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Speaker 2: Hello, Gordeous Legends, and welcome to another episode of the
Speaker 2: Village Crazy Lady.
Speaker 3: This week I have.
Speaker 1: A very special Village Crazy boy.
Speaker 2: David the Medium or David Stephen two is a very
Speaker 2: very renowned medium, probably the most renowned medium in all
Speaker 2: of Australia. He's literally just done the Opera House, Like,
Speaker 2: what was that, like, the first medium ship show at
Speaker 2: the Opera House?
Speaker 1: Is that right, David?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well first, and thank you for having me on. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was the first Australian medium to do a theater show.
Speaker 4: They're in one of the big theaters and the second
Speaker 4: medium in general since nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 3: That is so cool.
Speaker 2: Can I actually just ask what it's like to read
Speaker 2: for a live show, like how do you even prepare
Speaker 2: for it? And what does it feel like? As a
Speaker 2: medium standing up there, like reading the energies in the
Speaker 2: room and knowing like you know who's coming through, who
Speaker 2: to read for?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's such a fascinating question because even
Speaker 4: for me, like live chows is something I wanted to
Speaker 4: do for years and years and years, and I only
Speaker 4: started properly planning it this year. And when I had
Speaker 4: my first one in March down here in Melbourne, I
Speaker 4: didn't know how it was going to go. I've never
Speaker 4: done a big audience like that before, Like we all
Speaker 4: saw it on you know TV, for example John Edwards
Speaker 4: in the nineteen nineties, Like we know it can be done.
Speaker 4: We've seen sort of other mediums do it. But to
Speaker 4: be able to get up in front of an audience
Speaker 4: in Melbourne at that stage, which was three hundred people,
Speaker 4: and I was like, am I going to get hounded
Speaker 4: with spirits? Am I going to be in a fetal
Speaker 4: position on the stage like just like oh my god, guys,
Speaker 4: stop stopped up. But it was really great, Like the
Speaker 4: crowd itself was so engaging, so interactive. They had such
Speaker 4: a great energy to them as well, And I kind
Speaker 4: of lay the game plan with spirit before I got
Speaker 4: out there. I was like, Okay, we've got three hundred
Speaker 4: people in the room arguments stake. At least every one
Speaker 4: of those people has probably you know, two to three
Speaker 4: people in spirits, and we've probably got like a thousand spirits. Yes,
Speaker 4: And I was like, you just need to take it
Speaker 4: in terms like we can't be having everyone yell at once.
Speaker 4: But I mean, you know what it's like as well.
Speaker 4: Scripts was very respectful. I don't have any of them
Speaker 4: talking all over each other, and it was just fun.
Speaker 4: Like it's kind of like I say, from the very
Speaker 4: start of the shows anyway, no one spirit is more
Speaker 4: important than the other. Like every single message is important
Speaker 4: to hear. Every single message has relevant not only for
Speaker 4: the people that I'm reading in the crowd, but for
Speaker 4: the whole crowd as a whole. And they I used
Speaker 4: to word prioritize that it's not a priority sys because
Speaker 4: everyone's message is important, but they just take it one
Speaker 4: by one and we just worked through the crowd, and
Speaker 4: the messages are so specific and so random that it
Speaker 4: only really makes sense to one person in particular anyway.
Speaker 4: So it's just it's such a great experience and I'm
Speaker 4: just so not only grateful to be able to do it,
Speaker 4: but just to have that interaction with people, it's just spectacular.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy with it.
Speaker 3: Yes, I love that so much.
Speaker 2: I always wondered, like, and was it such a thing
Speaker 2: that you just had to completely trust, like go into
Speaker 2: it going like I just have to do this first one,
Speaker 2: and I just know I'm just going to have to
Speaker 2: fucking figure it out as I go.
Speaker 4: Basically, I mean that was the thing because because it
Speaker 4: was something that I had wanted to do for a
Speaker 4: long time, I knew instinctively that it was going to
Speaker 4: go well. Like I just knew that it was going
Speaker 4: to be such a great experience, not only for me,
Speaker 4: but you know, ideally for everyone in the tendance as well.
Speaker 4: And you know, as we were sort of saying, when
Speaker 4: it comes to preparation and planning, like you can't prepare
Speaker 4: for it, you can't plan for it. There's nothing that
Speaker 4: I can do beforehand that's you know, helping me like
Speaker 4: learn the script or learn my lines or you know,
Speaker 4: work out my placement on stage, because it's it's I
Speaker 4: get out there and we just have to roll with it.
Speaker 4: Like I obviously energetically that they're beforehand, and you know,
Speaker 4: we do all our woo woo sort of spiritual things
Speaker 4: behind the scenes, but once you get out on the stage,
Speaker 4: there's no script. You don't know how it's going to go.
Speaker 4: You don't know what's going to come up, and that's
Speaker 4: its starting part. I think. I love.
Speaker 2: I feel like so much of our job and what
Speaker 2: we do is so based in trust and because like
Speaker 2: you literally, I like, even before I do a healing
Speaker 2: or reading or whatever it is, you always like going
Speaker 2: going I have no fucking idea what I'm going to receipt.
Speaker 1: Like I literally feel like I'm going in blind.
Speaker 2: All I can do is just be really open to
Speaker 2: trusting whatever comes through from spirit. How is your journey
Speaker 2: into realizing that this was something that you can do?
Speaker 2: And like, how did you realize that what you were
Speaker 2: experiencing was you, you know, connecting with spirit or connecting
Speaker 2: with dead people?
Speaker 1: Basically, I mean, you.
Speaker 4: Raise such a great point there because for me, like
Speaker 4: my whole background, so for those who don't know, like
Speaker 4: I had a very corporate background. I worked in legal
Speaker 4: corporate predominantly for most of my twenties, you know, from
Speaker 4: eighteen to thirty. Basically I worked in a corporate role
Speaker 4: and that's so structured and I think you know, I
Speaker 4: mean knew yourself, but also everyone else listening is we
Speaker 4: understand the corporate structure. We understand what it's like to
Speaker 4: have the nine to five do this, do this, and
Speaker 4: like we don't necessarily as we're in that environment, you're
Speaker 4: not necessarily taught to think for yourself in that makes sense.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you've got free will and everything, but
Speaker 4: everything's so structured. And we do this and you know,
Speaker 4: legals deadlines, deadlines, deadlines, work work, work, the work doesn't
Speaker 4: change because legals most blooded. My boring job on the planet,
Speaker 4: Like there's no great it, so you knowactly what you're
Speaker 4: doing when you've got to do it. And for me,
Speaker 4: like I got told, I didn't even know, but I
Speaker 4: got told in my mid twenties that I by the way,
Speaker 4: you realize you can do this by another medium who
Speaker 4: told me. And it wasn't something that I was experienced with,
Speaker 4: Like I didn't grow up with spirits at the end
Speaker 4: of my bed. I never heard anything as a child,
Speaker 4: Like my intuition and guard feeling was always very strong
Speaker 4: as a teenager especially, but I just never saw spirituality
Speaker 4: or mediumship or that whole environment as something not only
Speaker 4: that I could do, but anything that would be a
Speaker 4: pathway within a career for me or a soul journey
Speaker 4: for me. And the biggest thing again was trust because
Speaker 4: you know, when I'm learning how to do it, because
Speaker 4: I was in the mentoring class to be able to
Speaker 4: get up in front of at that stage, which was
Speaker 4: a small group of like five people, but just to
Speaker 4: really hone in and trust in what you're feeling, what
Speaker 4: you're sensing, what you're wanting to stay, the emotions that
Speaker 4: are going through your mind, the feelings that you're getting
Speaker 4: all over your body. It is like a muscle, like
Speaker 4: the more that you pay attention to it, the more
Speaker 4: that you flexed it, the stronger that it will get.
Speaker 4: And I think for me at the very start, like
Speaker 4: even though it was so unknown and you don't know
Speaker 4: how it was going to go, I had this natural
Speaker 4: excitement by it and it was something that I found
Speaker 4: even for me like just so beneficial to my own
Speaker 4: understandings of life, Like I was so black and white
Speaker 4: and so like this is how the world is and
Speaker 4: this is how it should be. I don't and then
Speaker 4: to be opened up to this whole field of gray
Speaker 4: and outside the box. It's fascinating and it's something that
Speaker 4: even now, even though I've been in this environment, what
Speaker 4: fourteen years nearly, I'm still learning. I'm still growing. Like
Speaker 4: I may have honed in my skills in the very
Speaker 4: particular way, but I'm sure it's the same for you.
Speaker 4: Like every single time we sit down with clients, I'm
Speaker 4: still gaining things every single days. And it's not something
Speaker 4: that I ever want to get to, you know, I
Speaker 4: know everything. I'm like, I can't grow anymore, Like fuck no,
Speaker 4: like I want to. I still want to be learning things.
Speaker 4: Fifty is now my plan wasn't sory a tirate forty?
Speaker 4: Like I want to be doing readings when I'm eighty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's almost like once you sort of
Speaker 2: delve into it and I can relate to so much
Speaker 2: of your experience and just like the trusting and it
Speaker 2: is like such a muscle, you know, like it's something
Speaker 2: that and because spirit communicates and almost these like in
Speaker 2: science and symbols and this side means this and that
Speaker 2: side means that. And you know, if you're feeling this
Speaker 2: in your body and you kind of have to like
Speaker 2: kind of follow, at least for me, like sort of
Speaker 2: follow the dots, and the longer that you're doing it,
Speaker 2: and the more that you're doing it, you understand what
Speaker 2: all of that means, and then it just becomes this real.
Speaker 3: Sort of like it's a script that you know, and it's.
Speaker 2: This relationship that you have with spirit that is like
Speaker 2: just so it's like dating, you know, when you're dating
Speaker 2: someone for the first time and you're understanding how the
Speaker 2: other person can communicates, and then you move in with
Speaker 2: each other and you're like figuring out, you know, what
Speaker 2: they do and how they do it, and it's the
Speaker 2: kind of like that's what it felt like for me.
Speaker 2: You know, we were just really getting to know each
Speaker 2: other in a level.
Speaker 1: Where it's like, oh, okay, this bitch.
Speaker 2: Is actually listening now, like about fucking time we had.
Speaker 4: A love, you know, and like that's a good analogy.
Speaker 2: It's so true though, and then you eventually kind of
Speaker 2: like really get so comfortable with each other and you
Speaker 2: get to a stage where like you're making jokes, everyone's
Speaker 2: having a great.
Speaker 1: Time, like they really just I don't know. That's how
Speaker 1: it feels like for me.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, because I you know, you make
Speaker 4: such a good point. It kind of is like dating,
Speaker 4: and I've never looked at it like that, but you
Speaker 4: get to know each other and it is a game
Speaker 4: of translation at the end of the day, like Spirit
Speaker 4: will instantly show me symbols or they will say things
Speaker 4: like instantly know what they mean by showing me that.
Speaker 4: And even though every soul journey in the physical world
Speaker 4: is different, like we're all humans and we're all very different,
Speaker 4: once you return to the life or return home, as
Speaker 4: I say, there is that oneness again. So every spirit
Speaker 4: instinctively knows how to react with us because they've done
Speaker 4: it before. If that makes them said that, they might
Speaker 4: not have ever spoken to us directly before. The energy
Speaker 4: of the soul hats so when they're coming forward to
Speaker 4: use us as the mediums, they know what where about.
Speaker 4: They know how we translate things, and they know how
Speaker 4: to utilize that and take advantage of that as well.
Speaker 4: Like I'm sure it's the same for you, but I
Speaker 4: would say spirit uses my brain like a library, not all.
Speaker 4: And I think it's great in that sense because I
Speaker 4: wasn't always a medium, so I have what I call
Speaker 4: the civilian life beforehand. And the more that I'm able
Speaker 4: to be worldly or educate myself on different topics or
Speaker 4: to read about all these different things. Spirit can utilize
Speaker 4: that in their brain in my brain as well to
Speaker 4: be able to relay messages. So I think it's important
Speaker 4: for all spiritual people to also look at the box
Speaker 4: in the human life as well, because I regardless of
Speaker 4: our spiritual understandings, we're still human at the end of
Speaker 4: the day anyway, and we have to enjoy the human
Speaker 4: experience and have to enjoy the human life.
Speaker 2: So oh yes, I mean I always say to everyone,
Speaker 2: like literally, the whole point of us being here is
Speaker 2: to be human and have a human experience, not to
Speaker 2: like escape it or ascend it and be better than it,
Speaker 2: because otherwise, like why be here?
Speaker 4: Exactly right? I mean the spiritual ego that some of
Speaker 4: the some of the people can inverted comments up and
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, I've escaped the matrix and I understand,
Speaker 4: like the FREDA and it's like, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 4: Like it's sort of like it's this spiritual ego that
Speaker 4: I find out so many people have, and you know,
Speaker 4: I'm generalizing, maybe maybe not so many people have it,
Speaker 4: but it's regardless of your understandings. It doesn't make you
Speaker 4: more advanced or switched on than anyone else. Like everyone's
Speaker 4: here for their own journeys. Some people whose life journey
Speaker 4: or their soule journey this time around, maybe they're not
Speaker 4: even meant to have a clue that spirituality they're learning
Speaker 4: that would things like this is the thing. So it's
Speaker 4: just because you've got a spittual understanding. It doesn't make
Speaker 4: you a better human. It doesn't. It definitely does make
Speaker 4: you a better human, but it doesn't make your soul
Speaker 4: ball or advanced either, Like we've got to remember rules
Speaker 4: still human rule, still learning. Just because we may be
Speaker 4: mediums and maybe okay, ninety nine percent of the population
Speaker 4: is doing that day by day, Does it make me
Speaker 4: any better than anyone else? Absolutely not. Does it make
Speaker 4: me understand like differently? Probably, But does it make that
Speaker 4: other people not understand life differently? No, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: It's just it's this really cool thing that I can do.
Speaker 4: But some people can play basketball very well and I
Speaker 4: can't do that.
Speaker 2: So yes, yes, yes, yes, And I also feel like
Speaker 2: because you'll probably you get this probably all the time,
Speaker 2: where people.
Speaker 1: Like you have such a gift, like it's.
Speaker 2: Almost like they look at you like you're like the
Speaker 2: chosen one and like it's like you were bestowed and
Speaker 2: like it is like I guess a gift and an
Speaker 2: ability and everything else, but I guess you're like me.
Speaker 2: We kind of came out of the broom closet later
Speaker 2: in life. It's not like we sort of flew out
Speaker 2: of the womb with like a fucking broom in our hands,
Speaker 2: and you know, we're like crystals upper ass and we
Speaker 2: were like connecting to the fucking whoever. You know, it
Speaker 2: was like just this sort of like real journey and
Speaker 2: this lart thing. And I'm sure it's the same for you,
Speaker 2: Like that very human experience that you had until you
Speaker 2: really sort of realize what.
Speaker 1: It was that you're experiencing. Was that what it was?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Do you once you kind of realized and had that
Speaker 2: moment you kind of looked back on your life and went, oh,
Speaker 2: is that what all of that was?
Speaker 4: Because to be able to look at certain life lessons
Speaker 4: that I've been through or certain experiences, it definitely puts
Speaker 4: it into a new light and a new perspective now
Speaker 4: to sort of not underly understand why things happen the
Speaker 4: way that they did, but also the impact that it's
Speaker 4: had on my soul journey as well. And you know,
Speaker 4: even to touch on the other point that you made,
Speaker 4: everyone's like, oh, You've got such a gift, and then
Speaker 4: sort of like, I absolutely do see it a gift
Speaker 4: because I'm grateful for it and it is something that's
Speaker 4: incredibly special. But I, like you, I'm sure or of
Speaker 4: the deep understanded that every single person can do what
Speaker 4: I do. And I say this constantly, like we're all
Speaker 4: souls having a human experience. We're not humans having a
Speaker 4: spiritual experience by being able to connect with it. So
Speaker 4: even though it's something that is literally otherworldly, I understand
Speaker 4: the specialty and the fascination and the excitement behind it
Speaker 4: because you know, when we are connecting, we are literally
Speaker 4: connecting to other dimensions and other energies that maybe the
Speaker 4: eyes can't see. So there is that sort of uniqueness,
Speaker 4: that specialty to it. But everyone can do it, Like
Speaker 4: that's the thing, and that I can do it as
Speaker 4: this you know, I mean my early twenties is you know, conservative, gay,
Speaker 4: legal working person, Like you know what I mean, If
Speaker 4: I can do it, dis anyone can do it.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love that and I feel like it's such
Speaker 2: an empowering thing, like the concept of it being something
Speaker 2: that we all have access to and we will have
Speaker 2: the ability to do. Is there an experience or like
Speaker 2: a moment that you had and with spirit, whether it
Speaker 2: was like thrill reading, or whether it was someone who
Speaker 2: just paid you know, like a spirit that came to
Speaker 2: you that feels like really significant, or it was very
Speaker 2: just like holy shit, that was life changing, that was huge.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, as corny as it sounds, it's kind
Speaker 4: of like every reason I'm able to do. But especially
Speaker 4: at the start of my journey, when you are able
Speaker 4: to connect in a way and able to pass on
Speaker 4: information or connection or validations to someone and you know
Speaker 4: instantly feel their emotion changed behind it, and you instantly
Speaker 4: see the positive impact that has on their journey. Because
Speaker 4: the biggest thing of all through medium for me is
Speaker 4: a medium, is that every single time I sit down
Speaker 4: with someone, we are dealing with a lot of you know,
Speaker 4: really heavy emotions. There's grief, there's sadness, there's a lot
Speaker 4: of unfortunately guilty that a lot of people have when
Speaker 4: someone crosses over because I think as humans were so
Speaker 4: flawed that we and automatically think of the great times
Speaker 4: and think of all the benefits, and think of all
Speaker 4: the great journeys we had with someone. We instantly go
Speaker 4: into the element of like, oh, fuck, I should have
Speaker 4: done this. I can't believe I did that when I
Speaker 4: was twelve. Like I can't believe I talked I had
Speaker 4: that conversation with my mum when I was twenty. She
Speaker 4: must be so mad. Like we instantly think of all
Speaker 4: these things that we wish that we could change. And
Speaker 4: I think every reading I do has some level of that.
Speaker 4: And when I'm able to sit down with people, and
Speaker 4: especially at the start of my journey, and to be
Speaker 4: able to connect with spirit in that really beautiful way
Speaker 4: and be able to pass on those messages were spirits
Speaker 4: telling them to fucking let it go or don't stress
Speaker 4: or you know, okay, you think this, but I was
Speaker 4: doing this, and then for them to be able to
Speaker 4: look at it from a different perspective and to be
Speaker 4: able to provide as the medium like the middleman, that
Speaker 4: instant sort of peace or that clarification or that closure
Speaker 4: around set and topics and certain emotions and feelings that
Speaker 4: people have. I mean, that's what switched it to me,
Speaker 4: I understood that it wasn't necessarily a party trick that
Speaker 4: I could do with something that had this immense benefit
Speaker 4: to be able to be really healing and helpful for
Speaker 4: other people and again helping me learn along the way
Speaker 4: as well. So the readings at the very start will
Speaker 4: always kind of stick with me, especially in the mentoring classes,
Speaker 4: because it was a very lighthearted, sort of fun learning environment.
Speaker 4: But then you would be able to get these nuggets
Speaker 4: of wisdom and closure that spirit would be able to
Speaker 4: pass on to particular people in the mentoring class, and
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, this is cool, but it's also
Speaker 4: incredibly healing.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: It's like it's not even just the messages that you're relaying,
Speaker 2: which is so comforting and so healing to somebody, but
Speaker 2: even just in that experience alone.
Speaker 1: You're opening up their entire world.
Speaker 2: You're opening up how they see things, how they view themselves,
Speaker 2: how they view the universe, how.
Speaker 1: They view just like it. Just it's it's so significant.
Speaker 4: It really is because from a younger age, all of us,
Speaker 4: especially those of us within Western society, like we are
Speaker 4: taught the spirituality is so woo woo and it's so
Speaker 4: supernatural and it's actually really fucking scary because horror movies
Speaker 4: will exploit it, and it's sort of like the only
Speaker 4: exposure that we've had to mediums are usually crazy people
Speaker 4: dressed in velvet looking over a crystal ball. So society
Speaker 4: has shaped it to be something that is really on
Speaker 4: the fringe, or it's really sort of like just scary
Speaker 4: in some ways, or not beneficial in some ways, or
Speaker 4: just not able to use it as a tool to
Speaker 4: actually help us all the volt. And when we then
Speaker 4: have experiences with it directly and we're like, wow, I'm
Speaker 4: sitting down with it, just a very normal person who's
Speaker 4: able to actually pass on messages of love and support
Speaker 4: and guidance and clarity in a really comfortable, safe environment
Speaker 4: and helped me heal well. Suddenly it's sort of like,
Speaker 4: why have I've been going to therapy for twelve weeks
Speaker 4: because we just healed everything in twenty minutes with the medium, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, it's a little exposures like that, So it's
Speaker 4: it's its own benefits for every single person on the planet.
Speaker 4: I can definitely appreciate that everyone has a million in
Speaker 4: one views about it. I mean, you know, coming out
Speaker 4: as a gay man, for example, Like people take that
Speaker 4: one of two ways. They're either like, okay, you're gay.
Speaker 4: I don't support that, or you're gay and I support
Speaker 4: people understand what homosexuality is. In wait, I don't care
Speaker 4: what their opinion is, but I'm sure it's the same
Speaker 4: for you exactly. It doesn't change me, but I'm sure
Speaker 4: it's the same for you as well. Like you tell
Speaker 4: people you're a medium, I mean it goes one of
Speaker 4: fifty ways. Like they're curious about it, they think you're
Speaker 4: a fraud, they're scared of it, they're open minded, they
Speaker 4: don't actually have an opinion. They think it's a bit
Speaker 4: fucking weird. They really think it's cool, Like it's it's
Speaker 4: everyone's own journey, and it's everyone's own exposure to it.
Speaker 4: Now admittably, I look at mediumship and spirituality as you know,
Speaker 4: the top of the pyramid, like everything below it reacts
Speaker 4: to it. We're not exposed to it. We're not taught that.
Speaker 4: We can't actually harness the benefits from it. Not only
Speaker 4: you know, not every single person has to be a meeting,
Speaker 4: but if everyone can connect with you know, energy and
Speaker 4: connect with frequency and vibrations ality, like you can even
Speaker 4: use that to your own benefit. You don't even have
Speaker 4: to become like a raking master like you, or a
Speaker 4: healer like other people, or a medium like us. It's
Speaker 4: like you can actually just gain your own perspectives and
Speaker 4: benefits from it to actually positively shape your own line.
Speaker 4: And we're not taught that.
Speaker 2: Damn Amen. Mic Drop would not agree more.
Speaker 1: I would love.
Speaker 2: To chat it back, because like we've spoken about medium shit.
Speaker 2: But then like the psychic side is kind of like
Speaker 2: what does that look like for you? Because I'm always
Speaker 2: so intrigued how people receive information, how they see things,
Speaker 2: see timelines, and because you you see a lot of
Speaker 2: kind of worldly events and can kind of predict a
Speaker 2: lot and get a lot of information, So how does
Speaker 2: that even look like for you?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to describe mine, but I don't actually
Speaker 4: want you to describe yours, because I think it's going
Speaker 4: to be fascinated is. But yeah, for me, I the
Speaker 4: way that I look at light or you know, our
Speaker 4: soule journey. I don't know I did inverban Commas because
Speaker 4: it's actually so journey. But the way that I look
Speaker 4: at it, it's sort of like there's I say, it's
Speaker 4: life is a classroom for the soul, because the soul
Speaker 4: comes to this earthly realm and we're born into it,
Speaker 4: and there's key events, key lessons, key themes that we
Speaker 4: have to go through, and we chose to go through it.
Speaker 4: Some of it's incredibly fucking difficult and traumatic and you know,
Speaker 4: all the negative side of things, but our soul chose
Speaker 4: to go through it because it understood the learning and
Speaker 4: the evolution that it would get from it. So in
Speaker 4: that sense, when we are born as our first day
Speaker 4: on earth, the events for our life up until the
Speaker 4: moment that we have crossed over are essentially already destined.
Speaker 4: What we do have free will over is the path
Speaker 4: and the choices that we take to it that inevitably
Speaker 4: we're going to end up there anyway. So then there's
Speaker 4: a psychic. It's all energy and it's all frequency because
Speaker 4: this is all pre planned essentially and it's already out there.
Speaker 4: So then there's a psyche. I'm able to tune into
Speaker 4: that frequency to get visions per se, but also guidance
Speaker 4: on it, so essentially be able to foresee and predict
Speaker 4: future timelines. So for me as a psychic, especially when
Speaker 4: I'm tuning into world events. You know, those huge world
Speaker 4: events have a massive impact on millions slash billions of people,
Speaker 4: So they're very clear and the energy of it is
Speaker 4: very strong. So when I actually get it, though, it's
Speaker 4: usually in dreams like I used to go through the
Speaker 4: craziest dreams and also deep meditations, but also silly things.
Speaker 4: When I'm driving, I'll get downloads because I think the
Speaker 4: brain is so on autopilot. When I'm in the shower again,
Speaker 4: I'm on autopilot. And it's those moments when we're to
Speaker 4: ourselves and we're kind of thinking but on autopilot at
Speaker 4: the same time. It just allows the brain part of
Speaker 4: me to float into it. What I have noticed though,
Speaker 4: is especially since twenty twenty and especially the last really
Speaker 4: sort of six to twelve months, the timelines are a
Speaker 4: complete washing machine. Yes, like I can't like I can predict. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's sort of like how many things that will happen.
Speaker 4: Like I was like, oh, I don't think Trump's going
Speaker 4: to win. Then he had the ass and I'm like,
Speaker 4: He's definitely going to win, and then the week later
Speaker 4: the energy switching in. I'm like, that's just one example
Speaker 4: of a big world event that personal timelines aren't as nuts,
Speaker 4: but they're so fluid, and it's just it's fascinating to see.
Speaker 2: I relate like everything that you said. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you saw my facial expressions the whole time, everything
Speaker 2: from like spirit you know, you're getting downloads in the
Speaker 2: shower and in the car.
Speaker 3: They're my top two as well, like always happen.
Speaker 2: But what you were saying about the timelines being an
Speaker 2: absolute fucking washing machine over the last what do you
Speaker 2: say about six to twelve months, especially.
Speaker 4: The last six or twelve months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm wondering, do you think it's because people
Speaker 2: are starting to recognize their free will a little bit more?
Speaker 4: Well? I think yes, First and foremost, I think people
Speaker 4: are starting to realize that there's a lot more sort
Speaker 4: of pathways to their choices. But inevitably it won't change
Speaker 4: the outcome anyway. That's the thing. It's just something that's
Speaker 4: so fascinating. I mean to get it, you know, really
Speaker 4: deep into it and very woo woo. I believe it
Speaker 4: that multiple sort of timeline's happening all at once, so
Speaker 4: it's sort of like we're living in arguments. I believe
Speaker 4: probably seven different parallel universes all at once. There's different
Speaker 4: versions of you and me living different lives out there
Speaker 4: now that these mold together, not necessarily, but I think
Speaker 4: in some ways the energy of them can impact on
Speaker 4: each other. To look, at the start of the year,
Speaker 4: everything the washing machine seemed to go into a slower cycle,
Speaker 4: so it was a bit more easier to predict what
Speaker 4: was happening for me. And I've been interested in your
Speaker 4: opinion on this as well. But the United States has
Speaker 4: always been the spiritual ground zero, So anything that happened
Speaker 4: in the United States reverberates to run the world energetically anyway.
Speaker 4: Now we see that in day to day life with
Speaker 4: pop culture, politics, economics, and all those kinds of things
Speaker 4: that affect us, but from a spiritual perspective, anything that
Speaker 4: happens there inevitably goes around the world as well. So
Speaker 4: when we had the Trump assassination at ten, it was
Speaker 4: like the whole timeline that went back, and it was
Speaker 4: kind of like everything instantly switched. And because Trump is
Speaker 4: such a change character and probably a time traveler as well,
Speaker 4: it wouldn't surprise me. But the energy around him is
Speaker 4: so unique compared to anyone else there. So when that happened.
Speaker 4: It sent everything into a new timeline again. And I mean,
Speaker 4: for example, I predicted I mean, there's a video that
Speaker 4: I did in May last year staying that Joe Biden
Speaker 4: wouldn't be the candidate, and the reasons that I outlined
Speaker 4: outlined in that were the reasons why he's not there anymore.
Speaker 4: But I never saw Kamla Harris being there. And even now,
Speaker 4: and this is the funny thing, even though she is
Speaker 4: there now, I don't feel her there. It's sort of
Speaker 4: like it's like, what's happening here? So it's fascinating. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've definitely made my predictions and I've definitely got my
Speaker 4: my sort of downloads and ideas about what I think
Speaker 4: will happen that again, like I mean, who knows what's
Speaker 4: gonna happen tomorrow?
Speaker 1: And it does.
Speaker 2: It happened. It changes so quickly. It's so interesting. Like
Speaker 2: the Kamala of it, I always and I still I
Speaker 2: understand what you mean, like about it's like she's there,
Speaker 2: but she's not there, because how I was always shown it.
Speaker 2: There was like this energy of there was like this
Speaker 2: feminine figure, and I just kind of kept seeing Kamala.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it wasn't It's like she
Speaker 2: was there, but she wasn't there, and there was this
Speaker 2: like it was.
Speaker 1: A masculine figure of Behart.
Speaker 2: There was like a male that was really I don't
Speaker 2: even know, you know how You're like, I know what
Speaker 2: I see, trying to sort of like convey that because
Speaker 2: it's like it's yeah, translate it can be really difficult,
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I see exactly the same thing. I
Speaker 2: almost feel like last minute, it'll be like she'll be
Speaker 2: gone by and this guy will come through.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I I think you can also go the
Speaker 4: other way. It wouldn't surprise me that actually made her
Speaker 4: president before the election. Like its just the whole thing
Speaker 4: doesn't make sense. But it goes into the energetic power
Speaker 4: players as well. So even though she may be the figure,
Speaker 4: she's not in control. That's the thing. So there's the
Speaker 4: men behind her will be in control. So that's how
Speaker 4: I would probably translate what you're maybe even being shown.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about what do you see then like
Speaker 2: over the next up until like the end of the year,
Speaker 2: and then we can move into next year. But I
Speaker 2: feel like between now and the end of the year,
Speaker 2: shit is going to be wild.
Speaker 4: It was always for me because I talked about this
Speaker 4: at the end of twenty twenty three. I did say
Speaker 4: that the world in general is a bit crazy, but
Speaker 4: especially a merit that would probably go through the hardest
Speaker 4: year of its modern existence as a country. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: I think, I mean, what is the election. It's about
Speaker 4: seventy ish days away, Like I mean, what we now
Speaker 4: so where you know, the end of August at the
Speaker 4: moment as we're recording this, there is just going to
Speaker 4: be so much that pops up. I always predicted that
Speaker 4: there would sort of be two assassination attempts on Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: We've obviously had one. The second I can't imagine will
Speaker 4: be a shooting. Not to say that it won't be,
Speaker 4: but I think that there will be sort of other
Speaker 4: elements that play there behind the scenes. Would that be successful,
Speaker 4: I mean, imagine the chaos that that will. So if
Speaker 4: Donald Trump is assassinated, there's something still going on with
Speaker 4: Joe Biden. I mean, I don't think his time on
Speaker 4: Earth is that long. Be very fair, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: the power dynamics of that would happen if he actually
Speaker 4: did crossover before the election. I mean it's unlikely, but
Speaker 4: it's definitely possible then Kamala would be ascended as president
Speaker 4: right before the election. I mean, there's depending on how
Speaker 4: they want to get into it. There's a lot of
Speaker 4: power plays behind the scenes in America that are reverberating
Speaker 4: around the world. Already we see a tax on free
Speaker 4: speech all over Europe. I mean, there's issues in Australia
Speaker 4: with it again because it's a reverberation from everything that's
Speaker 4: gone on in the United States. I think Donald Trump
Speaker 4: is to be successful. I think either way, America will
Speaker 4: end up in the civil War energy for twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five onwards because it's just such a polarized country at
Speaker 4: the moment. So I think the next few months in
Speaker 4: general just the shit show. So imagine with America, like
Speaker 4: it's not even with everything else going on.
Speaker 2: Well, I've always it's so interesting because I've always said
Speaker 2: this like the same thing about America, Like I just
Speaker 2: America was just the thing that just kept coming up
Speaker 2: this year, and it felt like from a very energetic perspective,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a very growth time for America,
Speaker 2: Like really significant change is going to happen. And what
Speaker 2: happened this election, as you said, will kind of create
Speaker 2: this sort of civil war energy essentially, and like America's
Speaker 2: just going to be.
Speaker 1: Oh, it just feels very just like.
Speaker 2: A lot of big things, a lot of like I
Speaker 2: see a lot of uproar. It almost has this like
Speaker 2: revolution kind of like energy, but like the revolution sort
Speaker 2: of energy is more towards like.
Speaker 3: The next election cycle, Like it's going to be really.
Speaker 2: Interesting and it has like a young energy coming into it.
Speaker 2: And I guess like we are at a stage now
Speaker 2: where like that next generation is starting to come up,
Speaker 2: and you know, so like things are going to change.
Speaker 4: No, absolutely, I think the election, if it does happen
Speaker 4: in November, I think will be probably the pinnacle of
Speaker 4: polarization in America because it's what we've noticed with America,
Speaker 4: especially for our lives. I mean, every election has always
Speaker 4: kind of had the same results country wise, like the
Speaker 4: country's still gone into similar directions. I mean Barack Obama
Speaker 4: was probably the biggest change to that for decades. And
Speaker 4: then the viewpoints and the ideology and the energy and
Speaker 4: the spiritual energy behind both candidates now will send America
Speaker 4: in polar opposite direction. And the country is already divided.
Speaker 4: I mean I've spent a lot of time in America
Speaker 4: myself over the years. You know, I was even there
Speaker 4: this year, and you know, spend time a lot there
Speaker 4: last year. America is split into it really has and
Speaker 4: it both candidates represent such polar opposite viewpoints and it's
Speaker 4: an energy thing. I mean, Kamala Harris is more of
Speaker 4: a puppet and Donald Trump is definitely I mean, no
Speaker 4: one can control him. I mean again, the candidates themselves
Speaker 4: are polar opposite, so it would just be fascinating. I
Speaker 4: think either way twenty twenty five for America will there'll
Speaker 4: be conflict either way. So it's sort of like, you know,
Speaker 4: it's a pressure. Everything's been shook and we've dropped mentos
Speaker 4: in the pepsi and we've closed delivered, shook it up
Speaker 4: and eventually it's going to explode.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, How about Australia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Australia is it goes down the same line as
Speaker 4: the United States in a lot of ways. Well, but
Speaker 4: we're a lot more sort of submissive to sort of
Speaker 4: controlling factors here as well. So if there's a tax
Speaker 4: on freedom of speech, if there's a tax on you know,
Speaker 4: elements of censorship, Australians don't really seem to care, whereas
Speaker 4: the rest of the world of Europe and America especially
Speaker 4: kind of get really really you know, they rise up
Speaker 4: against it. So Australia's more of a laid that kind
Speaker 4: of country. I mean, I mean, I'm from Victoria, for example,
Speaker 4: and you know, we definitely notice a lot of things
Speaker 4: that happened here during COVID, but they are also the
Speaker 4: aftermath of COVID, and the general population of Melbourne just
Speaker 4: doesn't seem to give a ship that the country and
Speaker 4: the state especially has gone down the train in a
Speaker 4: lot of ways. There's there's this classic sort of Australian
Speaker 4: energy of she'll be right. You know, I imagine you and
Speaker 4: I likely around the same age. I mean, Australia that
Speaker 4: we grew up in was very different to the Australia
Speaker 4: now in the sense that we had this she'll be
Speaker 4: right attitude. No one got offended, No, everyone just kind
Speaker 4: of carried on, and you know that presented its own
Speaker 4: problems in some ways absolutely, But now even Australia as
Speaker 4: a country has completely swung the other direction where everyone's
Speaker 4: offended by everything and everyone's going to do this, and
Speaker 4: everything's a drama and we're so polarized and if someone
Speaker 4: else has a different opinion, where we must attack them
Speaker 4: like it's it's it's it's again the reverberation of energy
Speaker 4: that's coming out of the spiritual empire. So so to
Speaker 4: see what happens in Australia in the next twelve months,
Speaker 4: I mean, there's the continuation of everything we've seen at
Speaker 4: the moment. Issues. I don't predict that labor from a
Speaker 4: political perspective, I don't think Anthony Needs will win the
Speaker 4: next election. No, I agree, So I'll call that now
Speaker 4: because everyone seems, well, I'm glad that you agree, because
Speaker 4: everyone else like, oh no way, but like yeah, just
Speaker 4: I mean there's that, but the good thing, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's good and bad, but it is a good thing.
Speaker 4: At the same time, I think to some degree, a
Speaker 4: lot of Australian says disconnect from the bullshit. So it's
Speaker 4: like they don't necessarily have a strong political opinion. For
Speaker 4: the most part, Australians just want to be left alone.
Speaker 4: But in a world that's been created energetically from the
Speaker 4: spiritual perspective, it is about control. It is about the
Speaker 4: authority and energy that has come forward since twenty twenty
Speaker 4: one that doesn't necessarily gull with the classical Australian viewpoints,
Speaker 4: so there's elements of conflict that can arise with that
Speaker 4: as well. So economic situation in Australia is going to
Speaker 4: continue to be quite for the leadership in this country
Speaker 4: doesn't really exist the social division. It's still probably the
Speaker 4: best place on the planet's to be living. But it's
Speaker 4: not necessarily the easiest place on the planet, but it's
Speaker 4: still probably the best right now anyway.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's so true.
Speaker 2: The the feeling of like being left alone. I often
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 1: Because Australia, I guess we're so privileged. It's such a
Speaker 1: privileged country.
Speaker 2: I often't feel like that's almost such an element of
Speaker 2: it because it really there's so many people that politics
Speaker 2: doesn't actually affect that much, Like whether or not doesn't
Speaker 2: matter who's in power. And this is something that I've
Speaker 2: even had to really kind of like pull apart within myself,
Speaker 2: I guess, like my own privilege, right, Like I'm a
Speaker 2: white Australian, come from you know, middle class, like you know,
Speaker 2: I've really like not had to deal with that much
Speaker 2: in regards to that. But one thing I guess I've
Speaker 2: really realized is.
Speaker 3: That like.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter who wins or what happens politically, it doesn't
Speaker 2: really affect my life that much. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that it doesn't affect other people's lives. And it's the
Speaker 2: people who aren't as privileged as me who really does affect.
Speaker 2: And that was such an eye opener for me because
Speaker 2: I was, I guess, like I even doing the work
Speaker 2: that we do and like working with so many people
Speaker 2: and seeing like the collective energy and I don't know,
Speaker 2: like you just kind of see a lot more and
Speaker 2: you understand a lot more and so and I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm an Aquarius as well, so I just have this
Speaker 2: like this beating need inside of me to like just
Speaker 2: save humanity and help everybody.
Speaker 1: But it just kind of like made me realize how
Speaker 1: just because it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't affect me doesn't mean I shouldn't really start to
Speaker 2: get involved and take it seriously for others. And also
Speaker 2: the other thing being able to see what we can
Speaker 2: has really showed me is that things are a long game.
Speaker 2: And I think because people often are just seeing everything
Speaker 2: as a very much like they're wanting the results right now,
Speaker 2: even as far as an election is concerned, or you know,
Speaker 2: like you just have to pick the better of the
Speaker 2: two wrongs, So you just need to do whatever is
Speaker 2: going to work right now. But they're not seeing like
Speaker 2: change that you make right now might not affect you
Speaker 2: right now, but it could affect like your children's children.
Speaker 2: And I think like, yeah, that's been such a I guess,
Speaker 2: like being able to see things in such a such
Speaker 2: a bigger way, been able to see timelines and collective
Speaker 2: timelines and stuff like that. I'm like, oh, Okay, what
Speaker 2: I'm doing right now might not actually have any effect
Speaker 2: on me, but it put on my great grandchildren.
Speaker 4: No, absolutely, I think it's it's a really interesting point
Speaker 4: to make for everyone to really pay attention to the
Speaker 4: to the occurrences that are occurring now and the impact
Speaker 4: that that will have on our children and our children's
Speaker 4: children and our children children, because because we are to
Speaker 4: polarize energy at the moment that everything is up to
Speaker 4: washing machine and it's coming out a lot of different ways.
Speaker 4: So it's very mindful to be paying attention to that.
Speaker 2: Yes, have you ever had any experience with galactics?
Speaker 4: Oh? I, well, my best friend who I would love
Speaker 4: you to talk to, actually, Molly Jane. Yes, you know
Speaker 4: Molly Jane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need her on.
Speaker 4: I would love to have and hear a conversation between
Speaker 4: you and her. So she does collect connect part of
Speaker 4: me with the Galactic Federation, and she does a lot
Speaker 4: of work with otherworldly beans and aliens and things like
Speaker 4: that as well. Personally, I've seen them, but I haven't
Speaker 4: actually had a chit chat with them. You have to,
Speaker 4: I know, Well, I'm waiting. I'm fucking waiting.
Speaker 1: I talked to me the fact.
Speaker 4: Take me up there, take me to your spaceship.
Speaker 2: Honestly, literally, Oh it's so cool, Like that was probably.
Speaker 4: The most yours.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like people who have listened to the
Speaker 2: podcast have heard me talk about it before. But I
Speaker 2: speak mostly to the Palladians and like have a very
Speaker 2: close relationship with them three, especially one mostly And yeah,
Speaker 2: the way that they communicate, in the way that they
Speaker 2: bring through messages are very relevant to the evolution of humanity.
Speaker 2: They're like, not there just to hear about your problems
Speaker 2: or like help you with something that's going in your
Speaker 2: day to day life. They're like, this is what humanity
Speaker 2: needs to know. This is what you have to do
Speaker 2: to help evolve this is like and you know, going
Speaker 2: up to the space ship and like talking to the
Speaker 2: Galactic Federation. My son as well goes He's like, oh, mummy,
Speaker 2: we both went up to the ship last night.
Speaker 4: I love hearing that, Like.
Speaker 2: So cool, and you'll love this. He actually calls it
Speaker 2: they take my real body out. He calls his soul,
Speaker 2: his real body.
Speaker 4: How old is your son now?
Speaker 1: He is five?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's not human yet. So children up until
Speaker 4: five six seven, they're just they're not human like they
Speaker 4: they don't have social conditioning. They're completely open to energy,
Speaker 4: see in feeling and obviously connections. So it's fascinating. Kids
Speaker 4: are the real spiritual leaders of the planet.
Speaker 2: I could not agree more. Have you done do you do? Like,
Speaker 2: have you ever done a reading for a child?
Speaker 4: No? Not that young. The youngest I've done would probably
Speaker 4: be like early teens. Yeah, I kind of want them
Speaker 4: to read me instead. I mean, they're going to be
Speaker 4: picking up more than I could. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: I mean, and this is why again, women are so special,
Speaker 4: because like your wounds are portals to another dimension, Like
Speaker 4: you're bringing these souls into this world and the higher
Speaker 4: powers that couldn't handle men with that choice. You know
Speaker 4: that they think men had to give birth, the world's
Speaker 4: population would probably be about ten thousand people. We don't
Speaker 4: want to go through the pain, you know what I mean. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: women and other worldly and then they great this portal
Speaker 4: to bring these souls from other dimensions into this planet.
Speaker 4: And those souls aren't human until they're like seven anyway,
Speaker 4: because in the meantime they're just like floating around, being
Speaker 4: so absorbing of everything. It's just it's spectacular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: Well, so that's how it feels like as a mom,
Speaker 2: Like that's what I really realized with my kids and
Speaker 2: what really that's when my connection to spirit just really
Speaker 2: went next level. And I think that that often happened
Speaker 2: because like it's almost like you really open up that
Speaker 2: portal when you're pregnant and you're like, there's no way
Speaker 2: that there's not something else, and like people are connecting
Speaker 2: to their to their baby and their spirit babies, and
Speaker 2: like just that empowerment and that connection.
Speaker 1: Is so special.
Speaker 2: I feel like I have to talk about something because
Speaker 2: I don't know if you literally even remember this, but
Speaker 2: years and years and years ago, before i'd come out
Speaker 2: of the broom, closet. I did this thing like I
Speaker 2: literally had like I don't know, two thousand follows on
Speaker 2: Instagram or something, and I played this like fun game
Speaker 2: where I was like, I'm going to pretend to be
Speaker 2: Mickey the Medium and just like you can ask questions
Speaker 2: and I'm just going to And it was my way
Speaker 2: of going like of practicing without people knowing that I
Speaker 2: was practicing. And somehow you got wind of it or whatever,
Speaker 2: because obviously I was being Mickey the Medium because David
Speaker 2: the Medium and I was a big fan of yours
Speaker 2: and all of that, and you asked me a question.
Speaker 2: You were like, oh, okay, where am I going to
Speaker 2: move this? Like do you don't even want to know
Speaker 2: how much space in my brain this has taken David.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm fascinated by this.
Speaker 2: And it's so because at the time I remember and
Speaker 2: I said something about how you were like going to
Speaker 2: be moving to like this I see and I still
Speaker 2: actually do see this by the way, like something this
Speaker 2: big sort of block of land and it was near
Speaker 2: a vinyard. I always just see a vineyard and like
Speaker 2: you're near a vineyard and you're like, no, I'm moving
Speaker 2: to a unit by the beach and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Fuck, oh my god, I'm the worst. And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: but I saw by the beach. But it was just
Speaker 1: so it's so.
Speaker 2: Just like fascinating, just that journey and and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to have to bring this up because it's
Speaker 2: literally haunted me since it happened.
Speaker 3: But and also still to tell you, I still do.
Speaker 2: See you eventually moving somewhere near a vinyard and when that.
Speaker 4: So that's when you said that. Just then I was like, this,
Speaker 4: that's the dream, Like I would like to do that
Speaker 4: one percent have a bit of land and a pinion nearby.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to manage to be because
Speaker 4: I don't even know where to begin. But no, there's
Speaker 4: one around.
Speaker 3: It feels like it's like really close.
Speaker 2: It's like next door basically, or it's just like hobbing
Speaker 2: like ni. Yeah, but anyway, just so you know you
Speaker 2: are moving to a vinyard at some stage.
Speaker 4: I love that. I want you to read me properly,
Speaker 4: Like I don't get to talk to many medians, so
Speaker 4: I want to turn your I mean I want to
Speaker 4: read you as well, of course, but I kind of
Speaker 4: want you to read me.
Speaker 2: Oh we can take turns, we can do like a
Speaker 2: reading spot. Well, is there is there anything that like
Speaker 2: just one thing that's coming through.
Speaker 1: For you for me?
Speaker 4: Oh okay, let's well when you get up on the
Speaker 4: screen at the very start, I want to see where
Speaker 4: we go with this. Actually as well, So you did
Speaker 4: have an older female at the very start, and it
Speaker 4: there's a validation of like she probably comes into you
Speaker 4: already quite a lot. And she says, but I've never
Speaker 4: been able to really talk like this before. She's referencing
Speaker 4: the name like Laurie or like like she says, that's
Speaker 4: my man, that's the.
Speaker 2: Man, that's my my nana, and Laurie her husband, my grandfather.
Speaker 1: I knew. I was like, Nana will come through.
Speaker 4: Yeah, can hear from the start? Yeah, so uh I
Speaker 4: want to and she's referencing. It's all good. I can talk.
Speaker 4: I can talk. I'm like, you can talk this, you
Speaker 4: can talk? Yes? When like, can you talk to her directly? Yes?
Speaker 4: So I can't do that with my loved ones. Oh
Speaker 4: really yeah, Like I can sense them around and I
Speaker 4: will get downloads and indications, but I can't talk to
Speaker 4: them one on one.
Speaker 2: Interesting, I think she's she's the only one that I
Speaker 2: really do, and she's the only one that yeah, I've
Speaker 2: never really thought about that, but I can talk to
Speaker 2: her like I'm having a conversation with someone who's literally alive.
Speaker 4: I'm so jalous because that's what I want. But I
Speaker 4: find with a lot of mediums. I mean, I had
Speaker 4: a feeling that you probably could to be there, but
Speaker 4: I find a lot of us can't. So when her
Speaker 4: energy sort of came forward, I was like, I reckon,
Speaker 4: you can just actually talk to her. But yes, I
Speaker 4: know that she does comport as well. I would reference
Speaker 4: this as my mum's mum at the same time as well,
Speaker 4: because she's connecting with the feminine side of the family
Speaker 4: here as well, looking after my daughter. She's really proud
Speaker 4: of in a lot of ways with you, and it's
Speaker 4: nothing against Laurie or her like the man in her
Speaker 4: life as well. But when I look at you, she
Speaker 4: goes like this, So see, I'm going to really break
Speaker 4: in the chains and a lot of it for you.
Speaker 4: It is the lessons that you've learned on sort of
Speaker 4: like the ancestral female about how we sort of separate
Speaker 4: ourselves from like shit men, in particular, breaking the chains
Speaker 4: of feeling sort of subserviing to things. I mean, you
Speaker 4: may have thought about this with your audience podcasts and
Speaker 4: all that already, but you know when for example, I'm
Speaker 4: sorry the sound personal, but if I look at your
Speaker 4: father's energy, like, I'm just like a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 4: So they're really proud about how the lessons that you've
Speaker 4: learned through the trauma. Because I always say our gifts
Speaker 4: and I sort of was thinking this before when we
Speaker 4: were touching on childbirth. The spiritual gifts for a lot
Speaker 4: of people are born in trauma and childbirth. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: when we go through really bad traumas or also when
Speaker 4: we go through childbirth, it really enhances our connections and
Speaker 4: understandings with other energies and frequency. So for you spirit story,
Speaker 4: where does gen connect Jen?
Speaker 1: That's her name, Jen, Jennifer.
Speaker 4: Perfect, Yeah, okay, yeah, perfect. So where Jen goes with it,
Speaker 4: it's the element of been incredibly proud of my girl,
Speaker 4: which is you obviously, because it's sort of like being
Speaker 4: able to be there and be in her life for
Speaker 4: so long, which would indicate that she may cross over
Speaker 4: when you're an adult yourself. It's this understanding have been
Speaker 4: able to see her journey and especially now that I'm
Speaker 4: up here, David, she says, I'm so glad. I can
Speaker 4: just tell her how proud I am at that. Oh,
Speaker 4: and the ability to have the conversation or the conversations,
Speaker 4: the ability to have the conversations that we already have.
Speaker 4: She knows that I'm guiding. I'm guiding. There's a younger
Speaker 4: female around you as well at the same time, who's
Speaker 4: not your grandmother, obviously, but she does validate kind of
Speaker 4: being a bit in the distance a little bit. But yeah,
Speaker 4: Jenny in particular is just really dominating the reading. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I only said you've got three kids, he says. I
Speaker 4: think we're done. I think we're done, So I'll let
Speaker 4: you be the judge. Does that do you want for?
Speaker 2: I know, there's a little boy who really wanted to
Speaker 2: come through, and I was like, no, ye, don't.
Speaker 4: Tell me your mum's name. What's the first letter of
Speaker 4: your mum's name. Ay, Well, she's referencing my middle name,
Speaker 4: which is Andrew, So to translate that into female mum
Speaker 4: would be Andy or Andrea probably Andrea. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, names, Yeah, I know, because names for.
Speaker 4: Me was the thing that I wanted to connect with
Speaker 4: the most, because when I was learning names, It's all
Speaker 4: well and good to be like, Okay, i've got an
Speaker 4: older female, I'm doing the letter OL. But our personal
Speaker 4: connection with our love onnted spirit is through their name
Speaker 4: because that's how we associate, that's how we connect them with.
Speaker 4: So as a medium, at the very start, that was
Speaker 4: something I really got drawn into. I was like, you
Speaker 4: have to show me people that I know and I
Speaker 4: can associate the names, or we use pop culture for names.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't want to say we've got
Speaker 4: a female with a letter L or a male with
Speaker 4: a letter PL that you needed to show me people
Speaker 4: I love.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm also learning here because I get I struggle
Speaker 2: with the trust of names of like freaking out that
Speaker 2: I'm going to say it wrong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a big thing as well, because like
Speaker 4: as a medium, like I've done this full time for
Speaker 4: coming on eight years, and I want everyone listening who
Speaker 4: may be developing their skills or that maybe maybe more ready.
Speaker 4: Like even as David the medium, I still go into
Speaker 4: every reading shitty myself that I'm not going to feel
Speaker 4: any wow, Like it doesn't matter how long we've been
Speaker 4: doing it, how good other people, maybe even perceive us
Speaker 4: to be. How good we think that we are, Like
Speaker 4: it goes back to that one. We're still human and
Speaker 4: humans afford creatures. It's love, doubts, it's loved peers, We've
Speaker 4: we've got all that. Being a meetium doesn't change that.
Speaker 4: So it helps ground me at the same time as well,
Speaker 4: because I never want to even think that I'm the
Speaker 4: best ever anyway, you know what I mean. I still
Speaker 4: go into it being like, Okay, this is just like
Speaker 4: I don't know if what I'm saying is making sense
Speaker 4: to people, like not nervous per se, but I'm still like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I hope what I say it makes sense. I hope
Speaker 4: I get the connection right. I hope I pick up
Speaker 4: on every spirit the months to come forward, Like there's
Speaker 4: always those that in built fears for want of a
Speaker 4: better phrase, and fear doesn't exist like fear is a liar.
Speaker 4: Fear doesn't. This is an emotion per se. It's just
Speaker 4: something that we all create in our head that it's important.
Speaker 4: It helps ground us and it helps I think in
Speaker 4: some ways also want us to be better than we
Speaker 4: were yesterday as well, because it pushes and motivates us
Speaker 4: at the same time.
Speaker 1: I know we have to start.
Speaker 2: I know, like I've taken up so much of your
Speaker 2: time already, and I feel like we could probably talk
Speaker 2: for a thousand years. It's so fun getting to like
Speaker 2: even do this with other mediums, and like the constant learning.
Speaker 2: That was even a question that I had for you,
Speaker 2: like is there anything that you feel like you are
Speaker 2: excited to learn more about?
Speaker 4: I think that even though I've known I've been able
Speaker 4: to be a medium for coming on fourteen years and
Speaker 4: I've been full time for coming on eight, I fairly
Speaker 4: stretched the fucking surface, like I really ei, there's so
Speaker 4: many and I grew up we always been very inquisitive,
Speaker 4: like I like to think that I'm quite knowledgeable. I'm
Speaker 4: quite worldly, Like I love even before I was able
Speaker 4: to mid my love seeing things from other people's perspectives,
Speaker 4: because that's how I form my opinions on things, because
Speaker 4: then if I can look at both sides of the
Speaker 4: argument and then sort of be like, okay, well, I
Speaker 4: think that iligned more with that, Like I've always done
Speaker 4: that throughout life. But then when we come into spirituality
Speaker 4: and energy, and I mean it's like where do you
Speaker 4: even begin to be very pass that's the thing. It's
Speaker 4: sort of like there's just so much more that I
Speaker 4: want to delve into. Like I want to learn about aliens.
Speaker 4: I'd love to learn astrology. I don't even know how
Speaker 4: to do tarot properly. I'd love to learn tarot, like
Speaker 4: I want to talk to the galactic I want to
Speaker 4: like I want to understand the archaicic records. I want
Speaker 4: to do time traveling in my meditations, like you know.
Speaker 4: That's the thing. So I am an open book. At
Speaker 4: the same time, I'm excited for what's next because I
Speaker 4: know that I'm not going to say the same. I mean,
Speaker 4: the one constant anyone has in life is changed, Like
Speaker 4: we are always going to change, irregardless of whether we
Speaker 4: want to or not, and I want to. So I'm
Speaker 4: excited to see what comes next.
Speaker 2: Well, we should probably wrap it up because I know
Speaker 2: you've got shit to do, and it has been such
Speaker 2: an amazing chat though.
Speaker 1: It's been such an honor to have you on and be.
Speaker 2: Able to have this conversation, so thanks, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I know you've got shows coming up, and I'll have
Speaker 2: all of those in the show notes. But tell people
Speaker 2: how they can find you, how they can work with
Speaker 2: you access you all of that.
Speaker 4: No, thank you well. First and foremost is it an
Speaker 4: absolute pleasure to be a guest on your show. But
Speaker 4: if you would like to follow along, my Instagram is
Speaker 4: at David the Medium and I post a lot of predictions.
Speaker 4: They're also daily life updates is everything that's going on.
Speaker 4: Website is David at the Medium dot com and that's
Speaker 4: where all my readings are released when availability is available,
Speaker 4: availability develoable, and I also post on my live shows
Speaker 4: on YouTube, so it's our YouTube dot com plus at
Speaker 4: David the Medium of yt YT You've been two letters,
Speaker 4: so you can watch my live shows there for anyone
Speaker 4: that's interested in Yeah, follow along on Instagram, come to
Speaker 4: YouTube and yes, my next live show coming up will
Speaker 4: be Adelaide on September twenty one, so only one in
Speaker 4: South Australia, but there's a handful of cans still left
Speaker 4: to that, so come along to Adelaide and I will
Speaker 4: be in Melbourne again in November and then twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five we're going to go even bigger and larger.
Speaker 2: Yes, I cannot wait. I will absolutely be coming to
Speaker 2: a show for sure. Thank you so much, David.
Speaker 1: It's been such a pleasure.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much,