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Speaker 1: Apoge Production.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.

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Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically

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Speaker 2: in this room, so to just strap in for that.

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Speaker 1: Can't call me crazy, so I said it first.

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Speaker 2: Whoever's try to come through whatever messages need to come through, like,

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Speaker 2: just bring it on, Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Crazy Crazy Crazy The Village Crazy Lay Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Gordeous Legends, and welcome to another episode of the

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Speaker 2: Village Crazy Lady.

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Speaker 3: This week I have.

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Speaker 1: A very special Village Crazy boy.

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Speaker 2: David the Medium or David Stephen two is a very

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Speaker 2: very renowned medium, probably the most renowned medium in all

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Speaker 2: of Australia. He's literally just done the Opera House, Like,

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Speaker 2: what was that, like, the first medium ship show at

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Speaker 2: the Opera House?

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Speaker 1: Is that right, David?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Well first, and thank you for having me on. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It was the first Australian medium to do a theater show.

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Speaker 4: They're in one of the big theaters and the second

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Speaker 4: medium in general since nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 3: That is so cool.

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Speaker 2: Can I actually just ask what it's like to read

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Speaker 2: for a live show, like how do you even prepare

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Speaker 2: for it? And what does it feel like? As a

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Speaker 2: medium standing up there, like reading the energies in the

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Speaker 2: to read for?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's such a fascinating question because even

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Speaker 4: for me, like live chows is something I wanted to

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Speaker 4: do for years and years and years, and I only

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Speaker 4: started properly planning it this year. And when I had

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Speaker 4: my first one in March down here in Melbourne, I

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Speaker 4: didn't know how it was going to go. I've never

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Speaker 4: saw it on you know TV, for example John Edwards

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Speaker 4: in the nineteen nineties, Like we know it can be done.

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Speaker 4: We've seen sort of other mediums do it. But to

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Speaker 4: and I was like, am I going to get hounded

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Speaker 4: of lay the game plan with spirit before I got

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Speaker 4: out there. I was like, Okay, we've got three hundred

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Speaker 4: And I was like, you just need to take it

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Speaker 4: But I mean, you know what it's like as well.

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Speaker 4: Scripts was very respectful. I don't have any of them

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Speaker 4: Like it's kind of like I say, from the very

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Speaker 4: So it's just it's such a great experience and I'm

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Speaker 3: Yes, I love that so much.

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Speaker 2: I always wondered, like, and was it such a thing

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Speaker 4: Basically, I mean that was the thing because because it

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Speaker 2: I feel like so much of our job and what

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Speaker 2: All I can do is just be really open to

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Speaker 4: you're sensing, what you're wanting to stay, the emotions that

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Speaker 4: Like every single time we sit down with clients, I'm

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Speaker 4: still gaining things every single days. And it's not something

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Speaker 4: Fifty is now my plan wasn't sory a tirate forty?

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Speaker 3: Sort of like it's a script that you know, and it's.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing, because I you know, you make

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Speaker 4: and I've never looked at it like that, but you

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Speaker 4: And even though every soul journey in the physical world

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Speaker 4: Because to be able to look at certain life lessons

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love that and I feel like it's such

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Speaker 2: You're opening up how they see things, how they view themselves,

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Speaker 4: It really is because from a younger age, all of us,

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Speaker 4: because we just healed everything in twenty minutes with the medium, Like,

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Speaker 4: I can definitely appreciate that everyone has a million in

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Speaker 4: what their opinion is, but I'm sure it's the same

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Speaker 4: for you exactly. It doesn't change me, but I'm sure

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Speaker 4: it's the same for you as well. Like you tell

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Speaker 4: don't actually have an opinion. They think it's a bit

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Speaker 4: fucking weird. They really think it's cool, Like it's it's

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Speaker 4: everyone's own journey, and it's everyone's own exposure to it.

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Speaker 4: Now admittably, I look at mediumship and spirituality as you know,

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Speaker 4: We can't actually harness the benefits from it. Not only

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Speaker 4: you know, not every single person has to be a meeting,

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Speaker 4: use that to your own benefit. You don't even have

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Speaker 4: like you can actually just gain your own perspectives and

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Speaker 4: And we're not taught that.

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Speaker 2: Damn Amen. Mic Drop would not agree more.

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Speaker 1: I would love.

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Speaker 2: To chat it back, because like we've spoken about medium shit.

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Speaker 2: But then like the psychic side is kind of like

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Speaker 2: what does that look like for you? Because I'm always

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Speaker 2: so intrigued how people receive information, how they see things,

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Speaker 2: see timelines, and because you you see a lot of

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Speaker 2: kind of worldly events and can kind of predict a

434
00:20:48,961 --> 00:20:51,041
Speaker 2: lot and get a lot of information, So how does

435
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,761
Speaker 2: that even look like for you?

436
00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:54,681
Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to describe mine, but I don't actually

437
00:20:54,681 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 4: want you to describe yours, because I think it's going

438
00:20:56,441 --> 00:21:00,801
Speaker 4: to be fascinated is. But yeah, for me, I the

439
00:21:00,801 --> 00:21:02,561
Speaker 4: way that I look at light or you know, our

440
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,441
Speaker 4: soule journey. I don't know I did inverban Commas because

441
00:21:04,441 --> 00:21:06,721
Speaker 4: it's actually so journey. But the way that I look

442
00:21:06,761 --> 00:21:08,881
Speaker 4: at it, it's sort of like there's I say, it's

443
00:21:08,921 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 4: life is a classroom for the soul, because the soul

444
00:21:11,001 --> 00:21:13,721
Speaker 4: comes to this earthly realm and we're born into it,

445
00:21:14,201 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 4: and there's key events, key lessons, key themes that we

446
00:21:17,561 --> 00:21:19,801
Speaker 4: have to go through, and we chose to go through it.

447
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,001
Speaker 4: Some of it's incredibly fucking difficult and traumatic and you know,

448
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 4: all the negative side of things, but our soul chose

449
00:21:25,241 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 4: to go through it because it understood the learning and

450
00:21:27,721 --> 00:21:30,041
Speaker 4: the evolution that it would get from it. So in

451
00:21:30,041 --> 00:21:32,881
Speaker 4: that sense, when we are born as our first day

452
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 4: on earth, the events for our life up until the

453
00:21:36,201 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 4: moment that we have crossed over are essentially already destined.

454
00:21:40,801 --> 00:21:43,241
Speaker 4: What we do have free will over is the path

455
00:21:43,321 --> 00:21:45,481
Speaker 4: and the choices that we take to it that inevitably

456
00:21:45,521 --> 00:21:47,801
Speaker 4: we're going to end up there anyway. So then there's

457
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,201
Speaker 4: a psychic. It's all energy and it's all frequency because

458
00:21:51,241 --> 00:21:54,721
Speaker 4: this is all pre planned essentially and it's already out there.

459
00:21:54,761 --> 00:21:59,201
Speaker 4: So then there's a psyche. I'm able to tune into

460
00:21:59,201 --> 00:22:04,041
Speaker 4: that frequency to get visions per se, but also guidance

461
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,961
Speaker 4: on it, so essentially be able to foresee and predict

462
00:22:08,041 --> 00:22:12,121
Speaker 4: future timelines. So for me as a psychic, especially when

463
00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: I'm tuning into world events. You know, those huge world

464
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 4: events have a massive impact on millions slash billions of people,

465
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 4: So they're very clear and the energy of it is

466
00:22:23,201 --> 00:22:26,041
Speaker 4: very strong. So when I actually get it, though, it's

467
00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 4: usually in dreams like I used to go through the

468
00:22:28,561 --> 00:22:33,161
Speaker 4: craziest dreams and also deep meditations, but also silly things.

469
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 4: When I'm driving, I'll get downloads because I think the

470
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,441
Speaker 4: brain is so on autopilot. When I'm in the shower again,

471
00:22:38,441 --> 00:22:41,321
Speaker 4: I'm on autopilot. And it's those moments when we're to

472
00:22:41,321 --> 00:22:43,761
Speaker 4: ourselves and we're kind of thinking but on autopilot at

473
00:22:43,801 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 4: the same time. It just allows the brain part of

474
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,561
Speaker 4: me to float into it. What I have noticed though,

475
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:56,521
Speaker 4: is especially since twenty twenty and especially the last really

476
00:22:56,561 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 4: sort of six to twelve months, the timelines are a

477
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:05,041
Speaker 4: complete washing machine. Yes, like I can't like I can predict. Yeah,

478
00:23:05,441 --> 00:23:08,921
Speaker 4: it's sort of like how many things that will happen.

479
00:23:09,001 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 4: Like I was like, oh, I don't think Trump's going

480
00:23:10,281 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 4: to win. Then he had the ass and I'm like,

481
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 4: He's definitely going to win, and then the week later

482
00:23:13,961 --> 00:23:16,561
Speaker 4: the energy switching in. I'm like, that's just one example

483
00:23:16,681 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 4: of a big world event that personal timelines aren't as nuts,

484
00:23:20,801 --> 00:23:25,521
Speaker 4: but they're so fluid, and it's just it's fascinating to see.

485
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Speaker 2: I relate like everything that you said. I don't know

486
00:23:28,801 --> 00:23:31,361
Speaker 2: if you saw my facial expressions the whole time, everything

487
00:23:31,441 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: from like spirit you know, you're getting downloads in the

488
00:23:34,241 --> 00:23:35,441
Speaker 2: shower and in the car.

489
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Speaker 3: They're my top two as well, like always happen.

490
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Speaker 2: But what you were saying about the timelines being an

491
00:23:41,961 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 2: absolute fucking washing machine over the last what do you

492
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Speaker 2: say about six to twelve months, especially.

493
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Speaker 4: The last six or twelve months.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm wondering, do you think it's because people

495
00:23:53,281 --> 00:23:56,161
Speaker 2: are starting to recognize their free will a little bit more?

496
00:23:56,801 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 4: Well? I think yes, First and foremost, I think people

497
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,041
Speaker 4: are starting to realize that there's a lot more sort

498
00:24:03,041 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 4: of pathways to their choices. But inevitably it won't change

499
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: the outcome anyway. That's the thing. It's just something that's

500
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,761
Speaker 4: so fascinating. I mean to get it, you know, really

501
00:24:12,761 --> 00:24:14,521
Speaker 4: deep into it and very woo woo. I believe it

502
00:24:14,561 --> 00:24:17,561
Speaker 4: that multiple sort of timeline's happening all at once, so

503
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,801
Speaker 4: it's sort of like we're living in arguments. I believe

504
00:24:20,801 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 4: probably seven different parallel universes all at once. There's different

505
00:24:23,481 --> 00:24:26,201
Speaker 4: versions of you and me living different lives out there

506
00:24:26,521 --> 00:24:29,161
Speaker 4: now that these mold together, not necessarily, but I think

507
00:24:29,201 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 4: in some ways the energy of them can impact on

508
00:24:31,201 --> 00:24:33,801
Speaker 4: each other. To look, at the start of the year,

509
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,561
Speaker 4: everything the washing machine seemed to go into a slower cycle,

510
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 4: so it was a bit more easier to predict what

511
00:24:40,761 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 4: was happening for me. And I've been interested in your

512
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,561
Speaker 4: opinion on this as well. But the United States has

513
00:24:45,561 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 4: always been the spiritual ground zero, So anything that happened

514
00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 4: in the United States reverberates to run the world energetically anyway.

515
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,521
Speaker 4: Now we see that in day to day life with

516
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,921
Speaker 4: pop culture, politics, economics, and all those kinds of things

517
00:24:54,921 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 4: that affect us, but from a spiritual perspective, anything that

518
00:24:57,961 --> 00:25:00,561
Speaker 4: happens there inevitably goes around the world as well. So

519
00:25:00,921 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 4: when we had the Trump assassination at ten, it was

520
00:25:04,321 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 4: like the whole timeline that went back, and it was

521
00:25:07,201 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 4: kind of like everything instantly switched. And because Trump is

522
00:25:10,521 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 4: such a change character and probably a time traveler as well,

523
00:25:15,921 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 4: it wouldn't surprise me. But the energy around him is

524
00:25:18,281 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 4: so unique compared to anyone else there. So when that happened.

525
00:25:21,681 --> 00:25:24,441
Speaker 4: It sent everything into a new timeline again. And I mean,

526
00:25:24,521 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 4: for example, I predicted I mean, there's a video that

527
00:25:27,481 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 4: I did in May last year staying that Joe Biden

528
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,521
Speaker 4: wouldn't be the candidate, and the reasons that I outlined

529
00:25:34,201 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 4: outlined in that were the reasons why he's not there anymore.

530
00:25:36,761 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 4: But I never saw Kamla Harris being there. And even now,

531
00:25:40,961 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 4: and this is the funny thing, even though she is

532
00:25:42,681 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: there now, I don't feel her there. It's sort of

533
00:25:46,721 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: like it's like, what's happening here? So it's fascinating. I mean,

534
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,321
Speaker 4: I've definitely made my predictions and I've definitely got my

535
00:25:54,321 --> 00:25:56,801
Speaker 4: my sort of downloads and ideas about what I think

536
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 4: will happen that again, like I mean, who knows what's

537
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:01,001
Speaker 4: gonna happen tomorrow?

538
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:02,921
Speaker 1: And it does.

539
00:26:02,961 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: It happened. It changes so quickly. It's so interesting. Like

540
00:26:05,801 --> 00:26:08,761
Speaker 2: the Kamala of it, I always and I still I

541
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,281
Speaker 2: understand what you mean, like about it's like she's there,

542
00:26:11,281 --> 00:26:14,281
Speaker 2: but she's not there, because how I was always shown it.

543
00:26:14,321 --> 00:26:16,481
Speaker 2: There was like this energy of there was like this

544
00:26:17,321 --> 00:26:20,241
Speaker 2: feminine figure, and I just kind of kept seeing Kamala.

545
00:26:20,281 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it wasn't It's like she

546
00:26:22,961 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: was there, but she wasn't there, and there was this

547
00:26:24,721 --> 00:26:25,881
Speaker 2: like it was.

548
00:26:25,921 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: A masculine figure of Behart.

549
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,321
Speaker 2: There was like a male that was really I don't

550
00:26:30,321 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: even know, you know how You're like, I know what

551
00:26:32,481 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: I see, trying to sort of like convey that because

552
00:26:37,561 --> 00:26:41,001
Speaker 2: it's like it's yeah, translate it can be really difficult,

553
00:26:41,041 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I see exactly the same thing. I

554
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: almost feel like last minute, it'll be like she'll be

555
00:26:46,241 --> 00:26:47,961
Speaker 2: gone by and this guy will come through.

556
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,321
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I I think you can also go the

557
00:26:52,321 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 4: other way. It wouldn't surprise me that actually made her

558
00:26:54,321 --> 00:26:56,801
Speaker 4: president before the election. Like its just the whole thing

559
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,281
Speaker 4: doesn't make sense. But it goes into the energetic power

560
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,481
Speaker 4: players as well. So even though she may be the figure,

561
00:27:01,521 --> 00:27:04,041
Speaker 4: she's not in control. That's the thing. So there's the

562
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 4: men behind her will be in control. So that's how

563
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 4: I would probably translate what you're maybe even being shown.

564
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about what do you see then like

565
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,441
Speaker 2: over the next up until like the end of the year,

566
00:27:17,561 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: and then we can move into next year. But I

567
00:27:19,281 --> 00:27:21,201
Speaker 2: feel like between now and the end of the year,

568
00:27:21,681 --> 00:27:24,201
Speaker 2: shit is going to be wild.

569
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 4: It was always for me because I talked about this

570
00:27:27,481 --> 00:27:29,401
Speaker 4: at the end of twenty twenty three. I did say

571
00:27:29,441 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 4: that the world in general is a bit crazy, but

572
00:27:32,321 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 4: especially a merit that would probably go through the hardest

573
00:27:34,481 --> 00:27:38,641
Speaker 4: year of its modern existence as a country. Yeah, and

574
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 4: I think, I mean, what is the election. It's about

575
00:27:40,681 --> 00:27:44,201
Speaker 4: seventy ish days away, Like I mean, what we now

576
00:27:44,201 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 4: so where you know, the end of August at the

577
00:27:45,681 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: moment as we're recording this, there is just going to

578
00:27:47,961 --> 00:27:50,241
Speaker 4: be so much that pops up. I always predicted that

579
00:27:50,281 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 4: there would sort of be two assassination attempts on Donald Trump.

580
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,321
Speaker 4: We've obviously had one. The second I can't imagine will

581
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 4: be a shooting. Not to say that it won't be,

582
00:27:59,281 --> 00:28:00,681
Speaker 4: but I think that there will be sort of other

583
00:28:00,721 --> 00:28:04,521
Speaker 4: elements that play there behind the scenes. Would that be successful,

584
00:28:04,521 --> 00:28:07,841
Speaker 4: I mean, imagine the chaos that that will. So if

585
00:28:07,961 --> 00:28:12,561
Speaker 4: Donald Trump is assassinated, there's something still going on with

586
00:28:12,681 --> 00:28:15,281
Speaker 4: Joe Biden. I mean, I don't think his time on

587
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:21,441
Speaker 4: Earth is that long. Be very fair, you know, I mean,

588
00:28:21,921 --> 00:28:24,321
Speaker 4: the power dynamics of that would happen if he actually

589
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 4: did crossover before the election. I mean it's unlikely, but

590
00:28:27,201 --> 00:28:31,041
Speaker 4: it's definitely possible then Kamala would be ascended as president

591
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 4: right before the election. I mean, there's depending on how

592
00:28:35,761 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 4: they want to get into it. There's a lot of

593
00:28:37,201 --> 00:28:39,881
Speaker 4: power plays behind the scenes in America that are reverberating

594
00:28:39,881 --> 00:28:41,881
Speaker 4: around the world. Already we see a tax on free

595
00:28:41,921 --> 00:28:45,241
Speaker 4: speech all over Europe. I mean, there's issues in Australia

596
00:28:45,281 --> 00:28:47,561
Speaker 4: with it again because it's a reverberation from everything that's

597
00:28:47,601 --> 00:28:53,001
Speaker 4: gone on in the United States. I think Donald Trump

598
00:28:53,401 --> 00:28:57,441
Speaker 4: is to be successful. I think either way, America will

599
00:28:57,481 --> 00:28:59,641
Speaker 4: end up in the civil War energy for twenty twenty

600
00:28:59,641 --> 00:29:05,601
Speaker 4: five onwards because it's just such a polarized country at

601
00:29:05,601 --> 00:29:11,041
Speaker 4: the moment. So I think the next few months in

602
00:29:11,121 --> 00:29:15,761
Speaker 4: general just the shit show. So imagine with America, like

603
00:29:15,801 --> 00:29:17,201
Speaker 4: it's not even with everything else going on.

604
00:29:17,881 --> 00:29:20,241
Speaker 2: Well, I've always it's so interesting because I've always said

605
00:29:20,241 --> 00:29:22,561
Speaker 2: this like the same thing about America, Like I just

606
00:29:22,921 --> 00:29:25,641
Speaker 2: America was just the thing that just kept coming up

607
00:29:25,641 --> 00:29:28,841
Speaker 2: this year, and it felt like from a very energetic perspective,

608
00:29:28,881 --> 00:29:31,921
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a very growth time for America,

609
00:29:32,001 --> 00:29:35,161
Speaker 2: Like really significant change is going to happen. And what

610
00:29:35,321 --> 00:29:38,041
Speaker 2: happened this election, as you said, will kind of create

611
00:29:38,081 --> 00:29:42,161
Speaker 2: this sort of civil war energy essentially, and like America's

612
00:29:42,281 --> 00:29:43,041
Speaker 2: just going to be.

613
00:29:44,401 --> 00:29:46,521
Speaker 1: Oh, it just feels very just like.

614
00:29:46,521 --> 00:29:48,841
Speaker 2: A lot of big things, a lot of like I

615
00:29:48,881 --> 00:29:51,401
Speaker 2: see a lot of uproar. It almost has this like

616
00:29:51,521 --> 00:29:55,401
Speaker 2: revolution kind of like energy, but like the revolution sort

617
00:29:55,401 --> 00:29:57,481
Speaker 2: of energy is more towards like.

618
00:29:57,441 --> 00:30:03,201
Speaker 3: The next election cycle, Like it's going to be really.

619
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Speaker 2: Interesting and it has like a young energy coming into it.

620
00:30:06,361 --> 00:30:08,081
Speaker 2: And I guess like we are at a stage now

621
00:30:08,121 --> 00:30:10,521
Speaker 2: where like that next generation is starting to come up,

622
00:30:10,561 --> 00:30:13,481
Speaker 2: and you know, so like things are going to change.

623
00:30:13,921 --> 00:30:18,361
Speaker 4: No, absolutely, I think the election, if it does happen

624
00:30:18,441 --> 00:30:21,521
Speaker 4: in November, I think will be probably the pinnacle of

625
00:30:21,601 --> 00:30:26,401
Speaker 4: polarization in America because it's what we've noticed with America,

626
00:30:26,521 --> 00:30:29,721
Speaker 4: especially for our lives. I mean, every election has always

627
00:30:29,801 --> 00:30:31,681
Speaker 4: kind of had the same results country wise, like the

628
00:30:31,681 --> 00:30:34,401
Speaker 4: country's still gone into similar directions. I mean Barack Obama

629
00:30:34,521 --> 00:30:38,281
Speaker 4: was probably the biggest change to that for decades. And

630
00:30:38,361 --> 00:30:43,321
Speaker 4: then the viewpoints and the ideology and the energy and

631
00:30:43,361 --> 00:30:49,001
Speaker 4: the spiritual energy behind both candidates now will send America

632
00:30:49,081 --> 00:30:54,561
Speaker 4: in polar opposite direction. And the country is already divided.

633
00:30:54,601 --> 00:30:56,441
Speaker 4: I mean I've spent a lot of time in America

634
00:30:56,641 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: myself over the years. You know, I was even there

635
00:30:58,561 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 4: this year, and you know, spend time a lot there

636
00:31:00,241 --> 00:31:03,081
Speaker 4: last year. America is split into it really has and

637
00:31:04,641 --> 00:31:08,721
Speaker 4: it both candidates represent such polar opposite viewpoints and it's

638
00:31:08,961 --> 00:31:11,681
Speaker 4: an energy thing. I mean, Kamala Harris is more of

639
00:31:11,681 --> 00:31:15,161
Speaker 4: a puppet and Donald Trump is definitely I mean, no

640
00:31:15,201 --> 00:31:17,881
Speaker 4: one can control him. I mean again, the candidates themselves

641
00:31:17,881 --> 00:31:20,761
Speaker 4: are polar opposite, so it would just be fascinating. I

642
00:31:20,801 --> 00:31:24,481
Speaker 4: think either way twenty twenty five for America will there'll

643
00:31:24,481 --> 00:31:28,041
Speaker 4: be conflict either way. So it's sort of like, you know,

644
00:31:28,601 --> 00:31:32,001
Speaker 4: it's a pressure. Everything's been shook and we've dropped mentos

645
00:31:32,041 --> 00:31:34,321
Speaker 4: in the pepsi and we've closed delivered, shook it up

646
00:31:34,321 --> 00:31:35,641
Speaker 4: and eventually it's going to explode.

647
00:31:36,081 --> 00:31:38,961
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, How about Australia.

648
00:31:39,521 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Australia is it goes down the same line as

649
00:31:42,241 --> 00:31:44,041
Speaker 4: the United States in a lot of ways. Well, but

650
00:31:44,441 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: we're a lot more sort of submissive to sort of

651
00:31:47,241 --> 00:31:50,241
Speaker 4: controlling factors here as well. So if there's a tax

652
00:31:50,321 --> 00:31:53,601
Speaker 4: on freedom of speech, if there's a tax on you know,

653
00:31:53,761 --> 00:31:57,641
Speaker 4: elements of censorship, Australians don't really seem to care, whereas

654
00:31:57,841 --> 00:31:59,841
Speaker 4: the rest of the world of Europe and America especially

655
00:32:00,081 --> 00:32:02,761
Speaker 4: kind of get really really you know, they rise up

656
00:32:02,761 --> 00:32:04,681
Speaker 4: against it. So Australia's more of a laid that kind

657
00:32:04,681 --> 00:32:08,281
Speaker 4: of country. I mean, I mean, I'm from Victoria, for example,

658
00:32:08,321 --> 00:32:10,681
Speaker 4: and you know, we definitely notice a lot of things

659
00:32:10,841 --> 00:32:13,361
Speaker 4: that happened here during COVID, but they are also the

660
00:32:13,361 --> 00:32:16,561
Speaker 4: aftermath of COVID, and the general population of Melbourne just

661
00:32:16,561 --> 00:32:18,921
Speaker 4: doesn't seem to give a ship that the country and

662
00:32:18,961 --> 00:32:21,041
Speaker 4: the state especially has gone down the train in a

663
00:32:21,041 --> 00:32:24,361
Speaker 4: lot of ways. There's there's this classic sort of Australian

664
00:32:24,441 --> 00:32:28,121
Speaker 4: energy of she'll be right. You know, I imagine you and

665
00:32:28,201 --> 00:32:31,281
Speaker 4: I likely around the same age. I mean, Australia that

666
00:32:31,321 --> 00:32:33,881
Speaker 4: we grew up in was very different to the Australia

667
00:32:33,921 --> 00:32:35,961
Speaker 4: now in the sense that we had this she'll be

668
00:32:36,081 --> 00:32:38,841
Speaker 4: right attitude. No one got offended, No, everyone just kind

669
00:32:38,841 --> 00:32:41,161
Speaker 4: of carried on, and you know that presented its own

670
00:32:41,281 --> 00:32:44,321
Speaker 4: problems in some ways absolutely, But now even Australia as

671
00:32:44,321 --> 00:32:47,121
Speaker 4: a country has completely swung the other direction where everyone's

672
00:32:47,121 --> 00:32:49,001
Speaker 4: offended by everything and everyone's going to do this, and

673
00:32:49,041 --> 00:32:51,721
Speaker 4: everything's a drama and we're so polarized and if someone

674
00:32:51,721 --> 00:32:53,841
Speaker 4: else has a different opinion, where we must attack them

675
00:32:53,921 --> 00:32:57,241
Speaker 4: like it's it's it's it's again the reverberation of energy

676
00:32:57,281 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 4: that's coming out of the spiritual empire. So so to

677
00:33:00,281 --> 00:33:02,201
Speaker 4: see what happens in Australia in the next twelve months,

678
00:33:02,241 --> 00:33:04,361
Speaker 4: I mean, there's the continuation of everything we've seen at

679
00:33:04,361 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 4: the moment. Issues. I don't predict that labor from a

680
00:33:08,721 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 4: political perspective, I don't think Anthony Needs will win the

681
00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: next election. No, I agree, So I'll call that now

682
00:33:14,041 --> 00:33:15,841
Speaker 4: because everyone seems, well, I'm glad that you agree, because

683
00:33:15,841 --> 00:33:19,641
Speaker 4: everyone else like, oh no way, but like yeah, just

684
00:33:19,921 --> 00:33:23,041
Speaker 4: I mean there's that, but the good thing, I mean,

685
00:33:23,081 --> 00:33:25,041
Speaker 4: it's good and bad, but it is a good thing.

686
00:33:25,041 --> 00:33:27,801
Speaker 4: At the same time, I think to some degree, a

687
00:33:27,801 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: lot of Australian says disconnect from the bullshit. So it's

688
00:33:31,241 --> 00:33:34,001
Speaker 4: like they don't necessarily have a strong political opinion. For

689
00:33:34,001 --> 00:33:36,441
Speaker 4: the most part, Australians just want to be left alone.

690
00:33:36,641 --> 00:33:41,121
Speaker 4: But in a world that's been created energetically from the

691
00:33:41,121 --> 00:33:43,361
Speaker 4: spiritual perspective, it is about control. It is about the

692
00:33:43,361 --> 00:33:46,081
Speaker 4: authority and energy that has come forward since twenty twenty

693
00:33:46,121 --> 00:33:50,281
Speaker 4: one that doesn't necessarily gull with the classical Australian viewpoints,

694
00:33:50,281 --> 00:33:53,041
Speaker 4: so there's elements of conflict that can arise with that

695
00:33:53,161 --> 00:33:56,561
Speaker 4: as well. So economic situation in Australia is going to

696
00:33:56,561 --> 00:33:59,081
Speaker 4: continue to be quite for the leadership in this country

697
00:33:59,161 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 4: doesn't really exist the social division. It's still probably the

698
00:34:03,481 --> 00:34:05,881
Speaker 4: best place on the planet's to be living. But it's

699
00:34:05,881 --> 00:34:07,921
Speaker 4: not necessarily the easiest place on the planet, but it's

700
00:34:07,921 --> 00:34:09,561
Speaker 4: still probably the best right now anyway.

701
00:34:10,521 --> 00:34:12,001
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's so true.

702
00:34:12,201 --> 00:34:16,241
Speaker 2: The the feeling of like being left alone. I often

703
00:34:16,641 --> 00:34:17,241
Speaker 2: I feel like.

704
00:34:17,521 --> 00:34:20,481
Speaker 1: Because Australia, I guess we're so privileged. It's such a

705
00:34:20,481 --> 00:34:21,481
Speaker 1: privileged country.

706
00:34:21,961 --> 00:34:24,761
Speaker 2: I often't feel like that's almost such an element of

707
00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:28,201
Speaker 2: it because it really there's so many people that politics

708
00:34:28,321 --> 00:34:31,601
Speaker 2: doesn't actually affect that much, Like whether or not doesn't

709
00:34:31,641 --> 00:34:34,521
Speaker 2: matter who's in power. And this is something that I've

710
00:34:34,521 --> 00:34:38,761
Speaker 2: even had to really kind of like pull apart within myself,

711
00:34:38,801 --> 00:34:41,601
Speaker 2: I guess, like my own privilege, right, Like I'm a

712
00:34:41,641 --> 00:34:45,121
Speaker 2: white Australian, come from you know, middle class, like you know,

713
00:34:45,921 --> 00:34:48,161
Speaker 2: I've really like not had to deal with that much

714
00:34:48,321 --> 00:34:52,561
Speaker 2: in regards to that. But one thing I guess I've

715
00:34:52,601 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: really realized is.

716
00:34:54,441 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: That like.

717
00:34:56,521 --> 00:35:00,841
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter who wins or what happens politically, it doesn't

718
00:35:00,881 --> 00:35:04,081
Speaker 2: really affect my life that much. But that doesn't mean

719
00:35:04,081 --> 00:35:06,481
Speaker 2: that it doesn't affect other people's lives. And it's the

720
00:35:06,521 --> 00:35:10,001
Speaker 2: people who aren't as privileged as me who really does affect.

721
00:35:10,121 --> 00:35:13,001
Speaker 2: And that was such an eye opener for me because

722
00:35:13,041 --> 00:35:15,721
Speaker 2: I was, I guess, like I even doing the work

723
00:35:15,761 --> 00:35:18,041
Speaker 2: that we do and like working with so many people

724
00:35:18,121 --> 00:35:21,801
Speaker 2: and seeing like the collective energy and I don't know,

725
00:35:21,961 --> 00:35:23,961
Speaker 2: like you just kind of see a lot more and

726
00:35:24,001 --> 00:35:26,801
Speaker 2: you understand a lot more and so and I mean,

727
00:35:26,841 --> 00:35:28,921
Speaker 2: I'm an Aquarius as well, so I just have this

728
00:35:29,081 --> 00:35:33,201
Speaker 2: like this beating need inside of me to like just

729
00:35:33,441 --> 00:35:37,841
Speaker 2: save humanity and help everybody.

730
00:35:38,281 --> 00:35:41,441
Speaker 1: But it just kind of like made me realize how

731
00:35:41,601 --> 00:35:42,161
Speaker 1: just because it.

732
00:35:42,081 --> 00:35:46,961
Speaker 2: Doesn't affect me doesn't mean I shouldn't really start to

733
00:35:47,001 --> 00:35:50,401
Speaker 2: get involved and take it seriously for others. And also

734
00:35:50,521 --> 00:35:54,201
Speaker 2: the other thing being able to see what we can

735
00:35:54,321 --> 00:35:57,961
Speaker 2: has really showed me is that things are a long game.

736
00:35:58,841 --> 00:36:02,721
Speaker 2: And I think because people often are just seeing everything

737
00:36:02,921 --> 00:36:07,041
Speaker 2: as a very much like they're wanting the results right now,

738
00:36:07,321 --> 00:36:11,121
Speaker 2: even as far as an election is concerned, or you know,

739
00:36:11,201 --> 00:36:13,721
Speaker 2: like you just have to pick the better of the

740
00:36:13,761 --> 00:36:15,801
Speaker 2: two wrongs, So you just need to do whatever is

741
00:36:15,841 --> 00:36:17,881
Speaker 2: going to work right now. But they're not seeing like

742
00:36:18,681 --> 00:36:21,241
Speaker 2: change that you make right now might not affect you

743
00:36:21,361 --> 00:36:25,121
Speaker 2: right now, but it could affect like your children's children.

744
00:36:25,841 --> 00:36:28,601
Speaker 2: And I think like, yeah, that's been such a I guess,

745
00:36:28,601 --> 00:36:30,961
Speaker 2: like being able to see things in such a such

746
00:36:30,961 --> 00:36:33,481
Speaker 2: a bigger way, been able to see timelines and collective

747
00:36:33,521 --> 00:36:36,641
Speaker 2: timelines and stuff like that. I'm like, oh, Okay, what

748
00:36:36,721 --> 00:36:39,601
Speaker 2: I'm doing right now might not actually have any effect

749
00:36:39,641 --> 00:36:41,801
Speaker 2: on me, but it put on my great grandchildren.

750
00:36:42,161 --> 00:36:46,121
Speaker 4: No, absolutely, I think it's it's a really interesting point

751
00:36:46,161 --> 00:36:48,561
Speaker 4: to make for everyone to really pay attention to the

752
00:36:49,041 --> 00:36:51,761
Speaker 4: to the occurrences that are occurring now and the impact

753
00:36:51,761 --> 00:36:55,041
Speaker 4: that that will have on our children and our children's

754
00:36:55,081 --> 00:36:57,601
Speaker 4: children and our children children, because because we are to

755
00:36:57,641 --> 00:36:59,721
Speaker 4: polarize energy at the moment that everything is up to

756
00:36:59,801 --> 00:37:02,121
Speaker 4: washing machine and it's coming out a lot of different ways.

757
00:37:02,161 --> 00:37:04,081
Speaker 4: So it's very mindful to be paying attention to that.

758
00:37:05,121 --> 00:37:09,961
Speaker 2: Yes, have you ever had any experience with galactics?

759
00:37:10,441 --> 00:37:15,201
Speaker 4: Oh? I, well, my best friend who I would love

760
00:37:15,241 --> 00:37:17,761
Speaker 4: you to talk to, actually, Molly Jane. Yes, you know

761
00:37:17,801 --> 00:37:18,481
Speaker 4: Molly Jane.

762
00:37:18,681 --> 00:37:19,481
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need her on.

763
00:37:20,561 --> 00:37:23,801
Speaker 4: I would love to have and hear a conversation between

764
00:37:23,841 --> 00:37:27,121
Speaker 4: you and her. So she does collect connect part of

765
00:37:27,161 --> 00:37:29,041
Speaker 4: me with the Galactic Federation, and she does a lot

766
00:37:29,041 --> 00:37:32,161
Speaker 4: of work with otherworldly beans and aliens and things like

767
00:37:32,201 --> 00:37:34,681
Speaker 4: that as well. Personally, I've seen them, but I haven't

768
00:37:34,721 --> 00:37:38,601
Speaker 4: actually had a chit chat with them. You have to,

769
00:37:39,721 --> 00:37:41,881
Speaker 4: I know, Well, I'm waiting. I'm fucking waiting.

770
00:37:41,921 --> 00:37:44,841
Speaker 1: I talked to me the fact.

771
00:37:46,041 --> 00:37:47,921
Speaker 4: Take me up there, take me to your spaceship.

772
00:37:48,001 --> 00:37:53,121
Speaker 2: Honestly, literally, Oh it's so cool, Like that was probably.

773
00:37:52,721 --> 00:37:53,401
Speaker 4: The most yours.

774
00:37:53,761 --> 00:37:54,361
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

775
00:37:54,401 --> 00:37:55,961
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like people who have listened to the

776
00:37:55,961 --> 00:37:58,201
Speaker 2: podcast have heard me talk about it before. But I

777
00:37:58,801 --> 00:38:01,761
Speaker 2: speak mostly to the Palladians and like have a very

778
00:38:03,001 --> 00:38:08,881
Speaker 2: close relationship with them three, especially one mostly And yeah,

779
00:38:08,881 --> 00:38:10,721
Speaker 2: the way that they communicate, in the way that they

780
00:38:10,721 --> 00:38:15,001
Speaker 2: bring through messages are very relevant to the evolution of humanity.

781
00:38:15,401 --> 00:38:17,601
Speaker 2: They're like, not there just to hear about your problems

782
00:38:17,681 --> 00:38:19,401
Speaker 2: or like help you with something that's going in your

783
00:38:19,481 --> 00:38:22,161
Speaker 2: day to day life. They're like, this is what humanity

784
00:38:22,241 --> 00:38:23,841
Speaker 2: needs to know. This is what you have to do

785
00:38:23,921 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: to help evolve this is like and you know, going

786
00:38:26,041 --> 00:38:28,841
Speaker 2: up to the space ship and like talking to the

787
00:38:30,521 --> 00:38:35,281
Speaker 2: Galactic Federation. My son as well goes He's like, oh, mummy,

788
00:38:35,321 --> 00:38:37,001
Speaker 2: we both went up to the ship last night.

789
00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:40,041
Speaker 4: I love hearing that, Like.

790
00:38:41,521 --> 00:38:44,601
Speaker 2: So cool, and you'll love this. He actually calls it

791
00:38:45,041 --> 00:38:47,921
Speaker 2: they take my real body out. He calls his soul,

792
00:38:48,001 --> 00:38:48,841
Speaker 2: his real body.

793
00:38:49,961 --> 00:38:51,081
Speaker 4: How old is your son now?

794
00:38:51,681 --> 00:38:53,201
Speaker 1: He is five?

795
00:38:53,881 --> 00:38:56,201
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's not human yet. So children up until

796
00:38:56,281 --> 00:38:59,401
Speaker 4: five six seven, they're just they're not human like they

797
00:39:00,121 --> 00:39:03,161
Speaker 4: they don't have social conditioning. They're completely open to energy,

798
00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 4: see in feeling and obviously connections. So it's fascinating. Kids

799
00:39:07,441 --> 00:39:09,001
Speaker 4: are the real spiritual leaders of the planet.

800
00:39:09,601 --> 00:39:12,161
Speaker 2: I could not agree more. Have you done do you do? Like,

801
00:39:12,241 --> 00:39:14,481
Speaker 2: have you ever done a reading for a child?

802
00:39:15,481 --> 00:39:18,441
Speaker 4: No? Not that young. The youngest I've done would probably

803
00:39:18,441 --> 00:39:21,841
Speaker 4: be like early teens. Yeah, I kind of want them

804
00:39:21,881 --> 00:39:23,841
Speaker 4: to read me instead. I mean, they're going to be

805
00:39:23,841 --> 00:39:25,801
Speaker 4: picking up more than I could. Yeah, one hundred percent.

806
00:39:25,841 --> 00:39:29,281
Speaker 4: I mean, and this is why again, women are so special,

807
00:39:29,361 --> 00:39:33,441
Speaker 4: because like your wounds are portals to another dimension, Like

808
00:39:33,441 --> 00:39:37,721
Speaker 4: you're bringing these souls into this world and the higher

809
00:39:37,761 --> 00:39:40,561
Speaker 4: powers that couldn't handle men with that choice. You know

810
00:39:40,721 --> 00:39:42,881
Speaker 4: that they think men had to give birth, the world's

811
00:39:42,881 --> 00:39:45,081
Speaker 4: population would probably be about ten thousand people. We don't

812
00:39:45,081 --> 00:39:47,601
Speaker 4: want to go through the pain, you know what I mean. So, yeah,

813
00:39:47,641 --> 00:39:50,281
Speaker 4: women and other worldly and then they great this portal

814
00:39:50,361 --> 00:39:53,401
Speaker 4: to bring these souls from other dimensions into this planet.

815
00:39:53,441 --> 00:39:56,921
Speaker 4: And those souls aren't human until they're like seven anyway,

816
00:39:56,921 --> 00:39:59,521
Speaker 4: because in the meantime they're just like floating around, being

817
00:39:59,601 --> 00:40:03,121
Speaker 4: so absorbing of everything. It's just it's spectacular.

818
00:40:03,841 --> 00:40:04,761
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.

819
00:40:04,801 --> 00:40:06,721
Speaker 2: Well, so that's how it feels like as a mom,

820
00:40:06,841 --> 00:40:09,081
Speaker 2: Like that's what I really realized with my kids and

821
00:40:09,201 --> 00:40:13,601
Speaker 2: what really that's when my connection to spirit just really

822
00:40:13,641 --> 00:40:16,761
Speaker 2: went next level. And I think that that often happened

823
00:40:16,841 --> 00:40:19,281
Speaker 2: because like it's almost like you really open up that

824
00:40:19,361 --> 00:40:22,481
Speaker 2: portal when you're pregnant and you're like, there's no way

825
00:40:22,521 --> 00:40:25,801
Speaker 2: that there's not something else, and like people are connecting

826
00:40:25,801 --> 00:40:28,761
Speaker 2: to their to their baby and their spirit babies, and

827
00:40:29,521 --> 00:40:32,121
Speaker 2: like just that empowerment and that connection.

828
00:40:31,881 --> 00:40:33,561
Speaker 1: Is so special.

829
00:40:34,081 --> 00:40:36,681
Speaker 2: I feel like I have to talk about something because

830
00:40:37,961 --> 00:40:40,841
Speaker 2: I don't know if you literally even remember this, but

831
00:40:41,081 --> 00:40:43,521
Speaker 2: years and years and years ago, before i'd come out

832
00:40:43,521 --> 00:40:46,201
Speaker 2: of the broom, closet. I did this thing like I

833
00:40:46,281 --> 00:40:48,281
Speaker 2: literally had like I don't know, two thousand follows on

834
00:40:48,321 --> 00:40:51,001
Speaker 2: Instagram or something, and I played this like fun game

835
00:40:51,041 --> 00:40:53,801
Speaker 2: where I was like, I'm going to pretend to be

836
00:40:53,921 --> 00:40:57,001
Speaker 2: Mickey the Medium and just like you can ask questions

837
00:40:57,041 --> 00:40:59,921
Speaker 2: and I'm just going to And it was my way

838
00:40:59,961 --> 00:41:03,481
Speaker 2: of going like of practicing without people knowing that I

839
00:41:03,521 --> 00:41:08,081
Speaker 2: was practicing. And somehow you got wind of it or whatever,

840
00:41:08,161 --> 00:41:10,921
Speaker 2: because obviously I was being Mickey the Medium because David

841
00:41:10,961 --> 00:41:12,601
Speaker 2: the Medium and I was a big fan of yours

842
00:41:12,641 --> 00:41:16,721
Speaker 2: and all of that, and you asked me a question.

843
00:41:16,801 --> 00:41:18,601
Speaker 2: You were like, oh, okay, where am I going to

844
00:41:18,681 --> 00:41:20,601
Speaker 2: move this? Like do you don't even want to know

845
00:41:20,641 --> 00:41:23,161
Speaker 2: how much space in my brain this has taken David.

846
00:41:23,881 --> 00:41:25,401
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm fascinated by this.

847
00:41:25,761 --> 00:41:29,361
Speaker 2: And it's so because at the time I remember and

848
00:41:29,481 --> 00:41:31,601
Speaker 2: I said something about how you were like going to

849
00:41:31,601 --> 00:41:34,721
Speaker 2: be moving to like this I see and I still

850
00:41:34,721 --> 00:41:38,841
Speaker 2: actually do see this by the way, like something this

851
00:41:39,281 --> 00:41:41,401
Speaker 2: big sort of block of land and it was near

852
00:41:41,441 --> 00:41:43,361
Speaker 2: a vinyard. I always just see a vineyard and like

853
00:41:43,401 --> 00:41:46,561
Speaker 2: you're near a vineyard and you're like, no, I'm moving

854
00:41:46,601 --> 00:41:49,001
Speaker 2: to a unit by the beach and I'm like.

855
00:41:49,161 --> 00:41:51,321
Speaker 1: Fuck, oh my god, I'm the worst. And I'm like, no,

856
00:41:51,361 --> 00:41:54,121
Speaker 1: but I saw by the beach. But it was just

857
00:41:54,201 --> 00:41:55,601
Speaker 1: so it's so.

858
00:41:57,241 --> 00:42:00,881
Speaker 2: Just like fascinating, just that journey and and I'm like,

859
00:42:00,881 --> 00:42:02,601
Speaker 2: I'm going to have to bring this up because it's

860
00:42:02,601 --> 00:42:06,121
Speaker 2: literally haunted me since it happened.

861
00:42:06,601 --> 00:42:09,121
Speaker 3: But and also still to tell you, I still do.

862
00:42:09,161 --> 00:42:11,801
Speaker 2: See you eventually moving somewhere near a vinyard and when that.

863
00:42:12,521 --> 00:42:14,961
Speaker 4: So that's when you said that. Just then I was like, this,

864
00:42:15,161 --> 00:42:18,961
Speaker 4: that's the dream, Like I would like to do that

865
00:42:19,081 --> 00:42:21,681
Speaker 4: one percent have a bit of land and a pinion nearby.

866
00:42:21,721 --> 00:42:23,681
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to manage to be because

867
00:42:23,681 --> 00:42:25,561
Speaker 4: I don't even know where to begin. But no, there's

868
00:42:25,601 --> 00:42:26,161
Speaker 4: one around.

869
00:42:27,361 --> 00:42:29,241
Speaker 3: It feels like it's like really close.

870
00:42:29,281 --> 00:42:32,041
Speaker 2: It's like next door basically, or it's just like hobbing

871
00:42:32,201 --> 00:42:34,161
Speaker 2: like ni. Yeah, but anyway, just so you know you

872
00:42:34,201 --> 00:42:36,161
Speaker 2: are moving to a vinyard at some stage.

873
00:42:36,321 --> 00:42:38,921
Speaker 4: I love that. I want you to read me properly,

874
00:42:39,001 --> 00:42:41,241
Speaker 4: Like I don't get to talk to many medians, so

875
00:42:41,961 --> 00:42:43,521
Speaker 4: I want to turn your I mean I want to

876
00:42:43,521 --> 00:42:44,961
Speaker 4: read you as well, of course, but I kind of

877
00:42:44,961 --> 00:42:45,561
Speaker 4: want you to read me.

878
00:42:46,241 --> 00:42:48,561
Speaker 2: Oh we can take turns, we can do like a

879
00:42:49,001 --> 00:42:52,201
Speaker 2: reading spot. Well, is there is there anything that like

880
00:42:52,321 --> 00:42:53,961
Speaker 2: just one thing that's coming through.

881
00:42:53,761 --> 00:42:54,281
Speaker 1: For you for me?

882
00:42:54,841 --> 00:42:57,721
Speaker 4: Oh okay, let's well when you get up on the

883
00:42:57,801 --> 00:42:59,841
Speaker 4: screen at the very start, I want to see where

884
00:42:59,881 --> 00:43:02,041
Speaker 4: we go with this. Actually as well, So you did

885
00:43:02,041 --> 00:43:04,881
Speaker 4: have an older female at the very start, and it

886
00:43:05,241 --> 00:43:07,521
Speaker 4: there's a validation of like she probably comes into you

887
00:43:07,521 --> 00:43:09,481
Speaker 4: already quite a lot. And she says, but I've never

888
00:43:09,521 --> 00:43:12,761
Speaker 4: been able to really talk like this before. She's referencing

889
00:43:12,801 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: the name like Laurie or like like she says, that's

890
00:43:17,521 --> 00:43:18,761
Speaker 4: my man, that's the.

891
00:43:18,841 --> 00:43:24,241
Speaker 2: Man, that's my my nana, and Laurie her husband, my grandfather.

892
00:43:24,281 --> 00:43:26,121
Speaker 1: I knew. I was like, Nana will come through.

893
00:43:26,641 --> 00:43:32,241
Speaker 4: Yeah, can hear from the start? Yeah, so uh I

894
00:43:32,281 --> 00:43:38,161
Speaker 4: want to and she's referencing. It's all good. I can talk.

895
00:43:38,161 --> 00:43:39,721
Speaker 4: I can talk. I'm like, you can talk this, you

896
00:43:39,761 --> 00:43:43,721
Speaker 4: can talk? Yes? When like, can you talk to her directly? Yes?

897
00:43:44,401 --> 00:43:46,481
Speaker 4: So I can't do that with my loved ones. Oh

898
00:43:46,561 --> 00:43:49,281
Speaker 4: really yeah, Like I can sense them around and I

899
00:43:49,281 --> 00:43:53,041
Speaker 4: will get downloads and indications, but I can't talk to

900
00:43:53,081 --> 00:43:53,761
Speaker 4: them one on one.

901
00:43:54,561 --> 00:43:57,361
Speaker 2: Interesting, I think she's she's the only one that I

902
00:43:57,401 --> 00:44:01,201
Speaker 2: really do, and she's the only one that yeah, I've

903
00:44:01,201 --> 00:44:03,761
Speaker 2: never really thought about that, but I can talk to

904
00:44:03,801 --> 00:44:07,481
Speaker 2: her like I'm having a conversation with someone who's literally alive.

905
00:44:08,961 --> 00:44:11,361
Speaker 4: I'm so jalous because that's what I want. But I

906
00:44:11,401 --> 00:44:13,161
Speaker 4: find with a lot of mediums. I mean, I had

907
00:44:13,201 --> 00:44:15,521
Speaker 4: a feeling that you probably could to be there, but

908
00:44:15,601 --> 00:44:19,241
Speaker 4: I find a lot of us can't. So when her

909
00:44:19,321 --> 00:44:20,801
Speaker 4: energy sort of came forward, I was like, I reckon,

910
00:44:21,001 --> 00:44:23,241
Speaker 4: you can just actually talk to her. But yes, I

911
00:44:23,321 --> 00:44:25,241
Speaker 4: know that she does comport as well. I would reference

912
00:44:25,281 --> 00:44:27,401
Speaker 4: this as my mum's mum at the same time as well,

913
00:44:27,401 --> 00:44:30,841
Speaker 4: because she's connecting with the feminine side of the family

914
00:44:30,881 --> 00:44:33,641
Speaker 4: here as well, looking after my daughter. She's really proud

915
00:44:33,681 --> 00:44:37,521
Speaker 4: of in a lot of ways with you, and it's

916
00:44:37,641 --> 00:44:41,561
Speaker 4: nothing against Laurie or her like the man in her

917
00:44:41,601 --> 00:44:43,321
Speaker 4: life as well. But when I look at you, she

918
00:44:43,401 --> 00:44:45,161
Speaker 4: goes like this, So see, I'm going to really break

919
00:44:45,161 --> 00:44:46,761
Speaker 4: in the chains and a lot of it for you.

920
00:44:46,961 --> 00:44:50,081
Speaker 4: It is the lessons that you've learned on sort of

921
00:44:50,161 --> 00:44:54,481
Speaker 4: like the ancestral female about how we sort of separate

922
00:44:54,521 --> 00:44:58,041
Speaker 4: ourselves from like shit men, in particular, breaking the chains

923
00:44:58,041 --> 00:45:01,881
Speaker 4: of feeling sort of subserviing to things. I mean, you

924
00:45:01,921 --> 00:45:05,641
Speaker 4: may have thought about this with your audience podcasts and

925
00:45:05,641 --> 00:45:08,161
Speaker 4: all that already, but you know when for example, I'm

926
00:45:08,161 --> 00:45:09,761
Speaker 4: sorry the sound personal, but if I look at your

927
00:45:09,761 --> 00:45:13,641
Speaker 4: father's energy, like, I'm just like a lot of Yeah.

928
00:45:13,681 --> 00:45:16,761
Speaker 4: So they're really proud about how the lessons that you've

929
00:45:16,841 --> 00:45:21,201
Speaker 4: learned through the trauma. Because I always say our gifts

930
00:45:21,481 --> 00:45:23,481
Speaker 4: and I sort of was thinking this before when we

931
00:45:23,481 --> 00:45:26,601
Speaker 4: were touching on childbirth. The spiritual gifts for a lot

932
00:45:26,641 --> 00:45:31,041
Speaker 4: of people are born in trauma and childbirth. Yeah, so

933
00:45:31,081 --> 00:45:34,521
Speaker 4: when we go through really bad traumas or also when

934
00:45:34,561 --> 00:45:39,881
Speaker 4: we go through childbirth, it really enhances our connections and

935
00:45:39,961 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 4: understandings with other energies and frequency. So for you spirit story,

936
00:45:44,521 --> 00:45:45,921
Speaker 4: where does gen connect Jen?

937
00:45:46,121 --> 00:45:48,761
Speaker 1: That's her name, Jen, Jennifer.

938
00:45:48,441 --> 00:45:53,081
Speaker 4: Perfect, Yeah, okay, yeah, perfect. So where Jen goes with it,

939
00:45:53,081 --> 00:45:55,161
Speaker 4: it's the element of been incredibly proud of my girl,

940
00:45:55,201 --> 00:45:57,921
Speaker 4: which is you obviously, because it's sort of like being

941
00:45:57,961 --> 00:46:00,081
Speaker 4: able to be there and be in her life for

942
00:46:00,121 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: so long, which would indicate that she may cross over

943
00:46:02,441 --> 00:46:05,321
Speaker 4: when you're an adult yourself. It's this understanding have been

944
00:46:05,321 --> 00:46:07,561
Speaker 4: able to see her journey and especially now that I'm

945
00:46:07,601 --> 00:46:09,401
Speaker 4: up here, David, she says, I'm so glad. I can

946
00:46:09,481 --> 00:46:13,001
Speaker 4: just tell her how proud I am at that. Oh,

947
00:46:13,041 --> 00:46:17,041
Speaker 4: and the ability to have the conversation or the conversations,

948
00:46:17,081 --> 00:46:19,121
Speaker 4: the ability to have the conversations that we already have.

949
00:46:19,681 --> 00:46:23,241
Speaker 4: She knows that I'm guiding. I'm guiding. There's a younger

950
00:46:23,241 --> 00:46:26,841
Speaker 4: female around you as well at the same time, who's

951
00:46:26,881 --> 00:46:30,001
Speaker 4: not your grandmother, obviously, but she does validate kind of

952
00:46:30,001 --> 00:46:31,881
Speaker 4: being a bit in the distance a little bit. But yeah,

953
00:46:32,161 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 4: Jenny in particular is just really dominating the reading. Yeah,

954
00:46:35,441 --> 00:46:38,321
Speaker 4: I only said you've got three kids, he says. I

955
00:46:38,321 --> 00:46:41,761
Speaker 4: think we're done. I think we're done, So I'll let

956
00:46:41,801 --> 00:46:43,001
Speaker 4: you be the judge. Does that do you want for?

957
00:46:44,601 --> 00:46:46,561
Speaker 2: I know, there's a little boy who really wanted to

958
00:46:46,561 --> 00:46:49,721
Speaker 2: come through, and I was like, no, ye, don't.

959
00:46:49,481 --> 00:46:51,121
Speaker 4: Tell me your mum's name. What's the first letter of

960
00:46:51,201 --> 00:46:55,881
Speaker 4: your mum's name. Ay, Well, she's referencing my middle name,

961
00:46:55,921 --> 00:46:58,601
Speaker 4: which is Andrew, So to translate that into female mum

962
00:46:58,641 --> 00:47:01,761
Speaker 4: would be Andy or Andrea probably Andrea. Yeah.

963
00:47:01,521 --> 00:47:04,761
Speaker 1: Yeah, names, Yeah, I know, because names for.

964
00:47:04,801 --> 00:47:06,841
Speaker 4: Me was the thing that I wanted to connect with

965
00:47:06,881 --> 00:47:11,921
Speaker 4: the most, because when I was learning names, It's all

966
00:47:11,961 --> 00:47:13,241
Speaker 4: well and good to be like, Okay, i've got an

967
00:47:13,281 --> 00:47:16,161
Speaker 4: older female, I'm doing the letter OL. But our personal

968
00:47:16,201 --> 00:47:18,881
Speaker 4: connection with our love onnted spirit is through their name

969
00:47:19,041 --> 00:47:21,601
Speaker 4: because that's how we associate, that's how we connect them with.

970
00:47:21,681 --> 00:47:24,161
Speaker 4: So as a medium, at the very start, that was

971
00:47:24,161 --> 00:47:27,001
Speaker 4: something I really got drawn into. I was like, you

972
00:47:27,121 --> 00:47:29,161
Speaker 4: have to show me people that I know and I

973
00:47:29,201 --> 00:47:32,001
Speaker 4: can associate the names, or we use pop culture for names.

974
00:47:32,241 --> 00:47:33,521
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't want to say we've got

975
00:47:33,561 --> 00:47:35,241
Speaker 4: a female with a letter L or a male with

976
00:47:35,241 --> 00:47:37,121
Speaker 4: a letter PL that you needed to show me people

977
00:47:38,321 --> 00:47:38,721
Speaker 4: I love.

978
00:47:38,841 --> 00:47:42,041
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm also learning here because I get I struggle

979
00:47:42,081 --> 00:47:44,721
Speaker 2: with the trust of names of like freaking out that

980
00:47:44,761 --> 00:47:46,681
Speaker 2: I'm going to say it wrong.

981
00:47:47,721 --> 00:47:50,161
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a big thing as well, because like

982
00:47:50,641 --> 00:47:53,241
Speaker 4: as a medium, like I've done this full time for

983
00:47:53,361 --> 00:47:56,761
Speaker 4: coming on eight years, and I want everyone listening who

984
00:47:56,801 --> 00:47:59,761
Speaker 4: may be developing their skills or that maybe maybe more ready.

985
00:48:00,441 --> 00:48:03,001
Speaker 4: Like even as David the medium, I still go into

986
00:48:03,001 --> 00:48:04,881
Speaker 4: every reading shitty myself that I'm not going to feel

987
00:48:04,881 --> 00:48:08,841
Speaker 4: any wow, Like it doesn't matter how long we've been

988
00:48:08,841 --> 00:48:11,521
Speaker 4: doing it, how good other people, maybe even perceive us

989
00:48:11,561 --> 00:48:13,601
Speaker 4: to be. How good we think that we are, Like

990
00:48:14,481 --> 00:48:16,361
Speaker 4: it goes back to that one. We're still human and

991
00:48:16,441 --> 00:48:18,841
Speaker 4: humans afford creatures. It's love, doubts, it's loved peers, We've

992
00:48:18,881 --> 00:48:20,721
Speaker 4: we've got all that. Being a meetium doesn't change that.

993
00:48:20,961 --> 00:48:23,721
Speaker 4: So it helps ground me at the same time as well,

994
00:48:23,761 --> 00:48:25,681
Speaker 4: because I never want to even think that I'm the

995
00:48:25,681 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 4: best ever anyway, you know what I mean. I still

996
00:48:27,481 --> 00:48:29,361
Speaker 4: go into it being like, Okay, this is just like

997
00:48:29,481 --> 00:48:32,441
Speaker 4: I don't know if what I'm saying is making sense

998
00:48:32,481 --> 00:48:36,201
Speaker 4: to people, like not nervous per se, but I'm still like, Okay,

999
00:48:36,201 --> 00:48:37,601
Speaker 4: I hope what I say it makes sense. I hope

1000
00:48:37,601 --> 00:48:39,241
Speaker 4: I get the connection right. I hope I pick up

1001
00:48:39,241 --> 00:48:41,001
Speaker 4: on every spirit the months to come forward, Like there's

1002
00:48:41,001 --> 00:48:44,201
Speaker 4: always those that in built fears for want of a

1003
00:48:44,201 --> 00:48:46,881
Speaker 4: better phrase, and fear doesn't exist like fear is a liar.

1004
00:48:46,921 --> 00:48:50,561
Speaker 4: Fear doesn't. This is an emotion per se. It's just

1005
00:48:50,601 --> 00:48:54,361
Speaker 4: something that we all create in our head that it's important.

1006
00:48:54,401 --> 00:48:56,601
Speaker 4: It helps ground us and it helps I think in

1007
00:48:56,681 --> 00:48:59,481
Speaker 4: some ways also want us to be better than we

1008
00:48:59,481 --> 00:49:01,721
Speaker 4: were yesterday as well, because it pushes and motivates us

1009
00:49:01,761 --> 00:49:02,481
Speaker 4: at the same time.

1010
00:49:02,801 --> 00:49:03,881
Speaker 1: I know we have to start.

1011
00:49:03,921 --> 00:49:06,241
Speaker 2: I know, like I've taken up so much of your

1012
00:49:06,281 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: time already, and I feel like we could probably talk

1013
00:49:09,521 --> 00:49:13,041
Speaker 2: for a thousand years. It's so fun getting to like

1014
00:49:13,161 --> 00:49:16,761
Speaker 2: even do this with other mediums, and like the constant learning.

1015
00:49:17,161 --> 00:49:18,961
Speaker 2: That was even a question that I had for you,

1016
00:49:19,041 --> 00:49:22,201
Speaker 2: like is there anything that you feel like you are

1017
00:49:22,241 --> 00:49:23,841
Speaker 2: excited to learn more about?

1018
00:49:25,481 --> 00:49:29,281
Speaker 4: I think that even though I've known I've been able

1019
00:49:29,281 --> 00:49:31,721
Speaker 4: to be a medium for coming on fourteen years and

1020
00:49:31,761 --> 00:49:34,521
Speaker 4: I've been full time for coming on eight, I fairly

1021
00:49:34,641 --> 00:49:38,561
Speaker 4: stretched the fucking surface, like I really ei, there's so

1022
00:49:38,761 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 4: many and I grew up we always been very inquisitive,

1023
00:49:44,561 --> 00:49:47,081
Speaker 4: like I like to think that I'm quite knowledgeable. I'm

1024
00:49:47,121 --> 00:49:50,241
Speaker 4: quite worldly, Like I love even before I was able

1025
00:49:50,281 --> 00:49:52,881
Speaker 4: to mid my love seeing things from other people's perspectives,

1026
00:49:52,921 --> 00:49:56,201
Speaker 4: because that's how I form my opinions on things, because

1027
00:49:56,201 --> 00:49:57,641
Speaker 4: then if I can look at both sides of the

1028
00:49:57,761 --> 00:49:59,681
Speaker 4: argument and then sort of be like, okay, well, I

1029
00:49:59,721 --> 00:50:01,521
Speaker 4: think that iligned more with that, Like I've always done

1030
00:50:01,521 --> 00:50:06,521
Speaker 4: that throughout life. But then when we come into spirituality

1031
00:50:06,641 --> 00:50:09,161
Speaker 4: and energy, and I mean it's like where do you

1032
00:50:09,241 --> 00:50:11,681
Speaker 4: even begin to be very pass that's the thing. It's

1033
00:50:11,721 --> 00:50:14,281
Speaker 4: sort of like there's just so much more that I

1034
00:50:14,321 --> 00:50:16,321
Speaker 4: want to delve into. Like I want to learn about aliens.

1035
00:50:16,321 --> 00:50:18,441
Speaker 4: I'd love to learn astrology. I don't even know how

1036
00:50:18,441 --> 00:50:20,641
Speaker 4: to do tarot properly. I'd love to learn tarot, like

1037
00:50:22,081 --> 00:50:24,641
Speaker 4: I want to talk to the galactic I want to

1038
00:50:24,801 --> 00:50:28,001
Speaker 4: like I want to understand the archaicic records. I want

1039
00:50:28,041 --> 00:50:31,441
Speaker 4: to do time traveling in my meditations, like you know.

1040
00:50:31,521 --> 00:50:35,721
Speaker 4: That's the thing. So I am an open book. At

1041
00:50:35,721 --> 00:50:41,001
Speaker 4: the same time, I'm excited for what's next because I

1042
00:50:41,081 --> 00:50:42,561
Speaker 4: know that I'm not going to say the same. I mean,

1043
00:50:42,561 --> 00:50:45,601
Speaker 4: the one constant anyone has in life is changed, Like

1044
00:50:45,681 --> 00:50:48,841
Speaker 4: we are always going to change, irregardless of whether we

1045
00:50:48,881 --> 00:50:51,001
Speaker 4: want to or not, and I want to. So I'm

1046
00:50:51,001 --> 00:50:52,401
Speaker 4: excited to see what comes next.

1047
00:50:52,561 --> 00:50:55,041
Speaker 2: Well, we should probably wrap it up because I know

1048
00:50:55,121 --> 00:50:58,881
Speaker 2: you've got shit to do, and it has been such

1049
00:50:58,921 --> 00:51:00,161
Speaker 2: an amazing chat though.

1050
00:51:00,281 --> 00:51:02,561
Speaker 1: It's been such an honor to have you on and be.

1051
00:51:02,561 --> 00:51:06,081
Speaker 2: Able to have this conversation, so thanks, thank you so much.

1052
00:51:06,361 --> 00:51:09,721
Speaker 2: I know you've got shows coming up, and I'll have

1053
00:51:09,921 --> 00:51:12,121
Speaker 2: all of those in the show notes. But tell people

1054
00:51:12,121 --> 00:51:15,481
Speaker 2: how they can find you, how they can work with

1055
00:51:15,601 --> 00:51:17,001
Speaker 2: you access you all of that.

1056
00:51:17,681 --> 00:51:19,201
Speaker 4: No, thank you well. First and foremost is it an

1057
00:51:19,241 --> 00:51:21,481
Speaker 4: absolute pleasure to be a guest on your show. But

1058
00:51:22,081 --> 00:51:24,401
Speaker 4: if you would like to follow along, my Instagram is

1059
00:51:24,441 --> 00:51:28,281
Speaker 4: at David the Medium and I post a lot of predictions.

1060
00:51:28,281 --> 00:51:31,001
Speaker 4: They're also daily life updates is everything that's going on.

1061
00:51:31,161 --> 00:51:34,121
Speaker 4: Website is David at the Medium dot com and that's

1062
00:51:34,121 --> 00:51:36,921
Speaker 4: where all my readings are released when availability is available,

1063
00:51:37,041 --> 00:51:42,681
Speaker 4: availability develoable, and I also post on my live shows

1064
00:51:42,721 --> 00:51:45,801
Speaker 4: on YouTube, so it's our YouTube dot com plus at

1065
00:51:45,961 --> 00:51:49,241
Speaker 4: David the Medium of yt YT You've been two letters,

1066
00:51:49,641 --> 00:51:51,401
Speaker 4: so you can watch my live shows there for anyone

1067
00:51:51,481 --> 00:51:55,881
Speaker 4: that's interested in Yeah, follow along on Instagram, come to

1068
00:51:56,001 --> 00:51:59,801
Speaker 4: YouTube and yes, my next live show coming up will

1069
00:51:59,801 --> 00:52:02,361
Speaker 4: be Adelaide on September twenty one, so only one in

1070
00:52:02,401 --> 00:52:05,841
Speaker 4: South Australia, but there's a handful of cans still left

1071
00:52:05,841 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 4: to that, so come along to Adelaide and I will

1072
00:52:08,481 --> 00:52:11,561
Speaker 4: be in Melbourne again in November and then twenty twenty

1073
00:52:11,601 --> 00:52:14,161
Speaker 4: five we're going to go even bigger and larger.

1074
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Speaker 2: Yes, I cannot wait. I will absolutely be coming to

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Speaker 2: a show for sure. Thank you so much, David.

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Speaker 1: It's been such a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much,