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Speaker 1: it's vanishing. You're probably not going to get a root

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Speaker 1: Jeff officially, Happy New Year, Happy post Christmas. How are you, buddy?

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Speaker 3: I'm well, happy, happy to you and Tiff as well

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Speaker 3: all the exciting developments here. I think we should start

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or at least standing on your head. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Steve Corell, you're on fire today. Ah. Nina.

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Speaker 3: Now that's separate from a disease called rheumatoid arthritis. That's

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Speaker 3: a genetic disease, and although both can lead to inflammation,

432
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Speaker 3: and that inflammation causes degeneration of joints. First, usually the

433
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Speaker 3: cartilage layer. And as you lose that cartilage layer, and

434
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Speaker 3: the word for that is chondro Malaysia, you lose the

435
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Speaker 3: cartilage layer, and then you lose the cushion and things

436
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: start to hurt because bone is rubbing on bone at

437
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Speaker 3: some point, which is sort of the ends age of that.

438
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Speaker 3: So let's talk about cartilage production when you are a

439
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: fetus in Craig, you remember being a fetus of course.

440
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Speaker 1: Nine months off. I fucking loved it. I was so comfy.

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00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: The the you're you're producing cartilage, you're making the joints,

442
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Speaker 3: and you're doing it from a set of cells that

443
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Speaker 3: live in what are called the growth plates of the bone.

444
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Speaker 3: So that that concept is the bone makes the cartilage.

445
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Speaker 3: So when you're getting injections, the best injections to restimulate

446
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: that factory is a bone injection, not a cartilage injection.

447
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: Cartilage is barely cellular. It's it's basically biological rubber. So Tiff,

448
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: just like hair grows from the follicles in your scalp,

449
00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: I excluded you, Craig. The follicle grows, the fall produces

450
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: the protein of hair. Yeah, he's never gonna let me

451
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: on the show again, is he? Oh?

452
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: I will die back. In therapy for Johmbar.

453
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Speaker 3: The bone produces the protein of cartilage. So if you're

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Speaker 3: getting injections of regenerative injections into the cartilage space that

455
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: has the lesser outcome than injecting the bone. So the

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Speaker 3: French literature has proven this, and a lot of what

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Speaker 3: we do follows some of that literature. They have over

458
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Speaker 3: fifteen year follow up comparing bone injections to cartlage injections

459
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Speaker 3: in the same patient. One knee gets the bone, one

460
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Speaker 3: knee gets the cartilage. Over eighty two percent at fifteen

461
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: years having had the bone injection are still able. They're

462
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Speaker 3: doing well enough to avoid a surgery, whereas the cartilage injected.

463
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Speaker 3: The joint injected group what we call intra articular group

464
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Speaker 3: now only twenty percent of fifteen years. So we know

465
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Speaker 3: that the party is in the bone edge, in the

466
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Speaker 3: growth plate, and that's why we inject the bone. Now

467
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: that sounds painful, but we do sedate people for that procedure.

468
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: So back to the underlying question, Yes, there there are

469
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Speaker 3: approaches we do. I could do quite a bit of

470
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Speaker 3: hip and join injections to help people avoid surgery. But

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Speaker 3: when we say joint, I'm talking about the bone above

472
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Speaker 3: and below the joint.

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Speaker 1: I want to say the needle that gets injected into

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Speaker 1: a bone that must be imagine it's.

475
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Speaker 3: A little old. I don't have one here, handy, but

476
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Speaker 3: it's a little drill, little.

477
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Speaker 1: Plastic that might so much bitter. She's out, she's like,

478
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: fuck you drill. Wow. So it's a little drill. So

479
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: you drill it in and then you put the drug

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Speaker 1: in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the drill inserts a needle and bone needle. It's

482
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Speaker 3: a fifteen engaged needle. And then I do it under fluoroscopy,

483
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Speaker 3: which is X ray guidance. Target it on what I've

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Speaker 3: seen on the MRI. So I match up the entry point,

485
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: the depths, the angles. I know exactly where to go.

486
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Speaker 3: Then I deliver the the you know biologics. Usually a

487
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Speaker 3: stem cell derived exosome amniotic fluid has growth factors that

488
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: has stem cell signaling, and and that's when we see

489
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: really wonderful things start to happen on the In the

490
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Speaker 3: vast majority of the cases, improve cartilage, improve, reduced pain,

491
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Speaker 3: reduced inflammation, bigger smiles, more activity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. If you and I should book in a week

493
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Speaker 1: either with the good doc, it might be bringing your

494
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Speaker 1: bloke along. He's pretty fucked and old as well. He's like,

495
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: he's not the poster boy for broken Uh, and uh,

496
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Speaker 1: you know we could just book him up for a week.

497
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: We'd have to you'd have to sell a kidney and

498
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Speaker 1: not have to sell I don't know something, wouldn't you

499
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: could sell that? We could go what do he said?

500
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: We could go and get an assessment and then get

501
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: a pro and then just pop back once a year

502
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: for a fucking top up for it might be cheaper

503
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: just to fly him. Oh no, we can't do it

504
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: in Australia. Everything's illegal. This podcast probably illegal. All right,

505
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: let's move on. Ben. Oh we've got a dude and

506
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: he's thirty one. Hey Ben, thanks for being part of

507
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: my very old listening group. No, not that ot Ben

508
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Speaker 1: thirty one, Sydney. I am a competitive runner, of course

509
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: you are. With recurring hamstring tears can stem cells, strengthen

510
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: tissue so it stops reinjuring.

511
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a role there. It would suppress the inflammation.

512
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: We would probably stack some peptides to help the courtlage

513
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: structures the muscles in that area. You know, some really

514
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: good rehabilitative activities you could learn to do for hamstring stretching,

515
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: because we want to have more range. You know, runners

516
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: get tight, they get tight hamstrings, and it's it's there,

517
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: it's their albatross. In fact, I would say their hamstring

518
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: could be their achilles.

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Speaker 1: Heel, oh look at what you did there? Yeah wow,

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00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: he truly is Steve Carrell tonight. Okay, so this is

521
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Speaker 1: from Diane who's in Hobart. Do you know where Hobart is, Docicer,

522
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: Hobart is the capital of Tasmania, down the bottom of Aussie,

523
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Speaker 1: down the bottom of us. Got it's not lon Sston,

524
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Speaker 1: is it? It is Hobart. Yeah. I just had a

525
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: moment there where I was guessing myself that's where Tiff

526
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Speaker 1: was born.

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Speaker 2: That's why she's got that Tazzy is, but not Hobart.

528
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: Or well Tazzy. I mean it's only about fucking three

529
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Speaker 1: miles long, so that's not I mean, it's like it's

530
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: like a town. No, it's beautiful. I love Tazzy. Diane

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Speaker 1: sixty three Hobart. I've got spinal canals. Well she doesn't

532
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: say canal. I chuck that in there. I've got spinal

533
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: stenosis and numbness in my legs. Is that something we're

534
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: generative medicine can help? Or is surgery the only option? So?

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Speaker 1: So stenosis is basically the narrowing of the like the

536
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Speaker 1: passage where the nerves go through. As I understand it, Doc,

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00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: and so ergo, numbness in her legs. What are your thoughts?

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00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: Well, we will speak generally here because she didn't specify

539
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: if the numbness, sorry, if the stenesis is in the

540
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 3: lower spine, lumber spine or the knight because you can

541
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: have stenosis in the neck affecting the fibers all the

542
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: way down. But let's assume it is a lower back

543
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: issue with next next question is what's causing a stenosis?

544
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Speaker 3: Is she born with it? Some people are born with

545
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: the narrow canal to begin with, and then or is

546
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: it acquired? Did she develop her neiated discs that are

547
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: that have slid into to that area, or accumulation of

548
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: degenerative you know, build up which we see as well.

549
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a combination of those things. We don't yet

550
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: have a regenerative option to open up the canal. We

551
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: have an option regenerative options, do you know, reduce the

552
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: inflammation if there are symptoms. But at the end of

553
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 3: the day, sometimes you just need more space, you need

554
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: you need to add an addition to your house. Yeah,

555
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 3: surgically perfect.

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Speaker 1: I get it. What are we up to? Josh? Have

557
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: we got Josh? I'm just looking at it. I'm trying

558
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: to find them all. Let's go with Rebecca. I think

559
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: this is maybe a bit different for Rebecca forty seven, Melbourne.

560
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm perimenopausal and everything feels inflamed and ikey, tif just

561
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: put up a hand. Is that your sister from another? Mister? Yeah,

562
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 1: so TIFF's sister from an other the mister Rebecca says

563
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: on perimenopausal and everything basically feels shit. Does regenerative medicine

564
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: interact with hormonologing?

565
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: Good question, It can somewhat. But what we really need

566
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: here is to pull you back from perimenopause with optimal

567
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: youthful hormone restoration bioidentical hormone replacement therapy. The longer you

568
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: have cycles, the longer you will live. Period. If you

569
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Speaker 3: have a.

570
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Speaker 1: Child, no pun intended? Yeah right, yeah, so what you

571
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: did they you didn't even know it?

572
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: I did it?

573
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, period, no pun intended.

574
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: No pun intended. So having recovered from that, the you.

575
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Speaker 1: To a slow Seriously, you might be need to get

576
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Speaker 1: on some kind of some new tropic both. You mightbe

577
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: hit the ratan before you jump on close.

578
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: I've got some creatin gummies that we're sampling right here.

579
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Speaker 1: I could Yeah, sure they sure, they cretan absolutely cree

580
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: and that's what calls them too.

581
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: I probably need one of those. Okay, So, hormone replacements

582
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: the key to staying young, delaying perimenopause, to delaying menopause

583
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: because the long term anti inflammatory and cellular health benefits

584
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 3: will reduce the inflammation will slowly be eight of the cells,

585
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: will promote better tissues. You know, we're seeing all these

586
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 3: peri and innermenopausal women with hip pain. They get these

587
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 3: tennopathies and glue deal teninopthies, and they call it. They

588
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: go in thinking they have a degenerated hip, but it's

589
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: really just their tenons are drying out. Their skin is

590
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: drying out, their eyes are drying out, their lips are

591
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: drying out. Everything's drying out.

592
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just having a scroll. So let's do three more.

593
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 1: Does that work for you? Doc? Have you got the time?

594
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 3: I could do thirty more?

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00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: Oh? Give you up? All right, So let's go. Josh

596
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: and I we just did Oh oh no, that was Ben.

597
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: That was Oh another dude. Welcome Josh, I've got elbow

598
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: and wrist pine from years of desk work and lifting.

599
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Would PRP or stem cells or something else help for

600
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: overuse injuries?

601
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we take a good look at you particularly,

602
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: but yeah, we would start out with, you know, peptides.

603
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: Potentially PRP is a great option all the way up

604
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: through something in the stem cell realm because you think

605
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: about PRP is a low grade regenerative stem cells and

606
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: exersons being higher in potency. Yeah, there's be great options

607
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: for inflammatory based pain, particularly if we have a target

608
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: on MRI.

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00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: Right, it really helps us put it in the right place,

611
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: you know, but that doesn't replace a good rehab program, stretching, strengthening, amtory,

612
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: lifestyle behaving.

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00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I get it. Steve fifty five Newcastle? Do

614
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: you say Newcastle? Tiff on? Newcastle?

615
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: Newcastle?

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00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: Okay, that's very posh Newcastle. Hello Steve fifty five from

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00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Newcastle and welcome back, Welcome back to the you project.

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Speaker 1: That sounded creepy as fuck. Don't do that, I'll get

619
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: a tiff. Do you like games? It's not as bad

620
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: as that, though, is it?

621
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Speaker 2: Hey, not bring that one out? How are you often? Milita?

622
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: And I had to deal with that voice.

623
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Speaker 1: They would, how are you tiff? All right, let's go.

624
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: Let's go with Steve fifty five Newcastle. Come on down,

625
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: hey guys, thanks, I have had I had a maniscus

626
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: tare and now my nae cape swelling. Can stem cells

627
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: repair that maniscus.

628
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: Potentially? Yes, we've we've seen that, and the tear itself

629
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Speaker 3: may not be the issue. The underlying issue may be

630
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: the supporting cellular activity that produce, maintain, and assist the cartilage.

631
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Speaker 3: Because you can have a small tear if you have

632
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: plenty of cartilage. Yeah, So it just depends. If the

633
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Speaker 3: tear is getting caught and your knee is buckling, there

634
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 3: may be a piece that needs to get trimmed out,

635
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: cleaned up. That may be true as well.

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Speaker 1: Well you know what, that was number fourteen, So we've

637
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Speaker 1: got six to go. Let's bang through them if you've

638
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: got time. Yeah, let me join this, all right, Alana

639
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Speaker 1: twenty nine Sydney. Is there a risk of cancer or

640
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: immune reactions from stem cell therapy?

641
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: So we don't really see immune reactions. They are hypothetical.

642
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: Stem cells and particularly stem cell drive signaling like exosomes,

643
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: are immunoprivileged they're sort of neutral to the immune system,

644
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Speaker 3: you know, you think about it. Otherwise, mothers would reject

645
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Speaker 3: babies if they if they weren't because the babies are

646
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: made all of stem cells most of their nine months.

647
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: So now the cells don't across the placenta, but the

648
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: exosomes do, So the exisomes are really not having any reactions.

649
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 3: Every now and then we see someone that has a

650
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: low grade fever the first day after a stem cell

651
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: procedure or injection or IV and that that might be

652
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 3: a small reaction, but nothing appreciably. Now on the cancer side,

653
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Speaker 3: I'm not using generic stem cells or exisomes and people

654
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Speaker 3: with cancer because we just don't know what it'll do.

655
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: It's controversial. Some people say, well, it helps the immune

656
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Speaker 3: system fight the cancer. Some say, well, we don't want

657
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: to take any chances, so of course we don't want

658
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: to take chances. But we have a solution, and then

659
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: we have access to something called natural killer cell exosomes,

660
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Speaker 3: which are from the immune system to help we use

661
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: those with people who have cancer who want to add

662
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Speaker 3: something natural to their regimen or instead of something that's

663
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Speaker 3: harsher like chemotherapy or radiation.

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Speaker 1: Perfect there you go. Alana, Rob sixty six, too long

665
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Speaker 1: I've been I think I can answer this, Rob. I

666
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: think the answer is no. But anyway, I've been told

667
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm too old for certain perceidurees. Does IgE affect how

668
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: well stem cells work? I guess it has an impact,

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Speaker 1: but probably not too old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean listen, when we if we were taking

671
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: your own stem cells from your body. Yeah, yes, the

672
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 3: older ones are less likely to do much, but we're

673
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Speaker 3: using these you know, donated perinatal you know, womb leftovers

674
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: once the baby's born, and they're super youthful. Yeah, they're

675
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: more effective in people with less inflammation, meaning younger people.

676
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: But you know, at in this man said he's in

677
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Speaker 3: the sixties, right, So.

678
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Speaker 1: Rob sixty six, Yeah, sixty six.

679
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Speaker 3: So you know, I don't see a sixty six year

680
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Speaker 3: old man being too old for surgery or too old

681
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Speaker 3: for regenerate medicine. It's you know, were we do surgeries

682
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Speaker 3: and people up into their eighties, which in terms of

683
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Speaker 3: muscular skeletal surgeries. So yeah, so I don't know, I

684
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Speaker 3: don't know why you were disqualified. Maybe that's an Australian thing,

685
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: but you know you wouldn't be disqualified here unless you

686
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Speaker 3: had specific medical reasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty six, Tim is way too young to be

688
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: excluded from most surgeries that I can think of. Patrick

689
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: thirty seven, Melbourne, I do Brazilian jiu jitsu. Well, good

690
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: for you. I love jiu jitsu. Please don't her hurt

691
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: me my joints? Well, he right fucked? Hey Patrick, this

692
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: is a non swearing program. My joints feel fucked. He

693
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: sounds like a man after my own heart. Can regenerative

694
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: medicine help with long term wear and tear?

695
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: Let me grapple with this one.

696
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: Ye, Hey, bring me a needle and thread for my sides?

697
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: They just split again? The answer would be yes again.

698
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: These are these are accumulations of inflammatory degeneration and damage.

699
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: That that's the sweet spot for regenerative medicine. It's you know,

700
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: the most powerful natural anti inflammatory you could think of

701
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: is the womb. Yeah, putting you back in the womb,

702
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 3: that's what this is. So yes, absolutely yes, even people

703
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: who have beat themselves up with jiu jitsu, I can

704
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 3: say it.

705
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: Yes, men angry, what in pajamas trying to strangle each other? Well,

706
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: all men in pajamas and women, I'll tell you what.

707
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: There's this lady, young lady. I think her name's Helena something.

708
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: She's like the best female jiu jitsu practitioner whatever you

709
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: call them in the world. She's eighteen. Oh my goodness,

710
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: google her. Everyone have a look at her. She's Helena.

711
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Helena a weapon. All right, We've got three

712
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: to go, and these are all a little bit different,

713
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: thank god, because I thought we were getting a bit repetitious.

714
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: Luisa fifty eight nousa also jealous of where you live? Louisa,

715
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: how do I know if a clinic offerings stem cells

716
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: is legitimate and not just selling snake oil?

717
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 3: Great question, Love the question. So first have a talk

718
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: with the practitioner. Do you feel that you're in front

719
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: of someone with experience who's educated. Number two? Did they overpromise?

720
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: Did they say they could cure a treat, a disease

721
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: or condition? Really, what you want to say, here's an option,

722
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: here's the literature on it. I would hope that you

723
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: get a similar or better response. Would you like to

724
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: try it? Here are the other options to compare to

725
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: You know, you also want to know the source of

726
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: the biologics, the biologics being the stem cells or exosomes.

727
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: Or PRP or whatever you're getting, where did it come from?

728
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: Tell me about the population the donations. Tell me about

729
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: the certification. Show me a certificate of analysis. I want

730
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 3: to see the testing on it. So for example, when

731
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: we use you know, amniotic fluid, which is rich in

732
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 3: exosomes and growth factors, we have a four page testing.

733
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 3: We show each patient every virus you know, etc. Tested.

734
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: We draw from a pool of donors that have not

735
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Speaker 3: been vaccinated for COVID. We have these are screened and

736
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 3: the first trimester for their health. We want healthy donors,

737
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: non smokers, non drinkers, yeah, during the seet. So we

738
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 3: really are improving the quality of the biologic. So ask

739
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: all these questions. If they won't show you or they

740
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: can't show you where they got them from, then then

741
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 3: there's a quality issue you have to be concerned about.

742
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: And the number number of cells you know, you want

743
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: fifty or one hundred million cells and xisomes we talk

744
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: in hundreds of billions to trillions. So if someone offers you,

745
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 3: you know, fifty billion xisomes, you know I could sneeze

746
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: one hundred billion, So that's nothing.

747
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right. Second last one, Athan, who is

748
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: from I almost can't pronounce it. I'm just going to

749
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: go South Australia shout out to you, Ethan. What's the

750
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: difference between pay I pay stem cells and exercimes? And

751
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: how do I I don't know if this is a

752
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: good quest, but anyway, how do I know which one

753
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: I need?

754
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: Well? The comparison analysis starts at the very bottom of

755
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 3: the lowest potential. Lowest efficacy is PRP. That doesn't mean

756
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: it can't work. You had like just a minor tennis

757
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: elbow ten to nins or something that might be perfect.

758
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 3: Typically PRPCES comes from your own blood. It's platelet rich plasma,

759
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: and so it's less expensive because you bring your own supplies,

760
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: so to speak. But you usually have to do it

761
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: two or three times, and you have that hassle of

762
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 3: drawing the blood from yourself and being reinjected. There's nothing

763
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: wrong with it. And then moving up from there would

764
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 3: be something on a stem cell level. So stem cells

765
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: and stem cell derived exosomes are in the same genre.

766
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: You know, stem cells don't do the work, they deliver

767
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: the exosomes. I like to go right to the exosomes

768
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: because you get at least the same benefit from the

769
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: stem cells, but you don't have other people's DNA. The

770
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: exostomes travel better through tissue because are much smaller, they

771
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: cross the blood brain barrier, et cetera. The cost of

772
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 3: exisomes that was less than stem cells because amniotic fluid

773
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: is so much more abundant than in the midical cord

774
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 3: source of stem cells. So I'm a big fan of exosomes.

775
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: I think a single exosome treatment is superior to three

776
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: PRP treatments generally speaking.

777
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

778
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: So if you're comparing the cost and the efficacy, relative

779
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: efficacy and things, you know, I'm an exosome fan, So

780
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 3: what's right for you might be a discussion with your

781
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: clinician and what they have access to.

782
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect, Oh this is funny. Last one is from Karen,

783
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: who's sixty two and is from Ballarat. Well, Karen, I'm

784
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Speaker 1: sixty two and I was born in Ballarat. Maybe we

785
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: went to daycare together or I don't know, maybe kindergarten.

786
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: If for generative medicine really works, why isn't it standardized

787
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: in hospitals?

788
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 3: That seems like answer that.

789
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, may either that seems like a whole episode.

790
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 3: Well, here in America, you'd be crushing big pharma. You'd

791
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 3: be crushing big implant. You'd be crushing regulations set up

792
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 3: to support those money making ventures.

793
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so I guess commercially and financially and for

794
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people, not us three, but practically it's

795
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: it's not a regenerative medicine would be a problem. It

796
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: would be a problem for a lot of people if

797
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: it if one it worked, which it does, and two

798
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Speaker 1: if it got any more kind of momentum that it

799
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: currently has, it's probably already a pain in the ass

800
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Speaker 1: for some people, so to speak.

801
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Speaker 3: We're already seeing that in the peptad realm, the big

802
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 3: goliath Eli Lilly is giving us trouble with use of retitrutade,

803
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: which is a GP agonist, a peptide. So because of

804
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 3: course they have like they must have invented all molecules

805
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 3: or something.

806
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, how did they even do that? Uh,

807
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: you're the best. How do people find you, doc? How

808
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: do they connect with you? And uh, maybe learn more

809
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: about what you do.

810
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: I'm exclusively on the U project. Yes, so that's where

811
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Speaker 3: you find me. But thank you for that, thank you

812
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: for having me, and thank you everybody for the questions.

813
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: I love those let's do that again. That was fun.

814
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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, they find you find us at re celebrate

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Speaker 3: our e C E L L E b R A

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Speaker 3: T e re celebrate dot com, at re celebrate on Instagram.

817
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Speaker 3: That's our LinkedIn, pinterest x formerly, Twitter, YouTube, metube, everything.

818
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Speaker 3: That's where you find us, all the tubes.

819
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Speaker 1: So if you want to send the good doc while

820
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Speaker 1: you're on the back of this and you're fucking just

821
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Speaker 1: dripping with anticipation, I'm not sure that means actually having

822
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: reviewed that, it sounds quite sexual. I did not mean that.

823
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Speaker 1: So let's just remove dripping and excited with antis all right,

824
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: I'll be quiet whatever. If you want to leave the

825
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: doc a question, go to the you project Facebook page.

826
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Speaker 1: If you're not a member, become a member. There's no hooks,

827
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Speaker 1: catchers or agendas or costs or fucking upsell or on cell.

828
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Speaker 1: There's no cell. Just jump in the group and leave

829
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Speaker 1: your question. I'll open a little file and I'll chuck

830
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Speaker 1: it in that for next time the doc and us

831
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Speaker 1: are together. Awesome, Well say goodbye off here, but always

832
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: good to catch up with you. Appreciate you. I hope

833
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six is an amazing year for you. Personally

834
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Speaker 1: and professionally, and that great things happen.

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Speaker 3: And to you both and all your listeners, it's always

836
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Speaker 3: great talking to you. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask a closing question on createam just because

838
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: you popped a little gummy earlier, yep, so f now

839
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: my gap does not tolerate creatine in larger dose, not

840
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: even in standard doses the way it used to. What

841
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 2: would cause that change?

842
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it caused the change. You know, the

843
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: gut biome changes, and you know, you may want to

844
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: add some probiotics, see if you can reset some of

845
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: the biome. Maybe eat some fermented foods, and you know,

846
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: space your creatine out throughout the day in one gram

847
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 3: gummies like looks like I'm doing on my desk, but

848
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 3: I'm trying. I got listen. Creatine's tough, but we need

849
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 3: to have to try all kinds of different gummies. I've

850
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Speaker 3: got these candies now I'm trying, and.

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Speaker 2: No good for me. I've got no portion control when

852
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: it comes to gummies and candies or anything sweet. I

853
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 2: will eat the whole bucket.

854
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, the powder's rough, you know, I put it in

855
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: my coffee, but it's it's not tasty.

856
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Speaker 1: So just have it with.

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Speaker 2: Four think, yeah, I just have the plane. It's got

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Speaker 2: no taste. I've got a really plain powder. It's great.

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Speaker 1: If you know what you need. When someone when doctor

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Speaker 1: Jeffin invents creating cookies, your fucking you're at the front

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Speaker 1: of the line, like what chocolate creatine cookies you welcome world,

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Speaker 1: or dark chocolate and raspberry creating cookies? Oh far? Come on? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: look at you both pathic.

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Speaker 3: So if your listeners can all rite in now and

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Speaker 3: help us name that, yeah, we'll brand. We'll brand it

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Speaker 3: next week.

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Speaker 1: And that could be our first commercial end forever.

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Speaker 3: Try some Try some different probiotics, you know, change up

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Speaker 3: your biome a little bit, you know, and and see

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Speaker 3: if that's something, and then spread it out, spread it

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Speaker 3: out throughout the day. If you're taking all of it

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Speaker 3: at once, that's probably too much for your gut.

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Speaker 1: Or just drink a cup of cement and harden the

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Speaker 1: fuck up. We'll go to the room mirrors and have

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Speaker 1: a good look at yourself. All right.

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Speaker 2: You wank you for your input.

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Speaker 1: Halts always always supportive, always loving, you know. It's it's

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Speaker 1: like I used to say to my clients at the

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Speaker 1: gym doc when they'd complain, I'd say, if you don't

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Speaker 1: want me to tell you what to do, don't fucking

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Speaker 1: come here, because this is how it works. They're like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do this. I'm like, don't come

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Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. Thanks Doc, see you next time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.