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Speaker 1: I'm Britney Saunders and I'm all right hey.
Speaker 2: And this is High Scrollers, the podcast version of your
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Speaker 1: If it's trending, going viral, or has your gripped, we're
Speaker 1: talking about it.
Speaker 2: Coming up on this episode. Britney's purchased something this week
Speaker 2: that has me in a bit of a tizzy. Stick
Speaker 2: around to find out what she's bought, because it actually
Speaker 2: shocked me.
Speaker 1: Plus Mecha of All Businesses and Brands has launched a
Speaker 1: campaign that has absolutely flopped in my opinion, and it
Speaker 1: hasn't landed the way they thought it would. So I'm
Speaker 1: here to give some insights into a cost per weear
Speaker 1: campaign that they've done.
Speaker 2: And I've got sad news for Vanda punt Rules fans.
Speaker 2: I for one, am absolutely devastated, and I'm giving you
Speaker 2: an anti royal flush this week.
Speaker 1: And we're chiming in on the Cape Foster and Savvy Drama.
Speaker 2: Plus influencers were asked at the TikTok aboards. Is influencing
Speaker 2: really hard work? And we have some opinions to add
Speaker 2: to the viral video that is making headlines around the world.
Speaker 2: Stick around all that more coming up in this episode
Speaker 2: of High Scrollers. Deal me in, Dull.
Speaker 1: Let's go good morning, Hang, I've got popcorny on mountain.
Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, I'll say now, good morning, good morning,
Speaker 2: good morning? Is it a good morning? I have a
Speaker 2: question for you because you've done something that I didn't
Speaker 2: think you do.
Speaker 1: What why when I sent that to you?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm going to say, Yes, go on. Okay.
Speaker 2: The other night, two nights ago, I got a screenshot
Speaker 2: from Brittany that she had purchased tickets for that LMCT.
Speaker 2: I think the company's meeting is called it's that Adrian
Speaker 2: guy who bought all them. Yes, he bought all of
Speaker 2: the blockhouses and he's currently doing his giveaway of all
Speaker 2: the blockhouses and you've got to buy the tickets to
Speaker 2: be in. He does a lot of those. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you've seen the sponsored adds on your Facebook or your
Speaker 2: TikTok or your Instagram. It's like, buy a ticket and
Speaker 2: you can win one hundred k a million dollars eight
Speaker 2: hundred k. We're given away this luxury car. We're given
Speaker 2: away this, by the way.
Speaker 1: The most clever. And I know it kind of gives
Speaker 1: off scam, but it's not. He would have to have
Speaker 1: it set up properly as a business in Australia and
Speaker 1: as a raffle business. I don't know the legalities of it,
Speaker 1: but it is so so clever. Yeah, his business model
Speaker 1: is so clever. Have you never seen this guy, Hannah?
Speaker 1: I have, But is this what Anna Paul's doing at
Speaker 1: the moment. No, how she does like giveaways, but she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm giving away all these cameras. No, that's just for
Speaker 1: people to purchase her skincare. Oh, she's putting that in
Speaker 1: her lm A Dingy from Maps. So it's very clever,
Speaker 1: like these these marketers, because all they do is well,
Speaker 1: he obviously does huge things now, but like Lma ding
Speaker 1: who's like from married at first Sight, she's started doing
Speaker 1: them as well. So she goes and buys like a
Speaker 1: Mazda three and raffles it off. So let's say a
Speaker 1: Mazda three is forty grand, So she's got to invest
Speaker 1: forty grand into buying the price, and then she's going
Speaker 1: to hope to sell more than forty grand worth of tickets.
Speaker 1: So that's how the whole thing works. It's literally just a.
Speaker 2: Raffle, and obviously it's worked for this aging.
Speaker 1: He now does massive giveaways. And the reason why it's
Speaker 1: such a clever business idea is because he has no
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't have to have any staff, he wouldn't
Speaker 1: have to have a warehouse, he wouldn't have to have
Speaker 1: retail stores. So he's just generating hundreds of millions of
Speaker 1: dollars when he's got no one to pay, and he's
Speaker 1: doing it obviously on a massive scale. I'm sure all
Speaker 1: of you saw he went and bought every single blockhouse
Speaker 1: in the auctions. He got to choose who won the
Speaker 1: auction because he was paying whatever he wanted to. So
Speaker 1: now's his raffle is he's giving away the blockhouses. So
Speaker 1: all the houses, or you can take eight million dollars cash.
Speaker 2: And what would you take? Would you take?
Speaker 1: Seen a lot of like back and forth about what
Speaker 1: people would choose to take. Because if you win, if
Speaker 1: you got the winning ticket, you get to pick eight
Speaker 1: million straight into your bank all the blockhouses, and the
Speaker 1: blockhouse is estimated to be worth a round fifteen million.
Speaker 1: But they're like in that random area in Victoria. Like
Speaker 1: I was talking with AJ about it because this was
Speaker 1: like I'm going to buy a raffle ticket.
Speaker 2: Fuck it.
Speaker 1: Well, he reckons you should pick the houses and just
Speaker 1: keep them for a year because it's like a little
Speaker 1: resort thing. You'd have to run it for a year
Speaker 1: and then sell it, That's what AJ reckons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or even because what are there six or eight
Speaker 2: houses in totally that so I would even like take
Speaker 2: the houses and then you know, in a year's time,
Speaker 2: potentially sell four of them to someone else and keep
Speaker 2: some and then the money, you know, I could do
Speaker 2: whatever I wanted with the money.
Speaker 1: You can rent them out. But you would have to
Speaker 1: be willing to run that thing.
Speaker 2: But you sent me a screenshot of you buying tickets
Speaker 2: in the bloody Lotto saying got to be in it
Speaker 2: to win it.
Speaker 1: You love playing the power ball.
Speaker 2: I love when the power balls one hundred million and
Speaker 2: whatever and things like that, And I do get sucked
Speaker 2: into those sorts of things because yeah, I'd hate to
Speaker 2: to not enter and my numbers come out, you know,
Speaker 2: on the on the one nard it's one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars or whatever. But I honestly was kind
Speaker 2: of just like what the blood, Like, I can't believe
Speaker 2: you've been sucked into the whole.
Speaker 1: It's so smart. I want to fucking start a business
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Do you want to say how many tickets you bought
Speaker 2: and how much it costs, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Yep, five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: See, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be doing it. I
Speaker 2: think if I bought it, i'd be doing the I
Speaker 2: don't know what the lowest are, but i'd be doing
Speaker 2: a lower tier.
Speaker 1: Well, I was just like, fuck it, I've got a
Speaker 1: thousand entries.
Speaker 2: Oh that's actually quite a lot for five hundred.
Speaker 1: But I need one ticket to win. So really you
Speaker 1: could just buy one ticket and like that could be
Speaker 1: the winning ticket. But now I got a thousand chances
Speaker 1: to win along with like the rest of Australia.
Speaker 2: You're kind of selling it to me whatever, like.
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna win. Would that that would be
Speaker 1: hilarious if I want you wouldn't be having to go
Speaker 1: at me then, would.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'd have to redo the will and put you on
Speaker 1: it to win them to get him when I die.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, I got sucked in by all
Speaker 1: the videos. I've never bought anything in his raffles before,
Speaker 1: but he does like massive giveaways all the time, and
Speaker 1: like someone genuinely wins and then they just like call
Speaker 1: him and you want He's given away millions of dollars,
Speaker 1: huge mansions. What a fucking genius and yeah he's like
Speaker 1: a billionaire now now lim A Ding's doing it speaking
Speaker 1: of money and not.
Speaker 2: You know, I love talking about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not five hundred dollars raffle ticket. Come on,
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to treat myself to raffle ticket.
Speaker 2: By the way.
Speaker 1: I can spend my money on whatever I want.
Speaker 2: It's funny to me, Like, it's just funny.
Speaker 1: I thought you would have loved it. That's why I
Speaker 1: sent it to you, because I know sometimes you're getting
Speaker 1: the mindset of you're gonna win the fucking power ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got manifest So I'm manifesting winning that fucking thing.
Speaker 1: Then I can do a whole social media campaign that
Speaker 1: I won and then I'll rapple them off.
Speaker 2: Yeah nice, all right, now, you're talking. So it's in
Speaker 2: the five hundred dollars. Is an investment? It is, yes, Okay.
Speaker 1: Anyway, speaking of money, I've also seen something circulating on
Speaker 1: the internet in the last week or so, Mecha's newest
Speaker 1: ad campaign. I'm sure a lot of you have seen it.
Speaker 1: Hannah's nodding her head like she's fucking seen it. I've
Speaker 1: seen it.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: I've seen a few different versions of it, because it's
Speaker 1: obviously a whole campaign. Now, I want to start off
Speaker 1: by saying I don't want to burn any bridges with Mecca.
Speaker 1: Not that I have any bridges in the first place,
Speaker 1: because they don't give me anything, but I love Mecca.
Speaker 1: There's actually a lot of discourse about Mecca these days,
Speaker 1: like I feel like people are getting more and more
Speaker 1: mad at Mecca about how they don't go on sale
Speaker 1: and this, that and the other. But anyway, they've got
Speaker 1: a new creative campaign that's out there across all their
Speaker 1: TikTok and Instagram ads and Facebook ads, and the whole
Speaker 1: thing of the campaign is a cost per ware. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm all for a cost per ware. Let's just say
Speaker 1: you buy a one thousand dollar hand bag and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a lot to spend on a handbag, but if
Speaker 1: you wear that thing one hundred times the cost per ware,
Speaker 1: it comes down like you've gotten your money's worth kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Like I'm all for making that kind of joke,
Speaker 1: Like I go, oh, yeah, I spend eight hundred dollars
Speaker 1: on this black handbag that I have, but I've warned
Speaker 1: a billion times, so the cost per wear is two
Speaker 1: dollars worth the investment. So Mecca's latest campaign, and I've
Speaker 1: seen in all the comments on the ads as well,
Speaker 1: people are not happy about it. They're doing a cost
Speaker 1: per ware for how much it costs when you do
Speaker 1: your makeup, and they're saying the whole thing it's fifty cents,
Speaker 1: but they're showing products that are like eighty dollars for foundation,
Speaker 1: fifty dollars for powder, but the cost per ware on
Speaker 1: each of those products totals fifty cents. So they're looking
Speaker 1: at makeup from a perspective of cost per ware, which
Speaker 1: I just think it just isn't hitting the way that
Speaker 1: they thought it was going to. Okay, it's not hitting
Speaker 1: the way they thought it was going to. And if
Speaker 1: I was them, like, I think it's a good idea,
Speaker 1: like the whole cost per wear thing, because yeah, like
Speaker 1: a bottle of foundation might be fifty dollars, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna use it how many times, which it works out
Speaker 1: to be what five cents of use or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But I think the way they've done it isn't in
Speaker 1: the best way. Like there's influences in these ads, and
Speaker 1: there's one and like the guys in it, bless him Brandon.
Speaker 1: I follow him on TikTok, like I love his fucking
Speaker 1: content and his videos, but it's like they're doing all
Speaker 1: maps on a board and working out like this scientific
Speaker 1: thing and all the comments are like, it's not that technical,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. It's just not being received well,
Speaker 1: like from what I can see, like on social media,
Speaker 1: and it also popped in popped up in my Reddit feed,
Speaker 1: like in the Australian makeup category or whatever, like people
Speaker 1: are not happy about this whatsoever. And if I was them,
Speaker 1: what I would have done is I would have made
Speaker 1: it more lighthearted because they're just fully serious with this campaign,
Speaker 1: like your full face cost fifty cents, when it's like
Speaker 1: it doesn't really because you're showing like a MECA foundation
Speaker 1: as Charlotte Tillbrey. This a Charlotte Tilbury that I would
Speaker 1: have tried to make this campaign if I was doing
Speaker 1: it more lighthearted and fun and dumb and a bit silly,
Speaker 1: and I would have incorporated like girl math, yeah, because
Speaker 1: you know how girl math is really funny and we
Speaker 1: love fucking girl math. Instead of like them making it
Speaker 1: serious like this whole face cost fifty cents, it should
Speaker 1: have been someone going like working out the girl math
Speaker 1: of their face, Like I think that would have been
Speaker 1: received better by the mecha community.
Speaker 2: But also just thinking about it in general, like it
Speaker 2: is kind of like a weird concept because I'm just
Speaker 2: thinking like Fate for example, like it it would be
Speaker 2: like you getting in your stories and being like, hey,
Speaker 2: everyone buy this black dress. It's only fifty cents per week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would never say that if.
Speaker 2: You wear it a hundred times, it's going to be
Speaker 2: fifty Yeah.
Speaker 1: And especially because they've done a full campaign about it,
Speaker 1: like influences in all these ads, they've done a full
Speaker 1: photo shoot that's like AI generated with and it's really cool,
Speaker 1: Like the video of Brandon, it's really fucking cool, Like
Speaker 1: it's looks like it's a so I don't know out
Speaker 1: of this world thing, but I just think they haven't
Speaker 1: executed it correctly, and it's just they've missed the mark
Speaker 1: with it, like they could have done a cost per
Speaker 1: war thing but made it more Girl Math theme. Like
Speaker 1: when we did our Black Friday sale for our Fate
Speaker 1: Society members, we did forty percent off for forty minutes only,
Speaker 1: like just in our Facebook group, and I did a
Speaker 1: funny post like that night, and I'm like, I posted
Speaker 1: like a funny photo of me and I wrote, this
Speaker 1: is my girl Math's sale. Forty percent off is almost
Speaker 1: fifty percent off, and fifty percent off is half price,
Speaker 1: and when something is half priced, that's basically free. And
Speaker 1: then like everyone chimed in the comments and like, plus,
Speaker 1: I'm using my husband's card, so I've actually made money
Speaker 1: on this sale, like they should have done it from
Speaker 1: that angle where it's just more like fun and ditzy.
Speaker 1: Because when I did that post in our Fates Societ,
Speaker 1: everyone was adding their girl Math to the equation as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I've just been seeing these ads circulating. I've
Speaker 1: been reading all the comments every time I see the ads,
Speaker 1: and people are not happy about it. And then people
Speaker 1: have been saying it's distasteful as well, just with like
Speaker 1: the cost of living and the fact that they've run
Speaker 1: these ads during Black Friday when every other brand is
Speaker 1: going on sale and doing thirty and forty percent off.
Speaker 1: Mecha doesn't do sales like that ever. I think they
Speaker 1: only do Boxing Day and it's not anymore. I used
Speaker 1: to work at Mecca and never they would do Boxing
Speaker 1: Day sales. Some products. It would be like nail polyph Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think they do something on Boxing Day, but
Speaker 1: it's only select products or whatever. So it's just like
Speaker 1: bad timing and a bad delivery of a creative campaign
Speaker 1: during a sale period when everyone's you know, struggling as
Speaker 1: it is, and especially with Mecca only becoming more and
Speaker 1: more expensive. I feel like they've really like someone's fucking
Speaker 1: dropped the ball, because I'm like, how did this get
Speaker 1: across the line, Hannah's got something to say? Sorry, really
Speaker 1: chiming in here because I used to work at Mecca
Speaker 1: and the whole Boxing Day thing, because they would be
Speaker 1: like everyone has to work Boxing Day. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: but we don't really do a sale and they're like, no,
Speaker 1: it's because everyone got gift cards on Christmas and they'll
Speaker 1: come in to use them while they're doing boxing day
Speaker 1: shopping everywhere else. But the thing with this campaign that
Speaker 1: I think, like I don't really care, but I think
Speaker 1: that is kind of distasteful to people is that so
Speaker 1: many of the influencers in it it's just like not relatable,
Speaker 1: Like they're aspirational creators. It's like, you have a crazy,
Speaker 1: beautiful life that I will never have, but you're not
Speaker 1: paying for cost per week. It's true, you're given all
Speaker 1: this ship and I find your makeup looks aspirational, but
Speaker 1: don't tell me about money because you're given all this
Speaker 1: hye yeah. And they're getting paid to make these videos
Speaker 1: to say this is only fifty cents like a face.
Speaker 1: When they got paid to make it by most relatable
Speaker 1: content rather than like aspirational content, I think it would
Speaker 1: work way better. I think they definitely could have executed
Speaker 1: it better. And I just looked at this like as
Speaker 1: soon as I saw I just from a brand point
Speaker 1: of view, I'm like, oh, they really fucked up here.
Speaker 1: So really interesting, like interesting for them to drop it
Speaker 1: in Black Friday time. It's like they're trying to tell
Speaker 1: people that it's cheap.
Speaker 2: Fair when I'm like, like, I think you have a
Speaker 2: fair point. It's just so crazy how your brain works
Speaker 2: compared to mind, because I feel like if I had
Speaker 2: seen that odd, I wouldn't have thought anything about that.
Speaker 2: I just would have swiped to the next video.
Speaker 1: I just saw it and they've got like fifty cent
Speaker 1: coins flying across the screen. It caught my attention. So
Speaker 1: they did a good job with the actual like creative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, Like the only thing that comes
Speaker 2: to mind is like saying, like emphasizing fifty cents, and
Speaker 2: then if you're actually to buy all the products, it's
Speaker 2: like five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Yes, But then they do it by like showing the
Speaker 1: foundation the person, Oh that was my drink bottle. They're
Speaker 1: showing the person applying the foundation. Then it's got like
Speaker 1: what foundation it is written there? And then cost per
Speaker 1: wear seven cents.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well they're literally.
Speaker 1: Showing all of these expensive products on the screen but
Speaker 1: putting the cost per wear. Yeah, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just weird. I think you can joke about a
Speaker 1: cost per wear in a brand way and make it
Speaker 1: really funny, like when I did with our Black Friday sale.
Speaker 1: I'm like footibcent offs basically half priced, which is basically
Speaker 1: fru like just joking, but they're like ful serious about this.
Speaker 1: I don't know, scrollers, let us know in the broadcast channel.
Speaker 1: Have you seen these ads and how does it sit
Speaker 1: with you? I'll ask it in our broadcush.
Speaker 2: Okay, good on you, great work, Please be upstanding for
Speaker 2: the Royal Flush. Time for our Royal Flush of the week.
Speaker 2: Best thing we've seen on the internet this week? Do
Speaker 2: you want to go first? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sure, I know it's a bit like last week now,
Speaker 1: but it's been circulating. I don't know if it's my
Speaker 1: Royal flush. But something I've seen since the TikTok Awards
Speaker 1: is the video that went out. I don't know what
Speaker 1: news place was it.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about ABC Australia. I don't know what
Speaker 2: one it was where they asked if influences work hard? Yeah,
Speaker 2: because we're going to talk about this for ages. So
Speaker 2: let me get mine out of the way first. O.
Speaker 2: Mine's not that big of O. But yes, I've got
Speaker 2: so much to say on that topic. I actually have
Speaker 2: an anti Royal flash of the week, very sad moment
Speaker 2: for US vander Pump rules fans. Now, I don't know
Speaker 2: how long this has actually been announced for This could
Speaker 2: have been announced a while ago. But I saw a
Speaker 2: video from Sheena from her podcast, and she starts the
Speaker 2: video saying something along the lines of, Oh, I'm sure
Speaker 2: you've all heard the news by now, but vander Pump
Speaker 2: Rules Season twelve that's coming next year will be an
Speaker 2: entirely new, fresh cast. Now. I hadn't heard this. I
Speaker 2: wasn't across this news. But she said it like it
Speaker 2: was like public knowledge and everybody already knew about it.
Speaker 2: This is the first time I'm hearing about it. But
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say to any of our scholars
Speaker 2: that are Vanda Punt Rules fans like I am. You know,
Speaker 2: I've spoken many times on the podcast about vander Punt Rules.
Speaker 2: I was very, very excited. I obviously didn't know where
Speaker 2: they were going to go with season twelve, given the
Speaker 2: Ariana and Tom and just the whole dynamic of the
Speaker 2: group was just a little bit off in season e lie,
Speaker 2: but we were trying to patch things back together and
Speaker 2: get back to some point of harmony. Right well season twelve,
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe we'll finally get there. We'll never know.
Speaker 2: They have fired literally every single cast member, and they're
Speaker 2: doing a Real Housewives of New York where all of
Speaker 2: the girls from Real Housewives of New York they went,
Speaker 2: we need to shake things up. You're all fired. New cast,
Speaker 2: come on in, And obviously that is absolutely flopping. I
Speaker 2: didn't mind season one, which is actually I think season
Speaker 2: I don't know, thirteen or fourteen, I can't remember, because
Speaker 2: they don't actually call it season one again. They just
Speaker 2: call it the next season's number, but with a new cast,
Speaker 2: and so it's the same show, new cast. And vander
Speaker 2: Punk Rules has come under the acts as well, and
Speaker 2: so this is my anti Royal flush of the week.
Speaker 2: I'm still in your line, Brittany, because I for one,
Speaker 2: am devastated. It's devastating that for eleven seasons, we've watched.
Speaker 1: These seasons in eleven years or do they come out
Speaker 1: with so it's been going for that long. I really
Speaker 1: need to watch it. I feel so ry whenever you
Speaker 1: talk about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so for eleven years, basically, I mean I haven't
Speaker 2: been watching that long. I only started watching I think
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. But for eleven years, people
Speaker 2: have followed the journey. But what they're doing is they're
Speaker 2: apparently going back to basics. And remember I've spoken on
Speaker 2: the podcast before for you as someone who doesn't watch
Speaker 2: the show, and for any scrollers who haven't watched. The
Speaker 2: show started as employees at SIR. It would be like
Speaker 2: if Brittany had a reality show and it's centered around
Speaker 2: all of her employees at Fate and it showed them
Speaker 2: working in the warehouse, but then it also followed them
Speaker 2: to the bar after work and their drama in their
Speaker 2: personal lives with their boyfriends and things like that. That's how
Speaker 2: the show originated. And then there was just so much
Speaker 2: drama and that you know, they all became mini celebrities
Speaker 2: and then bigger celebrities. So you know, time's changed and
Speaker 2: none of them ever worked at the restaurant anymore, but
Speaker 2: it's still followed all the drama and their relationships and
Speaker 2: everything like that in their life.
Speaker 1: Did it ever go back to the restaurant or not
Speaker 1: just become fully about their lives.
Speaker 2: Fully about their lives. And now season twelve will be
Speaker 2: a new cast of people who work SIR, and it
Speaker 2: will go back to basics of restaurant drama, seeing how
Speaker 2: they work in the workplace and then also following their lives.
Speaker 1: Actually, like not that I've seen the show at all,
Speaker 1: but I reckon they'll go back to basics. It'll start
Speaker 1: like that, and then I reckon we'll spiral again and
Speaker 1: go to what it was about the drama.
Speaker 2: For sure, and I'm sure they're hoping for that, but
Speaker 2: I just don't know how much you can infiltrate a
Speaker 2: fan base like this at such a pinnacle pivotal time.
Speaker 2: Season ten, the end of season ten, we had scandalval
Speaker 2: season eleven, we were recovering from that, trying to pick
Speaker 2: up the pieces, and we really that's when Tom and Ariana,
Speaker 2: two of the people from Vaner Punt Rules. Tom cheated
Speaker 2: on Ariana with another one of the cast members, and
Speaker 2: it all came out and blew up and became this
Speaker 2: crazy thing. There's a lot of law here that you're
Speaker 2: going to have to look.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to watch what scandalol mean?
Speaker 2: Well, his name is Tom Sandoval, so it's just like
Speaker 2: a name that the fan base came up scam. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's a scandal.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought even like scared.
Speaker 2: It's a scandal involving Tom Sandervolson, Okay, yeah, And I
Speaker 2: think it was like a hashtag trending on Twitter or something.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I just feel like we never really tied
Speaker 2: everything in a bow, and now they're just going, oh, well, next,
Speaker 2: And I just don't know whether you can piss off
Speaker 2: a fan base that much. Vanda Punt Rules. It's different
Speaker 2: to Real Housewives and stuff. I feel the fan base
Speaker 2: for Fana punp Rules is so much more intertwined. You know,
Speaker 2: With the Real Housewives, if relationships happen, drama happens, people
Speaker 2: have their two cents, but Vanda Pump Rules that parasocial relationship.
Speaker 2: I really find a lot of boundaries across and fans
Speaker 2: of the show. I don't know whether it's because Real
Speaker 2: Housewives are more unattainable and they're like in a different
Speaker 2: league because they've got so much money, or whatever it
Speaker 2: might be, but it's almost like you don't watch the
Speaker 2: Real Housewives and think they could be your friends, but
Speaker 2: the Vanda Punt Rules cast, they were just regular everyday people.
Speaker 2: So potentially people feel a bit more of a parasocial
Speaker 2: connection to them, or feel like because they've watched them
Speaker 2: for eleven years, they're a part of these people's lives,
Speaker 2: or whatever it may be. I'm not sure, but to
Speaker 2: rip the entire cast out and put in a new one.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's gonna work, and I would
Speaker 2: be very surprised if it's gonna work. But I for
Speaker 2: one will be watching. But I am not fucking happy
Speaker 2: about the decision.
Speaker 1: You're what you've spoken about Band of Pump rules that
Speaker 1: much that I'm just I'm gonna fucking start it. What
Speaker 1: do I watch it on?
Speaker 2: Hey? You?
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think I have that, but I'm fucking
Speaker 1: getting it to night. I need to watch it. I've
Speaker 1: watched little bits and bobs, like I don't know, when
Speaker 1: I've been at people's houses or like back in the day.
Speaker 1: I think I had it on my laptop at one point.
Speaker 1: But do I just need to start from season one?
Speaker 2: Yes? And I will say you have to start at
Speaker 2: season one to understand the everything, but you really have
Speaker 2: to let it. Like I would say, if you're in
Speaker 2: season three and you're still hating it, then give up.
Speaker 2: Because season one, as I've said before, it was a
Speaker 2: show that they thought they were making, and then there
Speaker 2: was so much drama they had to kind of change.
Speaker 2: Season two, they were still iron ironing out those kinks.
Speaker 2: Season three, they were like, right, no one cares about
Speaker 2: the restaurant. We care about the drama. And season three one.
Speaker 1: Sovan to Pump care that it's not about the restaurant anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Lisa Vanna Pump knows that. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're still centered around the restaurant, but for example, season one,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh my god, she called in sick for
Speaker 2: her shift, whereas season three, she's still they're still working
Speaker 2: in the restaurant, but it's not so much like oh
Speaker 2: you know, did you take the wrong order out to
Speaker 2: the wrong table. It's now like, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: can't believe I slept with him on the weekend and
Speaker 2: he's like working behind the bars. So it's like the
Speaker 2: restaurant's still very much incorporated through the whole thing, but
Speaker 2: instead of just like actual problems in the workplace, it's
Speaker 2: the problems in their life. So I would say season three,
Speaker 2: if if you get through season three or halfway through
Speaker 2: season three and you're like, nah, I can't do it,
Speaker 2: because don't forget. I think the original seasons came out
Speaker 2: like at least ten to eleven years ago. As we said,
Speaker 2: so TV is very different and it's not as it's
Speaker 2: not you know, it's like watching a show from the
Speaker 2: Alder Days.
Speaker 1: Yeah right. I went to one of the restaurants when
Speaker 1: I was in America.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so fucking jealous. Which one, sir? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so sexy, unique restaurant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like the food was just like so basic.
Speaker 2: Really, did you have the goats cheese balls?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's like the star of the show.
Speaker 1: It's just like going to any restaurant like in the
Speaker 1: Central Coast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: And the day Court is so outdated and ugly, like
Speaker 1: it's very American.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited to go one day. I'm very jealousy.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know about Friend of Pump Rules when
Speaker 2: I when I've been to America either.
Speaker 1: But my friend that I was with knew it, and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, and the day.
Speaker 2: Court yep, oh wow, yeah, there you go. Well, sorry
Speaker 2: for interjecting, but let's get back to your royal flush
Speaker 2: from the TikTok Awards, because there has been so much
Speaker 2: talk about this online.
Speaker 1: I know there's actually you know what. I don't like
Speaker 1: to delve into influencer drama, but there has been some
Speaker 1: drama from Sabi Ah.
Speaker 2: You haven't seen I no, I have, no, I have,
Speaker 2: but I didn't realize we were going to go there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you seen all this shit between Kate Foster,
Speaker 1: Sarbi brand, the Mummy influences, some other chicks crying. Abby
Speaker 1: Chatfield's timed.
Speaker 2: In, I thought you were going to say, talk about
Speaker 2: the TikTok Awards. There was so much like drama from
Speaker 2: that as well.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's all happened at the one time,
Speaker 1: like the video of everyone getting interviewed. So the question
Speaker 1: at the TikTok red carpet, which I know have done
Speaker 1: a whole.
Speaker 2: Episode, should we cover Sabi first?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm scared because you know what, I was gonna
Speaker 1: do a video like I was gonna jump on TikTok.
Speaker 2: Now that's why we said on the podcast because no
Speaker 2: one cares.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but like, so okay, we'll start with
Speaker 1: the Sarbi thing. Fuck the influencer thing. We can get
Speaker 1: back to that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So long story short. Kate Foster.
Speaker 1: Yes, So there's this clothing brand called Sarbi, which is
Speaker 1: owned by a couple and they're like relatively new. They
Speaker 1: only started the business like a year ago, and they
Speaker 1: make really colorful loud t shirts. I'm surprised you don't
Speaker 1: own one. I feel like that's something you would wear.
Speaker 1: They're targeted to all the mums, like the mums of
Speaker 1: TikTok love them, like the oversized, bright, colorful shirts. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Kate Foster, who is another interesting TikToker that has been
Speaker 1: like risen to popularity over the last year, who just
Speaker 1: like says whatever she's thinking and whatever she like. And
Speaker 1: don't quote me because I only see bits and bobs
Speaker 1: of this. I don't follow anyone, but it shows up
Speaker 1: in my for you page. She came out because she's
Speaker 1: she started off her TikTok. I don't know what she
Speaker 1: actually started doing, but then she started doing roasts of brands.
Speaker 1: That was her whole thing, was she would go on.
Speaker 1: She went on the Fate website and she just like
Speaker 1: ripped the brands to shreds, but in a comical, lighthearted
Speaker 1: kind of way, so then people thought it was funny,
Speaker 1: but really she was just picking these brands to bits.
Speaker 1: She did a video on Fate and I just commented
Speaker 1: and I was like, excuse me, like I stood up
Speaker 1: for myself, and she actually came back to me and
Speaker 1: was really nice because she just was saying, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know what she was fucking saying. It was
Speaker 1: ages ago. Anyway, she's come out and made a video
Speaker 1: and I don't don't quote me, and the video's gone,
Speaker 1: you can probably find it, but she said something about
Speaker 1: the owners of Sabi following Trump and Trump pro Trump accounts.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know what the video was because
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. I've only just seen like the
Speaker 1: aftermath of it. But essentially she was allegedly insinuating that,
Speaker 1: like people shouldn't support Sabi the brand because the owners
Speaker 1: follow Trump and Trump accounts. And then there was all
Speaker 1: this other stuff that came out and I don't know
Speaker 1: who it was. But then like, because all the mums
Speaker 1: of TikTok have been wearing Sabi in their videos because
Speaker 1: it's very easily recognizable, and there's some like creators who
Speaker 1: have been promoting anti vax not wearing sunscreen, like just
Speaker 1: all these like opinions that are strong and I guess
Speaker 1: against the status quo. I don't know if that's the
Speaker 1: right word to say. So that all this drama has
Speaker 1: just fucking started, and it's like, now all the mums
Speaker 1: of TikTok are coming out like boycott Sarbi blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I've just been watching this thing
Speaker 1: unfold and I'm like, this feels like high school. Have
Speaker 1: you seen it, Hannah? It feels like dead ass high school.
Speaker 1: Then Kate Foster's fucking crying and posted another TikTok, And
Speaker 1: then there's some other mum I don't know, Belle. I
Speaker 1: don't know her if that's her name. I've just been
Speaker 1: sitting back watching all this shit. Everyone's crying, everyone's boycotting
Speaker 1: this brand in the air saying don't support blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: It just created this whole thing on TikTok over these
Speaker 1: colorful fucking t shirts, and I've just been sitting back
Speaker 1: like what the fuck is actually going on in the
Speaker 1: House of Commons, Like it's reminding me of high school?
Speaker 1: Like she said this, and then she said that. Then
Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield's coming, and now everyone's going after Ima Chatfield.
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting back like do I see this shit
Speaker 1: just happen on the internet? And then every mom's jumping
Speaker 1: on in their sabi shirt like, oh have you seen
Speaker 1: these videos?
Speaker 2: I no, I honestly haven't seen any of them. I've
Speaker 2: seen some of Kate Foster's, but I'm one of those
Speaker 2: people who like, if I'm out of the loube, I'm
Speaker 2: not going back to figure it out. I know there
Speaker 2: are people like that, like if you see one video
Speaker 2: and you've missed it, You're like, oh, I've got to
Speaker 2: know every feet.
Speaker 1: I've been feeding me this like it's one video after
Speaker 1: the other, Like you know when your foro you page
Speaker 1: just the lines and you're seeing every part, and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, so, I haven't had any of that. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I've actually really struggled with trying to find things to
Speaker 2: talk about because the last week my for you page
Speaker 2: has been all Wicked themed things, which makes sense, but
Speaker 2: to the point where the other day I actually tested
Speaker 2: my for you page and apart from ads, there were
Speaker 2: sixty six videos in a row that had to do
Speaker 2: with Wicked or the Wizard of the Wicked. And so
Speaker 2: I was like, because obviously before usually on a Sunday night,
Speaker 2: I sit down and I go through my for you
Speaker 2: page and make sure I know what I'm going to
Speaker 2: talk about. On high scrollers, I was like scrolling, I
Speaker 2: was like, wow, there's a lot of wicked here, and
Speaker 2: then I went back right up to the first wicked
Speaker 2: video and then I was like, let me count them,
Speaker 2: and I kept going. Sixty six apart from ads in
Speaker 2: between were wicked videos in a row. I was like,
Speaker 2: so there's no time for savvy on my fucking four
Speaker 2: you page because it's all lines and targets. Page.
Speaker 1: Tried your pages being that, well, yeah, the big bed
Speaker 1: but anyway, that's so that's been all over my four
Speaker 1: you page as well as the TikTok Awards.
Speaker 2: Yes, the video okay, so the video has gone viral.
Speaker 2: From ABC Australia, they interviewed everyone on the carpet and
Speaker 2: said is being an influencer hard?
Speaker 1: They actually asked me, from zero to ten, how hard
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: And I did a whole spiel, but I got the
Speaker 1: one clip in the video, okay, and that's blown up.
Speaker 2: Let's play some of the video here. This is what
Speaker 2: some of the influencers said in the video.
Speaker 1: It is it is definitely hard being an influenier for
Speaker 1: a day. Do you know other people wake up and
Speaker 1: they worked ten hours straight on their feet. You're laying
Speaker 1: in bed, You post a little video and you're complaining.
Speaker 2: Get a different job.
Speaker 1: Honestly, if I can do it, anyone can do it.
Speaker 1: All the influencers out there lap it up. You are
Speaker 1: living the dream. I know it looks fun, but it's
Speaker 1: hard work. It's actually easy. It's not hard. Some days
Speaker 1: are really chill, and then other days we're working like
Speaker 1: the whole day. I don't take it that seriously. Get
Speaker 1: to go to a bushelf every now and then.
Speaker 2: It's not bad. You're giving your vulnerability up. There are
Speaker 2: so many other people doing so much more than we are.
Speaker 3: You have to think of content, you have to edit it,
Speaker 3: you have to film it, you have to you have
Speaker 3: to be constantly relevant, and that is not easy. It
Speaker 3: can be hard at time, sure, but when when I'm
Speaker 3: going to put it into perspective what so many people
Speaker 3: around the world are going through right now. Our job
Speaker 3: is not hard, and I'm not going to stand up
Speaker 3: here and say that it is.
Speaker 2: So. As you can hear their bit of a mixed bag.
Speaker 2: We've got some people saying no, it's not hard, some
Speaker 2: people saying yes, it is hard. I just want to say,
Speaker 2: I am so fucking glad they did not include my
Speaker 2: response in this video. Would you say, because oh, well,
Speaker 2: I said, I can't remember exactly what I said word
Speaker 2: for word. I said, I obviously know that in the
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, like it's not hard. There's nurses
Speaker 2: on their feet for eighteen plus hours a day, saving lives,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. But I said, but yeah, like
Speaker 2: I believe it is hard work, but I think it's
Speaker 2: all relative to what you do. And of course on
Speaker 2: a red carpet, there's no time to you know, give
Speaker 2: too much context. But I definitely said that, Like I
Speaker 2: was kind of like in the boat of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know it's easy, but like, also, it is hard
Speaker 2: work at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: But you definitely have hard days, like everyone has hard days.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what you do for a job. But
Speaker 1: then I think, because it's influences people then go and
Speaker 1: compare it to every other job out there, and that's
Speaker 1: what the whole discourse is right about.
Speaker 2: So like Veronica B for example, you would have heard
Speaker 2: just then in that video she says, I know it
Speaker 2: looks like fun, but it's hard work, and she's getting
Speaker 2: torn to shreds for because then they were like, what's
Speaker 2: hard about it? And then she's like, oh, you've got
Speaker 2: to think of content and stay content and stay relevant.
Speaker 2: And I think someone else in that video says, you know,
Speaker 2: some days it's easy, and some days you've got to
Speaker 2: work all day, and I know that you're on the surface,
Speaker 2: that just sounds fucking ridiculous. I get it, but I think, like,
Speaker 2: I really, I really have a problem with this, this conversation,
Speaker 2: because I think it's all very relative to like how
Speaker 2: much you do and the individual person, and like the
Speaker 2: problem is the word influencer and the the connotation that
Speaker 2: comes with the word influencer, because people hear the word
Speaker 2: influencer and they just think you just post a photo
Speaker 2: and get paid for it. And yes, if someone's life
Speaker 2: is poster a TikTok, get paid for it. And then
Speaker 2: you're off to the beach and you're off shopping and
Speaker 2: you're off to dinner. And but that's all you do
Speaker 2: all day. And if you're going, yeah, if you're going,
Speaker 2: it's really hard work. Of course, that's really out of touch,
Speaker 2: and I disagree with you. But my thing is, especially
Speaker 2: in Australia, it's also a lot different to influencers around
Speaker 2: the world. I think that a lot of us really
Speaker 2: are hustling and Ronica Bee. I will sit here and
Speaker 2: defend does work hard in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 2: because she doesn't just post a photo and then la
Speaker 2: la la, la la all day. She's created businesses, She's
Speaker 2: run businesses thanks to influencing. She's created networking events for influencers.
Speaker 2: She gets all these sponsors on board and hosts like
Speaker 2: nights for creators to get together and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: She does raffles and fundraisers and blah blah blah. She
Speaker 2: does motivational speaking. She's done, you know, all of these clubs.
Speaker 2: She flies herself around the word well to go and increase
Speaker 2: her profile, and she just recently flew to Dubai to
Speaker 2: go and collaborate with Dubai influences to boost her profile
Speaker 2: over there, etc. Like I do believe that's a and
Speaker 2: a hustler's mentality. And I also get that because like
Speaker 2: I kind of am in the same boat where I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm actually not going to let anyone tell me that
Speaker 2: I don't work hard, because I do believe that I
Speaker 2: do work hard and that this career that I've chosen
Speaker 2: is hard work. It's so fucking rewarding, And I understand
Speaker 2: my privilege. Okay, that I can work for myself. I
Speaker 2: can wake up when I want, I can say yes
Speaker 2: and no to certain things and do what I want
Speaker 2: and run my own business that way. I understand that
Speaker 2: it's so so rewarding, but like, let's take the live
Speaker 2: show for example, if you actually do the maths which
Speaker 2: I did on to prove to people or to the
Speaker 2: people in my life, I guess not that I needed to,
Speaker 2: but it was just a conversation we were having and
Speaker 2: I did the math. If I wanted to make money,
Speaker 2: there's I shouldn't have gone done a tour this year.
Speaker 2: I should have gone and worked at McDonald's because I
Speaker 2: would have made more money at McDonald's than doing the
Speaker 2: tour that I did. After all, the people get paid
Speaker 2: and all the costumes get made and everything comes out
Speaker 2: in the wash, and the hours that go into that,
Speaker 2: I am genuinely making like four dollars an hour, do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? On that tour, And yes,
Speaker 2: it's rewarding.
Speaker 1: I think it's because like when people hear influencer, the
Speaker 1: here is it hard to be an influencer, Like they
Speaker 1: just picture your stereotypical influencer where they're fucking going out
Speaker 1: for coffee, going to here and there, then doing a
Speaker 1: little sponsored photo, like because that's what that's the box
Speaker 1: that influencers get put into.
Speaker 2: I know, but I feel I get put in that box,
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. So people look at me and
Speaker 2: they don't straight away think anything else but like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's an influencer, or like I get put in that.
Speaker 2: You know, when you talk about the TikTok Awards, you go,
Speaker 2: it's a bunch of influencers. But you're there, Britney. You
Speaker 2: don't classify yourself as an influencer. I'm there. I would
Speaker 2: like to be known as even just content creators better
Speaker 2: or comedian. But people don't say that. They just go,
Speaker 2: it's a bunch of influence. So I think it's all
Speaker 2: relative to and there's like a lot a lot of
Speaker 2: nuance and a lot of context was missed there because
Speaker 2: Ronica be being like, yeah, it is hard work. Actually
Speaker 2: I believe she does work hard. I believe I work hard.
Speaker 2: And if you're just posting a photo whatever, that's a
Speaker 2: different conversation. The other point I want to make, sorry, well,
Speaker 2: this is a bit of Matt's rants is people always go, oh,
Speaker 2: you know. If they think that's hard work, try being
Speaker 2: a nurse. Try being a teacher. Sorry, this might get
Speaker 2: me canceled, but I reckon I would be the best
Speaker 2: fucking nurse ever, and I reckon I'd be the best
Speaker 2: fucking teacher ever. And the thing is, when you really
Speaker 2: think about careers in general, there are going to be
Speaker 2: people in that career, even being a nurse. There are
Speaker 2: a lot of hard working nurses out there. There are
Speaker 2: going to be nurses who don't work hard. There are
Speaker 2: teachers who work really hard. Think about high school. There
Speaker 2: were teachers that worked hard, and there were teachers that,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, didn't work hard at all. When I've
Speaker 2: been to the hospital for my things, I can see
Speaker 2: the hard working nurses, and I can see the ones
Speaker 2: who don't want to be there and aren't working hard.
Speaker 2: You go to McDonald's, there's a hard worker. Do in
Speaker 2: all the jobs. There's someone who couldn't give a shit.
Speaker 2: You go do your groceries, there are hard workers. There
Speaker 2: are people who aren't working hard, not lifting a finger.
Speaker 2: That happens in every industry, and in the influencer industry
Speaker 2: it happens as well. There are some of us working
Speaker 2: hard and there are some of us not working hard.
Speaker 2: But the problem is everyone hears the word influencer and
Speaker 2: thinks no one works hard. And I'm like, girl, not
Speaker 2: to be Mikayla and say Chrybana influencer for a year.
Speaker 2: But I truly believe if you actually lived in the
Speaker 2: you know, if someone tried to do what I did,
Speaker 2: I believe in this year, even last year, I genuinely
Speaker 2: would be like, it would open your eyes to be like, whoa, Actually,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of fucking work going on here, do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So I'm not gonna let
Speaker 2: anyone tell me that I don't work hard, because I
Speaker 2: believe that I fucking do, And you know what, the
Speaker 2: people in my life who are close to me know
Speaker 2: that I do, and that's all that matters to me.
Speaker 2: But that video pissed me the fuck off.
Speaker 1: I wish they use more of mind because I said, I
Speaker 1: used to be an influencer and now I'm not. And
Speaker 1: I just said I wish like influencers would know that
Speaker 1: they're living the fucking dream because I used to do
Speaker 1: that for a job, and like, you're living the dream
Speaker 1: and you don't even realize you live in a dream
Speaker 1: like that was my spiel but only got one little
Speaker 1: sentence in it.
Speaker 2: And for sure, I'm living the dream. I'm having the
Speaker 2: best time, and you lived the dream as well. And yes,
Speaker 2: in comparison to running fate, you're obviously working a lot
Speaker 2: harder than you were then, but you still worked hard
Speaker 2: when you were an influencer, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I could have worked way harder. Reflecting at the time,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is so much. The managers
Speaker 1: are so annoying, brands are annoying me, Everyone's asking me
Speaker 1: to reshoot shit. And at that time I was working
Speaker 1: hard for my working hard for them, but like being
Speaker 1: on the other side, it's open my fucking eyes. Ok
Speaker 1: And I'm like, if I could be back in that
Speaker 1: position for like one more day I or like one
Speaker 1: more year, like I'd fucking lap that shit up only
Speaker 1: because I'm on the other side of the fence now.
Speaker 2: Okay, see, but I still feel it's relevant.
Speaker 1: Back then, Yeah, I was working hard if you were like.
Speaker 2: Whatever, whereas I'm like, I'm making this into.
Speaker 1: I was also very young back then. I was like
Speaker 1: twenty two.
Speaker 2: True. Anyway, that was a bit of a combo of
Speaker 2: Royal Flush and Matt's rants. But glad I got that
Speaker 2: off my chest. And similar to you saying you were
Speaker 2: going to jump into the savvy thing, I wanted to
Speaker 2: jump in and share my thoughts, but I was just like,
Speaker 2: you know what the problem is here at high scrollers.
Speaker 2: We have our scrollers who know us and know the
Speaker 2: context and know the new ones.
Speaker 1: If you jump on TikTok, it could go to.
Speaker 2: Anything exactly and they just wouldn't get it, And then
Speaker 2: I'm getting canceled, you know what I mean? Which you
Speaker 2: know what at this point do it? I need a
Speaker 2: bit of a thrill in life. Anyway, we should probably
Speaker 2: wrap this up before I say anything else that's really
Speaker 2: going to get me canceled. Thanks for listening, Scrollers, love ya,
Speaker 2: see you soon. Have a great week. You'll know what
Speaker 2: to do already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, raiders do all the things.
Speaker 2: Anyway, d'yla better let you go. I've got I have
Speaker 2: a really fucking hard day at work.