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Speaker 1: Sitzi and with her with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well with Master Chef about to start yesterday Australia, well globally,

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Speaker 2: this news rocked everybody yesterday when we heard the news

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Speaker 2: that Jock zon Villa Zonville had passed away, and there

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Speaker 2: is a lot of people that are sending out all

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Speaker 2: their wishes this morning. We wanted to get someone on

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Speaker 2: who is very close to Jock, a good friend of

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Speaker 2: ours as well, Colin Faznitz. And we know how busy

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Speaker 2: you are, fas you've just jumped off a flight, so

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Speaker 2: we appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: But buddy, OHI, good morning, Faz.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for talking, mate. Not easy to chat at

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Speaker 3: this stage with the passing so raw. And just yesterday

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Speaker 3: afternoon we learned the news. How long had you know

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Speaker 3: in jock formte? Obviously the chef community is pretty tight, mate.

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Speaker 1: You don't realize how slight our community is. I've done

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Speaker 1: Jock for twenty years. He worked at a restaurant called

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Speaker 1: Restaurant forty one and I worked at banks. You know,

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Speaker 1: guy of an amazing skill. You know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: my phone hasn't stopped them. I'm pretty sure every chef

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Speaker 1: when i's phone hasn't stopped. It's like, you don't realize

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Speaker 1: how tight the hospitality community is and they're just rocked

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Speaker 1: to the court a shocked us.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask about your industry and it's such

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Speaker 2: a pressure cooker industry and the environment that you're in.

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Speaker 2: You're in the spotlight as well now as well. You're

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Speaker 2: a celebrity chef as well, the same as Jock was.

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Speaker 2: Does that play on you? Do you have moments mate,

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Speaker 2: where it's really tough for you. Anxiety plays a role

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Speaker 2: in your life as well, and you have some dark moments.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm the sorry guy who's pretty glass half full.

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Speaker 1: I know Jock was that is, you know, his little

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Speaker 1: worry beads, and he spoke about it. But I've spoke

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Speaker 1: to Jock about it before when he left sort of

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Speaker 1: restaurant land and went into TV land. Sometimes it's seeing

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Speaker 1: as you sort of sold out or you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. And there was a lot of that went on,

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Speaker 1: and I spoke to him about that. Mate. We're doing

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Speaker 1: a job and it is a high pressure job. When

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Speaker 1: when I heard the news yesterday, I rang for a

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Speaker 1: right for swearing. I rang manw and I was like,

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Speaker 1: because it's like it's like your your your work wife

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Speaker 1: or whatever.

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Speaker 4: You want to call it, a member of the family.

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Speaker 1: So much time on the road together, and there was

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Speaker 1: a shock. And then I sent mel and Andy a

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Speaker 1: message yesterday. The Mastership team, even our MKR team, are

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Speaker 1: in shock because we all work together. Everyone always says

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Speaker 1: we're rivals or whatever, but did even the TV team

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Speaker 1: or the two different shows as one big family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think they say those things about people that work

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Speaker 4: in the same industry. They're up against each other, but

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Speaker 4: in actual fact, they're your allies. They're the only other

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Speaker 4: people who understand the kind of pressures you are under

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Speaker 4: and the scrutiny that you come up against, and the

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Speaker 4: way you work, and the sleepless nights and all all

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Speaker 4: the hard work and criticism you kind of you're on

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Speaker 4: the same page.

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Speaker 1: When I had a kitchen nightmares, Jock was one of

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Speaker 1: the first island going what a great show, congratulate. I

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Speaker 1: often ring him at the startup of Master Chef, good

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Speaker 1: luck with your shell and flag off his waistcoats because

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Speaker 1: I was the one to set him on the puck

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Speaker 1: to wearing waistcoats.

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Speaker 3: As you know what, I didn't realize and I hadn't

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Speaker 3: watched a lot of Master Chef and therefore I didn't

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Speaker 3: know a hell of a lot about Jock and I

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Speaker 3: unfortunately never had the chance to meet him. But you know,

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Speaker 3: learning a lot about him overnight and also seeing everyone

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Speaker 3: celebrate the man that he was and also his level

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Speaker 3: of success. I didn't realize he was at the top

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Speaker 3: of the top main three.

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Speaker 1: He was in one restaurant of the year ago, My Traveler,

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Speaker 1: his restaurant Orner, which was all using native ingredients. He

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Speaker 1: was like one of our best chefs in Australia, and

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Speaker 1: not only such a great guy, a family man who's

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Speaker 1: lost his dad. He was top of the industry as well.

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Speaker 1: He's lost the industry and the TV industry. It's just

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Speaker 1: the whole world I reckon for chefs yesterday, just stood

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Speaker 1: still in the afternoon and was in shock.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting too because he looked like, you know,

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Speaker 3: a fun guy. A lot of the outpouring yesterday was

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Speaker 3: also a celebration of times where people had been out

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Speaker 3: with him having a couple of drinks, and the photos

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Speaker 3: across social media all celebrated him and his personality. So

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Speaker 3: I would suggest the two of you at the bar

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Speaker 3: would have been a great night out, Faz.

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Speaker 1: I remember a certain night in a certain bar in

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Speaker 1: Adelaide where we were dancing on the bar. But then

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Speaker 1: and then I remember another night where we had I

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Speaker 1: think it was the mois Chandona. We both had to

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Speaker 1: do a dish for the function. He was drinking water

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Speaker 1: and I was on the whiskey. So there you go,

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Speaker 1: there you go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you come from a tough background yourself. We

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Speaker 2: know you've got this tough exterior. We've had you on

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Speaker 2: the show. You're a good made of ours. But how

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Speaker 2: important is it these days to talk to friends when

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Speaker 2: when you are going through these dark times.

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Speaker 1: Well, I didn't. Guessterday was one of the biggest eye openers. Actually,

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Speaker 1: when I still say this happens, I got so many

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Speaker 1: calls from so many people. It's not me, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm actually all right. I'm in shock,

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Speaker 1: but everyone's like, are you okay? But the chef world

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Speaker 1: sort of does look after the chef world.

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Speaker 2: M That's another one. Can I ask you as well,

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Speaker 2: because my boys were looking at the news last night

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Speaker 2: and asking about it. Did you talk about it with

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Speaker 2: your daughters? Did you sit down and you had a

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Speaker 2: conversation yet.

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Speaker 1: Well they just do you know what I got jang.

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Speaker 1: It's like Jane gave me a hook so much to

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Speaker 1: be blad. I got home. I had a whiskey, man,

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Speaker 1: I had a very large whiskey. Some to the kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's I don't it's sort of they don't understand yet.

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Speaker 1: But I mean it's I don't know, like we're we're

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Speaker 1: we're about to do a shoot today and Aaron's hard

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Speaker 1: teams in shock and we're we're a different show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet, I bet it's ripped the heart out

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Speaker 3: of the game. You know what, your heart pause and

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Speaker 3: your your mind jumps directly to the family. And I

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Speaker 3: believe as there they've been overseas, they've been away from home,

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Speaker 3: and to think that you have to travel back to

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Speaker 3: the family home and it obviously won't be the same,

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Speaker 3: but that is a that is a hard, hard time

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Speaker 3: for them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it was very emotional last night watching his

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Speaker 1: young kids on on the TV. That's the worst. And

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of a lot of our license

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Speaker 1: on the road in hotel rooms. You know you're not

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Speaker 1: at home, you don't see your family, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I sort of mirror his life a little bit of

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Speaker 1: you're away a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: I've been home to three days in two weeks.

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Speaker 2: That's hard. Yeah, that is hard.

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Speaker 4: You think about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, appreciate your time, mate, We really really do. You're

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Speaker 2: you're a good made of ours and Faz, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know with anything like this and if you have

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Speaker 2: a feeling like that, and for anyone out there, if

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Speaker 2: you're having these feelings at the moment, you need to

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Speaker 2: speak to somebody. And the number for Lifeline is thirteen

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Speaker 2: eleven fourteen. If you know someone who is struggling as well,

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Speaker 2: please get on the blur and have a chat to

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Speaker 2: them if you can. We appreciate your time, Faz, thank

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Speaker 2: you for coming on the show.

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Speaker 1: All right, guysgards yourself, Thanks buddy.

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Speaker 3: And the question too, as we were talking off air,

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Speaker 3: is you know, master Chef, what does that look like now?

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Speaker 3: As you've mentioned Fitz, it was meant to air last

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Speaker 3: night for the first time they were on the bridge

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Speaker 3: and do you play it out?

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Speaker 2: Well, let's see, would have to be up to the family,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't it. I would say it would have to be

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Speaker 2: up to the family.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I would imagine, so.

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Speaker 3: Because then Tommy you said they were considering maybe that

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Speaker 3: there was a re edit in it. Because you can't

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Speaker 3: help but watch it. I would think of well it

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Speaker 3: could could think of the past. Could you play it

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Speaker 3: in the honor of Jock. I mean, that's the way

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Speaker 3: you could look at it. But if the family don't

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Speaker 3: want it, you have to respect their decision. There a

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Speaker 3: very hard call, a very hard call to make.

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Speaker 4: I think there's something I'd like to say. And I

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Speaker 4: know that we put out the number of Lifeline and

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Speaker 4: you fits you're saying that people should reach out when

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Speaker 4: when they're feeling like this. I think that we all

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Speaker 4: need to remember that it's not only now that we

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Speaker 4: need to be making it okay for people to ask

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Speaker 4: for help, and that when people do need help that

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Speaker 4: we also need to support them and not criticize them.

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Speaker 3: It's a really good, really good message I had to

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Speaker 3: make the other day that called and he said, he said, ah,

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Speaker 3: how's your mental health these days? And my first reaction

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Speaker 3: I said, well, firstly, thank you for asking, because it's

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Speaker 3: you don't hear it every day, and you Kate, You're right,

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Speaker 3: it should be something that.

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Speaker 4: It's not something we should just be doing today. And yes,

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Speaker 4: it's okay, and you should call this number like it

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Speaker 4: should be okay all of the time, and it shouldn't

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Speaker 4: have to get to this point to make it okay

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Speaker 4: to ask for help. And there are people out there

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Speaker 4: struggling every day, and rather than criticizing them, let's make

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Speaker 4: it okay for them to ask for help and to

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Speaker 4: not kind of kind of pile shame onto people for

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Speaker 4: asking for help because it's incredibly, incredibly brave.

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Speaker 2: Beautifully said Kate. Thank you very much.

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