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Speaker 1: The big Footy issues from every angle, dissected by a

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Speaker 1: team that follows the game closer than anyone else wherever

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Speaker 1: to the AFL. This is the Fox Footy Podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's a triple tribunal treat week with three cases to

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Speaker 2: be heard in three hours. Supposedly we have to get

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Speaker 2: excited about something for the Race for the eight and

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Speaker 2: the Race for the Wooden Spoon. Even aren't the most

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Speaker 2: appetizing right now, especially if you're a Sydney fan for

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Speaker 2: their brave win against Sydney A Saint Kilda rather seems

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Speaker 2: ultimately all for nothing. We'll have the run home State

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Speaker 2: of Play, plus all your favorite regular segments F or F,

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Speaker 2: mailbag sheets, tips cups. It's all coming up on the

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Speaker 2: Fox Footy Podcast. Ben Waterworth with you, as is the

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Speaker 2: Lord of the report Card, Max Lordon. Hello MAXI, Why

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Speaker 2: am I?

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Speaker 3: The Lord of the report report.

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Speaker 2: Card goes through Max before publishing, so this is we

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Speaker 2: go inside the editorial process the WhatsApp. So whoever's on

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Speaker 2: Monday morning sends it to the WhatsApp group so that

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Speaker 2: I can pick holes in all of the grades. Oh well,

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Speaker 2: everyone picks holes in it. I think you're a chief

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Speaker 2: hole picker, though.

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Speaker 3: I would say so, I've been known that for chief

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Speaker 3: help officers. Back to COVID time, it's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon to Brett Sutton if he's listening and also

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Speaker 2: joining us. Is the man hopeful to get on the

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Speaker 2: schnitz sort o tonight? Will Forkner?

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Speaker 4: Hello, Fork I'm more than hopeful, Ben, afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Everyone need to get the card off you, Ben before

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Speaker 3: you go to I reckon, Yes, work that out exciting times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just three tribe wings.

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Speaker 2: Can't waste five pm, six pm, No, seven pm.

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Speaker 3: No, it's I have to assume that someone new has

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Speaker 3: done the match review, press release and pick those times

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Speaker 3: because there is no world in which I don't think

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Speaker 3: any tribunal hearing has ever lasted an hour.

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Speaker 2: So Riley Beveridge wrote a great piece on AFL Media

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Speaker 2: breaking down how the chairercase in particular will be broken

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Speaker 2: down and skill spend a little bit of time on

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Speaker 2: this because it's unique. It's the first time with the

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Speaker 2: umpire contact crackdown that a player has been referred director

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Speaker 2: of the tribunal. Riley reported that it's in a two

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Speaker 2: step process. The first part will be determined whether he

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Speaker 2: is guilty of umpire contact from Thursday night he bumped

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Speaker 2: into robbo' gorman the umpire in the Carlton Brisbane game.

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Speaker 3: And he could also plead guilty, he could.

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Speaker 2: Play guilty, So that would be a very quick step

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Speaker 2: one of the two step process. And then what happens

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Speaker 2: is in the second step is that the jury is

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Speaker 2: then shown the previous three incidents in the past two

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Speaker 2: years in involving Adam Chayrah, and then they come to

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Speaker 2: a sanction from that. But as Jared Waiteley said on

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Speaker 2: three Pot sixty last night, if it's just for an

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Speaker 2: extra two grand, couldn't they have done it themselves.

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Speaker 3: In this way with the two step process. This is

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Speaker 3: exactly like the mushroom trial. So it's good to know

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Speaker 3: that by borrowing from True Crime heading into the Mushroom

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Speaker 3: tril podcast, Well, I mean, if we want to be popular,

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Speaker 3: I think that's what we need to start talking about.

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Speaker 2: Let's be real.

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Speaker 3: So it really shouldn't take that long. They should say, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I did make contact with him, because clearly I did,

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Speaker 3: Like you can't argue that, and then okay, I'll take

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Speaker 3: a seven and a half grand fine instead of three.

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Speaker 3: You know, what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Not what the tribe. I know they want to try

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Speaker 2: and make a statement, but it's not what the tribunal

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Speaker 3: Surely you're going to have detailed, lawyer based arguments over

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Speaker 2: Isn't that why they brought in written submissions?

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Speaker 3: You would have thought so.

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Speaker 3: So it's like they're trying to make it seem serious

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Speaker 3: and dramatic and you're in trouble mister, and they're just

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Speaker 2: I think Zeena's frustration might get to an all time

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Speaker 3: And we've got so we've got three complex ones too,

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Speaker 3: three weeks. Even though it's careless conduct sort of situation you.

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Speaker 2: Saw it live fork being you immediately thought he's in

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, it's just one of those ones where the action,

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Speaker 4: I mean, Tommy was knocked out clean cold, which I

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Speaker 2: Weeks Jared described that as the Connor Nash one as

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Speaker 2: the three week careless credit.

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Speaker 3: Ca definitely worse and I think there has to be

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Speaker 3: more careful effectively. Three weeks sounds harsh. It's the same

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Speaker 2: Were you surprise North challenged it, though, considering there they've

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Speaker 3: The mistake was challenging the Archer one. I think from

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Speaker 3: But this is a thing of Hey, Christian Cherry, you're

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Speaker 3: one of our most important players. You're not going to

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Speaker 3: three weeks. Like that's the difference between being the starting

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Speaker 3: ruck very well being at the bench like that. Genuinely,

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Speaker 3: relationship management with the player is the reason you would

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Speaker 2: Do you think you'll be done by eleven pm?

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Speaker 3: I mean I'll be leaving at eleven pm, so I

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Speaker 2: He would really appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: important question that the count from my weekend. So I

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Speaker 3: I did yes, yes, I wrote part of Run Home

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Speaker 3: at that bakery. It's a good time. But Sunday morning,

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Speaker 3: we drove home. That all made sense, but we went

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Speaker 3: to the pub at eleven am. Is that too early

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Speaker 4: Probably depends what the end goal is there.

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Speaker 3: So this is for a meal, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's as early. I can't imagine they'd been accepting orders

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Speaker 4: that it was very cold. It might speak to how

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Speaker 4: think eleven thirty fair game. I don't know why. Something

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Speaker 4: about eleven just makes it feel a little bit early.

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Speaker 3: Eleven is definitely morning. Eleven thirty is you could get

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Speaker 3: peckishing lunch top you're at your desk. Yeah, okay, I

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Speaker 3: just need to Listennity check on that, because everyone was like,

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Speaker 3: oh no, we'll go to the pub at eleven.

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Speaker 4: What are they serving alcohol?

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Speaker 3: I think so it was a brewery, so lovely spot.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they were doing it to help you so drown

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Speaker 2: sorrows from a Saturday. It didn't quite go your way, Max,

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Speaker 2: with the dogs losing and the giants winning.

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Speaker 3: What are you suggesting that that, well, we.

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Speaker 2: Didn't quite go to plan for you're tipping, but your

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well the Dogs, yeah, they're apparently they're just pure

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Speaker 3: frauds defensively at least. And the Giants top nine against

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Speaker 3: the top nine, Yes, I still have to keep coming

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Speaker 3: back to. So the Dogs, we're going to have this

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Speaker 2: That's a problem. Which is the which is thirteenth on

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Speaker 3: Yes, which is sure. We're getting so many ladders deep

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Speaker 3: it's getting ridiculous. But their percentage is roughly the same

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Speaker 3: so that speaks to they're getting close to a lot

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Speaker 3: So there's still like a glimmer of hope. I think

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Speaker 3: fully formed into this juggernault they are right now at

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Speaker 3: it's interesting how it's sort of. It doesn't look like

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Speaker 3: eleven wins. But I think we're already split into two.

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Speaker 3: I think we're already split into a top four race

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Speaker 3: and then a race for fourteen wins in the bottom half.

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Speaker 2: The quirky is that a lot of the bottom half

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Speaker 2: of the eight can still make the top four.

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Speaker 3: Though they can, but it's just much more unlikely because

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Speaker 3: a I think those teams aren't as good, but it's

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Speaker 3: because of their draws. So you look at Hawthorne and Frio,

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Speaker 3: six games left, three should wins, three pretty hard wins,

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Speaker 3: like Hawthorne in particular, Like they've got three games they

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Speaker 3: ship and I think it's port and tazzy this weekend Carlton,

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Speaker 3: maybe Melbourne, but then they've got to play Adelaide away,

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Speaker 3: Brisbane away Collingwood at the g three of the hardest

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Speaker 2: So how'd you feel fork reading the run home on

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Speaker 2: Sunday night and seeing Adelaide predicted to finish inside the

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Speaker 4: I think it's entirely possible.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a two horse race between them and

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Speaker 4: the Cats. Which I don't think is saying anything too

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Speaker 4: Outland is.

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Speaker 2: So Brisbane won't finish top two fewers.

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Speaker 3: Brisbane might be the second best team, but their drawer

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Speaker 3: is just so much harder.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think to go with Max. I don't necessarily

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Speaker 4: think the Crows are that much better than Brisbane or Geelong,

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Speaker 4: but just scheduling wise, and they're run home as Max

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Speaker 4: dies into very well every week. Like I think they're

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Speaker 4: a good, genuine shot. Geelong obviously has a much or

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Speaker 4: not much. They have a considerably easier drawer than the.

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Speaker 3: Crows, easiest in the camp and it's like their average

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Speaker 3: percentage of their opponents is like eighty percent terror Like

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Speaker 3: basically they're playing slightly better than North every week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're probably in the proverbial box seat without having

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Speaker 4: snatched it, if that makes sense. Like it's almost theirs

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Speaker 4: to lose from here, Like they have to slip up

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Speaker 4: for Gelong to probably jump them, but I do think

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Speaker 4: that will happen. So they're in a very good spot. Adelaide,

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Speaker 2: It was early sping the teams twenty but they've all.

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Speaker 3: I think that second clash Frio Dogs at Marvel very

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Speaker 2: Someone misses with fifteen win.

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Speaker 3: In point three percent of their simulations over the rest

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Speaker 2: That's not very minor chance.

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Speaker 4: So we're getting to a point in this season, Max,

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Speaker 3: They should be fine. Their percentage isn't great, but they

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Speaker 2: Gold Coast beating Collingwood. It was a from a narrative perspective,

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Speaker 2: Lee Matthew said on couch last night, inaccuracy can mask

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Speaker 3: That sounds like ly Matthews understands what expected.

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Speaker 2: Brownie said post game, all right, the Suns will play

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Speaker 3: They're going to play finals every chance they win their

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Speaker 2: And Geelong just fine. I know that we've talked about

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Speaker 4: I think that's really well put. They play the season

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Speaker 4: So without wanting to jinx max and argue with yourself

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Speaker 4: No, one hundred percent, but that is and that's why

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Speaker 4: Just are you concerned, Ben.

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Speaker 2: No, because I think because they've got a history of

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Speaker 3: The Sons were their bottom six team and the Sons

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Speaker 3: are now a top four chance. So those are the

436
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Speaker 3: teams they're getting. And by comparison, just the fact that

437
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Speaker 3: Geelong got Richmond twice is bizarre. Geelong always seems to

438
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Speaker 3: get one of these really bad teams twice. They got

439
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Speaker 3: North twice a couple of times in the last few seasons.

440
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Speaker 3: It's just a little odd how the like I understand

441
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Speaker 3: the point of equalization with the fixture that I think

442
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of merit to that that Adelaide is

443
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Speaker 3: going to take advantage of having a bottom four drawer

444
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Speaker 3: because they got West Coast and North twice. That's do

445
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Speaker 3: have to play on the run home that could get

446
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Speaker 3: the mid of the top two. That that is fine

447
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Speaker 3: to me. I like the idea of giving the worst

448
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Speaker 3: teams a slightly easier run to make rises up the

449
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,920
Speaker 3: ladder happen more often, because that's fun. That's what we

450
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Speaker 3: want to see in foot you that's a great storytelling.

451
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Speaker 3: It's not the purest competition, but I think there's some

452
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Speaker 3: merit to it.

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Speaker 2: You just mentioned the Swans and I didn't have my

454
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Speaker 2: bingo card. I worked across the whole weekend, and I

455
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Speaker 2: didn't have Saint Kilda being again and Sin Kilda playing

456
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Speaker 2: Sydney rather on Sunday being one of my more enjoyable

457
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Speaker 2: blogging experience. I actually really enjoyed the game. It was

458
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Speaker 2: entertaining pregame build up of the roof goodness was it?

459
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Speaker 2: Weren't we all just championing for the roof to stay

460
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Speaker 2: open storyline?

461
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Speaker 3: Although the raid around in Melbourne.

462
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Speaker 2: Later in the day there was could.

463
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Speaker 3: Have been a problem in the second half which marl Stadium.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they still would have used the yellow ball anyway

465
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Speaker 2: fast Yeah, but it was. It was a cracking contest

466
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Speaker 2: and Kilda played ross Lyin said pregame, I just want

467
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Speaker 2: the players to play with spirit, and they could not

468
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Speaker 2: have played with much more spirit. They are outstanding. Sydney though,

469
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Speaker 2: just had the class and the answers. But I think,

470
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Speaker 2: as you wrote, everything that they wanted to go their

471
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 2: way on the weekend went against them in terms of

472
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Speaker 2: results outside of their control.

473
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Speaker 3: The teams that were most likely to catch were Freo,

474
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Speaker 3: GWS and Gold Coast and all three of them are won,

475
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Speaker 3: so it's that much harder. Like even if Sidney gets

476
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Speaker 3: to fourteen wins now, I don't think they make it

477
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Speaker 3: with their percentage.

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Speaker 2: That is the end of the run home kind of discussion.

479
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Speaker 2: You can read it all at Foxfooty dot com dot au.

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Speaker 2: But now it's time for one of our favorite segments.

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Speaker 1: And now on the Fox Footy Podcast, another strong edition

482
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Speaker 1: of Australia's Favorite segment, Fair or Fast.

483
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Speaker 2: See I can say that now and Zita just doesn't say, oh, really,

484
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Speaker 2: favorite segment?

485
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Speaker 3: Now, how I'm confused? You said it was FRF at

486
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Speaker 3: the start? So is it fast and furious?

487
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's a fast or furious max? Okay, fair or fast.

488
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Speaker 2: He's only twenty and then his second year. But enough

489
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Speaker 2: is enough. West Coast can no longer tolerate Harley Read's

490
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Speaker 2: false bravado fair or fast speaking furious?

491
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Speaker 3: Am I right? Guys? I think they can't tolerate it

492
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Speaker 3: because he's a bloody good play Okay, that's the thing.

493
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Speaker 2: So you're in the Ken Hinckley and obviously Andrew mccaute.

494
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Speaker 2: But Ken Hinckley Camp who actually went up to Harley

495
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Speaker 2: Read after the game, despite the the pantomime with the

496
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Speaker 2: crowd and the theater with Jason Horn. Francis went up

497
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Speaker 2: to him and said, I love the way that you play.

498
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Speaker 2: Whereas we heard Lee Matthews last time on couch and

499
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Speaker 2: Tim Watson very strong an seen this morning saying that

500
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Speaker 2: his behaved behavior is childish and that for a twenty

501
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Speaker 2: no other twenty year old in the competition is behaving

502
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Speaker 2: like him, so why should and there has this has

503
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Speaker 2: gone on long enough and there has been no modification

504
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Speaker 2: in behavior.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm not that's certainly concerning. I think it is

506
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Speaker 3: childish because he was a child very recently, so that's

507
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Speaker 3: somewhat understandable. He doesn't need to ruin that in. But

508
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Speaker 3: I think playing on the edge gives him some sort

509
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Speaker 3: of energy and advantage in games, because you look at

510
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Speaker 3: these numbers, he's on par with the greats in terms

511
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Speaker 3: of their first sort of thirty forty games. He's a

512
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Speaker 3: fantastic player, and that's masked by the fact that everyone

513
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Speaker 3: around him at West Coast Outfit is not very good.

514
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Speaker 3: So if he's playing at a big Victorian club right now,

515
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Speaker 3: we're getting just as many headlines. We're also talking about

516
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Speaker 3: his bad behavior, but we're talking about geez. He is

517
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Speaker 3: going to be one of the best players in the

518
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Speaker 3: next decade. He's a very exciting prospect. The one that

519
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Speaker 3: I do understand calling out and saying this needs to

520
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Speaker 3: stop is the tripping.

521
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Speaker 2: So Will the MRO has quote failed the game, not

522
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Speaker 2: suspending Harley Reid fair or fast.

523
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Speaker 4: For all the love for Harley read which I concur

524
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Speaker 4: with Max, I do think he should have been given this.

525
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Speaker 4: That was as blatant to trip as Derris really.

526
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Speaker 3: And he's done it three times this year. Yeah, three finds.

527
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Speaker 2: I'm not trying, I'm not being over a hope, I'm

528
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Speaker 2: not overacting. It almost felt like a kicking motion.

529
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he kicked out.

530
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Speaker 4: It was nice to kicked and when it was a trip, Yeah,

531
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Speaker 4: like there was a bit of momentum behind it, the

532
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Speaker 4: league swinging back and forth. Yeah, I think so, just

533
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Speaker 4: with the way that some of these suspensions have been

534
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Speaker 4: given out this year, or fines for that matter, like

535
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Speaker 4: that had to be a one week unfortunately for Harley.

536
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Speaker 4: Fortunately for him now he doesn't have one. The other

537
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Speaker 4: one I'm going to bring up impromptu. Ben was Sam

538
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Speaker 4: Darcy hitting Jordan Butts. Yes, behind the play, Marcus Winhager

539
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Speaker 4: was fine for hitting Nick Deekos in a very similar

540
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Speaker 4: action that didn't really cause a whole lot, And I

541
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Speaker 4: think there's a bit of a there's definitely thought the

542
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Speaker 4: standard and potentially belief that like that may played a

543
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Speaker 4: part as to why Jordan Butts may have been having

544
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Speaker 4: issues A puntry lun didn't he Yeah, claps lung.

545
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Speaker 2: Yeah, three nights, three nights.

546
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. Yeah, so very very seriously, I'm

547
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Speaker 4: not saying there's definitely a correlation between the two, but

548
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Speaker 4: I think that still hasn't been worked out. But Nick

549
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Speaker 4: certainly wasn't sure of a post game. But when you're yeah,

550
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Speaker 4: double standards is the way to put it, Ben, Like

551
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Speaker 4: that had to be a fine for san Darcy in

552
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Speaker 4: the same way that I think it had to be

553
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Speaker 4: suspension for Harley Reed.

554
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Speaker 3: The one thing with this harghly Red tripping discussion is

555
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Speaker 3: that no one has been suspen of a tripping this year. No,

556
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Speaker 3: A lot of players have been fined a lot. Markeine,

557
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: does it quite a bit, Yes, it does. Yeah, that

558
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: might be like a Gayely football thing where it's allowed

559
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: in that sport, so he's just used to it growing up.

560
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: So a lot of players would be getting suspensions and

561
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Speaker 3: that would be a complaint. There would be times where

562
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Speaker 3: people will say, that's not a week, but it's a

563
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Speaker 3: very serious, potentially dangerous thing. We're just lucky that we

564
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Speaker 3: haven't had any serious injuries from anyone doing it this year.

565
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Speaker 2: Speaking of suspensions, max four weeks for Jack Graham, three

566
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Speaker 2: for Jeremy Finnlason, five for Will Power, six for Lance Collard.

567
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Speaker 2: These bands are a dog's breakfast. Fair or fast.

568
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Speaker 3: Certainly inconsistent, isn't it, So there's a level of fairness

569
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Speaker 3: to it. I'm fine with it being a long suspension

570
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Speaker 3: like this because there was a discussion on the couch

571
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Speaker 3: about how well there shouldn't be a penalty. It should

572
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Speaker 3: just be an education process. There is no possible way

573
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Speaker 3: that an AFL player in twenty twenty five is going

574
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Speaker 3: out there thinking that it's anywhere near okay to deliver

575
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Speaker 3: a homophobic slur. Everyone knows you can't do that, so

576
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Speaker 3: education is pointless. So it just has to be the

577
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Speaker 3: sanction to try and try and drive it out of peace.

578
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Speaker 3: Even though there's an understanding that sometimes it's just it's

579
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Speaker 3: not an involuntary reflex. But I don't think Jack Graham

580
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: is out there doing this a lot. It just happened,

581
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Speaker 3: like people can make mistakes in the heat of battle,

582
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Speaker 3: so I think it's fair enough to suspend.

583
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Speaker 4: Suspending like that.

584
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Speaker 3: I understand the concerns about the contrast with Willer Reolier

585
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Speaker 3: than getting a week. That situation was a lot more

586
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Speaker 3: complicated than this. That there are layers to that, so

587
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: that plays into that, but it would be nice to

588
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Speaker 3: have some consistency about it. Last year when we had

589
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Speaker 3: two of those from memory, it was will Powell and Finlayson.

590
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Speaker 2: Finlayson was first.

591
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Speaker 3: There was an escalation, wasn't there so which made total

592
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Speaker 3: sense because how you clearly weren't listening, you get a

593
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Speaker 3: worse penalty will power for doing this.

594
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Speaker 2: So then Collard, I think was part of them, was

595
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Speaker 2: in the VFL and then it was multiple which.

596
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Speaker 3: Is why he was the most. So I can understand that.

597
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Speaker 3: So going I guess going back to four, if that's

598
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Speaker 3: where we're resetting the bar, I'm okay with four.

599
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Speaker 4: I think there was an element of self report as

600
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Speaker 4: well from what the AFL said as to why Graham

601
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Speaker 4: had a.

602
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Speaker 3: List, but did he not report like a week later

603
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Speaker 3: while part of.

604
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Speaker 2: Well this is the thing that Andrew mccolter on three

605
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Speaker 2: sixty last night said that Graham that he was aware

606
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Speaker 2: of it postgame. Andrew mcculter and the Giants were as well.

607
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Speaker 2: And then I think the AFL statement said that it

608
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Speaker 2: was reported to them on the Friday just gone. So

609
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Speaker 2: the game was on the Friday, seven days prime.

610
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Speaker 3: So there's some sort of process that needed to happen

611
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Speaker 3: that just didn't happen, perhaps because the match day report.

612
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Speaker 2: That's right. So Adam Kingsley was asked by Jared last night.

613
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Speaker 2: Jared asked, were did you think that when you found

614
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Speaker 2: out about it that it would be resolved there and then?

615
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Speaker 2: And he said no, because they were waiting for some

616
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Speaker 2: kind of AFL official report or complaint to be made.

617
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Speaker 2: And then, yeah, Graham has come forward. He's personally spoken

618
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Speaker 2: to Andrew Dillon and then obviously spoke as well as

619
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Speaker 2: speaking to the Giants directly as well. And then the

620
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Speaker 2: ban has or it's sort of come to fruition on

621
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Speaker 2: the Saturday because Tom Gross was the only emergency. It

622
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Speaker 2: was not going on the plane from Perth to Adelaide.

623
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Speaker 2: But then there was a report from the West Australian

624
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Speaker 2: late on Saturday night saying Tom Gross is flying over

625
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Speaker 2: to Adelaide, and then Graham was The band was confirmed

626
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Speaker 2: on the Sunday morning, in less than six hours before

627
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Speaker 2: the first bounce.

628
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Speaker 3: So this is a process issue more than anything as

629
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Speaker 3: to why it came out that late. So it was odd,

630
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: but you can things happen in corporations, communication problems at

631
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Speaker 3: the AFL.

632
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Speaker 4: Who would have.

633
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Speaker 2: Will the armswer onto it? Nick Watson must stop the

634
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 2: high free kick play attempts from this week, fear or

635
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Speaker 2: fast fair.

636
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Speaker 4: I feel like we're going back to the world or

637
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 4: so he out of anyone who's going back to the

638
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 4: world with high free kicks, I thought we was sort

639
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: of passed this same disappointing and he was the one

640
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 4: that ended up leaving through of those instances, probably the

641
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 4: one without a free kick in a little bit sore.

642
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's just not good for anyone. Like concussion

643
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 4: continues to be a rising issue.

644
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: So did he get himself hurt by getting high contact

645
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: and no free kick?

646
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: Thought he got himself hurt, not concussed, but like that's

647
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: what Matthew Pavage's fear was at the time, is that

648
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: that is the next that is the next step. Potentially

649
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: you get hit by Luke Ryan who was a big guy. Yes,

650
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: slightly a couple of centimeters the other way, and it

651
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: might lead to a concussion.

652
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Speaker 3: So this is strange because it does seem like, broadly speaking,

653
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: umpires aren't calling a lot of you ducked into that,

654
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 3: and therefore it's not high contact situations. Seems like players

655
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: are getting the benefit of the doubt. And yet yes,

656
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: still there players doing this.

657
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: So I think the umpires considering and Adam Simpson spoke

658
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: about this on three sixty last week, and the steps

659
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: now for when there's a potential high tackle the umpires

660
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: have to ask themselves in in milliseconds. I think the

661
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: umpires are doing a magnificent job at adjudicating this very

662
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: complicated rule at the.

663
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Speaker 3: Moment, especially because you also the conversation, the side conversation

664
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Speaker 3: to all of this is about umpires, get out of

665
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: the corridor, get out of the way, and if we

666
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: had a razor. Ray was talking about this on three

667
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: sixty last week. He wants them further back from the play.

668
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: All right, So now we want umpires to be another

669
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: ten to fifteen meters away. Yes, not able to see

670
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Speaker 3: the of these incidents that we see on TV because

671
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: the cameras can zoom in.

672
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: We'll have to hum nine the second to get the

673
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Speaker 4: pinnoculars out, have a look at and make a decision.

674
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: At least a monocle or something. Look fancy Max.

675
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: Essendon's primetime heavy fixture is the greatest misread of the

676
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: century by the AFL. Fair or face.

677
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of some sort of mistranslation dabblefish joke,

678
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: but I can't, so I'll just go with yes. Fair,

679
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: So they're going to end up with fifteen games fifteen

680
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: of twenty three in primetime or a special time slot

681
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: like that Sunday night, King's Birthday EVE game or anzac

682
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: Day fifteen for a team that's probably finishing bottom four.

683
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: We think at the very like probably the AFL did

684
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: not predict that they would have a bazillion injuries. But

685
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: also I don't think anyone thought Essendon was going to

686
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: be good. So this is I remember it might have

687
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: been ages ago, it might have been like twenty fifteen.

688
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: Carlton had a bunch of Friday nights, even though they

689
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: were terrible.

690
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: It's been Carlson getting primetime during that time was a

691
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: constant discussion.

692
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: So this is the side effect of it's a system

693
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: where broadcaster preferences mean that big Victorian clubs get more

694
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: of these games because that's who seven wants to show

695
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: in those timeslots, because then they get those games. Otherwise,

696
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: like we might have Fox might have them exclusively on

697
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: the weekend, So that's part of it. Then there's you've

698
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: got the rolling fixture, but they still don't do it

699
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: late enough to accurately say, oh, Es and N's out

700
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: of the finals race, Canton's out of the finals race.

701
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: We can't have them in there. And you've got the

702
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: problem of well, if you have a team on a

703
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: Thursday night game, you're more likely to have them on

704
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: a Friday night next week or an associating weeks because

705
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: of the breaks around it. And you don't want to

706
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: have teams going back and forth between Thursdays and Saturdays

707
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: and Thursdays. So once you're in that blockbuster timeslot, you

708
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: get repeated in there. The dogs are the ones who

709
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: are getting a lot of these two Fortunately they play

710
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: fun footy and are competing for the finals. By the way,

711
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: they could have won zipp for three for their big

712
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: three that they've tipped.

713
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like a rolling fixture. I think you

714
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: would you want to notice it at the back end

715
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 4: of the season for it to serve its purpose, like

716
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: you should. You know, every Friday Thursday, Friday Night game

717
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: from that point forward, Round eighteen, round nineteen should be

718
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: more or less reflective of the final series.

719
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: And some of them.

720
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: Gold Coast Hollywood would not have been a Friday night

721
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: game at the start of the game, So that is

722
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: that worked perfectly, and the ratings were really good, funnily enough,

723
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: because it was a fantastic game between two teams fighting

724
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: for the top four.

725
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: I think it was and I think as expected Gold

726
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: Coasts highest rating game ever. Certainly from a Fox Footy perpective.

727
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: Makes complete sense.

728
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: And last one, will Carlton will be better off without

729
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: Tom Dakony fair off us.

730
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Speaker 3: I'm sure he's a lovely man.

731
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure he is. But from an on field mechanics.

732
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: From a field mechanics, I'd say that's a fast okay,

733
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 4: as soon as you take into account in the fact

734
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: that they would be saving a million dollars and they're

735
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: not going to be paying seven hundred thousand more to

736
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: match Saint Kilda's proposed contract. I would say it's probably.

737
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: Fair and getting a first round compensation pick for his departure.

738
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I mean I think a lot of the

739
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: chat was so spoken about on first Crack about Mark Pittnett. Yes,

740
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 4: he's replacement sitting right there, and he ranks as a

741
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 4: top five ruckman for the eighteen game he's played since

742
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: the start of twenty twenty four. Sherry, this is in

743
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 4: no order. Sherry, gorne Wits and Luke Jackson in the

744
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 4: other four around him, and pitt Neet slotted into fourth.

745
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 4: So he's doing something very you know, clearly correctly. Patty

746
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: Crips loves playing under him, with him tapping him the ball,

747
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: and the clearance game on Thursday night was actually really

748
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: good against the lines, as was they contest ball. So

749
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 4: they clearly have a replacement something right there. I don't

750
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: want the kid, and I know this isn't what you're

751
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 4: insinuating that decone is going to be like, oh that's fine,

752
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: Like he'll just walk out the door. I think they'll

753
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: really it will hurt his athletics has been Flexibility around

754
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 4: the ground is something that they're going to need to

755
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 4: replace somehow, and there isn't really anyone at Carleton at

756
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: the moment that suggests they will do that. And I

757
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: don't think there's many players linked to Carlton this offseason.

758
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: So no, they're making cap space by letting him go.

759
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: They're not having a chance to edit anyone.

760
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, So it's going to hurt a lot, but

761
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: all in all, it is the best decision for the

762
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: football club to let him go.

763
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: I think do they have the best backup ruck at

764
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: the comp with pittnay, if you exclude Fremantle, like yeah, yeah,

765
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: team other than teams that actually run too yeah, like.

766
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: Probably was Ned Reeves, like a few last year.

767
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure there's a team where for just forgetting.

768
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: But they are the perfect example of a team that

769
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: does not need to spend money on a ruck because

770
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: they've got pit and who's actually on a Like it

771
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: was a four year deal, wasn't it. He signed last year,

772
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: so it's not like he's a one year flyer. It

773
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: makes all the sense of the world to not commit

774
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: so much to that position when you've got flaws elsewhere.

775
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just better than Pete Ladham's I would think, yes, Yeah,

776
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm just sort of going through port.

777
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 4: Have Jordan Sweet and a vart Soldo, not that A

778
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: Van Solo has been playing a whole lot of that.

779
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: I think both of them came in with higher aspirations

780
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 4: than what they've become.

781
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 5: Yes.

782
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 4: True.

783
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: So speaking of trade, so you're putting together with being

784
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: Cotton a trade verdict piece for Fox Footy dot Com

785
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: to a US so Daconing goes, yes, Sam Draper.

786
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: Goes to.

787
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: Brisbane or Adelaide Yeah, Brisbane Okay, And does that mean

788
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: that Brisbane also gets Oscar Allen Yes, leck Aaliyah.

789
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: Now, this is one that Ben and I were disputing.

790
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: I think he stays. Leak is a very very loyal

791
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: player to GWS. As you said to us, Ben, JBS

792
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: have put in a lot of capital towards him. I

793
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 4: think everything in terms of money per year, in terms

794
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 4: of opportunity at a different club, all points towards him going.

795
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 4: But he's playing behind the defense that has Jack Buckley,

796
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 4: Sam Taylor and Kenn Hayden who are a hell of

797
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: a defense, and he's not getting in that anytime soon.

798
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 4: When you think that, I don't think anything would be

799
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 4: over the age of twenty eight twenty nine. Like they're

800
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 4: all very good players. I'll be around for the next

801
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 4: five six years, so I struggle to see how he's

802
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 4: going to fit into that without a long term injury.

803
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, he wants to stay. It is

804
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: in his best interest to go. I don't know if

805
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: that helps, No, it helps.

806
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: It gives the listeners a bit of an indication and

807
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: St Kilda has been most strongly linked to him.

808
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: I think for what it's worth, I think North Melbourne

809
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 4: should be going on for someone like like a.

810
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: Leah oh okay, James Warpole.

811
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 4: Ah tensative stay. I believe Ban Cotton thinks tensive go.

812
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: Okay, where would he be going?

813
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 4: Too long?

814
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: And then you've been all over the sort of the

815
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: Nasaia wangon name Miller, Beat Beat, Yes and the progress

816
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: there are incredible performance from It wasn't his best performance,

817
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: but he actually burnt off the James Jordan tag on

818
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: the weekend to the point where Callum Mills was put

819
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: to him on the in the third quarter.

820
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: So the first time we've seen that James Jordan.

821
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. I can't remember if it was.

822
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: Jared Healing commentary said, James Jordan has never tagged a

823
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: player like this for the ability to burst off, and

824
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: he took him forward and took contested marks, which I've

825
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: never seen the SI I do as well, which was

826
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: which was great. What I think Jay Clarke put on

827
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: the radar seven days ago that if NASAIA hadn't made

828
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: a call in ten days time, that alarm bells start

829
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: to happen, and we're starting to get the towards that

830
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: ten day threshold, a.

831
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 4: Bit the nine day mark if my math is correct.

832
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 4: When you're listening, Yes, correct Tuesday you cast.

833
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty nine, catching up the catalog the.

834
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: L pidnets contracted cars.

835
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's won three brand loads in a row.

836
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 4: Incredible, the sire. Yes, I think the alarm bell start

837
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: ringing at the time of recording as of tomorrow. So yeah.

838
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: It just the reports that came out a couple of

839
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 4: weeks ago of him having his manager come towards a

840
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: contract short term offer. I will say that the very

841
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 4: unfortunate things have been going on with him and Jasberg

842
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: on lately, might you know play a part?

843
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: Sure?

844
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 4: This isn't the first priority at the moment right dealing

845
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 4: with you know, some horrible racism online. But yes, I

846
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: still think it's leaning towards go as you heard me

847
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 4: the Rugby reference before I had forty yes, is.

848
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: That percentages on the three teams in the race.

849
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Saint Kilda and Port are probably even

850
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 4: more or less. And then the Crows are probably the

851
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: one who I have at twenty percent at the.

852
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: Moment, even though they've probably got the most cash.

853
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 4: Yes, and would be far well and truly appealing at

854
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: the moment. But the link has always been to Port.

855
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: That's what I've always been strongest one. And what the

856
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: people around the sie back in South Australia they say

857
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 4: the exact same thing.

858
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: You'll be able to read more of that on Foxfooty

859
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: dot com dot au. But it's now time for one

860
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 2: of our favorite segments on the Fox Foody podcast.

861
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: It's time to open up the mail bag. Have a

862
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: question for the panel tweeters every Monday morning at Fox Footy.

863
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 3: They're like our children, Ben, and we love them equally

864
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: you do, but some better than others. The mail Bag.

865
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: Thank you to everyone who has written in on Twitter

866
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: at Monday morning. So you give us your questions, we

867
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 3: answer them if they're any good, like this one from

868
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: Jacob who asks who would be your tip for the

869
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: rising Star? At this point, this has got real close,

870
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 3: isn't it. So As a Bombers fan, I feel extra

871
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: weight should be given to Archie roberts performances in a

872
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: crap team compared to the bookie's favorites of Ashcroft and Curtain.

873
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: So I did my research before because someone asked me

874
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: this over all the week and I couldn't even think

875
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: of who was in it. So you want to be prepared, Levy,

876
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 3: as Draft and Dan Curtin are effectively equal favorites. Yeah

877
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 3: at that point.

878
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: And I saw a tweet someone that Dan Kurtin was

879
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: one hundred bucks in the bedding only one point four

880
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: or five weeks.

881
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: But it's like because he's playing incredibly well, so makes

882
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: sense Roberts and then Murphy Reid would be the next

883
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 3: tier back pretty close but still behind. And then the

884
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: only other's given any other chance, Harvey Langford, Nate Caddy

885
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: and Connor O'Sullivan.

886
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, those three haven't have had moments, those last three,

887
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: but haven't had the consistency of the four or five players.

888
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: They would be competing for the ones and two votes

889
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: for the.

890
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 6: Strong.

891
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 2: It's a strong class. It's a strong class.

892
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: How do you see the rising Stard? Do you think

893
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: it should be purely based on that year's performances or

894
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: on who is the best player, because if you go

895
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: purely on performances, you can get into the Lewis Taylor v.

896
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: Marcus Bontepelly Lewis situation.

897
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 4: It has to be a year, right, like everyone has

898
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: to start from I think zero. I think so, like

899
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 4: so you would have voted for Lewis Taylor, I would

900
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: have voted for Lewis Taylor.

901
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: I would have voted for Louis Taylor. I think it's

902
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 2: and that's traditionally how the award is normally, I guess so, yeah, warded.

903
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 4: If anything, there's a tendency, so they don't like to

904
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 4: pick someone who's made their debut a year prior. I

905
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 4: don't only won it last year.

906
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: Was third year.

907
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stephen Bradbred his way to winning that. Yeah, take

908
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: correct got suspended. So no, I think that's not unreasonable

909
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: to say. But generally we've had some pretty high ranked

910
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: players Cheese, al Decos, Jackson Saron Walsh, the winners before that,

911
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 3: Jaden Stevenson of course, oh yes, for his wonderful superstar,

912
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 3: but currently Andrew McGrath, Mills Hogan going back and Lewis

913
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: Taylor was twenty fourteen.

914
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 4: A lot of very good players there. Class two very

915
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: quick fire questions. So who do we think that will win?

916
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 4: Right now? I had to pick someone.

917
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: If you read Mayhew Reid, maybe I would be voting

918
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: for Dan Curtin.

919
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 4: He's coming home.

920
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: He's coming home.

921
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: I think he is the most impressive player for doing

922
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: what he's doing at his size.

923
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 4: He has a hell of a hard roll as well.

924
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: He has an attacking wing for That's not the point.

925
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 4: My next question is, is that same player that you've

926
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 4: just said the person you're most excited for him this

927
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: crop of players?

928
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I'm picking so Yeah. So I

929
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: can see Ashcroft is because he's just slotted in so

930
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 3: easily into the Premiers and he's playing really good foot

931
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 3: So I can understand why you're just default to voting

932
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 3: for him. But I'm just more excited about what curtain

933
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: could be.

934
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I can't understand that. Now. I'm a big Murphy

935
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: Reid fan. I had him at six or seven in

936
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: the draft rankings last year and he slid to sixteen seven,

937
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen, somewhere around there, and I think Frio were

938
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 2: very very happy that he went. They're slightly surprising because Frio,

939
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: except for I think Andrew Brayshaw, that normally don't tend

940
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: to go for the vic Metro guys traditionally, so they

941
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: went for a vic Metro guy and he has, I

942
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 2: think in his first year, gone above expectations there as

943
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: a small Ford. I hope he gets into the midfield

944
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: at some stage because he's really really classy. I just

945
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: think there's a bit of a question mark on his speed,

946
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: but he's as shrewd as they come from a footy perspective.

947
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: I should have say as well. I was saying how

948
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: Dan Curtain has a very hard role small ford role

949
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 4: in the first due to a club. Isn't he either?

950
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 4: So most Reid speaking to that.

951
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: So the highest rated player in the player ratings between

952
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 3: the ages of eighteen and twenty is actually Joel Frager

953
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: has discussed on the podcast previously not eligible thanks to

954
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: his one excellent game. Apparently Liam Forcett is number two.

955
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to Good afternoon, Jack Joebanoskies.

956
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: And then Dan Curtin is next, ahead of Harvey Langford,

957
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: Job Shanahan who is pretty promising from his.

958
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: Games good game against Portland weekend.

959
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: Will Graham from eight games, and then Murphy Reid. So

960
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: the players with a substantial sample of games, it's Curtin

961
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: from Langford from Reed from whose next Conor Sullivan would

962
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 3: be next, which is pretty good.

963
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: He was he was early favourite. He's probably drops off

964
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: a little bit.

965
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 4: Yes, I think that's fair. Those are the it'll be it'll.

966
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: Be a good race. And I think isn't it right

967
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: that the rising start this year due to the Gold

968
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: Costesston game will be hand out the brownlowknock.

969
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: Correct, because they can't pick it twenty four hours after

970
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: Gold Coast Esston. Because what if one of Essendon's seven

971
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 3: and one hundred debutantes this year gets nominated, Archie Roberts

972
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: like he could have a good performance in the game.

973
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: Certainly that could play a part.

974
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: They should host it that People First Stadium and that'd

975
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: be good. Is it at People First Stadium? Shot People

976
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: First Stadium?

977
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: Of course.

978
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: The dramatic conclusion to the home right away season that

979
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: we've all been waiting for at everyone's favorite stadium that

980
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: changes its name every year. That's right, yes, Carra, Yes, yes, Morara.

981
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: It's weird that they have two that assessed. I have

982
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: to assure that it's an indusenous thing. One more from David,

983
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: who asks, instead of finding players who bump into umpires

984
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: or use them as shields to separate from opponents, why

985
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: don't they just award a free kick and stop it immediately?

986
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: Or is it a revenue generating schemes review generated like

987
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: speed cameras. It's not real. They're just trying to make money.

988
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 4: So you have that at the stadium, like a camera

989
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 4: flashes every time the umpire it gets hit.

990
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 2: So you think of you think of the incident where

991
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: Adam Chera ran into Robert O'Gorman on Thursday night. How

992
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: the heck is Robert o'grman going to know who to

993
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: pay the free kick? Again? Like against he was hit

994
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: him from behind.

995
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: I mean, there would be a way to figure out

996
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: who it was, like someone would see it, or you

997
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: would own up, or you would just get someone in

998
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: their ear to tell them.

999
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: But you get more instances where you rouse pushing DeCross

1000
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: who goes into the umpire and then all of a sudden,

1001
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: the wrong team's being awarded the free kick.

1002
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1003
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: And I also think danger when we are talking about

1004
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 3: incidental careless conduct, like sometimes it's purely a mistake and

1005
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: it's it's harsh.

1006
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 4: Although I guess it would cramp clamp down on it.

1007
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 4: Is the umpire, Yeah, the one that Nate Caddy hit

1008
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 4: the other week. Does he get a free kick? Does

1009
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 4: he takes that? Does umpire take the free kick?

1010
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: Does the umpire who ruined an early Carlton goal against

1011
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: Brisbane on Thursday night?

1012
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: Yes, the infamous at Subiaco where the umpire took a carry.

1013
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: You pay that and then the umpire becomes part of

1014
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: whichever team kicked in the ball and then they get

1015
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: a nineteenth man.

1016
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: I wonder if that was I wonder if that was

1017
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: just an uncontested mark or an intercept mark, it would

1018
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: have been a champion champion And then the champion data

1019
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: came in on ninety ninety nine.

1020
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: How convenient it.

1021
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 4: Would have it his own column that will never be

1022
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: touched potentially for the rest of the time. Er one,

1023
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 4: but add the speed cameras to the AFL in season

1024
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: tournament idea that we have, Oh, great, great, great, I'm

1025
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 4: black Grass.

1026
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: That's the end of the mail bag. And Max has

1027
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: brought the book.

1028
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: Chety the greatest book of all time or one. I mean,

1029
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: the whole series are great, and this is the first

1030
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: book that we're reading from. Sheed's a touch of cunning.

1031
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: He has a lot of things to say. And what

1032
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: we know about Kevin Sheedy is he's a developer of

1033
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 3: boys to men.

1034
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: Yes, speaking of boys, Hello, David David Zas has walked in. Yeah,

1035
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: I know. It is the soundtrack of the Fox Footy

1036
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: office actually with the cherry picker going up and yes, the.

1037
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 5: Tristan cherry picker. What's going on? Hello? Fitting that you quite?

1038
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 5: Literally quite?

1039
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: How are you feeling ahead of your three?

1040
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 5: To me, we just say words out loud and just

1041
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 5: think we're funny.

1042
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 4: We're not.

1043
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 6: I'm not looking forward to them. I don't like the

1044
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 6: five pm start. Four four would have been especially for

1045
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 6: a case that was literally happened last Thursday.

1046
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 5: You would have thought that we would have had it

1047
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 5: done by now. Two of them did, yes, me, two

1048
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 5: of them did. That's a very good point, Max going

1049
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 5: to I just can't how are you going to come

1050
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 5: just five pm, six pm, seven pm.

1051
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: But what an absolute joke because specifically the chaircases right

1052
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: where we're arguing over maybe a couple of times this

1053
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: will because this is what I'm most worried about, because

1054
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: this could either go for an hour or for three hours,

1055
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: because they have to go through the other three incidents

1056
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: if if they get one bit wrong and then I

1057
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: need some Kevin.

1058
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: Well, let's make you feel better with this passage from his.

1059
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 5: Book, A Touch of Cunning.

1060
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: It's from a Touch of Cunning talking about how he

1061
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: wants to instill it. It's still virtues into the young people,

1062
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: to that good virtues. When you go into a maternity hospital,

1063
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: for instance, they don't say born leaders fifth floor, left

1064
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: wing trench warriors, sixth floor, beasts and so on. The

1065
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: babies learn from the fabric of the nappies and baby

1066
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: clothes they wear from day one. Personally, when I hear

1067
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: the expressions like born leader and born fighter, I think, gee,

1068
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: that's a pretty big call. Often you learn to fight

1069
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 3: because you've been in a few fights, hard fights when

1070
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 3: winning was really important. Sometimes you learn to make decisions

1071
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: because you live a life of making decisions. You can

1072
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: learn a lot in maternity hospitals. Though occasionally, when I've

1073
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: had young footballers complaining because training was hard or playing

1074
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: was tough and now were getting hurt, I've taken them

1075
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: into the Mercy. I've shown them the sick or prematurely

1076
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 3: born babies and the human cribs.

1077
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 5: What do you think about this?

1078
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 3: I asked the players, some of them very young. They

1079
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 3: have never thought about it. These babies have a problem,

1080
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 3: they were born early, or they have a weak heart

1081
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: or something serious like that, or maybe something worse than

1082
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: have little hope of living. I say, you've got no problem.

1083
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 3: You have the ability to play football. Why don't you

1084
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: make the most of your advantages?

1085
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: Wow, that is that's that's a good fine.

1086
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 5: That's your best reading. Like in terms of that, thank

1087
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 5: you for the delivery. I had to bring the energy

1088
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 5: to it. That What I don't know will I'm concerned?

1089
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 3: Do you think anything serious?

1090
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 4: Or something even more? Something serious?

1091
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 5: But is he he seems like Zoolander or something?

1092
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: How many of the baby bombers? Do you think we're

1093
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 3: inspired by a trip to the mercy?

1094
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 5: But does he just you can't just go in there

1095
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 5: can a footy team?

1096
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 3: We just walk in and look at baby.

1097
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 6: So he's just taking a player in and going to

1098
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 6: that ward and then just streaming at them.

1099
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: Look at look at this sick baby.

1100
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: Stop complaining about getting hit in the back.

1101
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 5: Strange man taking in.

1102
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: I assume post birth as well, Yes, human.

1103
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 5: Baby.

1104
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: The babies don't have any problem mid birth.

1105
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 4: Someone pre birth that they're just pregnant, having such a

1106
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 4: moment like that, and Kevin, she walks in mid birth.

1107
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 5: Imagine that being just imagine an amazing story.

1108
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: Do you think there are dads who going to Dad's

1109
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: got in trouble for getting distracted like they were holding

1110
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: their wife's hand, but suddenly sorry, honey, she's here.

1111
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 4: She signed my book. A touch of cunning, please, just a.

1112
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 5: Touch of cutting not so much? Does that ring true

1113
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 5: to you as you're the only father in the room

1114
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 5: that we're aware of.

1115
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: Well, I'll be concerned if.

1116
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: Well we had basically the entire board of onlookers and

1117
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: staff stay well in.

1118
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: The in the suite when right AFL coaches that you

1119
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: saw it pretty imagine if she's Dennis Pagan just walked

1120
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: in Brendan Bolton talking about green shoots.

1121
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 6: I saw the way you delivered those babies last week

1122
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 6: and let me tell you, some of you have got

1123
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 6: a lot to answer for good.

1124
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 5: That was fantastic. I very much enjoyed that.

1125
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: I hope we've brightened up your day ahead of the

1126
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: misery that is the life you have chosen for yourself.

1127
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 5: I can't wait for it to get underway. That's because

1128
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 5: it will be over quick.

1129
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: You do two schnitz sorders tonight because it might be

1130
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: a long, long night.

1131
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: We're not going to be that hungry.

1132
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: He might be angry, David, I think, can you tell

1133
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: your dad Ben Darren daa, what's Darren?

1134
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 5: He keeps saying better load up on the grill. That's

1135
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 5: not how it works. Scotty sponsors wrong blasphemy.

1136
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: I mean chips, they're fine chips.

1137
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 5: Don't get us wrong, lovely, but don't just just can

1138
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 5: you have it?

1139
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: Pass it on.

1140
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 4: He'll probably be listening to this and probably would have

1141
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 4: pulled over and.

1142
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: All very bare.

1143
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 3: Needs to be brand safe.

1144
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: That was David z A couple joining us for abad

1145
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 2: Zita's role in this podcast is coming in for Shy.

1146
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: He's just crane livid.

1147
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 4: Cameo.

1148
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: It is a good came came here. Let's have a

1149
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: look at the tips and the cups for this weekend,

1150
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: all nine games coming up, isn'ton and the Giants a

1151
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: blockbuster to start Thursday night for the Kurt a Less Cup.

1152
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 4: What a start.

1153
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: Yes, that is the most exciting thing that will ever

1154
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 3: happen about this game all week Giants.

1155
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: So the Giants are resting, resting or being conservative for

1156
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 2: a few players.

1157
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: Jesse Hoagan included, Yes, it's a VFL team plus Durham

1158
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: and merrit.

1159
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: When Tommy Morrish tweeted today that Nate Caddy was potentially

1160
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: out with groinsawness, I thought, it actually can't get much worse,

1161
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: can it?

1162
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 4: No, And we probably thought that a fortnight ago as well.

1163
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 3: The Nick Martin one like genuinely sucks like you could

1164
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: miss two seasons with that, with the timing that is

1165
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: very unfortunately.

1166
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 4: I never lost once to a marble stadium.

1167
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: Brisbane and the Bulldogs at the GAB are Trent Bartlet's

1168
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: Cup up for grabs here.

1169
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: The only thing I'll point out while tip in Brisbane

1170
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: is that they just haven't been great at home this year,

1171
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 3: not the Fortress, no more, not only more, the last

1172
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 3: six they've lost and seven seven losses since the start

1173
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: of the last season. At home during the home and

1174
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: away when they'd lost four in like the previous four

1175
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: or five seasons before that. So it's a penetrable fortress. Yes,

1176
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: but you would think this is some sort of shootout

1177
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 3: and the Lions and a Gabba shootout generally do pretty well,

1178
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: so I think they get over them.

1179
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 4: Concur with everything that's just said.

1180
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 2: Hawthorne and Port Adelaide for premiership player Brent Ranoff Cup.

1181
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, Hawthorne have to win.

1182
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: Hawthorne have to win. Port continued to be an enigma.

1183
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 4: I have no idea what you're getting each week. Like

1184
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 4: I walked into the office on Sunday thinking they would

1185
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: smack West Coast by Yeah, twelve fourteen goals just felt

1186
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: like a Budelaide thing and they end up trailing at

1187
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 4: three calls time in winning Hawthorne.

1188
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: Swan's hosting the Kangaroo's Ryan Clark Cup.

1189
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: My favorite Guernsey matchup of the year. Just a very

1190
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: satisfying read and white. Actually really and you know, ninety

1191
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: ninety six Grand Final, first game I ever watch, So

1192
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: we're wearing South Melbourne kit is. I wasn't, no, I

1193
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: was four, Sorry, I know, but either way, just the

1194
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 3: colour scamees. It's a very pleasing matching and Sydney should win.

1195
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: Sydney should win have won twelve the last thirteen.

1196
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: This is Carlton and Melbourne, a reasonably irrelevant game in

1197
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: the run home for the Chris Johnson Cup. It's the

1198
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: hardest game of the round to tip.

1199
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 3: Yes, it is because Carlton can't be as bad as

1200
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 3: we've seen over the last month and like they weare

1201
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 3: better against Brisbane.

1202
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 4: I would say the saying about the Demons though, like

1203
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 4: I feel like the premiership point. I think where it's

1204
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 4: north on the weekend was a bit of a reward

1205
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 4: for five.

1206
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Ds have been okay, Like they're fine.

1207
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: I'm pretty glass half full on them, Like it sucks

1208
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 3: that they're in this position where they're going to have

1209
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 3: to go another year and just hope that things get

1210
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 3: better and then make a decision on Goodwin and the likes.

1211
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 3: But they're okay.

1212
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: There's a sign tipping Melbourne. Yeah, I think I'm doing

1213
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: Melbourne as well, but like Carlton have more to win,

1214
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 4: but I think it's to feel good. I'd like either

1215
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: tend to win.

1216
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 3: This is a fifty eight to fifty six sort of

1217
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 3: final score and cold MTG.

1218
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's similarish to Wesen and Richmond Saturday.

1219
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: Don't even bring that about that.

1220
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: West Coast and Richmond on Saturday night for the Patrick

1221
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 2: Nash Cup.

1222
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: Yes, the one, the one thing that made that game

1223
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 3: even worse was that it meant that this game was

1224
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,959
Speaker 3: even less relevant because at least West Coast could dream

1225
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: of getting to three wins and catching Richmond. But they're

1226
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: not winning three of their last six. Don't be ridicted.

1227
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: West Coast have been okay in recent weeks.

1228
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 4: They have been.

1229
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 3: They have been the team more deserving of a win

1230
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 3: over the last six to eight weeks than Richmond. But Richmond,

1231
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 3: god essend, and when they did so, I think West

1232
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: Coast should win this really deserve to win a game

1233
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: at home, get their fans some joy.

1234
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, West Coast or West Coast.

1235
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of admiration for both coaches

1236
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: this year. Mcqualter at West Coast because clearly implemented a

1237
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: brand that is you know, you can certainly see some

1238
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: some green shoots their.

1239
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: Spots and him in the st kilt a box on during.

1240
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: To Ross and then I think Adam, He's flip the

1241
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: script a little bit on the certainly the external view

1242
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: on him. I think there was I think it was

1243
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: fair to say that there was some doubts on whether

1244
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 2: he could be a long term senior coach this time

1245
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: and his aura last year or yes, But I think

1246
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: I think he's been very impressive.

1247
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 4: Five wins. If they can win this and get to

1248
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 4: five wins, that's that's that's a big.

1249
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: Tick, massive win.

1250
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: This is where, yes, totally agree, you can be positive

1251
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 3: about it. But when you're a bad team like this.

1252
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 3: These are clearly the two worst teams in the comp

1253
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 3: and they've just sort of fallen their way into four wins.

1254
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 3: It just happened sometimes, So don't get completely distracted, like

1255
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: if they could lose more games next year, fall in

1256
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 3: their way into this year four Like just face played

1257
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: the whoops, we won four games.

1258
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 4: He's saying, isn't as a result of the rest of

1259
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 4: the competition.

1260
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that Carlton just did weird crap in that

1261
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 3: first round one game and lost you know things like that,

1262
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 3: and they caught Gold Coast on the hop and beat

1263
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: them at Marvel like results that don't make any sense

1264
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: when you look with them now. But it just suddenly happened,

1265
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 3: and yes, they did a lot right in those nights.

1266
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 3: I'm saying they didn't deserve to win those games, But

1267
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 3: the win total is not the most important thing when

1268
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: you're a really bad team. It's the percentage. These teams

1269
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 3: are basically equal one percentage.

1270
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been thumped it in a lot of games,

1271
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: so it's more not necessarily then overestimating themselves. It's the

1272
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: external view that we can't get too excited by what

1273
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: Richmond has done.

1274
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: There would be every possibility that these wind totals switch

1275
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 3: and Richmond's on one win right now, and we're saying

1276
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: he's struggling, isn't he, even though they would not be

1277
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: very different of a team at all.

1278
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 4: For me, it's probably I agree with everything you just said,

1279
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: the ceiling that we can see in Richmond, though, like

1280
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 4: two beta Gold Coast outfit with the team that they did,

1281
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 4: I don't think we'd ever see expect West Coast to

1282
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 4: do the same thing.

1283
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 3: They've been okay against some very good teams that were

1284
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 3: beating Brisbane for large portions of that game. At the goer,

1285
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 3: we're contending against Collingwood, get that Marvel. You know they've

1286
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: had they just haven't got over the line.

1287
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: Geelong and since Kilda fox Foot exclusive game on Sunday,

1288
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 2: Ryan Gamble Cup up for grabs.

1289
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: Here cuts just have to win, massive, massive stat ping here,

1290
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: here we go. Geelong have won all twelve games at

1291
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 4: GMHBA Stadium against Saint Kilda this century. Yes, thank Kilda.

1292
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 4: Haven't beaten a Geelong down at GMHBA. In your park.

1293
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: I reckon. I was at the first Geelong since Kilda

1294
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: game this century, a cot in your park. I reckon.

1295
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 2: If you look, if you're afl tables it now, I reckon.

1296
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: Peter Spider Everett kicked nine goals in a losing side

1297
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 2: and Ronnie Burns, my all time favorite footballer, kick the

1298
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: most beautiful left foot check side goal right right in

1299
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: front of me, in the forward pocket.

1300
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: Right in front of me, round two two thousand, in

1301
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 3: your park, your long vs and killed it. Yeah, that's

1302
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 3: win by forty Yes. Peter Everett kicks nine yes, nine,

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00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 3: six shots on goal, eighteen dismissals.

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00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 4: Oh my god, here's a serious ford and Ronnie Burns

1305
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 4: kicks three.

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00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 4: I was doing this and this was like peak heaven.

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00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 4: They've also lost twenty eight to the last thirty two

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00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 4: games on there, which dates all the way back to

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00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy eight.

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00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 3: Well we know what the nineteen seventy eight Saints were.

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00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 4: Like of course, yes, yeah, we're all familiar with them.

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00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: Geelong two years after Grand they would have played a

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00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: Grand finally as t Hawthorn nineteen seventy six's I'll.

1315
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 3: Take your word for it, I remember them. I love no, No,

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00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: keep in mind that's Kilda.

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00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: Did you know is Hawthorne North Melbourne seventy one was Hawthorne?

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00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: Soon Kilner won.

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00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 4: Three of the last four is I think what you

1320
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 4: were about to win? Similar? So they beat them earlier

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00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 4: this year I did.

1322
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 3: And the funny thing about Geelong, like I talked about

1323
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: how their draw has been so easy, but they've lost

1324
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 3: all of these games to the teams they double up against.

1325
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: So they got to actually take advantage of it to

1326
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: finish the top.

1327
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: Four Collingwood and Fremantle for the Jack Anthony Cup.

1328
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 4: That's just that name hurts will it is the I mean,

1329
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 4: I'm happy to put this on public record. When I

1330
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 4: was a child, it was two thousand and nine. This

1331
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 4: is the only time I've ever cried of a football match.

1332
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 4: Was Jack Anthony kicking that goal in the semifinal. Andy

1333
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 4: Otton's been rutten contested marking contest is from fifty.

1334
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: Five and Ben Cotton just it's his birthday to day

1335
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: as well. Just said it is the greatest game of

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00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: football he's ever been too.

1337
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: Wasn't he twenty three Grand Final?

1338
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: Oh no, sorry, I tear it back. I think he

1339
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: said the greatest, like most fonnest commentary moment. I think

1340
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: he had a quarters calling it.

1341
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 4: Then, yeah, yeah, that sounds about right. Char Ten, I

1342
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 4: was eight nine year old, killed me anyway.

1343
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: Who wins Collingland freemant.

1344
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 3: I cried at the Peter Riccardi game after the siren

1345
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: when they won, when they won, well, I was crying

1346
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: before he kicked it, and then it was years of joy.

1347
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: I was a very I was a very prone to

1348
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: crying child. Collingwood wins this. I would like to think

1349
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 3: that Frio makes this interesting, but I just get the

1350
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: feeling that Collingwood like a bit.

1351
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: Of a reality check against the Suns last week.

1352
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, little yeah, and like a game that they probably

1353
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: should have won. Two of their three losses this year

1354
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: they won on expected score. Collingwood have become the unlucky

1355
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: team interesting, surely not interesting.

1356
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 4: I agree with bax large thing that Fred would make

1357
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 4: it interesting, but I think Colin would get over the

1358
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 4: line and.

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00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: We finish with.

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00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 3: No.

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00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: Brisbane Bulldogs might be game of the Round, but this

1362
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: would be pretty close as well. A fun Adelaide Gold

1363
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: Coast Nathan Boch Cup up for grabs here. This was

1364
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: an excellent game in the corresponding fixture earlier in the

1365
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: year that was Game of the Year.

1366
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 3: Maybe it's been overtaken by a couple of pretty good

1367
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 3: ones since, but you know the controversial and thrilling finish it.

1368
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 4: Yes, people had to have a cup from this season,

1369
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 4: it would be the Raleigh Philip mac Andrew Cup.

1370
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 3: Yes, I'll be fighting for it again.

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00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: I think Philip's had this date on the calendar circle

1372
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 4: for a little while.

1373
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I think there is motivation for Adelaide to put

1374
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 3: a score on the Suns in some sort of revenge.

1375
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: Yes, and it does, perhaps aided by the fact Gold

1376
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 4: Coast have never beaten the Crows Adelaide Oval and by extension,

1377
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 4: they've never won at the Adelaide Oval in eleven.

1378
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: Was that the team they were the last team they

1379
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 3: hadn't beaten the Suns.

1380
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 4: I feel like, yes, for a long long time they

1381
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 4: lost their first ten or so games.

1382
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: It was like during during COVID, I want to say,

1383
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: when the Crows at the absolute bottom. Yeah, yes, times

1384
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 3: that was when the Sons were like three and oh

1385
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 3: and it was the COVID season. We're like, what's happening?

1386
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 4: Everything's crazy?

1387
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: They fell off, well, the Suns because the Son I

1388
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: was looking up the Sons playing their first ever standalone

1389
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: game on a Friday night. They did play on a

1390
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: Friday night back in twenty twenty one against Adelaide at

1391
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: the Adelaide Oval. How does that happen? Of course it

1392
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: was a good Friday game North Melbourne.

1393
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 4: Good Friday. Yes, the Gold Coast Sons and La Crows.

1394
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: That's right. So the run home will be back on

1395
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: Sunday night. You still motivated for the run home though, Actually,

1396
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: despite the lack of no.

1397
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: It's fine. It's a nineteen race. If Rio, I'm fine,

1398
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 3: so Pasking, I'm fine. If Freo had lost, it would stink, yes,

1399
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 3: but no, there is a genuine race here. Like if

1400
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 3: one team falls over, sure it gets a bit less dramatic,

1401
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 3: but no, there is some excitement here. I'm so excited

1402
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: that I'll be riding it while I'm over overseas in

1403
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 3: Bali over the next two weeks.

1404
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: Oh yes, so you will be here next week, correct.

1405
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 3: For the next two so someone else has to produce

1406
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: the pot.

1407
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: We can do that, we can organize it.

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01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: Enjoy h and I'll be getting away from the Melbourne weather,

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01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 3: which has been.

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01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,000
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