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Speaker 2: Just so. Ah.

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Speaker 3: No, I've got a bit of something on all Is

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Speaker 3: mainly Dad. I've got something on Jack that I'm ready

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Speaker 3: to go with. I've got a bird at home. Would

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Speaker 3: you believe or not?

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Speaker 2: Have you bought one?

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Speaker 3: A lot of Kanya him? Since I lived in Canberra?

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Speaker 3: He's nine years old? Oh really?

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Speaker 2: What you never told me that?

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Speaker 3: The boys think it's the funniest thing ever.

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Speaker 1: That's really weird.

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Speaker 2: They reckon, they reckon people that our own birds like

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Speaker 2: more transmenculars.

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Speaker 3: There's a start ninety five?

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Speaker 2: Isn't ninety five?

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Speaker 1: We're rolling?

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Speaker 2: Are we leaving?

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Speaker 1: This song? So it's a bird called again? Ali has

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Speaker 1: he ever self loathed? Because birds sometimes floathes and will

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Speaker 1: pull their feathers out.

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Speaker 2: No, No, remember, we had a we had a budget

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Speaker 2: in the day, and it grew a tumor. And they said, oh,

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Speaker 2: ate its tumor off it. Yeah, and then it's like

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Speaker 1: Freda fred So had the tumor. So he put a

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Speaker 1: little thing around his neck. Look anyway he was going.

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Speaker 1: He was going berserk because he knew how to cure it.

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Speaker 1: And he bent down and packed the tumor out. Live

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Speaker 1: for another couple of years. And May literally would walk

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Speaker 1: around with the wad of collies and just as were

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Speaker 1: warming to him, he fell off the perch. Literally, how

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Speaker 3: For the goals? He sat sat on it. He's only

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Speaker 3: fifty grams the only time he sat on him. She

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Speaker 3: just fallen straight in his side. He still going. The

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Speaker 3: dog's got him about six months ago. He's elbow, his

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Speaker 3: wrists fused to his shoulder, so he can't fly. Laid

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Speaker 1: Your house, your house, I believe.

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Speaker 2: Let me do a quick introduction for CROs one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty one games, mainly twenty twenty two Best and

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Speaker 2: Fairest aka the roy Bull Medalist lockey Crok aka Croaks

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Speaker 2: Okay the crook well creep, Welcome Croaks, Welcome to the studio. Mate,

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Speaker 2: it's we've been wanting to have you on.

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Speaker 4: For a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've just been so busy, I know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I know, Saint Gorgea you're injured because

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Speaker 2: we were Croas's scheduled. Dad. You've never seen anything like it, mate, Birds, birds,

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Speaker 2: the bees. He does Uni? What do you study at UNI? Again?

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Speaker 3: And the Masters of Teaching?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, because.

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Speaker 2: You're also helped coach you a bit of stuff. We're

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Speaker 2: You head down there and teach them the new want

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Speaker 2: a game for Harold Mattz. Is that right correct? How

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Speaker 2: are those kids? Do they body just love having you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are. They're real good bunch of kids. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you're gone serious with this, but they're No,

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Speaker 3: they're really good bunch of kids. Jordan Meredith down there

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Speaker 2: But well, what's your what are you guys coming at

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Speaker 2: the moment a second, I think, and let me turn Jackson,

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Speaker 4: Ladder some specific Well, boys playing Newcastle this weekend. All right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because apparently that you guys run. You guys won

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Speaker 1: But it is ye, but it's one of the most

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Speaker 1: rewarding things you can do, teaching and coaching the umblog.

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Speaker 1: So I was sitting there last night, I was thinking, like,

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Speaker 2: Would you would you teach pe?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you do you need a master's to teach p?

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Speaker 1: Well, you do gonna be able to communicate delegate all

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Speaker 2: Correct, last night, chrazy, I went.

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Speaker 2: You're a real break up last night made a Chris Stapleton.

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Speaker 2: You're a big country fan. What you thoughts? You love it? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It was real good?

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Speaker 2: How good was it? Matthew? Can I say something near?

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Speaker 2: Matthew say? Me and Croaks were dressed completely had to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a coup resign and we were probably

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Speaker 3: Well, the last of three or four months, we've had

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Speaker 1: Like you fell asleep at that's it.

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Speaker 3: In hindsight, we thankfully we weren't both sober.

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Speaker 2: I'd had a few of them about Croaks was driving,

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Speaker 2: but there wasn't much singing going on. We were more

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Speaker 2: just admiring the music. Croaksu's phone was broken, so his

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Speaker 2: every time a song that you come on one he

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Speaker 2: just tapped me and gaon you can record this for me?

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Speaker 2: Getting drop that to me.

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Speaker 1: See that's the way you're You're saying that Croaks sounds

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Speaker 2: I've got I've got the Locklan Croker birthday t shirt on.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk through yearly there is a Lachlan

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Speaker 2: Croaker birthday party on. And before you and I were mates, Croaks,

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Speaker 2: your first birthday parties. One and only Matthew John's and

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Speaker 2: Jack John's rocked up. I wanted to ask were they

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Speaker 3: There was no invitation?

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Speaker 2: Who told them we can't?

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Speaker 3: Well, we ended up at the Collarid and obviously if

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Speaker 3: you're ever at the Colaroid made he's there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, used to yeah.

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Speaker 2: Your band in your band.

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Speaker 1: They just one night that a bloke took a dislike

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Speaker 1: that's so a masch jender. The next day and said

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Speaker 2: He now drinks at home saves money at least, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well not really because he's beat. He just punts all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I Actually, I actually drink and watch Pogan

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Speaker 1: Machines on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you do. If you go on the TV upstairs.

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Speaker 2: On the YouTube, it's like recently watched and there's just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves that Frankenstein.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Parks instigated it all. Obviously we were I

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Speaker 3: so he picked up made he was stiver going back

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Speaker 3: to my place to have a barbecue. Do you want

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Speaker 3: to come, Maddie and Jack said absolutely. I was only

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Speaker 2: Now it's different.

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Speaker 1: After that afternoon, it was probably yeah, yeah, we've ended up.

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Speaker 3: We went back to my place, had a barbie. My

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Speaker 3: losing his mind. There was about nine of us out

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Speaker 3: We've driven up. Mad He goes, oh, jeez, upping the

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Speaker 3: slums up here, come a long way from the basin.

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Speaker 1: Was it was a joke, It was? It was.

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Speaker 1: For five hours.

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Speaker 3: me a you know, a period or a place on Earth,

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Speaker 3: and I will tell you a story about it. So

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Speaker 3: we got You've got Stalin, Mussolini, in Vade and poland

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Speaker 3: we had everything.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, isn't that what every bloke wants when they're

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Speaker 2: on their birthday with all their mates having beers, and

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Speaker 2: you've just got Maddie John's dribbling about the history of

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Speaker 2: this earth?

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Speaker 1: Aren't you aren't you curious? See, this is the problem

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Speaker 1: I got. I always say that I got a fire

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Speaker 1: that burns in meat croaks, and sometimes I just need

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Speaker 1: a freshet of It is because these guys have heard

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Speaker 1: all the stories. Yea, even ones I don't know. I've

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Speaker 1: told them as I'm sitting there drinking watching poke machines.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you love it. What I will say is that

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Speaker 2: croaks your birth like your birthday party is turning into one.

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Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite days of the year. It's

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Speaker 2: an amazing it is an amazing time. I reckon it's

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Speaker 2: I went to your it was mine the year after

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Speaker 2: and I went to you after yeah, and I reckon

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Speaker 2: i'd met you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I remember Jakie Charuvich was like, right, no, kops,

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Speaker 1: That's Jake Trovovich for you, Like you know what a grab.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say Jake is a rabbi league, nice guy, jeezy.

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Speaker 2: Can he can drink?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 2: I would look at that head, Yeah, he can push

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Speaker 2: where Turbo comes back with like twenty drinks. Jake does

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Speaker 1: We've seen the old men, Big John. Yeah, something tells

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Speaker 1: the golf trips you blows gone. I remember her bloke's

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that? Is it? Silly yearly thing at Mainly

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Speaker 2: In my head I was the best, But when everybody

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Speaker 3: There was a choke hold at one stage, wasn't.

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Speaker 2: There There was a choke hold at one stage? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then and he said I'm going to knock you out.

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Speaker 1: But it was not much as a thread off soon,

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Speaker 1: to that cameras, aren't your Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you say it was what we thought it was.

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Speaker 3: I knew it was going to be big. It was

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Speaker 2: God, yeah, it was sickening.

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Speaker 1: You KNOWLA didn't get the facts.

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Speaker 2: No, you know what leading up, Bennie Hogar's dad producer said, Tom, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know what we might do. We might we might

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Speaker 2: like for footage and he was like, yes, sweet and

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Speaker 2: after that one hit it was like and Benny was like,

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Speaker 2: we don't need any more. Like it was, I thought

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Speaker 1: When it was like the bloke he showed the most

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Speaker 1: said made you okay? And then Leon come through. Yeah

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Speaker 2: He was in a bad apparently for a few days.

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Speaker 3: To imagine feeling that for the first time ever. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, true, because I suppose like it's like when you

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Speaker 1: Well, I said to Leon straight after it, I said,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what they say. And he's a

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't do. You can see on the slow mo

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Speaker 2: literally as Homol hits him. I think his head hits

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Speaker 1: He's got that week last well, the genesis was because

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Speaker 1: He came out with this fooly statement that he said,

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Speaker 1: there is no way. It's so much tougher than it

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Speaker 2: Just yeah, how many of the boys you reckon if

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Speaker 3: Not like that, not like that, but like and also

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Speaker 1: And HAMI to a reputation. You have to protect a reputation.

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Speaker 1: Like if he'd got there and sort of hit Leon

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Speaker 2: Did you want to say something?

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Speaker 4: Just get mister masters of teaching? Could I just get

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Speaker 4: to your mouth?

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Speaker 3: Oh? That's the next thing, is the next subject we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Cooper is supposed to be having eyes on that.

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Speaker 4: He's just he's too locked in on these golf trip stories.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, I like to I like to talk

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Speaker 3: Do they want me nostril over the top of it?

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Speaker 2: No, it's professional. Yeah, you all the time we get

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Speaker 1: No, I can't.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever thought about having that surgery?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't like needles, but you don't need needless.

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Speaker 1: To knock out you do? I have like I only

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Actually that the tipping point become when one day my

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Speaker 2: I can imagine because you're supposed to have a knee.

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Speaker 1: But it continues to give to the game, but mainly

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Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm excited. We we still got a bit

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Speaker 3: very good obviously turbo chairs Brooksy, it's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you both are a good spine. It's good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's good. Almost you get it in the competition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when are you back five?

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Speaker 3: Round four or five?

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Speaker 2: I reckon round four or five because you did your miniscus.

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Speaker 3: Yep, miniscus for Christmas?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you have you did you have you trained

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Speaker 2: much on field with the boys, not at all, not

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Speaker 2: the whole preseason. Well, you're obviously around most of the

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Speaker 2: team meetings and that what's because the knock even when

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Speaker 2: I was there at mainly is always like our best

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Speaker 3: We obviously, like you speak about playing the top four,

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Speaker 3: and it's obviously very hard to win a competition outside

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Speaker 3: we need to finish the year. But I think for

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Speaker 3: us to get there, we need to be a lot

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Speaker 3: better defensively the way that we attack and the way

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Speaker 3: that we play the game. When things are perfect for us,

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Speaker 3: we're very good. As soon as you have one or

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Speaker 3: still got a lot of room to grow in that

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00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,159
Speaker 3: in that department, and obviously we spent a lot of

441
00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,760
Speaker 3: time working on it. The boys are working really hard

442
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 3: on it, and every team's winning the camp in November December,

443
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,119
Speaker 3: and once bullets start flying around come around one, you

444
00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,479
Speaker 3: find out where you're adding. That's where we're at. We've

445
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,400
Speaker 3: done the work and we're ready to go and see

446
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:31,679
Speaker 3: where the.

447
00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,000
Speaker 1: Leaves to you. How many times Lachlan off Sen, youw

448
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,560
Speaker 1: blakes Whenever I think of you talk about a certain side,

449
00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,800
Speaker 1: I get an image of that site and for Manly,

450
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,359
Speaker 1: it's few blakes starting the game in the first twenty

451
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,440
Speaker 1: five minutes, just rolling forward, playing a bit of sideline

452
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,440
Speaker 1: to sideline, just nailing everything, and me watching game. These

453
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,440
Speaker 1: blokes are only get to be by thirty points invariably

454
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,360
Speaker 1: as fatigue starts to set in. You continue to try

455
00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,600
Speaker 1: to play that style of football and you just have

456
00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,439
Speaker 1: trouble defending your errors. The attack puts so much pressure

457
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,520
Speaker 1: on the defense. But here I am telling you about

458
00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,840
Speaker 1: the team. Tell me shut out.

459
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though, Like I don't think I've

460
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,600
Speaker 2: seen a side in the NRL that it's like when

461
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 2: the boys play at me at Brookie Oval, at the

462
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 2: Fortress like it's it's like a completely different side day,

463
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,639
Speaker 2: like from when you play away or you come and

464
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,880
Speaker 2: play at Brookie. I've never seen a side be able

465
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 2: to feed off a homeground advantage like it.

466
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 3: The home crowds that we get there unbelievable and that

467
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,359
Speaker 3: heel aspect and the sort of local league feel that

468
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,920
Speaker 3: you get is second to none. And you can see

469
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 3: the way that we started games last year and obviously

470
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,160
Speaker 3: some of the shots at himale and so the guys

471
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,119
Speaker 3: like Josh Allaway and those guys are putting on it's

472
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,959
Speaker 3: to be in there next to it. It's unbelievable and

473
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 3: yourself made.

474
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 2: They feel free not to you know, you're.

475
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,919
Speaker 1: Playing Melbourne that night. I sit behind the post and

476
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 1: your dad was there. I think it's called opening try.

477
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: But may watching how you blokes her up, you can

478
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,959
Speaker 1: almost tell from the first set how physically forwards are

479
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 1: to go right there really on. But it's talking about tempo.

480
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,199
Speaker 1: Tempo of a game, not ballplayer, but tempo in a

481
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 1: game when you can start a million miles an now,

482
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 1: but you've got to have brakes, you pull them on.

483
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,160
Speaker 1: And you can see in other champion sides in other sports,

484
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 1: like a Barcelona, some of the greatest players in the world.

485
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 1: We're messing and and i'd do now there they're going

486
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 1: to million miles now, but they're able to consolidate. Then

487
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 1: they sit back and they just push it amongst the

488
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,919
Speaker 1: back through take their time, you know, basically can dissolidate

489
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 1: their lead or their advantage. Then they go again. It's

490
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 1: funny watching rugular league sides. Very few sides have a

491
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,479
Speaker 1: handbrake or know how to control the tempo. You know

492
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 1: how to slow things down. Here I am again just

493
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 1: going over crazy. Take it to Sup with you.

494
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 3: It's funny that you mentioned that because the way that

495
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 3: a lot of us defenders sort of up and under

496
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 3: the ball, and a lot of intent tacklers are try

497
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 3: and sort of hit and drive and hurt people, where

498
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 3: some teams more absorbed in the contact and then wrestle

499
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 3: you on the ground for ages and a lot of

500
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 3: our rock control is something that we work really hard

501
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 3: on because we can be a lot better at it

502
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: because of how we tackle. So there's like being at

503
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 3: mainly at Brookie and guys trying to kill other opposition.

504
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: It's sort of a double sword. If they end up

505
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: getting half a quick play the ball. Our rough control

506
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 3: is not where it needs to be to be able

507
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 3: to defend the next tackle the way that we want to.

508
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, there they hit the ground and bounce up.

509
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: It's funny that, yeah it is. Was that from Dez?

510
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 2: You think? Was that a Dez hazard? I think because

511
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 2: he was less wrestle and more intent right.

512
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of Desi stuff was he only wanted

513
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 3: two men in the tackle, so then we'd have eleven

514
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: or ten in our line, whereas a lot of other

515
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 3: teams we're trying and get three and have a slow

516
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 3: third man out and then the next line will go

517
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 3: without the third man. But Desi was all about having

518
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: his sort of mini line ab either side of the

519
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: ruck set, and a lot of us were there when

520
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 3: Desi was there, and it's obviously a hard Yeah.

521
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's a good thing that if you can still

522
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: use use it, but then implement the wrestling style like

523
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: you got, you've got the best of both words a

524
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 2: little bit, because you still sometimes can end up in

525
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 2: two men tackles and you guys probably have an advantage

526
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 2: on that. I remember when I was, oh mate, I

527
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: thought about it. It's too funny, I thought when I

528
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: was sorry brother. When I was at Melbourne, I remember

529
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: when we were doing footage on Manly and obviously Dez

530
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 2: was the coach at the time. This is a little

531
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 2: wrap on yourself. I remember the first game of the year,

532
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: they were like there was a lot of heavy hitters

533
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 2: in the middle and Billiack was doing video on you

534
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: and was like, right out here we go, Lockland Croker

535
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: and I've been at your birthday of the year before.

536
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: I wonder were going to say about it. I think

537
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 2: I've told you before and belly A goes, he goes,

538
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: let me tell you something, right, they got a big pack.

539
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: There's a lot of blokes that you don't want to

540
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: run at. He said, You're probably instinct is when you

541
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: get the footy on fatigue to single out Lochland Croker.

542
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 2: He goes, I'll tell you right now, if you run

543
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: at Lochland Croker, you want to run hard because this

544
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 2: bloke can bloody whack. And he was just showed like

545
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: a ten minute highlights of Crokes, just absolutely ironing blokes

546
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: out for like ten.

547
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: Your Billy K's style of play. If you look at

548
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: Billy Ak's favorite players of all time Hingecliff Dallas, Johnson,

549
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: Dale fanukan guys here who really punch above their weight

550
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: and he's down from around he's an obor on boy

551
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: down around that way.

552
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a.

553
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: Little bit of bias there as well. What are they

554
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: growing up there crook Well? How many people in Crookwell?

555
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: Because Jack's partners from Crookwell.

556
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: She is, there's about twenty five hundred, or when I

557
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: was there is about twenty five hundred. So she's grown

558
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: a little bit but she's pretty quiet.

559
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: What's it mainly dairy farms.

560
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 3: It's more not a lot of dairy farming, a lot

561
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 3: of sheep cattle. I'm not sure if there's a lot

562
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 3: of wheat stuff out there.

563
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: Old man's a sheep farmer, right, he's this yere.

564
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: He's dropped out of school to be a year in

565
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: year ten. Yeah, then sure for her along was and

566
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: it ended up having to go back to finish high

567
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: school and then going to the cops.

568
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: Copper as well.

569
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: He's a cop now, yeah, so shit treating fine?

570
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well on speak croaks nearly lost his license. Actually,

571
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: just while we're on that, this crooks right here, I

572
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: remember you telling me a story about your old man

573
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: when he was a sheep shearer. Did you used to

574
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: do like twenty four hour days or yeah?

575
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: He's a lunatic to people. Yeah, he was a tough

576
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 3: old bar city. He started out in Mosvow, which is

577
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: about an hour and a half from home. It would

578
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: work night shift all night, drive an hour and a

579
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: half home. Then he goes straight in this year in

580
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: the next day animal. Yeah, he's nuts. And then most

581
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: of my child was him making me up the five

582
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: point thirty on a Saturday saying I need your help,

583
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: can you come sharing with me? And I used to

584
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: pretend I was leaving. He couldn't wake me up. I

585
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 3: used to bring mates out to my place, knowing that

586
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: he would wake me up the next day. Oh to

587
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: go here, and so I had someone to drag along

588
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 3: with me? Hard?

589
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 2: How hard is.

590
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: It in this modern age? There's not enough respect for

591
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: people like that. I just listened to Joe Rogan with

592
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: Bill Murray. Bill Murray was talking about when you know

593
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: he sort of came through and he was in his

594
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: mid twenties in the seventies and then into the early eighties.

595
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: He said there was diminishing respect for older people then.

596
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: And Bill Murray's just say, hang on a second, right,

597
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: and they's just the little stiff. They're conservative, he said,

598
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: hang on a second. These people are gone through a

599
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: world war, you know a little bit of respect. It's

600
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: very easy to sit there as an influence influencer and

601
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: look at a dairy farmer. They have no respect for

602
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: what those people go through and how tough they are

603
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: and what they have to endure.

604
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 2: Is how difficult is I've never tried you try to

605
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 2: shear a sheep before that how actual hard is it?

606
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so it's that hard to put in a word.

607
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: You just need to spend a day out there and

608
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 3: see what they do. And like a lot of the

609
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: guys that you're doing two unders sheep, like the younger,

610
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: real good guys are doing two undersheap a day and

611
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 3: they're like the weight that they're lifting up in every

612
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 3: sheep and dragging them out and then manhandling the thing.

613
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 2: Is that what the hardest part is just trying to

614
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: and you've been you've been over the whole time.

615
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: You're saying you're probably changes from age guys, but like

616
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: two minutes ish to shear a sheep, and obviously you've

617
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: been over the whole time. And you're doing that from

618
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: six in the morning till four in the afternoon, and

619
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: then you control over one hand and four hundred DERs

620
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 3: that night and then doing it again the next day.

621
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how long did it take you to do it?

622
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: When you did it, I couldn't do it. You couldn't

623
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: finish because there's an art form, there's a rhythm or

624
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: a certain way to do it. I had no idea.

625
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: I'll get the sheep. The sheep's fighting against you and

626
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: you're trying to hold one hand and it was so awkward.

627
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it.

628
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: Is that there's not a way of like this might

629
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: be like a little bit of a question for animal cruelty, right,

630
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: there's no way not doing it when it's asleep or like.

631
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: Oh well, if it was drunk, maybe because someone it's like,

632
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 1: you know, you're asleep in the middle of the night.

633
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: If well, if you're drunk, maybe someone will shave your head.

634
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: If you're just laying in the middle of the night

635
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: having having a sweet dream. If someone walks in and

636
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: suddenly starts shaving your head, it's fear. It's probably a

637
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: fair chances you're going to wake up. You don't wake up,

638
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: and you will struggle if you don't know them either.

639
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't think the sheep and the farmers are on

640
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: first name basis.

641
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: Did you play with Croaks's uncle Jason.

642
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: Kroger played against a lot Yeah, strong, yeah, strongest man.

643
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: I think if you look at the strongest place that

644
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: ever played the game, go way back, there would not

645
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: be anyone stronger than Jason Croker, scary strong. We had

646
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: a night out one night in Camber and he did

647
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: his party trick Laury Ally Guess co On Cracks, Toots

648
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: show us the treek and I'm standing about to watch.

649
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: It was circus so lay stuff. But Croach was one

650
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: hundred and five kilos and just grabbed to give way

651
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: sign and held himself like horizontal, horizontal straight out like that.

652
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: It was like literally it was circuso lay. But a

653
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: bloke who was one hundred and five kilos was his

654
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: front outside backs half mate. Kept the thickest four arms

655
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: ever and he just made he was Laurry went through

656
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: a stint that they're incredibly successful season nineteen ninety four.

657
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: Laurry was out for a stint in the middle of

658
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: the year until it's played five eight. He was a

659
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: nightmare to play against. He was just so strong and

660
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: he was quick too. Did you very much to do them?

661
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: Growing up, I watched I don't know how many times

662
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: I sat in Campistadium freezing watching him play. I remember

663
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: watching his last game and Dad was so proud of

664
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: him and the career that he had. And Dad he

665
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: used to tape his games on the old VCRs and

666
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 3: Dad's walking road back home was there would have been

667
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: two hundred tapes in the bottom of the cupboard, and

668
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 3: Dad took me over there every game, every home game

669
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: to watch him and some of the great memories of

670
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 3: watching those guys and then listen to guys like Andy

671
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: Raymond that used to call those games back in those days,

672
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 3: and yeah, there's a really cool sort of thing to

673
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: look back on. And then I got to play with

674
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: him at the Nines when I was in camera.

675
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

676
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: Right, so when I was nineteen.

677
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: I think play where was that in awkward?

678
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 3: That was Awkland?

679
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, so he was the the sort of

680
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: veteran player that would come back.

681
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about that because they had Remember Freddie

682
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: Fittler played, was it in the same one?

683
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: I think he was here before.

684
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, A great story about Toots. So they went away

685
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: for the World Cup Tour in two thousand and about

686
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: halfway through the trip, you on those kangaroo tools, you'll

687
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: break away, so there'll be a five day gap and

688
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: you're some blakes will go to Dublin, Spain or whatever.

689
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: Half the crew went to Barcelona, the other half went

690
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: to Ublin. And the Dublin crew were blokes like there

691
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: was Joey who's been Kennedy and a few other blokes

692
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: and Tuts. So it's one morning and I'm sort of

693
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: just at home and a call it's Joey's numbering, Hey, mate,

694
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: what's going on? And it's Toots and he said, Mate,

695
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, Mate, I'm holding your brother around

696
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: with one hand calling he's going berserk. He's having a

697
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: panic attack as he's so far from home and he's

698
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: just acting like a peanut. And I could hear Joe

699
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: He's going, you want to go home? Having he has

700
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: these anxiety attacks when he's away from home and Mate,

701
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: into its his gun, No worry, I look after him.

702
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: What should I say to him? Just I don't know,

703
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: just telling me everything be okay, made, everything's going to

704
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: be okay.

705
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: It's not going to be okay. But is that easy?

706
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: Always been on that or something a little.

707
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Bit like you talked to Brian and those blokes and

708
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Phil Bales. You know, there's a couple of times in

709
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: retirement that he went over and had a stint overseas

710
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: with them, like a week or so, and now he

711
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: was just like he just go man, his homebody. Yeah,

712
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: he's like you know with the Vegas last week. He

713
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: doesn't go over, he doesn't, he doesn't he's a homebody.

714
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 2: Because he couldn't get a visa or anything like that.

715
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: No, no, that surely, but that's just what Joey's like.

716
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and then your cousins with of course Millie

717
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: Boyle and Morgan boil Well, Milly Elliott, now that's a

718
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: great name, just quietly Milliy Elliott.

719
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: Of course, after Billy Elliott.

720
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: You've seen that movie I was seeking Billy Elliott. Have

721
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: you never seen that movie? The tap Dancing Kid? And

722
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: he his dad doesn't want him in the northern of

723
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: England's dad doesn't want him to become a tap dancer.

724
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: And he's like, I just want to dance at the

725
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: Balllet's move mate.

726
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh Billy, what are you doing? Did you get a

727
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: soccer ball? I just want to dance?

728
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, you gotta do what man box or

729
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: play rugby? You know they don't dance at the ball

730
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: let you never seen it.

731
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: I don't need to see it now, boiler spoiler alert.

732
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: He can dance.

733
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: Head much to do with him. Obviously you played with

734
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: Morgan right like you played with Boiley. But did you

735
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: grow up with them, like well.

736
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: Really no, so they were pretty much Shelley his mum

737
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: was with David Boyle, who played with Toots, and they

738
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: lived down sort of far south coast, so our whole family,

739
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: the rest of the family is pretty much in Crookle

740
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: and Twots was in Cambra, which is only about an

741
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: hour away from where we were, and that was we

742
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: didn't see a whole lot of them because it was

743
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: so far away. Mainly just Christmas every couple of years.

744
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: But no, I guess not really ended up living with

745
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: Boiley when we played Twenties in Camera together and then

746
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: he ended up following me to merely so had a

747
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: few years with him.

748
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: He too, how's living with Boiley? Because those that don't

749
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: know all good Boyle he he Boyle's best in small

750
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: doses like a boil. It's like extremely small dose. It's

751
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: like ten minutes in a day. Why because he's you

752
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: tell it, You tell him, he's like he can just

753
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: some days you get in there and Boyle's you know,

754
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: he's real calm and he's awesome. And then some days

755
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: he is in there and he's just flat out in

756
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: ye like he's got adhd or something mate, like he's

757
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: he just gets in he just relentlessly.

758
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: He's got all the letters he'll just he'll.

759
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: Punish up relentlessly, like he'll just go after He'll be like,

760
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: what are you wearing that shirt for Matti and you're

761
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: just can go up to you and slap me on

762
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: the back of the head and ship like he he

763
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: can pasty your hard.

764
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry sorry.

765
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: He's one of those blokes. If you need something done,

766
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: you go to him. So can you do this? And

767
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 3: you'll have no idea what to do, Bud, You go, yeah,

768
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: I can do.

769
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: That to kill someone or something someone in the cornyard,

770
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: cornfield crook will back in crook.

771
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: Well, all right, your Raiders career.

772
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: One second before we go further. We're talking at Canberra Boys.

773
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: It's really interesting. So we're talking about the Boils and

774
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: the Croakers there, but you got the Heatherington's and the Mullins.

775
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: Let's fine, this amazing. So Brett Heatherington is married to

776
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: Brett Mullins's sister, and Brett Mullins is married to Brett

777
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: Heatherington's sister, and they just all sort of cross over.

778
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: And then he got to Jack played with So I

779
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: was up at Newcastle and I had in the same

780
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 4: year we had Adam Elliott, who's now married to Millie Boyle.

781
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: We had Jack Heatherington and then no relation. But we

782
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: had Matthew Croker up at Newcastle as well. But when

783
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: ads he rocked up to Newcastle, he'd refer to matt

784
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 4: Croker as Toots. So then now that he brought into

785
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 4: the family, Maddie Croker now only refers to.

786
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: Adam Elliott's tot. So all you hear at Newcastles everyone.

787
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: Called each other.

788
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, where does that? Where's nickname twots come from?

789
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: I got a boney picked Maddy about that too.

790
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: Maddie Croker, Why he can't say that name? They keep

791
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: their bloodline thick down there, Yeah you can't. So where

792
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: does that nickname come from? That?

793
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

794
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: Does it just come from then?

795
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: Used to the story I heard was Twitts loves having

796
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: when he was a kid, used to love having his

797
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: feet washed.

798
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: So it's Jesus, Jesus he I think he did. He

799
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: did John the Baptist to show humility.

800
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 2: Do you wash his feet or wash his shoes? Wash?

801
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: Wash his feet? Just John the Baptist Jesus is And

802
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: there I'm comparing to Baptist. Well, it's a lot like

803
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: he's torn a few heads off in the Yeah yeah,

804
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: John the Baptist was to be headed. Yeah again more

805
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: fun facts exactly Kurk Baptists?

806
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: Did you play?

807
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: I played with him as well the Sunshow Coast Falcons.

808
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Kurk Baptiste from. He's also from

809
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: P and G descent. Just silent, silent, dirt Bay. After

810
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: a few beers.

811
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: I didn't know you're going to say dirt Bay, but

812
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 3: a silent man. I was with him for three years

813
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: and I reckon. I heard him say four words.

814
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah until you until you give him two drops of alcohol,

815
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: and it's like he's It's like he swallows a dictionary

816
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: with it. He did, said just all these words and

817
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: stories start coming out. And I didn't even know what

818
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: his voice sounded like until he had two beers dead.

819
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: Said that makes me feel a lot better. I saw

820
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: him at a hotel one day in Melbourne by playing

821
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: the Storm and him said he was his first year

822
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: and said, heard how you doing. I said, I'm really mate,

823
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: good on you. I'll be watching you your debut, Susan,

824
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: You're going really really good, and he just blanked me yeah,

825
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, Okay, did I say something

826
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: about him some week.

827
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I played with him for six rounds before

828
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: I literally heard him say a word to me. All right,

829
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: what about Raiders, because you made your debut down at

830
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: the Camber Raiders twenty sixteen, Yeah, twenty sixteen. What was

831
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 2: it like down there?

832
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: When I was there? It was the best thing ever? Yeah,

833
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: I could have lived there for the rest of my life.

834
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: But upon moving to Sydney then realizing there's more to

835
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: more to life than canber and being sort of that

836
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 3: sort of quite a lifestyle, big sort of big country

837
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: city type style. Was it's that really really well with

838
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: me back then? But now I don't know if I've

839
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: got any meaning.

840
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: What were the circumstance because your debut that you only

841
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: played one game? I think it was what and then

842
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: before moving back? What were the circumstances? Like, I'm not

843
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: setting up for thing or anything loaded question, but was

844
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: it like because you were a bit of a boom junior,

845
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 2: like you play under eighteen's Origin under twenties Origin five eight,

846
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: big raps coming through, then you played one first rate game.

847
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: Why did Canberra? What happened?

848
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 3: That's a good question, man, I don't so. I played

849
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: the round two game of twenty sixteen, Blake Austin eight

850
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 3: and Cas were the starting halves there at the time,

851
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: and they were both out for a considerable amount of time,

852
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: and it was myself and Semi Wims playing at the time,

853
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: And originally I was supposed to get sort of the

854
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 3: next two or three games because of the long sort

855
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 3: of long term injury to those guys, and ended up

856
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: getting halfway through that game and sublucks in my shoulder.

857
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: I had a reco the year before, and I just

858
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 3: come back sublucks my shoulder, and in my head, sublucks

859
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: in my shoulder felt like a dislocation. So I've come

860
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 3: off the field pretty much in tears, thinking my years

861
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: over again. Ended up going inside getting everything tested, and

862
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: I was still strong and ready to play, so I

863
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: went back on to the bench of the second half

864
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 3: and was going to go back on that didn't eventuate

865
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: that way. We ended up winning buy one and sort

866
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: of the next week went into talk to Sticky and

867
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: find out what where the rest of the week and

868
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: season looked like for me, and basically just said, you

869
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: can play, you can play a cup, or you can

870
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: have the week off. And I in my head, I'm going, oh,

871
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: I'm not a kid. I'm not having a week off

872
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 3: for nothing, so I'll just play Cup. And I don't

873
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: know if that ended up hurting me maybe in the

874
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: long run, but I never played, and I again played

875
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: the rest of that year in Cup, and then played

876
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: the following year in Cup as well, and nothing eventuated

877
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: down there, and obviously found myself in Sydney the year

878
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: after that.

879
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: I remember it come to Sydney, Lachlan and you came

880
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: here and Trent Barrett was coaching at the time, and

881
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: the belief at the time they had a difficult season

882
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: the year before and everyone was saying, okay, we just

883
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: want dully true evidence to just float around. I play

884
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: second Banana, Lachland is your side. I remember thinking myself,

885
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: this is hugely unfair. That was a lot of pressure

886
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: out in new club, played alongside you know, the the

887
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: bloke had just broken the state of in football and

888
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: being told mate, he likes it, just you have free

889
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: will at your side. How was that? Do you feel

890
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure.

891
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: To be honest, not really, I was just in my head.

892
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: Two months before that, I was going to Q Cup

893
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: and I was going to battle my way for another

894
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: contract and maybe find a way back into an NRL

895
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 3: team again, so just to be there, I was stoked.

896
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, leaning into that that season and chairs obviously

897
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: playing such a flamboyant, carefree style of footing. There were

898
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 3: sort of two or three training sessions throughout that preseason

899
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: where I was the only one that was allowed to talk,

900
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: so that would we would do.

901
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: Weed to do a similar drill like that.

902
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're just getting to know these places as

903
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: well and getting to know the system. That's that's that's difficult.

904
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah it was, but Chas has just got such a

905
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: way with people, and I felt really comfortable around him,

906
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: and like he had felt like he had so much

907
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: confidence in me when he probably shouldn't have. And that

908
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: year went the way it was, and then towards the

909
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: back end of the year after I started realizing that

910
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: maybe I'm not that good at this and thankfully we

911
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: end up here.

912
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: I've seen that plenty of times, right with halves, because

913
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, the best example I could give you was

914
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: Denny badeiros came has been an Australian schoolboy who played

915
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: in the halves, came to that level in playing lower

916
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: grades and just felt too much responsibility haven't steered aside

917
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: around the park. And it was a game at the

918
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: very end of have been nine ninety eight and we

919
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: had lots of injuries, and Malcolm Riley just said, I'm

920
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: just going to throw this young kid at hooker. See

921
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: where he goes. I remember walking off at halftime looking

922
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: at a Bedsy and going, maybe you were okay.

923
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 4: He was just.

924
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely nailing everything that moved and he'll tell you now,

925
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: going to nine just completely freed him up. He just

926
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: for him. I remembered him for you, Lachlan, effort is nothing.

927
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: Playing tough as nothing. You know that. That's it's all liberating.

928
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and obvious the exact same. I felt like the

929
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: results out of my shoulder. Yeah, well, I couldn't sleep

930
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 3: at night thinking about the way the games are going

931
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: and felt like I had so much responsibility now I

932
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: was letting so many people down around me. And then

933
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: exactly as you said that, I'm happy to go and

934
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: do a game now and try and fold as many

935
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: blokes as I can and walk off as size I

936
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: can and realize it and feel like I've done my job.

937
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: And then it's on chairs and Brooksy and Turbo to

938
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: get the result.

939
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 4: For us.

940
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 3: So, Yeah, the last few years have been really sort

941
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 3: of directed at that, and I've been really comfortable with.

942
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: Had you ever played hooker before that or never? In

943
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: June's an you'd always played five eight half back?

944
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, halves and five eights make great hookers because

945
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: he used to. Oftentimes in juniors you'll see the hooker

946
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: just be told fire the ball from the ground where

947
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: I think Camera Smith came through.

948
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: Camera Smith's debuts are half back against the Bulldogs.

949
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: I think of two.

950
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 2: Harry Grant used to play half back when he was young,

951
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: and I think about fifteen sixteen changed.

952
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting people who to listen to what

953
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: you just said there. It's really interesting to wake up

954
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: the morning after the game. The physical pain feels good,

955
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: like mental anguish compared to physical anguish is like twenty

956
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: times worse, isn't it.

957
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was like you said, as a half

958
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: back or as even as like even a turbo is

959
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: the marquee man. When you lose a game, whether you

960
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: play good or not, you rarely come off the field

961
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: like people just don't. You don't come off. You have

962
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: to be a very selfish player to come off and

963
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: go well. I scored three tries, Like, I don't care

964
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: that we lost, because at the end of the day,

965
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 2: if you're the main man, you wear that loss so bad,

966
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't matter how good you played individually.

967
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: Right, it was debilitating for me. If we lost on

968
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: a Friday, I was gone for three days. Like my

969
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: missus couldn't talk to me. I wouldn't want to talk

970
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: to anyoney. If my family came up to watch the game,

971
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 3: I couldn't go and ad breakfast with them next morning

972
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: and talked on like a normal person. Yeah, all, I thought.

973
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: It's all I thought about twenty four to seven all

974
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: the time.

975
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: I totally get that it was true. Shoulders actually the same.

976
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: I just sleep with a notebook next to my bed,

977
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: wake up middle of the night and write five pages

978
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: of notes most of those exercising books. Still it's still there.

979
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: It flip through. If you want to move back to

980
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: the hearts, let you throw them out. But I totally

981
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: get it actually absorbs your whole life. You can't let

982
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: it go.

983
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 2: What about I wanted to ask you before you spoke

984
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: about like Dad asked you about when you know, when

985
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: you first went there, you had to sort of be

986
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: more the controller and let cheirs be that running free

987
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: flow style. Can I ask you, because everybody, everybody has

988
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: their own opinion of Daly Chair Evans, right, did you

989
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: have an opinion of what he was like prior to

990
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: coming to you?

991
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 5: Are we talking off the field, no, just just as

992
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 5: a bloke because a lot of people, a lot of

993
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 5: people see a side of him in the media or

994
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 5: see you, particularly back in the day, back in that day,

995
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 5: after the whole tits backflip stuff.

996
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 2: People hammered him in the media and people made him

997
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: out to be a really bad bloke. But did you

998
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: have what was your opinion of prior to going there?

999
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: And then what was your opinion after a week of

1000
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: hanging out with him?

1001
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: The same as everyone else before.

1002
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: Or you thought the same thing, or it's hard not luck.

1003
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: He's obviously a very articulate, well spoken person. You just

1004
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: look at him and think you're a nerd. Yeah, too polished,

1005
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: And then meeting him and the last few years he's

1006
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: changed so much as a person way that he leads

1007
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: people and interacts with people, And is it really good

1008
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: guy that feels like he's got everyone's best interests at

1009
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: hard and still a nerd? Don't get me wrong.

1010
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: But I heard that a secret but ned that we

1011
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: love Tommy Turbot is he a secret back man? Is cranky,

1012
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: prick sometimes he can he can get cranky, hat fletching,

1013
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: HEINDI with a passion.

1014
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: He does hate. He hates to a media. He hates it.

1015
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: He's talking to people in general.

1016
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: One day when we turned up Brookie for the for

1017
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: the leon Hmol thing, and he looked over and fletching.

1018
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: HEINDI was there and literally just went one of those funds.

1019
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: He said, you know what, But he's I don't know.

1020
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: I never understood, probably because of a lot of his

1021
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: injury stuff. And I reckon he's just sick of the media,

1022
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: like just he's copped it for four years of just

1023
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: like you know, how's your injury? Is that he's been

1024
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 2: asked the same question a thousand times, how's your body?

1025
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: How's your body? I reckon he's just sick of talking

1026
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: to the media about it. But he he's such a

1027
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: good blake when he's in a good mood. Turbot in

1028
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: and around training, Jesus is a good blake.

1029
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: It's good fine. Even if I throw him a foward

1030
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: pass because he's overrun me.

1031
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: No how's he We won't asking him, but has his

1032
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: body been leading too this preseason? He looks He finished

1033
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: the year last year playing for Australia in the centers

1034
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: he played outstanding.

1035
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks really good. It's no, it looks really good.

1036
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: The staff that we've got at the club have such

1037
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: an individualized program for him and have worked really hard

1038
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: on getting his body to where it is now. And

1039
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 3: then I think the key thing is to perform at

1040
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: such a high speed and higher level for an extended

1041
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: amount of time. He is always good for his body,

1042
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: so they put a lot of work into him, and

1043
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 3: he looks really good and if he's fit and healthy,

1044
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: will be somewhere there.

1045
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: Oh, you want to do it? It's tough talk. Yeah,

1046
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: let me try it for now. This isn't it's actually

1047
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 2: an award winning segment. Now, it's nearly one podcast segment

1048
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: of the year. It's the hard questions, all right, coach. Now, look,

1049
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 2: you probably haven't been asked these sort of hard hitting

1050
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 2: questions before, but Dad's going to hit your right between

1051
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: the eyes and you have to answer it.

1052
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Dad, you're a dolly true Evans's wedding, weren't you

1053
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: you're there. Yeah, did Cooper's jokes did they go? Were

1054
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: there any that you thought went too far? Lachlan?

1055
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: The disabled toilet probably went too far?

1056
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: Oh, you're right, you have.

1057
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if that one's public knowledge. Yeah, look,

1058
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, that one's.

1059
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: At the old one. We talk about it, you know

1060
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: where smoker's at the back and blah blah blah.

1061
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was that was that was in

1062
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: bad taste. You know what it was the worst part

1063
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: of telling that joke was it was definitely right for

1064
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: majority of the room, but Chez and his lovely partner

1065
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: Vessa right in front of me that it was the

1066
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: table for like a lot of their aunties and uncles

1067
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: and grandparents and stuff, and that went over their heads. Sure,

1068
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: but afterwards, which is fine, I don't mind to going

1069
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: over their heads. But afterwards they were asking me about

1070
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: what it meant, and I just I couldn't tell them

1071
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: because it was just way too awkward.

1072
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, was good, but I left Croaks alone.

1073
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: I didn't really go with Croakes.

1074
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: Well, you didn't do the the Croaks jokes that we practiced,

1075
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: which you know, the ones that you're going to talk about.

1076
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: I didn't know I wasn't going to No, no, I

1077
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: didn't have any jokes written about Croaks.

1078
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: You did, yes, you did. We had. We had a

1079
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: few Croaks down that Cooper worked on. He must decided

1080
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: that after the disabled toilet one just take a step back.

1081
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: Well Croaks has made I wouldn't go with my mate

1082
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: like that.

1083
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: Well, Coax, let you be the judge ready, some of

1084
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: these these the jokes we Brad Parker, we said, you know,

1085
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: he was dressed in black, all black. Great to sees

1086
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: come back from the funeral, he said, and it's good

1087
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: to see like lock of Croaker here, or as the

1088
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: coaching stuff called him after a lesson memorable season, Lachland Joker.

1089
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: Speaking of the joker people, what's the difference between whaqu

1090
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: In Phoenix and Lachland Croker? When wa King goes to work,

1091
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: he has more hits than this is? What are you

1092
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: looking at me? I'm telling them, But as we all know,

1093
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: Croaks is a real joker. In fact, he made a

1094
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: hilarious joke earlier about this being a sham marriage. I

1095
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: can't remember the full joke, but the punchline is this

1096
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: marriage will not fucking last. Being a crooked, well boy,

1097
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: this wedding is a real novelty for Lachlan. It's the

1098
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: first wedding he's been to wear. The bride and groom

1099
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: aren't brother and sister.

1100
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: I was waiting for an in.

1101
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: And on that note, don't croaks and his sister look

1102
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 1: fabulous tonight. I just want to apologize everyone from crook

1103
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: well because I'm used to those jokes. I' from Sesknoch. Yeah,

1104
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: and that was tough talk.

1105
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,959
Speaker 2: I actually wish that you had given me that last

1106
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: one I want to use. I want to use those

1107
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: incest ones. They are very good.

1108
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: Incest jokes are the best jokes. Always said that.

1109
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: Have you been a couple that your life incest one?

1110
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: Ye?

1111
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dad still gets it.

1112
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: I still get it all the time, you know. And

1113
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: they're all true by away. Yeah, because truth is my sister. Yes,

1114
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: we just say she's of course.

1115
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: Look, we've got one last segment for you as well, right,

1116
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: this is it's not like that. This one's called Loan

1117
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: Survivor and this is a game, and this is to

1118
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: find out your greatest ever teammate. So I'll give you

1119
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: two names and you just pick and we rattle off

1120
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: one by one until we end up with the king

1121
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: of the ring right at the end. All right, you ever.

1122
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: Played with Terry Camps by the way, just Campo. The

1123
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: last couple of years have been unusual. Campo, of course,

1124
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: what's going to run for politics? Now? He's become a

1125
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: wrestlers in camp Yeah he's a wrestler.

1126
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: He is in Queensland somewhere, isn't he? I think?

1127
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: I think so wrestling he's the black Hawks. But yeah,

1128
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: he's become a professional wrestler. I like Camper, I like him. Yeah,

1129
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: he used to angle about the yeah bit of shit

1130
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: in the liver, big fellow for a five day how

1131
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: much would you wide?

1132
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 2: You reckon?

1133
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: Maybe one hundred and six?

1134
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: That's a big fower lower there, Larry and done? All right,

1135
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: now this is look and you can take this for everyone,

1136
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: whether it's greatest teammate to play, the best player you've

1137
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: ever played with, or what. Alright, let's start it off.

1138
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: Jordan Rapner or Dylan Walker, Dylan Walker, Dylan Walker or

1139
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: Josh Papali Walker, Dylan Walker, Appy carus Our, Dylan Walker,

1140
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: Dylan Walker, Luke Brooks, Luke Fox Brooksy or Adam fanil Blake,

1141
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: Adam Adam or Jack Whiton, Jack Watton, Jackie White, m

1142
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: Hamole or Kiaran Forn You love who doesn't love him? Yeah,

1143
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: you've got some good father stories. Fozz or Jake Turbo

1144
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: Foz fozz or Tom Turbosh okay foz or Dally chairvansh

1145
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 2: is all right and now this is the big one

1146
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: fozz with Cooper Chance. Yeah mate, I know one hundred grand.

1147
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: You know what's funny? I saw, of course the probably

1148
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: shouldn't say this, but anyway, when have I ever stopped?

1149
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: We spared nothing, no expense. We saw the over in Vegas,

1150
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 2: Tony Mastrov of course, who is the CEO? And Desperate

1151
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 2: and and and Scott Pan who's the owner of Manley.

1152
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 2: And I'd had a couple on my belt at this stage,

1153
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: and I walked in and one of the someone was

1154
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: talking to him and I walked over and say good ay,

1155
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: and they went, oh, here he is, and then they

1156
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: went the greatest, They said, the greatest. It was Clint Newton.

1157
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: I think it was he was the greatest, the greatest

1158
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: Johns ever sign it Manly and Messie and Penny laughed

1159
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: and I went, what do you play? What are you

1160
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 2: boks laughing at? I said, I'm the only player that

1161
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: you've ever had that paid off their contract within the

1162
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: first two months and.

1163
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: Goes, what do you mean?

1164
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: I said, a buddy one used one hundred grand in

1165
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: the preseason challenge. I said, I was only on minimum wage.

1166
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: I paid it all straight away. I said, I'm probably

1167
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: the only one that got he's into profit. And he went,

1168
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: you know, that's actually true.

1169
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: It's like the old Castle thing. What do I tell you?

1170
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: It just paid for itself. Literally, I was book.

1171
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: I played itself off. I didn't appreciate it all.

1172
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: But as the two men sawner out of that, did

1173
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: I yeah, thank you.

1174
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: I look at him.

1175
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 2: That cost How much was the sauna?

1176
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 3: Not one hundred grand?

1177
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, you still got You've still got a bit

1178
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: left than the car. Look it over my way.

1179
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: How many years you got left there till the end

1180
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: of the next year.

1181
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: It's good. That's good.

1182
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: Do you want to be a one club player? I

1183
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: mean not you've played at Raiders, But do you want

1184
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: to finish your career at mainly ideally?

1185
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: Or yeah?

1186
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: I love the joint, I love living here, My partner

1187
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 3: loves it. Club that feels like I've been sort of

1188
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: like a junior club for me. And I've been here

1189
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: for a long time and I'm passionate about the results

1190
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: that we get because I love the joint so much.

1191
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 3: And I think that's when you know that you feel

1192
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: that way, you want to stay there for a long time.

1193
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: So we'll see see how that goes beautiful.

1194
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: And before we let you go, I want to ask

1195
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: why did Kieran forum beat all those blokes out?

1196
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, Fuzzy's pretty obvious.

1197
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it how much you love him offield

1198
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: or is it on field?

1199
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: Both?

1200
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: You know you're gonna have a full conversation with I

1201
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: and he hasn't listened to a word you said, and

1202
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: he would just talk something Australia. And he's just one

1203
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: of those guys he's just got to love. And he's

1204
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 3: a tough hole, isn't he.

1205
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: His body is still together.

1206
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: You could at their put him and Jeff two V

1207
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: in the boxing ring together. It'll be round one hundred

1208
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: and five for the result. They are too tough on bros.

1209
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: I remember once Kieran playing they played the Gold Coast

1210
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: Titans and he was opposite He's each defender that he

1211
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: was up against was send me take a TC who

1212
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: could who was who could hit like amole and fires.

1213
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: Just kept running gun barrel straight, putting short passes on

1214
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: and just suffering for his art continually. He was at

1215
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: every time I reckon. He emptied him out six times,

1216
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: never discouraged him.

1217
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't reckon, I don't reckon. There's certainly not

1218
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: a tougher half back, but pound for pound he's got

1219
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: to be one of the toughest players ever.

1220
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm not never considering what he's like. He's he's like

1221
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 3: all the injuries he's gone through, all the stuff he's

1222
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: gone through off the field, he was dead and buried

1223
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: five years ago.

1224
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: Obviously he was gone. Every time he got tackled Lachlan,

1225
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: you went, oh is he going to get up or

1226
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: pull a hamstring? And it's been remarkable he came back.

1227
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: His brother Leam was a good player as well. He's

1228
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 1: a lot of time that storm. He was good football

1229
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: big yeah, yes, yes, huge snapbox.

1230
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they reckon. He was doing the backstroke one day

1231
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 2: out the front of her and the people yelling shark apparently.

1232
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, funny. He broke his nose and a life saving.

1233
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: Operation anyway, Thanks croaks, mate. A pleasure is always to

1234
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: see you as Yeah, we're going to catch up with

1235
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: our Craigs mate.

1236
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: Admired you for a long time and now you feel

1237
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: the same that the birthday.

1238
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: Thank you