WEBVTT - The Dead Are Talking To You- Two Mediums Share Profound Information! 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:07.281 Apoge Production. 0:00:11.001 --> 0:00:13.961 I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady. 0:00:14.361 --> 0:00:17.480 People are talking to me and they are not physically 0:00:17.521 --> 0:00:20.841 in this room, so to just strap in for that. 0:00:21.001 --> 0:00:23.201 Can't call me crazy, so I said it first. 0:00:23.361 --> 0:00:26.160 Whoever's try to come through whatever messages need to come through, like, 0:00:26.281 --> 0:00:27.441 just bring it on, Let's do it. 0:00:28.281 --> 0:00:34.161 Crazy Crazy Crazy The Village Crazy Lay Podcast. 0:00:34.361 --> 0:00:38.240 Hello, Gordeous Legends, and welcome to another episode of the 0:00:38.361 --> 0:00:40.041 Village Crazy Lady. 0:00:40.081 --> 0:00:41.161 This week I have. 0:00:41.361 --> 0:00:44.201 A very special Village Crazy boy. 0:00:44.561 --> 0:00:49.001 David the Medium or David Stephen two is a very 0:00:49.361 --> 0:00:53.640 very renowned medium, probably the most renowned medium in all 0:00:53.641 --> 0:00:58.001 of Australia. He's literally just done the Opera House, Like, 0:00:58.161 --> 0:01:01.641 what was that, like, the first medium ship show at 0:01:01.681 --> 0:01:02.361 the Opera House? 0:01:02.441 --> 0:01:03.241 Is that right, David? 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.081 Yeah? Well first, and thank you for having me on. Yeah. 0:01:06.081 --> 0:01:09.800 It was the first Australian medium to do a theater show. 0:01:09.881 --> 0:01:13.561 They're in one of the big theaters and the second 0:01:14.161 --> 0:01:16.401 medium in general since nineteen seventy eight. 0:01:17.081 --> 0:01:18.041 That is so cool. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.000 Can I actually just ask what it's like to read 0:01:22.081 --> 0:01:24.241 for a live show, like how do you even prepare 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.761 for it? And what does it feel like? As a 0:01:26.801 --> 0:01:29.441 medium standing up there, like reading the energies in the 0:01:29.521 --> 0:01:32.321 room and knowing like you know who's coming through, who 0:01:32.321 --> 0:01:32.881 to read for? 0:01:33.601 --> 0:01:35.721 Yeah, I mean it's such a fascinating question because even 0:01:35.761 --> 0:01:37.761 for me, like live chows is something I wanted to 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.600 do for years and years and years, and I only 0:01:40.161 --> 0:01:42.800 started properly planning it this year. And when I had 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:47.521 my first one in March down here in Melbourne, I 0:01:47.601 --> 0:01:49.921 didn't know how it was going to go. I've never 0:01:50.001 --> 0:01:52.520 done a big audience like that before, Like we all 0:01:52.841 --> 0:01:56.121 saw it on you know TV, for example John Edwards 0:01:56.641 --> 0:01:58.681 in the nineteen nineties, Like we know it can be done. 0:01:58.721 --> 0:02:00.801 We've seen sort of other mediums do it. But to 0:02:00.881 --> 0:02:02.361 be able to get up in front of an audience 0:02:02.401 --> 0:02:04.721 in Melbourne at that stage, which was three hundred people, 0:02:04.801 --> 0:02:07.281 and I was like, am I going to get hounded 0:02:07.321 --> 0:02:08.721 with spirits? Am I going to be in a fetal 0:02:08.801 --> 0:02:11.240 position on the stage like just like oh my god, guys, 0:02:11.281 --> 0:02:13.761 stop stopped up. But it was really great, Like the 0:02:13.881 --> 0:02:18.281 crowd itself was so engaging, so interactive. They had such 0:02:18.281 --> 0:02:20.720 a great energy to them as well, And I kind 0:02:20.721 --> 0:02:22.761 of lay the game plan with spirit before I got 0:02:22.761 --> 0:02:24.561 out there. I was like, Okay, we've got three hundred 0:02:24.561 --> 0:02:28.441 people in the room arguments stake. At least every one 0:02:28.441 --> 0:02:30.321 of those people has probably you know, two to three 0:02:30.321 --> 0:02:32.881 people in spirits, and we've probably got like a thousand spirits. Yes, 0:02:34.201 --> 0:02:35.721 And I was like, you just need to take it 0:02:35.721 --> 0:02:37.960 in terms like we can't be having everyone yell at once. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.161 But I mean, you know what it's like as well. 0:02:39.201 --> 0:02:42.001 Scripts was very respectful. I don't have any of them 0:02:42.041 --> 0:02:44.601 talking all over each other, and it was just fun. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.440 Like it's kind of like I say, from the very 0:02:47.481 --> 0:02:50.120 start of the shows anyway, no one spirit is more 0:02:50.121 --> 0:02:53.520 important than the other. Like every single message is important 0:02:53.561 --> 0:02:56.441 to hear. Every single message has relevant not only for 0:02:56.601 --> 0:02:58.281 the people that I'm reading in the crowd, but for 0:02:58.321 --> 0:03:02.561 the whole crowd as a whole. And they I used 0:03:02.561 --> 0:03:05.321 to word prioritize that it's not a priority sys because 0:03:05.321 --> 0:03:07.161 everyone's message is important, but they just take it one 0:03:07.201 --> 0:03:09.561 by one and we just worked through the crowd, and 0:03:09.601 --> 0:03:12.641 the messages are so specific and so random that it 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.400 only really makes sense to one person in particular anyway. 0:03:16.561 --> 0:03:20.361 So it's just it's such a great experience and I'm 0:03:20.401 --> 0:03:23.521 just so not only grateful to be able to do it, 0:03:23.561 --> 0:03:26.800 but just to have that interaction with people, it's just spectacular. 0:03:26.881 --> 0:03:28.041 I'm so happy with it. 0:03:28.601 --> 0:03:30.041 Yes, I love that so much. 0:03:30.081 --> 0:03:32.641 I always wondered, like, and was it such a thing 0:03:32.641 --> 0:03:35.761 that you just had to completely trust, like go into 0:03:35.761 --> 0:03:39.121 it going like I just have to do this first one, 0:03:39.321 --> 0:03:41.561 and I just know I'm just going to have to 0:03:41.561 --> 0:03:42.801 fucking figure it out as I go. 0:03:43.681 --> 0:03:45.961 Basically, I mean that was the thing because because it 0:03:46.001 --> 0:03:47.361 was something that I had wanted to do for a 0:03:47.361 --> 0:03:50.881 long time, I knew instinctively that it was going to 0:03:51.121 --> 0:03:53.041 go well. Like I just knew that it was going 0:03:53.081 --> 0:03:54.921 to be such a great experience, not only for me, 0:03:55.041 --> 0:03:58.561 but you know, ideally for everyone in the tendance as well. 0:03:59.201 --> 0:04:01.601 And you know, as we were sort of saying, when 0:04:01.641 --> 0:04:04.521 it comes to preparation and planning, like you can't prepare 0:04:04.561 --> 0:04:06.281 for it, you can't plan for it. There's nothing that 0:04:06.321 --> 0:04:10.441 I can do beforehand that's you know, helping me like 0:04:10.641 --> 0:04:12.841 learn the script or learn my lines or you know, 0:04:13.041 --> 0:04:17.921 work out my placement on stage, because it's it's I 0:04:17.961 --> 0:04:19.761 get out there and we just have to roll with it. 0:04:19.961 --> 0:04:23.921 Like I obviously energetically that they're beforehand, and you know, 0:04:23.921 --> 0:04:25.841 we do all our woo woo sort of spiritual things 0:04:25.841 --> 0:04:27.921 behind the scenes, but once you get out on the stage, 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.320 there's no script. You don't know how it's going to go. 0:04:30.361 --> 0:04:33.561 You don't know what's going to come up, and that's 0:04:33.601 --> 0:04:36.121 its starting part. I think. I love. 0:04:36.281 --> 0:04:39.121 I feel like so much of our job and what 0:04:39.161 --> 0:04:43.121 we do is so based in trust and because like 0:04:43.161 --> 0:04:45.921 you literally, I like, even before I do a healing 0:04:46.001 --> 0:04:48.520 or reading or whatever it is, you always like going 0:04:48.601 --> 0:04:53.641 going I have no fucking idea what I'm going to receipt. 0:04:53.761 --> 0:04:55.961 Like I literally feel like I'm going in blind. 0:04:56.201 --> 0:04:58.841 All I can do is just be really open to 0:04:58.921 --> 0:05:02.880 trusting whatever comes through from spirit. How is your journey 0:05:03.121 --> 0:05:07.121 into realizing that this was something that you can do? 0:05:07.361 --> 0:05:10.481 And like, how did you realize that what you were 0:05:10.521 --> 0:05:14.961 experiencing was you, you know, connecting with spirit or connecting 0:05:15.001 --> 0:05:17.201 with dead people? 0:05:17.241 --> 0:05:20.041 Basically, I mean, you. 0:05:20.121 --> 0:05:23.921 Raise such a great point there because for me, like 0:05:24.081 --> 0:05:26.080 my whole background, so for those who don't know, like 0:05:26.121 --> 0:05:29.720 I had a very corporate background. I worked in legal 0:05:29.761 --> 0:05:33.080 corporate predominantly for most of my twenties, you know, from 0:05:33.081 --> 0:05:35.601 eighteen to thirty. Basically I worked in a corporate role 0:05:36.281 --> 0:05:39.400 and that's so structured and I think you know, I 0:05:39.401 --> 0:05:41.481 mean knew yourself, but also everyone else listening is we 0:05:41.561 --> 0:05:43.801 understand the corporate structure. We understand what it's like to 0:05:43.841 --> 0:05:45.880 have the nine to five do this, do this, and 0:05:46.681 --> 0:05:51.521 like we don't necessarily as we're in that environment, you're 0:05:51.561 --> 0:05:54.521 not necessarily taught to think for yourself in that makes sense. 0:05:54.561 --> 0:05:56.080 I mean, obviously you've got free will and everything, but 0:05:56.121 --> 0:05:58.161 everything's so structured. And we do this and you know, 0:05:58.281 --> 0:06:01.441 legals deadlines, deadlines, deadlines, work work, work, the work doesn't 0:06:01.481 --> 0:06:03.720 change because legals most blooded. My boring job on the planet, 0:06:03.801 --> 0:06:05.521 Like there's no great it, so you knowactly what you're 0:06:05.521 --> 0:06:07.440 doing when you've got to do it. And for me, 0:06:07.681 --> 0:06:10.440 like I got told, I didn't even know, but I 0:06:10.481 --> 0:06:13.121 got told in my mid twenties that I by the way, 0:06:13.161 --> 0:06:15.760 you realize you can do this by another medium who 0:06:15.761 --> 0:06:21.121 told me. And it wasn't something that I was experienced with, 0:06:21.281 --> 0:06:22.841 Like I didn't grow up with spirits at the end 0:06:22.841 --> 0:06:25.001 of my bed. I never heard anything as a child, 0:06:25.161 --> 0:06:27.960 Like my intuition and guard feeling was always very strong 0:06:28.001 --> 0:06:31.161 as a teenager especially, but I just never saw spirituality 0:06:31.241 --> 0:06:36.080 or mediumship or that whole environment as something not only 0:06:36.121 --> 0:06:38.041 that I could do, but anything that would be a 0:06:38.081 --> 0:06:42.081 pathway within a career for me or a soul journey 0:06:42.121 --> 0:06:46.161 for me. And the biggest thing again was trust because 0:06:46.561 --> 0:06:49.121 you know, when I'm learning how to do it, because 0:06:49.161 --> 0:06:51.801 I was in the mentoring class to be able to 0:06:51.801 --> 0:06:54.320 get up in front of at that stage, which was 0:06:54.361 --> 0:06:56.320 a small group of like five people, but just to 0:06:56.641 --> 0:07:00.681 really hone in and trust in what you're feeling, what 0:07:00.681 --> 0:07:03.561 you're sensing, what you're wanting to stay, the emotions that 0:07:03.561 --> 0:07:06.801 are going through your mind, the feelings that you're getting 0:07:06.841 --> 0:07:09.440 all over your body. It is like a muscle, like 0:07:09.481 --> 0:07:11.161 the more that you pay attention to it, the more 0:07:11.201 --> 0:07:13.561 that you flexed it, the stronger that it will get. 0:07:14.281 --> 0:07:15.881 And I think for me at the very start, like 0:07:16.081 --> 0:07:18.841 even though it was so unknown and you don't know 0:07:18.881 --> 0:07:20.681 how it was going to go, I had this natural 0:07:21.081 --> 0:07:24.840 excitement by it and it was something that I found 0:07:25.241 --> 0:07:27.521 even for me like just so beneficial to my own 0:07:27.601 --> 0:07:31.280 understandings of life, Like I was so black and white 0:07:31.281 --> 0:07:33.201 and so like this is how the world is and 0:07:33.201 --> 0:07:35.241 this is how it should be. I don't and then 0:07:35.281 --> 0:07:37.600 to be opened up to this whole field of gray 0:07:37.841 --> 0:07:42.281 and outside the box. It's fascinating and it's something that 0:07:42.361 --> 0:07:46.201 even now, even though I've been in this environment, what 0:07:46.481 --> 0:07:50.081 fourteen years nearly, I'm still learning. I'm still growing. Like 0:07:51.121 --> 0:07:53.841 I may have honed in my skills in the very 0:07:53.921 --> 0:07:57.281 particular way, but I'm sure it's the same for you. 0:07:57.321 --> 0:07:59.001 Like every single time we sit down with clients, I'm 0:07:59.001 --> 0:08:01.761 still gaining things every single days. And it's not something 0:08:01.761 --> 0:08:04.001 that I ever want to get to, you know, I 0:08:04.081 --> 0:08:07.401 know everything. I'm like, I can't grow anymore, Like fuck no, 0:08:07.601 --> 0:08:09.601 like I want to. I still want to be learning things. 0:08:09.681 --> 0:08:12.241 Fifty is now my plan wasn't sory a tirate forty? 0:08:12.321 --> 0:08:13.921 Like I want to be doing readings when I'm eighty. 0:08:14.521 --> 0:08:15.401 Yeah, I love that. 0:08:16.081 --> 0:08:18.921 I feel like it's almost like once you sort of 0:08:18.961 --> 0:08:22.321 delve into it and I can relate to so much 0:08:22.361 --> 0:08:25.521 of your experience and just like the trusting and it 0:08:25.681 --> 0:08:28.201 is like such a muscle, you know, like it's something 0:08:28.321 --> 0:08:31.801 that and because spirit communicates and almost these like in 0:08:31.961 --> 0:08:34.441 science and symbols and this side means this and that 0:08:34.561 --> 0:08:37.001 side means that. And you know, if you're feeling this 0:08:37.081 --> 0:08:38.641 in your body and you kind of have to like 0:08:38.801 --> 0:08:41.721 kind of follow, at least for me, like sort of 0:08:41.761 --> 0:08:45.241 follow the dots, and the longer that you're doing it, 0:08:45.321 --> 0:08:48.041 and the more that you're doing it, you understand what 0:08:48.081 --> 0:08:50.881 all of that means, and then it just becomes this real. 0:08:50.721 --> 0:08:54.161 Sort of like it's a script that you know, and it's. 0:08:54.041 --> 0:08:57.721 This relationship that you have with spirit that is like 0:08:57.921 --> 0:09:01.961 just so it's like dating, you know, when you're dating 0:09:01.961 --> 0:09:04.281 someone for the first time and you're understanding how the 0:09:04.321 --> 0:09:06.561 other person can communicates, and then you move in with 0:09:06.601 --> 0:09:10.201 each other and you're like figuring out, you know, what 0:09:10.281 --> 0:09:12.641 they do and how they do it, and it's the 0:09:12.721 --> 0:09:14.481 kind of like that's what it felt like for me. 0:09:14.681 --> 0:09:16.721 You know, we were just really getting to know each 0:09:16.721 --> 0:09:18.041 other in a level. 0:09:17.801 --> 0:09:19.601 Where it's like, oh, okay, this bitch. 0:09:19.361 --> 0:09:22.761 Is actually listening now, like about fucking time we had. 0:09:22.601 --> 0:09:26.001 A love, you know, and like that's a good analogy. 0:09:26.561 --> 0:09:29.001 It's so true though, and then you eventually kind of 0:09:29.041 --> 0:09:32.041 like really get so comfortable with each other and you 0:09:32.121 --> 0:09:34.801 get to a stage where like you're making jokes, everyone's 0:09:34.801 --> 0:09:35.601 having a great. 0:09:35.401 --> 0:09:38.521 Time, like they really just I don't know. That's how 0:09:38.561 --> 0:09:39.441 it feels like for me. 0:09:40.081 --> 0:09:42.681 And that's the thing, because I you know, you make 0:09:42.761 --> 0:09:44.721 such a good point. It kind of is like dating, 0:09:44.761 --> 0:09:46.281 and I've never looked at it like that, but you 0:09:46.281 --> 0:09:48.881 get to know each other and it is a game 0:09:48.921 --> 0:09:50.641 of translation at the end of the day, like Spirit 0:09:50.641 --> 0:09:52.841 will instantly show me symbols or they will say things 0:09:52.921 --> 0:09:55.201 like instantly know what they mean by showing me that. 0:09:55.801 --> 0:10:01.161 And even though every soul journey in the physical world 0:10:01.241 --> 0:10:03.201 is different, like we're all humans and we're all very different, 0:10:03.241 --> 0:10:06.401 once you return to the life or return home, as 0:10:06.441 --> 0:10:09.801 I say, there is that oneness again. So every spirit 0:10:10.521 --> 0:10:13.281 instinctively knows how to react with us because they've done 0:10:13.321 --> 0:10:14.841 it before. If that makes them said that, they might 0:10:14.881 --> 0:10:17.041 not have ever spoken to us directly before. The energy 0:10:17.121 --> 0:10:19.841 of the soul hats so when they're coming forward to 0:10:19.961 --> 0:10:23.561 use us as the mediums, they know what where about. 0:10:23.601 --> 0:10:25.481 They know how we translate things, and they know how 0:10:25.521 --> 0:10:27.641 to utilize that and take advantage of that as well. 0:10:27.681 --> 0:10:28.921 Like I'm sure it's the same for you, but I 0:10:28.921 --> 0:10:32.721 would say spirit uses my brain like a library, not all. 0:10:32.841 --> 0:10:37.481 And I think it's great in that sense because I 0:10:37.601 --> 0:10:39.881 wasn't always a medium, so I have what I call 0:10:39.961 --> 0:10:44.961 the civilian life beforehand. And the more that I'm able 0:10:45.041 --> 0:10:48.521 to be worldly or educate myself on different topics or 0:10:48.561 --> 0:10:51.161 to read about all these different things. Spirit can utilize 0:10:51.161 --> 0:10:54.681 that in their brain in my brain as well to 0:10:54.721 --> 0:10:57.681 be able to relay messages. So I think it's important 0:10:57.721 --> 0:11:00.081 for all spiritual people to also look at the box 0:11:00.161 --> 0:11:02.881 in the human life as well, because I regardless of 0:11:02.881 --> 0:11:06.321 our spiritual understandings, we're still human at the end of 0:11:06.321 --> 0:11:08.201 the day anyway, and we have to enjoy the human 0:11:08.281 --> 0:11:09.961 experience and have to enjoy the human life. 0:11:10.161 --> 0:11:14.401 So oh yes, I mean I always say to everyone, 0:11:14.481 --> 0:11:17.761 like literally, the whole point of us being here is 0:11:17.801 --> 0:11:20.521 to be human and have a human experience, not to 0:11:20.641 --> 0:11:24.241 like escape it or ascend it and be better than it, 0:11:24.641 --> 0:11:26.481 because otherwise, like why be here? 0:11:27.201 --> 0:11:30.041 Exactly right? I mean the spiritual ego that some of 0:11:30.081 --> 0:11:34.241 the some of the people can inverted comments up and 0:11:34.241 --> 0:11:37.121 they're like, oh, I've escaped the matrix and I understand, 0:11:37.201 --> 0:11:39.361 like the FREDA and it's like, shut the fuck up. 0:11:39.481 --> 0:11:42.281 Like it's sort of like it's this spiritual ego that 0:11:42.321 --> 0:11:45.001 I find out so many people have, and you know, 0:11:45.041 --> 0:11:48.041 I'm generalizing, maybe maybe not so many people have it, 0:11:48.121 --> 0:11:52.281 but it's regardless of your understandings. It doesn't make you 0:11:52.361 --> 0:11:55.321 more advanced or switched on than anyone else. Like everyone's 0:11:55.361 --> 0:11:59.241 here for their own journeys. Some people whose life journey 0:11:59.361 --> 0:12:01.121 or their soule journey this time around, maybe they're not 0:12:01.161 --> 0:12:03.121 even meant to have a clue that spirituality they're learning 0:12:03.161 --> 0:12:05.281 that would things like this is the thing. So it's 0:12:05.321 --> 0:12:07.361 just because you've got a spittual understanding. It doesn't make 0:12:07.401 --> 0:12:09.641 you a better human. It doesn't. It definitely does make 0:12:09.641 --> 0:12:11.161 you a better human, but it doesn't make your soul 0:12:11.201 --> 0:12:13.401 ball or advanced either, Like we've got to remember rules 0:12:13.401 --> 0:12:15.841 still human rule, still learning. Just because we may be 0:12:16.121 --> 0:12:18.561 mediums and maybe okay, ninety nine percent of the population 0:12:18.641 --> 0:12:20.921 is doing that day by day, Does it make me 0:12:21.241 --> 0:12:23.721 any better than anyone else? Absolutely not. Does it make 0:12:23.841 --> 0:12:26.681 me understand like differently? Probably, But does it make that 0:12:26.761 --> 0:12:30.121 other people not understand life differently? No, that's the thing. 0:12:30.161 --> 0:12:32.801 It's just it's this really cool thing that I can do. 0:12:34.241 --> 0:12:36.881 But some people can play basketball very well and I 0:12:36.921 --> 0:12:37.441 can't do that. 0:12:37.601 --> 0:12:41.441 So yes, yes, yes, yes, And I also feel like 0:12:41.761 --> 0:12:43.881 because you'll probably you get this probably all the time, 0:12:43.921 --> 0:12:44.681 where people. 0:12:44.521 --> 0:12:47.361 Like you have such a gift, like it's. 0:12:47.241 --> 0:12:49.761 Almost like they look at you like you're like the 0:12:49.921 --> 0:12:53.361 chosen one and like it's like you were bestowed and 0:12:53.441 --> 0:12:56.201 like it is like I guess a gift and an 0:12:56.201 --> 0:12:58.321 ability and everything else, but I guess you're like me. 0:12:58.521 --> 0:13:00.721 We kind of came out of the broom closet later 0:13:00.801 --> 0:13:03.361 in life. It's not like we sort of flew out 0:13:03.401 --> 0:13:06.841 of the womb with like a fucking broom in our hands, 0:13:07.241 --> 0:13:09.721 and you know, we're like crystals upper ass and we 0:13:09.721 --> 0:13:12.881 were like connecting to the fucking whoever. You know, it 0:13:12.961 --> 0:13:15.481 was like just this sort of like real journey and 0:13:15.521 --> 0:13:18.921 this lart thing. And I'm sure it's the same for you, 0:13:19.001 --> 0:13:23.721 Like that very human experience that you had until you 0:13:23.881 --> 0:13:26.641 really sort of realize what. 0:13:26.521 --> 0:13:28.761 It was that you're experiencing. Was that what it was? 0:13:28.801 --> 0:13:28.881 Like? 0:13:28.961 --> 0:13:31.601 Do you once you kind of realized and had that 0:13:31.681 --> 0:13:34.521 moment you kind of looked back on your life and went, oh, 0:13:34.841 --> 0:13:36.121 is that what all of that was? 0:13:37.961 --> 0:13:41.561 Because to be able to look at certain life lessons 0:13:41.561 --> 0:13:44.641 that I've been through or certain experiences, it definitely puts 0:13:44.641 --> 0:13:46.401 it into a new light and a new perspective now 0:13:46.441 --> 0:13:48.801 to sort of not underly understand why things happen the 0:13:48.801 --> 0:13:50.361 way that they did, but also the impact that it's 0:13:50.361 --> 0:13:52.961 had on my soul journey as well. And you know, 0:13:53.001 --> 0:13:54.521 even to touch on the other point that you made, 0:13:54.521 --> 0:13:56.681 everyone's like, oh, You've got such a gift, and then 0:13:56.801 --> 0:13:58.961 sort of like, I absolutely do see it a gift 0:13:59.001 --> 0:14:01.161 because I'm grateful for it and it is something that's 0:14:01.201 --> 0:14:06.241 incredibly special. But I, like you, I'm sure or of 0:14:06.761 --> 0:14:09.521 the deep understanded that every single person can do what 0:14:09.561 --> 0:14:13.201 I do. And I say this constantly, like we're all 0:14:13.281 --> 0:14:15.441 souls having a human experience. We're not humans having a 0:14:15.481 --> 0:14:17.521 spiritual experience by being able to connect with it. So 0:14:18.121 --> 0:14:22.121 even though it's something that is literally otherworldly, I understand 0:14:22.801 --> 0:14:27.121 the specialty and the fascination and the excitement behind it 0:14:27.161 --> 0:14:30.121 because you know, when we are connecting, we are literally 0:14:30.121 --> 0:14:32.521 connecting to other dimensions and other energies that maybe the 0:14:32.561 --> 0:14:35.801 eyes can't see. So there is that sort of uniqueness, 0:14:35.841 --> 0:14:38.121 that specialty to it. But everyone can do it, Like 0:14:38.121 --> 0:14:39.521 that's the thing, and that I can do it as 0:14:39.641 --> 0:14:45.161 this you know, I mean my early twenties is you know, conservative, gay, 0:14:46.761 --> 0:14:48.921 legal working person, Like you know what I mean, If 0:14:48.921 --> 0:14:50.281 I can do it, dis anyone can do it. 0:14:51.281 --> 0:14:53.881 Yes, I love that and I feel like it's such 0:14:53.881 --> 0:14:57.961 an empowering thing, like the concept of it being something 0:14:58.001 --> 0:15:00.681 that we all have access to and we will have 0:15:00.721 --> 0:15:03.681 the ability to do. Is there an experience or like 0:15:03.801 --> 0:15:07.121 a moment that you had and with spirit, whether it 0:15:07.161 --> 0:15:09.601 was like thrill reading, or whether it was someone who 0:15:09.761 --> 0:15:12.521 just paid you know, like a spirit that came to 0:15:12.561 --> 0:15:17.281 you that feels like really significant, or it was very 0:15:17.401 --> 0:15:21.321 just like holy shit, that was life changing, that was huge. 0:15:21.481 --> 0:15:23.801 Yeah. I mean, as corny as it sounds, it's kind 0:15:23.801 --> 0:15:26.401 of like every reason I'm able to do. But especially 0:15:26.681 --> 0:15:30.121 at the start of my journey, when you are able 0:15:30.241 --> 0:15:33.521 to connect in a way and able to pass on 0:15:34.281 --> 0:15:38.241 information or connection or validations to someone and you know 0:15:38.441 --> 0:15:41.801 instantly feel their emotion changed behind it, and you instantly 0:15:41.841 --> 0:15:44.681 see the positive impact that has on their journey. Because 0:15:45.201 --> 0:15:47.721 the biggest thing of all through medium for me is 0:15:47.761 --> 0:15:51.441 a medium, is that every single time I sit down 0:15:51.441 --> 0:15:54.161 with someone, we are dealing with a lot of you know, 0:15:54.241 --> 0:15:57.441 really heavy emotions. There's grief, there's sadness, there's a lot 0:15:57.441 --> 0:15:59.761 of unfortunately guilty that a lot of people have when 0:15:59.761 --> 0:16:04.241 someone crosses over because I think as humans were so 0:16:04.361 --> 0:16:07.601 flawed that we and automatically think of the great times 0:16:07.601 --> 0:16:09.681 and think of all the benefits, and think of all 0:16:09.681 --> 0:16:12.201 the great journeys we had with someone. We instantly go 0:16:12.241 --> 0:16:14.121 into the element of like, oh, fuck, I should have 0:16:14.161 --> 0:16:15.521 done this. I can't believe I did that when I 0:16:15.601 --> 0:16:17.801 was twelve. Like I can't believe I talked I had 0:16:17.841 --> 0:16:19.601 that conversation with my mum when I was twenty. She 0:16:19.641 --> 0:16:21.841 must be so mad. Like we instantly think of all 0:16:21.841 --> 0:16:24.681 these things that we wish that we could change. And 0:16:25.801 --> 0:16:28.841 I think every reading I do has some level of that. 0:16:28.881 --> 0:16:30.881 And when I'm able to sit down with people, and 0:16:31.041 --> 0:16:34.001 especially at the start of my journey, and to be 0:16:34.001 --> 0:16:36.041 able to connect with spirit in that really beautiful way 0:16:36.081 --> 0:16:38.281 and be able to pass on those messages were spirits 0:16:38.281 --> 0:16:40.481 telling them to fucking let it go or don't stress 0:16:40.561 --> 0:16:42.641 or you know, okay, you think this, but I was 0:16:42.681 --> 0:16:44.801 doing this, and then for them to be able to 0:16:44.841 --> 0:16:46.561 look at it from a different perspective and to be 0:16:46.641 --> 0:16:51.201 able to provide as the medium like the middleman, that 0:16:51.401 --> 0:16:54.801 instant sort of peace or that clarification or that closure 0:16:54.881 --> 0:16:58.241 around set and topics and certain emotions and feelings that 0:16:58.281 --> 0:17:01.121 people have. I mean, that's what switched it to me, 0:17:01.161 --> 0:17:03.681 I understood that it wasn't necessarily a party trick that 0:17:03.761 --> 0:17:06.921 I could do with something that had this immense benefit 0:17:06.961 --> 0:17:09.561 to be able to be really healing and helpful for 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.440 other people and again helping me learn along the way 0:17:12.481 --> 0:17:15.240 as well. So the readings at the very start will 0:17:15.281 --> 0:17:17.761 always kind of stick with me, especially in the mentoring classes, 0:17:17.801 --> 0:17:21.721 because it was a very lighthearted, sort of fun learning environment. 0:17:21.721 --> 0:17:23.721 But then you would be able to get these nuggets 0:17:23.721 --> 0:17:26.080 of wisdom and closure that spirit would be able to 0:17:26.120 --> 0:17:28.400 pass on to particular people in the mentoring class, and 0:17:28.441 --> 0:17:33.360 I was like, Okay, this is cool, but it's also 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:34.241 incredibly healing. 0:17:34.921 --> 0:17:35.400 I love that. 0:17:35.481 --> 0:17:38.801 It's like it's not even just the messages that you're relaying, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.321 which is so comforting and so healing to somebody, but 0:17:42.441 --> 0:17:45.001 even just in that experience alone. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.080 You're opening up their entire world. 0:17:47.120 --> 0:17:50.041 You're opening up how they see things, how they view themselves, 0:17:50.120 --> 0:17:51.960 how they view the universe, how. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:56.080 They view just like it. Just it's it's so significant. 0:17:56.360 --> 0:17:59.161 It really is because from a younger age, all of us, 0:17:59.241 --> 0:18:02.561 especially those of us within Western society, like we are 0:18:03.360 --> 0:18:07.240 taught the spirituality is so woo woo and it's so 0:18:07.521 --> 0:18:10.640 supernatural and it's actually really fucking scary because horror movies 0:18:10.681 --> 0:18:13.681 will exploit it, and it's sort of like the only 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.080 exposure that we've had to mediums are usually crazy people 0:18:18.360 --> 0:18:22.160 dressed in velvet looking over a crystal ball. So society 0:18:22.201 --> 0:18:25.640 has shaped it to be something that is really on 0:18:25.681 --> 0:18:30.121 the fringe, or it's really sort of like just scary 0:18:30.201 --> 0:18:32.200 in some ways, or not beneficial in some ways, or 0:18:32.321 --> 0:18:35.321 just not able to use it as a tool to 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.881 actually help us all the volt. And when we then 0:18:39.961 --> 0:18:43.841 have experiences with it directly and we're like, wow, I'm 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:45.961 sitting down with it, just a very normal person who's 0:18:46.001 --> 0:18:48.200 able to actually pass on messages of love and support 0:18:48.201 --> 0:18:52.001 and guidance and clarity in a really comfortable, safe environment 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.440 and helped me heal well. Suddenly it's sort of like, 0:18:54.481 --> 0:18:56.201 why have I've been going to therapy for twelve weeks 0:18:56.201 --> 0:18:59.321 because we just healed everything in twenty minutes with the medium, Like, 0:18:59.521 --> 0:19:02.920 you know, it's a little exposures like that, So it's 0:19:02.961 --> 0:19:07.440 it's its own benefits for every single person on the planet. 0:19:07.441 --> 0:19:10.120 I can definitely appreciate that everyone has a million in 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.440 one views about it. I mean, you know, coming out 0:19:12.481 --> 0:19:14.640 as a gay man, for example, Like people take that 0:19:14.681 --> 0:19:16.441