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Speaker 1: I'm Britney Saunders and I'm all right hey.

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Speaker 2: And this is High Scrollers, the podcast version of your

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Speaker 1: If it's trending, going viral, or has your gripped, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about it.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on this episode. Britney's purchased something this week

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Speaker 2: that has me in a bit of a tizzy. Stick

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Speaker 2: around to find out what she's bought, because it actually

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Speaker 2: shocked me.

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Speaker 1: Plus Mecha of All Businesses and Brands has launched a

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Speaker 1: campaign that has absolutely flopped in my opinion, and it

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Speaker 1: hasn't landed the way they thought it would. So I'm

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Speaker 1: here to give some insights into a cost per weear

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Speaker 1: campaign that they've done.

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Speaker 2: And I've got sad news for Vanda punt Rules fans.

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Speaker 2: I for one, am absolutely devastated, and I'm giving you

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Speaker 2: an anti royal flush this week.

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Speaker 1: And we're chiming in on the Cape Foster and Savvy Drama.

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Speaker 2: Plus influencers were asked at the TikTok aboards. Is influencing

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Speaker 2: really hard work? And we have some opinions to add

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Speaker 2: to the viral video that is making headlines around the world.

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Speaker 2: Stick around all that more coming up in this episode

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Speaker 2: of High Scrollers. Deal me in, Dull.

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Speaker 1: Let's go good morning, Hang, I've got popcorny on mountain.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, I'll say now, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning? Is it a good morning? I have a

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Speaker 2: question for you because you've done something that I didn't

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Speaker 2: think you do.

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Speaker 1: What why when I sent that to you?

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm going to say, Yes, go on. Okay.

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Speaker 2: The other night, two nights ago, I got a screenshot

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Speaker 2: from Brittany that she had purchased tickets for that LMCT.

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Speaker 2: I think the company's meeting is called it's that Adrian

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Speaker 2: guy who bought all them. Yes, he bought all of

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Speaker 2: the blockhouses and he's currently doing his giveaway of all

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Speaker 2: the blockhouses and you've got to buy the tickets to

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Speaker 2: be in. He does a lot of those. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you've seen the sponsored adds on your Facebook or your

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Speaker 2: TikTok or your Instagram. It's like, buy a ticket and

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Speaker 2: you can win one hundred k a million dollars eight

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Speaker 2: hundred k. We're given away this luxury car. We're given

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Speaker 2: away this, by the way.

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Speaker 1: The most clever. And I know it kind of gives

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Speaker 1: off scam, but it's not. He would have to have

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Speaker 1: it set up properly as a business in Australia and

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Speaker 1: as a raffle business. I don't know the legalities of it,

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Speaker 1: but it is so so clever. Yeah, his business model

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Speaker 1: is so clever. Have you never seen this guy, Hannah?

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Speaker 1: I have, But is this what Anna Paul's doing at

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Speaker 1: the moment. No, how she does like giveaways, but she's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm giving away all these cameras. No, that's just for

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Speaker 1: people to purchase her skincare. Oh, she's putting that in

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Speaker 1: her lm A Dingy from Maps. So it's very clever,

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Speaker 1: like these these marketers, because all they do is well,

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Speaker 1: he obviously does huge things now, but like Lma ding

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Speaker 1: who's like from married at first Sight, she's started doing

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Speaker 1: Mazda three and raffles it off. So let's say a

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Speaker 1: So that's how the whole thing works. It's literally just a.

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Speaker 2: Raffle, and obviously it's worked for this aging.

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Speaker 1: He now does massive giveaways. And the reason why it's

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Speaker 1: like you wouldn't have to have any staff, he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: retail stores. So he's just generating hundreds of millions of

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Speaker 1: doing it obviously on a massive scale. I'm sure all

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Speaker 1: of you saw he went and bought every single blockhouse

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Speaker 1: now's his raffle is he's giving away the blockhouses. So

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Speaker 1: all the houses, or you can take eight million dollars cash.

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Speaker 2: And what would you take? Would you take?

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Speaker 1: Seen a lot of like back and forth about what

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Speaker 1: million straight into your bank all the blockhouses, and the

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Speaker 1: But they're like in that random area in Victoria. Like

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Speaker 1: I was talking with AJ about it because this was

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Speaker 2: Fuck it.

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Speaker 1: Well, he reckons you should pick the houses and just

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Speaker 1: keep them for a year because it's like a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or even because what are there six or eight

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Speaker 2: potentially sell four of them to someone else and keep

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Speaker 1: You can rent them out. But you would have to

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Speaker 1: be willing to run that thing.

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Speaker 2: But you sent me a screenshot of you buying tickets

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Speaker 2: in the bloody Lotto saying got to be in it

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Speaker 2: to win it.

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Speaker 1: You love playing the power ball.

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Speaker 2: I love when the power balls one hundred million and

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Speaker 2: whatever and things like that, And I do get sucked

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Speaker 2: into those sorts of things because yeah, I'd hate to

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Speaker 2: on the on the one nard it's one hundred and

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Speaker 2: of just like what the blood, Like, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: you've been sucked into the whole.

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Speaker 1: It's so smart. I want to fucking start a business

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Speaker 2: Do you want to say how many tickets you bought

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Speaker 1: Yep, five hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: See, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be doing it. I

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Speaker 2: think if I bought it, i'd be doing the I

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Speaker 2: don't know what the lowest are, but i'd be doing

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Speaker 1: Well, I was just like, fuck it, I've got a

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Speaker 1: thousand entries.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's actually quite a lot for five hundred.

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Speaker 1: But I need one ticket to win. So really you

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Speaker 1: could just buy one ticket and like that could be

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Speaker 2: You're kind of selling it to me whatever, like.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna win. Would that that would be

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Speaker 1: hilarious if I want you wouldn't be having to go

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Speaker 1: I'd have to redo the will and put you on

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Speaker 1: it to win them to get him when I die.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, I got sucked in by all

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Speaker 1: the videos. I've never bought anything in his raffles before,

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Speaker 1: but he does like massive giveaways all the time, and

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Speaker 1: like someone genuinely wins and then they just like call

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Speaker 1: him and you want He's given away millions of dollars,

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Speaker 1: huge mansions. What a fucking genius and yeah he's like

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Speaker 2: You know, I love talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and not five hundred dollars raffle ticket. Come on,

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Speaker 1: I'm allowed to treat myself to raffle ticket.

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Speaker 1: I can spend my money on whatever I want.

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Speaker 2: It's funny to me, Like, it's just funny.

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Speaker 1: I thought you would have loved it. That's why I

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Speaker 1: sent it to you, because I know sometimes you're getting

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Speaker 1: the mindset of you're gonna win the fucking power ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got manifest So I'm manifesting winning that fucking thing.

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Speaker 1: Then I can do a whole social media campaign that

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Speaker 1: I won and then I'll rapple them off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah nice, all right, now, you're talking. So it's in

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Speaker 2: the five hundred dollars. Is an investment? It is, yes, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, speaking of money, I've also seen something circulating on

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Speaker 1: the internet in the last week or so, Mecha's newest

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Speaker 1: ad campaign. I'm sure a lot of you have seen it.

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Speaker 1: Hannah's nodding her head like she's fucking seen it. I've

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a few different versions of it, because it's

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Speaker 1: obviously a whole campaign. Now, I want to start off

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Speaker 1: by saying I don't want to burn any bridges with Mecca.

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Speaker 1: Not that I have any bridges in the first place,

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Speaker 1: because they don't give me anything, but I love Mecca.

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Speaker 1: There's actually a lot of discourse about Mecca these days,

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Speaker 1: like I feel like people are getting more and more

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Speaker 1: a new creative campaign that's out there across all their

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Speaker 1: thing of the campaign is a cost per ware. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm all for a cost per ware. Let's just say

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Speaker 1: Like I go, oh, yeah, I spend eight hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: people are not happy about it. They're doing a cost

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Speaker 1: your makeup, and they're saying the whole thing it's fifty cents,

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Speaker 1: I just think it just isn't hitting the way that

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Speaker 1: like the whole cost per wear thing, because yeah, like

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Speaker 1: a bottle of foundation might be fifty dollars, but you're

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Speaker 1: gonna use it how many times, which it works out

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Speaker 1: to be what five cents of use or whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: But I think the way they've done it isn't in

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Speaker 1: the best way. Like there's influences in these ads, and

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Speaker 1: there's one and like the guys in it, bless him Brandon.

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Speaker 1: I follow him on TikTok, like I love his fucking

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Speaker 1: content and his videos, but it's like they're doing all

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Speaker 1: thing and all the comments are like, it's not that technical,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know. It's just not being received well,

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Speaker 1: like from what I can see, like on social media,

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Speaker 1: and it also popped in popped up in my Reddit feed,

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Speaker 1: like in the Australian makeup category or whatever, like people

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Speaker 2: Best thing we've seen on the internet this week? Do

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Speaker 1: Did it ever go back to the restaurant or not

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Speaker 2: Fully about their lives. And now season twelve will be

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Speaker 2: For sure, and I'm sure they're hoping for that, but

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to watch what scandalol mean?

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Speaker 2: Well, his name is Tom Sandoval, so it's just like

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Speaker 2: because it's a scandal.

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought even like scared.

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Speaker 2: It's a scandal involving Tom Sandervolson, Okay, yeah, And I

436
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 2: think it was like a hashtag trending on Twitter or something.

437
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 2: So anyway, I just feel like we never really tied

438
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Speaker 2: everything in a bow, and now they're just going, oh, well, next,

439
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 2: And I just don't know whether you can piss off

440
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,360
Speaker 2: a fan base that much. Vanda Punt Rules. It's different

441
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Speaker 2: to Real Housewives and stuff. I feel the fan base

442
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 2: for Fana punp Rules is so much more intertwined. You know,

443
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Speaker 2: With the Real Housewives, if relationships happen, drama happens, people

444
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Speaker 2: have their two cents, but Vanda Pump Rules that parasocial relationship.

445
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Speaker 2: I really find a lot of boundaries across and fans

446
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Speaker 2: of the show. I don't know whether it's because Real

447
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 2: Housewives are more unattainable and they're like in a different

448
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 2: league because they've got so much money, or whatever it

449
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 2: might be, but it's almost like you don't watch the

450
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Speaker 2: Real Housewives and think they could be your friends, but

451
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 2: the Vanda Punt Rules cast, they were just regular everyday people.

452
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Speaker 2: So potentially people feel a bit more of a parasocial

453
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Speaker 2: connection to them, or feel like because they've watched them

454
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Speaker 2: for eleven years, they're a part of these people's lives,

455
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 2: or whatever it may be. I'm not sure, but to

456
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 2: rip the entire cast out and put in a new one.

457
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's gonna work, and I would

458
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Speaker 2: be very surprised if it's gonna work. But I for

459
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Speaker 2: one will be watching. But I am not fucking happy

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Speaker 2: about the decision.

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Speaker 1: You're what you've spoken about Band of Pump rules that

462
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Speaker 1: much that I'm just I'm gonna fucking start it. What

463
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Speaker 1: do I watch it on?

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Speaker 2: Hey? You?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think I have that, but I'm fucking

466
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: getting it to night. I need to watch it. I've

467
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Speaker 1: watched little bits and bobs, like I don't know, when

468
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: I've been at people's houses or like back in the day.

469
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Speaker 1: I think I had it on my laptop at one point.

470
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Speaker 1: But do I just need to start from season one?

471
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Speaker 2: Yes? And I will say you have to start at

472
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Speaker 2: season one to understand the everything, but you really have

473
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Speaker 2: to let it. Like I would say, if you're in

474
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Speaker 2: season three and you're still hating it, then give up.

475
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: Because season one, as I've said before, it was a

476
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: show that they thought they were making, and then there

477
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: was so much drama they had to kind of change.

478
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 2: Season two, they were still iron ironing out those kinks.

479
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: Season three, they were like, right, no one cares about

480
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Speaker 2: the restaurant. We care about the drama. And season three one.

481
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Speaker 1: Sovan to Pump care that it's not about the restaurant anymore.

482
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Lisa Vanna Pump knows that. I mean,

483
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Speaker 2: they're still centered around the restaurant, but for example, season one,

484
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Speaker 2: it's like, oh my god, she called in sick for

485
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Speaker 2: her shift, whereas season three, she's still they're still working

486
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Speaker 2: in the restaurant, but it's not so much like oh

487
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Speaker 2: you know, did you take the wrong order out to

488
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Speaker 2: the wrong table. It's now like, oh my god, I

489
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Speaker 2: can't believe I slept with him on the weekend and

490
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: he's like working behind the bars. So it's like the

491
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Speaker 2: restaurant's still very much incorporated through the whole thing, but

492
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Speaker 2: instead of just like actual problems in the workplace, it's

493
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Speaker 2: the problems in their life. So I would say season three,

494
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Speaker 2: if if you get through season three or halfway through

495
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Speaker 2: season three and you're like, nah, I can't do it,

496
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Speaker 2: because don't forget. I think the original seasons came out

497
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Speaker 2: like at least ten to eleven years ago. As we said,

498
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Speaker 2: so TV is very different and it's not as it's

499
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: not you know, it's like watching a show from the

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Speaker 2: Alder Days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right. I went to one of the restaurants when

502
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Speaker 1: I was in America.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so fucking jealous. Which one, sir? Yeah, yeah,

504
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: so sexy, unique restaurant.

505
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like the food was just like so basic.

506
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Speaker 2: Really, did you have the goats cheese balls?

507
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Speaker 1: Yes?

508
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's like the star of the show.

509
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: It's just like going to any restaurant like in the

510
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Speaker 1: Central Coast.

511
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

512
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Speaker 1: And the day Court is so outdated and ugly, like

513
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Speaker 1: it's very American.

514
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Speaker 2: I'm very excited to go one day. I'm very jealousy.

515
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Speaker 2: But I didn't know about Friend of Pump Rules when

516
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Speaker 2: I when I've been to America either.

517
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Speaker 1: But my friend that I was with knew it, and

518
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, and the day.

519
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 2: Court yep, oh wow, yeah, there you go. Well, sorry

520
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: for interjecting, but let's get back to your royal flush

521
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Speaker 2: from the TikTok Awards, because there has been so much

522
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Speaker 2: talk about this online.

523
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: I know there's actually you know what. I don't like

524
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Speaker 1: to delve into influencer drama, but there has been some

525
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Speaker 1: drama from Sabi Ah.

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Speaker 2: You haven't seen I no, I have, no, I have,

527
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Speaker 2: but I didn't realize we were going to go there.

528
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you seen all this shit between Kate Foster,

529
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: Sarbi brand, the Mummy influences, some other chicks crying. Abby

530
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: Chatfield's timed.

531
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Speaker 2: In, I thought you were going to say, talk about

532
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Speaker 2: the TikTok Awards. There was so much like drama from

533
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Speaker 2: that as well.

534
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's all happened at the one time,

535
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Speaker 1: like the video of everyone getting interviewed. So the question

536
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Speaker 1: at the TikTok red carpet, which I know have done

537
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Speaker 1: a whole.

538
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Speaker 2: Episode, should we cover Sabi first?

539
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm scared because you know what, I was gonna

540
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: do a video like I was gonna jump on TikTok.

541
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Speaker 2: Now that's why we said on the podcast because no

542
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Speaker 2: one cares.

543
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but like, so okay, we'll start with

544
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: the Sarbi thing. Fuck the influencer thing. We can get

545
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Speaker 1: back to that.

546
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Speaker 2: Okay, So long story short. Kate Foster.

547
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Speaker 1: Yes, So there's this clothing brand called Sarbi, which is

548
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 1: owned by a couple and they're like relatively new. They

549
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: only started the business like a year ago, and they

550
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: make really colorful loud t shirts. I'm surprised you don't

551
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: own one. I feel like that's something you would wear.

552
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: They're targeted to all the mums, like the mums of

553
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: TikTok love them, like the oversized, bright, colorful shirts. Anyway.

554
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: Kate Foster, who is another interesting TikToker that has been

555
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: like risen to popularity over the last year, who just

556
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: like says whatever she's thinking and whatever she like. And

557
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: don't quote me because I only see bits and bobs

558
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: of this. I don't follow anyone, but it shows up

559
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: in my for you page. She came out because she's

560
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: she started off her TikTok. I don't know what she

561
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: actually started doing, but then she started doing roasts of brands.

562
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: That was her whole thing, was she would go on.

563
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: She went on the Fate website and she just like

564
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: ripped the brands to shreds, but in a comical, lighthearted

565
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: kind of way, so then people thought it was funny,

566
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: but really she was just picking these brands to bits.

567
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: She did a video on Fate and I just commented

568
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: and I was like, excuse me, like I stood up

569
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: for myself, and she actually came back to me and

570
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: was really nice because she just was saying, like, oh,

571
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Speaker 1: I don't know what she was fucking saying. It was

572
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: ages ago. Anyway, she's come out and made a video

573
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: and I don't don't quote me, and the video's gone,

574
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: you can probably find it, but she said something about

575
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: the owners of Sabi following Trump and Trump pro Trump accounts.

576
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: M hm.

577
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: And so I don't know what the video was because

578
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. I've only just seen like the

579
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: aftermath of it. But essentially she was allegedly insinuating that,

580
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: like people shouldn't support Sabi the brand because the owners

581
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: follow Trump and Trump accounts. And then there was all

582
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: this other stuff that came out and I don't know

583
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: who it was. But then like, because all the mums

584
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: of TikTok have been wearing Sabi in their videos because

585
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: it's very easily recognizable, and there's some like creators who

586
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: have been promoting anti vax not wearing sunscreen, like just

587
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: all these like opinions that are strong and I guess

588
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: against the status quo. I don't know if that's the

589
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: right word to say. So that all this drama has

590
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: just fucking started, and it's like, now all the mums

591
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: of TikTok are coming out like boycott Sarbi blah blah

592
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I've just been watching this thing

593
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: unfold and I'm like, this feels like high school. Have

594
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: you seen it, Hannah? It feels like dead ass high school.

595
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: Then Kate Foster's fucking crying and posted another TikTok, And

596
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: then there's some other mum I don't know, Belle. I

597
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: don't know her if that's her name. I've just been

598
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: sitting back watching all this shit. Everyone's crying, everyone's boycotting

599
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: this brand in the air saying don't support blah blah blah.

600
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: It just created this whole thing on TikTok over these

601
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: colorful fucking t shirts, and I've just been sitting back

602
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: like what the fuck is actually going on in the

603
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: House of Commons, Like it's reminding me of high school?

604
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: Like she said this, and then she said that. Then

605
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield's coming, and now everyone's going after Ima Chatfield.

606
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting back like do I see this shit

607
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: just happen on the internet? And then every mom's jumping

608
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: on in their sabi shirt like, oh have you seen

609
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: these videos?

610
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: I no, I honestly haven't seen any of them. I've

611
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: seen some of Kate Foster's, but I'm one of those

612
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: people who like, if I'm out of the loube, I'm

613
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 2: not going back to figure it out. I know there

614
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: are people like that, like if you see one video

615
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: and you've missed it, You're like, oh, I've got to

616
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: know every feet.

617
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: I've been feeding me this like it's one video after

618
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: the other, Like you know when your foro you page

619
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: just the lines and you're seeing every part, and.

620
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, so, I haven't had any of that. Unfortunately,

621
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: I've actually really struggled with trying to find things to

622
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: talk about because the last week my for you page

623
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: has been all Wicked themed things, which makes sense, but

624
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: to the point where the other day I actually tested

625
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: my for you page and apart from ads, there were

626
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: sixty six videos in a row that had to do

627
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: with Wicked or the Wizard of the Wicked. And so

628
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: I was like, because obviously before usually on a Sunday night,

629
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: I sit down and I go through my for you

630
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: page and make sure I know what I'm going to

631
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: talk about. On high scrollers, I was like scrolling, I

632
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: was like, wow, there's a lot of wicked here, and

633
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: then I went back right up to the first wicked

634
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: video and then I was like, let me count them,

635
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: and I kept going. Sixty six apart from ads in

636
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: between were wicked videos in a row. I was like,

637
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: so there's no time for savvy on my fucking four

638
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: you page because it's all lines and targets. Page.

639
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: Tried your pages being that, well, yeah, the big bed

640
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: but anyway, that's so that's been all over my four

641
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: you page as well as the TikTok Awards.

642
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: Yes, the video okay, so the video has gone viral.

643
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: From ABC Australia, they interviewed everyone on the carpet and

644
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: said is being an influencer hard?

645
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: They actually asked me, from zero to ten, how hard

646
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: is it?

647
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: Oh?

648
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: And I did a whole spiel, but I got the

649
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: one clip in the video, okay, and that's blown up.

650
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: Let's play some of the video here. This is what

651
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: some of the influencers said in the video.

652
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: It is it is definitely hard being an influenier for

653
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: a day. Do you know other people wake up and

654
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: they worked ten hours straight on their feet. You're laying

655
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: in bed, You post a little video and you're complaining.

656
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: Get a different job.

657
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: Honestly, if I can do it, anyone can do it.

658
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: All the influencers out there lap it up. You are

659
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: living the dream. I know it looks fun, but it's

660
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: hard work. It's actually easy. It's not hard. Some days

661
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: are really chill, and then other days we're working like

662
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: the whole day. I don't take it that seriously. Get

663
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: to go to a bushelf every now and then.

664
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: It's not bad. You're giving your vulnerability up. There are

665
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: so many other people doing so much more than we are.

666
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: You have to think of content, you have to edit it,

667
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: you have to film it, you have to you have

668
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: to be constantly relevant, and that is not easy. It

669
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: can be hard at time, sure, but when when I'm

670
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: going to put it into perspective what so many people

671
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: around the world are going through right now. Our job

672
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: is not hard, and I'm not going to stand up

673
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: here and say that it is.

674
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Speaker 2: So. As you can hear their bit of a mixed bag.

675
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: We've got some people saying no, it's not hard, some

676
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: people saying yes, it is hard. I just want to say,

677
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: I am so fucking glad they did not include my

678
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: response in this video. Would you say, because oh, well,

679
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: I said, I can't remember exactly what I said word

680
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: for word. I said, I obviously know that in the

681
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, like it's not hard. There's nurses

682
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: on their feet for eighteen plus hours a day, saving lives,

683
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. But I said, but yeah, like

684
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: I believe it is hard work, but I think it's

685
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: all relative to what you do. And of course on

686
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: a red carpet, there's no time to you know, give

687
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: too much context. But I definitely said that, Like I

688
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: was kind of like in the boat of like, yeah,

689
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: I know it's easy, but like, also, it is hard

690
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: work at the end of the day.

691
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: But you definitely have hard days, like everyone has hard days.

692
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what you do for a job. But

693
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: then I think, because it's influences people then go and

694
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: compare it to every other job out there, and that's

695
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: what the whole discourse is right about.

696
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: So like Veronica B for example, you would have heard

697
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: just then in that video she says, I know it

698
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: looks like fun, but it's hard work, and she's getting

699
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: torn to shreds for because then they were like, what's

700
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: hard about it? And then she's like, oh, you've got

701
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: to think of content and stay content and stay relevant.

702
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: And I think someone else in that video says, you know,

703
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: some days it's easy, and some days you've got to

704
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: work all day, and I know that you're on the surface,

705
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: that just sounds fucking ridiculous. I get it, but I think, like,

706
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: I really, I really have a problem with this, this conversation,

707
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: because I think it's all very relative to like how

708
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: much you do and the individual person, and like the

709
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: problem is the word influencer and the the connotation that

710
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: comes with the word influencer, because people hear the word

711
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: influencer and they just think you just post a photo

712
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: and get paid for it. And yes, if someone's life

713
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: is poster a TikTok, get paid for it. And then

714
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: you're off to the beach and you're off shopping and

715
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: you're off to dinner. And but that's all you do

716
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: all day. And if you're going, yeah, if you're going,

717
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: it's really hard work. Of course, that's really out of touch,

718
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: and I disagree with you. But my thing is, especially

719
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: in Australia, it's also a lot different to influencers around

720
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: the world. I think that a lot of us really

721
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: are hustling and Ronica Bee. I will sit here and

722
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 2: defend does work hard in the grand scheme of things,

723
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: because she doesn't just post a photo and then la

724
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: la la, la la all day. She's created businesses, She's

725
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: run businesses thanks to influencing. She's created networking events for influencers.

726
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: She gets all these sponsors on board and hosts like

727
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: nights for creators to get together and blah blah blah.

728
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: She does raffles and fundraisers and blah blah blah. She

729
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: does motivational speaking. She's done, you know, all of these clubs.

730
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: She flies herself around the word well to go and increase

731
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: her profile, and she just recently flew to Dubai to

732
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: go and collaborate with Dubai influences to boost her profile

733
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: over there, etc. Like I do believe that's a and

734
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: a hustler's mentality. And I also get that because like

735
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: I kind of am in the same boat where I'm like,

736
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm actually not going to let anyone tell me that

737
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't work hard, because I do believe that I

738
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: do work hard and that this career that I've chosen

739
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: is hard work. It's so fucking rewarding, And I understand

740
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: my privilege. Okay, that I can work for myself. I

741
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: can wake up when I want, I can say yes

742
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: and no to certain things and do what I want

743
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: and run my own business that way. I understand that

744
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: it's so so rewarding, but like, let's take the live

745
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: show for example, if you actually do the maths which

746
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: I did on to prove to people or to the

747
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: people in my life, I guess not that I needed to,

748
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: but it was just a conversation we were having and

749
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: I did the math. If I wanted to make money,

750
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: there's I shouldn't have gone done a tour this year.

751
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: I should have gone and worked at McDonald's because I

752
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: would have made more money at McDonald's than doing the

753
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: tour that I did. After all, the people get paid

754
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: and all the costumes get made and everything comes out

755
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: in the wash, and the hours that go into that,

756
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: I am genuinely making like four dollars an hour, do

757
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? On that tour, And yes,

758
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 2: it's rewarding.

759
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: I think it's because like when people hear influencer, the

760
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: here is it hard to be an influencer, Like they

761
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: just picture your stereotypical influencer where they're fucking going out

762
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: for coffee, going to here and there, then doing a

763
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: little sponsored photo, like because that's what that's the box

764
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: that influencers get put into.

765
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: I know, but I feel I get put in that box,

766
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. So people look at me and

767
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: they don't straight away think anything else but like, oh,

768
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 2: he's an influencer, or like I get put in that.

769
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: You know, when you talk about the TikTok Awards, you go,

770
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: it's a bunch of influencers. But you're there, Britney. You

771
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: don't classify yourself as an influencer. I'm there. I would

772
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: like to be known as even just content creators better

773
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: or comedian. But people don't say that. They just go,

774
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: it's a bunch of influence. So I think it's all

775
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: relative to and there's like a lot a lot of

776
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: nuance and a lot of context was missed there because

777
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: Ronica be being like, yeah, it is hard work. Actually

778
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: I believe she does work hard. I believe I work hard.

779
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: And if you're just posting a photo whatever, that's a

780
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: different conversation. The other point I want to make, sorry, well,

781
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: this is a bit of Matt's rants is people always go, oh,

782
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: you know. If they think that's hard work, try being

783
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: a nurse. Try being a teacher. Sorry, this might get

784
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: me canceled, but I reckon I would be the best

785
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: fucking nurse ever, and I reckon I'd be the best

786
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: fucking teacher ever. And the thing is, when you really

787
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: think about careers in general, there are going to be

788
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: people in that career, even being a nurse. There are

789
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: a lot of hard working nurses out there. There are

790
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: going to be nurses who don't work hard. There are

791
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: teachers who work really hard. Think about high school. There

792
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: were teachers that worked hard, and there were teachers that,

793
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: in my opinion, didn't work hard at all. When I've

794
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: been to the hospital for my things, I can see

795
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: the hard working nurses, and I can see the ones

796
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 2: who don't want to be there and aren't working hard.

797
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: You go to McDonald's, there's a hard worker. Do in

798
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: all the jobs. There's someone who couldn't give a shit.

799
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: You go do your groceries, there are hard workers. There

800
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: are people who aren't working hard, not lifting a finger.

801
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: That happens in every industry, and in the influencer industry

802
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: it happens as well. There are some of us working

803
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: hard and there are some of us not working hard.

804
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: But the problem is everyone hears the word influencer and

805
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: thinks no one works hard. And I'm like, girl, not

806
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: to be Mikayla and say Chrybana influencer for a year.

807
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: But I truly believe if you actually lived in the

808
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: you know, if someone tried to do what I did,

809
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 2: I believe in this year, even last year, I genuinely

810
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: would be like, it would open your eyes to be like, whoa, Actually,

811
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: there's a lot of fucking work going on here, do

812
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So I'm not gonna let

813
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: anyone tell me that I don't work hard, because I

814
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: believe that I fucking do, And you know what, the

815
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: people in my life who are close to me know

816
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: that I do, and that's all that matters to me.

817
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: But that video pissed me the fuck off.

818
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: I wish they use more of mind because I said, I

819
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: used to be an influencer and now I'm not. And

820
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: I just said I wish like influencers would know that

821
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: they're living the fucking dream because I used to do

822
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: that for a job, and like, you're living the dream

823
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: and you don't even realize you live in a dream

824
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: like that was my spiel but only got one little

825
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: sentence in it.

826
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: And for sure, I'm living the dream. I'm having the

827
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 2: best time, and you lived the dream as well. And yes,

828
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: in comparison to running fate, you're obviously working a lot

829
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: harder than you were then, but you still worked hard

830
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: when you were an influencer, right, Yeah.

831
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 1: I could have worked way harder. Reflecting at the time,

832
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is so much. The managers

833
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: are so annoying, brands are annoying me, Everyone's asking me

834
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: to reshoot shit. And at that time I was working

835
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: hard for my working hard for them, but like being

836
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: on the other side, it's open my fucking eyes. Ok

837
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, if I could be back in that

838
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: position for like one more day I or like one

839
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: more year, like I'd fucking lap that shit up only

840
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: because I'm on the other side of the fence now.

841
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: Okay, see, but I still feel it's relevant.

842
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: Back then, Yeah, I was working hard if you were like.

843
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: Whatever, whereas I'm like, I'm making this into.

844
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: I was also very young back then. I was like

845
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: twenty two.

846
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: True. Anyway, that was a bit of a combo of

847
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: Royal Flush and Matt's rants. But glad I got that

848
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: off my chest. And similar to you saying you were

849
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: going to jump into the savvy thing, I wanted to

850
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: jump in and share my thoughts, but I was just like,

851
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: you know what the problem is here at high scrollers.

852
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: We have our scrollers who know us and know the

853
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: context and know the new ones.

854
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: If you jump on TikTok, it could go to.

855
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: Anything exactly and they just wouldn't get it, And then

856
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm getting canceled, you know what I mean? Which you

857
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: know what at this point do it? I need a

858
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: bit of a thrill in life. Anyway, we should probably

859
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: wrap this up before I say anything else that's really

860
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: going to get me canceled. Thanks for listening, Scrollers, love ya,

861
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Speaker 2: see you soon. Have a great week. You'll know what

862
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 2: to do already.

863
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, raiders do all the things.

864
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: Anyway, d'yla better let you go. I've got I have

865
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 2: a really fucking hard day at work.