WEBVTT - Sharri | 7 November

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Sky News.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Sharry, Thanks Andrew. Good evening and first tonight

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<v Speaker 2>to the Democrat and media meltdown over Donald Trump's win.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night, when it was clear voters had elected Trump

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<v Speaker 2>the forty seventh president of the United States, Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>didn't concede defeat. She didn't call him or address her

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<v Speaker 2>supporters who'd worked tirelessly for her. Instead, after learning the

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<v Speaker 2>news that Trump had won, she waited a full fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>hours before coming out to address the nation, fourteen hours

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<v Speaker 2>to accept the election result and actually show up. It

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<v Speaker 2>was four o'clock in the afternoon US time when she

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<v Speaker 2>finally made these remarks.

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<v Speaker 3>We all loyalty not to a president or a party,

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<v Speaker 3>but to the Constitution of the United States, and loyalty

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<v Speaker 3>to our conscience and to our God.

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<v Speaker 2>My allegiance to.

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<v Speaker 3>All three is why I am here to say, while

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<v Speaker 3>I conceive this election, I do not concede the fate

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<v Speaker 3>that fueled this campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an odd message to send, but as you

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<v Speaker 2>can see, she looked drawn and devastated. It's almost as

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<v Speaker 2>though the result came as a total shock to her

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<v Speaker 2>and to the Democrats. They never could have imagined that

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<v Speaker 2>anyone would possibly vote for Donald Trump because of course

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<v Speaker 2>his hitler, he's a Nazi, he's a fascist. But seventy

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<v Speaker 2>two point six million Americans did, and counting, that's nearly

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one percent of voters.

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<v Speaker 4>So are the.

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats now saying that all of those seventy two point

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<v Speaker 2>six million people, including black Americans, including Hispanics, are racist.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they saying that the tens of millions of women

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<v Speaker 2>who voted for Trump a sexist, because that was the

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<v Speaker 2>excuse from some in the media and some Democrats today

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<v Speaker 2>for why Kamala didn't win. Sexism and racism. Have a look.

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<v Speaker 5>There were appeals to racism in this campaign, and there

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<v Speaker 5>is racial bias in this country, and there is sexism

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<v Speaker 5>in this country. And anybody who thinks that that did

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<v Speaker 5>not in any way impact on the outcome of this

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<v Speaker 5>race is wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>That message obviously was not enough to get enough white

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<v Speaker 6>women to vote for Vice President Harris, a fellow woman.

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<v Speaker 6>This will be the second opportunity that white women in

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<v Speaker 6>this country have to change the way that they interact

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<v Speaker 6>with the patriarchy.

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<v Speaker 7>She is a person of color, she is a she,

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<v Speaker 7>and she is an interracial marriage.

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<v Speaker 8>And I wonder I have this question mark in my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Over whether all of those things combined was too much

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<v Speaker 2>for pockets of this country. Others meanwhile, said Kamala lost

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<v Speaker 2>because voters no longer believed in democracy.

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<v Speaker 9>I can't help but think that if this selection seems

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<v Speaker 9>to be if it proves out that the millions of

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<v Speaker 9>people who are watching Fox News, if that ends up

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<v Speaker 9>being the case.

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<v Speaker 8>Then.

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<v Speaker 9>I can't help but wonder if the American people have

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<v Speaker 9>given up on democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this result is the very reflection of democracy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>democracy in action. Trump's wayen is not because voters have

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<v Speaker 2>abandoned democracy. It's the precise opposite. It's because voters have

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<v Speaker 2>embraced it. Americans didn't want to be told how to vote,

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<v Speaker 2>how to think, what to do, by the media, by politicians,

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<v Speaker 2>and by celebrities. Remember all those pop stars who told

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<v Speaker 2>voters they just had to support one candidate, Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 10>Have been ready to change the next eight years because

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<v Speaker 10>we're going to make sure we have Kamala Harris in office.

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<v Speaker 7>For eight year.

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<v Speaker 6>Women supporting and celebrating the one and only Vice President

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<v Speaker 6>Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 7>And you are the ones who are going to send

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<v Speaker 7>the message that Nevada is Harris Country.

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<v Speaker 2>But then, to top all of that, I still can't

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<v Speaker 2>get over the most outrageous and dishonest threat that Oprah

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<v Speaker 2>made that there'd be no more future elections. Voters chose

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. Have a look at that.

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<v Speaker 6>If we don't show up tomorrow, it is entirely possible

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<v Speaker 6>that we will not have the opportunity to.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever cast a ballot again. You can't blame sexism or

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<v Speaker 2>racism or abandoning democracy for Trump winning. That's all nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>This was voters caring about substance over identity, politics, caring

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<v Speaker 2>about policy over celebrity, caring about their future over the vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>These are issues that millionaire pop stars can't possibly relate

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<v Speaker 2>to concerns about famili's financial future and giving their kids

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<v Speaker 2>the best chance at life. And the result is also

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<v Speaker 2>a thorough rejection of woke policies of DEI, of the

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<v Speaker 2>radical progressive wave the Democrat Party has been forcing on Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>and similar to what's going on in Australia as well,

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<v Speaker 2>this result is voters saying that they want to return

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<v Speaker 2>to the things that actually matter, the economy, the cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living, border control, national security and safety. On the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why Trump had a clean sweep. He's won

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and ninety five states, He's won the Senate,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're waiting to see if he wins the House.

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<v Speaker 2>But despite this resounding and decisive vote, some Democrats would

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<v Speaker 2>still like to throw him in prison if they could.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's New York Attorney General Letitia James today declaring war.

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<v Speaker 11>We face this challenge before, and we use the rule

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<v Speaker 11>of law to fight back, and we are prepared to

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<v Speaker 11>fight back once again because as the attorney general of

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<v Speaker 11>this greetstate, is my job to protect and defend the

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<v Speaker 11>rates of New Yorkers and the rule of law.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a unity, this is division. It's warfare. And

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<v Speaker 2>imagine if just twenty four hours after the election, if

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<v Speaker 2>Trump had said something like that, he'd be accused of

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<v Speaker 2>inciting violence. Were his son Eric today said that this

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<v Speaker 2>politics of fear is far from inspirational.

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<v Speaker 7>Laura, how can that inspire you? That doesn't inspire people

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<v Speaker 7>in this country? You know what it inspires people when

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<v Speaker 7>when somebody, when a man comes out, I guess all

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<v Speaker 7>odds fights every day of his life to say, listen,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to deliver America. The greatest economy. We're going

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<v Speaker 7>to be the best country in the world. We're going

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<v Speaker 7>to win it everything where we do. We're going to

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<v Speaker 7>win it. Education, we're gonna have the best military. We're

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<v Speaker 7>going to take care of our vests. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 7>right to try.

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<v Speaker 2>But for most of America, or half of America, Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>win well was well received. The Dow Jones was up

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<v Speaker 2>one five hundred and seven points, the first time in

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<v Speaker 2>two years it jumped more than a thousand points in

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<v Speaker 2>a single day. Internationally, world leaders have been calling Trump

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<v Speaker 2>wishing him congratulations, including of course our Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi,

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<v Speaker 2>who probably made the call through gritted to you after

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<v Speaker 2>previously saying he was scared of him.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an alliance with the US. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with him.

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<v Speaker 12>But that doesn't mean that you're uncritical about it. He's

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<v Speaker 12>scared academy, and I think it's of some concern that

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<v Speaker 12>the leader of the free world thinks that you can

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<v Speaker 12>conduct politics through one hundred and forty characters on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now the Albenzi government will be scared of the

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<v Speaker 2>obvious lessons from the American election that economy trumps all else,

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<v Speaker 2>that you can call someone a Nazi or a fascist,

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<v Speaker 2>but voters will see through it. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be lectured to like Albinizi did with the Voice. They're

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<v Speaker 2>sick of the work causes and the main issue they

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<v Speaker 2>care about, the only issue, the only critical issue, is

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<v Speaker 2>cost of living. With Australia's economy well behind the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the world, this should be terrifying Albinizi even more

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<v Speaker 2>than a Trump presidency. Now the Albenze government is scrambling

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<v Speaker 2>to show up support in the US in Washington after

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's win, with the Australian newspaper reporting that senior cabinet

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<v Speaker 2>ministers were very confident Kamala Harris would beat Trump and

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<v Speaker 2>that it would be business as usual for Australia. Yet again,

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<v Speaker 2>no understanding of the climate in America. But you can

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<v Speaker 2>imagine the Albanese government how they'd be feeling quite nervous

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<v Speaker 2>now given the past comments that many of them have

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<v Speaker 2>made about Trump. Now Kevin rad who of course is

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<v Speaker 2>our ambassador in Washington, he's in charge of handling our

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<v Speaker 2>critical relationship with the US. And just a reminder, and

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<v Speaker 2>I showed these back in March, but here's some footage

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<v Speaker 2>of what he said about Trump in the past.

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<v Speaker 10>The alliance is intrinsically valuable whatever the future may hold.

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<v Speaker 10>And Trump's only around for another three years.

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<v Speaker 4>May he is an.

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<v Speaker 13>Objective problem the world, for the regent, for my country,

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<v Speaker 13>and Donald, as.

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<v Speaker 1>We know, is not.

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<v Speaker 4>A leading intellectual force.

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<v Speaker 14>You looked at a Trump rally and how many angry

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<v Speaker 14>white men there are in those rallies.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so damaging. The Prime Minister today claimed that none

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<v Speaker 2>of this would be a problem.

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<v Speaker 15>Kevin Ruddy is doing a terrific job and it says

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<v Speaker 15>a lot about how important we regard the relationship with

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<v Speaker 15>the United States that we appointed a former prime minister.

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<v Speaker 15>Now I look forward to working with President Trump. I

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<v Speaker 15>look forward. I've had demonstrated, i think, my ability to

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<v Speaker 15>work with world leaders and to develop relationships with them

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<v Speaker 15>which are positive.

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<v Speaker 2>But Labor's obviously worried because today Sky News broke the

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<v Speaker 2>story that Rudd has been deleting disparaging comments that he

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<v Speaker 2>made about Trump on x. Rudd said in June twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty that Trump was the most destructive president in history.

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<v Speaker 2>He drags America and democracy through the mud. He thrives

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<v Speaker 2>and fermenting, not healing division. He abuses Christianity, Church and

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<v Speaker 2>Bible to justify violence, all aided and abetted by Murdoch's

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<v Speaker 2>Fox News networks in America. Welp that garbage has now

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<v Speaker 2>been deleted by Right, and so as this tweet from

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<v Speaker 2>February twenty twenty two, Donald Trump is a traitor to

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<v Speaker 2>the West. Murdoch was Trump's biggest backer, and honor goes

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<v Speaker 2>all gone or deleted. Rudd's private office said he did

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<v Speaker 2>this to eliminate the possibility of such comments being misconstrued

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<v Speaker 2>as reflecting his position as ambassador and by extension, the

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<v Speaker 2>views of the Australian government. But really this all just

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<v Speaker 2>draws more public attention to what Rudd has said repeat

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<v Speaker 2>in many occasions on video and on X in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is all right at the time, our government

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of all Australia needs to make sure the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship is rock solid. Well, Simon Birmingham today implied that

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<v Speaker 2>Rudd might have to go.

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<v Speaker 16>We want to see him succeed because it's in Australia's

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<v Speaker 16>best interest for our ambassador in Washington. Of course, Kevin

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<v Speaker 16>Right is not bigger than Australia's interests. Nor is Anthony

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<v Speaker 16>Alby's Albanese's personal commitment to Kevin Rudd.

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<v Speaker 2>And Michael Kroger said the same on My show, but

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<v Speaker 2>in stronger terms last night. Any decent ambassador, a Peacock,

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<v Speaker 2>a Beasley or Hockey, anyone who'd said that about the

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<v Speaker 2>US president would resign. It's shocking judgment. Kevin Rudd should

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<v Speaker 2>have known that there was a possibility Rudd could come

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<v Speaker 2>back in the future. The MAGA movement clearly never went away.

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<v Speaker 2>Really poor judgment. All right, let's bringing now a national

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<v Speaker 2>senator Matt Canavan and commentator Jason Morrison. Matt, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think do you think this does put all of

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<v Speaker 2>Australia in a difficult position because of Rudd's shocking judgment

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<v Speaker 2>in the past. I mean, those remarks were so juvenile.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, they were juvenile or unwise.

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<v Speaker 17>But I don't want to see Kevin go because I

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<v Speaker 17>don't think the Australian ambassad should be determined by the

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<v Speaker 17>votes of Americans. This is our ambassador, it's our country

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<v Speaker 17>and we should ultimately decide who is there. Obviously we

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<v Speaker 17>need him to work in our country's interests.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that can be done.

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<v Speaker 17>I mean, Donald Trump has shown a remarkable ability to

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<v Speaker 17>work with people that have said the most vitrolic thing

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<v Speaker 17>is about him in the past, including his vice presidential pick.

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<v Speaker 17>So look, obviously Kevin needs to apologize as he's had

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<v Speaker 17>as he has his apology needs to be as loud

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<v Speaker 17>as his disrespect was in the first place. And I

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<v Speaker 17>think if he shows signific and diplomatic skills, our relationship

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<v Speaker 17>will be fine. So look, I'm not too worked up

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<v Speaker 17>about it. I'm much more worked up about the government's

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<v Speaker 17>mad cap green climate policies and how that's at odds

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<v Speaker 17>with now the new administration's agenda and what that means

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<v Speaker 17>for our country. But who's actually in the ambassador's office

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<v Speaker 17>in Washington, DC. I don't think it affects many people's

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<v Speaker 17>lives here in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, Matt. I wasn't so worked up about

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<v Speaker 2>it last night either, because I'd been speaking to people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on this show, like Joe Hockey, who said

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<v Speaker 2>to me, Kevin Rudd's been working so hard to make

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<v Speaker 2>a man's building bridges. But then I watched those comments

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<v Speaker 2>that he made. I mean that was from my own

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<v Speaker 2>report back in March this year, and just look at

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<v Speaker 2>watching again the vitriol with which he criticized Trump's intellect,

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<v Speaker 2>how he called him a traitor, how he said he

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<v Speaker 2>was abusing Christianity in the Bible and lashed out at

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<v Speaker 2>all of us here at NewsCorp as well. And this

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately is the Prime Minister's bad judgment.

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<v Speaker 10>Look that he had to delete the tweets in its

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<v Speaker 10>self tells you how inappropriate a choice.

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<v Speaker 4>He was for the job in the first place. Everybody

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<v Speaker 4>knew it. Let's not kid ourselves.

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<v Speaker 10>He's over there because they've got the trouble out of

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<v Speaker 10>the room. You know, he's not there because he's the

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<v Speaker 10>greatest pick in Australia right now to go and represent

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<v Speaker 10>Australia's interest. He's there because if he stays here he

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<v Speaker 10>has a habit of causing trouble for his own team.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't keep his trap.

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<v Speaker 10>Shut, as that has demonstrated. So they had to get

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<v Speaker 10>him out of the country. There was a job hopefully

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<v Speaker 10>that'll work. It didn't work if he had any class

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<v Speaker 10>at all. And I'm saying this and the knowledge that

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<v Speaker 10>Kevin Rudd has none.

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<v Speaker 4>But if he had any class at all, he'd resign.

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<v Speaker 2>He would do.

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<v Speaker 10>What's best for Australia, and I take what Matt says,

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<v Speaker 10>and Matt is right. We shouldn't be dictated to by

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<v Speaker 10>another country as to who we send there, but we

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<v Speaker 10>should hope that someone, for god knows how what reason

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<v Speaker 10>ended up Prime Minister of Australia would have at least

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<v Speaker 10>the class, decency and intellect to figure out that this

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<v Speaker 10>may not be good for this country's best interest. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>right now there's farmers absolutely trembling at the prospect of tariff.

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<v Speaker 2>Changes and whatever. So it's going to bring that up road.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not going to be able to do anything. They

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<v Speaker 4>won't even talk to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly what I mean. Australia is going to be expecting

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<v Speaker 2>an exemption, ye as we've had in the past, the

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent tariffs. But we've got rud who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>negotiate that. Who said all these nasty things about Trump

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<v Speaker 2>before class should Trump have to just overlook it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a one off lapse of judgment. It was a repeat

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<v Speaker 2>pattern behavior. Matt, I want to ask you about this

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating move by the coalition. Now, the coalition like we

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<v Speaker 2>have at Sky News, like you know, people on the

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<v Speaker 2>left and right, we've all been extremely concerned about Alboneze

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<v Speaker 2>government's misinformation and disinformation built. We've been covering it on

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<v Speaker 2>this show extensively under the cover of the US election.

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<v Speaker 2>That was introduced yesterday for debate. Now, Matt, what's so

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<v Speaker 2>interesting though, is that now the coalition's saying, given Elon

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<v Speaker 2>Musk is going to have a senior role, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly what in the Trump administration. This is yet

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<v Speaker 2>another reason for Labor to dump the bill. Talk me

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<v Speaker 2>through this.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, look, I think this would be a much better

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<v Speaker 17>step than worrying about, as I say, who lives in

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<v Speaker 17>the ambassador residence in Washington, d C. This is going

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<v Speaker 17>to have a much bigger I think impact and ten

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<v Speaker 17>create tension with our relationship. Under this bill that the

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<v Speaker 17>government is proposing, not only does it silence the speech

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<v Speaker 17>of Australians, they are proposing too fine social media companies

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<v Speaker 17>up to five percent of their global revenue. It is

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<v Speaker 17>absolutely absurd. And this is not actually just about Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 17>Obviously that is an issue who he is very close

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<v Speaker 17>to Donald Trump and he's the owner of x slash Twitter.

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<v Speaker 17>But just the other week at Trump on the campaign

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<v Speaker 17>trail was saying how he was outraged at the EU

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<v Speaker 17>trying to find Apple twenty two billion dollars for various offenses,

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<v Speaker 17>and he was going to take up the cause of

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<v Speaker 17>Tim Cook if he became president again.

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<v Speaker 1>So clearly Donald Trump is going.

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<v Speaker 17>To defend the iNTS of American commercial companies as you'd

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<v Speaker 17>expect him to do as the American president. And if

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<v Speaker 17>we're serious about avoiding the impact of tariffs that Trump

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<v Speaker 17>might put in place, we would take these sort of

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<v Speaker 17>things off the table. As I said that, I'll have

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<v Speaker 17>more impact I think than who rocks up to talk

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<v Speaker 17>to the White House about Australian tariff. So the government

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<v Speaker 17>should It was always unwise this bill, but the government

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<v Speaker 17>should at least defer it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now and get the US relationship on solid ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason, what do you think about the fact that Albin

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<v Speaker 2>Ezi introduced this legislation for debate yesterday when everyone was

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<v Speaker 2>focused on the US election.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, and while it's still off at committee, there are

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<v Speaker 10>community groups in Australia for and against this that are

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<v Speaker 10>still waiting to have their say, and they were offered

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<v Speaker 10>that by the Parliament of Australia. So the bill is

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<v Speaker 10>still being investigated at the moment and they've flopped it

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<v Speaker 10>on the table and said, let's go for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's take advantage of the situation.

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<v Speaker 10>It says everything, and look the irony here the irony.

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<v Speaker 10>We have the political class. Sorry, Matt, I'll give you

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<v Speaker 10>an exemption just for a moment on this one. But

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<v Speaker 10>the political class, notorious for lying, bullshitting to the public,

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<v Speaker 10>that has the arrogance to want to introduce a bill

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<v Speaker 10>to protect them from disinformation, and they're doing it under

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<v Speaker 10>the cover the darkest, dirtiest political trick while the world's

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<v Speaker 10>look in another way, everything about the class of people

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<v Speaker 10>we have in that office.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I've said before, we've seen the number of

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<v Speaker 2>things that Anthony Albernezi himself has slapped the misinformation label on,

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<v Speaker 2>things like, you know, people who disagreed with the voice

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<v Speaker 2>that you know that was.

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<v Speaker 10>Most of this show, Actually most of this show is disinformation.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't help for Shari.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anything, well, you know, it's not even a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, you're exempt is exempt?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there are that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not exactly just trying.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not exactly correct, because if an individual shares content

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<v Speaker 2>that was produced by the media, then I understand that

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<v Speaker 2>individual could be true. It could be the ability.

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<v Speaker 4>To go and figure this out for itself.

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<v Speaker 10>It doesn't need Alban Easy or the righteous mob of

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<v Speaker 10>Akhma or anyone like that to go around and do it.

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<v Speaker 10>And we're sure as hell, we're sure as hell don't

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<v Speaker 10>need legislation sort of put in the back door, the

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<v Speaker 10>sly way, the dirty trainer and wants to see on

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<v Speaker 10>the worst possible day, it's just not the way it's

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<v Speaker 10>done here from the country first on this one and

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<v Speaker 10>realize the errors of your way, because we're waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Australia is waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say the situation is already bad enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Matt Canavan, you know this. During the COVID pandemic,

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<v Speaker 2>posts that were labeled misinformation and taken down included images

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<v Speaker 2>that mocked down your Landrys.

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<v Speaker 17>Exactly right. We remember you remember very well. So are

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<v Speaker 17>you're in the thick of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Posts that claim the virus came from a lab and

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<v Speaker 1>we han't. We're classified.

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<v Speaker 4>You've just got us off YouTube now mate, we won't

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<v Speaker 4>be able.

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<v Speaker 17>Still doing change that rule now, No, no's still doing

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<v Speaker 17>it on.

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<v Speaker 2>That issue, not on the COVID. That's not misinformation.

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<v Speaker 10>Anyone pulling it down, it down COVID, COVID, COVID.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, I'm sorry I've hit your monetization. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 17>it is just absurd. And Jason summed it up really well.

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<v Speaker 17>We do not need an information sar looking over every

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<v Speaker 17>one of Australian's shoulders. We're adults. We can assess for

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<v Speaker 17>ourselves the veracity of information. Let's let a thousand flowers

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<v Speaker 17>bloom and let people communicate freely.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly now. I want to ask you both about

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris taking around fourteen hours after the election result

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<v Speaker 2>became obvious before she eventually fronted the media. Jason, this

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<v Speaker 2>was so offensive and then her speech, what did you

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<v Speaker 2>make of it up? I didn't think it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what was she actually saying? You don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to respect of believe in one president or one political party.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to believe in the constitution. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>messages that sending to Democrats?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well they never get the message.

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<v Speaker 10>They're very slow learners, these people.

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<v Speaker 4>That was disgraceful.

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<v Speaker 10>The performance initially put aside her obligations to her country

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<v Speaker 10>that had just made a very profound choice about where.

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<v Speaker 4>It wanted to go with his future.

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<v Speaker 10>The day before but then to do it to her

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<v Speaker 10>support base and to show up with that contemptuous woffle

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<v Speaker 10>this morning. The words salad of platitudes and all the

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<v Speaker 10>lines she didn't get to use earlier in the campaign

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<v Speaker 10>got churned out for the speech last I just thought

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<v Speaker 10>it was disgraceful and it just confirms that she will

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<v Speaker 10>go down in history as a footnote that people will

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<v Speaker 10>forget and there'll be a trivial pursuit question one day,

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<v Speaker 10>and that'll be Kamala Harrison.

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<v Speaker 2>She could come back and take the party to another election.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Matt about the speech that she

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<v Speaker 2>finally gave after not speaking to her supporters last night.

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<v Speaker 17>Look, I didn't see the speech apart from the excerpts

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<v Speaker 17>I heard earlier. Look, I suppose I'd like to focus

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<v Speaker 17>on the positives today. I think it's been a positive

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<v Speaker 17>week for the world. I think Donald Trump is the

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<v Speaker 17>right choice, but it was always up to a Americans.

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<v Speaker 17>He won emphatically, and I think that's something to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 17>I was very worried about a close election either way

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<v Speaker 17>and the tensions that may create in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit of a tinderbox, but no one has won.

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<v Speaker 17>This is the largest electoral college result for Republicans since

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<v Speaker 17>nineteen eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>We had that confirmed today.

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<v Speaker 17>He's had massive swings right across the country, including in

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<v Speaker 17>blue states. I think the Democrats will here try Look

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<v Speaker 17>you can see some of them with the attorneyso on

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<v Speaker 17>New York continuing trying to continue the battle through other

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<v Speaker 17>means now, but I just think that'll probably fizz out.

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<v Speaker 17>It's been such an emphatic victory that I think the

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<v Speaker 17>vast majority of Americans will get behind the rehired president

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<v Speaker 17>in Donald Trump. And that would be a great thing

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<v Speaker 17>in the world if he could heal some of those

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<v Speaker 17>divisions in unite are the most important country in.

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<v Speaker 4>The free world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, wish for thinking, but you never know. Matt Canavan,

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Morrisen, great to see you both. Thank you all right,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's Cross Live to New York, where Ross Greenwood,

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<v Speaker 2>Sky News host joins us. Ross, you've been reporting doing

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<v Speaker 2>such a fantastic job over in New York and massive

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<v Speaker 2>news today. As we expected, there was a surge in

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<v Speaker 2>the stock market. I mean, the best result in a

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<v Speaker 2>single day in two years.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, that's right, and that was really the response to

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<v Speaker 18>Trump's victory is emphatic victory because to be honest, if

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<v Speaker 18>he'd not had control of the House or control of

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<v Speaker 18>the Senate, then the response on the markets would not

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<v Speaker 18>have been as great. But what this is all about

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<v Speaker 18>is Donald Trump being able to enact what he's been saying.

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<v Speaker 18>And this is one of the keys, is that people

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<v Speaker 18>have actually got to listen to Donald Trump, listen to

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<v Speaker 18>his policies and understand that that is now going to

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<v Speaker 18>come to pass. He will have nothing in the way

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<v Speaker 18>to actually enact things such as cutting taxes, reducing taxes

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<v Speaker 18>on tips, on overtime, on social services, and also cutting

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<v Speaker 18>tax rates. And so what he's going to do is

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<v Speaker 18>basically put more money in Americans hands, as he says,

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<v Speaker 18>bring more industry back into the United States. Just one thing, also,

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<v Speaker 18>is it today our time. There's going to be an

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<v Speaker 18>interest rate decision from the Federal Reserve.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's going to be an interst rate cut of.

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<v Speaker 18>At least a quarter of a percent. So they cut

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<v Speaker 18>by half a percent last month, quarter of a percent

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<v Speaker 18>this month, adding more stimulus into the US economy. So really,

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<v Speaker 18>in many ways the stock marketer is picking up this,

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<v Speaker 18>but just a little heads up, and this is something

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<v Speaker 18>for Australia to consider is that it's likely in the

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<v Speaker 18>longer term, with Trump pumping more money in the US

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<v Speaker 18>economy picks up, there will not be as many interest

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<v Speaker 18>rate cuts as people are expecting, and that may very

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<v Speaker 18>well transfer itself around the world and into Australia as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it could be slightly inflationary, is basically what you're saying. Ross.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen that. You know, Trump has been in our

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<v Speaker 2>data today with phone calls from world leaders. But you've

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<v Speaker 2>got I think some of those world leaders, if not

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<v Speaker 2>all of them, will be getting nervous about the tariffs

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<v Speaker 2>that he said he's going to introduce.

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<v Speaker 18>Absolutely, of course they would be. Can you imagine China.

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<v Speaker 18>He wants US sixty percent tariffs on goods coming in

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<v Speaker 18>from China, and what that's about is trying to drive

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<v Speaker 18>more businesses to invest in America. So the warning of

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<v Speaker 18>a twenty five percent tariff on goods coming in from Mexico. Previously,

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<v Speaker 18>the North American Free Trade Agreement has allowed goods to

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<v Speaker 18>come in without any additional taxes from Mexico. But he's

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<v Speaker 18>saying now, if you don't fix your borders, if you

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<v Speaker 18>don't stop the flow of people across those borders, then

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<v Speaker 18>we'll hit your goods with tariffs and really start to

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<v Speaker 18>stemy your economy. For Australia, a ten percent tariff on

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<v Speaker 18>all goods despite the fact that we have a free

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<v Speaker 18>trade agreement with the United States. Now the way in

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<v Speaker 18>which each individual country negotiates is going to also depend

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<v Speaker 18>on a whole bunch of other stuff, including how much

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<v Speaker 18>we spend on defense, and that's going to really trouble

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<v Speaker 18>I think the government and Jim Charmers in terms of

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<v Speaker 18>framing budgets now, and that's before the next election, because

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<v Speaker 18>the reality is unless you're spending two percent of the

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<v Speaker 18>budget here and in Europe, then the message is expect

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<v Speaker 18>the United States to.

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<v Speaker 1>Find a way to.

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<v Speaker 18>Get you to pay in other ways, and that could

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<v Speaker 18>be through tariffs. But remember that these tariffs will also

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<v Speaker 18>drive down taxes in the United States, and that's another

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<v Speaker 18>reason why the stock market, as we said, is stronger,

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<v Speaker 18>and also the US dollar is stronger as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the impact of the tariffs hasn't been thoroughly

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<v Speaker 2>understood yet or there's a lot of conflicting views on

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<v Speaker 2>how that will flow through the American economy. But ross interestingly,

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<v Speaker 2>the IBA Governor was asked about how this could impact

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<v Speaker 2>on Australia in cened estimates this morning. So let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a look at what Michelle bullacat to say.

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<v Speaker 19>Obviously, there's issues to do with elections, particularly the election

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<v Speaker 19>in the United States. What happens there remains to be seen,

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<v Speaker 19>so I think it to be early to judge what

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<v Speaker 19>some of the implications of that might be. There are

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<v Speaker 19>obviously people talking about the potential implications of tariffs and

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<v Speaker 19>those sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 2>So ross today, a federal Reserve decision in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States expected to be the second interest rate cut as

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<v Speaker 2>you've just flagged, and yet in Australia we've been on hold.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to have an interest rate cut at

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<v Speaker 2>least into well into next year. Why is Australia so

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<v Speaker 2>far behind on this inflation path than overseas.

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty easy, isn't it. You work it out.

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<v Speaker 18>The government spent a whole bunch of money, a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Of it off the books.

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<v Speaker 18>They've actually tried to artificially bring down the price or

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<v Speaker 18>the rate of inflation by handing out all of that

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<v Speaker 18>cost of living relief. In other words, making people feel

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<v Speaker 18>good about the government is what that's about. And then

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<v Speaker 18>try and really muscle the Reserve Bank in the cutting

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<v Speaker 18>interst rates which the Reserve.

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<v Speaker 1>Bank is seeing through.

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<v Speaker 18>And then consider wage rises in Australia's economy. This you know,

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<v Speaker 18>when you saw more of them come through this week,

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<v Speaker 18>the labor market strong. People are getting paid more money

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<v Speaker 18>and the fact is that really that is adding to inflation.

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<v Speaker 18>So while you've got this situation taking place in Australia,

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<v Speaker 18>it really and the government has got controls of some

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<v Speaker 18>of those leavers, it's not going to come down anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 18>Australia's economy is going pretty sideways at the moment, and

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<v Speaker 18>you'd reckon rather than handwringing at the moment, which many

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<v Speaker 18>Australians seem to be doing post this US election, they'd

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<v Speaker 18>be learning from the US election. They'd be actually understanding

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<v Speaker 18>that the people are pretty angry with politicians who don't

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<v Speaker 18>do something about the cost of living, who don't do

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<v Speaker 18>something about actually allowing them to get on with their business,

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<v Speaker 18>to encourage them to make more money, and to encourage

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<v Speaker 18>business to get on and make a few more dollars

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<v Speaker 18>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, Russ Greenwood again, congrats on a terrific week

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<v Speaker 2>covering the US election. We'll see you back here shortly

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<v Speaker 2>now still to come. I'm going to be joined after

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<v Speaker 2>the break by Paul Murray, and we'll look at just

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<v Speaker 2>how the Democrats have started to do soul searching, how

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<v Speaker 2>they're blaming everyone else but Kamala Harris. That's after the break,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back. Well, as we've been speaking about, Democrats are

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<v Speaker 2>now in a world of pain over the election result, sexism, racism,

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 2>anything but their own candidate. We've also heard that from

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat commentators across the board. Have they've all used the

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<v Speaker 2>same line that Kamala Harris ran a flawless campaign. Well

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<v Speaker 2>so flawless it delivered Donald Trump. Let's bring in our

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<v Speaker 2>Sky News host Paul Murray live in Washington. Paul, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was certainly flawless from Trump's perspective. It's always fun

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<v Speaker 2>watching the left wing meltdowns to fair elections. The excuses

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>for why Trump one are coming in thick and fast,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've even started to hear leaks from Joe Biden's

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<v Speaker 2>camp that he would have done better than Kamala.

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<v Speaker 14>See this is why I love you know we're on

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<v Speaker 14>exactly the same page because this is where the story

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<v Speaker 14>goes right, which is about the tension of Biden and Harris. Now,

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<v Speaker 14>so to explain the structure of the campaign, basically, the

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<v Speaker 14>entire machine that was there for Joe Biden, as soon

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<v Speaker 14>as Kamala Harris became the candidate, all of that machine

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<v Speaker 14>stayed in place. So obviously all of those people are

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<v Speaker 14>loyal to Biden, so any attempts to have a strategy

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<v Speaker 14>of throwing him under the bus, they were all going

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<v Speaker 14>to resist it. But there was somebody who was put

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<v Speaker 14>as the cherry on top for Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a man called David Pluff.

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<v Speaker 14>Now, David Pluff is a former the bloke who put

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<v Speaker 14>together the two thousand and eight and twenty twelve Obama victories,

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<v Speaker 14>made an awful lot of money in the private sector

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<v Speaker 14>and political advice since, and he sort of has sat

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<v Speaker 14>back a little bit as kind of like you know,

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<v Speaker 14>the perfect coach of the perfect team, all the rest

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<v Speaker 14>of it, and sort of as sat back and he

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<v Speaker 14>didn't get involved in Hillary.

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<v Speaker 4>And for him to now.

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<v Speaker 14>Be at the heart and soul of the Harris campaign,

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<v Speaker 14>we now have the beginnings of the fight for the narrative,

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<v Speaker 14>and it's the Obama camp versus the Biden camp versus

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<v Speaker 14>the Harris camp. And when you were saying that, all

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<v Speaker 14>the reporters all said the same thing at the same time.

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<v Speaker 14>Guess what, we all know where they were getting their information,

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<v Speaker 14>because of course they were all being spoon fared all

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<v Speaker 14>the way through this campaign, all being spoon fed about

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 14>fifty to fifty, all being spoon fed about oh ten

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<v Speaker 14>percent of independence and late decider is just garbage, right

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<v Speaker 14>that they knew that would be uncritically reported on the air.

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<v Speaker 14>But yeah, so Biden will officially speak today. He's obviously

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<v Speaker 14>going to walk away when people start to ask questions,

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<v Speaker 14>but pay attention because the next couple of days we're

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<v Speaker 14>going to start to really see that the campaign of

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<v Speaker 14>Joey was not behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>No, one hundred percent. And you could see it in

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris's face today and obviously she's going to be disappointed,

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 2>but it was beyond it was shattered, you know, clearly

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<v Speaker 2>such a shark. And again we're seeing that in the

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<v Speaker 2>leaks coming out to CNN. Report is just that shock

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<v Speaker 2>that they didn't win. And you know what's so amazing

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<v Speaker 2>is that there's this surprise that American voters actually cared

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<v Speaker 2>about issues like inflation and immigration more than a fear

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<v Speaker 2>campaign about Donald Trump's character. I mean, this is just

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<v Speaker 2>a massive misunderstanding of regular families, isn't it, Paul.

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<v Speaker 8>Well one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 14>And also it's a bit of an insight, and it

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<v Speaker 14>can happen to politicians on all of the spectrum, but

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<v Speaker 14>it is a particular feature of a certain type of

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<v Speaker 14>politician that we have right now on the let's be

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<v Speaker 14>polite and say center left, but most likely further out

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<v Speaker 14>to the left. It's what we see in and around

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<v Speaker 14>the people around elbow right, which is never admit a mistake,

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<v Speaker 14>just never admit a mistake. But obviously, sir, you know

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<v Speaker 14>the building behind you is on fire. No, no, no

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<v Speaker 14>peaceful protests.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 14>This sort of Jedi mind trick stuff that they think

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<v Speaker 14>that their incredible political science and all the rest of

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<v Speaker 14>it means that they can somehow get you to believe,

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<v Speaker 14>to not believe your eyes. And a perfect example of that,

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<v Speaker 14>we say, let's go back to let's go back to

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 14>when Biden is clearly you know, the computer ain't connected anymore,

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 14>and you can start to see sort of, you know,

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 14>those pupils getting bigger and bigger. Oh that's a cheap fake.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, that's a made up word. They literally made

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<v Speaker 14>up words to distract from the reality of what was happening.

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<v Speaker 14>And I think as well that that part of the

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<v Speaker 14>part of the problem for Harris was Okay, let's let's

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<v Speaker 14>imagine that you and I are in the same scenario. Okay,

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<v Speaker 14>now you know you've been my vice president and I'm

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 14>turning around and clearly I can't do the job. But

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<v Speaker 14>imagine that we've been friends for four years, so much

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<v Speaker 14>so that you're the vice president. Well, I would say

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 14>to you, look, mate, I get it, do whatever you can,

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<v Speaker 14>throw me under the bus. I just want you to win.

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 14>But clearly that conversation never took place, and I think

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<v Speaker 14>that's because there was a very poor relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>Between these two.

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<v Speaker 14>Remember ninety plus per cent of her staff walked out

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<v Speaker 14>of her office. So you know, again, when you lose,

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 14>everything that anyone's ever said that's bad about you is true,

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 14>and when you win, everyone's a genius and every little thing.

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<v Speaker 14>But I think today's story is this peak behind the

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<v Speaker 14>curtain at at how chaotic things were, and surprise, surprise,

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.399
<v Speaker 14>the American voters could just see straight through it. They

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 14>know they were being BS two, and they know that

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<v Speaker 14>there was this performance of this happy, go lucky person

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<v Speaker 14>who the second they got the worst possible news of

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<v Speaker 14>losing an election said to tens of thousands of people

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<v Speaker 14>who turned up, bugger off, I'll see it tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, And just the lack of substance. And really,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Brett Bayer was the biggest journalistic star of

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 2>this campaign because he was the only person who did

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 2>a proper interview. Paul, by the way, I loved your

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>idea of us being president and VP. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 2>if we were in charge of the world. I'm actually glad,

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<v Speaker 2>actually glad we're not.

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<v Speaker 14>Can you imagine? Can you imagine that sand you can

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<v Speaker 14>hear is the media writers of the Guardians heads exploding

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<v Speaker 14>it any suggestion on it.

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<v Speaker 2>My number one thing would be helping Israel blow up

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Iran's nuclear site. So yeah, everyone wants to from the

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<v Speaker 2>White House.

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<v Speaker 8>Look at you already dreaming of having the button.

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<v Speaker 14>It was a metaphor to tell a story, and you're

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:22.280
<v Speaker 14>playing out it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>God love you. I will serve the pleasure of the president.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you were the president and I was your

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<v Speaker 2>VP In that scenario. But anyway, Paul, you've got but.

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<v Speaker 14>Then I was too old and then you replaced me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, exactly, Paul. We're going to have more of your

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<v Speaker 2>fun and sharp analysis at nine o'clock tonight. Again, your

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 2>coverage has been just sensational. No one can miss it. Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. We'll see you at nine. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you do Now still to come Turnbulls warning to alban

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<v Speaker 2>Easy about Trump and how the ABC was devastated with

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's when all of this and more after this quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back. Well, the ABC is meant to be impartial,

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<v Speaker 2>but it has a poor record when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>well virtually every topic, and its coverage of the US

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<v Speaker 2>election has been no different. My colleague Chris Kenny did

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<v Speaker 2>a brilliant job tonight in his editorial exposing ABC bias.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a little bit of what he had to say tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and he played a grab from John Lyons, a well

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<v Speaker 2>known critic of Israel.

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<v Speaker 20>He's very much building a campaign based on fear. It's

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.879
<v Speaker 20>fear of the enemy within, its fear of so called

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 20>Venezuelan gangs who are with military grade weapons. It's fear

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 20>of you know, this country being swamped. It's fear of

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<v Speaker 20>the future versus Kamala Harris is very much building something

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<v Speaker 20>looking at the future and hope. And so, to almost

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<v Speaker 20>use a pun, the question is will will fear Trump

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<v Speaker 20>hope fear versus hope?

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<v Speaker 4>Listen to him?

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<v Speaker 1>What planet is he on your text?

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars sent that blog to Washington. And furthermore, it was

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<v Speaker 2>actually Trump who was giving families hope for their future,

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<v Speaker 2>while Kamala Harris was instilling fear about who she called

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<v Speaker 2>a fascist Republican leader and the end of democracy and

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<v Speaker 2>basically the end of days should Trump win. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, if you missed Chris's show at five o'clock today,

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<v Speaker 2>you have got to go back and watch the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of that editorial on the media bias, because John Lyons

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<v Speaker 2>did then go on to say how Trump's win would

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<v Speaker 2>be devastating for Palestinians and for Lebanese people, whereas, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>as Chris pointed out, Trump's win is the best chance

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<v Speaker 2>for regional peace, peace through strength, not through constant demands

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<v Speaker 2>of a ceasefire, not through ultimatums, not through threatening not

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<v Speaker 2>to send in a weapons and all the while giving

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<v Speaker 2>billillions of dollars to Iran, which inevitably funds terrorism. To discuss,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's bring in now, former defense intelligence analyst Paul Monk

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<v Speaker 2>and senior fellow at the Menzies Research Center, Nick Cater.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul and Nick. Wonderful to see you both. Nick. That

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<v Speaker 2>sort of commentary from the ABC is atrocious, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, saying that Americans had a choice between fear

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<v Speaker 2>and hope when seventy two zero point six million people

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<v Speaker 2>voted for Trump. I mean, how is that impartial?

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<v Speaker 21>Is that really the best signs could do? I mean,

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<v Speaker 21>it's such a cliche, isn't it. What does he actually

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<v Speaker 21>mean fear and hope? It's just as you say, it's atrocious.

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<v Speaker 21>It's what we come to expect from this particular bloke,

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<v Speaker 21>John Lyons. I mean, you saw, you've seen his coverage

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<v Speaker 21>out of the Middle East, and how biased that it

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<v Speaker 21>is really towards the Palestinians and towards the Muslim Cause.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really terrible.

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<v Speaker 21>The job is done there, and thank goodness you you

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<v Speaker 21>and over and did more in a week over there

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<v Speaker 21>to correct the balance than he'd done in all the

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<v Speaker 21>time he's spent there. I think it's enormously disappointing. It

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<v Speaker 21>does go to show those showing that this US election

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<v Speaker 21>touched a lot of nerves around the world, amongst people

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<v Speaker 21>of shall we say, our woke disposition, who are now

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<v Speaker 21>really nervous about this pushback and really insulting about the

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<v Speaker 21>kind of people who vote for Donald Trump. And I

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<v Speaker 21>guess the sort of people that would vote for Nigel

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<v Speaker 21>Farage or even Peter Dunn't for that matter. They hate

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<v Speaker 21>these people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Paul, And how do you read this? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think this is part of a perhaps even a

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<v Speaker 2>global trend to reject this woke elite.

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<v Speaker 4>Will.

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<v Speaker 22>It'd certainly come to the surface strongly in this case.

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<v Speaker 22>And if I may briefly just go back to the

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<v Speaker 22>point that Nick was making, one would have expected of

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<v Speaker 22>a serious national broadcast that the first thing they would

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<v Speaker 22>have said is what an astonishing result.

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<v Speaker 4>We got this wrong? All the polsters got it wrong again.

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<v Speaker 4>How can that be? This is a profound.

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<v Speaker 22>Question for any serious journalist to ask that instead they're

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<v Speaker 22>simply lamenting it and siding with Kamala Harris's really, on

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<v Speaker 22>the face of it, a scandal.

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<v Speaker 4>So that'd be my first observation.

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<v Speaker 22>Secondly, though, I think that it is that you've got

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<v Speaker 22>to say a great demonstration of what democracy is about

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<v Speaker 22>that this can happen. I mean, nobody can say that

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<v Speaker 22>this election was fiddled. It was fair, it was free,

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<v Speaker 22>it was meticulously recorded, and the American people made clear

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<v Speaker 22>they knew very well who Donald Trump was, they'd had

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<v Speaker 22>seen him before his president, and they voted in their

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<v Speaker 22>tens of minutes for him. That should be what's been

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<v Speaker 22>closely analyzed, not disparaged by any serious broadcaster.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I think the personality attacks ultimately didn't work,

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<v Speaker 2>because voters knew who they were getting. You know, there

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<v Speaker 2>were no surprises there. Now let's have a look at

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<v Speaker 2>former Prime Minister Malcolm Turbule. He came out today to

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<v Speaker 2>one alban easy not to suck up to Trump. Have

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<v Speaker 2>a look.

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<v Speaker 13>I stood up to him, stood my ground in kurt

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<v Speaker 13>Is wrath. One is respect, and then got very good

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<v Speaker 13>outcomes for Australia. But that does require some determination and

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<v Speaker 13>you know, some courage perhaps, but you've got to be

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<v Speaker 13>You've got to be forthright, and so that personal relationship

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<v Speaker 13>has got to be one grounded in respect. And what

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<v Speaker 13>Trumps respects is strength. So if you suck up to Trump,

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<v Speaker 13>you'll just get you just have to do more sucking up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure about that, Nick, What do you think

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<v Speaker 2>do you think? I think flattery probably would work a

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<v Speaker 2>genuine respect more than having an argument.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 21>Look, it's a funny way I'm looking at it. Isn't

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 21>it whether you suck up to him or whether you

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 21>show weakness. I just hope that our Prime minister would

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 21>go and represent Australia's interest very strongly. But also I

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<v Speaker 21>think respect the respect the president for what he is.

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<v Speaker 21>He's a man who represents the largest democracy or the

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<v Speaker 21>most largest economy in the world, and the most powerful democracy,

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 21>the greatest force for good of the last century. He

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<v Speaker 21>deserves enormous respect. And what worries me I think about

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<v Speaker 21>Albanesi and at some of the things he said, and

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<v Speaker 21>indeed our ambassador Washington, Kevin Rudas, they haven't been very

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<v Speaker 21>respective towards him.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they need to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul, what do you think is the best way for

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<v Speaker 2>Australia to deal with the new administration.

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<v Speaker 22>It seems to me what the Albanezi government needs to

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<v Speaker 22>do is to demonstrate not by faming and.

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<v Speaker 4>Not by ideological confrontation.

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<v Speaker 22>If that's what meant is that's what Turble means by

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<v Speaker 22>standing up to Trump or being strong, but rather by

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 22>demonstrating indeeds as well as in words, that we are

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<v Speaker 22>in fact a robust ally of the Pax Americana, that

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<v Speaker 22>we see American's role in the world as supremely important.

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<v Speaker 22>We don't regret our seventy years compromised by that alliance,

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<v Speaker 22>and we do see that there are dangerous in the

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<v Speaker 22>world at the moment. We want to stand with the

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 22>US in buttressing that world order.

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<v Speaker 4>That we wouldn't respect. I feel confident in saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Just on a local politics topic, the Albanezy government's going

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<v Speaker 2>to convene a special national Cabinet meeting tomorrow to raise

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<v Speaker 2>the age of social media to sixteen. Have a look.

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<v Speaker 15>The onners will be on social media platforms to demonstrate

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<v Speaker 15>they are taking reasonable steps to prevent access. The owners

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<v Speaker 15>won't be on parents or young people. There will be

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<v Speaker 15>no penalties for users.

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<v Speaker 23>What our approach does helps to achieve a balance between

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<v Speaker 23>minimizing those harms that are caused by young people accessing

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<v Speaker 23>social media while still enabling connection and inclusion.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick most parents will welcome this move, but we still

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the detail on how this is actually going

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<v Speaker 2>to work.

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<v Speaker 21>No, and I think parents have the central role to

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<v Speaker 21>play here, and what the government should be doing is

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<v Speaker 21>pushing the social media companies, particularly Apple and Google, who

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<v Speaker 21>control the apps, to give parents access and control over

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 21>what their children are doing online. This has been lacking

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<v Speaker 21>up to now. Up to now, it's been easier for

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 21>an employer to get control over what his employee is

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.399
<v Speaker 21>doing online than it has been for a parent. This

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 21>has to change, and I think the pressure on big

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 21>tech needs to be to empower parents to take the

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<v Speaker 21>primary role in looking after their children online.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think it's very difficult if you

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<v Speaker 2>leave it up to parents because peer pressure comes into it,

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<v Speaker 2>and no parent wants their child to be left out

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.279
<v Speaker 2>of the social circle. So I think I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>different view on that, Paul. Just another topic related to

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<v Speaker 2>social media. We saw today that Canada took action to

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<v Speaker 2>band TikTok. Australia still hasn't done.

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<v Speaker 4>This, Yes, and it raises fascinating issues.

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<v Speaker 22>And I would have thought that because TikTok is grounded

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<v Speaker 22>in Beijing, because like all Chinese companies, it is penetrated

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 22>by the Communist Party and it's used to pick up

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 22>data about people. We shouldn't be in doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 22>Then it's a problem for the Western democracy. So if

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 22>we're trying to sort out the way in which we're

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:28.280
<v Speaker 22>going to relate to China in commercial terms, we should

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.800
<v Speaker 22>be looking very seriously at that kind of issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, all right, Nick Hater, Paul Monk, really appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your insights. Now still to come. Ray Hardley's shock news

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 2>today that he's leaving the air waves. His voice is

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<v Speaker 2>a huge loss. My thoughts after the break well sad

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 2>news today that Ray Hardley has called time and he's

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 2>more than forty year career. The two GB host announced

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 2>he was leaving his gig live on air this morning.

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<v Speaker 8>My children Dan, Laura, Emma and Sarah have made sacrifices

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:06.280
<v Speaker 8>over the years for me to realize my ambitions. Seven

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 8>years ago I had no grand children. Now I have seven.

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:13.320
<v Speaker 8>I want to spend more time in the company of Avat, Noah, Ella, Lala, Tommy,

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 8>Remi and Miller, along with him, Um and Dad. Over

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 8>three years ago I married the master amating woman, Sophie.

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 8>Forever eighteen years, she's been my colleague. Now she's the

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 8>most supportive, coming, loving wife anyone could ask for, and

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 8>she deserves a break. If I copied in the newspaper

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.440
<v Speaker 8>on other media, she gets more upset than I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Ray's career has been amazing. He actually started out

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 2>as a taxi driver. It was a chance meeting with

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 2>a two UI news director in nineteen eighty that led

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:45.760
<v Speaker 2>to his radio career and since he took over as

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:50.720
<v Speaker 2>breakfast as morning host on two GB, he's unbeaten and unbeatable.

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 2>He's won one hundred and sixty consecutive ratings surveys. He

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 2>was inducted into the Acohol of Fame back in twenty seventeen.

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.799
<v Speaker 2>He's the most awarded broadcaster in the history of the ACRAS.

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 2>But most importantly to me, since October seven, Ray has

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:12.320
<v Speaker 2>been a really strong voice on anti Semitism, an ally

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 2>of the Jewish community. He hasn't been recognized enough for this.

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 2>He didn't do it because it was easy. He did

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 2>it because it was the right thing to do. I've

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 2>personally been so grateful for his support. I don't know

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:26.880
<v Speaker 2>what we're going to do without his strong voice on

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:32.240
<v Speaker 2>these critical issues every single morning. He deserves more credit

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.359
<v Speaker 2>for this. I wish he wasn't leaving Ray Hadley and

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 2>by the way, he's going to be on with Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Murray in a moment. I'll see you all on Monday

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<v Speaker 2>at eight o'clock. Thank you for watching this week. And

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<v Speaker 2>here's Paul