1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Oscar Piastri did what is known in the trade as 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: a freemantle, docker the freehold and desperately hoping that's not 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: a poortend of things to come. The returns of opening 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: rounds are in the while the old Magpies play spoiler 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: to the hyper sharp assessments are made. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: In the ranks of the defeatings. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 3: Gold Coast promoted to a share of Premiership favoritism, such 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: as the magnitude of the first impression. Damien Hardwick joins 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: us and essen't coach. 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: Brad Scott is back at the desk after a complicated 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: offseason that brings us to the Zach Merritt moments on 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Friday nights. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 4: I see the players today. Can you help me on 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 4: on three sixty in one? Pay aware of that conversation. 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't live under a rock. 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 4: The reality is now. The gloves are off course fair 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 4: and luck more. 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: A fine job is pretty clear. 19 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: Make Hawthorne when it would be very good to hide 20 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 4: the seat. Be sure I think that Carlott follow Bucco. 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 5: I can't have that. 22 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: I what do you want us to play? 23 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: Worse? When it caught my. 24 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Eye end mustang L's the graatest. 25 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 5: Prize that first look at it and she said, there's 26 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 5: a dent in that cap. 27 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: Look it. 28 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 4: Sure enough, there is. 29 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: Did you enjoy your first taste of footy in twenty 30 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: twenty six? 31 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 4: I did, Jared. 32 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: I won't say I absolutely loved it because the fifth 33 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: of March there's no world that I live in that 34 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: should be the start of the home and away. But 35 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: once we got down it was great. I was up 36 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: there Saturday night and saw the dogs wollsome. 37 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: I could have gone another one today, you could have yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe, 38 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: but mccolla day, Victoria, South Australia. 39 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: You've got thirty more weeks of this, just give it room. 40 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 3: But it was an early start, Jared and long quot Anyway, 41 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: I don't want to start on a negative because they 42 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: have some great footy quote. 43 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: All right, Brad's got Damien Hardwick, our coaches. Lee Matthews 44 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: is here on the couch along with Nathan Buckley. That's 45 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: what lies ahead on Fox Footy tonight every Monday. I'm 46 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: thrilled to say the return of the GVP's the most 47 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: valuable player from the previous round in the estimation of 48 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: just one man, Gary Lyon. Now, this was already the 49 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: biggest prize in footy and Ford have just stepped up 50 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: a little bit further. 51 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: Wow, we have moved from Mustang, it's a Ranger Super 52 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: Dudy x l T for the GVP winner. 53 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 3: There's one hundred and eight thousand dollars worth of automobile. 54 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 3: It is a beast, Jared, and it will be the 55 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: most sort of after prizing footy. 56 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: And well, it's all. 57 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: Fools on my shoulders. No correspondence will be entered into 58 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 3: at any stage. 59 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: So Ford have stepped up with that and there's more 60 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: to come. I know, well they're going to make announcements, so. 61 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 4: I look forward to it. 62 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable thought of up the ante, rive up the 63 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: voting process. There's now five players to be awarded votes 64 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: every Monday, four hundred and. 65 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: Four Dolleen players each week take the field, Jared. So 66 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: I'm only allowed awards, only allowed three, so I beg 67 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: for five. So I've done exactly that and we can 68 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: kick things off for opening round. I thought this bloke 69 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: was a difference. 70 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 4: He set them up. 71 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: I know there are others that you can make a 72 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: really good argument for, but it was in a hole 73 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: of this game and I needed a shot of an 74 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: injection of class and it was Errol Gooden was the 75 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 3: one that did it. So it's the one to Jake 76 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: the Snake. He kicked five goals four This is against 77 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: the defense that had three State of Origin players in it, 78 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: embarrass and Battle and Hardwick, and he could have had 79 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: seven easily. 80 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: Jake, So don't give him a contract too soon. 81 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 3: Keep him hungry. This game was full of superstars, and 82 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: by the end of it, Ed Richards elevated him again 83 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: himself again to the absolute top. He was absolutely magnificent. 84 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 4: I love the way he plays. 85 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: Thirty touches, sixteen score involvements. He's a jet this bloke. Well, 86 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: you wonder if he could do much more. There just 87 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: happened to be one better of him on the weekend. 88 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: But he was superb forty one touches. He just makes 89 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: the game stop and then he finds a target when 90 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: no one thinks there's a target there. 91 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: And it was a joy to watch. 92 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 3: But this is as good as game as Chishop Petrarca's pike. 93 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: Someone accused me of hyperbole. No, I've seen every one 94 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: of them, and this is as good as I've seen 95 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: this boat play. He just you were there, Jerreedy jumped 96 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: out of the blocks. 97 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: Were you were watching? Are you worth it? Yeah? 98 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: He's kicking, clear, he did. 99 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: He's kicking with the thing. 100 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: As I said, I've watched all of his footy and 101 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: he was a bit of a bag. He's kicking was precise, 102 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: He hit targets, he kicked goals when they needed to 103 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: be kicked in the top it all off. The defensive 104 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: side of his game was superb. He chased down Max 105 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: Holmes of all people as well, So Christian Mtrauka could 106 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 3: not have started life as a son in any better shape. 107 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: All right, His coach will join us to talk about 108 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: all of that shortly. That is the very addition of 109 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: a very definition of most valuable the players. 110 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: You've just outlawed a pretty good group, all right, let's 111 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: get to it. 112 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: Top of the agenda, the amped up start to season 113 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, record breaking quarters, record breaking crowds. For 114 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: the most part is, for the most part, it was 115 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: great to have footy back, particularly given what happened to 116 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: the other star turn of the weekends. 117 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 6: Fun you just never know, you really don't know, like 118 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 6: tune your car up like the Grand Prix and you 119 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 6: just don't know what the racing will look like. Question 120 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 6: the warmer part seeks come. 121 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: And a champain superno a show pay soupero a. 122 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 6: Little bit more efficient than we would like, and we 123 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 6: were in efficient. 124 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 4: So they took their chances and we did it. 125 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 6: We got work today, so we're not We're not stepping 126 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 6: away from that hugely disappointed. 127 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: I know the boys were looking forward to. 128 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: Doing a hat better than that often happens in this game, 129 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: but we got all we deserved. 130 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 5: So they outworked us from the first start of the game. 131 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 5: We have no excuses to. 132 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: Put in that sort of work rate. 133 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: We won't be overreacting to you one performance. 134 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 5: We're going to be careful. 135 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: We don't make it bigger than it is. 136 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 5: But not our Bills are a good team. They played 137 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 5: very well last week against Hawthorne. They've got a lot 138 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 5: of star players in their team. When it was going 139 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 5: to be a hard game, but it was a hard game. 140 00:05:53,600 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: It was a great game. So do you and the 141 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: Swans make a statements to kick up the season in 142 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. 143 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: It would be a statement to beat all statements if 144 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: you beat the Kings of the Jungle in their jungles. 145 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: This is a fantastic result. 146 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: It's a fantastic game of footing. 147 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 6: A win for Western Parks, ladies and gentlemen. 148 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: You have a witnessed a classic on. 149 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: Your men or look, I don't know what it means, 150 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 4: but it's. 151 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: A good way to start the season. 152 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 6: Now. This is an opening round performance to take notus 153 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 6: of Christian Petrarca and the Suns could not have made 154 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 6: a better first impression. 155 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: And the Geno West Giants make a statement of their own. 156 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 5: They are too good. 157 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: They are too good. 158 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: And the Pies with their first win of the season. 159 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 6: You don't know what's in front of you because you 160 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 6: can't control a lot of stuff. And we came here 161 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 6: not knowing found out a bit that that system's pretty good. 162 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: So let's sift through the taster that we have just 163 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: had and start with. 164 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: The last winner Collingwood. 165 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: So underdogs, undermanned, underestimators, but there they were at their 166 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: professional best. 167 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: Just define the broad expectation. 168 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. 169 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: I think when you wake up this morning, you'd say, 170 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: were they really the underdog was going in and if 171 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: you trusted Collingwood more than you would have expected to win, 172 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: I think in the end, there was a lot of 173 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: talk around the Saints, and for all the talk, I mean, 174 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: they still have got much improvement to come if they 175 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: want to be genuine contenders. I think the players that 176 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: they've added a good debt players. Flanders is a debt 177 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: Fayre who could get better Ryan. It's got a long season, 178 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: so they've got a lot of of hope to try 179 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: that he can get through. He's best, He's good. I 180 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: thought the Carni was the best of the lot until Vane. 181 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: He's so solid down there. 182 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: But it's Philippoo and it's Wilson, and it's true that's 183 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: where the upside's going to come. And I mean this 184 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: is around my opening round. So I mean, I don't 185 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: know if Saints fans wake up today and think the 186 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: whole thing's out the window. 187 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: It's not. 188 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: If you're a realist, if you're an absolute. 189 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: Pragmatist, you go in and go, well, this is a 190 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: really organized Collingwood team and they completed more plays and 191 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: took more opportunities and that's a fundamental difference. And by 192 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: the end of it, so yeah, I don't think the 193 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 3: result is something that Saints fans should get overly concerned 194 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: about and from a Collingwood point of view, they did 195 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: it with a few players missing. The question will be 196 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: whether their young folks can come up and help drive 197 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: them back into a real, really solid finals campaign. But yeah, 198 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: I think it was a win for organized professionalism and 199 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: a group that have been together for quite a while. 200 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: So Nick Dekos, you have saluted there. 201 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: They use Scott Pendlebury so cleverly and he has impact 202 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: in his fifty three. 203 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 2: Percent of game time was immense. 204 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: Jordan Degoi, so when he struck, he struck hard, and 205 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: then they are just so clever under siege at various 206 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: stages in the last quarter when they had it, they 207 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: just knew how to pick their way around, and that 208 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: the uncontested mark game was sort of one of the 209 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: really interesting flags. Now, whether that's circumstance or whether that's 210 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: precisely what they're going to do, we'll find out. 211 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 3: Having watched all the footy over the weekend, and we 212 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 3: anticipated that speed and pace on the foot he was 213 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 3: going to be in the games that we did together, 214 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: games that we watched early. Certainly Sydney after halftime was 215 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: just breathtaking. I thought it was conservative in the first 216 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: half probably from both teams, and after halftime they did 217 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 3: take advantage of it Collingwood and started to open the 218 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: game up a little bit. So, I don't know it 219 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 3: was a great occasion. It was eighty ond thousand. I 220 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: don't think it was a great game, but it was 221 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: a great four points to be able to bank early 222 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 3: in the piece and not the end of the world 223 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: for the saying. 224 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: So sin Kilda had banged the drum literally and metaphorically. 225 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: They made a big occasion of it. 226 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: It was the unveiling of the new era and it 227 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: just fell a little bit flat for what you've said. 228 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: There's a few questions out of it, which are just 229 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: the start of conversations, not rushing to the end. The 230 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: forward line setup is not going to strike fear into 231 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: anyone until Max King is there, and then when is 232 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 1: that going to be. The young players you've referenced, for 233 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: all that have come in, it still swings on Philippo 234 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: and Wilson as to whether they're going to blossom. When 235 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: is that going to be? And the only question that 236 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: sits on those that they've brought in is are they 237 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: difference makers or are they just nice pieces that you 238 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: add just use the word depth. 239 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: They've recruited them to be more than that. Now it 240 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: was just a touch underwhelming. 241 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm not convinced they will be more than that. 242 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: And that's not a criticism of what they've done, because 243 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: I think it's made them their list better than what 244 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: it was. But whether that is good enough to really contend, 245 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: I've got my doubts. But there's something to throw back 246 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: at them. They've got Melbourne next week, which I think 247 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 3: is a more realisted Well, they are every chance to 248 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 3: win against Collingwood, but they should beat Melbourne on the 249 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: basis of what we're we're seeing on exposed form for 250 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: Melbourne have had a good preseason, so it's a good start. 251 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: It's a start for the Collingwood faithful that they'd be 252 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: thrilled with and Rossell get the. 253 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: Work Saturday night was pulsating. 254 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the first time of the first game 255 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: of the season ends up being the best. Is it 256 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: set a high watermark. So for the Bulldogs they have 257 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: been They have stumbled out of the gates at various 258 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: stages and sort of missed their moment to plant their flag. 259 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: They lived the journey last year, which we well know 260 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: they were the flag track bullies. They couldn't beat the 261 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: teams above them, So to step out and do it 262 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: against the defending champs, and to do it in the 263 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: manner that they did from twenty six points down. 264 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: What impression has it left you with? 265 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: No profound? 266 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: So I did that practice game in the week before 267 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: and they were taking it very seriously against Hawthorne, but 268 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: they carried that on. What I loved about its two 269 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: players I think symptomatica where they're at is English and Norton, 270 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: who at various stages have been all Australian. Norton had 271 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: a good year, kicked sixty goals, but he just had 272 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: a goal kick the games team by Darcy Ford, the 273 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: games in the balance, and this is what I love. 274 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: Just dig in here, take fort somewhere where he's uncomfortable. 275 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: There that moment there to me, because English was outstanding 276 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 3: last week and again this week was really important. That 277 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: moment said a bit and he kicks a really important 278 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: goal kicked too in the last quarter. And the other 279 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: one is Aaron Norton, who's just look at these efforts here. 280 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 3: Jared hadn't had a great night, so that's one he 281 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: doesn't lose his feet. That's two back at Harris Andrews 282 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: and this is in the balance and this is three 283 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 3: again turns the footy over ball ends up in English's 284 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: hand he kicks his second goal. So to me, the 285 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 3: message that we are told that they are banging the 286 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: drum really hard at is never give up tooth and ail. 287 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: All that sort of stuff was encapsulated in those plays 288 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: and they played like it. Twenty six points down against 289 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: the reigning premiere in Brisbane on opening night and they 290 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: kick eight of the next eleven goals and gee, they 291 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: got some value out of Jake's and Selwood was terrific. 292 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: Butterick was a great choice, so we know they got 293 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: top end. I didn't buy any of the nonsense that 294 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 3: they had the best list in the league last year. 295 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: I just wasn't buying it because the bottom part dropped 296 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 3: away on the form that was seeing here. I think 297 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: they make them better at the other end, which then 298 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: means that they're going to. 299 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: Be right there. 300 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: Bonton Pelli did his bit, you know the other side 301 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: of the corn locking near was unbelievable for the Brisbane 302 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: lines and Zorco was great, so it was a really 303 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 3: good go It was actually better than that. 304 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: It was a great game befo. 305 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: So Richard's ascension to be able to control the midfield 306 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: and what that means for Bonton Pali spinning forward when 307 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: the games on the line. 308 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, so coach wise, I thought Luke Beveridge had a 309 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 3: great night in the box because it was in the 310 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: balance and he was brave enough to take the man who's, 311 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 3: you know, many essay is the best player in the 312 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: camp and start him forward inside forward fifty And that 313 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: means that you've got to have faith. 314 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: In what you leave behind. And Ed Richard just steps 315 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: up and says, leave that to. 316 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: Me, and he's the best player on the ground and 317 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: Bonton Pally impacts enormously down here, and all of a sudden, Harris, 318 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 3: who's had a great night on Sandarsi but then he couldn't. 319 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: Darcy goes off and he's got bond and then BoNT 320 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: takes him somewhere he doesn't want to go, and this 321 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: is the end result. I mean, these are uplifting moments. 322 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: And we'll talk about coaches about this is this. 323 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: Is Luke Beveridge. 324 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: You know he knows a camp there. Yeah, you know 325 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 3: you're aware of that well, I'm assuming he's aware of that. 326 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: But this is more than Look, this is okay, we've 327 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: invested heavily in this. There's been a narrative around that 328 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: we can't take a big scale. Well, we've just taken 329 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 3: out the back to back Premiers at home. I after 330 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: giving up a twenty six point start, we've kicked eight 331 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: of eleven. Who's next with their. 332 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: Own expectations, right, So we're talking about the line's problems 333 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: in a minute. But it was meritorious and bath rain 334 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: and missing the soccer goal in the square and Charlie 335 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: Cameron who kicked everything, missing the snap that he would 336 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: kick nine times out of ten. They're right there again, 337 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: it's just thinking through how early this Premiership defense starts. 338 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: It was full of merit from them. 339 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: I said it straightaway that no one loses any respect 340 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: at all, and they threw plenty of big punches. I mean, 341 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: Luckie was fantastic, Zuko was fantastic. McCluggage is off the 342 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: ground inside five or ten minutes so and Charlie Cameron 343 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: was probably the best part on the ground in the 344 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: first half, in the best handful. 345 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: So this wasn't a. 346 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: Western Bulldogs victory over a Premier that coming off a 347 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: shortened pre season, which we look at Geelong on the 348 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: back of that before it's talk about at the moment 349 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: and they just didn't ready to play for whatever reason. Well, 350 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: Brisbane probably their depth and quality goes a bit deeper 351 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: than even the. 352 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: Cats and they were pretty pretty brave. 353 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: So last year they endured setback after setback, injury, tough fixture, 354 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: they absorbed it all and they prevailed at the end. 355 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: So they start with three suspensions and an injury, so 356 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: human cluggage is going to be short term, but he 357 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: was out of the game straight away and they're three suspensions, 358 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: so they'll go to the tribunal on two of these, 359 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: which is interesting. They've accepted Zach Bailey for the little 360 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: elbow going backwards, Tariss Andrews and Darcy Gardener. The Andrews 361 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: one is the So this is the first test case. 362 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: There is the capacity within the tribunal system now for 363 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: flexibility when there's a concussion that results it's been rightly 364 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: graded as severe and now we find out the push 365 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: and pull. 366 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: Where is the capacity to. 367 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: Argue this down from potentially three to two to one? 368 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: Is this the right case for it? 369 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: Is there what sort of culpability is there in the 370 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: swinging arm going back towards it's obviously careless, but what 371 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: layer of culpability comes without because the outcome is awful? 372 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: They've got this was a straight up fifty meter penalty 373 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: every time it happens, whether it's a suspension or not. 374 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: That's an interesting one if you drive the elbow forward 375 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: in such a way. But the Andrews one is the 376 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: one that every other club is going to be looking at, going, Okay, 377 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: what's the capacity within this news structure to be able 378 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: to argue something down from three to less? 379 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: And that will only evolve through case law. 380 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so your area more than mine on the night 381 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: if you throw your hand back and this look. We 382 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: talked about last week the gut punch, which was just 383 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: stupid that ended up getting a week, and this is 384 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: as stupid as that. So I'm sure Zach Barley sitting 385 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: at home tonight and just looking at that game, I 386 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: won't do that again. It's just an act of stupidity. 387 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: So on the night he throws the thing was he 388 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: looked back, and so Harris looks back and knows that 389 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: Ardie Jones is there, and so he does what. 390 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: All defenders need to do. 391 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: He tries to stop him from running on, but swings 392 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: it pretty forcefully. I don't think it's just I don't 393 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: think even it's intentional. But when the action goes like 394 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 3: that and you haven't got control over where you're going 395 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: to make contact, then you throw yourself at the hands 396 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 3: of the matrix I called it. And in these circumstances 397 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: you've knocked out a bloke. He's been concussed. So if 398 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: it's three weeks, that seems you know, at the top end, 399 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: I could live with two. 400 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: I think want to be cheap. Yeah, that's where I 401 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: see it. So how do they interpret it and apply it? 402 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: That's what we'll start to learn tomorrow. 403 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: Night from the losers. 404 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: And there are layers of concern and there are you know, 405 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: the odd Mulligan here or there who most concerned are 406 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: in the way that they lost. 407 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 3: Well the Hawks only in as much as I've got 408 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 3: greater expectations than I had. People say Carlton, surely, I 409 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: said no, No, I'll get to them in a moment, Hawthorn. 410 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: They could have got a signwrid out last year and 411 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: written across the skies of Melbourne we are short and 412 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: weak in our midfield, such was their chase and pursuit 413 00:17:59,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: of Zach Merritt. 414 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 4: So let's tell them the whole world what you know. 415 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: What we now know to be the case is that 416 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: their midfield depth isn't anywhere near where it needs to be, 417 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: although they went really deep into September last year. So 418 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 3: I don't haven't got a long long term concern. I've 419 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: got great faith in Mitchell and his ability to swing 420 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 3: that around. But this is the area where they're vulnerable 421 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: and when sam Day is not there, seeing where no 422 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: Sam Day is not there, and you're coming up against 423 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: sides that have got really strong deep midfields. The best 424 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: sides have got they about six seven eight deep yearod 425 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: so you know they bat Johan Yukomb and the rest 426 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 3: are you know, Warble gone. So then you're looking at 427 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: guys who've got to establish themselves and can you be 428 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 3: an AFL and lead midfielder? 429 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: Don't know war McDonald is, how high is you're learning? 430 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: How quickly can you develop in the midfield? 431 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the spark is Watson, can you get him 432 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: in there? And how long can he's play in there? 433 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 3: And you're taking someone away, So that's okay, they, as 434 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: I said, their actions told tell sorry, told the footy 435 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 3: world what we see on the weekend, and then it's 436 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: up to them to go and fix it. 437 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: And they were unusually disconnected in defense for Hawthorne team 438 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: as well, which I imagine is a rust. 439 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, bit of panic, a bit of panic which we 440 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 4: have seen from them for a while. And then the clients, 441 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 4: the Giants were bloody magnificent. 442 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: And that tells you that the coach has his team. Yeah, yeah, 443 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: so we've sort of seen a little bit of that 444 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: over the off season. 445 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's other thing, like the actual performances they are 446 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: up against it with personnel issues. 447 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: He's got his team. 448 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 4: I suspect it's coach and captain. Yeah, yeah, I do. 449 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 3: I think it's formidable. And they played like it, so 450 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: they that would be a victory that they cherished that one. 451 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: The Carlton side of the equation. 452 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm going to talk about this a lot 453 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 3: this year. It's the gap, right, it's the gap betoying 454 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: the two. So we sat here on Wednesday, we talked 455 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: about it and we said, listen, Sidney got six A 456 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: graders A grade players. Carlton have probably got three. And 457 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: then you look at the way the game's going. And 458 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: what you've got to be very hopeful for, because these 459 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: are long term investments, is you've got to hope that 460 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: your A graders are suited to modern day footy, the 461 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: footy that's played today, Jared, not the footy that's played 462 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: five years ago. 463 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: And this group is whereas the Blues A graders probably aren't. 464 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: And that's not a knock on a two time Brown 465 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: Lad medalist, because for the for the era, anyone knows 466 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: as good as good as anyone. And Walsh's saying Weathering's Weatering, 467 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: Weading plays as well, but Sammy Walsh's, you know, even 468 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: on the weekend fantastic, won his own footy. But he 469 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: doesn't hurt you as much when you look on the 470 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: other side. They were quiet and a half. The Swans 471 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 3: were quiet for half and then their A graders got 472 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: gone and they blew the game to smither rings in 473 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: a quarter because they're A graders fit modern day footy. 474 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 4: Two at Sea. 475 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: Yes, they run, they carry, they kill you by foot. 476 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 4: And they bang thirteen goals on in a row. 477 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: The young man who had adop this is not coople, Lord, 478 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 3: great young lad, and I thrilled for him. They do 479 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: nine touches half time, but that's it doesn't hurt yet 480 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 3: like the other group do. And that's not a knock 481 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: on Cooper. I hope he gets there, and he's just 482 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: starting in his career. But when the others do modern 483 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: day foot he says, is set up for Gold, and 484 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: it's set up for Warner, it's set up for Blaky, 485 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: it's set up any They are. 486 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: Right where they need to be. And so yeah, thirty goals. 487 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: I know all the who are about the way they play. 488 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 4: Carlton would know that. They they would know that. 489 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: But we might just go Sydney the best to a minute, 490 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: and in six or eight works you'll go, they're going 491 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: to blow a couple out of the water. It's the 492 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: gap between the best and they're. 493 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: Not all right. 494 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: You can tend to the gap throughout. The hype of 495 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: ventilating around Carlton has been ridiculous. When their fixture came out, 496 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: he looked at and go loss, win, win, win, So 497 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: Sydney and Sydney was always. 498 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: Going to be a loss. 499 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: Now the manner of the third quarter is troubling, yep, 500 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: and that is for them to address and attempt to rectify. 501 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: These are the three games that they have to step 502 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: through and win, and this is where you're much more 503 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: likely to see what they've been working on that you're 504 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: able to embed. So we've got tastes of it along 505 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: the way. But under the enormous pressure that Sydney were 506 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: able to provide in the third quarter and they got 507 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: stuck in a forty minute quarter, it was like spending 508 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: six months in a leaking boat. 509 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: They could do nothing as that unfolded. 510 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: So judge them on these next three games, which we 511 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: fully expect them to win, rather than hyper ventilating. And 512 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: if you were only up for three quarters of a season, 513 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: then you were never in for the fight. If you've 514 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: tossed the toys out of the cut after three quarters, 515 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: you were never truly in for the fight. 516 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: So let's see it. 517 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: Go about and win these next three and give a 518 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: better display of what you've been working on in the 519 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: progress that you made against. 520 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: The light for like, and then find your place. They're 521 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: going to be in the lower reaches. They have set 522 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: up to be in the lower reaches. 523 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: They are developing their list at the moment they sold 524 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: their high end talent for the future, they're going to 525 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: develop these two number three picks and they're probably going 526 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: to have the number one pick next year, and then 527 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: bring them along. If you think they are going to 528 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: be successful this year, you have deluded yourself into a 529 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: state of frenzy, at which point you become a vandal. 530 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, an unrealistic one. It loses all sense of perspective. 531 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: It is what you invest in. You invest in what 532 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 3: you want as a Carlton supporter, just we're telling you, 533 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: as non Carton supporters that watch a lot of footy, 534 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: invest your passions in Jaggersmith and the boy Dean in 535 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: the back half and that is what you're going to 536 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: add to over the summer months and hope along the 537 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: way that the game style you'll get split open again 538 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: by the best teams. 539 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 4: I'll promise you that. 540 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: But against these next three then you've got every right 541 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: to go along with a great expectation. But don't throw 542 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: the tours out of the cot on the back of 543 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: what happened on Thursday night because Sydney might just be that. 544 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: Good hobby horses. 545 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: So you think the season starts too early, I do 546 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: think we have to start on this long weekend. 547 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: But the game lengths. I agree with you, fifth of March. Yeah, 548 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: we've got to get joking, get out, get going, get moving. 549 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 4: It's a thirty week season. 550 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: And then as a result, we had a weekend a 551 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 3: footy where we played extra two or two minutes. 552 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: This was this was a little bit troubling just how 553 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: long these games were. 554 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: I'll concede you the fifth of March. Can we get 555 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 4: the games shorter? 556 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to require more than a little nip 557 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: and tuck. You're going to have to have it's going 558 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: to have to have really directed surgery as to what 559 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: comes out of the game to reduce. 560 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: And the games were quick. The games were quick, and 561 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 3: they were picnic, and they were moving. And I know 562 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: that the quarters probably benefitted or not, probably has been 563 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: affected by what the Swans were doing. 564 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: But she's an early start. We'll start at Christmas. Let's 565 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 4: get it. Let's get a real job, a real job 566 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: to go up against the boxing day test. 567 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: All right, let's run some of this fast. Our coaches 568 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: on gen shall we. 569 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: Damien Harvick knows how to build a successful program, and 570 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: we're all taken with how the Sons look first ups 571 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: and the Gold Coast with Damien and Brad Scott's had 572 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: to cool his gets through the long weekends. The Bombers 573 00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: get their first look at Beas on Friday nights, calling 574 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: Well flows that to love my Mind