680 genuine scrutiny yesterday, holding a quick and dirty press conference 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.040 at exactly the same time as the IBACK Commissioner was 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:53.600 handing down her bombshell report into the Andrews government and 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.840 backroom deals with the firefighters union. And that was so 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.760 he wouldn't have to answer any tough questions. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.800 I have not read the report. I'll be reading the 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.800 report tonight. It has been tabled in the Parliament. While 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.079 I'm here, I'm going to read the report carefully. I'm 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.040 going to study it and give the Victorians the action 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.080 and the answers they deserve. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.400 Did you time this press conference specifically to avoid taking 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.839 questions on this matter? You knew it was being tabled 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.079 at nine point thirty this morning? 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.520 No, this was always in my diary. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.640 Well today when we all assume the report would have 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:37.319 been read and Carol would front the cameras hit away 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.880 again instead sending out a colleague to take the media hits, 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.120 and if you can believe it, they hadn't found time 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:45.800 to read the report either. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:47.480 Have you read the report? 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.360 I've been catching up on my new portfolio and I 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.920 have been starting to get into this report. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.240 Are you interested to read it? 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:56.559 If you'll learn anything new? 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.760 I think we can always learn from a recommendations that 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.679 from IBAC and the observations that they make, and I 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.600 think that I will all of us will have a rate. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.720 I'm mean, look at the game here, state and federal. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.560 This is the new playable from Labor. I haven't seen it. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.800 About the Gena rein hart Skittle, I haven't read it about. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:18.520 The IBAC report. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.720 Ben Carroll can't be credible on crime and corruption, saying 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.160 that he'll root it out. That integrity is an optional 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.920 anymore under his leadership if he can't front the cameras 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.960 and address a report into a government where he sat 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:38.040 around the table as a senior member of cabinet. Now, 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:42.160 worse still, the public servant named hundreds of times in 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.920 the report remains tonight the head of the Education Department 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:50.400 in Ben Carroll's new government. At the very least, Tony 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.640 Bates should have been sacked and Carroll should have had 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.360 the guts today to front the media. 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:01.200 By the end of the day. Yesterday, Carol should have 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:06.280 sacked Miss Debates. What did the premier do? He claimed 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.520 he hadn't read the report. He then hid for the 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:13.320 rest of the day. He's hidden again today. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:14.920 I'll say it again. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.960 He can change the leader in Victoria, but you can't 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:25.880 change labor. All right, let's go to Camperow for the headlines. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.000 Appleitico reporter Trey mcintish. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.199 The ABC has finally apologized to gena Ryan Hart over 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.320 a controversial segment that depicted a violent assault of the 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.280 mining magnate. It was part of the Race Around the 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.400 World program Gena Rean Hart had asked for an apology 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.000 and threatened legal action. The matter was referred to the 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:48.480 ABC Obitsman. On Thursday, Managing Director Hugh Marx released his statement. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.960 While the ombitsman has found that the film did not 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:55.280 breach the ABC's editorial policies, the ABC acknowledges the episode 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:59.560 has fallen short of community expectations. The ABC apologizes to 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.760 Missus and to anyone else affected or upset by the 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.040 publication of the film. Parliament returns here next week and 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.880 Labour is facing an uphill battle to get its gambling 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.640 reforms through the Senate. The changes appear friendless. The Coalition 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.559 joined the Greens in demanding major reform, including stopping inducements. 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.280 Labor has been pressed on whether it's really willing to 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.960 walk away from these reforms if it doesn't get its way. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.720 We are some ways away from that. We're having constructive discussions. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.720 I'll continue to do that with my counterparts. We'd love 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:28.160 to see this. 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.400 Past and I think a sensible balance can be struck here. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.640 The Acting Prime Minister, Richard Miles in Darwin today. He 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.720 can't escape questions though about why Luke Gosling is still 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:41.080 a Special Envoy despite facing assault allegations. New twenty four 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.400 has been told not everyone and cabinet is happy with 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:44.000 the decision. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.760 There is a legal process underway in relation to Luke, 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.960 so there's you know, I'm just limited in what I 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.440 can say, but there's also a presumption of innocence. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.520 Also today, Labour's Ed Husick is taking leave after he 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.840 was involved in a serious car accident with the tr 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.560 on Sydney's M seven on Tuesday night. The MP was 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.560 taken to hospital with minor cuts, fractures and concussion. Trudy 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.080 McIntosh News twenty four camera, all. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.160 Right, let's get across all those headlines and more and 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.680 bring in my panel now, National Affairs editor at the 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.200 Daily Telegraph, News twenty four host James Morrow and the 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.800 Deputy Executive director with the IPA, Dan Wild. 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:22.600 Dan. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:27.400 We'll get into the internal ructions inside Labor in a moment. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.480 But Tony Burke canceling that press club address today, just 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.840 more AMMO for Pauline Hanson. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:34.440 Have a listen. 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:39.240 Why bring in to me people that don't fit the 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.760 needs that we want in Australia. We don't need any 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:48.000 more Uber drivers nail technicians, dog walkers. These people gone 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.840 stop all that. So I don't care what people think, 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.600 whether you know it's going to affect their businesses. They're 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.720 not going to sell them many products. All the universities 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.240 because they won't have the number of foreign students coming 0:15:58.280 --> 0:15:58.640 in here. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:15:59.640 I don't care. 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:05.560 Clearly, Dan, this is biting into Labour's private polling. Now 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.520 that's the only reason they had tried to take anything 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:10.200 to cabinet. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:12.880 Well, that's right. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:14.800 We know that this is a government that has been 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.560 driven by politics and politics only when it comes to immigration, 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.560 and their program has been a total disaster. I mean 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.600 you outline the economic disaster with the per capita growth 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.440 going backwards for ten out of fifteen quarters. We know 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.520 the social problems, the political problems that have come from 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:33.440 that as well. So look what's happening here, as you 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.640 well know, is we've seen this all across the western world. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.080 We've seen it in the UK where Nigel Farage the 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.680 insurgency force decimated the Tories and then he started taking 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.320 all of the labor voters in the in the regions 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.200 and the outer parts of the major cities who had 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.640 had a gupfull of mass migration. We saw it in 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.160 the US where Trump won in twenty sixteen, in large 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.120 part because he won a whole bunch of Democratic voters 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.600 who maybe had never voted Republican ever before, but listened 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.640 to Trump's message on immigration and said we need to 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.600 have a chain. And that's clearly happening here now in Australia. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.480 What I find interesting politically, Peter is you've got probably 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.879 half the Labor Party who probably understand this is a problem. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:10.639 You know, these are out of suburban people, with a 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.000 lot of blue collar, working class voters who don't want 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.520 this anymore. But you've got a bunch of Wokesters as 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.440 well in the inner cities who want mass migration. They 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.000 believe that multiculturalism is a force for good, because they 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.200 want to dilute Australian culture, because they believe Australia is 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.240 a bad racist country. So how on earth they're actually 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.760 going to get a sensible immigration policy out of that cabinet, 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.679 I don't know, And I don't think Tony Burt's going 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:34.760 to be able to get the job done. 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:41.040 Yeah, the old labor right James would have backed sensible migration. 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.520 They have been rolled by the labor left and consistently 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.160 that's occurred obviously on Monday with Tony Burke. But it's 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.520 like that battle over night in Michigan where the socialists 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:53.439 radical left are changing the face of the Democrats as well. 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.280 Yeah, and that recent Michigan that you allude to is 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.360 really fascinating because you know, what happens in America we 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.080 see eventually land in Australia as well. And what we've 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:07.160 seen over there is this Democrat socialist politics. It's basically, 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.719 you know, a hard left socialist politics twinned with a 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.639 free Palestine, gaza kind of Muslim brotherhood adjacent style of 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.200 politics that ties very closely to Islam. Now a Muslim 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.560 candidate there in Michigan has one Michigan has a huge 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.760 Muslim population. He's very radical, very radical on Israel. He 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:28.440 beat a Democrat establishment candidate who, as you say, Peter, 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.440 it would have been basically like, you know, a labor 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:34.720 right type pro industry, pro worker, pro America. And now 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.960 the politics on the left there are now entirely you know, 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.800 not just anti America, but an anti American and I 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:42.760 think that's where you're going to wind up seeing a 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.159 push on the left coming from you know, We already 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.520 saw that happen with Tony Burker, what happened to him cabinet? 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.720 What's just going to get worse here, I suspect. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:55.040 Let's go back to IVAC and Victoria and Ben Carroll 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.040 who yesterday hadn't read the report and today was hiding 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:00.120 under his desk. 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:05.120 What did the premier do? He claimed he hadn't read 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.440 the report. He then hid for the rest of the day. 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.440 He's hidden again today. 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.560 You can't say you want to be tough on corruption 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.720 if you can't read the report. You can't front the 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.639 front the camera's dad, and you can't tell us what 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:21.399 you're going to fix. 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.080 Exactly. And you can't say that you're going to stand 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.280 up for integrity. I mean, this was his big pitch, 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.040 right that he's going to be mister integrity. Well he's 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.359 already failed that. And look, the issue here is that 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.920 Ben Carroll was a very senior and influential member of 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:42.159 the Andrews government and the Allen government. Did he seriously 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.560 not know about any of this. I'm not saying he's 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.960 necessarily implicated in at all, but if you want to 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.439 be a man of integrity and of leadership, then you 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.359 needed to have done the right thing at the time. 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.840 He also stood by at best during COVID when the 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.600 schools were locked down. He's Immigration minister. All the schools 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:01.920 were closed and all of the damage that has done 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:05.960 to children in the next generation. There's been no accountability, 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.760 there's bien, no apology, there's been no acceptance that anything 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.600 has been done wrong. So look, ultimately, he started his 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:16.320 premiership by saying he's different. I'm not Andrews, I'm not Alan, 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.720 I'm going to lead a different kind of government, basically 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:20.840 saying you can trust me more than you can trust 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.320 anyone else to fix the state. But I've got to 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.879 say the fact that he's been running and hiding is 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.800 you know, it's already raising some serious questions in voters' 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.199 minds about whether he is actually any different from the 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.040 other two that came before him. 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.399 I'll get into the big spending from Chris Bowen on 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.000 international junkets in a moment. This story that's broken this 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:48.239 afternoon about the Prime Minister quietly charging taxpayers for a 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:52.320 family trip. It looks like a used family reunion to 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:57.000 bring his adult son down to canber for the budget. Now, 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.440 I think this is pretty extraordinary. The Sun's twenty five, 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:04.359 as I understand, and it's working. Now, why on earth, 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.919 James Morrow, a taxpayer is paying for this? 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:12.800 Well, I have absolutely no idea, but as a taxpayer, 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.439 this is the sort of thing that absolutely infuriates me. 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.600 You know, every month when I get paid and when 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:22.160 everybody else who's a pay as you go taxpayer gets paid, 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.000 they take a huge chunk of all of the money 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.320 that you make and say, well, we need it for 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.920 all these important things. And some of those important things 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:35.119 include apparently flying the twenty five year old kid of 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.240 the Prime Minister, who makes something like a half a 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:40.199 million dollars a year I guess, from city to camera, 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.800 which is not the most expensive flight in the world. 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:46.560 Why can't the Prime Minister put his own hand in 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:48.919 his own pocket, or Nathan put his own hand in 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:51.919 his own pocket for a ticket down to camera, or 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.080 just get in the car and drive. It is absolutely infuriating. 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.120 And it is these little things, I think, much more 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.160 than you know, billions of dollars in way the dis 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.480 or things like this that really aggravate people, because you know, 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:06.560 those are the things that you can identify with and 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.480 you can think, why is he doing this? He's on 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:11.880 a half million dollars a year. It's infuriating. 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.520 And he's got two luxury homes and he's got a 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.280 car provided by the taxpay. I could go on the 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:23.280