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Speaker 1: This is the Fitsy and with her with Kate Richie podcast,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk screen time addiction.

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Speaker 2: I know phones discuss I mean, look, they're pretty wonderful.

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Speaker 2: And when you cast your mind back to the days

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Speaker 2: when you didn't have a smartphone or a phone in

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Speaker 2: your bag, I mean, I'm dumbfounded as to how we

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Speaker 2: ever met up for coffee or met your mum at

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Speaker 2: the mall, or you know, asked your husband to pick

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Speaker 2: up snags on the way home.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, weed, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe it was just easier.

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Speaker 4: But you know, it was a phone call everybody gets

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Speaker 4: once a day. What should we have for dinner? What

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Speaker 4: do you think about dinner tonight?

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Speaker 2: I'd love to get that phone call as a single mother,

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Speaker 2: Nobody asks me. It's a conversation I have in my

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Speaker 2: mind all to myself, and then I go to the

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Speaker 2: effort of making dinner and I put all the thought

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Speaker 2: into it, and then the young child at the child

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Speaker 2: at the table cries because that's not what she feels like.

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Speaker 1: I ran.

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Speaker 3: From high school, loud Sister. I ran into an old

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Speaker 3: wheel friend from high school, color Rumsel.

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Speaker 5: She said, do you remember that you used to wring

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Speaker 5: my home phone and my dad would struggle to hand

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Speaker 5: the phone over to me. But that was the only

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Speaker 5: way I could get in contact. And how nerve wracking

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Speaker 5: was it? Oh, and then she would she said, I

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Speaker 5: would then have to pull the phone around and go

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Speaker 5: into another room and close the door so Dad couldn't

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Speaker 5: hear me.

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Speaker 3: So we couldn't even do that.

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Speaker 2: We'd have to go round into the hallway and sit

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Speaker 2: outside the bathroom and know that everyone was in the

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Speaker 2: lounde room.

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Speaker 4: And then you got a portable phone, remember that, and

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Speaker 4: you could walk around the house that had the antenna up.

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Speaker 1: Put the antenna up, I'm in the backyard.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're like a little businessman. This is the thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, phones to a point have made life easier, but

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Speaker 2: we're more contactable, and that that's not always a good thing.

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Speaker 2: And now we don't know how to live without them.

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Speaker 2: And let's be honest, most of us are probably addicted

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Speaker 2: to the phone for one reason or another. And it's

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Speaker 2: right up there. I mean, the quotees pretty full on

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Speaker 2: from this doctor coming out of the UK. He's saying

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Speaker 2: something like, at the psychological level, scientists say that getting

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Speaker 2: hooked on doom scrolling is no difference to a dependence

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Speaker 2: on heroin.

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Speaker 3: So it's like it's right up there. There are five.

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Speaker 2: We've actually got a I'm going to go through the

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Speaker 2: list of things of factors that would indicate that you

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Speaker 2: are addicted. We've got a little list here of our

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Speaker 2: off airteam of what the average daily intake of phones

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Speaker 2: on phone screen time is accurate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to do that as well. I actually

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Speaker 3: don't know how to do.

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Speaker 4: On Frinday night, I told you that me missus and

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Speaker 4: I missus went to a hotel for the night.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you how exciting it was to get

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Speaker 1: into bed.

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Speaker 4: Around eight thirty and we lay there just sort of

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Speaker 4: scrolling through social media, just the two of us separated.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, likelcklacklack black black like like fellow like blacklock black

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Speaker 1: black like like, which was cool. That's all I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 5: You poor thing.

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Speaker 2: Did you put the phones down at some point?

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Speaker 1: None of your business.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for the moments where you are so upset

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Speaker 5: with yourself. You've been just scrolling for.

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Speaker 1: Half an hour.

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Speaker 3: I am so upset with the top so I can

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Speaker 3: be leaning in.

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Speaker 2: I just go to check that my alarm is on

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Speaker 2: for the morning, and then an hour later, my arm's

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Speaker 2: gone to sleep because I've just leant up on the

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Speaker 2: side of the bed. My neck's in like a funny position,

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Speaker 2: and then I realize it's been forty five minutes. It's madness. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let me before we get to the screen time, because

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Speaker 2: I think I know who's going to be on their

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Speaker 2: phone most and who might be most addicted. The fire

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Speaker 2: factors that would indicate you actually have an issue rather

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Speaker 2: than just using it for.

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Speaker 3: Useful whatever. I can't even speak this morning.

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Speaker 2: Got it number one? How long you're on your phone?

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Speaker 2: So it does come down to the amount of ours.

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Speaker 2: They haven't named the amount of hours that are bad

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Speaker 2: for you. That would differ between person to person, but

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Speaker 2: it does say, just like cocaine or cannabis. Cannabis addict,

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Speaker 2: they need to get an even greater dose to feel

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Speaker 2: the same high. So the same thing happens with the

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Speaker 2: smartphone addictions.

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Speaker 3: Sore.

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Speaker 2: One day you might have an hour, and then six

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Speaker 2: months later that one hour does not give you the

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Speaker 2: dopamine hit that you're looking for, So it's more and

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Speaker 2: more time.

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Speaker 1: I've got my money on FITZI.

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Speaker 2: Number two how it affects your life, and that's divided

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Speaker 2: into two categories. Apparently a word that I've never heard

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Speaker 2: of before could salience and conflict. So salience means that

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Speaker 2: your smartphone or what you do on your phone becomes

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Speaker 2: the most important thing and.

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Speaker 3: Your life, so you prioritize it.

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Speaker 2: And then conflict, of course, means that what you do

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Speaker 2: on your phone starts to disrupt all of the other

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Speaker 2: areas of your life. So maybe you are looking for

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Speaker 2: a brand new partner and it causes life in your relationship,

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Speaker 2: problems in the relationship.

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Speaker 3: Why you use your phone?

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Speaker 2: So do you use the phone as a way of

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Speaker 2: modifying your mood? Are you looking for something that you

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Speaker 2: don't have?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Are you almost trying to make yourself feel bad? I

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Speaker 2: think sometimes people like to be confronted with images of

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Speaker 2: the perfect family so they can somehow feel down about

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Speaker 2: their own existence. Yes, you can get buzzed up, high, aroused,

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Speaker 2: and excited, or it can do exactly the opposite, to tranquilize,

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Speaker 2: to numb, to de stress, and to relax. If you're

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Speaker 2: using it to regulate your emotions, put the.

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Speaker 4: Phone more screen time, less paper time, mate, job made it?

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Speaker 5: Kick it off?

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Speaker 1: Let's reading time.

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Speaker 5: Last last week's average, last week's average.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to do it.

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Speaker 5: Four hours forty three. I'm not happy with that for myself.

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Speaker 5: That's really bad.

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Speaker 3: You think that's quite low. Tuesday was my worst day.

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Speaker 5: That's crap by me, and I am so sorry, but

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Speaker 5: I just need one last hit.

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Speaker 2: Askimmity that's sitting in it at around one of our

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Speaker 2: off team members, Maddie, she's at four and a half hours.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I am at what are you last week's average.

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Speaker 4: Last week's Daly average three hours eleven minutes. That's not bad,

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Speaker 4: pretty heavy on it.

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Speaker 3: It is three hours eleven am I the worst? Have

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Speaker 3: I got work?

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Speaker 2: We've got Jess is in at three hours, Oli's in

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Speaker 2: at six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah and a half.

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Speaker 2: I think, oh no, six hours fifty nine, seven hours.

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Speaker 4: Seven hours on your phone only a toks man.

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Speaker 3: I thought Jay would be the highest. Tell me, what

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Speaker 3: are you? I'm five hours five hours?

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Speaker 5: Nut. It's because I work and then I watch all

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Speaker 5: my shows on my phone.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of Kendall Jenny gear too, and that

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Speaker 1: of course. Absolutely Oh wow, okay, what's mind you? Oh dear?

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Speaker 3: What is it? My daughter's not listening?

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Speaker 1: Six hours forty five minutes. No, no, it's not Tom.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not last week's average.

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Speaker 1: It's last week, last week's.

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Speaker 3: Average, last daily daily average. No it's not it's what

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Speaker 3: is it, Tom forty five? What is it?

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Speaker 1: Six hours forty five? You've got to be kidding me,

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Speaker 1: O Rich, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Mate?

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Speaker 4: Because you don't even know how to use technology?

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Speaker 3: I know how to use that. That's not true.

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Speaker 2: I actually I'm asking I need a screenshot of that.

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Speaker 1: Screw. How are you googling yourself?

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Speaker 3: How's the start of the break as well? I think

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Speaker 3: we all know who's going to be.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's.

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