Speaker 1: It's outside, Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders. The show
Speaker 1: that is to anti Semitism on steroids and woke identity
Speaker 1: politics had their most patronizing and insufferable. What the British
Speaker 1: so called comedian Dawn French is to empathy and human decency?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Complicated, no, but nuanced But you know, bottom line is no, yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know I did a bad thing to ask.
Speaker 3: Me, Yeah, but no.
Speaker 4: Yes, that is a Dawn French, famous for playing the
Speaker 4: role of the Vicar of Dibley. But what on earth
Speaker 4: is she talking about in that silly whining voice. Is
Speaker 4: she dismissing the atrocities and hostage taking of October seven
Speaker 4: as simply as a bad thing? It would appear so.
Speaker 5: No Ah, Yes, such empathy, such compassion for Israel and
Speaker 5: Jewish people from a woman who is a prominent British celebrity.
Speaker 6: These people know, even people believe me.
Speaker 7: No, no, Dawn, no to you.
Speaker 1: Dawn French has now apologized for the mockery there of
Speaker 1: Israel and the Jews. Not before time that she's apologized.
Speaker 1: But such casual anti Semitism is now endemic, as we
Speaker 1: shall discuss as we grab.
Speaker 7: The latest Outsiders News.
Speaker 1: Well, James and Rita heilll Fold has been blocked from
Speaker 1: coming here to Australia. We're going to talk about that disgrace,
Speaker 1: but first let's get to Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
Speaker 7: The show goes on.
Speaker 1: It couldn't get any funnier, any crazy a Eta.
Speaker 4: Oh, it has been seriously entertaining. I've got to say
Speaker 4: I could not tear myself away from x Elon's platform ironically,
Speaker 4: because he has made a massive miscalculation here. I think
Speaker 4: I don't know what he was on. It's been speculated
Speaker 4: perhaps something Kennymine tweets mate have been but the Kennymine
Speaker 4: has worn off and he has been going back and
Speaker 4: doing something he never does, which is deleting certain tweets
Speaker 4: during that exchange, possibly the most shocking and the biggest
Speaker 4: misstep was to say that Trump should be grateful to him.
Speaker 4: He may be the most well maybe the world's richest man,
Speaker 4: he's not the world's most powerful man, and that's what
Speaker 4: he's got to realize, and he has, I think, James.
Speaker 7: But worse was the Epstein thing. For me, Well that
Speaker 7: was almost in a minute.
Speaker 5: But I mean that's nobody, nobody, nobody, takes that seriously, because,
Speaker 5: first of all, let's think about this. I mean, Donald
Speaker 5: Trump is a guy who the left tried to put
Speaker 5: in prison, take his businesses, take off the ballot, do
Speaker 5: every single thing they could do to him, and yet
Speaker 5: somehow they just knew somewhere that he was floating around
Speaker 5: in the Epstein files and they never left that truck.
Speaker 5: Come on, let's put that all on one side, the
Speaker 5: really important thing.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's because there are fools who do believe
Speaker 4: this Epstein line. Now because Elon has said it, you
Speaker 4: are one hundred percent right. Of course, if he was
Speaker 4: anywhere in the files, we would all know about it
Speaker 4: before the election. But also he was one of the
Speaker 4: very first ostracize very Epstein back in two thousand and
Speaker 4: eight before he was.
Speaker 8: You know, why do you know why he banned.
Speaker 4: Him from mar A Lago after he was in a
Speaker 4: pro create with a teenager there. That was before his
Speaker 4: prostitution conviction. So he was amongst the very first, if
Speaker 4: not the first, in that elite world.
Speaker 5: Webstein was hitting on the daughter of a varral Lago
Speaker 5: member and Trump booted him out of the club and said,
Speaker 5: you're not welcome here. So we put that entirely trust.
Speaker 5: But you know, the key thing everybody has to reverence. Yeah,
Speaker 5: for all the entertaining, it's really been a lot of
Speaker 5: fun watching this whole thing blow up, the big bromance,
Speaker 5: the big divorce, Mommy and daddy are fighting again. But
Speaker 5: here's the thing, Like this all really exposed a really
Speaker 5: big split within the Republican Party because you've got that
Speaker 5: kind of tech libertarian side and you've got the Trump side,
Speaker 5: which is actually much more politically realistic because you know,
Speaker 5: the big issue was this big, beautiful bill that Donald
Speaker 5: Trump is pushing through, which is basically secure as the
Speaker 5: tax cuts that he put into place in his first
Speaker 5: term of office. Gets a lot of spending custs, but
Speaker 5: not as much as they need, but they get some.
Speaker 5: So it's a real part the out of the possible bill.
Speaker 5: Musk just decided to have this huge tantrum and there
Speaker 5: is no other word for it. And you know, here's
Speaker 5: the crazy thing though, as you say, Rita, Musk mistook
Speaker 5: money for power. Trump understands power more than anybody else.
Speaker 5: The reason why the left hates him is that, unlike
Speaker 5: most people on the right, he really does understand the
Speaker 5: nature of power.
Speaker 8: And he mustle thought.
Speaker 5: Musk thought that he'd had was on this huge winner
Speaker 5: and all the Libertarians and everybody like that, we're gonna
Speaker 5: come out and say, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't want
Speaker 5: the big beautiful bill. We want this sort of big
Speaker 5: extreme bill which doesn't even exist. When you know, and
Speaker 5: you know what happened. The Hill Newspaper, which like the
Speaker 5: trade paper for Capitol Hill, they called over a dozen
Speaker 5: Congressional offices, from senior leaders to backbenches, and they said
Speaker 5: they'd gotten maybe between all of them, one or two
Speaker 5: calls from Musk people saying hey, you know, go against
Speaker 5: the big beautiful bill. So Musk wildly overplayed his head.
Speaker 5: Why he did what he was on at the time,
Speaker 5: I don't know. But there's all this other crazy stuff too.
Speaker 5: You know, there are stories now coming out. Yeah, Steve
Speaker 5: Benner the other day saying that Elon Musk got into
Speaker 5: a punch up with Scott Besant, the Treasury secretary in
Speaker 5: the West wing.
Speaker 8: This is how nuts things have gotten of it.
Speaker 7: But the other thing, the other thing is myssed. Sorry.
Speaker 1: The other thing that dismissed is there has been an
Speaker 1: inherent tension all the way along, and let's not forget
Speaker 1: that Elon Musk is the man behind Tesla, the man
Speaker 1: behind the EV's, the EV mandates, the whole climate change
Speaker 1: push and the future of you know, electric cars and
Speaker 1: so on, and it's gone very well and made a
Speaker 1: fortune out of it.
Speaker 7: The left idolized him. There was always a tension with Trump.
Speaker 1: They got together, they worked together for the election, but
Speaker 1: it had to blow up at some point because at
Speaker 1: some point Donald Trump was going to say we can't
Speaker 1: keep having these subsidies and so on for Tesla and
Speaker 1: for net zero, and that's that was a key sorry,
Speaker 1: it was a key part of it. According to Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: The EV mandates going was one of the key things.
Speaker 1: He blew up about, saying that I have the subsidies,
Speaker 1: not getting said that.
Speaker 8: Because Moscoe was said back in twenty twenty one he said.
Speaker 9: We don't need the Well did say that, but he
Speaker 9: blew up about it.
Speaker 4: That was I think it was more to do with
Speaker 4: the overall direction and also to do with a NASA appointment,
Speaker 4: which yes, which Elon Musk was very committed to, but
Speaker 4: it was someone who had donated to the Democrats back
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one, or a Democrat aligned packed and
Speaker 4: the Trump folks were not comfortable with that appointment, so
Speaker 4: he was vetoed and that seemed to also be a
Speaker 4: bit of a trigger for him. Yes, you're right, it
Speaker 4: was predictable. You've got a hugely powerful out for males
Speaker 4: in the same space. But this is where elonjusts and
Speaker 4: I think he's realized very quickly the mistake he's made
Speaker 4: because he has been back.
Speaker 7: This will all blow over.
Speaker 1: This will be nothing getting all excited, but it will
Speaker 1: blow over and there'll be buddies again within no time.
Speaker 5: Can I just see though that there's really I got
Speaker 5: to keep coming back though to this real philosophical people
Speaker 5: tram because I'm not just pragnantism rous ideology. It's nationalism
Speaker 5: versus libertarianism. One of the big things that the Big
Speaker 5: Beautiful Bill does is secure a lot more funding for
Speaker 5: the border, the border and immigration. We're talking about that
Speaker 5: later the show too. What's going on in Los Angeles
Speaker 5: right now. It's really really shocking. But you know, this
Speaker 5: is this is something that the Trump people, the MAGA people, deeply,
Speaker 5: deeply care about, and they're like saying, well, muscles, like, oh,
Speaker 5: we can budget balance the budget, but if you don't
Speaker 5: have border control, you don't have border enforcement, then you
Speaker 5: don't have a nation, and there's no point. And that
Speaker 5: is the real split between kind of the tech pro libertarians,
Speaker 5: the Musk camp on the one hand, and the Trump
Speaker 5: Baga camp on the other.
Speaker 8: People agree camp is completely wining wrong.
Speaker 1: But the real argument is about what what's eline Musk
Speaker 1: is really upset about is that the cuts aunt being made.
Speaker 1: He's put in all this work under doge to find
Speaker 1: all the successive money that is being wasted that the
Speaker 1: government is hanging out. He's cut a lass. He's saying,
Speaker 1: look this money. He's saying, there's so much more here
Speaker 1: we could be cutting. And Trump is going now with politically,
Speaker 1: we can't do that. I want to get my bill
Speaker 1: through which does those cuts. And that's it, And that
Speaker 1: is what the fault line.
Speaker 7: Is over the economy.
Speaker 1: It's whether we go the full lot, go for the
Speaker 1: ideal of what we should be cutting, which Musk is correct,
Speaker 1: or we do what politics is the art of the possible,
Speaker 1: or we do what can be achieved, which is what
Speaker 1: Trump is saying. And the tragedy here is that both
Speaker 1: are one hundred percent correct, but both are correct that
Speaker 1: both their positions are correct, but the reality is in politics,
Speaker 1: you've got to take what you can get that.
Speaker 5: Numbers, because here's the thing. The bill that that Trump
Speaker 5: is pushing through just needs fifty votes of the Senate,
Speaker 5: you know, and they can get that through. They've got those,
Speaker 5: got that. But if you go with some new piece
Speaker 5: of leanslation, they need sixty.
Speaker 8: They don't have it.
Speaker 7: So we'd see a world recession if they don't get
Speaker 7: the bills.
Speaker 4: Fantastic developments out of this, including the Democrats now wanting
Speaker 4: the Epstein files released. So that's fantastical.
Speaker 8: So careful what you wish exactly.
Speaker 7: Let's take a quick listening to Donald Trump talking about
Speaker 7: this and what are you going to do about the Tesla?
Speaker 10: You're gonna keep it or are you're gonna haven't?
Speaker 7: I mean, I hope he does well with yesh.
Speaker 11: Do you have any plans to speak with mister must
Speaker 11: this was one of your closest advisors.
Speaker 10: No, I don't have any plan. I'm not even thinking
Speaker 10: about that.
Speaker 1: There apparent And let's have a listened to JD. Van's
Speaker 1: his vice president.
Speaker 3: But the main purpose of the bill is not actually
Speaker 3: spending or cutting spending, though it does cut a lot
Speaker 3: of spending. The main purpose of the bill is to
Speaker 3: prevent the biggest tax increase. But I understand like it's
Speaker 3: a good bill, it's not a perfect bill. Like the
Speaker 3: process in DC. If you're a business leader, you probably
Speaker 3: get frustrated with that process because it's more you know, bureaucratic,
Speaker 3: it's more slow moving. So I think there's just some
Speaker 3: frustrations there. But I I really, man, I think it's
Speaker 3: a huge mistake for him to go after the president
Speaker 3: like that. And I think that if he and the
Speaker 3: President are in some blood feud, most importantly, it's going
Speaker 3: to be bad for the country. But I think it's
Speaker 3: going to be I don't think it's gonna be good
Speaker 3: for Eelon either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right there. And I think that's part of the
Speaker 4: reason why Elon has backtrack, not only because he was
Speaker 4: just completely out of order, but he is seen that no,
Speaker 4: this MAGA movement isn't splitting down the movement and half
Speaker 4: going with him. It's ninety percent Trump and yet that
Speaker 4: little section that is the libertarian free market types. And
Speaker 4: you know, they had that conflict a few months back
Speaker 4: when the skilled visa issue king and that one again
Speaker 4: was where the Trump base was We're not sure this
Speaker 4: is good for America. We're not sure this is an
Speaker 4: America first position, and Elon was very strong and Trump
Speaker 4: did back him on that one, though you wondered where
Speaker 4: he really stood on that position.
Speaker 8: And that was also a Gromaslami blew up so spectacular exactly.
Speaker 7: Now let's talk about Hillel Fold.
Speaker 1: So Hillel Fold was invited to Australia by basically the
Speaker 1: Israeli version of the Red.
Speaker 7: Cross invited him to speak.
Speaker 1: He's a well known speaker, he was here a few
Speaker 1: years ago. He mainly speaks about kind of startup nation
Speaker 1: technology stuff. But Tony Burke has canceled his visa. This
Speaker 1: guy is an American citizen as well as an Israeli citizen.
Speaker 7: He is.
Speaker 1: There is nothing that you can say that there is
Speaker 1: necessarily there are no proper grounds whatsoever for canceling his visa.
Speaker 1: This is a disgusting approach by this labor government, which
Speaker 1: seems to just hate Israel, hate anything to do with Israel,
Speaker 1: can't stand the fact that a person.
Speaker 7: Is coming to Australia to make.
Speaker 1: A speech who's a prominent Israeli They canceled in Israeli
Speaker 1: politician last year. I would hope that if alberiz he
Speaker 1: does get in front of Donald Trump and JD. Vans,
Speaker 1: that they read the Riot Act to Anthony Alberanizi and
Speaker 1: Penny Wong about what is happening in this country. To
Speaker 1: block someone like Hillel Fold coming into this country to
Speaker 1: make a speech is disgraceful. We are letting in three
Speaker 1: thousand Gazans and they all being vested for their social
Speaker 1: media comments.
Speaker 7: I doubt it.
Speaker 1: We're letting in a million people from around the world,
Speaker 1: and yet we're blocking a couple of this guy, a
Speaker 1: Jewish guy. He's coming in to make a speech about
Speaker 1: Jewish entrepreneurship.
Speaker 4: Relatively, he's a threat to the health, safety, or good
Speaker 4: order of Australians. I would like that to be explained further.
Speaker 4: Exactly how is this.
Speaker 5: Exactly this is if you look at the decision that
Speaker 5: Tony Burke has headed down here.
Speaker 8: And by the way, this is really sinister.
Speaker 5: It is because this doesn't just today the issue is
Speaker 5: Israel and Gaza and the Palestinians in Islam. Tomorrow it
Speaker 5: could be something else, you know, among the things that
Speaker 5: they said as well, oh you know, he basically didn't
Speaker 5: agree with the official Gaza Harbaus narrative.
Speaker 8: That's a long things.
Speaker 5: Palestinian activist groups have been in Tony Brook's ear about this,
Speaker 5: urging him to cancel this visa. So basically, Tony Burke
Speaker 5: is giving Palestinian activists a veto over who comes into
Speaker 5: and out of this country. This is absolutely unacceptable. What
Speaker 5: we can't hear other people's views because they might wind
Speaker 5: up causing some sort of hate in the community. That's
Speaker 5: not what this is about. This is about a small
Speaker 5: group of activists, Palestinian actists, trying to determine what the
Speaker 5: visa policy is to this country, what the free speech
Speaker 5: policy is in this country, and it's free speech.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 5: A few months ago chrispian Is, the premiere of New
Speaker 5: South Wales, he said something really sinister. He said, we
Speaker 5: don't have First Amendment American style free speech in this
Speaker 5: country because of multi culturalism. The admission there is that
Speaker 5: if you're going to have multiculturalism, no, no, we're not
Speaker 5: getting along together. We now have to all watch what
Speaker 5: we say to keep us from going out at hammer
Speaker 5: and tongs. This is really interest because what you know,
Speaker 5: tomorrow you could have a Chinese dissident who wants to
Speaker 5: come in and speak, and you could have Chinese nationalists
Speaker 5: here saying that's really not all that will encourage, you know,
Speaker 5: hatred towards the Chinese Committee or any other group that's
Speaker 5: involved in the dispute overseas. This is what the aveneazy
Speaker 5: government is doing. They are saying, you know, well, one
Speaker 5: side they say, oh, we don't want people to bring
Speaker 5: their disputes here. That is exactly what they're doing. Other
Speaker 5: people decide what we do.
Speaker 4: Anders decide again of Islamophobia. So the fear is if
Speaker 4: he comes here, there'll be trouble. Not trouble from members
Speaker 4: of the Jewish community of people who are going along
Speaker 4: to hear him speak, trouble from people opposed to him
Speaker 4: being here. So the people who are cannot regulate themselves,
Speaker 4: who are going to be violent, who are going to
Speaker 4: be disruptive and perhaps break the law trying to stop
Speaker 4: this man speaking, they're the one who are having this.
Speaker 7: Let's let not forget.
Speaker 1: He little fold is here to raise money for a hospital.
Speaker 7: Okay, so that's what he's here to do, hospital exactly.
Speaker 1: Now, James is absolutely right, this is a free speech issue.
Speaker 1: This is the labor government of Australia basically saying if
Speaker 1: you're in our side. You know, if you think like us,
Speaker 1: we'll let you into the country. If you don't think
Speaker 1: like us, you're not coming into the country.
Speaker 7: This is orwelling and it is up.
Speaker 1: To seriously the only people who can put a halt
Speaker 1: to this, apart from Australians getting very angry with their
Speaker 1: local MPs on the phone or writing to them or
Speaker 1: whatever to express they're dissatisfaction that this.
Speaker 7: Has to stop.
Speaker 1: This is this is at political activism. This is censorship
Speaker 1: with the worst kind.
Speaker 7: But jd.
Speaker 1: Vance has repeatedly said, and Trump has repeatedly said, they
Speaker 1: will not do business with a nation that restricts free speech.
Speaker 1: This is Australia restricting free speech and the alban Ezy
Speaker 1: government putting a threat our relationships with our most important
Speaker 1: not only the trading partner, but military alliance.
Speaker 7: So the Albanezy government is actually.
Speaker 1: Threatening the safety of this nation through these sorts of actions.
Speaker 1: Because the Trump administration we perfectly within their rights to
Speaker 1: say no, you win, go to work with you if
Speaker 1: you're going to carry on like.
Speaker 5: This and rowan you know, I hope that the President
Speaker 5: does hear about this before it's the G seven meeting
Speaker 5: this week, because this would be a great thing for
Speaker 5: the President to take the Prime Minister to task over.
Speaker 5: And it's so funny to me, guys, because earlier this
Speaker 5: week we had last week we had the Albanezy government,
Speaker 5: the Prime Minister himself saying, oh, other people won't tell
Speaker 5: us how much we should spend on defense. We will
Speaker 5: do this according to Australian values, in the Australian way,
Speaker 5: that whole tedious thing that they.
Speaker 8: Now call progressive patriotism.
Speaker 5: Please spare me now we've got you know, defense policy.
Speaker 5: Oh well, you know, we're gonna stand up to somebody
Speaker 5: telling us what to do. And with the Australian government
Speaker 5: was like, but when it comes to Hillo fold coming in,
Speaker 5: somebody is going to say things that some of their
Speaker 5: backers don't like, some Palestine activists don't like, some anti
Speaker 5: Zionist activists don't like. Oh well, yes, okay, Soljza, Oh yes, yes, okay,
Speaker 5: sure we'll do that right away. We'll get that Tony
Speaker 5: get the letter.
Speaker 4: Berg is in the wrong portfolio. He should not be
Speaker 4: in that portfolio, just given the makeup of his seat
Speaker 4: and the activist groups that have his ear. He is
Speaker 4: entirely in the wrong portfolio, and I think these sort
Speaker 4: of problems are going to continue as long as he's
Speaker 4: that minister.
Speaker 7: So what I want to see is Donald Trump and JD.
Speaker 1: Van So. I want to see Albow sitting in the
Speaker 1: White House and I want Donald Trump to say, no,
Speaker 1: We're just going to turn down the lights.
Speaker 7: Have a little slide show, Albat. Please explain hill l
Speaker 7: filed to us.
Speaker 1: Please explain your decisions on censorship of the Internet.
Speaker 7: Please explain these.
Speaker 9: Decisions, because seriously, Australia is out of control, absolutely out
Speaker 9: of control, Tony Burke, as you said, read wrong portfolio,
Speaker 9: absolutely disgraceful, that political activism and political interference in free
Speaker 9: speech absolutely unacceptable.
Speaker 4: And the Prime Minister has been talking tough this week
Speaker 4: about no one will dictate to us how we spend
Speaker 4: on defense, because there has been pressure from the US
Speaker 4: for Australia lifted its defense spending as a percentage, which
Speaker 4: we need to do. A lot of experts in that
Speaker 4: area saying exactly the same thing. Where was this tough
Speaker 4: talk from the Prime minister when Chinese warships were live
Speaker 4: fire exercise exactly a few hund.
Speaker 5: We determined who circumnavigated circumstances on which they did.
Speaker 1: So now last week we'll claim this is a scalp
Speaker 1: but victory for outsiders and we're happy to take it,
Speaker 1: and particularly you, the outsiders who responded to our core
Speaker 1: last week to express your dissatisfaction to Nike with the
Speaker 1: ambassadorship of the Grace Tame, the Australian of the Year
Speaker 1: from some years ago, who had been putting out some
Speaker 1: pretty vile hatred of Jews type stuff online.
Speaker 7: Nike have now stood her down.
Speaker 1: She was basically retweeting what other people had said, which
Speaker 1: was not terribly sympathetic to Jews or to Israel. She's
Speaker 1: now been dumped from that role.
Speaker 4: In putting it lightly, that's rather putting it lightly.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It is interesting because Nike is typically very left, very woke.
Speaker 4: It's advertising and its messaging has been that way for
Speaker 4: many years. They've copped a lot of criticism for, you know,
Speaker 4: the way they operate their business, some of the wages
Speaker 4: they perhaps pay these third world countries compared to their
Speaker 4: right on activism in the West. So for them to
Speaker 4: make this decision is no small thing because this is
Speaker 4: pretty much in line with their company motto. But I
Speaker 4: think she just went too fast. Some of the stuff
Speaker 4: she was sharing was just so out there that even
Speaker 4: Nike is like, whoa, We've got to back away from it.
Speaker 1: But this makes the point James, that you know, everyday
Speaker 1: Australians can make a difference. If you get on the blower,
Speaker 1: if you write those letters, if you express your disapproval
Speaker 1: to this sort of insane, woke left wing ideaology, the
Speaker 1: marketing department will sit up and take notice. And we
Speaker 1: made a big thing about this last week and the
Speaker 1: marketing department at Nike certainly took up, took notice.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: Now we've got also talking about political activism. We've got
Speaker 1: Marine Ferruki wandering around London. She's the Greens, heavy pro
Speaker 1: palest Indian Greens, turning up a demonstrations outside Westminster. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the responsibilities for a MP should be,
Speaker 1: but here she is in London.
Speaker 7: Have a lot what is going on?
Speaker 12: Okay, guys, here we are surrounding the Parliament with the
Speaker 12: red line off redlining Parliament.
Speaker 13: The whole length of Parliament half a kN a meter long.
Speaker 14: Is here and you can see we've got some special
Speaker 14: guests here at Chending with us.
Speaker 1: It goes all the way around half we up, half
Speaker 1: we up west Ridge the bridge.
Speaker 8: What is what?
Speaker 7: She then did an interview with some local media.
Speaker 1: They're accusing Israel and ethnic cleansing and carrying on.
Speaker 7: What is what? First of all, what did the poor
Speaker 7: old poems do to deserve? Marine Ferruki on that. You're
Speaker 7: welcome to.
Speaker 4: Her, We'll take harry as, we'll do some sort of
Speaker 4: a trade. One is she on annual leaveing? No, I'm
Speaker 4: sure she's got other things she could be doing in
Speaker 4: a And also what is an Australian senator doing engaging
Speaker 4: in that sort of activism in the UK. They're not
Speaker 4: enough pro Palestinian rallies for her to attend here that
Speaker 4: she has to go over there.
Speaker 5: Frankly, I'm happy for her to go. I hope she
Speaker 5: offset her miles because of course it would have helped
Speaker 5: kill the plant all the way to London. But you
Speaker 5: know this is also by the way, it's like it
Speaker 5: just shows that they have learned nothing, They've forgotten nothing.
Speaker 5: You know, the Greens took an absolute shellacking at the
Speaker 5: last election. They really just fell apart, and you know
Speaker 5: this are the nonsense is exactly why. Because the Greens
Speaker 5: started out as a sort of middle class environmental conservationist
Speaker 5: party under Bob Brown, it is now so far radically
Speaker 5: and I use that word in every sense of the word,
Speaker 5: removed from what it was originally about, which was like
Speaker 5: saving cute furry things and you know, trees, and yes,
Speaker 5: some of their stuff was annoying, but you know it
Speaker 5: was never anything sort of sinister to this sort of thing,
Speaker 5: which is you know, adjacent to let's just say, an
Speaker 5: awful lot of bad stuff.
Speaker 4: And we actually need a proper Greens party now because
Speaker 4: we are seeing devastation of the countryside and we are seeing.
Speaker 7: Yes, protect us from milions, so exactly.
Speaker 4: These bloody, disgusting, ugly soular farms and wind wind farms,
Speaker 4: and there's really no political party that is taking a
Speaker 4: stand against that. And now as so many people in
Speaker 4: the cities and certainly in regional areas who are concerned
Speaker 4: about that at the natural vironment and there's no one
Speaker 4: to represent them.
Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting because the NETS are going to have
Speaker 5: their conference next weekend, the New South Wales NETS, and
Speaker 5: we're going to find out how they're going to wind
Speaker 5: up going when it comes to net zero out of that.
Speaker 5: So that's going to be interesting that out there will
Speaker 5: wind up putting some pressure within the coalition. The newly
Speaker 5: reformed Mommy.
Speaker 8: And Daddy are back together coalition.
Speaker 4: So you know what, the Nationals could emerge as the
Speaker 4: key in real environmentalist party in this country because they
Speaker 4: care about regional areas and they know people who live
Speaker 4: out in the bush are devastated to see what's happening
Speaker 4: to the Australian countryside, seeing what's happening to the bush,
Speaker 4: to the wildlife, and they could be the leading voice.
Speaker 5: And have a conservation to streaking them, you know, not
Speaker 5: a raditude registry. But it's a beautiful country, beautiful landscapes,
Speaker 5: unique animals and farmland, farmland, farmland from land. Every time
Speaker 5: you put one of these huge transmission towers, you're taking
Speaker 5: away farmland. Every time farmland gets sold to some group
Speaker 5: from China or wherever to smack solar panels all over it,
Speaker 5: that land gone wills.
Speaker 8: Same thing.
Speaker 1: Now, before we go to a break, just want to
Speaker 1: talk touch briefly on the unrealized capital gains tax. This
Speaker 1: is the phantom tax on superannuation. This is a profit
Speaker 1: that you don't actually have. This is the worst of labor,
Speaker 1: This is thievery, theft. Meanwhile, the Australian economy is going
Speaker 1: down the gurglar.
Speaker 7: As we know.
Speaker 1: This bloke Charmers is completely useless. He wants to steal
Speaker 1: your superannuation. He wants to steal your money.
Speaker 7: That's the labor approach, that's the Marxist approach.
Speaker 1: Just take money and keep on taking money while the
Speaker 1: economy suffers. Now, James and Rita mentioned the NATS conference
Speaker 1: the NATS must not only oppose net zero if they
Speaker 1: want to have any hope of returning the coalition to government,
Speaker 1: but they must also oppose this unrealized capital gains in
Speaker 1: any concept of unrealized capital gains taxes in the future,
Speaker 1: that's the way for the Opposition to get back into
Speaker 1: government because people are not going to put up with
Speaker 1: this hardcore left wing rubbish. So the NATS need to
Speaker 1: oppose that zero and oppose and promise to repeal. More importantly,
Speaker 1: the capital unrealized capital gains tax retail.
Speaker 4: It is a grossly unfair tax. It is absolutely will
Speaker 4: be disastrous for investment, and the Greens back at one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. In fact, the Greens wanted to be broader.
Speaker 4: They wanted to start a two million and no doubt
Speaker 4: that will want it to extend eventually to other asset classes.
Speaker 4: Principle that's it apply to real estate.
Speaker 5: You know, this is the thing and most people don't
Speaker 5: have three million dollars in their super so you know,
Speaker 5: Labor is very candily trying to set this up, just
Speaker 5: like they did when they went back on the stage
Speaker 5: three tax commitment as it being about you know, a
Speaker 5: small group of people that you know, say the top
Speaker 5: end of town and where you know, that's an ansense
Speaker 5: because that top end gets really big. If you look
Speaker 5: at the way, without having indexed our tax brackets, you know,
Speaker 5: our top tax bra I should kick in about twice
Speaker 5: as high as it is now because it's not index
Speaker 5: the same thing's going to happen here. It's going to
Speaker 5: capture everybody eventually.
Speaker 8: The real product of Labor sees.
Speaker 5: Here is that people have gone out and they set
Speaker 5: of self betterged super funds and they haven't put their
Speaker 5: money through union super funds back which then have a
Speaker 5: financial relationship with Labor.
Speaker 8: That's what it's all about.
Speaker 5: It's but try to bring back that control of super
Speaker 5: under the great labor umbrella.
Speaker 4: The industry is super funds are responsible for so much
Speaker 4: that is wrong in this country. We really we need
Speaker 4: to do a dip and they.
Speaker 1: Then funnel that money, your your money into dream Energy.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a short we'll get back to
Speaker 1: it short break.
Speaker 7: After the break. We if we only checked.
Speaker 1: Plus lot's my here with James and res around Rowan
Speaker 1: when Outsiders.
Speaker 4: You're watching Outsiders with your host Rowan, Ivy League Dean,
Speaker 4: James Ancient eight Morrow and I'm Rita Panahy And soon
Speaker 4: we'll be discussing the latest batch of celebrities to embarrass
Speaker 4: themselves with their ill advised political activism. But first to academia.
Speaker 4: No university has trashed its own reputation more than Harvard. Yes,
Speaker 4: the self inflicted damage has been profound. The racist DEI
Speaker 4: inspired admission policies, where white and Asian students are discriminated against,
Speaker 4: was bad enough, but in the past twenty months we've
Speaker 4: seen an explosion of anti Semitism, with the university becoming
Speaker 4: a hotbed of hate and hostility. The lunacy started early
Speaker 4: on October seven, as the biggest massacre of Jews since
Speaker 4: the Holocaust was underway. More than thirty Harvard University student
Speaker 4: organizations signed a letter claiming the Israeli regime was entirely
Speaker 4: responsible for all unfolding violence, and the derangement at Harvard
Speaker 4: continues unabatea. Just have a look at who Harvard chose
Speaker 4: to speak at a recent graduations and money.
Speaker 13: There are no safe zones left in razza after six
Speaker 13: hundred days and seventy seven years of genocide. I center
Speaker 13: these students with urgent desperation because time is running out.
Speaker 13: No meaningful aid has entered Razzia since March second, and
Speaker 13: this is on our account. I center Palestine today not
Speaker 13: just because of its scale of atrocity, but because of
Speaker 13: our complicity in it. Together, we must refuse to be
Speaker 13: ruled by the tyrants of our time, because our liberations
Speaker 13: are intertwined.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, Harvard students, zarah a mom climbing. Israel has
Speaker 4: been committing genocide for seventy seven years. They must not
Speaker 4: be very good at it because the Palestinian population has
Speaker 4: increased tenfold since nineteen forty eight. But the Harvard derangement
Speaker 4: isn't just centered around Israel and Palestine. Look at who
Speaker 4: Havard chose to give the commencement speech this year Chinese national,
Speaker 4: a student whose family has ties to the CCP.
Speaker 15: In the end, we do not raise by approving each
Speaker 15: other wrong. We raise by refusing to let one another goal.
Speaker 4: Yes, and it appears that not only do her family
Speaker 4: have CCP links, but the student herself, Luana Jing, worked
Speaker 4: for a Chinese Communist Party entity with extensive ties to
Speaker 4: Beijing's military and intelligence networks. But the leftist media in
Speaker 4: the US love the speech and have been eager to
Speaker 4: boost Jiang. What you're being interviewed here and take note
Speaker 4: of what is happening behind her as she preaches about
Speaker 4: humanity and connection to your fellow.
Speaker 16: Man, and I have to put into one sentence it
Speaker 16: will be humanity risers.
Speaker 4: And false as one.
Speaker 16: I think we are living in a very difficult time,
Speaker 16: a lot of divisions in terms of no ideas, identities,
Speaker 16: and I think this is a time where we can
Speaker 16: use a little bit more moral imagination and imagine ourselves
Speaker 16: being connected with one another, connection to.
Speaker 6: Her fellow man.
Speaker 4: She's not even connected to the dudes punching on a
Speaker 4: few meters behind her. You know, the derangement at Harvard
Speaker 4: won't end anytime soon, not even with the Trump administration
Speaker 4: declaring war on the institution. Well, it's not having much
Speaker 4: impact yet. Harvard will long be an institution where radical
Speaker 4: leftist group think rules supreme. You know, perhaps it would
Speaker 4: help if instead of anti Israeli, pro Beijing activists ruling
Speaker 4: the student body and the faculties, we had someone like
Speaker 4: this Gal.
Speaker 6: Eveny Chapstick.
Speaker 17: Yeah herepply really egal right for health there, black lives there,
Speaker 17: that's right.
Speaker 7: That's great. Reader.
Speaker 1: Well, joining us now is Myron Central Nathan from the UK,
Speaker 1: former UK reform candidates.
Speaker 7: Lots to talk about.
Speaker 8: Myron.
Speaker 1: Always great to see you, thanks for staying up late
Speaker 1: and chatting to us. I wanted to first talk about
Speaker 1: this banning the Burker in Britain. So this Reform UK
Speaker 1: has called for a ban on the burker, but there
Speaker 1: seems to be some confusion around whether this is policy
Speaker 1: or one MP fill us in.
Speaker 18: Myron, Well, I think one of our MPs stood up
Speaker 18: and as our first question asked about whether we should
Speaker 18: ban the Burke and be in alignment with other numerous
Speaker 18: other European countries as well, and I think he wanted
Speaker 18: to kind of put the cat amongst the pigeons as
Speaker 18: start the discussion on the burker, which he actually has.
Speaker 18: I mean, Muslims will say that the burker is a
Speaker 18: sign of you know, piety and modesty, and people make
Speaker 18: the argument that the States shouldn't actually intervene in telling.
Speaker 10: Women what to wear or what not to wear.
Speaker 18: But the argument against that the Nigel Farage has made
Speaker 18: is that it's potentially a security threat. But I would
Speaker 18: even add to that that the main issue is the
Speaker 18: cultural situation, the integration. I mean part of Western society
Speaker 18: communication is built on face to face communication and the
Speaker 18: burka is quite literally an anti integration attire. And I
Speaker 18: think when you live in a country that is actually
Speaker 18: becoming increasingly fractured after mass migration, we need to do
Speaker 18: whatever we can to remove any barriers for integration, and
Speaker 18: we need the state to intervene and actually safeguard British
Speaker 18: culture because we're to ushering in the age of commonality,
Speaker 18: not actually and actually leave behind the age of diversity.
Speaker 10: And I think that's what this is really about.
Speaker 18: And if we don't have the strength to actually ban
Speaker 18: the burker, I worry about whether we have the strength
Speaker 18: to actually stand up for Western British ideals in general,
Speaker 18: and I think that that's what this is really about.
Speaker 4: Well, there's also beyond the security and integration the women's
Speaker 4: rights issue.
Speaker 6: The burker is.
Speaker 4: A tool of oppression. It is so dehumanizing for women,
Speaker 4: it completely removes them from society. Why is that argument
Speaker 4: not being made more forcefully that if you support women's rights,
Speaker 4: you cannot be pro burker. This is not just a choice.
Speaker 4: We're talking about a garment that hides all expression.
Speaker 18: Well, I think that's the argument from what I would
Speaker 18: use and you would use and so on. But there
Speaker 18: is the you know, the other side of the fence,
Speaker 18: and the Moslim argam would be that it's a sign
Speaker 18: of piety, it's a sign of I want to be
Speaker 18: loyal to my husband. I don't want to tempt are
Speaker 18: the men. I don't want the gaze of other men
Speaker 18: upon me. I want to become more dedicated to God
Speaker 18: and more and deepen my spiritual connection. And so there's
Speaker 18: all of those arguments that usually come back from the
Speaker 18: other side. But behind that, who is really going to
Speaker 18: speak out and say, I'm a Muslim woman, I'm being
Speaker 18: oppressed and I'm wearing a burker. I mean, the very
Speaker 18: fact that you're wearing a burker is a sign that
Speaker 18: you're being oppressed and you're not going to speak out obviously.
Speaker 1: Well, last time I was in Selfridges, there must have
Speaker 1: been an awful lot of people who are dedicated to
Speaker 1: God and party.
Speaker 7: That's what I'll sound.
Speaker 5: I mean, the burker does feel a bit like the
Speaker 5: vegan cat. Someone else is making the decisions there. But
Speaker 5: you know, I want to ask you, Myron though about
Speaker 5: this other story which has come out of the UK
Speaker 5: Telegraph this week utterly shocking. According to this this group
Speaker 5: called Prevent, which is the anti radicalization government program, they're
Speaker 5: now saying that the real radical threat is people who
Speaker 5: think that just maybe there's a problem with integration and
Speaker 5: that Western culture is under threat from my and who
Speaker 5: come in great numbers and don't integrate. And they're saying
Speaker 5: that this is now cultural nationalism, and they suggest that
Speaker 5: this is a radical ideology that needs to be stepped
Speaker 5: out and have people re educated on. This is really concerning,
Speaker 5: and this is where I think people like Darmatic Cummings
Speaker 5: have been going and warning of just how terrified the
Speaker 5: British state is of people in Britain being concerned that
Speaker 5: their country is being taken away from them.
Speaker 18: Yeah, you're absolutely right. I'm concerned. This is massive Prevent.
Speaker 18: It is a government organization designed to stop terrorism, and
Speaker 18: terrorism is eventually blowing things up or driving cars into people.
Speaker 18: But instead they've managed to turn their attention to far
Speaker 18: right terrorism in particular, which only makes up a tiny
Speaker 18: fragment of terrorism.
Speaker 10: Most of it is Islamist.
Speaker 18: And it seems to be homing in on people who
Speaker 18: are concerned about mass immigration, who are concerned about, as
Speaker 18: you said, cultural nationalism, which seems to be a buzzword
Speaker 18: for really just being patron and so what they're looking
Speaker 18: to do is refer such people to a deradicalization program.
Speaker 18: And it's interesting. One of the points that was made
Speaker 18: in that Telegraph article was that Kirs Starmer himself recently
Speaker 18: made a speech about the country becoming an island of
Speaker 18: strangers as a result of mass immigration, so perhaps he
Speaker 18: might be referred to Prevent. But the issue of this
Speaker 18: is is that Prevent they're silencing the majority, They're silencing
Speaker 18: common opinion.
Speaker 10: And I'm really concerned about this.
Speaker 18: I don't want to sound like hyperbolic or overly dystopian,
Speaker 18: but I'm concerned about violence erupting We've had Professor David Betts,
Speaker 18: an academic of war studies, actually map out that when
Speaker 18: you have a combination of mass immigration, economic decline and
Speaker 18: government overreach, then you are you're setting a situation which
Speaker 18: is right for this kind of violence and these kind
Speaker 18: of tensions to develop. Even just recently Lisa Nandy, the
Speaker 18: Culture Secretary, she openly said that parts of England look
Speaker 18: like they're about to go up in flames. So prevent
Speaker 18: the government established and really need to get a grip
Speaker 18: of the situation and understand the nees, the feelings and
Speaker 18: the tensions that are building and instead of actually trying
Speaker 18: to stamp it out, give them a voice and actually
Speaker 18: deal with the concerns at the root level.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and Myron part of that is obviously the illegal
Speaker 1: immigrants pouring in over the border. The problem that has
Speaker 1: been since Brexit is that after Brexit, Britain didn't pull
Speaker 1: out of the European Court of Human Rights, which means
Speaker 1: that anybody coming across the border can just go straight
Speaker 1: to the to the Court.
Speaker 7: Of Human Rights there in Europe.
Speaker 1: Kenny Badenoch has now joined basically imitating the policy of
Speaker 1: reform and saying we're going to pull out of the ECHR.
Speaker 7: What do you make of that?
Speaker 1: Of the Conservatives in our copying Reform very blatantly.
Speaker 18: Well, it's interesting, she hasn't quite mimicked Reform yet.
Speaker 10: So Kirs Starmer is absolutely.
Speaker 18: Wedded to the ECCHR because it's against his religion to
Speaker 18: leave it. Nigel Farage has openly declared that he will
Speaker 18: leave the ECCHR, and Kenny Baynook called a massive press
Speaker 18: conference to announce that she may be leaving these And
Speaker 18: the reason why she's so tentative is because her party
Speaker 18: is deeply split on this issue. I always say about
Speaker 18: the Conservative Party it's two souls trapped in one body.
Speaker 18: So she's fearful of her own members of her own party,
Speaker 18: So she's creeping up to the issue bit by bit
Speaker 18: by bit, trying to, you know, desensitize them to the
Speaker 18: shock of what's going to happen when they actually potentially
Speaker 18: do leave the ESHR. But yes, she's playing catch up
Speaker 18: with Reform UK exactly that.
Speaker 4: And the Bedweaters in the Tories continue to hold them back,
Speaker 4: just like the Bedweathers in our Liberal party. And Reform
Speaker 4: is now leading several polls ahead of Labor, ahead of
Speaker 4: the Tories. Is this the end of the two party
Speaker 4: system effectively in the UK?
Speaker 10: It would seem so.
Speaker 18: I mean Nigel Farage, as I said to you last time,
Speaker 18: I think he's kind of declared, medically declared the Conservative
Speaker 18: Party dead and over and then yes, they're a third party.
Speaker 18: We no longer have a two party system. It's potentially
Speaker 18: a three party but or at least just two parties
Speaker 18: with Reform UK and Labor Kebby Baynok is on the ropes.
Speaker 18: It's quite likely that she might get ousted by the
Speaker 18: end of the year. And the Conservative Party are changing
Speaker 18: chairman's like socks, and they're changing leaders like underwear. So
Speaker 18: that's the state of the Conservative Party right now.
Speaker 10: Will it survive? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Sounds very similar to what's something over here, dear idea
Speaker 1: And just quickly before you go, Myron. We played the
Speaker 1: Dawn French clip earlier where she appeared to be mocking
Speaker 1: the idea of October seventh, mocking Jewish people for.
Speaker 7: In some weird accent that she was putting on.
Speaker 1: She's now apologized, which is great, but how common is
Speaker 1: this sort of casual anti semitism in Britain?
Speaker 7: It seems to be getting worse. In my opinion, I
Speaker 7: think it is.
Speaker 18: I mean, amongst a celebrity, let's say, liberal elite class,
Speaker 18: there is an echo chamber and they see to sort
Speaker 18: of parrot the same things back at each other, pro Palestine,
Speaker 18: free Palestine, and so they believe the propaganda being released
Speaker 18: by her mass in particular. Look, I've got time for
Speaker 18: people who've got a genuine argument, you know, for the
Speaker 18: Palastinian side of the situation. But dorn French didn't really
Speaker 18: have a genuine argument. She trivialized the whole thing. October
Speaker 18: to seventh was a bad thing.
Speaker 10: Is the way does?
Speaker 18: She described it in a kind of mocking, self righteous tone. Look,
Speaker 18: she's apologized, we make mistakes. It was a moment of madness,
Speaker 18: I hope, and we hopefully can just draw a line
Speaker 18: under it. He's a national treasure. I hope she can
Speaker 18: move on for it and arrest the country can as well.
Speaker 1: Fantastic Myron, Great to chat to you as always, Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for staying up and speaking just here on
Speaker 1: Outsiders at Smyron Central. Nathan always great to have him
Speaker 1: on the show. After the break, net zany lefty Lunacy
Speaker 1: Whackdemia in a tick. You're watching Outsiders with Rita and
Speaker 1: James and myself Rowan, and thank you so much for
Speaker 1: watching us every Sunday morning. We certainly do appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Now it's net zany time. This is the insane world
Speaker 1: of net zero, cutting emissions renewables policies which are crippling
Speaker 1: this nation. We've said it here on this show so
Speaker 1: many times. We had deindustrializing, we had destroying our economy.
Speaker 1: Chris Bowen and the Labor Party are destroying our ability
Speaker 1: to manufacture, our ability to be an industrial power while
Speaker 1: they chase their fantasy of a renewable superpower which will
Speaker 1: never happen. James, that Tamago, We've got another bailout needed
Speaker 1: for another major industry.
Speaker 5: This is just absolutely shocking, but entirely predictable of Tomago.
Speaker 5: The aluminum smelter aluminium sorry smelter in New South Wales.
Speaker 5: This is a huge piece of industrial kit. It uses
Speaker 5: ten percent of New South Wales electricity supply and it
Speaker 5: uses it constantly because guess what, an aluminum smelter needs
Speaker 5: to keep running constantly because if it turns off, it freezes,
Speaker 5: and it's billions of dollars in davage they have. They
Speaker 5: are now apparently out there looking for substitues from care
Speaker 5: from New South Wales. I e US why because net
Speaker 5: zero energy policies have driven power prices up so much
Speaker 5: that they cannot afford to keep this going. This is
Speaker 5: not just an economic risk, it's also a jobs risk.
Speaker 5: They employ one thousand people, five thousand directly, but also
Speaker 5: it's a national security.
Speaker 4: C I will just import the aluminium from China.
Speaker 17: China.
Speaker 4: You know who's going to be the biggest superpower, renewable superpower.
Speaker 4: It's China, because they're the ones selling all this to us,
Speaker 4: fools that take our fossil fuels, enrich themselves and then
Speaker 4: sell us this crap that we used to impoverish out.
Speaker 5: That's fantastically There's another little bit though to this story
Speaker 5: that people don't fully get here, and it really hasn't
Speaker 5: been properly explored. But let me tell you about this here.
Speaker 5: One of the interesting things here is that New South
Speaker 5: Wales is like other states, going forward to these massive,
Speaker 5: massive transmission projects which are already costing well over the money. Now,
Speaker 5: if Tom goes bust, if they can't do this anymore,
Speaker 5: suddenly that's ten percent less electricity in the grid, which
Speaker 5: means those treads, the cost of those transmission power programs
Speaker 5: become even higher for everybody else remaining. The entire economics
Speaker 5: of this green netzer transition are built on sand. You
Speaker 5: talk to people in the industry, they all know it.
Speaker 5: The only people who don't seem to know it are
Speaker 5: the people in Chris Bowen's office.
Speaker 1: And I tell you this is, in my opinion, it
Speaker 1: is criminal. What is going on is absolutely criminal. Future generations,
Speaker 1: we'll look back with so much anger at what labor
Speaker 1: and the entire and the liberals they've been part of
Speaker 1: this as well, this whole net zero madness. They still
Speaker 1: are until it stops. But let me just let's just
Speaker 1: go back to basics. It's always worth reminding ourselves of
Speaker 1: why we are doing all this, Why we can't do
Speaker 1: aluminium any longer. Why because apparently the world is getting
Speaker 1: warmer and warmer and the planet is heating up because
Speaker 1: of global warming, because of carbon emissions.
Speaker 7: YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: Oh in it other news today, Perisher got off to
Speaker 1: a fantastic start, a freezing cold start to the snow season.
Speaker 7: One of the great starts of the year for the
Speaker 7: official opening.
Speaker 1: You know, the snows, the snow reads are fantastic. We'll
Speaker 1: look if you get down to the snow there, folks,
Speaker 1: it's all there.
Speaker 7: Remind me again why we're white. Can't remember it anyway.
Speaker 4: I thought we weren't going to have these sort of
Speaker 4: tree seasons anymore. That's actually children weren't going to be
Speaker 4: able to experience snow because of global warming. But guess what,
Speaker 4: there's also bad news because not only is there more snow,
Speaker 4: but fire now is hotter. Climate is making fire hotter.
Speaker 7: Climate change. Have a listen.
Speaker 19: Water bombers won't won't put out most of the whites
Speaker 19: of fires out of control, but you could stop it
Speaker 19: early if you could, because the nature of twenty first
Speaker 19: century fire is very different from twentieth century fire. Because
Speaker 19: of a climate crisis, it's change fire behavior. It's made
Speaker 19: fires much harder put out and much more dangerous for communities.
Speaker 7: Ah, this is stupid, is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: The only fires that are harder to put out are
Speaker 1: because of climate change policies, evy lithium batteries. Those are
Speaker 1: the files that are so hard to put out, not
Speaker 1: nature's fires because of climate change.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, and also I would be really willing
Speaker 5: to bet. I don't know Canada's policies on these sorts
Speaker 5: of things, but I have a real feeling that in Canada,
Speaker 5: and you know, I love how these people probably all
Speaker 5: have these yard sides out that say, you know, in
Speaker 5: this house, we believe science is real, which of course
Speaker 5: means that.
Speaker 8: Fire is hotter than it used to be.
Speaker 5: Okay, sure, But I bet also in Canada that they
Speaker 5: have the exact same problem that we have here, which
Speaker 5: is that they don't do any backburning, any removal of
Speaker 5: dead brush, any of the sort of things that create
Speaker 5: these huge, massive fuel accumulations that we used to do
Speaker 5: in the twentieth century. Maybe, guys, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 5: that's what's making twenty first century harder and harder to Porto.
Speaker 4: It's the global warming.
Speaker 7: Flames are harder than they used to be.
Speaker 4: Back in my day, fire was cold. I mean, I
Speaker 4: think the proof is in the pudding right there.
Speaker 1: But that's but I'm serious about the EV stuff. There
Speaker 1: was this inferno on this EV ship. So these lithium batteries,
Speaker 1: which we're bringing more and more of their massive virus
Speaker 1: once they start burning you can't put them out. There's
Speaker 1: this cargo ship James carrying around three thousand of these evs.
Speaker 1: It's been abandoned off Alaska, and it's just on Sire Alaska.
Speaker 4: So what we've got, what about the pollution issue?
Speaker 7: Just going to burn away for weeks?
Speaker 4: Do you remember?
Speaker 5: I remember when I was a kid, there was a
Speaker 5: thing called the Excellent Valdez exactly, and it was this
Speaker 5: oil still in Alaska, and you know, it became this huge,
Speaker 5: big environmental cause here with everybody, you're scrubbing the poor
Speaker 5: penguins and everything from all the oil that had gotten
Speaker 5: all over them. But like, if you've got three thousand
Speaker 5: or eight hundred how many evs this was on this
Speaker 5: ship here going up in flames and all of their
Speaker 5: chemicals getting dumped into the ocean, that would seem like
Speaker 5: it was a huge environmental catastrophe. And yet oh, because
Speaker 5: oh no, no, we need the evs to save the planet,
Speaker 5: except for the testas because they're fascist. Oh no, wait,
Speaker 5: they're not fascist anymore. I don't know, it's so hard
Speaker 5: to keep up, you know, we don't hear a word, right.
Speaker 1: So they're all going to be rushing out and buying
Speaker 1: that tell u us not getting the rid of the
Speaker 1: scratches putting.
Speaker 8: Can you do the pain so quick quick?
Speaker 7: Let's let's get Can you imagine the number.
Speaker 8: Of people who are out there searching, you know this week?
Speaker 5: How do I get the I bought this tesla before
Speaker 5: elive was a fascist sticker off my car without ruining
Speaker 5: the paint.
Speaker 1: Now tell us about the Victorian energy minister again, the
Speaker 1: lights will go out.
Speaker 7: They're warning us in Victoria, what you've got to.
Speaker 4: Be energy policy is possibly the craziest in the country.
Speaker 4: In fact, no, it is the craziest. There's a state
Speaker 4: blessed with natural resources, hundreds of years of gas reserves
Speaker 4: sitting there's no exploration. And you know what again we
Speaker 4: talk about the liberals. The liberals are complicit in this madness.
Speaker 4: The Liberals, along with Labor, voter to change Victorious Constitution
Speaker 4: to limit gas explorations. So that's not going to get
Speaker 4: changed back. Labour's never going to vote to change that,
Speaker 4: not probably in our lifetime. So we've got this mad situation.
Speaker 4: We're going to be importing gas, we've got shortages, we've
Speaker 4: got sky high prices when we are sitting on hundreds
Speaker 4: of years of reserve and the world crazy.
Speaker 5: The wild thing about your gas in Victoria, reader, is
Speaker 5: that most of it is so close to the surface.
Speaker 5: You don't really need to do drilling or a lot
Speaker 5: of hydraulic graphs, everything like that. The gas is so
Speaker 5: close to the surface that it's barely invasive at all,
Speaker 5: and yet you can't get it. Remember when gas what's
Speaker 5: going to be the transition fuel?
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: Gas was green for a period before it became more
Speaker 4: evil than electricity.
Speaker 5: And cook on these crappy induction cook cover if you
Speaker 5: look to pan up to think beeps that you know,
Speaker 5: forget it.
Speaker 4: You can't put a wock on one of those, can you.
Speaker 8: It's no fun cooking. It's sorry, it's no fun.
Speaker 4: But Victoria is mad. It was the CEO of Santos
Speaker 4: who said, it's like in the North Korea is a
Speaker 4: new South Wales, South Australia, w A. You can do
Speaker 4: business with those states, but when it comes to Victoria,
Speaker 4: it's just madness. It's possibly why we have the biggest
Speaker 4: debt of any state in the country. Why the place
Speaker 4: is going broke and our taxes are sky high. And
Speaker 4: I said before the election, if Albernezer gets the second term,
Speaker 4: we're going to see the Victoria vocation of Australia, and
Speaker 4: I think we're going to see that there.
Speaker 1: Is super while apparently the Liberals some New South Wales
Speaker 1: Liberal Party meeting yesterday, the bedwetters were they're wetting the
Speaker 1: bed I guess and insisting that the Liberal Party go
Speaker 1: embrace that zero and get more like the Teals and.
Speaker 4: Get more and then elections.
Speaker 10: Unbelievable that already happened.
Speaker 1: You're going to keep you know, seriously, Australia, it's the
Speaker 1: Australians who are the losers. We need a strong If
Speaker 1: the Liberals aren't prepared to step up and be a
Speaker 1: proper coalition, then we need the Nationals to do so.
Speaker 1: As you were saying earlier, areta maybe in conjunction with
Speaker 1: one Nation, maybe a National Conservative Party something. We desperately
Speaker 1: need an opposition that opposes That's what we need. Not
Speaker 1: too much to ask, you would think in a Western
Speaker 1: sterdem democracy don't go away after the break, got a
Speaker 1: little bit sad.
Speaker 7: About feminism in a tool.
Speaker 1: Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Rita Suffragette, Panahee, James the
Speaker 1: Man Morrow and myself Rowan seek Freedom.
Speaker 7: Dean may I please ask.
Speaker 1: Ever so respectfully and admitting my own membership of the
Speaker 1: much maligned patriarchy, What on earth happened to women? I
Speaker 1: don't mean women spelt with an eye, or even women
Speaker 1: of the what women really want variety, or even women
Speaker 1: the oppressed victims of male domination. No, what I'm referring
Speaker 1: to is women as a political force for good in
Speaker 1: the world. Idealistic and passionate young women who believe in reason, peacemaking,
Speaker 1: and common sense as the best way to solve the
Speaker 1: world's problems. Those are the women I grew up with
Speaker 1: and was taught to admire and did admire the women
Speaker 1: of the seventies and eighties, young women who were determined
Speaker 1: to make the world a better place, and did so
Speaker 1: with talent, with humor, and with verve.
Speaker 7: Their greatest dream was to head off to Israel.
Speaker 1: To work on a kibbutz for three months, or to
Speaker 1: help out on a charity appeal, or to get a
Speaker 1: job working for some do good or organization or other. Yes,
Speaker 1: they called themselves feminists, and as men, we may have
Speaker 1: cracked jokes about them or teased them, but of course,
Speaker 1: deep down we secretly admired them. And fancied them obviously,
Speaker 1: So what went so very very wrong? This clip popped
Speaker 1: up on social media over the weekend of a youngestro
Speaker 1: Alian woman lamenting going to university and failing to live
Speaker 1: the Australian dream, being disappointed feminism has clearly not delivered
Speaker 1: what she had been told it would. And it's a
Speaker 1: common story.
Speaker 20: You've gone to UNI, you finished school, gone to UNI,
Speaker 20: you got a degree which is meant to get you
Speaker 20: a good job, and that job is meant to pay
Speaker 20: for a house and maybe a holiday once a year,
Speaker 20: and maybe it had some kids, and that's not happening now,
Speaker 20: and you're kind of just like, what's the actual point
Speaker 20: of anything, Like I'm twenty eight and I kind of
Speaker 20: thought by now, like I might have like a three
Speaker 20: bedroom house, maybe like thinking about kids, maybe successful in
Speaker 20: my career.
Speaker 7: As I said, a very common story. You'll hear it everywhere.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this because of two things. The
Speaker 1: Grace Tame Nike incident we spoke about earlier, and two
Speaker 1: interesting articles in the Australian newspaper over the weekend. I'll
Speaker 1: get onto those in a tick. Let's start with the
Speaker 1: Grace Tame incident. Grace Tame is a former Australian of
Speaker 1: the Year. Unwarranted in my opinion, but there you go,
Speaker 1: a woman who suffered a great deal as a schoolgirl
Speaker 1: but went on to become an icon of the Australian
Speaker 1: feminism movement in a weird kind of pairing with the
Speaker 1: even more unlikely Britney Higgins. The two of them were
Speaker 1: presented to young Australian girls for the past decade as
Speaker 1: the perfect role models of Australian feminism. They made their
Speaker 1: speeches and were lionized by the left.
Speaker 7: And how did they use that role model status? Not
Speaker 7: very well?
Speaker 1: Went bore you with the Brittney Higgins saga. We all
Speaker 1: made up our minds long ago about that particular individual
Speaker 1: and event. But I will mention Grace Tame rudeness became
Speaker 1: her stock in trade. Being rude to Prime Minister Morrison
Speaker 1: was lauded, being rude, ambushing Prime Minister Albanesi with an
Speaker 1: F Murdock T shirt.
Speaker 7: T shirt was.
Speaker 1: Regarded as a great protest, all so brave, such originality.
Speaker 1: But then last week her Auntie Israel rantings were revealed.
Speaker 1: We detailed them here on the show and I won't
Speaker 1: repeat them because they deserved to be treated with nothing
Speaker 1: but scorn and derision. And now, as I implored on
Speaker 1: the show last week, Nike has sacked her from her
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollar ambassador's role for that brand. Good
Speaker 1: well done, Nike, and thank you to all the outsiders
Speaker 1: who made that happen or helped make it happen, proving
Speaker 1: as I've said many times, that together we can force
Speaker 1: these corporations to change their leftist behavior. Personally, I would
Speaker 1: argue that if Grace Tame's offense was such that Nike
Speaker 1: felt compelled to sacker, we the Australian people, should also
Speaker 1: demand she'd be stripped of her Australian of the Year
Speaker 1: status and be removed from any taxpayer funded roles.
Speaker 7: But that's just me.
Speaker 1: But sadly, rather than being the exception to the rule,
Speaker 1: Grace Tame is absolutely typical of today's breed of young feminists,
Speaker 1: most of whom, in my opinion, fit a rather unsavory mold.
Speaker 7: They're narcissistic, they're.
Speaker 1: Hateful, they're incredibly rude. They rely on profanities rather than
Speaker 1: arguing a sound political point, whatever that point may be.
Speaker 1: They are politically shallow and deeply deeply unpleasant.
Speaker 7: But Grace Tame is far from alone.
Speaker 1: She has plenty of company, including high profile individuals Abby
Speaker 1: Chatfield to Ford, so many others. One of the articles
Speaker 1: I mentioned in the Weekend Australian was in the Weekend
Speaker 1: Australian and it's.
Speaker 7: Well worth a read.
Speaker 1: It's by Julie Sego and it's entitled how Clementine Ford
Speaker 1: went from must read feminist to inciting hatred against Israel.
Speaker 7: In her article, Julie.
Speaker 1: Sego reveals how much she used to look She used
Speaker 1: to look forward to and enjoy reading Clementine Ford, who
Speaker 1: used to write a column for the Sidney Morning Herald
Speaker 1: and the Age column about man's sex life in general.
Speaker 1: But then Clementine Ford got disciplined while in that lucrative
Speaker 1: gig for using the F word against Scott Morrison. Seems
Speaker 1: the F word is popular with young feminists. Ford has
Speaker 1: now moved on from railing against men to railing against
Speaker 1: Jews or zios as she calls people who support Israel,
Speaker 1: as Julie Sego writes quote as is the case with
Speaker 1: many Israel loaths. Clementine Ford's lies grew darker as she
Speaker 1: descended deeper into conspiracy. She shared an inographic accusing Israel
Speaker 1: of training dogs.
Speaker 7: To rape Palestinians.
Speaker 1: When in September the bodies of six Israeli hostages were
Speaker 1: found in tunnels in Gaza, having been shot at close range,
Speaker 1: Clementine Ford said, I don't for a second believe that Harmass.
Speaker 7: Executed those hostages.
Speaker 1: This was a lie forward insisted to manufacture consent for
Speaker 1: the IDF's genocide. I mean, this stuff is just Julie Sego,
Speaker 1: by the way, details all this obnoxious stuff, and it's
Speaker 1: worth pointing out that she, as a journalist, used to
Speaker 1: in fact is a very admirable and brave woman. She
Speaker 1: was sacked by the Age newspaper apparently for daring to
Speaker 1: criticize the rampant trans and woke ideology at that outlet,
Speaker 1: and good honor, well done. She also attended the famous
Speaker 1: Let Women Speak rally in Melbourne with those other brave
Speaker 1: women more redeeming Catherine Deeves and others. Again, Julie Sego
Speaker 1: a woman to be admired. But back to her must
Speaker 1: read art about Clementine Ford, where she writes to Clementine
Speaker 1: Ford also accuses those who support Israel or criticize Clementine
Speaker 1: as repugnant, brainwashed racists who flatter themselves that they're the
Speaker 1: most moral people on earth. There are not enough babies
Speaker 1: in the world who could be bombed to satisfy Zionus
Speaker 1: ideological Further, this is sick stuff.
Speaker 7: Again. The F word and the sea word.
Speaker 1: Are used liberally by Clementine Ford with depressing regularity, f
Speaker 1: Israel and so on, which, as far as political slogans go,
Speaker 1: let's face, it is neither clever nor particularly illuminating. In fact,
Speaker 1: using the F word as your major political comment has
Speaker 1: to be the definition of laziness to the point of
Speaker 1: being brain dead. Which brings us to another young feminist
Speaker 1: heroine who fits this same anti Jewish relying on profanasis
Speaker 1: pattern to a t.
Speaker 7: Gret Tathumburg.
Speaker 1: When Greta first magically appeared on the scene, lauded by
Speaker 1: the left as some kind of Swedish savant schoolgirl, supposedly
Speaker 1: a modern Joan of arc railing against the sins of
Speaker 1: men kind, namely climate change. Back then we weren't allowed
Speaker 1: to criticize her a because of her young age and
Speaker 1: b because of her spectrum disorder. Well, she has no
Speaker 1: fine wine. She has not improved with age, at all.
Speaker 1: Greta is the queen of incandescent rage against authority. Hilariously,
Speaker 1: most of the world took her how dare you speech?
Speaker 4: Seriously, this is all wrong.
Speaker 7: I shouldn't be up here.
Speaker 15: I should be back in school on the other side
Speaker 15: of the ocean.
Speaker 7: Yes, perhaps you should have been. Indeed, how dare you?
Speaker 1: Greta was such a devotee of getting rid of fossil
Speaker 1: fuels that she traveled famously traveled on a yacht to
Speaker 1: one of the many global warming conferences.
Speaker 7: There's a great gimmick.
Speaker 1: But like most climate fanatics, she has apparently switched to
Speaker 1: fossil fuels when a higher cause demands it. Now Greta
Speaker 1: is wandering around the Mediterranean and on a reportedly diesel
Speaker 1: powered ship, intent on saving Gaza from the evil Israelis
Speaker 1: or some such nonsense. And of course she too liies
Speaker 1: on that snappy four letter word to make her point.
Speaker 7: Is great role role model.
Speaker 1: There another brilliant article, Illustratim, came out on Friday, written
Speaker 1: by the talented young writer Zoe Booth, and it was
Speaker 1: an insightful critique of another young Australian hard left girl
Speaker 1: boss and so called female influencer Hannah Ferguson, who calls
Speaker 1: herself proudly progressive and says if she had a political slogan,
Speaker 1: it would be I'm not pale.
Speaker 7: Male or stale. Wow, how original inspiring that is.
Speaker 1: Hannah Ferguson is a regular on the ABC and social media,
Speaker 1: even spoke at the National Press Club recently. Clearly the
Speaker 1: left adore her. But as Zoe Booth wrote in her
Speaker 1: article on Friday about the Press Club speech, quote, whether
Speaker 1: it was Hannah Ferguson's naive claims about an Israeli genocide
Speaker 1: blood libel is very in with feminist influences lately. See
Speaker 1: Grace Taine, Greta Tundberg, Abby Chatfield, Clementine Ford, or her
Speaker 1: apparent belief that she's the only woman succeeding in alternative media.
Speaker 1: I spent right, Zoe Booth, so much time wincing while
Speaker 1: listening to her address. I should invoice her for the
Speaker 1: cost of removing the wrinkless she edged on my forehead.
Speaker 1: Great stuff and great writing there, Zoe. Zoe Booth, by
Speaker 1: the way, was her self a left winger in her
Speaker 1: adolescence who spoke last year about her transition from radical
Speaker 1: leftists to them or I guess conservative common sense worldview.
Speaker 1: Here's a snippet as Zoe Booth explains the attraction for
Speaker 1: young women in this simplistic to this simplistic, hateful narrative
Speaker 1: about the patriarchy which has pedaled to all young Australian women.
Speaker 21: All that little girls are treated differently as they get
Speaker 21: older and become women.
Speaker 6: Why is that the case?
Speaker 21: You know, Well, because there's a patriarchy and that's the
Speaker 21: answer to it. It's simply that men are you know,
Speaker 21: power hungry people who will abuse women. Oh okay, done that.
Speaker 21: It seems very simple to me and it answered my questions.
Speaker 21: It made me angry, but it just answered questions for me.
Speaker 1: And Zoe went on to question and become a great
Speaker 1: writer writing for Quillette and The Australian other places.
Speaker 7: But this is the problem.
Speaker 1: Young Australian girls are taught to feel victimized and angry.
Speaker 1: Many of them get seduced by this idea of being nasty,
Speaker 1: are being spiteful? I fueled my hatred in order to
Speaker 1: get then rewarded with deplauded social media, taxpayer under grants,
Speaker 1: Other accolades, schools eulogize them and of course, universities lionize them.
Speaker 1: Dare criticize these girls and you are a misogynist. Arrogance
Speaker 1: fuels narcissism, and all the while Australia's daughters are being
Speaker 1: taught to be like these women, to idolize them for
Speaker 1: their so called courage, and many choose to emulate them.
Speaker 1: Yet at heart, what do these individuals offer. Profanities and
Speaker 1: slogans which are apt to inspire due hatred, not a
Speaker 1: pretty mix.
Speaker 7: Australian girls deserve so much better.
Speaker 1: So let me start by nominating some better role models
Speaker 1: for Ossie girls. How about emulating those women who are
Speaker 1: prepared to defy the stifling political correctness of the left,
Speaker 1: and who refuse to be seduced by the lure of
Speaker 1: social media fame feeding off profanities and ugly hatreds. Women
Speaker 1: who are prepared to defy, to stand up for themselves,
Speaker 1: to think for themselves. Women, I might I say, like
Speaker 1: those two writers at The Australian, Julie Zego and Zoe.
Speaker 7: Booth, Well here's a tree.
Speaker 1: New South Wales Libertarian Party MLC John Ruddick joins us
Speaker 1: now live in the studio outsider. His fans know John
Speaker 1: very well, good to see you back here in the studio,
Speaker 1: John Life to say you're out now you'd gone on
Speaker 1: some success. The success John was of course a liber
Speaker 1: You wrote a book Make the Liberal Party Great Again,
Speaker 1: great slogan all the way back in twenty seventeen. They
Speaker 1: ignored you completely and so you said goodbye Liberals and
Speaker 1: started got involved with the libertarians.
Speaker 7: And now you're in the New South Wales Parliament where
Speaker 7: you are now calling and.
Speaker 1: This great article in the Spectator about this, by the way,
Speaker 1: now you are calling for the gun rules, the gun
Speaker 1: laws that Australia is so famous for, to be overturned
Speaker 1: for New South Wales.
Speaker 7: To allow more access to guns for the citizens. Explain
Speaker 7: why in asteratic, Well.
Speaker 22: Look, we believe that in the Libertarian party that government
Speaker 22: is inherently dangerous. So classical liberals and libertarians have a
Speaker 22: lot of overlap. But the classical liberals, people like Ronald Bragan,
Speaker 22: Margaret that they say government is fundamentally good. We need
Speaker 22: to keep it small, but it is fundamentally good. Libertarians,
Speaker 22: we think we know our history better. We say government
Speaker 22: is inherently dangerous because they tend to morph into tyrannies.
Speaker 22: The very first thing a dictatorship does when it comes
Speaker 22: to power is it disarms the people. So what we
Speaker 22: say is, like the American Founding Fathers, we say it's
Speaker 22: healthy for there to be a counterweight against state power.
Speaker 22: So the anti gun activists, I'm not saying they don't
Speaker 22: want any guns in society. They're saying that they want
Speaker 22: the government to have a monopoly on guns, and we
Speaker 22: say that's danger and this is why the American Founding
Speaker 22: Fathers were right.
Speaker 1: Now, you put forward four arguments, two of which I
Speaker 1: found pretty compelling and interesting.
Speaker 7: The first being.
Speaker 1: We saw so what you're talking about government going way
Speaker 1: beyond what it should be doing, we actually saw it
Speaker 1: out in COVID for the first time in Australia. We
Speaker 1: got a glimpse of what's an Australian elected authoritarian government
Speaker 1: looks like.
Speaker 7: And it was very, very ugly and a lot of.
Speaker 1: People still haven't recovered from that. The use of force
Speaker 1: against the population. Your second argument, which is a fascinating
Speaker 1: one in light of what we've seen in the last week,
Speaker 1: where Anthony Albanezia said we don't need any more defense
Speaker 1: in Australia.
Speaker 7: You're arguing that when a citizen.
Speaker 1: The citizens are armed, other nations are going to think
Speaker 1: twice about maybe getting as aggressive as they would. If
Speaker 1: those arguments are pretty interesting, explain the rationale behind them.
Speaker 22: Well, look, we should assume that Australia sometime in the
Speaker 22: next century or two is going to be invaded. We
Speaker 22: hope it won't be, but we should assume that there
Speaker 22: will be some Napoleonic figure marching across Asia and they
Speaker 22: could wipe out the Australian defense force. We've got a
Speaker 22: good defense force, but it is relatively small. Okay, so
Speaker 22: let's say the defense forces wiped out and we're disarmed.
Speaker 22: They're going to think this is a piece of cake.
Speaker 22: We can march and here we'll run the whole show. If,
Speaker 22: on the other hand, they think every second house might
Speaker 22: have a firearm, they can think we'll take out the
Speaker 22: defense force, but then we'll have a pretty serious counter resistance.
Speaker 22: So that's why they will be more reluctant.
Speaker 7: To invade Australia.
Speaker 22: And the COVID argument, well, look, we believe that COVID
Speaker 22: was potentially just the beginning of what they're trying to do.
Speaker 22: As soon as COVID are over, they start racking up
Speaker 22: all this anti free speech and stuff. So they treated
Speaker 22: us like farm animals in COVID. But they didn't in
Speaker 22: America because the American government knows that you can't push
Speaker 22: the American people around too much or they can revolt.
Speaker 8: And that's what that's.
Speaker 4: Why libertarians are just, you know, a little bit wacky,
Speaker 4: like you guys have some good ideas, but in the
Speaker 4: end you just go off the reservation. I mean America. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Florida and Texas, the Red States were pretty free, but
Speaker 4: they had even more stringent rules in parts of the states,
Speaker 4: including New York, California, Canadians as.
Speaker 7: Bad as Australia.
Speaker 4: As Australia.
Speaker 22: Australia, they were Melbourne had a two hundred day lockdown
Speaker 22: read it was the world record by California.
Speaker 4: They were chasing people down at the beach who were
Speaker 4: by themselves. They were locking up people for opening up
Speaker 4: their shops. I mean, and Canada were banning the bank
Speaker 4: accounts of truckers for just having a peaceful anti lockdown protest.
Speaker 4: They've got plenty of guns there. I understand in theory,
Speaker 4: but I just think in actice this would be madness.
Speaker 22: Well, I have what's your argument, so you say you opposed,
Speaker 22: but I don't.
Speaker 7: I've a refuge reader. I haven't heard what I need
Speaker 7: to refuge it. Okay, argument that I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: Argument what I'm refuging. The claim that if we had arms,
Speaker 4: we wouldn't have had the COVID conditions.
Speaker 22: Okay, well, okay, let's address that one. Okay, In the
Speaker 22: United States, about seventy five percent of people took two
Speaker 22: of the warp speed vaccines. In Australia it's ninety eight percent.
Speaker 22: They had the same they had the same political leadership,
Speaker 22: corporate media and everyone shouting take your backs, take your backs,
Speaker 22: take you back.
Speaker 7: It's a very big difference.
Speaker 4: If we had a mandate here, you couldn't go to
Speaker 4: most I tried.
Speaker 10: To do that.
Speaker 22: They tried to do it.
Speaker 1: You're arguing that guns had some kind of like a
Speaker 1: gravity force.
Speaker 7: There again, the count streets the counterweight.
Speaker 8: Okay, look, did we get we get all that?
Speaker 5: I mean, like, we can get into the weeds with
Speaker 5: a argument about the teats of the American founding versus
Speaker 5: the Australian founding, and you know why the two countries
Speaker 5: might have a different sort of approach. But I would
Speaker 5: think that you know, in a highly pragmatic and practical
Speaker 5: nation like Australia. Wouldn't the argument be that number one,
Speaker 5: these rules have gone too far and anybody who you
Speaker 5: know has a rule property and has to deal with
Speaker 5: the authorities on just simple things like a twenty two
Speaker 5: even you know, for protection or for dealing with rabbits
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 8: You know, it's you.
Speaker 5: Know, they're treated to just they want to have, you know,
Speaker 5: an arsenal of AK forty sevens. But beyond that, though
Speaker 5: New South Wales we've seen a huge increase in the
Speaker 5: number of murders almost every week, you know, at least
Speaker 5: once a week. My pay of the Daily Telegraph reports
Speaker 5: on some shooting incident with handguns, which are apparently banned.
Speaker 5: But you know, I was coming across Cleveland Street several
Speaker 5: months ago when there was a shooting at a petrol
Speaker 5: station where it was an armed hit on some gangster type.
Speaker 5: Some criminals have got criminals have got God, government's got
Speaker 5: c pre citizens. It would seem to me that just
Speaker 5: in terms of the politics of this, this might get
Speaker 5: a bit more sort of traction in the community.
Speaker 1: Isn't the self defense argument a strong one because you have,
Speaker 1: for example, we've seen gangs with machetes down in Victoria.
Speaker 7: You know one of.
Speaker 4: Those gangs to have ready.
Speaker 7: Well, the gangs again are going to do what they're
Speaker 7: going to do.
Speaker 10: They're gonna do what they're going to do.
Speaker 1: Surely the self defense argument, I would like to be
Speaker 1: I had a gun as a kid.
Speaker 7: We had guns in Australia.
Speaker 1: Everyone did the ability to defend my family if.
Speaker 7: It came to it.
Speaker 4: John, We're so different because America. Like the arguments about
Speaker 4: what did the Americans get rid of their guns? Well,
Speaker 4: it's a mad argument because there's literally hundreds of millions
Speaker 4: of guns out there and if you got rid of guns,
Speaker 4: only the criminals would happen.
Speaker 22: It would be a terrible thing. But everyone wants to
Speaker 22: talk about the United States. Let's talk about another country.
Speaker 22: Let's talk about Switzerland. Switzerland has a very similar ratio
Speaker 22: of gun ownership to the United States. Yes, and they've
Speaker 22: got the lawest homicide rate in the world, So it's
Speaker 22: not the guns causing the homicides.
Speaker 8: Now in the United.
Speaker 22: States, there are states with a lower homicide rate than
Speaker 22: New South Wales, places like New Hampshire, where they've got
Speaker 22: the most relaxed gun laws in the world. At New
Speaker 22: Hampshire last year had eleven homicides out of every per
Speaker 22: million people. New South Wales was three times eight. So
Speaker 22: it's not the guns causing the problem. Now there are
Speaker 22: parts of America where, yes, there is a gun problem.
Speaker 22: Where's that inner city crime, gangs. It's not caused by
Speaker 22: the guns. It's caused by other social factors.
Speaker 4: True, But do you really want to have some of
Speaker 4: the lunatics we've got running around here, some of the
Speaker 4: political political extremists of the left, to have access to guns.
Speaker 4: Even they're doing some stuff.
Speaker 22: They're getting access to the guns, and then if they
Speaker 22: can't find then they'll use a machete. So the people, what
Speaker 22: you're saying, reader, is we want to be outsource our
Speaker 22: personal safety to the police. So you're gettingmugs, someone's break
Speaker 22: into your home, you're bringing up the cops best case
Speaker 22: out there in five minutes.
Speaker 7: Best case.
Speaker 22: These crimes are done in the matters of seconds, not minutes.
Speaker 22: So it's the personal safety. But there is the fourth
Speaker 22: argument that I mentioned in the speech, which the spectator
Speaker 22: a kindly run. Having your right to self defense makes
Speaker 22: you more of a rugged individualist, and this is why
Speaker 22: it makes you more creative, makes you feel like you're
Speaker 22: more of a man, and this is why the United States.
Speaker 7: And you're ready, do you want to be more of
Speaker 7: a man, you need a gun.
Speaker 22: This is why the United States has so much ingenuity
Speaker 22: and creativity that they've only invented things like mass produced cars, electricity,
Speaker 22: the Internet, AI computers, aeroplanes, Thank you America. So this
Speaker 22: is because they are they stand.
Speaker 7: On their own two feet.
Speaker 22: They don't want to outsource their safety and everything else
Speaker 22: to the government. Okay, but the major, the number one
Speaker 22: towering point why it's dangerous to have the government having
Speaker 22: a monopoly on guns is that history tells us government
Speaker 22: unchecked will grow into a tyranny. Now it's not gonna
Speaker 22: happen overnight, but it definitely that's how government does. It
Speaker 22: grows like a cancer. We need to keep it in check.
Speaker 22: We need to have the people with the right to
Speaker 22: bear arms.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 5: Again, though, I feel like, you know, with this argument
Speaker 5: about America versus Strea. And believe me, I've been here
Speaker 5: for twenty plus years and I have tried to, you know,
Speaker 5: make these American freedom arguments to Australians with limited success.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it must be said, simply because the nature of
Speaker 5: the two countries is different. Isn't the real argument here
Speaker 5: to create the culture of liberty and then out of
Speaker 5: that you get the desire for personal protection. Because right now,
Speaker 5: if you've got people who say, oh, well, we like government,
Speaker 5: I mean that was the crazy thing about this election.
Speaker 5: We just had you know, Albert Easy ran on protecting
Speaker 5: public servants, which is an American I thought, that's insane.
Speaker 8: Who wants to predict club it service?
Speaker 22: Well, James, I would say, prior to COVID, I would
Speaker 22: say that you're corrected. About three percent of Australians would
Speaker 22: have understood theose arguments that the founding fathers of America
Speaker 22: first made. I would say, Now, after COVID and after
Speaker 22: the explosion in straight crime, particularly in Victoria and in Queensland,
Speaker 22: I recoon it's down close to ten percent. And that's
Speaker 22: without without there being any discussion. So is my constitutional
Speaker 22: going to get through the new South Wales Parliament? My
Speaker 22: hunters are probably won't on this occasion. But as Confucius
Speaker 22: taught us, every long journey start with the first step.
Speaker 22: This is the first step. And look here we are
Speaker 22: on the outside on Sunday morning, promoting the need for
Speaker 22: the citizens to od guds. This might take some time,
Speaker 22: but we're going to continue to persist with it. It's in
Speaker 22: austral as long term interest.
Speaker 1: One argument which you've kind of put forward, but I
Speaker 1: think is backs up what you're saying, is of course
Speaker 1: the Clive James argument, which is that's Australians. The problem
Speaker 1: with Australians is not that we're descended from convicts, but
Speaker 1: that we're descended from prison offices, and those prison officers
Speaker 1: do seem to enjoy treating us like convicts and keeping
Speaker 1: us in our place.
Speaker 7: And we've seen this more and more and more.
Speaker 1: We talk the other day, we had we've had guests
Speaker 1: on who have every day their business is confronted by
Speaker 1: the overreach of red tape, green tape, black tape authoritarianism.
Speaker 1: And it is true, it is undeniable that this country
Speaker 1: is not the bastion of liberty that it was in
Speaker 1: the John Howard years. It has become far more authoritarian
Speaker 1: and if you need weapons as a balance. We've got
Speaker 1: mass immigration. We've got people coming from all over the world.
Speaker 1: Many people come from very violent cultures and countries and
Speaker 1: they're coming straight into this country. Dropped in the middle
Speaker 1: of this country. I think there are arguments for your case.
Speaker 22: Well, I am overwhelmingly optimistic about the future of Australia.
Speaker 22: Now we are in a bad patch. I believe John
Speaker 22: Howard is an overrated Prime minister. He disarmed us sinister,
Speaker 22: raising change wars, locked.
Speaker 7: In middle pass welfare.
Speaker 22: Okay, but I think that long term it was a
Speaker 22: dangerous thing what John Howard did. He's empowered the criminals
Speaker 22: and he's made the state bigger, bigger and bossier. But
Speaker 22: we can still turn this around. We've got plenty of
Speaker 22: Australia's got a fantastic foundation because for two hundred and
Speaker 22: twenty five years we've been a very We've been a
Speaker 22: capitalist country.
Speaker 7: Ok. We had when I was growing up. You used
Speaker 7: to be able to walk in the k martin buy
Speaker 7: a gun exactly one. As a kid, I shooting the
Speaker 7: VB cans off the fence. RITA is you're going to
Speaker 7: be convinced sooner or late.
Speaker 6: I could see you coming round.
Speaker 7: Maybe that's the sussful sources.
Speaker 4: If I was living in the States, within the first month,
Speaker 4: I would have a firearm. In Australia, it's a different
Speaker 4: Kelly Field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, fascinating argument. Thank you, John Good luck with
Speaker 1: that's in the New South Wales Parliament. That's great, that's
Speaker 1: John Roddick there MLC in the New South Wales pilom
Speaker 1: for the Libertarians party. After the break, James, don't give
Speaker 1: rt In a tick.
Speaker 5: Hello, you're watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan, don't believe
Speaker 5: your eyes Dean and Rita power of perception Pany and
Speaker 5: I'm James.
Speaker 8: Made you look Moorrow.
Speaker 5: Well, they say power is all about perception, and I
Speaker 5: guess that's true, because perception can be another word for
Speaker 5: making people believe things that aren't necessarily true, things like
Speaker 5: Democrats actually care about and are on the side of
Speaker 5: real Americans, which sometimes leads to hilarious moments like this
Speaker 5: one when they dressed Tim Waltz up like Elmer Fudd
Speaker 5: to show that he's a real man's man who loves
Speaker 5: hunting and guns and drinking beer and hanging out with
Speaker 5: the guys.
Speaker 8: But you know, I think you and I.
Speaker 5: Both know the truth about this that if you give
Speaker 5: a Democrat a choice between actually defending an American and
Speaker 5: sticking up for what they like to call an undocumented migrant,
Speaker 5: well guess what they're gonna take That second choice. The
Speaker 5: migrant every time. Exhibit a this man kill Albrego Garcia,
Speaker 5: a man routinely described in the press and by Democrats
Speaker 5: as a simple Maryland father, a migrant wrongly ripped from
Speaker 5: the arms of his loving family by Donald Trump's gestapo
Speaker 5: and sent to a notorious El Saladoran gulag.
Speaker 11: They mistakenly deported a Maria father with protected legal status
Speaker 11: to this horrific prison in El Salvador.
Speaker 6: The Marylander married to a.
Speaker 7: US citizen who is a five year old son with autism.
Speaker 6: Sir Garcia was abducted. He is a father, he is
Speaker 6: a husband, he's a union member.
Speaker 5: Well, good news left is that's right, baby, He's coming home.
Speaker 5: Kill Mark's coming back to the US, as the left
Speaker 5: wing newsers Axios first reported it with the headline quote
Speaker 5: breaking wrongly deported Mariland man kill Marrow Brega Garcia is
Speaker 5: on his way back to the US unquote. But you
Speaker 5: know what they say, never let the facts get in
Speaker 5: the way with a good story. Because they quickly had
Speaker 5: to update the yarn when the uh intimate part when
Speaker 5: they when they was pointed out how this band was
Speaker 5: actually being portrayed. The new headline was somewhat different reading
Speaker 5: quote new kil Breda Garcia has been charged with smuggling
Speaker 5: undocumented immigran in the US, allegedly making more than one
Speaker 5: hundred trips. He also allegedly abused undocumented females and solicited
Speaker 5: nude photographs and videos from a minor. Well, that's a
Speaker 5: little bit different. Here's a bit of Attorney General Pam
Speaker 5: Bondi laying out more of the accusations against this poor
Speaker 5: Maryland father.
Speaker 23: This defendant trafficked firearms and narcotics throughout our country on
Speaker 23: multiple occasions. They were using vehicles SUVs with added seats
Speaker 23: in the back.
Speaker 6: Floors that had been ripped out.
Speaker 23: Guns, narcotics, children, women, MS thirteen members.
Speaker 6: That is what the grand jury found.
Speaker 7: Yes, this is the.
Speaker 5: Non citizen criminal whose rights were so important that the
Speaker 5: congressmen representing the Maryland district where the Maryland father lived
Speaker 5: flew all the way down to El Salvador to have a.
Speaker 8: Drink with him and make sure he was okay.
Speaker 7: Gosh.
Speaker 5: So you have to wonder did that congressman or anybody
Speaker 5: else going to bat for him do the same with
Speaker 5: Kilmar's alleged victims.
Speaker 8: No, of course not.
Speaker 5: But you see that's what democrats and the left do.
Speaker 5: They take the side of migrants over Americans every day
Speaker 5: of the week, and twice on Sunday if they're accused
Speaker 5: of committing a crime. There's examples of this all over
Speaker 5: the country at the moment. This weekend, in Los Angeles,
Speaker 5: many riots broke out when activists decided that they were
Speaker 5: going to apparently storm a migrant detention center and trap
Speaker 5: some federal agents inside until they could eventually be rescued
Speaker 5: by other law enforcement. Elsewhere in the city, ICE agents
Speaker 5: were barricaded inside a store for their own safety after
Speaker 5: an angry crowd tried to stop them arresting to deport
Speaker 5: illegal migrants. I gotta say, it feels like we're about
Speaker 5: to see a replay of twenty twenty Summer of Love
Speaker 5: in the US, only with radicals targeting armed ICE agents
Speaker 5: instead of mainstream shopkeepers. Well yeah, I'm sure that's going
Speaker 5: to go really well for them.
Speaker 7: But it's not just LA.
Speaker 5: In Boston, hard left mayor Michelle Wu has compared ICE
Speaker 5: agents to two Nazis. Why because they wear masks?
Speaker 6: Does it clarify? Are you comparing ICE? You said to
Speaker 6: NSC one thirty one The neo Nazi group. Are you
Speaker 6: comparing them to a neo Nazi group?
Speaker 21: What I said is that Boston police and no police
Speaker 21: department that I know of at the local level routinely
Speaker 21: wears masks.
Speaker 5: Ah, yes, masks, hey ms woo your honor is that
Speaker 5: you anyway? Meanwhile, back in the old hometown of New York,
Speaker 5: radical leftists have been trying to interfere with ICE agents
Speaker 5: picking up detainees even in courthouses. Look at that on
Speaker 5: your screen there, while my oral candidates for the upcoming
Speaker 5: Democrat bar or Pride Mary are falling all over themselves
Speaker 5: to say just how much they will stand up against
Speaker 5: ICE agents coming in to deport illegal aliens, even keeping
Speaker 5: them out of prisons.
Speaker 11: I will always be a mayor that will stand up
Speaker 11: for our immigrants. Donald Trump's ICE has no place on
Speaker 11: Rikers Island. Donald Trump's ICE has no place pulling our
Speaker 11: people that are taking their court they're legal fort dates now,
Speaker 11: no right, not in my New York.
Speaker 21: Ah.
Speaker 5: Yes, no ICE agents at New York's infamous prison Rikers Island.
Speaker 5: With the Democrats, you know, it really is a case
Speaker 5: of the inmates running the asylum.
Speaker 7: Great stuff, Chan, how good news.
Speaker 4: Tom Homan Trump, they are going to be deploying the
Speaker 4: National Guard. They're going to be making sure that order
Speaker 4: is restored. If the Californian authorities want to let the
Speaker 4: nut bags run riot, they're not going to tolerate that anymore.
Speaker 4: Of the scenes we've seen James have just been absolutely shocking,
Speaker 4: just lawlessness ed rita.
Speaker 5: See here, these scenes are from a little while ago.
Speaker 5: These are protesters here and they're squaring up against the
Speaker 5: cops here, and you note that they're holding Mexican flags,
Speaker 5: which seems to be really really curious for people to say, Hey,
Speaker 5: we're migrants who want part of the American dream. This
Speaker 5: looks like separatism to me. And it looks like, you know,
Speaker 5: something that most Americans simply wouldn't want a part of this.
Speaker 4: Is you know what, if you want to be flying
Speaker 4: the flag of any other nation in a protest, perhaps
Speaker 4: I don't know, go there.
Speaker 5: And that's the really, that's the real thing. Look at
Speaker 5: the live shots here. We're seeing live shots here from
Speaker 5: Los Angeles right now. Again with the Mexican flag, I mean,
Speaker 5: it's just so strange. You're waving the flag of the
Speaker 5: country you're terrified of being deported to I don't know
Speaker 5: how that makes sense, but the National Guard point readA
Speaker 5: I'm really glad you brought that up. That's so crucial
Speaker 5: because you know, in twenty twenty, when the Black Lives
Speaker 5: Matter riots were running, there was the whole thing where
Speaker 5: all these states refused to call out the National Guard.
Speaker 5: When Tom Cotton wrote an op ed for the New
Speaker 5: York Times suggesting the National Guard being brought out, it
Speaker 5: basically blew up the entire New York Times editorial page.
Speaker 5: So you know, you have to, just as in the sixties,
Speaker 5: you know, when this sort of thing happened before, bring
Speaker 5: out the National Guard. Restore order because this is not
Speaker 5: you know, First Amendment speech.
Speaker 8: This is rioting.
Speaker 5: There's been other footage that have shown protesters throwing bricks
Speaker 5: and rocks into the windscreens of cars going by as
Speaker 5: part of these protests.
Speaker 8: You see that they're on your screen right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one.
Speaker 5: Hundred percent illegal, violent, criminal, dangerous behavior. These people need
Speaker 5: to be dealt with really, really harshly.
Speaker 4: And let's not be in any doubt the Trump administration
Speaker 4: has a mandate to do precisely what it's doing. This
Speaker 4: is what we're wrote on this and this policy enjoys
Speaker 4: mainstream support. It's not just the Trump base. The polling
Speaker 4: shows that the majority of Americans want every single illegal
Speaker 4: immigrant to be deported, not just the criminal elements. So
Speaker 4: this is not only a policy that Trump has a
Speaker 4: mandate on, it's one that is widely supported. So for
Speaker 4: these activists to be behaving, this is a sense of
Speaker 4: entitlement that comes from the left because they've had their
Speaker 4: way for so long, when conservatives getting that aren't actually
Speaker 4: exercised because.
Speaker 1: Also they don't have an argument. They resort to violence
Speaker 1: every time. The left do it all the time. They
Speaker 1: don't have the argument. I just want to move on
Speaker 1: to this thing, which is that not only are the
Speaker 1: deporting people, you've got to stop the wrong people coming in.
Speaker 1: And I was referring to this earlier in Australia, we
Speaker 1: seem to be quite happy to just let millions of
Speaker 1: people in from.
Speaker 7: All sorts of places.
Speaker 1: But Donald Trump has announced a travel ban on twelve
Speaker 1: separate countries, Somalia's, Sudan, other places like that. I think
Speaker 1: it is where he's basically saying, come on, we've got
Speaker 1: to be careful who's coming into the country.
Speaker 5: James Well, and you know, we had that whole horrible
Speaker 5: incident border last week and border Colorado when the guy
Speaker 5: who was I think he was from Egypt, which is
Speaker 5: not on that list, but he was somebody who overstayed
Speaker 5: his visa and his family overstayed their visa, and then
Speaker 5: I don't know if they made an asylum claim or whatever,
Speaker 5: but the Biden administration granted the rights to work and
Speaker 5: stay in the country. And then, of course, you know
Speaker 5: that happened. That should never have happened, because that guy
Speaker 5: should never have been in the country in the first place.
Speaker 5: That's what this all comes down to. The Biden administration
Speaker 5: let millions and millions of people into the country. It
Speaker 5: was very cynical. They saw how close the race was
Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen, they felt that should never happen. They
Speaker 5: knew that Trump was a threat, they knew the Republicans
Speaker 5: were a threat to them, and so I think the
Speaker 5: idea was to long run stack the demography to create
Speaker 5: more and more Democrat voters. That was the end goal
Speaker 5: of all of this incredibly cynical play with the safety
Speaker 5: and security of America. And I'll just say this. You
Speaker 5: know the left loves to talk about, Oh it's a
Speaker 5: crisis of democracy. The right is threatening democracy when you
Speaker 5: can't actually and when you refuse to control who comes
Speaker 5: into your country and remove those people who should not
Speaker 5: be in your country. That is the biggest crisis of
Speaker 5: democracy of all.
Speaker 4: And the interesting thing is the Latino vote for Trump
Speaker 4: is enormous. In fact, there was an opinion poll out
Speaker 4: just in recent days where his approval rating amongst the
Speaker 4: Latino community was sixty three percent. From memory, it was
Speaker 4: one of the highest of any of those demographics. Because
Speaker 4: there's this belief by the left that if you're an immigrant,
Speaker 4: then you're just for open borders, you want just unchecked
Speaker 4: immigration millions coming in.
Speaker 7: That is not the case behind you.
Speaker 4: Here legally, and you've had to go through a process.
Speaker 4: You resent those who are.
Speaker 5: Not only that if you're Latina or your black resort off.
Speaker 5: A lot of black people come across, Black men come
Speaker 5: across to the Republicans of Trump. It's about the suppression
Speaker 5: of working class wages, you know, in the low wage migrants,
Speaker 5: illegal mirgrants, suppressed wages. Study after study has shown that.
Speaker 5: So these demographics will say, no, I don't want people
Speaker 5: coming in driving down my wages, driving down my quality
Speaker 5: of life. And you know it gets back again to
Speaker 5: what we were talking about earlier in the show Rode
Speaker 5: and Rita about that split between the Maga Republicans and
Speaker 5: Donald Trump and the libertarian open border of people like
Speaker 5: Elon Musk who were very happy to bring in tech
Speaker 5: workers on the cheap and screw the middle class.
Speaker 8: Well, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's you know, we're not having the discussion
Speaker 1: in this nation about immigration we should have. The Dutton
Speaker 1: led coalition was so pathetic during the run up to
Speaker 1: the election campaign. They said twenty five percent cut for
Speaker 1: a year or two years or whatever it was. We
Speaker 1: need a serious conversation about immigration in this country. We're
Speaker 1: pouring millions of people in. Maybe fine, may not be fine,
Speaker 1: but we need to have that discussion and we're not
Speaker 1: having it. After break, canber Clown Show in a tick,
Speaker 1: Roll up, roll up, step right this way, it's the
Speaker 1: show in town is the Canberra Clown Show. Here's a
Speaker 1: map of Sydney electorates. Back when the Liberals fought against
Speaker 1: net zero and opposed carbon taxes the Abbot years, the
Speaker 1: Libs held around half.
Speaker 7: Of the seats in Greater Sydney.
Speaker 1: Then they betrayed the voters and signed up to net
Speaker 1: zero and the woke agenda because supposedly some dodgy international investors.
Speaker 7: Told them to.
Speaker 1: Today at the Liberals hold just four of the thirty
Speaker 1: four seats in the Greater Sydney Region Cook, Lindsay, Mitchell
Speaker 1: and Barrara, the same number as the Teals and the
Speaker 1: Great Irony. The so called moderate Liberals think that being
Speaker 1: even more woke and pushing net zero further is the
Speaker 1: way back to power.
Speaker 7: What a joke. Meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle, a.
Speaker 1: Member of the Greens has defected and joined Labor Senator
Speaker 1: Derinda Cox, who good question. According to one Labor senator,
Speaker 1: she's a basket weaver.
Speaker 24: This this government doesn't apologize for continuing to support the
Speaker 24: guests industry and ensure that the lights stay on so
Speaker 24: that even basket weavers like yourself, Senator Cox, can have.
Speaker 7: Light nice.
Speaker 1: When she's not basket weaving or swapping parties. Drinder Cox
Speaker 1: has committed to chanting slogans that many people claim as
Speaker 1: a call for genocide against the Jewish population of Israel.
Speaker 14: We are urging the government to step up their action
Speaker 14: to condemn Israel about its actions in Gaza, and I
Speaker 14: think that we will continue to change from the river
Speaker 14: to the sea to ensure that freedom and peace are delivered.
Speaker 6: And I don't have any objection to that.
Speaker 7: And she's now in the Labor Party.
Speaker 1: In other news from the Burly Griffin Big Top, the
Speaker 1: ABC's chief political clown Laura Tingle hung up her clown
Speaker 1: shoes this week.
Speaker 7: Again, who I hear you ask?
Speaker 1: So I asked AI for Laura Tingle's finest moment and
Speaker 1: this is what I got.
Speaker 22: Life.
Speaker 6: And we've been rehearsing for over forty thousan years.
Speaker 4: So everybody, how are you.
Speaker 8: Sorry?
Speaker 1: Must have asked AI the wrong question. That was Lara Bingle,
Speaker 1: not Laura Tingle. I always get those two mixed up.
Speaker 1: Here's Laura bing Tingle sorry, practicing her Ossie slang vernacular.
Speaker 4: Laura Tingle, I can only imagine that labor must be
Speaker 4: absolutely ropable.
Speaker 8: Lee.
Speaker 6: I think you'd have to say this spewen.
Speaker 25: Any pitch shop gala can tell you that the absolutely
Speaker 25: overwhelming issue for voters is the cost of living.
Speaker 7: By Elections are.
Speaker 25: Usually an opportunity for voters to give the government of
Speaker 25: the day a kick up the bum.
Speaker 1: That sounded so natural. Laura Tingle also described the coalition
Speaker 1: as a clown show last week. Say what you will,
Speaker 1: but I can't help thinking she was secretly auditioning for
Speaker 1: a job here on Outsiders. Laura also got in trouble
Speaker 1: recently for describing you, me, all Australians as racists.
Speaker 4: We are a racist compul its face that we always
Speaker 4: have been, and it's very depressing.
Speaker 17: But to give a.
Speaker 25: License like that I find more profoundly depressing and terrible.
Speaker 7: Prospect for the next election. Yes, we're all racists. Apparently
Speaker 7: speak for yourself, Laura.
Speaker 8: In fact, she did.
Speaker 1: Laura Tingle's greatest hit, the moment she declared that Indigenous
Speaker 1: Australians needed to make way for Anthony Albanezi if they
Speaker 1: wanted the voice to get up. Pretty much wrong on
Speaker 1: all accounts as it happened, and just my opinion, But
Speaker 1: how a listen. Surely isn't there a tinge or should
Speaker 1: that be a tingle of racism in these comments?
Speaker 7: You decide it.
Speaker 25: Really is time for the Prime Minister to come in
Speaker 25: and sort of take control of this debate, not the
Speaker 25: Indigenous Caucus, not all those Indigenous leaders.
Speaker 6: I think there is a real push that.
Speaker 25: You know that this will go down unless something really
Speaker 25: materially changes, And it's not about advertising. It's about that
Speaker 25: political leadership and that sense of political.
Speaker 7: Ah well, don't worry, Laura.
Speaker 1: The voice ain't going away despite the Australian people overwhelmingly
Speaker 1: saying no to it in the referendum. Here's Alboso and
Speaker 1: his Indigenous minister, Melander and McCarthy just last year.
Speaker 24: What we're proposed is Macaradam just being the idea of
Speaker 24: coming together.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm still confused and I apologize for that.
Speaker 1: There is a prospect of a Macarati Commission still being
Speaker 1: set up based on what you're saying this morning.
Speaker 26: I'm saying that the principles of the Orlary statement from
Speaker 26: the heart are very much supported by our government. In
Speaker 26: four what we have to do absolutely, you know, the
Speaker 26: Prime Minister made that commitment on election night.
Speaker 1: Even scarier, here's Pennywise, the clown, sorry Penny Wong, just
Speaker 1: over a month ago.
Speaker 27: I think we'll look back on it in ten years
Speaker 27: time and it'll be like marriage equality, don't you reckon?
Speaker 27: Like I always just say marriage equality, which took us
Speaker 27: such a bloody fight to get that done, and I thought,
Speaker 27: all this fuss, it'll become something. It'll be like, do
Speaker 27: we have an argument about that. They weren't even like
Speaker 27: kids today or any even adults today, nearly kind of
Speaker 27: clock that it used to be an issue.
Speaker 1: Yes, Forget about the referendum, Forget over sixty percent of
Speaker 1: Australians voting, Forget every single state except the Act saying
Speaker 1: a loud, clear and unequivocal no to the voice, to Pennywong.
Speaker 7: And labor, it ain't going away. It's back.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, this anti nuclear, pro renewables and pro net zero bozo.
Speaker 1: Former New South Wales Treasurer Matt Kean was back in
Speaker 1: the spotlight this week with this stupendous comment at an
Speaker 1: energy forum where he had this amazing insight quote. Those
Speaker 1: arguing for nuclear energy are the same people wanting to
Speaker 1: bring back Blockbuster video chains when the world is watching Netflix,
Speaker 1: h Matt. Not really a great analogy, given that Google,
Speaker 1: who owned Netflix, are busy buying up nuclear power plants
Speaker 1: as the only way to provide I have enough power
Speaker 1: for their future energy needs, as indeed are matter owners
Speaker 1: of Facebook. Not sure you really understand how this energy
Speaker 1: supply thing works, Matt, and speaking of that zero nutters
Speaker 1: and climate clowns, none come creepier or more dangerous than
Speaker 1: former New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda A. Dern, who has
Speaker 1: found a new friend this week, Oprah Winfrey.
Speaker 6: This woman has been a heroine, a hero for me
Speaker 6: for so many years.
Speaker 7: I've admired I from.
Speaker 12: Afar and this is the first time I've had the
Speaker 12: opportunity to sit down and have a conversation. Because she's
Speaker 12: written a book called A Different Kind of Power, and
Speaker 12: I love that you call it that because the different
Speaker 12: kind of power is kindness.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, It's all.
Speaker 28: Those things that you think are weaknesses or are taught
Speaker 28: are weaknesses.
Speaker 20: Empathy, sensitivity, self doubt and humility that powerful.
Speaker 12: What I admire is that you're a Prime Minister and
Speaker 12: you made a decision that I am going to have
Speaker 12: kindness as a prince from my administration.
Speaker 7: Kindness as of principle.
Speaker 1: Hardcore Marxistar Dern are pupil of the World Economic Forum,
Speaker 1: imposed one of the most draconian and disgraceful COVID regimes
Speaker 1: in the world, insisting in the time honored fashion of
Speaker 1: tyrants throughout the ages that she and her labor government
Speaker 1: were the sole source of truth I.
Speaker 6: Am present on social media or I see it myself.
Speaker 28: I cannot go around and individually dismiss every single rumor
Speaker 28: I see on social media, as tempted as I might
Speaker 28: be otherwise dismiss anything else. We will continue to be
Speaker 28: your single source of truth. We will provide information frequently.
Speaker 1: And who can forget Jollyagercenter's greatest jape, deliberately dividing her
Speaker 1: nation talking about kindness, dividing her nation into two separate
Speaker 1: classes of people.
Speaker 10: So you basically see it.
Speaker 18: This is going to be like it's almost like you
Speaker 18: probably don't seem like this, the two different classes of people.
Speaker 7: If you're vaccinated or if you're unvaccinated, you have all
Speaker 7: these rights. If you are vaccinated, that is what it is.
Speaker 6: So yep, yep, that is what it is.
Speaker 7: Yep. Kindness as a principle.
Speaker 1: Don't make me laugh still, just into the Kiwi clown
Speaker 1: at least at a razor sharp sense of humor.
Speaker 7: Here she is doing her.
Speaker 1: See how many times I can touch my face while
Speaker 1: I'm talking circusack, What.
Speaker 6: A laugh, switnessache.
Speaker 10: You'll be right, you look, you're probably.
Speaker 1: Out of shot over the end.
Speaker 7: Okay, you've r's ready to go.
Speaker 6: Hey, who wants to kick off?
Speaker 7: Ah?
Speaker 1: Yes, hatpering memories of the greatest Kiwi clown of them all?
Speaker 1: Do Kiwis regret the madness of the ardoon years?
Speaker 7: Who knows? And what would split ends? He'll say.
Speaker 1: Hypaboll extreme exaggeration, as described by Julia Gillard hyperblely. James
Speaker 1: tell us about well one of your favorite topics food.
Speaker 8: Food, glorious food. Yeah, I love this story here in
Speaker 8: the UK Telegraph.
Speaker 5: So you know the Michelin Guide, right, and they give
Speaker 5: the stars to big restaurants one, two, three stars, big coveted,
Speaker 5: big deal thing in the restaurant industry. Anyway, it turns
Speaker 5: out that you know that little website, The Conversation. Yeah, well,
Speaker 5: somebody there has gone and attacked the Michelin Guide for
Speaker 5: being racist, eurocentric because fine dining didn't originate in Europe,
Speaker 5: and also elitist because of course that's what fine dining is.
Speaker 8: And now, of course what they want to do now
Speaker 8: this is hilarious. They want to decolonize the Michelin Guide.
Speaker 4: There's no Michelin starred restaurants. What in Africa.
Speaker 8: Biased?
Speaker 5: It's the whole bias is towards you. Know, eurocentric colonizer food.
Speaker 5: It's elitist, it's all.
Speaker 4: Of this participation.
Speaker 8: Don't buy it. It's to be broad marched through and destroyed.
Speaker 4: Another ratings guide where you award these restaurants that you
Speaker 4: think are being neglected. I don't understand why they can't,
Speaker 4: just that they have to destroy what's already.
Speaker 1: Because they never build, because they can only destroy all.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. This decolonized thing is so dangerous.
Speaker 1: It is such an an evil idea because it basically
Speaker 1: just means rip out the Western Enlightenment stuff from everything that's.
Speaker 7: There and whatever rubbish eleft. And it's violent, and it's
Speaker 7: nothing to do with race. It's nothing to do with whites.
Speaker 1: It's about the institutions, the successful institutions of governance, of
Speaker 1: social norms and so on.
Speaker 4: Tell us, well, Kamala's back.
Speaker 7: I missed her.
Speaker 4: The worst vice president we have seen. Now, let's hear
Speaker 4: from her.
Speaker 16: No one should fear going to a pride celebration because
Speaker 16: of a white supremacist.
Speaker 17: No one should fear.
Speaker 10: Loving who they love.
Speaker 4: Just mad Rant from the Cackler in Chief. Of course,
Speaker 4: it's Pride months, the whole month of June. The White
Speaker 4: House this year is not marking the month. They have
Speaker 4: said that they're going to be inclusive of all Americans.
Speaker 4: They're not going to single out a particular sexual orientation.
Speaker 4: So yeah, there is no rainbow light displays at the
Speaker 4: White House.
Speaker 1: Well this is good, James, because you know I said earlier,
Speaker 1: but you know, people like this show or people watch
Speaker 1: the show actually do speak up against this stuff. Target.
Speaker 1: We've spoken about Target a lot in the past over
Speaker 1: the years. Every Pride month June they do all this
Speaker 1: pretty dubious stuff they've known in America had gone full
Speaker 1: American Trumpia.
Speaker 5: Around America, off seas around America too, or councilors are
Speaker 5: scaling back this stuff too. So yeah, so the winn
Speaker 5: is different, definitely shifted.
Speaker 1: It shifts because people speak up, and because people are
Speaker 1: happy to speak up, and because shows like this are
Speaker 1: happy to it.
Speaker 7: Is really going on.
Speaker 8: That's it for this week.
Speaker 1: Week, that's it for outside the scene. Next Sunday, make
Speaker 1: sure you're watching Sky during the week. Now it's a
Speaker 1: ross screen Woods.
Speaker 7: Bye.