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Speaker 1: On scoring Littles Australia. This is the Wader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panicky Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight. Jim Chalmers denies claims by economists that the

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Speaker 2: rise in inflation is due to the government's high spending.

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Speaker 2: My panel will discuss that and the day's other top headlines.

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Speaker 2: The Great Douglas Murray is back and I'll get his

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Speaker 2: thoughts on everything from the celebrity virtue signaling we saw

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Speaker 2: the Grammys to the uprising in Iran. Mihrowitz will have

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Speaker 2: the latest from the US, including renewed calls for voter

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Speaker 2: ID to ensure election integrity and Left is Losing It

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Speaker 2: features this terrifying male nurse advocating for all sorts of

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Speaker 2: nastiness against Trump voters.

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Speaker 3: The vasculator in the leg it really bleeds bleeds well,

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Speaker 3: someone could bleed up very quickly from that, probably like

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Speaker 3: a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 2: Treasurer Jim Chalmers continues to insist government spending is not

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Speaker 2: to blame for the latest interest rate increase. The RBA

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Speaker 2: lifted rates twenty five points yesterday after higher than expected

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Speaker 2: inflation numbers fueled by government spending and we may be

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Speaker 2: facing further rate increases as the headline rate of the

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Speaker 2: consumer price Index is expected to hit four point two

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Speaker 2: percent at the end of the financial year, up from

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Speaker 2: the initial estimate of three point seven percent. But the

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Speaker 2: Treasurer maintains that the economic experts are wrong and that

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Speaker 2: the surgeon inflation has nothing to do with government spending.

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Speaker 5: The statement released by the Independent Reserve Bank explaining the

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Speaker 5: decision that they have taken today does not mention government

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Speaker 5: spending at all. It doesn't mention government spending at all,

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Speaker 5: mister Speaker, in fact, but makes it very clear that

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Speaker 5: the pressure on inflation he's coming from private demand.

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Speaker 2: My Outsider's colleague James Morrow, has a column in Today's

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Speaker 2: papers noting to believe charmers is to believe that everyone

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Speaker 2: from independent economists to global bodies like the International Monetary

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Speaker 2: Fund and the OECD are all in cahoots to tax

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Speaker 2: paying Australians away from the Treasurer who loves them so

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Speaker 2: much and only wants the best for them. Joining me

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Speaker 2: now is Mensi's Research Center Senior Fella Nicicata and PR

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Speaker 2: Council Managing Director at Christy McSweeney, Nick Jim Charmers sees

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Speaker 2: no relationship between government expenditure and inflationary pressure.

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Speaker 6: No, I think it's been too cute by half here

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Speaker 6: rita the idea that oh Michel Bulloch didn't mention it, Well,

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Speaker 6: she didn't mention that the sun rises in the eastern

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Speaker 6: sets in the west. But you know, we just assume

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Speaker 6: that's what happened. Everybody with very basic economic knowledge knows

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Speaker 6: that inflation always begins in Washington or in our case,

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Speaker 6: in Canberra, because government spending creates a movement in the economy.

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Speaker 6: It puts money into the economy, and that will inflate

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Speaker 6: the economy just as surely as private sector money will.

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Speaker 6: And not only that, it will spreeze out private sector money.

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Speaker 6: I shouldn't have to go into all this. I mean

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Speaker 6: people should learn this at school, shouldn't they. But Jim

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Speaker 6: Chalmers must think we're all stupid or something.

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Speaker 2: You must have been absent. They taught economics at university.

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Speaker 2: It is economics one oh one. Christy, what will this

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Speaker 2: mean for the average household to have another interest rate increase?

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Speaker 2: We've already got a cost of living crisis.

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Speaker 7: I think for the average household it's been really, really

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Speaker 7: clear and there's figures out there, not just OURBA figures,

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Speaker 7: but the Coalition has done an analysis where rents, insurance costs,

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Speaker 7: electricity costs have all gone up between twenty two and

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Speaker 7: thirty eight percent over the last two years. It is

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Speaker 7: very clear Australians can't afford continuous interest rate heights. And

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Speaker 7: as for the govern its solution to making housing more

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Speaker 7: affordable in a climate where any offset from a five

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Speaker 7: percent deposit labor Party first Home bonus scheme is not

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Speaker 7: going to be worth the paper it's written on, and

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Speaker 7: it isn't anyway, because there's much data out there saying

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Speaker 7: it's just driving up house prices with rates on top

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Speaker 7: of that, it's not really helping young Australians get into

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Speaker 7: a home, and it's not helping those who have a

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Speaker 7: home be able to pay for other essentials.

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Speaker 2: The number of rate increases we've had, we were expecting

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Speaker 2: to have decreases in the last absolute months. We were

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Speaker 2: talking about four or five yeah drops, and instead we're

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Speaker 2: going back up again. And in light of yesterday's rate rise,

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Speaker 2: the Albanezer government is promising a swath of tax reforms

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Speaker 2: in its budget. A government sources told the Australian Financial

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Speaker 2: Review that the fifty percent capital gains tax discount for

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Speaker 2: property investors is being primed for the chopping block. Christi

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Speaker 2: AaB had gone quite on this idea after the twenty

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Speaker 2: nineteen election, but slashing capital gains tax discount now seems

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Speaker 2: to be at the forefront of the Treasurer's agenda.

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Speaker 7: Well, we've got an economic environment that is led by

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Speaker 7: a really strangled industrial relations agenda, and that's how labor

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Speaker 7: governments run the economy by ceding too union industrial relations

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Speaker 7: agenda which does nothing to promote private company enterprise and productivity.

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Speaker 7: So we now have over fifty percent of federal government

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Speaker 7: coffers paid for by working Australians. Fifty percent of government

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Speaker 7: revenue is by the tax of payg Australians.

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Speaker 8: So we're hugely stagnant.

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Speaker 7: We can't produce anything, we can't lift our economic productivity

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Speaker 7: because of industrial relations framework that we have.

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Speaker 8: That means that, well, where's money going to come from.

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Speaker 7: It's going to come from property and it's going to

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Speaker 7: come from superannuation because that is all the government has

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Speaker 7: to play with without creating any other reforms.

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Speaker 2: Well, Nick, this is labor reverting to type they were

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Speaker 2: scareduled off these sorts of policies after twenty nineteen. But

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Speaker 2: we know this is at the core of modern labor,

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Speaker 2: the politics of envy, punishing those who work, those who save,

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Speaker 2: and those who invest.

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Speaker 6: There's two phrases that really send a chill down my

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Speaker 6: spine when they come from a labor treasurer. One is

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Speaker 6: tax reform, because you know he's not going to reform

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Speaker 6: taxes down. The other is intergenerational equity. Well, what does

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Speaker 6: that mean. It means he's got his hand in granny's teapot.

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Speaker 6: He's after our retirement savings. That's what he's doing with

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Speaker 6: this capital gains tax grab on investment property because, as

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Speaker 6: you know, most people, most investment property is owned by

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Speaker 6: ordinary people who've saved hard all their lives, put money

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Speaker 6: aside so that they can invest in a property for

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Speaker 6: their retirement. He's going after retirement savings. And this is

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Speaker 6: just a ludicrous because you go after people's retirement savings,

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Speaker 6: you forced them all on the pension. There's no intergenerational

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Speaker 6: lectory in that. It just means that young people got

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Speaker 6: to work hard to pay income tax so they can

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Speaker 6: pay people on a pension much better that people should

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Speaker 6: be able to support themselves in retirement, because that's totally

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Speaker 6: an anathema to Labour's view.

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Speaker 1: Of the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, I wonder how long before we start hearing about

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Speaker 2: inheritance tax and having those discussions. I can't be far

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Speaker 2: away now. Lydia Thorpe was back to her usual antics.

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Speaker 2: On the first Senate sitting day of the year, the

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Speaker 2: Independent senator dramatically stormed out of the chamber during a

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Speaker 2: debate about Israeli President Isaac Herzog's visit to Australia. The

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Speaker 2: Greens had put forward a motion condemning the government's decision

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Speaker 2: to invite the Israeli president. Now wats here as Lydia

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Speaker 2: Thorpe interrupts Labor Senator Anthony Chisholm's explanation as to why

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Speaker 7: Rather than disrupting the important routine of business, and I

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Speaker 7: would now move that the question be put so the

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Speaker 7: question is that the suspension motion, as a move by

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Speaker 7: Senator Shuebridgeby agreed.

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Speaker 2: To it really is just the child senator, isn't she nick?

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Speaker 2: After that, Lydia Thorpe rose from her chair and walked out.

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Speaker 6: Althought it's very generous of you to call it a debate.

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Speaker 6: Reta mean. A debate is where you put up a

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Speaker 6: proposition and then somebody argues against it, and you argue

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Speaker 6: the counterposition. No, no, she just stands up and says

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Speaker 6: no pride in genocide and storms out of the chamber.

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Speaker 6: This is just adolescent behavior, isn't it. She doesn't seem

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Speaker 6: to have grown up at all in the Christmas break.

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Speaker 6: It's a disgrace in the Parliament. It's really a disgrace

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Speaker 6: to our country. And it's a real insult, of course

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Speaker 6: to the Jewish community that they've suffered so much since

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Speaker 6: over Bondi that she can even now stand up and

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Speaker 6: say that the Israeli President shouldn't be coming here. Of

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Speaker 6: course he should be coming here. Fifteen Jews were killed

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Speaker 6: on December fourteenth, and it's only fit and proper that

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Speaker 6: the president should come here. I hope the Prime Minister

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Speaker 6: does too.

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Speaker 2: By the way, now till MPs Zali Stegel and Soface

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Speaker 2: Gams have also penned a joint letter expressing their concern

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Speaker 2: about the visit by the Israeli president. The letter says,

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Speaker 2: we are deeply concerned about the potential consequences this invitation

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Speaker 2: and visit may have for social cohesion within Australia. CHRISTI

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Speaker 2: these teals seem to claim that unity among all communities

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Speaker 2: in this country will be threatened by this visit. I

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Speaker 2: mean that is fairly sinister. I would have thought it's.

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Speaker 7: The buzz code word for everything, isn't it social cohesion?

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Speaker 7: It's a cop out for not having an opinion. It's

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Speaker 7: a cop out bubble speak phrase that politicians seem to

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Speaker 7: use for every answer about every question on immigration and

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Speaker 7: particularly to do with Israel Palestine, activism on our streets

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Speaker 7: causing damage and harm to communities. And can I say

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Speaker 7: the tears are actually representing a view that was really

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Speaker 7: prevalent in the Labor Party. We saw Ann Lee, the

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Speaker 7: Multicultural Affairs Minister, answer with the same statement three times

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Speaker 7: if it would be a welcome visit.

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Speaker 8: She refused to say she welcomed it.

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Speaker 7: The Prime Minister had to come out several hours later

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Speaker 7: and say he didn't welcome it either. He didn't say that,

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Speaker 7: but he said it might promote social cohesion and reconciliation.

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Speaker 7: So they have just represented a view that it's also

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Speaker 7: very very common in Labor but buzzwordsis social cohesion buzzwear.

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Speaker 2: When you hear the words social cohesion, you should be

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Speaker 2: on red alert that you are being sold something that

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Speaker 2: shut up about it now. A Liberal senator has raised

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Speaker 2: security concerns about the number of close family members of

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Speaker 2: senior Iranian regime figures living in Australia. Dave Shama raised

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Speaker 2: to address the issue. The letter details concerns about a

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Speaker 2: According to her social media accounts. There's no suggestion of

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Speaker 2: any specific wrongdoing by the woman, but her father is

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Speaker 2: a senior commander in Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard before becoming

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Speaker 2: a military advisor to Ayatola Ali Komeni. He's also currently

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Speaker 2: sanctioned by Australia. Nick, the question is why does this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and why don't we hear Lydia thought storming out

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Speaker 6: of Parliament over this one?

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Speaker 1: You know why?

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Speaker 6: It is rarely president as I'm saying it no, you're

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Speaker 6: quite right to ask questions about why these people are

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Speaker 6: in Australia. We should also be asking questions about where

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Speaker 6: they get the money to live here in luxury. The

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Speaker 6: relatives of people are part of that odious regime in Tehran.

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Speaker 6: This is money, no doubt, which has been filtered and

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Speaker 6: stolen from the Iranian people by this awful, horrible dictatorial

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Speaker 6: regime which all of us, all of us should be

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Speaker 6: wishing the demise of very quickly. And I would love

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Speaker 6: to see the Greens, indeed the Left in genera or

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Speaker 6: even the ABC spend a little bit more time talking

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Speaker 6: about the evils of Iran and its regime and less

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Speaker 6: time obsessing about Israel.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that's going to happen. But Christy,

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Speaker 2: this woman, as we said, accused of any specific wrongdoing

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Speaker 2: in Australia, but her family is part of a regime

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Speaker 2: that oppresses women, and yet she's living in a free

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Speaker 2: and enjoy all sorts of protections that women don't have

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Speaker 7: There's actually a significant descent around the privileged position that

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Speaker 7: children of the leaders of the Iranian regime are in

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Speaker 2: including his latest work on Democracies and death cults. Douglas Murray,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. We are going to tackle some serious geopolitical

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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty six, in the week of the Grammys,

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Speaker 2: where we were treated to endless empty platitudes and virtue

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Speaker 2: from Billie Eilish, no one is illegal on stolen land, Douglas.

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Speaker 2: How does she simultaneously advocate for open borders and also

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Speaker 1: I don't think it does work. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 2: I see people sharing that statement of hers unronically and

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Speaker 2: Ice protest and everyone had to submit. Indeed, Country star

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Speaker 2: Jelly Roll has come under intense criticism for refusing to

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Speaker 4: So I can tell you that people shouldn't care to

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Speaker 4: I haven't watched enough. I didn't have a phone for

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Speaker 1: I've had one for four months and don't have social media.

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Speaker 2: Douglas, how much is this celebrity activism going to move

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think it'll help move the dial enormously in President

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Speaker 2: There is an uprising against Islamu's regime. There has been

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Speaker 1: The big problem which you know with the UN is

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Speaker 2: I've been wanting to ask you about this shocking story

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Speaker 2: from the Netherlands, where an idealistic project to house refugees

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Speaker 2: and students together in a custom built block became a

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Speaker 2: nightmare of sexual assault and violence. The scheme placed one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five students alongside one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: five refugees, with residents encouraged to form buddy partnerships to

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Speaker 2: help my fagrants adjusted Dutch society. However, testimonies from former

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Speaker 2: residents shared in an investigative documentary described repeated sexual assaults, stalking,

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Speaker 2: and violent confrontations, and Douglas this nightmare endured for years

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Speaker 2: because everyone seemed to be so desperate for this pioneering

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Speaker 2: project to work, and immediately for me, brought back the

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Speaker 2: grooming gang scandal in the UK, supposedly well intentioned people

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Speaker 2: turning a blind eye to just some horrific behavior.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is reminiscent of that, and sadly

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Speaker 1: of many other such cases Reta. I mean it reminds

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Speaker 1: me of cases I wrote about in The Strange Death

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Speaker 1: of Europe ten years ago, now where, for instance, something

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Speaker 1: there was a case I mentioned where an AID worker

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Speaker 1: who worked with refugees and encouraged open borders was herself

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Speaker 1: raped by some refugees migrants and was encouraged by her

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Speaker 1: colleagues not to report it and indeed to cover it

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Speaker 1: up so that the narrative held. And this story from

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Speaker 1: the Netherlands is very similar to that, and I think

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Speaker 1: it speaks to a really big problem in our time.

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Speaker 1: You have to say, you have to ask the question,

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Speaker 1: how many, for instance, sexual assaults do you want to

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Speaker 1: cover up in order to protect the narrative that you're

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Speaker 1: pushing on the people. See, I would have thought the

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Speaker 1: answer is none. I think that would be the obvious one.

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Speaker 1: If you stick a bunch of students beside a large

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Speaker 1: number of recently arrived males from other cultures who will

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Speaker 1: not share the Dutch attitudes towards sex and much more,

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Speaker 1: you are going to have problems. I would have thought

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Speaker 1: that the moment that the first assault happened, you scrapped

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Speaker 1: the experiment. But isn't it interesting, Rita, that in all

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Speaker 1: of these cases there seems to be this belief, the

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Speaker 1: foundational not I want't say myth, but the foundational belief

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Speaker 1: of the society has to be held to even if

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Speaker 1: a massive number of lives are ruined along the way.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that should be the deal. I

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Speaker 1: think we should be able to pivot, We should be

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Speaker 1: able to reverse mistakes, We should be able to alter

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Speaker 1: the course we're on if the course we're on isn't working.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see, you know, maybe the Dutch authorities, like

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Speaker 1: many of the British authorities and others in recent years,

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Speaker 1: will decide that there is some permissible amount of rape

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Speaker 1: that you can have in your societies in order to

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Speaker 1: continue the shibboleths of our time. I think it's lamentable that.

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Speaker 1: And then you mentioned history earlier. I really think that

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Speaker 1: when people look back at things like this, look back

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Speaker 1: at the way in which in twenty first century Europe

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Speaker 1: we regarded people and victims of domestic victims of sexual

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Speaker 1: violence as being just sort of easily counted up as

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Speaker 1: just collateral to the prevailing ideology, I think we'll look

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Speaker 1: back on that with not just bewilderment, but serious judgment.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's hope. So, let's hope there's some lessons learned,

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Speaker 2: because in the UK it doesn't appear to be the case.

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Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 1: It's a great pleasure. As always, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Still to come. Lefties are losing ed, plus the latest

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Speaker 2: from the US, including renewed calls for voter ID to

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Speaker 2: ensure election integrity. Army Horowitz is up next. You're watching

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Speaker 2: the Reader Panney Show, and it's time for lefties losing it.

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Speaker 2: I've always said the most racist, bigoted folk in the

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Speaker 2: West are the modern left. Shameless about it. Their race

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Speaker 2: obsessions are frankly sick, and so much of what they

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Speaker 2: do is projection. They accuse their political opponents of what

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Speaker 2: they themselves are guilty of. And here is another example.

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Speaker 2: Watch these anti ice activists call a black agent the

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Speaker 2: N word after accusing him of ripping people from their families.

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Speaker 9: Like we should rip people appost from their family?

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Speaker 4: Are you a man?

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Speaker 10: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 9: Is that a question?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 9: Okay? People? Why are you calling a woman a man?

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Speaker 2: They use the N word there at least three times,

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Speaker 2: and they seemed extra angry that we asked, quite reasonably

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Speaker 2: if the dude in the dress was a man. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: misgendering a man pretending to be a woman means you

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Speaker 2: can be called the inward repeatedly. Let's check in with

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Speaker 2: a male nurse now, who seems to be advocating for

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Speaker 2: all sorts of behaviors that would be a breach of

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Speaker 2: the hippocratic growth.

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Speaker 3: Remember how much power nurses have in this country. One

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Speaker 3: of our own was just murdered in the street. So

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Speaker 3: we might be able to stop this somehow. The type

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Speaker 3: of ice you nurse I was, I was cardiac ice

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Speaker 3: you nurse, and I did a lot of time, lots

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Speaker 3: of hours holding on a growing that wouldn't stop bleeding.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you what that for moral artery? The

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Speaker 3: vasculator in the leg it really bleeds bleeds. Well, someone

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Speaker 3: could bleed up very quickly from that, probably like a

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Speaker 3: couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: Really, when I.

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Speaker 2: Tell you these people are nuts, I'm not kidding. Nuts

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Speaker 2: and nasty and with a false sense of moral superiority.

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Speaker 3: I would really suggest to other healthcare organizations out there

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Speaker 3: that if you have knowingly MAGA employees, that you terminate them.

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Speaker 3: They're not safe people to take care of other people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the MAGA nurses and doctors that are a

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Speaker 2: threat to patients. What was I saying before about projection?

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Speaker 2: That's all the left have these days, lies and projection.

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Speaker 2: And earlier today the dude their Chad lost his job.

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Speaker 2: Thank god, you know, after that vileness, let's have a

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Speaker 2: little fun. This next clip has sent the online left

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Speaker 2: into fits of unbridled rage. I can't imagine why. What

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Speaker 2: could be more delightful than a Nicki Minaj Scott percent collapse.

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Speaker 2: I did not think would see a Minaj collaboration with

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Speaker 2: the Treasury Secretary in my lifetime, but here we are,

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Speaker 2: and we were treated to this delightful pairing as well.

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Speaker 2: That's my favorite president. The best president of all.

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Speaker 4: Times, and I'm with the Queen of rap.

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Speaker 2: You know, the president seems much happier in the company

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Speaker 2: of superstarnik In Minaj than members of the media, including

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Speaker 2: the perpetually miserable CNN anchor Caitlin Collins. Watch this exchange

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Speaker 2: from earlier today.

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Speaker 1: What do you say.

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Speaker 11: You have a worst reporter? No wonder see Shena has

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Speaker 11: no ratings because of people like you. You know, she's

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Speaker 11: a young woman. I don't think I've ever seen you smile. I'

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Speaker 11: know you for ten years. I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 11: seen a smile smiling because you know, you're not telling

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Speaker 11: the truth and you're you're a very dishonest organization and

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Speaker 11: they should be ashamed of you.

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Speaker 2: Now, Nicki Minaj has put the issue of voter ID

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Speaker 2: back on the agenda, and the latest polling is clear

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Speaker 2: people of all colors, backgrounds, and political persuasions want to

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Speaker 2: see voter ID, except the hard left that dominate the media,

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Speaker 2: political and activist class. Even CNN has had to admit

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Speaker 2: that the overwhelming majority of Americans want voter ID.

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Speaker 12: Eighty three percent in the last year of Americans agree

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Speaker 12: with Nicki Minaj. They favor photo ID to be able

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Speaker 12: to vote.

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Speaker 4: What about by party? What's the party breaking?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and normally you might expect, hey, there'd be a

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Speaker 12: big divide by party, but Republicans really forwarding, Democrats really

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Speaker 12: against it.

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Speaker 4: But not really here. I mean, just take a look.

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Speaker 12: Here, favorite photo idea voute You got ninety five percent

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Speaker 12: of Republicans, pretty much all of but even seventy one

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Speaker 12: percent of Democrats favorite photo IDA votes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that all seems rather emphatic. But what about

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Speaker 2: the racial background, because that's what the left has been

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Speaker 2: arguing for years, the voter ID is racist.

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Speaker 12: Eighty five percent of white people favorite, eighty two percent

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Speaker 12: of Latino, seventy six percent of Black Americans favorite. So

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Speaker 12: the bottom line is this voter ID is not controversial

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Speaker 12: in this country. A photo ID to vote is not

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Speaker 12: controversial in this country. It is not controversial by party,

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Speaker 12: and it is not controversial by race. The vast majority

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Speaker 12: of Americans agree with Nicki Minaj that, in fact, you

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Speaker 12: should have a photo ID to be able to vote.

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Speaker 2: Wow, eighty two percent of Latino and seventy six percent

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Speaker 2: of black voters favor voter ID. And yet the left

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Speaker 2: will argue it is racist and designed to stop minorities

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Speaker 2: from voting. Let's have a look at how the left

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Speaker 2: view minority voters and voter id The casual bigotry you're

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Speaker 2: a back to here is astounding. This is the bigotry

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Speaker 2: of low expectations.

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Speaker 4: Do you have an opinion of voter id laws.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're usually pretty racist and they're bad.

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Speaker 11: I think voter ideal laws are a way to perpetuate racism.

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Speaker 4: Would you say there, would you go as far as

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Speaker 4: those laws are racist?

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Speaker 9: For sure?

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Speaker 4: Do you think it suppresses doing after American votes?

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Speaker 13: Definitely, because they're less likely to have state ideas.

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Speaker 10: Minority voters are less likely to have the kinds of

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Speaker 10: ideas that have been described or required.

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Speaker 3: These type of people don't live in areas with easy

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Speaker 3: access to d mds.

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Speaker 4: Or other places where then get identification. You can always

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Speaker 4: get ideas you do over the internet. Is that also

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Speaker 4: make it difficult for black people in particular?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you have to have access to the internet. You

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Speaker 10: have to be able to pay an Internet service provider

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Speaker 10: for certain fees.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that's harder for black people to go online?

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Speaker 13: Well, I feel like they don't have the knowledge of

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Speaker 13: how of like how it works.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people have smartphones, we might have data.

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Speaker 14: Most of the communities they don't really know what is

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Speaker 14: out there just because they're not aware or like they're

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Speaker 14: not in forum. I also think there's a repression of

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Speaker 14: like black voting with how they how if you're a

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Speaker 14: convicted pelan, like you're not allowed to vote and everything.

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Speaker 14: And when you look at swing steads like Florida, that's

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Speaker 14: a huge population of the of the like African Americans.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me get this straight. According to the left,

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Speaker 2: people of color are either too dumb or too poor

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Speaker 2: to have ID or their criminals. Let's bring in the

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Speaker 2: man behind that Voxpop documentary filmmaker and commentator Army Horoid's Army.

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Speaker 2: Before I get your input, let's have a look at

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Speaker 2: you and East Harlem speaking to black folk about what

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Speaker 2: white leftists think of their ability to get ID.

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Speaker 4: Do you carry ID?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: Do you know anybody who any black person doesn't carry idea?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 9: And one that I know had ID.

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Speaker 4: Why would they think we don't have ID.

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Speaker 2: That's a lie.

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Speaker 4: Why would they say.

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Speaker 13: That do you have yes?

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Speaker 10: Because I have my ID and my friends have their ideas,

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Speaker 10: So we know what we need to carry around?

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Speaker 4: Do everybody that I know have ID?

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Speaker 5: Like, that's one of the things you need to walk

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Speaker 5: around with New York with ID.

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Speaker 4: Do you know any black adult who does not have ID?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: Is it a weird thing to even say that?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 11: It is?

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Speaker 2: How many it is a weird thing to say. But

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Speaker 2: here we are with the Democrats and the propagandist in

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Speaker 2: the media claiming veroter id is inherently racist?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Who was that young handsome man on camera?

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Speaker 9: Wow?

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Speaker 4: I fairly recognize him anymore?

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Speaker 13: You know, not to pat myself on the back, but

659
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Speaker 13: that that video has over a quarter of a billion views.

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Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, well I guess I will pack myself

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Speaker 4: in the bag. What do you.

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Speaker 2: Deserves a pat?

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Speaker 4: Thank you? You know? A little background that video? Do

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Speaker 4: we Not?

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Speaker 13: Only is it crazy how they've made the argument that

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Speaker 13: voter idea is racist, and that's really the argument the left,

667
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Speaker 13: not the entire left, not just like the radical left,

668
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Speaker 13: but the mainstream democratic left is made. It's also they

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Speaker 13: deny that there's voter fraud out there. And the reason

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Speaker 13: why I made that video originally is because I was

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Speaker 13: going to vote and in Los Angeles at the time,

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Speaker 13: and my father had died just like six seven months

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Speaker 13: prior to that, and I went to vote and his

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Speaker 13: name was on the voter rolls, okay, which I wasn't

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Speaker 13: crazy because you know, he just died if I don't

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Speaker 13: know how long it takes them to read the vote roles,

677
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Speaker 13: but somebody had voted for him, right, there's a check

678
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Speaker 13: margin next to name. And I said to the guy, go,

679
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Speaker 13: my father died.

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Speaker 4: He's dead.

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Speaker 13: Somebody came in, gave his name, gave his address because

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Speaker 13: he looked that up, and they voted for him.

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Speaker 4: And that's what inspired me.

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Speaker 13: To do that video because there's massive, massive amount of

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Speaker 13: voter fraud out there, and voter ida were eliminating a

686
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Speaker 13: lot of that. But yeah, the racism of the left

687
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Speaker 13: is unfull display there. They couldn't imagine black people have

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Speaker 13: the ability to vote, to have I to think like

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Speaker 13: a like a white person, right, That's that's the entire

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Speaker 13: ethos of the left. And you know, you know it's

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Speaker 13: always about the left often mistakes and conflates a.

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Speaker 4: Class and race. They do that a lot.

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Speaker 13: And the pushback I had gotten that video every time

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Speaker 13: I was doing interviews from the left was saying, well,

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Speaker 13: if you went to rural Alabama, they wouldn't have the

696
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Speaker 13: same perspective because it's harder for them to go to

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Speaker 13: get id I go, but rule Alabama or rural North

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Speaker 13: Carolina are mostly poor white people.

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Speaker 4: It's about poverty level, not about race.

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Speaker 13: But by the way, just as an aside, even people

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Speaker 13: in rural Alabama all have id this is a This

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Speaker 13: is a almost universal.

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Speaker 4: Thing that people have ID.

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Speaker 13: Yet I thank the left for that readA because I've

705
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Speaker 13: created a kind of a cottage industry doing videos about

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Speaker 13: how the left is race is about black people.

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Speaker 4: People were to come to obesty, I.

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Speaker 13: Remember the Obese video, same kind of idea, and they

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Speaker 13: told me the reason why there's moral beast in the

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Speaker 13: black community is because black people stress eat because of

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Speaker 13: so much racism.

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Speaker 4: And of course I went to Harlem and they laughed

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Speaker 4: at that. I kid you not. I couldn't make that up.

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Speaker 13: Right, or defund the police and call the people on

715
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Speaker 13: the left for saying defund the police is wonderful. I

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Speaker 13: go to Harlem to go no, no, please, We're the

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Speaker 13: last people wont to fund the police. So yeah, this

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Speaker 13: is a hallmark of the left.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Now we're gonna go to a quick break. But when

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Speaker 2: we come back, Army is going to rejoin, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about Don Lemon and Jimmy Kimmel getting

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Speaker 2: together and two bigger victim playing attention see, because you

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Speaker 2: will not find welcome back. Let's check in now on

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Speaker 2: Don Lemon, who appeared with Jimmy Kimmel and two bigger

726
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Speaker 2: victim playing attention see, because you will not find they.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't have to have all these people following me around.

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Speaker 1: It's more than just a waste of resources. So they

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Speaker 1: grab you and they take you where.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're right about more than just a waste of resources.

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Speaker 1: They want that.

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Speaker 3: They want to embarrass you, they want to intimidate you,

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Speaker 3: they want to instill fear, and so that's why they

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Speaker 3: did it that way.

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Speaker 2: I got to say, Don Lemon is loving this. He

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Speaker 2: hasn't had this much attention for years.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear from La Mayor Karen Bass, who claims that

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Speaker 2: Don Lemon being arrested for storming a church during Sunday

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Speaker 2: service is somehow a racial matter.

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Speaker 15: I have a particular message to Black America that it's

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Speaker 15: interesting that I believe the journalists that were arrested all

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Speaker 15: look like me and you ten seconds and so this

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Speaker 15: is not the first time this has happened. As a

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Speaker 15: matter of fact, the journalist that is with me, Jasmine,

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Speaker 15: was arrested a few years ago.

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Speaker 2: Armie, what's your response to that? Is there a racial

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Speaker 2: element in the execution of don Lemon?

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Speaker 4: God?

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Speaker 13: No, Look, Karen Bass is low key one of the

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Speaker 13: worst mayors in America.

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Speaker 4: We don't talk about her enough. Is the problem.

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Speaker 13: We talked about a lot of I'm Donnie. We talked

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Speaker 13: about in the Mayor Chicago Brandon. Yeah, we gotta talk

755
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Speaker 13: a little more about in the my resolution in twenty

756
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Speaker 13: twenty six, talk more about Karen Bass.

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Speaker 4: It's a horrible, absolutely horrible mayor.

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Speaker 13: Look, I know, it seems like I'm gonna let people

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Speaker 13: on to the kimono a little bit here for the show.

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Speaker 13: I know, it seems like that when I do this,

761
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Speaker 13: like a fifteen minute interview every week, that I just

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Speaker 13: kind of sit down, pop down, and then I just drop,

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Speaker 13: you know, you know, knowledge.

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Speaker 4: All across the place.

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Speaker 13: But the reality is I do show prep. Okay, that's

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Speaker 13: the truth. And yeah, look, she's kind of right that.

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Speaker 13: In twenty twenty five, under Trump thirty two journalists were

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Speaker 13: arrested by Donald Trump. Yeah, by the that is absolutely true.

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Speaker 13: Problem was, in twenty twenty four, forty nine journalists were

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Speaker 13: arrested under the Biden administration. So I didn't not sure

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Speaker 13: that narrative actually works for her. Look, the truth is

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Speaker 13: is that Don Lemon all full disclosure, kind of a

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Speaker 13: friend of mine.

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Speaker 4: I like Don.

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Speaker 13: We talked on the phone a lot. We obviously are

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Speaker 13: very different people. And I'm not gonna and this is

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Speaker 13: not our friendship. Is not going to color my next point.

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Speaker 13: But I got to tell you. And by the way,

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Speaker 13: he is loving it. Of course, my god, after he

780
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Speaker 13: was fired from Sin and he's never been more popular.

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Speaker 13: Of course, this was a godsend for him. Let's be

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Speaker 13: totally honest. Okay, he was the bore of irrelevancy. Sorry Don,

783
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Speaker 13: and but now he's had this Resurgence's good for him.

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Speaker 13: But the truth is, I don't like I don't think

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Speaker 13: this was a good idea. I think this was a

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Speaker 13: own goal by the chart administration.

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Speaker 4: You're just getting a discression.

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Speaker 13: You're allowing people to to hook their their you know,

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Speaker 13: their their their hook sink their hooks onto an issue

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00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 13: which is really relatively irrelevant, and it's moving from the

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Speaker 13: agenda and from what he really wants to accomplished. When

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Speaker 13: they started saying, look, you're arresting journalist Don Lemna, wasn't

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Speaker 13: doing anything. And look, do I think Donalomanic should be arrested.

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Speaker 13: I don't, as somebody who engaged in guerrilla journalism a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: was he there? Did he have fore knowledge? Of course

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Speaker 13: he did. Yes, he knew exactly what was going on,

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Speaker 13: But this is kind of what journalists do. You don't

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Speaker 13: get arrest for going on a ride along with criminals,

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Speaker 13: just kind of the reality.

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Speaker 4: It's a fine line.

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Speaker 13: There's a face act, and he may have crossed that

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Speaker 13: line there, I get it.

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Speaker 4: But the more important thing is, I.

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Speaker 2: Think, but that is that legislation. That legislation exists. I

805
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: do agree. It's distracting, and you can look at it

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00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: as an as an own goal because the left is

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Speaker 2: going to run a particular narrative here about the media

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Speaker 2: being oppressed and free speech being breached, all that nonsense.

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Speaker 2: But he, on the face of it, appears to have

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Speaker 2: broken the law. You can't go storming churches during Sunday service,

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Speaker 2: terrifying families, including small children, and then just say I

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Speaker 2: was doing journalism. You wouldn't. You'd be arrested if you

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Speaker 2: did that in a mosque or if it happened really

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Speaker 2: any place other than a church. It seems like anything goes.

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Speaker 2: But let's before you go, I want to get your

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Speaker 2: take on what's happening in New York right now. The

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Speaker 2: new mayor, there's or on Mamdani has overseen a tragic

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Speaker 2: period where sixteen people have died during this cold snap

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Speaker 2: you're having. Mamdani ordered the NYPD not to tear down

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Speaker 2: homeless in campus, and I met that act of so

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Speaker 2: called compassion has arguably contributed to more suffering and the

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Speaker 2: tragic outcome of ten people dead in a single weekend

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Speaker 2: in the freezing cold.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and unfortunately, get ready for more of that as

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Speaker 13: we go forward, because we're gonna be cutting down on

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Speaker 13: services because we have to, because he's spending a gender

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Speaker 13: so out of whack. He wants to spend one hundred

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Speaker 13: million dollars from transgender healthcare services. Look, I don't know

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Speaker 13: why that has been additional term it can they get

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Speaker 13: regular healthcare services? I don't under stand what's going What

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Speaker 13: is that money for?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 13: Another they're calculating almost three billion dollars in lost revenues

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Speaker 13: because he's gonna allow fair jumpers on the subway system

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Speaker 13: and he wants to make the buses free. All of

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00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 13: these things are going to bring the New York economy

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Speaker 13: to a standstill, okay, and it's gonna be back to

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Speaker 13: what it was in nineteen seventy five, and the city

839
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Speaker 13: almost declared bankruptcy, really kind of did, just optically it didn't.

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Speaker 13: And that led to five thousand police officers that were

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Speaker 13: cut back, six thousand firefighters. Imagine the loss of life then,

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Speaker 13: and what will happen now if we have to do

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Speaker 13: that again?

844
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Speaker 4: And we will have to do.

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Speaker 13: That again because he is spending money, spending priorities are

846
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 13: like a leftist Marxist.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, and and and.

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Speaker 13: Addition to that, wait until he tries to bring and

849
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 13: he's what he's trying to do is bring more real estate,

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Speaker 13: more apartments in New York under the the rubric under

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Speaker 13: the federal government. As we know, the federal government is

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Speaker 13: great and making sure that people have heat in the wintertime,

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Speaker 13: eertishing in the summertime. Just a lot of people live

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Speaker 13: in housing developments all across the New York City, what

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Speaker 13: it's like in the wintertime, in the summertime.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna see a lot more of this. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: you know what army.

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Speaker 2: You voted for it, and you're gonna get it. And

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Speaker 2: my sympathy levels are at an all time low because

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00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 2: you have a choice here and you keep voting in

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00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: these dangerous hard lefties in Horowitz. Thanks for your time tonight,

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Speaker 2: and that's all the time we've got. I'll see you

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Speaker 2: at eleven tomorrow night. Newsnight is up next.