WEBVTT - #2086 Q & A With Dr. Jeff Gross

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<v Speaker 1>I got a team. It's the Bloody Youth Project. What

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<v Speaker 1>else would it be, because that's what it says on

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<v Speaker 1>the label. Tiffany and Cook. The boss of me is

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<v Speaker 1>over there at typ Central with her big, weepy, horrible

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<v Speaker 1>thing on her right shoulder. It's still no, it's not now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's vanishing. You're probably not going to get a root

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<v Speaker 1>anytime off your new bloke. But maybe if you keep

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<v Speaker 1>that covered up. Dr Jeff's like, what's a root sex

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<v Speaker 1>stoc over here? If you're rooting your fucking but in

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<v Speaker 1>the States, you're cheering someone on. But tiff and her

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<v Speaker 1>bloke they do both. They root and cheer each other on.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of mutual gratitude, well done, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying my best. So you know, it's a linguistic thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a cultural thing, it's an international thing. But nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>how is your leprosy tip? Is it clearing up?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of lingering, It's just there. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit painful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if the good doc didn't live on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the world, I'm sure it could give you

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<v Speaker 1>something that might, you know, accelerate the healing. Tis Shawsha tips,

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<v Speaker 1>Doc I was going to start a website called Shawosha

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<v Speaker 1>Tips where people from all over the world just and

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<v Speaker 1>now that I've said that, that's going to be live

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow with somebody else doing it. But anyway, right, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff officially, Happy New Year, Happy post Christmas. How are you, buddy?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm well, happy, happy to you and Tiff as well

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<v Speaker 3>and yours. I'm good. I missed you, guys. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to you and catch up and talk about

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<v Speaker 3>all the exciting developments here. I think we should start

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<v Speaker 3>out with our pyramids are upside down. Our food pyramid

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<v Speaker 3>got flipped and we're changing everything. We had to empty

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<v Speaker 3>my refrigerator and start over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or at least standing on your head. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's got to be some kind of compromise. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's open In Australia they say open the batting, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like a cricket analogy. Let's open the batting with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we your thoughts? Is it good? Is in

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes? Is it good? Is it bad? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>I know that it's created a massive polarizing interest on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides over there. How did you read it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's polarizing much. I think it's necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the knowledge has been here and healthy

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<v Speaker 3>people have already flipped their own pyramid. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>drives government payments for people who are less fortunate and

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<v Speaker 3>need help with getting food, school lunches, things that are

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<v Speaker 3>sort of scripted from a big brother. Yeah, and uncle Sam. Yes, so,

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<v Speaker 3>and I understand how we got here, right. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>after World War One and worse after World War Two,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there were people that in the planet, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>our corner of it, that needed access to food source

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<v Speaker 3>that could be shelf stable for a long time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and during the Cold War, you know, people

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<v Speaker 3>were fixing their shelters, you know, stocking food that could

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<v Speaker 3>last for years and years, so you canned foods, you

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<v Speaker 3>have preservatives. And then so the carbohydrates were big and bold,

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<v Speaker 3>and real whole foods weren't there. These were all sort

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<v Speaker 3>of the dog foods, dog foods for human right, packaged

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<v Speaker 3>foods that could last. And then it became well, what

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<v Speaker 3>can we sell to kids? More colorful things, more sugar,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, lace things. Sugar is the cocaine for kids, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So we did this to ourselves, and so it's about

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<v Speaker 3>time we flipped it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's interesting. It's interesting the origin story of

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<v Speaker 1>the food pyramid as it was, and the whole ansel

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<v Speaker 1>Keys research fiasco and who funded the research. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few parallel graphs on the interwebs about the

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<v Speaker 1>introduction of low fat eating or the food pyramid and

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<v Speaker 1>the increase in obesity. Like their theory was essentially low

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<v Speaker 1>fat eating equals low fat population, you know, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>the irony is, well, the opposite happened. The minute that

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<v Speaker 1>we introduced low fat eating, we also introduced high sugar eating,

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<v Speaker 1>high processed food eating, carbohydrate eating, and essentially from the

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<v Speaker 1>day that started, obese levels started to increase. So do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that's political and commercial?

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<v Speaker 3>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Un till fifty years?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Oh, for sure. It's a lot cheaper for companies

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<v Speaker 3>to produce preserve foods that don't expire, right, so they

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<v Speaker 3>have a longer chance to sell them, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they put they make them so amazingly tasting that everyone

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<v Speaker 3>wants them, right instead of having real, real nutrient dense foods. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that the cost is in the healthcare system. The foods

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<v Speaker 3>are cheaper, the healthcare is way more yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So it's effectively more expensive anyway, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And how has the general reaction been.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's actually been good. I haven't heard negative,

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<v Speaker 3>and we hear plenty of negative over here. I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>heard anything really negative about that except the people with

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we call Trump rangent syndrome. Had anything Trump

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<v Speaker 3>or his people say must be wrong. So therefore we

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<v Speaker 3>go the opposite way. And there's a lot of that

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<v Speaker 3>out there. And you know, you s see pictures of

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<v Speaker 3>these people on the internet. They usually have multicolored and

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<v Speaker 3>strange piercings and tattoos in places that you just wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>even consider.

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<v Speaker 1>And also it seems like any kind of new health

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<v Speaker 1>directive or finding or you know, kind of suggestion, all

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<v Speaker 1>of these people come out of the woodwork and go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but RFK is not a doctor or it's like whoa, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not based on what he thinks, it's research based.

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<v Speaker 1>It's and also he's seventy one and does twenty chin ups.

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<v Speaker 3>So I.

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<v Speaker 1>At the very least like the fact that the Director

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<v Speaker 1>of National Health or whatever he's called is actually fit

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<v Speaker 1>and strong and healthy. Like, I think that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>bad it's not the worst starting point. I know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more required. But the fact that he's in

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<v Speaker 1>such phenomenal shape, atypical shape for somebody his age, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you and his philosophy is on how to

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<v Speaker 1>eat and how to supplement and how to optimize health

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<v Speaker 1>is probably not that far apart, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, So I would agree with that. I think

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, a lot of the things he espouses and

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<v Speaker 3>is trying to bring to the forefront in a transparent

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<v Speaker 3>way and create liberties and freedoms makes sense. I just

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<v Speaker 3>wish the bureaucrats levels below him would would follow his lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you, all right, So I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>might do something different today. I was literally talking to

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<v Speaker 1>I've been talking to him, made of mind. His name's

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Gwilt. Shout out to Jimmy. I see him in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning at the cafes. He's so. You know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard of AFL, right doc, AFL A A for Amanda

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<v Speaker 1>or Apple AFL. So that's basically the NFL in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's Australian Football League. So over here that's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest sport they get on a pretty regular basis. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two one hundred thousand people at a game. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big deal here. It's the national sport cricket

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<v Speaker 1>of course, rugby of course, but AFL is very very

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<v Speaker 1>popular anyway, So Jimmy was an AFL player for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time where friends and now I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>him and he's got he's got tendnightis, he's got basically

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<v Speaker 1>lateral epicond the lightis or tennis elbow or whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to call it. And he was asking me what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think of peptides? And I'm like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they can be helpful, but I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>guru at all. He goes, are there any peptides I

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<v Speaker 1>can take? Or is they're a peptide? And in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>it's a slippery slope of fockery because you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still not it's not really legal. It's it's a bit messy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bit unregulated, it's a bit everything. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>put that aside for the moment. So, are there any

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<v Speaker 1>peptides that you would recommend for like muscular injuries like

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<v Speaker 1>that or inflammation or it's almost like where that what

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Brachio radialis inserts into the elbow, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, what's something that would work for that, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe treat that we.

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<v Speaker 3>Would start Jimmy on a wolverine protocol, and that the

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<v Speaker 3>protocol would include a number of peptides blended together. The

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<v Speaker 3>first one is called BPC one five seven or Body

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<v Speaker 3>Protection Compound one five to seven, naturally occurring in gastric juice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not suggesting he vomited up some gastric juice and

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<v Speaker 3>injected into his elbow, but this is isolated from gastric juice.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's we make it and it's naturally occurring. You

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<v Speaker 3>just need to concentrate it in certain areas. It's heavily

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<v Speaker 3>anti inflammatory and supports muscular skeletal healing regeneration. Typically combined

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<v Speaker 3>with it is another one called TB five hundred thymysy

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<v Speaker 3>data five hundred thymusin means that it was identified from

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<v Speaker 3>the famous gland you don't hear much about since they

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<v Speaker 3>kind of shrivel up and die, but they support our

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<v Speaker 3>immune system. And this is an extract therefrom and them,

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<v Speaker 3>and that can be angiogenic new blood vessels healing. The

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<v Speaker 3>two of them together are synergistically regenerative. Commonly, the two

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<v Speaker 3>of them with another one are referred to, you know

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<v Speaker 3>as the Wolverine protocol. So Wolverine the character who can

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<v Speaker 3>heal himself. Right. So the third element might be the

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<v Speaker 3>copper peptide might be one called KPV. We both have

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<v Speaker 3>anti inflammatory and restorative properties. So the two main ones

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<v Speaker 3>plus remindus the third one can be quite useful. Now

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<v Speaker 3>by itself, you know, we don't like to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>We do like to look at the lifestyle, the diet,

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<v Speaker 3>everything related to inflammation to see what else we can

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<v Speaker 3>clean up. You know, if Jimmy is at the cafe

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<v Speaker 3>and for breakfast, having you know, a Foster's, then it's

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<v Speaker 3>probably we probably need to have a different discussion first.

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<v Speaker 3>And a croissant, right, a croissant, yeah, yes, And and

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<v Speaker 3>here here you know, croissants are very delicious, but they

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<v Speaker 3>they're very high in calories. You know, they've got layers

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<v Speaker 3>and layers of of butter. Not the butter is bad necessarily,

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<v Speaker 3>but they could be high in calories. And they're all

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<v Speaker 3>carbs really except for the butter.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so there are peptides. That's a it's a

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<v Speaker 3>low hanging fruit application.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, So what I did was I put

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<v Speaker 1>on one of my pages that I'm chatting with you. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>just remember everybody, none of this is we're just talking.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's call these hypothetical people. But and so doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Jef's not recommending you do anything. But if these were

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<v Speaker 1>patients of yours, which they're not, but if they were,

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<v Speaker 1>so I got I actually had. I thought I might

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<v Speaker 1>get five or ten. I actually had like fucking fifty

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<v Speaker 1>or something. People, I'm like, wow, so I've got twenty

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<v Speaker 1>in front of me. I'm going to see how we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So talk as long as you want, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>could keep each answer to one or two minutes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably good because it will help us get through a bunch. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hypothetical mark from Perth mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is the hypothetical part mark or Perth.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty two also hypothetically fifty two. I've got ni osteoarthritis

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to avoid a replacement. Do stem cell

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<v Speaker 1>or PRP injections actually rebuild cartilage or do they just

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<v Speaker 1>reduce pain? And then he's got all questions my question

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<v Speaker 1>mark question mark.

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<v Speaker 3>From an educational perspective, PRP is not strong enough to

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<v Speaker 3>really regenerate cartilage, but it will suppress inflammation related to pain.

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<v Speaker 3>It won't suppress the mechanical loss of cartilage pain, so

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<v Speaker 3>the dull achy pain, but some of the more acute

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<v Speaker 3>inflammatory pain. It can suppress the stem cells or the

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<v Speaker 3>stem cell exosomes, which is the signaling from stem cells.

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<v Speaker 3>We have demonstrated to regenerate cartilage. It's it's demonstrated in

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<v Speaker 3>the literature. We have it anecdotally. We have before and

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<v Speaker 3>after r people. It takes about a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to be targeted just right. It's more effective

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not completely lost, you haven't completely lost all

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<v Speaker 3>your cartilage. It's a lot easier to do if you

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<v Speaker 3>have some cartilage left. Of course, we again with those people,

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<v Speaker 3>we do stack peptides, wolverine protocol, We do look at

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<v Speaker 3>their lifestyle, their diet, their supplements, their everything. We want

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<v Speaker 3>to stack the deck in your favor. And that's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most frequent things we do here is take

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<v Speaker 3>people facing a joint replacement and turn them around.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an amazing capacity to be able to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Hypothetical Sophie from Hypothetical Sydney. I've had Charlton

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<v Speaker 1>Pine for three years after I don't want to say CrossFit,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what she wrote. Sorry, CrossFit. CrossFit is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good for a lot of people, but everything can injure.

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<v Speaker 1>You keep that in mind, kids. Charlote Pine three year

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<v Speaker 1>is my scans say, tend anopathy, what camera regenitor regenerative

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<v Speaker 1>medicine do for tendon damage if anything?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, tendinopathy has an inflammatory component. We approach it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the same way we would. We would consider some peptides.

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<v Speaker 3>The regenerative biologics from prp UP through stem cells and

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<v Speaker 3>exosomes can have a role in helping that. We want

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<v Speaker 3>to reduce the inflammation and then return some flexibility to

0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:33.880
<v Speaker 3>the tendons. So we might recommend some flexibility work, some yoga,

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<v Speaker 3>some really good stretches, and then we would talk. We

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<v Speaker 3>would look at some labs and you know, see, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the body tends to dry out, the structures dry, they're

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<v Speaker 3>more likely to crack, break achilles tendons, rupture, things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So we would look at the hormone profile. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>often that is the thing. I realized that might be

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<v Speaker 3>difficult where you are to get but it is one

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<v Speaker 3>of the keys to longevity. Medicine is maintaining a youthful

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<v Speaker 3>hormone profile.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, perfect, Greg Melbourne. I've been told my spinal discs degenerating,

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<v Speaker 1>is that just aging or camera generative therapies actually reverse it.

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<v Speaker 3>We have seen some cases where we have some improvements

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<v Speaker 3>in disc. Disc is sort of the holy grail. The

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<v Speaker 3>they're not as easy to see benefits as regular joints are.

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<v Speaker 3>But we have something on a coming that we're working

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<v Speaker 3>on here called the disk sandwich therapy that I coined,

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<v Speaker 3>where we we will do typical regenerative biologics derived from

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<v Speaker 3>stem cells in the bone above and below the disc,

0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.040
<v Speaker 3>and then the disc we're going to be inserting something

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<v Speaker 3>called meuse. And this is a subset of stem cells

0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.639
<v Speaker 3>that are becoming more popular. About one percent of our

0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.359
<v Speaker 3>stem cells are muse. They're smaller, they're more powerful, they're

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<v Speaker 3>hard to collect because they they're such a small proponent

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<v Speaker 3>of or component of stem cells in general. But they

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<v Speaker 3>are now becoming more available. And there was a study

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<v Speaker 3>out of China, I think a year or two ago,

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<v Speaker 3>using muse cells in a hydrogel to regenerate disks. So

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<v Speaker 3>we are seeking to improve upon that and then and

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<v Speaker 3>then we can re answer that question with more robust positivity.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Uh Lillam, I tored my ICL two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and it never felt right again. Could stem cell

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<v Speaker 1>stem cells help avoid another surgery? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>The ACL? So potentially was the ACL repaired? Is you

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<v Speaker 3>know the only time we've had stem cells help repair

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<v Speaker 3>and a S was when it's not fully torn and

0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:13.000
<v Speaker 3>it's really acute. We have some examples of that. But

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<v Speaker 3>if it's if it's an old tear and the sides

0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.480
<v Speaker 3>have pulled away, it's not repaired. Putting stem cells in

0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:20.919
<v Speaker 3>there are not going to regenerate that. You still have

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<v Speaker 3>to have that repaired. But yes, it can help the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the knee. It can help the muscles strengthen,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you have to do the work still right,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to rebuild rehability and build the muscles, strengthen

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<v Speaker 3>the surrounding structures including the other leg including the hips

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<v Speaker 3>and the ankles, and mechanics mechanics, mechanics, right, So the

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<v Speaker 3>answer is most probably yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you had a surgery. Could stem cells help

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<v Speaker 1>me avoid another surgery? So yeah, Helen seventy gold lucky

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<v Speaker 1>you Hell, I've got arthritis in my hands and hips.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh not so lucky at my age is regenerative medicine

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<v Speaker 1>is still worth considering.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, she's seven. Absolutely. I have this sweet eighty one

0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.159
<v Speaker 3>year old that comes in every other year for stem

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<v Speaker 3>cell access m IV. And she's got osteoarthritic aches and

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<v Speaker 3>pains and many joints throughout her body, and she gets

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<v Speaker 3>so bad she can't paint her her crafting her she

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<v Speaker 3>gets these large river rocks and she eats colorful things

0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.840
<v Speaker 3>and gives them out as paperweight gifts. I've got one

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<v Speaker 3>in my other room. She she gets an IV and

0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.879
<v Speaker 3>she feels amazing for up to two years at a time.

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<v Speaker 3>And she said, when do I come back? I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you let me know when you're ready. We see her

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<v Speaker 3>about every two years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's bad for business. You need to get one that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, I'm not thinking this through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, stop being so fucking NRS Jack forty four. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a chronic law back pain with no clear cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Would stem cell therapy help nerve related pain or only

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<v Speaker 1>joint damage?

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<v Speaker 3>So I would seek to find that cause. To me,

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 3>that's just an incomplete diagnostic. We just need to work

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<v Speaker 3>that out. But separate from that, there are approaches for

0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.720
<v Speaker 3>nerve pain with regenerative medicine. There are approaches for joint

0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:36.199
<v Speaker 3>related inflammatory pain, and sometimes it's some of both. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's about the targeting. It's not just you know what

0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.520
<v Speaker 3>the cause is, but exactly where it is so we

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.800
<v Speaker 3>can put it in the right place. So this is

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<v Speaker 3>where high quality MRIs with all the bells and whistles

0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:54.800
<v Speaker 3>are done. Three tesla MRI with all kinds of sequences

0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.960
<v Speaker 3>we ask for. It's like a secret menu you have

0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:00.200
<v Speaker 3>to know about. You can't just check a box as

0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:06.399
<v Speaker 3>MRI lower spine. Yeah. And then it's about correlating the

0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:08.400
<v Speaker 3>findings on the MRI with someone who knows what they're

0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:11.199
<v Speaker 3>looking at to the actual symptoms. You need to be

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.800
<v Speaker 3>asked a hundred questions. Where does it hurt, what sets

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<v Speaker 3>it off? What makes it better? Does it radiate? Show

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<v Speaker 3>me how big the spot is where it hurts, how

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<v Speaker 3>deep is it? You know? And there's an art to this,

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<v Speaker 3>and it has to be it takes time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you would know you're a spinal surgeon among other things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I got to tell you that you see

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred patients, there's going to be one of them

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<v Speaker 3>who you keep looking and looking and looking and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not clear that there is an anatomic source and that

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<v Speaker 3>does happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so what are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 3>Cause you keep looking, you might try some nerve blocks

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.840
<v Speaker 3>or numbing blocks of joints and things to Sometimes it's

0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.040
<v Speaker 3>like going to the fuse box. You have that you

0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.800
<v Speaker 3>call the fuse boxes down there. Okay, so you go

0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.200
<v Speaker 3>to the fuse box outside the house because you want

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<v Speaker 3>to change a light fixture in the bathroom and you

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.199
<v Speaker 3>don't know which you know, no one labeled the fuses,

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.240
<v Speaker 3>so you've got to figure out which one shuts off

0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 3>the bathroom because you want to turn off the power

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:16.720
<v Speaker 3>so you won't electrocute yourself during the during the changing

0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:18.919
<v Speaker 3>the thick of the light fixture, so you know, you

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 3>start throwing one switch at a time. And that's sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>what these numbing blocks do. We turn off the sensation

0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:28.800
<v Speaker 3>of a joint or of a nerve area or something

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.720
<v Speaker 3>to see if we can make that pain temporarily go away.

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<v Speaker 3>Because if you can make it temporarily go away, then

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<v Speaker 3>there's likely a solution that can make it go away

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<v Speaker 3>well for longer periods of time, maybe forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this next one, I've just read her right she's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four. Its could be premature this question, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's the perfect time. I'm trying to optimize longevity.

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<v Speaker 1>Stem cells just for injuries or can they be used

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<v Speaker 1>preventatively for aging? Some pretty good question here.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, these questions are fantastic. You couldn't have done a

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<v Speaker 3>better job getting it. They were long.

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<v Speaker 1>They were all longer, like some of them were a paragraph.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm not reading a paragraph, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>like all of the stuff that I'm reading was within

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. Some of them were this short and this specific.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just took the main question and because otherwise

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.160
<v Speaker 1>we'd be twenty minutes on each person. Yeah, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to optimize longevity. Ask themselves just for injuries or

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<v Speaker 1>can they be used preventatively for aging?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's a great question. And I love that we're

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<v Speaker 3>hearing from a younger person about this because the earlier

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.360
<v Speaker 3>you start taking action and the more you do over

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:48.199
<v Speaker 3>your life span, the better the result, the longer you

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 3>will live. And if I could script out the perfect

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 3>storm of a longevity plan, it would be starting in

0:23:54.400 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 3>your twenties and thirties. So, and I have people younger

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 3>people who are enthusiastic about this in the biohacking crowd,

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 3>and they do come for ivs once every six months,

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 3>once every twelve months. And yes, anything you do that

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:16.159
<v Speaker 3>suppresses inflammation, including stem cells, regenerative medicine and other things

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 3>will slow the aging of your cells. And you've just

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 3>slow the aging of yourselves. You're slowing the aging of yourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, oh, I see what you did there. I

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<v Speaker 1>see that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a slight little okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Steve Corell, you're on fire today. Ah. Nina.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, nanas from Barron Bay. I'm also jealous.

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of Barron Bay? Doc? No, Yeah,

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 1>very nice place. It's on the coast. It's at the

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>top of New South Wales Tiff, isn't it. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>quite in Queensland, I think, so, yeah, just find that

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<v Speaker 1>out and if I'm wrong, correct me. Tom forty nine camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a cuff surgery five years ago and it

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>never fully healed. Can regenerative treatments fix old surgical damage?

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.159
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of lot when we had a few guide ye,

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:16.120
<v Speaker 1>So you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Two things my two antennae go up. Antenna one is

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 3>did the surgery not fully repair things. You know, has

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 3>there been an MRI to take a deeper look and

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.360
<v Speaker 3>see what's still going on? Or number or number two,

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 3>is it's still just you know, leftover damage from the

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 3>underlying injury that caused the problem in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>The answer is there may be an approach for regenerative

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 3>medicine to both of those, and again it would be

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 3>targeted off. We have a really well done MRI three

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:49.399
<v Speaker 3>Tesla with inversion recovery sequences, thin slices. I mean you

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 3>this is like you know, you've got to be really

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 3>detailed and and the the issues will likely show themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, we match that with where the pain is

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<v Speaker 3>and what movements make it worse, and what functions you

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 3>struggle with, you know, is it overhead lifting? Is it rotation?

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Is you know what? And then from there we can

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 3>build a plan and give it a try.

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, if it's like me, it's putting on your

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>seat belt, external rotation, it's like my left shoulders ratshet clinically,

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the diagnosis. And also through TESLA, not

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 1>to be confused with the TESLA three.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, well done, well done, You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is that? Tom Maria fifty six Melbourne, him, Maria,

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I have early hip pathritis. What does that even mean?

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I have early hip pathritis and I'm terrified of a replacement?

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<v Speaker 1>You and me both, Maria. How effective our regenerative injections

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>at delaying surgery. I'm not sure exactly what she's asking, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I have this. This is a great question, and it's

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 3>great that you caught it early. And let's talk about

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 3>the word arthritis, because a lot of physicians throw that

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 3>word out there, and it's kind of unfair. It's a

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:12.120
<v Speaker 3>little too broad. So when a joint wears down, whether

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:16.120
<v Speaker 3>it's from repetitive use, maybe a focal injury at one

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 3>time that's catching up with you later, or just hard living,

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 3>it gives you inflammation. It affects a joint. It's called osteoarthritis.

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 3>Now that's separate from a disease called rheumatoid arthritis. That's

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 3>a genetic disease, and although both can lead to inflammation,

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 3>and that inflammation causes degeneration of joints. First, usually the

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 3>cartilage layer. And as you lose that cartilage layer, and

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 3>the word for that is chondro Malaysia, you lose the

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 3>cartilage layer, and then you lose the cushion and things

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 3>start to hurt because bone is rubbing on bone at

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.439
<v Speaker 3>some point, which is sort of the ends age of that.

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 3>So let's talk about cartilage production when you are a

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 3>fetus in Craig, you remember being a fetus of course.

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Nine months off. I fucking loved it. I was so comfy.

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 3>The the you're you're producing cartilage, you're making the joints,

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 3>and you're doing it from a set of cells that

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 3>live in what are called the growth plates of the bone.

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 3>So that that concept is the bone makes the cartilage.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 3>So when you're getting injections, the best injections to restimulate

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 3>that factory is a bone injection, not a cartilage injection.

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Cartilage is barely cellular. It's it's basically biological rubber. So Tiff,

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 3>just like hair grows from the follicles in your scalp,

0:28:55.240 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 3>I excluded you, Craig. The follicle grows, the fall produces

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 3>the protein of hair. Yeah, he's never gonna let me

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 3>on the show again, is he? Oh?

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I will die back. In therapy for Johmbar.

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 3>The bone produces the protein of cartilage. So if you're

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 3>getting injections of regenerative injections into the cartilage space that

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 3>has the lesser outcome than injecting the bone. So the

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 3>French literature has proven this, and a lot of what

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 3>we do follows some of that literature. They have over

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 3>fifteen year follow up comparing bone injections to cartlage injections

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 3>in the same patient. One knee gets the bone, one

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 3>knee gets the cartilage. Over eighty two percent at fifteen

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 3>years having had the bone injection are still able. They're

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 3>doing well enough to avoid a surgery, whereas the cartilage injected.

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 3>The joint injected group what we call intra articular group

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 3>now only twenty percent of fifteen years. So we know

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 3>that the party is in the bone edge, in the

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 3>growth plate, and that's why we inject the bone. Now

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 3>that sounds painful, but we do sedate people for that procedure.

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 3>So back to the underlying question, Yes, there there are

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 3>approaches we do. I could do quite a bit of

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 3>hip and join injections to help people avoid surgery. But

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 3>when we say joint, I'm talking about the bone above

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 3>and below the joint.

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to say the needle that gets injected into

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a bone that must be imagine it's.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 3>A little old. I don't have one here, handy, but

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 3>it's a little drill, little.

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Plastic that might so much bitter. She's out, she's like,

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>fuck you drill. Wow. So it's a little drill. So

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>you drill it in and then you put the drug

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>in there.

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the drill inserts a needle and bone needle. It's

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 3>a fifteen engaged needle. And then I do it under fluoroscopy,

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 3>which is X ray guidance. Target it on what I've

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 3>seen on the MRI. So I match up the entry point,

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 3>the depths, the angles. I know exactly where to go.

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Then I deliver the the you know biologics. Usually a

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>stem cell derived exosome amniotic fluid has growth factors that

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 3>has stem cell signaling, and and that's when we see

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 3>really wonderful things start to happen on the In the

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 3>vast majority of the cases, improve cartilage, improve, reduced pain,

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 3>reduced inflammation, bigger smiles, more activity.

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. If you and I should book in a week

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.959
<v Speaker 1>either with the good doc, it might be bringing your

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>bloke along. He's pretty fucked and old as well. He's like,

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>he's not the poster boy for broken Uh, and uh,

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you know we could just book him up for a week.

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>We'd have to you'd have to sell a kidney and

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 1>not have to sell I don't know something, wouldn't you

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>could sell that? We could go what do he said?

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>We could go and get an assessment and then get

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a pro and then just pop back once a year

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>for a fucking top up for it might be cheaper

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>just to fly him. Oh no, we can't do it

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>in Australia. Everything's illegal. This podcast probably illegal. All right,

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>let's move on. Ben. Oh we've got a dude and

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>he's thirty one. Hey Ben, thanks for being part of

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>my very old listening group. No, not that ot Ben

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>thirty one, Sydney. I am a competitive runner, of course

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>you are. With recurring hamstring tears can stem cells, strengthen

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>tissue so it stops reinjuring.

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, there's a role there. It would suppress the inflammation.

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 3>We would probably stack some peptides to help the courtlage

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 3>structures the muscles in that area. You know, some really

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 3>good rehabilitative activities you could learn to do for hamstring stretching,

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 3>because we want to have more range. You know, runners

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 3>get tight, they get tight hamstrings, and it's it's there,

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 3>it's their albatross. In fact, I would say their hamstring

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 3>could be their achilles.

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Heel, oh look at what you did there? Yeah wow,

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>he truly is Steve Carrell tonight. Okay, so this is

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>from Diane who's in Hobart. Do you know where Hobart is, Docicer,

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Hobart is the capital of Tasmania, down the bottom of Aussie,

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>down the bottom of us. Got it's not lon Sston,

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>is it? It is Hobart. Yeah. I just had a

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>moment there where I was guessing myself that's where Tiff

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>was born.

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>That's why she's got that Tazzy is, but not Hobart.

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Or well Tazzy. I mean it's only about fucking three

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>miles long, so that's not I mean, it's like it's

0:33:56.520 --> 0:34:00.959
<v Speaker 1>like a town. No, it's beautiful. I love Tazzy. Diane

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>sixty three Hobart. I've got spinal canals. Well she doesn't

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>say canal. I chuck that in there. I've got spinal

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 1>stenosis and numbness in my legs. Is that something we're

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>generative medicine can help? Or is surgery the only option? So?

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>So stenosis is basically the narrowing of the like the

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>passage where the nerves go through. As I understand it, Doc,

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:28.720
<v Speaker 1>and so ergo, numbness in her legs. What are your thoughts?

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, we will speak generally here because she didn't specify

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 3>if the numbness, sorry, if the stenesis is in the

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.839
<v Speaker 3>lower spine, lumber spine or the knight because you can

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 3>have stenosis in the neck affecting the fibers all the

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 3>way down. But let's assume it is a lower back

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 3>issue with next next question is what's causing a stenosis?

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Is she born with it? Some people are born with

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 3>the narrow canal to begin with, and then or is

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 3>it acquired? Did she develop her neiated discs that are

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:02.840
<v Speaker 3>that have slid into to that area, or accumulation of

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 3>degenerative you know, build up which we see as well.

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's a combination of those things. We don't yet

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 3>have a regenerative option to open up the canal. We

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>have an option regenerative options, do you know, reduce the

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 3>inflammation if there are symptoms. But at the end of

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 3>the day, sometimes you just need more space, you need

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 3>you need to add an addition to your house. Yeah,

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:29.800
<v Speaker 3>surgically perfect.

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I get it. What are we up to? Josh? Have

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 1>we got Josh? I'm just looking at it. I'm trying

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:39.879
<v Speaker 1>to find them all. Let's go with Rebecca. I think

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>this is maybe a bit different for Rebecca forty seven, Melbourne.

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm perimenopausal and everything feels inflamed and ikey, tif just

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>put up a hand. Is that your sister from another? Mister? Yeah,

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.479
<v Speaker 1>so TIFF's sister from an other the mister Rebecca says

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>on perimenopausal and everything basically feels shit. Does regenerative medicine

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:08.800
<v Speaker 1>interact with hormonologing?

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Good question, It can somewhat. But what we really need

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 3>here is to pull you back from perimenopause with optimal

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 3>youthful hormone restoration bioidentical hormone replacement therapy. The longer you

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 3>have cycles, the longer you will live. Period. If you

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 3>have a.

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Child, no pun intended? Yeah right, yeah, so what you

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>did they you didn't even know it?

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 3>I did it?

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, period, no pun intended.

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 3>No pun intended. So having recovered from that, the you.

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>To a slow Seriously, you might be need to get

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>on some kind of some new tropic both. You mightbe

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>hit the ratan before you jump on close.

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 3>I've got some creatin gummies that we're sampling right here.

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I could Yeah, sure they sure, they cretan absolutely cree

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's what calls them too.

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I probably need one of those. Okay, So, hormone replacements

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:21.319
<v Speaker 3>the key to staying young, delaying perimenopause, to delaying menopause

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 3>because the long term anti inflammatory and cellular health benefits

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 3>will reduce the inflammation will slowly be eight of the cells,

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 3>will promote better tissues. You know, we're seeing all these

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 3>peri and innermenopausal women with hip pain. They get these

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:45.919
<v Speaker 3>tennopathies and glue deal teninopthies, and they call it. They

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 3>go in thinking they have a degenerated hip, but it's

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 3>really just their tenons are drying out. Their skin is

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 3>drying out, their eyes are drying out, their lips are

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 3>drying out. Everything's drying out.

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just having a scroll. So let's do three more.

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:06.919
<v Speaker 1>Does that work for you? Doc? Have you got the time?

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:08.919
<v Speaker 3>I could do thirty more?

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Give you up? All right, So let's go. Josh

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and I we just did Oh oh no, that was Ben.

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>That was Oh another dude. Welcome Josh, I've got elbow

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and wrist pine from years of desk work and lifting.

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Would PRP or stem cells or something else help for

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>overuse injuries?

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean we take a good look at you particularly,

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, we would start out with, you know, peptides.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Potentially PRP is a great option all the way up

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 3>through something in the stem cell realm because you think

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 3>about PRP is a low grade regenerative stem cells and

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 3>exersons being higher in potency. Yeah, there's be great options

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 3>for inflammatory based pain, particularly if we have a target

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:57.839
<v Speaker 3>on MRI.

0:38:58.320 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Right, it really helps us put it in the right place,

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, but that doesn't replace a good rehab program, stretching, strengthening, amtory,

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 3>lifestyle behaving.

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I get it. Steve fifty five Newcastle? Do

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you say Newcastle? Tiff on? Newcastle?

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Newcastle?

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's very posh Newcastle. Hello Steve fifty five from

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Newcastle and welcome back, Welcome back to the you project.

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>That sounded creepy as fuck. Don't do that, I'll get

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 1>a tiff. Do you like games? It's not as bad

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>as that, though, is it?

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Hey, not bring that one out? How are you often? Milita?

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 2>And I had to deal with that voice.

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>They would, how are you tiff? All right, let's go.

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's go with Steve fifty five Newcastle. Come on down,

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>hey guys, thanks, I have had I had a maniscus

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>tare and now my nae cape swelling. Can stem cells

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>repair that maniscus.

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 3>Potentially? Yes, we've we've seen that, and the tear itself

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 3>may not be the issue. The underlying issue may be

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 3>the supporting cellular activity that produce, maintain, and assist the cartilage.

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Because you can have a small tear if you have

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 3>plenty of cartilage. Yeah, So it just depends. If the

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 3>tear is getting caught and your knee is buckling, there

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.439
<v Speaker 3>may be a piece that needs to get trimmed out,

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 3>cleaned up. That may be true as well.

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Well you know what, that was number fourteen, So we've

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>got six to go. Let's bang through them if you've

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:47.800
<v Speaker 1>got time. Yeah, let me join this, all right, Alana

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine Sydney. Is there a risk of cancer or

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>immune reactions from stem cell therapy?

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 3>So we don't really see immune reactions. They are hypothetical.

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Stem cells and particularly stem cell drive signaling like exosomes,

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 3>are immunoprivileged they're sort of neutral to the immune system,

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, you think about it. Otherwise, mothers would reject

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 3>babies if they if they weren't because the babies are

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 3>made all of stem cells most of their nine months.

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 3>So now the cells don't across the placenta, but the

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 3>exosomes do, So the exisomes are really not having any reactions.

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Every now and then we see someone that has a

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 3>low grade fever the first day after a stem cell

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 3>procedure or injection or IV and that that might be

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:38.800
<v Speaker 3>a small reaction, but nothing appreciably. Now on the cancer side,

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm not using generic stem cells or exisomes and people

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 3>with cancer because we just don't know what it'll do.

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 3>It's controversial. Some people say, well, it helps the immune

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 3>system fight the cancer. Some say, well, we don't want

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 3>to take any chances, so of course we don't want

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 3>to take chances. But we have a solution, and then

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 3>we have access to something called natural killer cell exosomes,

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 3>which are from the immune system to help we use

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 3>those with people who have cancer who want to add

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 3>something natural to their regimen or instead of something that's

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.880
<v Speaker 3>harsher like chemotherapy or radiation.

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Perfect there you go. Alana, Rob sixty six, too long

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I've been I think I can answer this, Rob. I

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>think the answer is no. But anyway, I've been told

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm too old for certain perceidurees. Does IgE affect how

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>well stem cells work? I guess it has an impact,

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.280
<v Speaker 1>but probably not too old.

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean listen, when we if we were taking

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 3>your own stem cells from your body. Yeah, yes, the

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:48.959
<v Speaker 3>older ones are less likely to do much, but we're

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 3>using these you know, donated perinatal you know, womb leftovers

0:42:55.840 --> 0:43:00.359
<v Speaker 3>once the baby's born, and they're super youthful. Yeah, they're

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 3>more effective in people with less inflammation, meaning younger people.

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 3>But you know, at in this man said he's in

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<v Speaker 3>the sixties, right, So.

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Rob sixty six, Yeah, sixty six.

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I don't see a sixty six year

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 3>old man being too old for surgery or too old

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 3>for regenerate medicine. It's you know, were we do surgeries

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 3>and people up into their eighties, which in terms of

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 3>muscular skeletal surgeries. So yeah, so I don't know, I

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:36.359
<v Speaker 3>don't know why you were disqualified. Maybe that's an Australian thing,

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 3>but you know you wouldn't be disqualified here unless you

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 3>had specific medical reasons.

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sixty six, Tim is way too young to be

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>excluded from most surgeries that I can think of. Patrick

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, Melbourne, I do Brazilian jiu jitsu. Well, good

0:43:56.400 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>for you. I love jiu jitsu. Please don't her hurt

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>me my joints? Well, he right fucked? Hey Patrick, this

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>is a non swearing program. My joints feel fucked. He

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a man after my own heart. Can regenerative

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>medicine help with long term wear and tear?

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Let me grapple with this one.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Ye, Hey, bring me a needle and thread for my sides?

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 3>They just split again? The answer would be yes again.

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 3>These are these are accumulations of inflammatory degeneration and damage.

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 3>That that's the sweet spot for regenerative medicine. It's you know,

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 3>the most powerful natural anti inflammatory you could think of

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 3>is the womb. Yeah, putting you back in the womb,

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:52.879
<v Speaker 3>that's what this is. So yes, absolutely yes, even people

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 3>who have beat themselves up with jiu jitsu, I can

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 3>say it.

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, men angry, what in pajamas trying to strangle each other? Well,

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 1>all men in pajamas and women, I'll tell you what.

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>There's this lady, young lady. I think her name's Helena something.

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 1>She's like the best female jiu jitsu practitioner whatever you

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:20.360
<v Speaker 1>call them in the world. She's eighteen. Oh my goodness,

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>google her. Everyone have a look at her. She's Helena.

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's Helena a weapon. All right, We've got three

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to go, and these are all a little bit different,

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>thank god, because I thought we were getting a bit repetitious.

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Luisa fifty eight nousa also jealous of where you live? Louisa,

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>how do I know if a clinic offerings stem cells

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 1>is legitimate and not just selling snake oil?

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:49.359
<v Speaker 3>Great question, Love the question. So first have a talk

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 3>with the practitioner. Do you feel that you're in front

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 3>of someone with experience who's educated. Number two? Did they overpromise?

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Did they say they could cure a treat, a disease

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 3>or condition? Really, what you want to say, here's an option,

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 3>here's the literature on it. I would hope that you

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 3>get a similar or better response. Would you like to

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 3>try it? Here are the other options to compare to

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, you also want to know the source of

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 3>the biologics, the biologics being the stem cells or exosomes.

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Or PRP or whatever you're getting, where did it come from?

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Tell me about the population the donations. Tell me about

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 3>the certification. Show me a certificate of analysis. I want

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.839
<v Speaker 3>to see the testing on it. So for example, when

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:35.040
<v Speaker 3>we use you know, amniotic fluid, which is rich in

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:38.360
<v Speaker 3>exosomes and growth factors, we have a four page testing.

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:43.280
<v Speaker 3>We show each patient every virus you know, etc. Tested.

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 3>We draw from a pool of donors that have not

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 3>been vaccinated for COVID. We have these are screened and

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 3>the first trimester for their health. We want healthy donors,

0:46:56.760 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 3>non smokers, non drinkers, yeah, during the seet. So we

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:04.399
<v Speaker 3>really are improving the quality of the biologic. So ask

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 3>all these questions. If they won't show you or they

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 3>can't show you where they got them from, then then

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:13.720
<v Speaker 3>there's a quality issue you have to be concerned about.

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 3>And the number number of cells you know, you want

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 3>fifty or one hundred million cells and xisomes we talk

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 3>in hundreds of billions to trillions. So if someone offers you,

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, fifty billion xisomes, you know I could sneeze

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 3>one hundred billion, So that's nothing.

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, all right. Second last one, Athan, who is

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 1>from I almost can't pronounce it. I'm just going to

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:50.840
<v Speaker 1>go South Australia shout out to you, Ethan. What's the

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 1>difference between pay I pay stem cells and exercimes? And

0:47:58.040 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 1>how do I I don't know if this is a

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 1>good quest, but anyway, how do I know which one

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I need?

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Well? The comparison analysis starts at the very bottom of

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 3>the lowest potential. Lowest efficacy is PRP. That doesn't mean

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 3>it can't work. You had like just a minor tennis

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 3>elbow ten to nins or something that might be perfect.

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Typically PRPCES comes from your own blood. It's platelet rich plasma,

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 3>and so it's less expensive because you bring your own supplies,

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 3>so to speak. But you usually have to do it

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 3>two or three times, and you have that hassle of

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 3>drawing the blood from yourself and being reinjected. There's nothing

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 3>wrong with it. And then moving up from there would

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:43.760
<v Speaker 3>be something on a stem cell level. So stem cells

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 3>and stem cell derived exosomes are in the same genre.

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, stem cells don't do the work, they deliver

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 3>the exosomes. I like to go right to the exosomes

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 3>because you get at least the same benefit from the

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 3>stem cells, but you don't have other people's DNA. The

0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 3>exostomes travel better through tissue because are much smaller, they

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 3>cross the blood brain barrier, et cetera. The cost of

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:08.879
<v Speaker 3>exisomes that was less than stem cells because amniotic fluid

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 3>is so much more abundant than in the midical cord

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:14.959
<v Speaker 3>source of stem cells. So I'm a big fan of exosomes.

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I think a single exosome treatment is superior to three

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 3>PRP treatments generally speaking.

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 3>So if you're comparing the cost and the efficacy, relative

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 3>efficacy and things, you know, I'm an exosome fan, So

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:33.839
<v Speaker 3>what's right for you might be a discussion with your

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 3>clinician and what they have access to.

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, perfect, Oh this is funny. Last one is from Karen,

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 1>who's sixty two and is from Ballarat. Well, Karen, I'm

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>sixty two and I was born in Ballarat. Maybe we

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 1>went to daycare together or I don't know, maybe kindergarten.

0:49:56.480 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 1>If for generative medicine really works, why isn't it standardized

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 1>in hospitals?

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.280
<v Speaker 3>That seems like answer that.

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, may either that seems like a whole episode.

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, here in America, you'd be crushing big pharma. You'd

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 3>be crushing big implant. You'd be crushing regulations set up

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:22.399
<v Speaker 3>to support those money making ventures.

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, so I guess commercially and financially and for

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, not us three, but practically it's

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not a regenerative medicine would be a problem. It

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>would be a problem for a lot of people if

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:42.839
<v Speaker 1>it if one it worked, which it does, and two

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 1>if it got any more kind of momentum that it

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 1>currently has, it's probably already a pain in the ass

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>for some people, so to speak.

0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 3>We're already seeing that in the peptad realm, the big

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.720
<v Speaker 3>goliath Eli Lilly is giving us trouble with use of retitrutade,

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 3>which is a GP agonist, a peptide. So because of

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.799
<v Speaker 3>course they have like they must have invented all molecules

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:08.280
<v Speaker 3>or something.

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, how did they even do that? Uh,

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:15.279
<v Speaker 1>you're the best. How do people find you, doc? How

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>do they connect with you? And uh, maybe learn more

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>about what you do.

0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm exclusively on the U project. Yes, so that's where

0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 3>you find me. But thank you for that, thank you

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 3>for having me, and thank you everybody for the questions.

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.239
<v Speaker 3>I love those let's do that again. That was fun.

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:35.600
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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to send the good doc while

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you're on the back of this and you're fucking just

0:51:57.360 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>dripping with anticipation, I'm not sure that means actually having

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:08.319
<v Speaker 1>reviewed that, it sounds quite sexual. I did not mean that.

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:15.400
<v Speaker 1>So let's just remove dripping and excited with antis all right,

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll be quiet whatever. If you want to leave the

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:22.520
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0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.480
<v Speaker 1>If you're not a member, become a member. There's no hooks,

0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:28.359
<v Speaker 1>catchers or agendas or costs or fucking upsell or on cell.

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 1>There's no cell. Just jump in the group and leave

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>your question. I'll open a little file and I'll chuck

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it in that for next time the doc and us

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 1>are together. Awesome, Well say goodbye off here, but always

0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 1>good to catch up with you. Appreciate you. I hope

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six is an amazing year for you. Personally

0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and professionally, and that great things happen.

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:54.240
<v Speaker 3>And to you both and all your listeners, it's always

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:55.319
<v Speaker 3>great talking to you. Thank you.

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Can I ask a closing question on createam just because

0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:04.000
<v Speaker 2>you popped a little gummy earlier, yep, so f now

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 2>my gap does not tolerate creatine in larger dose, not

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 2>even in standard doses the way it used to. What

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:14.439
<v Speaker 2>would cause that change?

0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure it caused the change. You know, the

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 3>gut biome changes, and you know, you may want to

0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:23.160
<v Speaker 3>add some probiotics, see if you can reset some of

0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 3>the biome. Maybe eat some fermented foods, and you know,

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 3>space your creatine out throughout the day in one gram

0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:36.719
<v Speaker 3>gummies like looks like I'm doing on my desk, but

0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:39.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying. I got listen. Creatine's tough, but we need

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:42.239
<v Speaker 3>to have to try all kinds of different gummies. I've

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:44.759
<v Speaker 3>got these candies now I'm trying, and.

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 2>No good for me. I've got no portion control when

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 2>it comes to gummies and candies or anything sweet. I

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:51.760
<v Speaker 2>will eat the whole bucket.

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the powder's rough, you know, I put it in

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 3>my coffee, but it's it's not tasty.

0:53:58.360 --> 0:53:59.719
<v Speaker 1>So just have it with.

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Four think, yeah, I just have the plane. It's got

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 2>no taste. I've got a really plain powder. It's great.

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Speaker 1>If you know what you need. When someone when doctor

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Jeffin invents creating cookies, your fucking you're at the front

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 1>of the line, like what chocolate creatine cookies you welcome world,

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 1>or dark chocolate and raspberry creating cookies? Oh far? Come on? Yeah,

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:29.880
<v Speaker 1>look at you both pathic.

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 3>So if your listeners can all rite in now and

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:37.080
<v Speaker 3>help us name that, yeah, we'll brand. We'll brand it

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 3>next week.

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 1>And that could be our first commercial end forever.

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Try some Try some different probiotics, you know, change up

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 3>your biome a little bit, you know, and and see

0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 3>if that's something, and then spread it out, spread it

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:53.759
<v Speaker 3>out throughout the day. If you're taking all of it

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 3>at once, that's probably too much for your gut.

0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Or just drink a cup of cement and harden the

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 1>fuck up. We'll go to the room mirrors and have

0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:01.880
<v Speaker 1>a good look at yourself. All right.

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:05.720
<v Speaker 2>You wank you for your input.

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Halts always always supportive, always loving, you know. It's it's

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:14.319
<v Speaker 1>like I used to say to my clients at the

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:17.799
<v Speaker 1>gym doc when they'd complain, I'd say, if you don't

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 1>want me to tell you what to do, don't fucking

0:55:19.600 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 1>come here, because this is how it works. They're like,

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:24.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do this. I'm like, don't come

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:27.919
<v Speaker 1>this is what we're doing. Thanks Doc, see you next time.

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.