Speaker 1: From the sky Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to the show big one we had for
Speaker 2: you this Thursday night.
Speaker 1: The Queensland election is just weeks away.
Speaker 2: And just finishing over on Channel nine was the Leader's Debate.
Speaker 2: Now there will be a People's Forum in the final
Speaker 2: week of the campaign. But it was fascinating to see
Speaker 2: the two leaders taking on each other, one we are
Speaker 2: told is the inevitable winner of the election, one with
Speaker 2: no chance of winning the election. It was fascinating to
Speaker 2: watch them go back and forth and do what they do.
Speaker 2: But interestingly today Stephen Miles didn't have a fantastic day
Speaker 2: on the campaign trail. In fact, when he was standing
Speaker 2: next to somebody that he would like to get another
Speaker 2: four years in the parliament, he completely forgot who the
Speaker 2: candidate was.
Speaker 1: I don't have that detail in front of me. Fat
Speaker 1: means that years to day. Susan, Yeah, of course it's Susan.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was with her the other nights. Okay. Now, as
Speaker 1: for the actual debate again over on Channel nine.
Speaker 2: Interesting to see the different tax that people took when
Speaker 2: they were asking the questions. I thought Sophie for Micah,
Speaker 2: particularly from four BC, was an absolute star. She has
Speaker 2: been on Telly for a long time, but now she's
Speaker 2: doing afternoons on four BC. Great listen if you're ever
Speaker 2: in town. But I thought she was particularly good with
Speaker 2: her questioning the state political reporter for Channel nine. I
Speaker 2: think was sort of going for the grabs and the
Speaker 2: lefty from the Brisbane Times. Well, okay, but let's talk
Speaker 2: here about a couple of things that took place. Now
Speaker 2: Stephen Miles, obviously as the man behind, is trying to
Speaker 2: do something to put doubt back into voters' minds. Now,
Speaker 2: anyone who has lived in Queensland has seen this government
Speaker 2: over not just the past four years, but the couple
Speaker 2: of terms before that. No, that virtually every indicy has
Speaker 2: got worse. Everyone knows, as we've talked about about hospital ramping,
Speaker 2: the worst in the country and the worst in the
Speaker 2: state's history. We know that youth crime is particularly out
Speaker 2: of control. So this bloke is trying to change the subject.
Speaker 2: So he's trying to twist and turn to pretend that
Speaker 2: the euthanasia laws in Queensland will secretly be changed by
Speaker 2: the opposition. Watch how the thing plays out and how crucifully,
Speaker 2: in my view, hits it out.
Speaker 1: Of the park.
Speaker 4: I can assure you we don't have plans to make
Speaker 4: those changes.
Speaker 5: These are the kinds of weasel words we get from David.
Speaker 5: Don't have plans to Okay, I mean something different, will
Speaker 5: not happen.
Speaker 4: May I do better? This will not happen, will not happen.
Speaker 1: You can't guarantee that.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, I say you're not going to have
Speaker 5: a conscience vote if there's a private members.
Speaker 1: Will not happen.
Speaker 4: You can't go Well, you asked me to say it,
Speaker 4: so I did, and then you're still.
Speaker 5: Not So your beliefs have changed?
Speaker 1: Has that happened? Have your beliefs changed?
Speaker 4: It is not part of our plan. It will not happen.
Speaker 1: What matters help your values and what you believe.
Speaker 4: Well, our focus is fixing the mess you've created.
Speaker 2: Extraordinary Right now, every MP had a conscience vote. Chrus
Speaker 2: fully voted against what ended up being the majority position.
Speaker 2: He has said there will be no change, but that's.
Speaker 1: Not good enough.
Speaker 2: That of course will now he clipped up and thrown
Speaker 2: around TikTok and again get a good run in the
Speaker 2: bruceban times. But still pretty obvious there about who is
Speaker 2: desperate and who is confident. Always good to hear a
Speaker 2: politician speak confidently in a leader's debate. I think that
Speaker 2: one of the best moments I've ever seen in leader's
Speaker 2: debates was the People's Forum South Australia when Peter Malanowskis
Speaker 2: was laid down Missaire going to win that state election.
Speaker 2: He was asked about cost of living and he was
Speaker 2: asked about government getting involved in the cost and prices
Speaker 2: of things. Now, the easy small target slam dunk was
Speaker 2: to say yes, absolutely, I will.
Speaker 1: It's dead.
Speaker 2: He turned around and he said very clearly that there's
Speaker 2: a limit to what a government can do. Now, this
Speaker 2: is not what alberanize he did. Hence why Albanese is
Speaker 2: in the world of trouble that.
Speaker 1: He is in right now.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that we're getting a rival for that
Speaker 2: moment out of David crucifully because when they're talking about crime,
Speaker 2: he made an absolute guarantee that he would hold himself
Speaker 2: responsible if his government fails to deliver what most Queenslands
Speaker 2: want most Queenslanders want, which is a substantial reduction in
Speaker 2: the number of the victims of crime.
Speaker 1: But here is part of the exchange in and around
Speaker 1: crime tonight, just in front of Queenslanders tonight.
Speaker 6: You've given that commitment to resign if you do not
Speaker 6: achieve that metric, by what date will you achieve that
Speaker 6: metric or resigners Premier Tim, We'll be setting targets for
Speaker 6: fewer victims year on year and that is important to
Speaker 6: me ultimately, and ultimately, if there aren't fewer victims, Queenslanders
Speaker 6: would make their own assessment on me, as they have
Speaker 6: made on this government. They have had enough of the
Speaker 6: broken promises. And I'm serious about it, and I'm not
Speaker 6: giving myself any regal room. It's victim numbers. It's not
Speaker 6: number of unique offenses and what happens on a Wednesday
Speaker 6: and how many young people repeat. It's victim numbers.
Speaker 4: How many people have had their life torn apart.
Speaker 2: And the promise is if he fails to deliver on
Speaker 2: what Queenslanders expect him to deliver, that he would resign
Speaker 2: before the next election. Now that again is confidence in
Speaker 2: your ability to actually deal with a problem, and it's
Speaker 2: a consequence if you don't something. Stephen Miles obviously would
Speaker 2: go nowhere near something that people like Palichet would go
Speaker 2: nowhere near. And I thought that was a pretty good
Speaker 2: moment for David Crucifully. Now, of course my bias in this,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to pretend not. I think the Labour
Speaker 2: Party has been horrific for Queensland. I think its current
Speaker 2: premiere is absolutely not fit for purpose, and the previous
Speaker 2: premiere well, I've had plenty to say about her and
Speaker 2: the failure of her government. A very good feature in
Speaker 2: the Channel nine debate tonight, despite the fact the backgrounds terrible, right,
Speaker 2: terrible backgrounds. You think somebody would be able to stop
Speaker 2: the strobing.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. That's not a technical problem on our end.
Speaker 2: It's because they were standing in front of basically sort
Speaker 2: of giant led screens that for some reason were strobing,
Speaker 2: So I'm sorry. Premier then decided to wear a strobing tie,
Speaker 2: all of which perhaps is one of the reasons I've
Speaker 2: got a light sensitive of migraine tonight. But they were
Speaker 2: asked to ask a question of each other, and this
Speaker 2: is always interesting I think happen at every debate because
Speaker 2: it means the key hit that you want to deliver
Speaker 2: to your opposition you were able to do so if
Speaker 2: it hasn't already come up with the journalists.
Speaker 1: Crucid fully to Miles.
Speaker 6: Premiere in twenty fifteen, the government boasted about weakening the
Speaker 6: youth justice laws. On the back of it, Queensland has
Speaker 6: seen a generation of untouchables, young repeat offenders, more victim
Speaker 6: numbers than anywhere else. Why did you take that decision
Speaker 6: and do you regret making it?
Speaker 5: Well, David, as you know, anyone who pretends it's as
Speaker 5: simple as one decision and can be fixed as simply
Speaker 5: as one forward slogan is just being dishonest with Queenslanders.
Speaker 1: Miles to crucifully Labor.
Speaker 5: Released our costings before the election campaign. You've made billions
Speaker 5: of dollars of commitments, but you haven't told Queenslanders how
Speaker 5: you will fund them. On Tuesday you'll receiver briefing from
Speaker 5: the Treasury with a current budget position. Will you tell
Speaker 5: Queenslanders how your fund your promises before they start voting
Speaker 5: Monday week?
Speaker 4: How plans are fully costed and fully funded?
Speaker 6: And you know that, And I mentioned well, we have
Speaker 6: on every one, every policy we have taken down to
Speaker 6: the dollar, we have shown Queenslanders what it's going to cost.
Speaker 2: The result was clear to me. The election seems like
Speaker 2: it is clear as well. However, as soon as the
Speaker 2: assumption is that one thing is going to happen. Strange
Speaker 2: things can happen now inevitably over the election campaign, Labor
Speaker 2: will ever so slightly start to tick up, the LMP
Speaker 2: will ever so slightly start to tick down. That in
Speaker 2: and of itself creates a certain series of narratives. But
Speaker 2: two things I've got to quickly say to people whom
Speaker 2: I love in Queensland. Don't assume somebody else is going
Speaker 2: to do the job for you. It is your job,
Speaker 2: in my view, to change the government, and that, in
Speaker 2: my view is very clear and very obvious. The second
Speaker 2: thing is that your preferences matter, and in actual fact
Speaker 2: the preference system has now been locked in. It's one
Speaker 2: of the meaning little fiddles that the Labor Party have
Speaker 2: done since they have come into power, along with changing
Speaker 2: the election spending laws, so unions are able to tip
Speaker 2: in money for the political party that they are already
Speaker 2: members of, that being the Labor Party, as independent or
Speaker 2: third party people. There are more than a dozen of
Speaker 2: those unions, so it means that at various times the
Speaker 2: unions will be able to spend up to ten times
Speaker 2: more than a political party at this election. In certain
Speaker 2: seats there are lots of lies that are being pushed around.
Speaker 2: All I say is this Coenslade over the past four
Speaker 2: years has gone backwards in my view. Who went backwards
Speaker 2: in the many years before that after the change to
Speaker 2: this labor government. They are very good at politics, they
Speaker 2: are very good at media management, they are very good
Speaker 2: at working the stories behind the scenes. But all I
Speaker 2: say is, if you know somebody who has been a
Speaker 2: victim of crime, you've got to change the government. If
Speaker 2: you know somebody who has spent too long in the
Speaker 2: back of a hospital, you need to change the government.
Speaker 2: If you want people who are willing to hold themselves
Speaker 2: to account rather than weasel words and find their way
Speaker 2: to get out of a promise they're previously made, you
Speaker 2: must change the government because more of the same will
Speaker 2: not be good for Queensland. Now, speaking of Queensland, a
Speaker 2: beautiful baby Luca. Now, of course he was the victim
Speaker 2: of that horrific scolding where the hot liquid was poured
Speaker 2: upon him. He's a beautiful little boy and he's back
Speaker 2: in the news tonight because there's a teensy bit more
Speaker 2: information that we are starting to learn about the person
Speaker 2: who police believe is responsible here Sadly, the story in
Speaker 2: and around lucas that he is going to have some
Speaker 2: lifelong injuries and consequences as a result of how significant
Speaker 2: that the burns were. But I want to offer nothing
Speaker 2: but strength and love to that little man and to
Speaker 2: his wonderful parents.
Speaker 1: Now, you know, the only.
Speaker 2: Footage that we've got was sort of a quick little
Speaker 2: CCTV moment of somebody who was running from the scene.
Speaker 2: The still version of that photo was when I think
Speaker 2: somebody was at a bus stop, said multiple times before.
Speaker 2: The absurdity of the situation right now is police know
Speaker 2: the name of that person. Now police have told us
Speaker 2: that this person has apparently fled the country. We have
Speaker 2: learned that this person was on a student visa and
Speaker 2: most likely the country that he has gone back to
Speaker 2: in China is not a place that's going to be
Speaker 2: particularly easy.
Speaker 1: For anyone to be found, let alone for anyone to.
Speaker 2: Be extradited, because of course Australia understandably does not want
Speaker 2: a reciprocal system where if China wants to go after somebody,
Speaker 2: they can nab them off the streets here. But the
Speaker 2: identity of this man should be known. But because Luca
Speaker 2: is clearly under the age of eighteen and is described as.
Speaker 1: A victim who is therefore a youth.
Speaker 2: Then you're not able to identify the person who police
Speaker 2: believe responsible or may will end up being charged because
Speaker 2: that somehow will identify Luca. Now his parents have identified him,
Speaker 2: other people in the media have decided to say what
Speaker 2: Luca's name is. So I'm more than happy to sit
Speaker 2: in that place. We should know who this person is,
Speaker 2: and for a brief moment today there were people who
Speaker 2: did know. Outside of the law enforcement that is trying
Speaker 2: to find this piece of work. A Facebook page was
Speaker 2: posted in an international news story. We have hidden some
Speaker 2: of the detail here because again I don't want to
Speaker 2: end up in a scenario where we are going to
Speaker 2: make it any easier for this person to not end
Speaker 2: up with the potential full consequences of the law. Now, interestingly,
Speaker 2: police were on four BC today talking about this Facebook post.
Speaker 2: I can show it. I think we can now the
Speaker 2: Facebook post. Again, we've blurred out to any other references
Speaker 2: to his name. Well, this was police speaking about the
Speaker 2: information that is around on the internet tonight. But again
Speaker 2: they can't talk about officially because of what I've just identified,
Speaker 2: where you cannot identify the victim of a crime, a
Speaker 2: person under the age of eighteen.
Speaker 1: So things are registraction to the investigation. But we're very
Speaker 1: much committed to finding the individual responsible.
Speaker 2: But one thing I can show you is a way
Speaker 2: that you can help Lucas family. Now, we know we're
Speaker 2: all doing it tough and lots of people are having
Speaker 2: their great difficulties at the moment when it comes to
Speaker 2: cost of living. So I have no expectation that people
Speaker 2: have got lazy thousand dollars down the back of the couch.
Speaker 2: They do have a go fundme, Paige. It is to
Speaker 2: help pay for his medical rehabilitation. Okay, if you would
Speaker 2: like to go to that site, it is GoFundMe dot
Speaker 2: com forward slash f forard slash Baby Lucas Medical Treatments.
Speaker 2: So just if you simply search baby Luca's medical treatments
Speaker 2: and the words go fund me, and I know go
Speaker 2: fund me in the past has some people have issues
Speaker 2: with this particular fundraising site, but it is the main one.
Speaker 2: It is endorsed by the family, and I like that
Speaker 2: number to be as high as possible, as fast as possible.
Speaker 2: If you can help out this little mate, because the
Speaker 2: fact that the person whom police believe is responsible is
Speaker 2: no closer to being court means justice may not be on.
Speaker 1: Its way, but certainly the love of Australia always is. Then.
Speaker 2: A bit more breaking news that's happening this evening is
Speaker 2: in relation to protest movements which were planned in and
Speaker 2: around the anniversary of October seventh. Now you know that
Speaker 2: last weekend things got particularly out of control when not
Speaker 2: the movement for Palestine, but people taking to the streets
Speaker 2: to mourn the death of the head of Hezbollah, who
Speaker 2: of course is listed as a terrorist organization in this
Speaker 2: country because of its atrocities around the world. It is
Speaker 2: of course not supported by the people of Lebanon. It
Speaker 2: is not supported by the government of Lebanon. It is
Speaker 2: well and truly an organization that, as I said, qualifies
Speaker 2: in every way in my mind for terrorism. But we
Speaker 2: have people that are willing to mourn the death of
Speaker 2: its leader publicly. We have people who are willing to
Speaker 2: take to the streets wearing the paraphernalia that is in
Speaker 2: support of said listed terrorist organization. And we've had the
Speaker 2: chat all week about who's going to be charged and
Speaker 2: if they get charged, what's the likelihood of anyone actually
Speaker 2: going to remember, maximum is twelve months in jail. Maximum
Speaker 2: fine in one state in New South Wales is about
Speaker 2: eleven thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: So the minimums, most.
Speaker 2: Likely which don't exist, will will be decided by a
Speaker 2: judiciary which we have seen many times before when it
Speaker 2: comes to things like climate protests are not as tough
Speaker 2: as you and I would like them to be. Well,
Speaker 2: today in the Supreme Court in New South Wales, back
Speaker 2: and forth about whether or not a protest that is
Speaker 2: planned for this weekend can go ahead. Now this is
Speaker 2: one that is being run by the same people who
Speaker 2: have run a weekly protest in support of the people
Speaker 2: of Palestine. Now at times, fringes on the edges of
Speaker 2: these groups, frankly, have got a little bit to two
Speaker 2: pro hamas rather than focus on the innocent civilians that
Speaker 2: have been affected over the past twelve months. And I've
Speaker 2: had plenty to say about all of that. Now there
Speaker 2: should not be, and I mean there should not be
Speaker 2: any sort of opportunity of a public gathering for people
Speaker 2: to latch onto it on the fringes who will end
Speaker 2: up doing the propaganda.
Speaker 1: Bidding of hamas.
Speaker 2: On the very weekend when the Jewish community, of course,
Speaker 2: is looking back on what has happened to them twelve
Speaker 2: months ago. Now, it being a public holiday long weekend
Speaker 2: most parts of the country, there would be an expectation
Speaker 2: that if there was a protest a lot more people
Speaker 2: will be turning up now. The premiere of New South
Speaker 2: Wales has made it very clear earlier in the week
Speaker 2: he didn't want this to happen at all.
Speaker 3: It was a difficult decision, but we believe the right
Speaker 3: decision in the circumstances. At the end of the day,
Speaker 3: the police didn't believe that the march and protest could
Speaker 3: be done safely on Sydney streets and as a result
Speaker 3: they believe they had no alternative but to make that
Speaker 3: application in the Supreme Court. I want to make it
Speaker 3: clear we completely support police's decision in relation to that application.
Speaker 2: So the government says no, not the right time. We
Speaker 2: understand you've got fifty You've done this for the best
Speaker 2: part of a year. There has been very limited problems,
Speaker 2: but right now, for obvious reasons, tensions are heightened. We
Speaker 2: have seen people on the very same streets of the
Speaker 2: very same city who may well try to glom on
Speaker 2: to that organization. And to that protest, so therefore best
Speaker 2: not to have it. We've seen the police say exactly
Speaker 2: the same thing as I say. Supreme Court today was
Speaker 2: where all of this was being fought out. Well, the
Speaker 2: breaking news tonight is it's going to happen, and not
Speaker 2: because a court has ruled, but because a deal has
Speaker 2: now been done between the upper echelons of the Nisibas
Speaker 2: police and the people who will be marching through the
Speaker 2: streets on Saturday in Sydney.
Speaker 7: The eleventh hour and during this three hour hearing, an
Speaker 7: associate of the defense team passed on a message that
Speaker 7: an agreement had been reached behind closed doors. There'll be
Speaker 7: a slight modification to the path protesters will march on
Speaker 7: Sunday through the city, avoiding that synagogue along Park Street
Speaker 7: and instead turning down Pitt Street and then Market Street. Now,
Speaker 7: organizers are expecting around five thousand people here, but police
Speaker 7: say it could be close to to fifteen thousand. But
Speaker 7: organizers are adamant that that one day vigil will be
Speaker 7: smaller and it will be peaceful.
Speaker 1: Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Now, this is an absolute capitulation, and a piece week
Speaker 2: one at that by the upper echelons at the news
Speaker 2: was police force. And while the show is absolutely pro cop,
Speaker 2: you know how pro cop I am. When the decisions
Speaker 2: are being made to essentially roll the dice and see
Speaker 2: what happens here, well, this is not acceptable.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The reason why they were able to come to the
Speaker 2: dealer is, as you just heard that the protest route
Speaker 2: will be slightly different. It will not go past a
Speaker 2: significant synagogue in the heart of Sydney, but people will
Speaker 2: be free to march, they will be free to speak,
Speaker 2: and there of course will be a major gathering which
Speaker 2: has always happened over the past year in and around
Speaker 2: Hyde Park. But police at the upper echelons have got
Speaker 2: form here and we know that there is one way
Speaker 2: to handle things, and there is another way to handle things.
Speaker 2: Remember when things happened in and around the Opera House
Speaker 2: in the days after October seventh. Now this was before
Speaker 2: Israel had responded to what had happened on October the seventh,
Speaker 2: So this was just flat out celebration of Hamas and
Speaker 2: what he had done on October the seventh.
Speaker 8: Now you know.
Speaker 2: How aggressive I have been about these forms of protest,
Speaker 2: not the majority of the protests which have happened over
Speaker 2: the past twelve months. But that type of protest where
Speaker 2: what we all heard with our own ears was of
Speaker 2: course pushed back the other way, and you didn't hear that.
Speaker 2: But apparently where's the jews were somehow better than what
Speaker 2: we all assumed had happened at the start of this situation.
Speaker 2: Now that protest did not start at the Opera House.
Speaker 2: That embarrassment did not happen at the Opera House alone.
Speaker 2: Earlier that day, there was earlier, about half an hour
Speaker 2: before all of that, there was a meeting at town Hall.
Speaker 2: Now town Hall was where the meeting had took place,
Speaker 2: but there was no approval for a protest. Now police
Speaker 2: have shown multiple time to the past that they are
Speaker 2: willing to push back if you do not have the
Speaker 2: permit to go marching through the streets and disturbing central
Speaker 2: business district of Sydney. But this is what police said
Speaker 2: at the time about why the people who ended up
Speaker 2: doing what they did in the disgraceful fashion that they
Speaker 2: did at the Opera House were allowed to move thirty
Speaker 2: minutes in a march from town Hall down George Street
Speaker 2: and then over to the Opera House.
Speaker 9: Best option for police was to manage the movement of
Speaker 9: those people from Sydney Town Hall to the Opera House,
Speaker 9: to ensure that we were able to control the movement
Speaker 9: of the people and get them to a place where
Speaker 9: we could manage the rally in its form, and to
Speaker 9: prevent the risk of conflict.
Speaker 2: See that's the whole point, right because the expectation is
Speaker 2: is that, oh, this crab might be too hard to hand,
Speaker 2: or they might push back harder than other groups that
Speaker 2: are told they're not allowed to move around, then somehow
Speaker 2: they can kind of do what they want. Seems like
Speaker 2: it is going to be the conclusion about what may
Speaker 2: be happening this weekend.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I hope that any and everyone who has been part
Speaker 2: of what has been happening for the past fifty two
Speaker 2: weeks is able to make sure that the people who
Speaker 2: turn up are not the ones who are the same
Speaker 2: ones that were turning up last weekend.
Speaker 1: The pressure is on them to achieve it.
Speaker 2: But as Peter Kreblin has been beautifully pointing out, there's
Speaker 2: a very different standard. We all know that when everyone
Speaker 2: was locked inside their house and the greatest crime that
Speaker 2: anyone was going to commit was leaving their house, police
Speaker 2: responded very differently, very aggressively.
Speaker 1: Because they wanted to enforce the law and you remember
Speaker 1: how that looked.
Speaker 2: Media And despite the fact that there should have been
Speaker 2: a ruling today and as part of the conversation that
Speaker 2: meant they were able to come up with this deal
Speaker 2: to say, hey, you do what you do. As I
Speaker 2: pointed out before the News of Wales and Victoria police
Speaker 2: both have a policy that if police have to go
Speaker 2: somewhere because there's going to be a protest, it's going
Speaker 2: to get out of control, even though there is no
Speaker 2: plan for what you're planning to do to be the
Speaker 2: out of control event like as we spoke about, yes,
Speaker 2: provocative figures, but still people like Malo Yuanopolis and Nigel
Speaker 2: Farage they had speaking to us. But because the expectation
Speaker 2: was that none of their supporters, but people who wanted
Speaker 2: to stop them from turning up, were going to have
Speaker 2: some sort of a mini riot, a bill was sent
Speaker 2: to the promoters of the event, not to the rioters,
Speaker 2: but to the promoters of the event. Is that at
Speaker 2: all on the table for what is about to happen
Speaker 2: on Saturday? Sure you can do what you'll do, but
Speaker 2: we're going to send you the bill, of course.
Speaker 1: Not why I don't know. I truly don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to think the worst of peace, but
Speaker 2: it's difficult not to when you can turn around and
Speaker 2: send a bill a Nigel Farage, you can send a
Speaker 2: bill to people who are openly saying, and had been
Speaker 2: all week in the media, we don't even care whether
Speaker 2: we can officially do this or not. We're doing it anyway,
Speaker 2: Which brings me to the Prime Minister. So Albo was
Speaker 2: on the radio today in Brisbane, you know, hard hitting
Speaker 2: staff where he was among other things, and this became
Speaker 2: a news story today. He was talking about the diet
Speaker 2: ahead of his wedding that of course has.
Speaker 1: Been delayed until after the election. Right, No, but we
Speaker 1: can still keep talking about it, mainly on a fish diet.
Speaker 8: At the moment, I'm trying to do the right thing.
Speaker 8: I'd lost at quite a few kilos when I became
Speaker 8: Labor leader, and then I had You might recall my
Speaker 8: car accident a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: That was a bit of a wake up call to
Speaker 1: gain fit.
Speaker 8: So it's all about what you're eat but also getting
Speaker 8: a little bit of exercise.
Speaker 2: But the Prime Minister's big policy announcement today was when
Speaker 2: it comes to supermarkets and he claims that they're going
Speaker 2: to be able to deal with a thing called shrink flation.
Speaker 2: We're put simply, you are paying the same amount for
Speaker 2: a packet, even though there may be less in the
Speaker 2: packet than there was six months twelve months ago. The
Speaker 2: idea government is involved with this is just mind boggling.
Speaker 2: But here's the Prime Minister trying to explain this dumb idea.
Speaker 8: Will introduce legislation this year is to make the Food
Speaker 8: and Grocery Code mandatory. It was voluntary, it was all
Speaker 8: up to the goodwill essentially a big supermarkets. But we're
Speaker 8: going to mandate it and that will mean that there
Speaker 8: are multimillion dollar penalties for serious breaches.
Speaker 2: Seriously, now, again, the concept of shrinkflation. It annoys me
Speaker 2: as a consumer as much as it does anyone else. Right,
Speaker 2: a packet of this used to cost that and now
Speaker 2: is less, but it still costs that, or it maybe
Speaker 2: costs a little bit more.
Speaker 1: That annoys me. It absolutely annoys me.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to have to say the unpopular bit
Speaker 2: now because it is the actual context of things here,
Speaker 2: and they coming to the defense of some of the
Speaker 2: stuff that the supermarkets have done. Hell no, right, but
Speaker 2: can we all please grow up a little bit.
Speaker 1: The idea that the.
Speaker 2: Supermarket gets whatever they're selling in the supermarket for free
Speaker 2: and then it just decides to just add a little
Speaker 2: bit of fat because they.
Speaker 1: Want to is garbage.
Speaker 2: The cost of goods is dependent on what the person
Speaker 2: whom you are buying them from decides. So let's imagine
Speaker 2: it's a packet of chips. Well, the packet of chips
Speaker 2: is purchased from the person who makes the packet of chips,
Speaker 2: and then it is sold in the supermarket. Yes, it
Speaker 2: is not sold for the exact amount of money that
Speaker 2: the packet of chips was brought from the wholesaler for,
Speaker 2: because they see they have to actually do a thing
Speaker 2: which is called deliver a profit. Why because that's the
Speaker 2: reason their business exists. And two Australians have been told
Speaker 2: for a generation that we must have superannuation funds. Superannuation
Speaker 2: funds often buy shares in companies like the supermarkets because
Speaker 2: they're stable and they're forever going to grow because more
Speaker 2: people need to buy more stuff. But equally so, the
Speaker 2: cost of being the supermarket is not the same as
Speaker 2: it was six months ago or twelve months ago or
Speaker 2: five years ago. Now, you see, they don't automatically if
Speaker 2: it's in a shopping center paying no rent. They may
Speaker 2: pay less rent than other people, but they still have
Speaker 2: to pay rent. They have to pay power bills, which
Speaker 2: as we know, for a small business, could be tens
Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars. Imagine what it's like for something
Speaker 2: that has to keep all those lights on all that time,
Speaker 2: and all the fridges. Okay, and then there's of course
Speaker 2: the people who work for you, who, due to industrial
Speaker 2: decisions or deals you've been able to do with unions
Speaker 2: or they may be being paid more than they were
Speaker 2: being paid six months ago, twelve months ago. That's why
Speaker 2: things in part go up because the cost of making them,
Speaker 2: the cost of transporting them, and the cost of the
Speaker 2: facility in which they are sold.
Speaker 1: The costs of that go up.
Speaker 2: Now, if you put it up way too high just
Speaker 2: to keep making ever growing profits, you're going to have
Speaker 2: some problems. But the idea the Prime Minister is lying
Speaker 2: to people on Brisbane radio today that somehow magically the
Speaker 2: cost of the packet of chips is going to go
Speaker 2: down because he'll go after the supermarkets for how much
Speaker 2: they charge, when of course they're not totally in control
Speaker 2: of what the cost of the good is. But then again,
Speaker 2: explaining all of that takes too long, doesn't it. And
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister knows that there are plenty of people
Speaker 2: in the media that will be more interested in about
Speaker 2: how he's shredding for his delayed wedding than whether some
Speaker 2: of the policies of his own government, including extra and
Speaker 2: increased taxes on the very trucks that move the things
Speaker 2: around between the farm and the supermarket.
Speaker 1: But of course that would just be too boring, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2: Greens are in trouble today, are interesting reporting in and
Speaker 2: around one of their specific senators who has taken over
Speaker 2: as the Indigenous affairs spokesperson after Lydia Thorpepaule the pin.
Speaker 2: Her name is Derindra Cox. Jaseph Solin writes today the
Speaker 2: twenty staff have left the Greens senator's office in just
Speaker 2: three years, several of Lodge's formal complaints alleging that the
Speaker 2: hostile culture made them feel unsafe. The newspaper has obtained
Speaker 2: a copy of a formal complaint that had been made
Speaker 2: by a former staff member of the Parliament's.
Speaker 1: Workplace Support Service.
Speaker 2: It was also handed on to Adam Bandt as the
Speaker 2: leader of the party, and this apparently had happened in
Speaker 2: mid twenty twenty one. It details several incidences of staff
Speaker 2: crying and becoming distressed after confrontations with the senator. Now, interestingly,
Speaker 2: Adam BANMDB doing a press conference today and somebody actually
Speaker 2: decided to ask him a tough question. Watch what happens
Speaker 2: when Adam Bant has asked a question about what he knew,
Speaker 2: when he knew and what he plans to do about
Speaker 2: a member of staff who has these complaints being made
Speaker 2: against them.
Speaker 1: Then of course, of course we will take these on board. Well,
Speaker 1: it's up to this is the system that has been
Speaker 1: set up. Thanks everyone for the things stay.
Speaker 10: It's a great.
Speaker 2: Oh, such accountability. There's so much better than all those
Speaker 2: other political parties, aren't they.
Speaker 1: Speaking of?
Speaker 2: Can we talk about the Victorian Liberal Party? Now, I
Speaker 2: won't get into the weeds because they are very weedy
Speaker 2: when it comes to all matters in and around the
Speaker 2: former Liberal MP the current Liberal leader. But again, if
Speaker 2: you're following along, you know what's happening. So I'm just
Speaker 2: going to assume that you are across the nature of
Speaker 2: what all of this is about. But one thing that
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about here is that multiple times
Speaker 2: during the proceedings thus far, there have been current former
Speaker 2: members of the party that are kind of openly call
Speaker 2: with the idea that members of the party are recording
Speaker 2: each other when having private meetings. Now, this stuff is madness.
Speaker 2: Now the Victorian Labor Party is on the ropes at
Speaker 2: the moment according to the polls, because of how they
Speaker 2: have been running Victoria. To see what is playing out
Speaker 2: currently in the courts with everyone kind of being okay
Speaker 2: with the idea that secretly, behind closed doors, the people
Speaker 2: are the alternative government, don't trust each other enough so
Speaker 2: they start rolling tape on each other is absurd. And
Speaker 2: while I'm at at, one of the figures that has
Speaker 2: been talking about this practice of taping each other in
Speaker 2: meetings is the deputy leader of the party. You may
Speaker 2: not know who he is, but here he is playing
Speaker 2: on TikTok earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: David, what are you doing?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's Sweethie's. I've got the teen shirt.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get ticket, so I'm thought I had my
Speaker 1: own consent here in.
Speaker 2: The office, less taping, more policy both privately and publicly.
Speaker 2: As to the American presidential election. You know, I'm always
Speaker 2: going to find a way to talk about this. We've
Speaker 2: got a great panel ahead this evening. Again, no looks,
Speaker 2: no lefties. But still the October Surprise. This is where
Speaker 2: supposedly some big story is going to fall from the
Speaker 2: sky and one candidate is suddenly going to fall out
Speaker 2: of contention.
Speaker 1: It's never really that bad, but you get the point.
Speaker 2: The October surprise is, well, there's a couple of them,
Speaker 2: and we were not even a week into it. Donald
Speaker 2: Trump got some more bad news today via the person
Speaker 2: who wants to put him in jail for his part
Speaker 2: in and around everything that led up to January sixth. Now,
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court has already said that the official acts
Speaker 2: of a president you can't go to court for, so
Speaker 2: this bloke has decided to refile it and pretend that
Speaker 2: it was really the acts of a private citizen that
Speaker 2: was trying to overturn the twenty twenty election. Now this
Speaker 2: is all great for the MSNBC types of those that
Speaker 2: think Don Trump is the most evil orange thing to
Speaker 2: have ever inhabited the planet. But every time this happens,
Speaker 2: where they ratchet up the law fare, the poll numbers
Speaker 2: go up as well, and according to the very latest polls,
Speaker 2: he's either just in front or just behind, meaning that
Speaker 2: if he's a bump, he can lock this election away.
Speaker 2: If he's in front, or he may well be able
Speaker 2: to by this time next week be the leader of
Speaker 2: the election. So he correctly calls them out for trying
Speaker 2: to create the October Surprise of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 11: They calm, deranged Jacksmith. He just lost the big dark
Speaker 11: Ement's case. That was the biggest of them all, they said,
Speaker 11: the dark Ement's case, and they said that was the
Speaker 11: toughest of them all. Let mee, we just wanted and
Speaker 11: it was one strongly and he works for Kamala and
Speaker 11: he works for Joel. This was a weaponization of government
Speaker 11: and that's why it was released thirty days before the election.
Speaker 2: Now, the other October surprise is one that you're probably
Speaker 2: going to have to send out a search party to
Speaker 2: find because no one in the mainstream media is to
Speaker 2: want to talk about this whatsoever.
Speaker 1: And when we mean mainstream, we mean access, we mean.
Speaker 2: Pro Democrat media. Dug Emhoff is the husband of Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: He could end up being the first Gentleman of the
Speaker 2: United States should she win. And normally I wouldn't talk
Speaker 2: about a story involving a spouse, but I do when
Speaker 2: they give interviews like this where they get the foot
Speaker 2: licking from this host on MSNBC, who, of course, used
Speaker 2: to be Joe Biden spokesperson in the White House. An
Speaker 2: interesting part of how people have talked about your role
Speaker 2: here is how your role has reshaped the perception of masculinity.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure you planned on that, but you
Speaker 1: are an incredibly supportive spouse. Has that been an evolution
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 2: And do you think that's part of the role you
Speaker 2: might play as first gentleman?
Speaker 1: It's funny. I've started to think a lot about this.
Speaker 1: I've always been like this.
Speaker 2: Pure, pure than the driven snow cheetah on his first
Speaker 2: wife and knocked up the nanny. Okay, then there's this
Speaker 2: story first started in the Daily Mail, then to page
Speaker 2: six in the New York Post, Kamala Harris's husband, Dagenmofas,
Speaker 2: allegedly slapped his ex for flirting with another man during
Speaker 2: a drunken night out. Mainstream media access media pro Democrat Media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thankfully not Meghan Kelly. I'll have to check to
Speaker 1: her a little bit later in the program. Quick breakback
Speaker 1: with more No.
Speaker 2: Sooks, No Left East. Meghan Kelly, what a night you've
Speaker 2: got to see this Thursday night.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching. Hey, I hope that
Speaker 1: your footy team gets.
Speaker 2: Up in the NRAL a little bit later this weekend.
Speaker 2: If it's not your team that's there, don't worry. Bathist
Speaker 2: following weekend, following weekend, very excited.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it right now.
Speaker 2: Christy Bigsweeney is the head of the pr Council and
Speaker 2: Henry Pike is a.
Speaker 1: Member for Bowman in the Federal Parliament. Both of you. Hello,
Speaker 1: so Christy, we again forgive me that we've I.
Speaker 2: Took a bit of time to explain the supply chain
Speaker 2: to the Prime Minister. But we'll get to that in
Speaker 2: a second. These protests that are happening this weekend, Melbourne
Speaker 2: doesn't have an approval system.
Speaker 1: So if you just turn up, they have to respond. Sydney,
Speaker 1: they're going to do it anyway. But what about my idea.
Speaker 2: If you decided to put on a conference that lefties
Speaker 2: wouldn't like, they would send you the bill because police
Speaker 2: had to go and sort out the protesters that turn
Speaker 2: it up to your event. Why are they not being
Speaker 2: sent a bill for a protest that the police told
Speaker 2: them they never wanted to have.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 12: Look, the discrepancy between what occurs in New South Wales
Speaker 12: and what occurs in Melbourne is now obvious to everybody
Speaker 12: who says, well, why are people allowed to have these
Speaker 12: protests on this particular day on October seventh or on
Speaker 12: October sixth, obviously to cause as much distress as possible
Speaker 12: to Melbourne's not insignificant Jewish population. I'm sure they are
Speaker 12: a police within vic Pole who would wish there was
Speaker 12: some way that they could stop these protests going ahead.
Speaker 12: But guess what, it's just senter Alan Labor government who
Speaker 12: refuses to acknowledge that we could require a system where
Speaker 12: police have the last word in terms of who gets
Speaker 12: to protest and when.
Speaker 2: Now again, right, Henry, If the system is benefit of
Speaker 2: the doubt generally is given to protesters. Right to protest,
Speaker 2: free speech right. But obviously there are certain occasions, certain situations,
Speaker 2: certain causes and track records that need to be discussed
Speaker 2: here as well. Now you know we know that discussing
Speaker 2: this topic in any way, shape or form, with any
Speaker 2: form of nuance only makes everyone annoyed.
Speaker 1: But I don't care. I'll throw the nuance at it
Speaker 1: because it deserves it.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 1: But again, what do you think of my point here?
Speaker 2: Where for some reason, when police want to crack down,
Speaker 2: they'll fire rubber bullets if they don't want you to
Speaker 2: be on the street, if they consider the use of
Speaker 2: their resources and the irritant they send you a bill. Yet,
Speaker 2: oh well, as long as you don't go past the
Speaker 2: as long as you don't go past the synagogue.
Speaker 1: Oh that's okay.
Speaker 10: Well, not everyone's been getting a bill, Paul.
Speaker 1: That's the problem.
Speaker 10: That's unfortunately, there seems to be one rule for one
Speaker 10: group and one rule for another. And I think the
Speaker 10: presonent's been set here by these protesters. We've seen what
Speaker 10: they've done in the streets of Melbourne. We saw what
Speaker 10: they were doing in the days following October seven last.
Speaker 1: Year in Sydney. It's just not good enough.
Speaker 10: This isn't what we expect to see. And I think
Speaker 10: there needs to be a more proactive approach taken by
Speaker 10: our police in relation to these protesters. And if they
Speaker 10: haven't got the capacity to do that in certain jurisdictions,
Speaker 10: then that should be given to them. But also there's
Speaker 10: a role for the federal government to play here. Everyone
Speaker 10: who was carrying a Hesbala flag the other day, they
Speaker 10: were committing a federal offense. There should be charged under
Speaker 10: the Criminal Code. There's heaps that can be done. We
Speaker 10: just need the political will to actually do it well.
Speaker 2: And again you know the slide of hand from Tony
Speaker 2: Burke ole if they were on a visa role boot
Speaker 2: the thatt Ah Pal also under your jurisdiction, and also
Speaker 2: down the corridor as the Attorney General, you can have
Speaker 2: conversations about people who were born here, the vast majority
Speaker 2: of which were probably in that category. But nice try
Speaker 2: to change the subject. Most of the media going off
Speaker 2: in that direction. Well, we'll keep following, well the options
Speaker 2: that are actually before them. All right, now, a couple
Speaker 2: of quick rounds here before we get the winners and losers. Christy,
Speaker 2: the shrinkflation thing, Okay, I know what the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: is trying to do, which is to turn the supermarkets
Speaker 2: into what he was successfully able to turn the Reserve
Speaker 2: Bank into. As interest rates were slowly.
Speaker 1: Going up and up and up. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: going to work.
Speaker 2: And also this concept that the supermarket is directly linked
Speaker 2: to how much is in what packet of what you
Speaker 2: try to buy?
Speaker 1: What do you think of this plan?
Speaker 12: Well, there's two aspects to this. Yes, there is a
Speaker 12: supply chain issue, the cost of individual goods and services
Speaker 12: that make up that particular product, anything from production to
Speaker 12: freight to international trade issues that fluctuate, particularly within products,
Speaker 12: and negotiations with unions with farmers. There's so many factors
Speaker 12: that go into the cost of a product. But let's
Speaker 12: not forget as well, Paul. The supermarkets have lied. The
Speaker 12: supermarkets have staged marketing campaigns and advertising campaigns, spending money
Speaker 12: that they make from inflating the prices and then bringing
Speaker 12: them down again to put consumers in a cost of
Speaker 12: living crisis at a disadvantage.
Speaker 4: Now, the government wants to ignore the.
Speaker 12: Supply chain issues because you're entirely correct. The government has
Speaker 12: an objective to ship blame and make the supermarkets the
Speaker 12: baddy in the cost of living crisis. The supermarkets are
Speaker 12: to blame on some level, but the government has going
Speaker 12: to go full tilt with this attack all the way
Speaker 12: through to the election, and the.
Speaker 1: Same way it was about the big banks. And then
Speaker 1: we've got a royal commission.
Speaker 2: By the way, how many of those recommendations were ever
Speaker 2: put in place then, of course you know plenty of
Speaker 2: other times. And also still worth noting where we're talking
Speaker 2: about royal commissions and I want to do this each
Speaker 2: and every week. The government still has not responded formerly
Speaker 2: to the veteran suicide Royal Commission. Oh, it's really important,
Speaker 2: we care about everyone. Any of the recommendations you're willing
Speaker 2: to back in still haven't said why they're going to
Speaker 2: back in on it. And remember when it came to
Speaker 2: the banking Royal Commission, Oh what are you going to
Speaker 2: Not much was actually put in place, so we'll keep
Speaker 2: it tab Henry.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Queensland.
Speaker 2: And I wanted to show you something which was the
Speaker 2: coury mail speaking to us of a panel of undecided voters.
Speaker 1: This in part is what they've had to say about
Speaker 1: the leaders.
Speaker 8: Quick thoughts on the leaders.
Speaker 13: Both are pretty uninspiring.
Speaker 1: They don't really have strong opinions on the leaders so far, you.
Speaker 4: Guys can get in the way that the political candidate might.
Speaker 2: Big concern is broken promises after the election.
Speaker 13: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the debate tonight. I
Speaker 2: certainly played what I thought to be some of the
Speaker 2: highlights in it all. Henry, no doubt you're going to
Speaker 2: be all OLMP all the way. But do you think
Speaker 2: that things are a little grayer than the black and
Speaker 2: white that is being presented by the Poles here?
Speaker 10: I don't think there is no I've been doing knocking
Speaker 10: a lot with my local state candidates out in the Redlands,
Speaker 10: and I can tell you that the public is very
Speaker 10: strongly wanting a change of government. I think that people
Speaker 10: very much have a favorable view of David christoph Fully,
Speaker 10: and I think that they're willing to trust him for
Speaker 10: change when they go to the Poles starting in ten
Speaker 10: days time, I think that there is a move for change.
Speaker 10: I think it's going to be a very emphatic win
Speaker 10: for the christop Fully government and I think they're going
Speaker 10: to be a very good government and a government that
Speaker 10: Queenslanders can trust.
Speaker 1: All Right, bumper stickers, we all lose this week, Christy.
Speaker 12: I'm going to say win David christoph Fully, not for
Speaker 12: the Poles, but because he made a promise at the
Speaker 12: beginning of the year that he would put female candidates
Speaker 12: in half of all winnable seats the LMP at this election.
Speaker 12: And he's done it. He's delivered. He's the only bloke
Speaker 12: in Australia to do it.
Speaker 2: Congratulates good stuff, Henry less than ten seconds ago.
Speaker 10: The winner has to be the mighty Brisbane Lions, the
Speaker 10: p of Brisbane Town of course, all conquering up.
Speaker 1: Thank you memory, hold that, Thank you mate, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again that next week. Megan Kelly
Speaker 2: in a moment here on Paul Murray Live. Our favorite
Speaker 2: person to talk to each and every week is Megan Kelly.
Speaker 2: And let's talk about a vice presidential debate.
Speaker 1: Hello, rock star. Now, I'll be honest. I've been a
Speaker 1: jead events doubter, but you we played it last night.
Speaker 1: He killed it.
Speaker 13: Yesterday, he crushed it. You could not have asked for better.
Speaker 13: It was a thing of beauty. It may not matter
Speaker 13: at all, but it was wonderful to actually watch because
Speaker 13: you know, we've been so frustrated watching Trump out there,
Speaker 13: who is fine, but he is not like jd Is
Speaker 13: in terms of being able to prosecute the Republican's case,
Speaker 13: to bring it to the Democrats to point out their
Speaker 13: lives to when lying is happening in the moment, be
Speaker 13: able to look at the guy and say, what did
Speaker 13: I say that was wrong?
Speaker 1: Walk me through it.
Speaker 13: How did you not sign a law that would allow
Speaker 13: babies born after botched abortions to suffer and die on
Speaker 13: the table? What did I we just Trump doesn't do that,
Speaker 13: and very few Republicans do that. But jad Vance knew
Speaker 13: the facts and with a surgeon's precision, was able to
Speaker 13: cut through the bowl and get down to the meat
Speaker 13: of his own arguments, just completely in a forensic way,
Speaker 13: right in a way that was had a real wow
Speaker 13: factor where you were like, yes, that distills all my
Speaker 13: thoughts about this issue down to five words. He brought
Speaker 13: it to the moderators when the moderators needed it. He
Speaker 13: fought for his airtime, He called them out on their
Speaker 13: bs fact checking. Of the one side, it was just
Speaker 13: everything you could hope it would be.
Speaker 2: Of the two moderators, one was terrible, but that was
Speaker 2: to be expected. One was better than expected because at
Speaker 2: least there was the tough question for Waltz to have
Speaker 2: to answer, and as we've just discussed, he wasn't able
Speaker 2: to do it. You've had plenty to say about moderators
Speaker 2: in the past. What did you think of the way
Speaker 2: the whole thing was run?
Speaker 7: You're just trying to trigger me, aren't you?
Speaker 1: A little bit? Trigger me a little bit?
Speaker 13: I saw my trigger spots. I just this is the
Speaker 13: more I thought about it, the more I just got
Speaker 13: I just got angrier and angrier over what CBS did
Speaker 13: last night. I mean, it was better than ABC by
Speaker 13: a midget, you know. I mean, it's it's hard for
Speaker 13: me to say that they were better because they were
Speaker 13: disgustingly biased in their question selection, in their follow ups,
Speaker 13: in their fake fact in their snide tone, their sneering
Speaker 13: condescension to the Republican and to Republican voters. The Media
Speaker 13: Research Center did a study of the CBS Evening News
Speaker 13: and Morning News and showed that it's eighty three or
Speaker 13: eighty four percent negative stories for Trump, that it's ridiculous,
Speaker 13: seventeen percent of the stories or either neutral or positive,
Speaker 13: and eighty three percent of the coverage is negative on Trump.
Speaker 13: Not as bad as ABC, which I think was ninety
Speaker 13: seven percent negative for Trump, but disgusting and that was
Speaker 13: on full display last night. Margaret Brennan embarrassed herself. She
Speaker 13: completely changed many people's professional opinion of her. She's been
Speaker 13: very biased against Trump on her Sunday show. She's the
Speaker 13: one who on the night of the first assassination attempt,
Speaker 13: where Trump was still bleeding from his head, criticized his
Speaker 13: paper statement that he put out saying I'm okay and
Speaker 13: God bless whatever. Oh, he didn't call for his supporters
Speaker 13: not to retaliate. Irresponsible, what he's still bleeding. The story
Speaker 13: is not Trump's supporters getting ready to retaliate. It's that
Speaker 13: some lunatic almost shot his head off.
Speaker 2: I agree completely not to mention all of the problems
Speaker 2: that are happening, from storms to port shutdowns to the
Speaker 2: Middle East, all the rest of the day, which all
Speaker 2: obviously shows five years of ladyship at almost every level,
Speaker 2: but almost got a theory.
Speaker 13: I say something on the storm thing. Yeah, please give
Speaker 13: me for interapping. They raise the issue of Hurricane Helene,
Speaker 13: which has got we have hundreds of Americans dead. We
Speaker 13: probably have some six hundred more we're waiting to find
Speaker 13: they could be dead as well. And we've got people
Speaker 13: to these dramatic rooftop rescues where children are dying. Grandparents
Speaker 13: are dying. Kamala Harris was out in Los Angeles with
Speaker 13: her celebrity friends like Demi Levado, having beef Wellington while
Speaker 13: they were begging for help on their rooftops. That's the
Speaker 13: landing of your question, you dumb ass debate moderators. They
Speaker 13: raise Hurricane Helene. I'm thinking, great, you should do that
Speaker 13: when you get breaking news as a debate moderator the
Speaker 13: day of the debate or a couple days before. It's
Speaker 13: a blessing. It's mona from heaven. I can do all
Speaker 13: my jobs at once, get the actual news into my
Speaker 13: debate moderation, move this story forward, and hold the powerful
Speaker 13: to account. So they raise Hurricane Helene in the suffering.
Speaker 13: What's the landing that they use. It's misproof that there's
Speaker 13: climate change and what we need to do about it.
Speaker 13: The climate change is making these storms worse, which is
Speaker 13: not true. It's not true. If go back and look
Speaker 13: at the hurricane force over time. We had the most
Speaker 13: devastating some thirty years ago. The ones that have come
Speaker 13: along this season actually haven't been more severe than we've
Speaker 13: seen in past years. They predicted absolute disaster this fall.
Speaker 13: It didn't come.
Speaker 1: We had one.
Speaker 13: We've had many that are equally, if not more devastating
Speaker 13: than Helene. That's not the landing. The landing is the
Speaker 13: total lack of action and accountability by the woman who's
Speaker 13: asking us to make her the next president, who's the
Speaker 13: sitting vice president, who was too busy eating beef Wellington
Speaker 13: to give a damn. No one will ask a tough
Speaker 13: question like that. They've got to go back to their
Speaker 13: pet issues. They gave what seven minutes to abortion? More
Speaker 13: to climate change? Had to be another seven to January sixth.
Speaker 13: People don't care about climate change or January sixth. The
Speaker 13: polls show us that they care one or two about immigration.
Speaker 13: And when the two candidates started to fight on immigration,
Speaker 13: what did they do? They cut the mics to move on.
Speaker 13: Just the bias is it's up here. I feel like
Speaker 13: I'm drowning in it, and you, as a Republican, you
Speaker 13: watch it and all you know when it's over is
Speaker 13: I don't like the moderators. I'm annoyed.
Speaker 1: I love JD.
Speaker 13: At the Trump Kamala Harris debate, you were like, I'm
Speaker 13: frustrated with Trump. But the media bias is so ubiquitous,
Speaker 13: it's so steeped in. All we can do now is
Speaker 13: try to manage our ways through it. And I'm really
Speaker 13: thinking this morning, we have to find a new approach.
Speaker 13: I just think maybe we just don't participate. Maybe it's
Speaker 13: a hard and fast rule that if we have one
Speaker 13: on an NBC or a CBS or an ABC, there
Speaker 13: has to be one on a Fox News or with
Speaker 13: an independent somebody like me or benchhap here whatever. You
Speaker 13: can't just say we're only going to go into these
Speaker 13: forums that the Democrats control.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And you know we've talked about
Speaker 2: it before. I think that you go, okay, look I'll
Speaker 2: do a town hall on one night. You can do
Speaker 2: another town hall on another night, and just go, look,
Speaker 2: we're not going to play this this nonsense because as
Speaker 2: soon as you put us together, we know which one
Speaker 2: you're going.
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