WEBVTT - Outsiders | 8 June

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<v Speaker 1>It's outside, Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders. The show

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<v Speaker 1>that is to anti Semitism on steroids and woke identity

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<v Speaker 1>politics had their most patronizing and insufferable. What the British

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<v Speaker 1>so called comedian Dawn French is to empathy and human decency?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Complicated, no, but nuanced But you know, bottom line is no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know I did a bad thing to ask.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, Yeah, but no.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that is a Dawn French, famous for playing the

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<v Speaker 4>role of the Vicar of Dibley. But what on earth

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<v Speaker 4>is she talking about in that silly whining voice. Is

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<v Speaker 4>she dismissing the atrocities and hostage taking of October seven

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<v Speaker 4>as simply as a bad thing? It would appear so.

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<v Speaker 5>No Ah, Yes, such empathy, such compassion for Israel and

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<v Speaker 5>Jewish people from a woman who is a prominent British celebrity.

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<v Speaker 6>These people know, even people believe me.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, Dawn, no to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Dawn French has now apologized for the mockery there of

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<v Speaker 1>Israel and the Jews. Not before time that she's apologized.

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<v Speaker 1>But such casual anti Semitism is now endemic, as we

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<v Speaker 1>shall discuss as we grab.

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<v Speaker 7>The latest Outsiders News.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, James and Rita heilll Fold has been blocked from

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<v Speaker 1>coming here to Australia. We're going to talk about that disgrace,

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<v Speaker 1>but first let's get to Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>The show goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>It couldn't get any funnier, any crazy a Eta.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it has been seriously entertaining. I've got to say

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<v Speaker 4>I could not tear myself away from x Elon's platform ironically,

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<v Speaker 4>because he has made a massive miscalculation here. I think

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what he was on. It's been speculated

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<v Speaker 4>perhaps something Kennymine tweets mate have been but the Kennymine

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<v Speaker 4>has worn off and he has been going back and

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<v Speaker 4>doing something he never does, which is deleting certain tweets

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<v Speaker 4>during that exchange, possibly the most shocking and the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>misstep was to say that Trump should be grateful to him.

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<v Speaker 4>He may be the most well maybe the world's richest man,

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<v Speaker 4>he's not the world's most powerful man, and that's what

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<v Speaker 4>he's got to realize, and he has, I think, James.

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<v Speaker 7>But worse was the Epstein thing. For me, Well that

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<v Speaker 7>was almost in a minute.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean that's nobody, nobody, nobody, takes that seriously, because,

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<v Speaker 5>first of all, let's think about this. I mean, Donald

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<v Speaker 5>Trump is a guy who the left tried to put

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<v Speaker 5>in prison, take his businesses, take off the ballot, do

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<v Speaker 5>every single thing they could do to him, and yet

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<v Speaker 5>somehow they just knew somewhere that he was floating around

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<v Speaker 5>in the Epstein files and they never left that truck.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, let's put that all on one side, the

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<v Speaker 5>really important thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, that's because there are fools who do believe

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<v Speaker 4>this Epstein line. Now because Elon has said it, you

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<v Speaker 4>are one hundred percent right. Of course, if he was

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<v Speaker 4>anywhere in the files, we would all know about it

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<v Speaker 4>before the election. But also he was one of the

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<v Speaker 4>very first ostracize very Epstein back in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 4>eight before he was.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, why do you know why he banned.

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<v Speaker 4>Him from mar A Lago after he was in a

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<v Speaker 4>pro create with a teenager there. That was before his

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<v Speaker 4>prostitution conviction. So he was amongst the very first, if

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<v Speaker 4>not the first, in that elite world.

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<v Speaker 5>Webstein was hitting on the daughter of a varral Lago

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<v Speaker 5>member and Trump booted him out of the club and said,

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<v Speaker 5>you're not welcome here. So we put that entirely trust.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, the key thing everybody has to reverence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>for all the entertaining, it's really been a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>fun watching this whole thing blow up, the big bromance,

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<v Speaker 5>the big divorce, Mommy and daddy are fighting again. But

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<v Speaker 5>here's the thing, Like this all really exposed a really

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<v Speaker 5>big split within the Republican Party because you've got that

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<v Speaker 5>kind of tech libertarian side and you've got the Trump side,

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<v Speaker 5>which is actually much more politically realistic because you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the big issue was this big, beautiful bill that Donald

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<v Speaker 5>Trump is pushing through, which is basically secure as the

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<v Speaker 5>tax cuts that he put into place in his first

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<v Speaker 5>term of office. Gets a lot of spending custs, but

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<v Speaker 5>not as much as they need, but they get some.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's a real part the out of the possible bill.

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<v Speaker 5>Musk just decided to have this huge tantrum and there

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<v Speaker 5>is no other word for it. And you know, here's

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<v Speaker 5>the crazy thing though, as you say, Rita, Musk mistook

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<v Speaker 5>money for power. Trump understands power more than anybody else.

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<v Speaker 5>The reason why the left hates him is that, unlike

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<v Speaker 5>most people on the right, he really does understand the

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<v Speaker 5>nature of power.

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<v Speaker 8>And he mustle thought.

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<v Speaker 5>Musk thought that he'd had was on this huge winner

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<v Speaker 5>and all the Libertarians and everybody like that, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>come out and say, yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't want

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<v Speaker 5>the big beautiful bill. We want this sort of big

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<v Speaker 5>extreme bill which doesn't even exist. When you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know what happened. The Hill Newspaper, which like the

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<v Speaker 5>trade paper for Capitol Hill, they called over a dozen

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<v Speaker 5>Congressional offices, from senior leaders to backbenches, and they said

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<v Speaker 5>they'd gotten maybe between all of them, one or two

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<v Speaker 5>calls from Musk people saying hey, you know, go against

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<v Speaker 5>the big beautiful bill. So Musk wildly overplayed his head.

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<v Speaker 5>Why he did what he was on at the time,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. But there's all this other crazy stuff too.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, there are stories now coming out. Yeah, Steve

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<v Speaker 5>Benner the other day saying that Elon Musk got into

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<v Speaker 5>a punch up with Scott Besant, the Treasury secretary in

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<v Speaker 5>the West wing.

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<v Speaker 8>This is how nuts things have gotten of it.

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<v Speaker 7>But the other thing, the other thing is myssed. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that dismissed is there has been an

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<v Speaker 1>inherent tension all the way along, and let's not forget

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<v Speaker 1>that Elon Musk is the man behind Tesla, the man

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<v Speaker 1>behind the EV's, the EV mandates, the whole climate change

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<v Speaker 1>push and the future of you know, electric cars and

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<v Speaker 1>so on, and it's gone very well and made a

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<v Speaker 1>fortune out of it.

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<v Speaker 7>The left idolized him. There was always a tension with Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>They got together, they worked together for the election, but

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<v Speaker 1>it had to blow up at some point because at

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<v Speaker 1>some point Donald Trump was going to say we can't

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<v Speaker 1>keep having these subsidies and so on for Tesla and

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<v Speaker 1>for net zero, and that's that was a key sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a key part of it. According to Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>The EV mandates going was one of the key things.

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<v Speaker 1>He blew up about, saying that I have the subsidies,

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<v Speaker 1>not getting said that.

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<v Speaker 8>Because Moscoe was said back in twenty twenty one he said.

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<v Speaker 9>We don't need the Well did say that, but he

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<v Speaker 9>blew up about it.

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<v Speaker 4>That was I think it was more to do with

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<v Speaker 4>the overall direction and also to do with a NASA appointment,

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<v Speaker 4>which yes, which Elon Musk was very committed to, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was someone who had donated to the Democrats back

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty one, or a Democrat aligned packed and

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<v Speaker 4>the Trump folks were not comfortable with that appointment, so

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<v Speaker 4>he was vetoed and that seemed to also be a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a trigger for him. Yes, you're right, it

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<v Speaker 4>was predictable. You've got a hugely powerful out for males

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<v Speaker 4>in the same space. But this is where elonjusts and

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's realized very quickly the mistake he's made

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<v Speaker 4>because he has been back.

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<v Speaker 7>This will all blow over.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be nothing getting all excited, but it will

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<v Speaker 1>blow over and there'll be buddies again within no time.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I just see though that there's really I got

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<v Speaker 5>to keep coming back though to this real philosophical people

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<v Speaker 5>tram because I'm not just pragnantism rous ideology. It's nationalism

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<v Speaker 5>versus libertarianism. One of the big things that the Big

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<v Speaker 5>Beautiful Bill does is secure a lot more funding for

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<v Speaker 5>the border, the border and immigration. We're talking about that

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<v Speaker 5>later the show too. What's going on in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 5>right now. It's really really shocking. But you know, this

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<v Speaker 5>is this is something that the Trump people, the MAGA people, deeply,

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<v Speaker 5>deeply care about, and they're like saying, well, muscles, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>we can budget balance the budget, but if you don't

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<v Speaker 5>have border control, you don't have border enforcement, then you

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<v Speaker 5>don't have a nation, and there's no point. And that

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<v Speaker 5>is the real split between kind of the tech pro libertarians,

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<v Speaker 5>the Musk camp on the one hand, and the Trump

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<v Speaker 5>Baga camp on the other.

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<v Speaker 8>People agree camp is completely wining wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But the real argument is about what what's eline Musk

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<v Speaker 1>is really upset about is that the cuts aunt being made.

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<v Speaker 1>He's put in all this work under doge to find

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<v Speaker 1>all the successive money that is being wasted that the

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<v Speaker 1>government is hanging out. He's cut a lass. He's saying,

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<v Speaker 1>look this money. He's saying, there's so much more here

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<v Speaker 1>we could be cutting. And Trump is going now with politically,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't do that. I want to get my bill

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<v Speaker 1>through which does those cuts. And that's it, And that

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<v Speaker 1>is what the fault line.

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<v Speaker 7>Is over the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's whether we go the full lot, go for the

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<v Speaker 1>ideal of what we should be cutting, which Musk is correct,

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<v Speaker 1>or we do what politics is the art of the possible,

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<v Speaker 1>or we do what can be achieved, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is saying. And the tragedy here is that both

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<v Speaker 1>are one hundred percent correct, but both are correct that

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<v Speaker 1>both their positions are correct, but the reality is in politics,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to take what you can get that.

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<v Speaker 5>Numbers, because here's the thing. The bill that that Trump

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<v Speaker 5>is pushing through just needs fifty votes of the Senate,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and they can get that through. They've got those,

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<v Speaker 5>got that. But if you go with some new piece

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<v Speaker 5>of leanslation, they need sixty.

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<v Speaker 8>They don't have it.

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<v Speaker 7>So we'd see a world recession if they don't get

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<v Speaker 7>the bills.

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<v Speaker 4>Fantastic developments out of this, including the Democrats now wanting

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<v Speaker 4>the Epstein files released. So that's fantastical.

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<v Speaker 8>So careful what you wish exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's take a quick listening to Donald Trump talking about

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<v Speaker 7>this and what are you going to do about the Tesla?

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<v Speaker 10>You're gonna keep it or are you're gonna haven't?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I hope he does well with yesh.

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<v Speaker 11>Do you have any plans to speak with mister must

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<v Speaker 11>this was one of your closest advisors.

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<v Speaker 10>No, I don't have any plan. I'm not even thinking

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<v Speaker 10>about that.

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<v Speaker 1>There apparent And let's have a listened to JD. Van's

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<v Speaker 1>his vice president.

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<v Speaker 3>But the main purpose of the bill is not actually

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<v Speaker 3>spending or cutting spending, though it does cut a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of spending. The main purpose of the bill is to

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<v Speaker 3>prevent the biggest tax increase. But I understand like it's

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<v Speaker 3>a good bill, it's not a perfect bill. Like the

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<v Speaker 3>process in DC. If you're a business leader, you probably

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<v Speaker 3>get frustrated with that process because it's more you know, bureaucratic,

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<v Speaker 3>it's more slow moving. So I think there's just some

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<v Speaker 3>frustrations there. But I I really, man, I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a huge mistake for him to go after the president

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<v Speaker 3>like that. And I think that if he and the

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<v Speaker 3>President are in some blood feud, most importantly, it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be bad for the country. But I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be I don't think it's gonna be good

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<v Speaker 3>for Eelon either.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right there. And I think that's part of the

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<v Speaker 4>reason why Elon has backtrack, not only because he was

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<v Speaker 4>just completely out of order, but he is seen that no,

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<v Speaker 4>this MAGA movement isn't splitting down the movement and half

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<v Speaker 4>going with him. It's ninety percent Trump and yet that

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<v Speaker 4>little section that is the libertarian free market types. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they had that conflict a few months back

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<v Speaker 4>when the skilled visa issue king and that one again

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<v Speaker 4>was where the Trump base was We're not sure this

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<v Speaker 4>is good for America. We're not sure this is an

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<v Speaker 4>America first position, and Elon was very strong and Trump

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<v Speaker 4>did back him on that one, though you wondered where

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<v Speaker 4>he really stood on that position.

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<v Speaker 8>And that was also a Gromaslami blew up so spectacular exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>Now let's talk about Hillel Fold.

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<v Speaker 1>So Hillel Fold was invited to Australia by basically the

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli version of the Red.

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<v Speaker 7>Cross invited him to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a well known speaker, he was here a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. He mainly speaks about kind of startup nation

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<v Speaker 1>technology stuff. But Tony Burke has canceled his visa. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy is an American citizen as well as an Israeli citizen.

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<v Speaker 7>He is.

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<v Speaker 1>There is nothing that you can say that there is

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily there are no proper grounds whatsoever for canceling his visa.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a disgusting approach by this labor government, which

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<v Speaker 1>seems to just hate Israel, hate anything to do with Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>can't stand the fact that a person.

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<v Speaker 7>Is coming to Australia to make.

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<v Speaker 1>A speech who's a prominent Israeli They canceled in Israeli

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<v Speaker 1>politician last year. I would hope that if alberiz he

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<v Speaker 1>does get in front of Donald Trump and JD. Vans,

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<v Speaker 1>that they read the Riot Act to Anthony Alberanizi and

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<v Speaker 1>Penny Wong about what is happening in this country. To

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<v Speaker 1>block someone like Hillel Fold coming into this country to

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<v Speaker 1>make a speech is disgraceful. We are letting in three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand Gazans and they all being vested for their social

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<v Speaker 1>media comments.

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<v Speaker 7>I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're letting in a million people from around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet we're blocking a couple of this guy, a

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish guy. He's coming in to make a speech about

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish entrepreneurship.

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<v Speaker 4>Relatively, he's a threat to the health, safety, or good

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<v Speaker 4>order of Australians. I would like that to be explained further.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly how is this.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly this is if you look at the decision that

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<v Speaker 5>Tony Burke has headed down here.

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<v Speaker 8>And by the way, this is really sinister.

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<v Speaker 5>It is because this doesn't just today the issue is

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<v Speaker 5>Israel and Gaza and the Palestinians in Islam. Tomorrow it

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<v Speaker 5>could be something else, you know, among the things that

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<v Speaker 5>they said as well, oh you know, he basically didn't

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<v Speaker 5>agree with the official Gaza Harbaus narrative.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a long things.

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<v Speaker 5>Palestinian activist groups have been in Tony Brook's ear about this,

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<v Speaker 5>urging him to cancel this visa. So basically, Tony Burke

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<v Speaker 5>is giving Palestinian activists a veto over who comes into

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<v Speaker 5>and out of this country. This is absolutely unacceptable. What

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<v Speaker 5>we can't hear other people's views because they might wind

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<v Speaker 5>up causing some sort of hate in the community. That's

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<v Speaker 5>not what this is about. This is about a small

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<v Speaker 5>group of activists, Palestinian actists, trying to determine what the

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<v Speaker 5>visa policy is to this country, what the free speech

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<v Speaker 5>policy is in this country, and it's free speech.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>A few months ago chrispian Is, the premiere of New

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<v Speaker 5>South Wales, he said something really sinister. He said, we

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<v Speaker 5>don't have First Amendment American style free speech in this

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<v Speaker 5>country because of multi culturalism. The admission there is that

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<v Speaker 5>if you're going to have multiculturalism, no, no, we're not

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<v Speaker 5>getting along together. We now have to all watch what

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<v Speaker 5>we say to keep us from going out at hammer

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<v Speaker 5>and tongs. This is really interest because what you know,

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<v Speaker 5>tomorrow you could have a Chinese dissident who wants to

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<v Speaker 5>come in and speak, and you could have Chinese nationalists

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<v Speaker 5>here saying that's really not all that will encourage, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>hatred towards the Chinese Committee or any other group that's

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<v Speaker 5>involved in the dispute overseas. This is what the aveneazy

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<v Speaker 5>government is doing. They are saying, you know, well, one

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<v Speaker 5>side they say, oh, we don't want people to bring

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<v Speaker 5>their disputes here. That is exactly what they're doing. Other

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<v Speaker 5>people decide what we do.

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<v Speaker 4>Anders decide again of Islamophobia. So the fear is if

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<v Speaker 4>he comes here, there'll be trouble. Not trouble from members

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<v Speaker 4>of the Jewish community of people who are going along

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<v Speaker 4>to hear him speak, trouble from people opposed to him

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<v Speaker 4>being here. So the people who are cannot regulate themselves,

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<v Speaker 4>who are going to be violent, who are going to

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<v Speaker 4>be disruptive and perhaps break the law trying to stop

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<v Speaker 4>this man speaking, they're the one who are having this.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's let not forget.

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<v Speaker 1>He little fold is here to raise money for a hospital.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so that's what he's here to do, hospital exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, James is absolutely right, this is a free speech issue.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the labor government of Australia basically saying if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in our side. You know, if you think like us,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll let you into the country. If you don't think

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<v Speaker 1>like us, you're not coming into the country.

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<v Speaker 7>This is orwelling and it is up.

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<v Speaker 1>To seriously the only people who can put a halt

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<v Speaker 1>to this, apart from Australians getting very angry with their

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<v Speaker 1>local MPs on the phone or writing to them or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever to express they're dissatisfaction that this.

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<v Speaker 7>Has to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is at political activism. This is censorship

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<v Speaker 1>with the worst kind.

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<v Speaker 7>But jd.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance has repeatedly said, and Trump has repeatedly said, they

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<v Speaker 1>will not do business with a nation that restricts free speech.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Australia restricting free speech and the alban Ezy

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<v Speaker 1>government putting a threat our relationships with our most important

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<v Speaker 1>not only the trading partner, but military alliance.

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<v Speaker 7>So the Albanezy government is actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Threatening the safety of this nation through these sorts of actions.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the Trump administration we perfectly within their rights to

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<v Speaker 1>say no, you win, go to work with you if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to carry on like.

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<v Speaker 5>This and rowan you know, I hope that the President

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<v Speaker 5>does hear about this before it's the G seven meeting

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<v Speaker 5>this week, because this would be a great thing for

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<v Speaker 5>the President to take the Prime Minister to task over.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's so funny to me, guys, because earlier this

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<v Speaker 5>week we had last week we had the Albanezy government,

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<v Speaker 5>the Prime Minister himself saying, oh, other people won't tell

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<v Speaker 5>us how much we should spend on defense. We will

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<v Speaker 5>do this according to Australian values, in the Australian way,

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<v Speaker 5>that whole tedious thing that they.

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<v Speaker 8>Now call progressive patriotism.

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<v Speaker 5>Please spare me now we've got you know, defense policy.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh well, you know, we're gonna stand up to somebody

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<v Speaker 5>telling us what to do. And with the Australian government

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<v Speaker 5>was like, but when it comes to Hillo fold coming in,

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<v Speaker 5>somebody is going to say things that some of their

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<v Speaker 5>backers don't like, some Palestine activists don't like, some anti

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<v Speaker 5>Zionist activists don't like. Oh well, yes, okay, Soljza, Oh yes, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>sure we'll do that right away. We'll get that Tony

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<v Speaker 5>get the letter.

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<v Speaker 4>Berg is in the wrong portfolio. He should not be

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<v Speaker 4>in that portfolio, just given the makeup of his seat

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<v Speaker 4>and the activist groups that have his ear. He is

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<v Speaker 4>entirely in the wrong portfolio, and I think these sort

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<v Speaker 4>of problems are going to continue as long as he's

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<v Speaker 4>that minister.

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<v Speaker 7>So what I want to see is Donald Trump and JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Van So. I want to see Albow sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>White House and I want Donald Trump to say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>We're just going to turn down the lights.

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<v Speaker 7>Have a little slide show, Albat. Please explain hill l

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<v Speaker 7>filed to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Please explain your decisions on censorship of the Internet.

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<v Speaker 7>Please explain these.

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<v Speaker 9>Decisions, because seriously, Australia is out of control, absolutely out

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<v Speaker 9>of control, Tony Burke, as you said, read wrong portfolio,

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<v Speaker 9>absolutely disgraceful, that political activism and political interference in free

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<v Speaker 9>speech absolutely unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Prime Minister has been talking tough this week

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<v Speaker 4>about no one will dictate to us how we spend

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<v Speaker 4>on defense, because there has been pressure from the US

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<v Speaker 4>for Australia lifted its defense spending as a percentage, which

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<v Speaker 4>we need to do. A lot of experts in that

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<v Speaker 4>area saying exactly the same thing. Where was this tough

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<v Speaker 4>talk from the Prime minister when Chinese warships were live

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<v Speaker 4>fire exercise exactly a few hund.

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<v Speaker 5>We determined who circumnavigated circumstances on which they did.

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<v Speaker 1>So now last week we'll claim this is a scalp

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<v Speaker 1>but victory for outsiders and we're happy to take it,

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<v Speaker 1>and particularly you, the outsiders who responded to our core

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<v Speaker 1>last week to express your dissatisfaction to Nike with the

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<v Speaker 1>ambassadorship of the Grace Tame, the Australian of the Year

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<v Speaker 1>from some years ago, who had been putting out some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty vile hatred of Jews type stuff online.

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<v Speaker 7>Nike have now stood her down.

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<v Speaker 1>She was basically retweeting what other people had said, which

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<v Speaker 1>was not terribly sympathetic to Jews or to Israel. She's

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<v Speaker 1>now been dumped from that role.

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<v Speaker 4>In putting it lightly, that's rather putting it lightly.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It is interesting because Nike is typically very left, very woke.

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<v Speaker 4>It's advertising and its messaging has been that way for

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<v Speaker 4>many years. They've copped a lot of criticism for, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the way they operate their business, some of the wages

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<v Speaker 4>they perhaps pay these third world countries compared to their

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<v Speaker 4>right on activism in the West. So for them to

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<v Speaker 4>make this decision is no small thing because this is

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much in line with their company motto. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think she just went too fast. Some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 4>she was sharing was just so out there that even

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<v Speaker 4>Nike is like, whoa, We've got to back away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>But this makes the point James, that you know, everyday

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<v Speaker 1>Australians can make a difference. If you get on the blower,

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<v Speaker 1>if you write those letters, if you express your disapproval

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<v Speaker 1>to this sort of insane, woke left wing ideaology, the

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<v Speaker 1>marketing department will sit up and take notice. And we

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<v Speaker 1>made a big thing about this last week and the

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<v Speaker 1>marketing department at Nike certainly took up, took notice.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we've got also talking about political activism. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Marine Ferruki wandering around London. She's the Greens, heavy pro

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<v Speaker 1>palest Indian Greens, turning up a demonstrations outside Westminster. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the responsibilities for a MP should be,

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<v Speaker 1>but here she is in London.

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<v Speaker 7>Have a lot what is going on?

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, guys, here we are surrounding the Parliament with the

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<v Speaker 12>red line off redlining Parliament.

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<v Speaker 13>The whole length of Parliament half a kN a meter long.

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<v Speaker 14>Is here and you can see we've got some special

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<v Speaker 14>guests here at Chending with us.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes all the way around half we up, half

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<v Speaker 1>we up west Ridge the bridge.

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<v Speaker 8>What is what?

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<v Speaker 7>She then did an interview with some local media.

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<v Speaker 1>They're accusing Israel and ethnic cleansing and carrying on.

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<v Speaker 7>What is what? First of all, what did the poor

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<v Speaker 7>old poems do to deserve? Marine Ferruki on that. You're

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<v Speaker 7>welcome to.

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<v Speaker 4>Her, We'll take harry as, we'll do some sort of

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<v Speaker 4>a trade. One is she on annual leaveing? No, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure she's got other things she could be doing in

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<v Speaker 4>a And also what is an Australian senator doing engaging

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<v Speaker 4>in that sort of activism in the UK. They're not

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<v Speaker 4>enough pro Palestinian rallies for her to attend here that

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<v Speaker 4>she has to go over there.

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<v Speaker 5>Frankly, I'm happy for her to go. I hope she

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<v Speaker 5>offset her miles because of course it would have helped

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<v Speaker 5>kill the plant all the way to London. But you

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<v Speaker 5>know this is also by the way, it's like it

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<v Speaker 5>just shows that they have learned nothing, They've forgotten nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the Greens took an absolute shellacking at the

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<v Speaker 5>last election. They really just fell apart, and you know

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<v Speaker 5>this are the nonsense is exactly why. Because the Greens

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<v Speaker 5>started out as a sort of middle class environmental conservationist

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 5>party under Bob Brown, it is now so far radically

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<v Speaker 5>and I use that word in every sense of the word,

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<v Speaker 5>removed from what it was originally about, which was like

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<v Speaker 5>saving cute furry things and you know, trees, and yes,

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<v Speaker 5>some of their stuff was annoying, but you know it

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<v Speaker 5>was never anything sort of sinister to this sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 5>which is you know, adjacent to let's just say, an

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<v Speaker 5>awful lot of bad stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And we actually need a proper Greens party now because

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<v Speaker 4>we are seeing devastation of the countryside and we are seeing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, protect us from milions, so exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>These bloody, disgusting, ugly soular farms and wind wind farms,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's really no political party that is taking a

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<v Speaker 4>stand against that. And now as so many people in

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<v Speaker 4>the cities and certainly in regional areas who are concerned

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<v Speaker 4>about that at the natural vironment and there's no one

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<v Speaker 4>to represent them.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's interesting because the NETS are going to have

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<v Speaker 5>their conference next weekend, the New South Wales NETS, and

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to find out how they're going to wind

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<v Speaker 5>up going when it comes to net zero out of that.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's going to be interesting that out there will

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<v Speaker 5>wind up putting some pressure within the coalition. The newly

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<v Speaker 5>reformed Mommy.

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<v Speaker 8>And Daddy are back together coalition.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know what, the Nationals could emerge as the

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<v Speaker 4>key in real environmentalist party in this country because they

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<v Speaker 4>care about regional areas and they know people who live

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<v Speaker 4>out in the bush are devastated to see what's happening

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<v Speaker 4>to the Australian countryside, seeing what's happening to the bush,

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<v Speaker 4>to the wildlife, and they could be the leading voice.

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<v Speaker 5>And have a conservation to streaking them, you know, not

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<v Speaker 5>a raditude registry. But it's a beautiful country, beautiful landscapes,

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<v Speaker 5>unique animals and farmland, farmland, farmland from land. Every time

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<v Speaker 5>you put one of these huge transmission towers, you're taking

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<v Speaker 5>away farmland. Every time farmland gets sold to some group

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<v Speaker 5>from China or wherever to smack solar panels all over it,

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<v Speaker 5>that land gone wills.

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<v Speaker 8>Same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, before we go to a break, just want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk touch briefly on the unrealized capital gains tax. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the phantom tax on superannuation. This is a profit

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't actually have. This is the worst of labor,

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<v Speaker 1>This is thievery, theft. Meanwhile, the Australian economy is going

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<v Speaker 1>down the gurglar.

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<v Speaker 7>As we know.

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<v Speaker 1>This bloke Charmers is completely useless. He wants to steal

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<v Speaker 1>your superannuation. He wants to steal your money.

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<v Speaker 7>That's the labor approach, that's the Marxist approach.

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<v Speaker 1>Just take money and keep on taking money while the

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<v Speaker 1>economy suffers. Now, James and Rita mentioned the NATS conference

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<v Speaker 1>the NATS must not only oppose net zero if they

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<v Speaker 1>want to have any hope of returning the coalition to government,

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<v Speaker 1>but they must also oppose this unrealized capital gains in

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<v Speaker 1>any concept of unrealized capital gains taxes in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way for the Opposition to get back into

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<v Speaker 1>government because people are not going to put up with

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<v Speaker 1>this hardcore left wing rubbish. So the NATS need to

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<v Speaker 1>oppose that zero and oppose and promise to repeal. More importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>the capital unrealized capital gains tax retail.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a grossly unfair tax. It is absolutely will

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<v Speaker 4>be disastrous for investment, and the Greens back at one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred percent. In fact, the Greens wanted to be broader.

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<v Speaker 4>They wanted to start a two million and no doubt

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<v Speaker 4>that will want it to extend eventually to other asset classes.

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<v Speaker 4>Principle that's it apply to real estate.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, this is the thing and most people don't

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<v Speaker 5>have three million dollars in their super so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Labor is very candily trying to set this up, just

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<v Speaker 5>like they did when they went back on the stage

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<v Speaker 5>three tax commitment as it being about you know, a

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<v Speaker 5>small group of people that you know, say the top

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<v Speaker 5>end of town and where you know, that's an ansense

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<v Speaker 5>because that top end gets really big. If you look

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<v Speaker 5>at the way, without having indexed our tax brackets, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>our top tax bra I should kick in about twice

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<v Speaker 5>as high as it is now because it's not index

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<v Speaker 5>the same thing's going to happen here. It's going to

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<v Speaker 5>capture everybody eventually.

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<v Speaker 8>The real product of Labor sees.

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<v Speaker 5>Here is that people have gone out and they set

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<v Speaker 5>of self betterged super funds and they haven't put their

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<v Speaker 5>money through union super funds back which then have a

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<v Speaker 5>financial relationship with Labor.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 5>It's but try to bring back that control of super

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<v Speaker 5>under the great labor umbrella.

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<v Speaker 4>The industry is super funds are responsible for so much

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<v Speaker 4>that is wrong in this country. We really we need

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<v Speaker 4>to do a dip and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Then funnel that money, your your money into dream Energy.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a short we'll get back to

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<v Speaker 1>it short break.

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<v Speaker 7>After the break. We if we only checked.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus lot's my here with James and res around Rowan

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<v Speaker 1>when Outsiders.

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<v Speaker 4>You're watching Outsiders with your host Rowan, Ivy League Dean,

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<v Speaker 4>James Ancient eight Morrow and I'm Rita Panahy And soon

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<v Speaker 4>we'll be discussing the latest batch of celebrities to embarrass

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<v Speaker 4>themselves with their ill advised political activism. But first to academia.

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<v Speaker 4>No university has trashed its own reputation more than Harvard. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>the self inflicted damage has been profound. The racist DEI

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<v Speaker 4>inspired admission policies, where white and Asian students are discriminated against,

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<v Speaker 4>was bad enough, but in the past twenty months we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen an explosion of anti Semitism, with the university becoming

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<v Speaker 4>a hotbed of hate and hostility. The lunacy started early

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<v Speaker 4>on October seven, as the biggest massacre of Jews since

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<v Speaker 4>the Holocaust was underway. More than thirty Harvard University student

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<v Speaker 4>organizations signed a letter claiming the Israeli regime was entirely

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<v Speaker 4>responsible for all unfolding violence, and the derangement at Harvard

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<v Speaker 4>continues unabatea. Just have a look at who Harvard chose

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<v Speaker 4>to speak at a recent graduations and money.

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<v Speaker 13>There are no safe zones left in razza after six

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<v Speaker 13>hundred days and seventy seven years of genocide. I center

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 13>these students with urgent desperation because time is running out.

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<v Speaker 13>No meaningful aid has entered Razzia since March second, and

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<v Speaker 13>this is on our account. I center Palestine today not

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<v Speaker 13>just because of its scale of atrocity, but because of

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<v Speaker 13>our complicity in it. Together, we must refuse to be

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<v Speaker 13>ruled by the tyrants of our time, because our liberations

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 13>are intertwined.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, Harvard students, zarah a mom climbing. Israel has

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<v Speaker 4>been committing genocide for seventy seven years. They must not

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<v Speaker 4>be very good at it because the Palestinian population has

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<v Speaker 4>increased tenfold since nineteen forty eight. But the Harvard derangement

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<v Speaker 4>isn't just centered around Israel and Palestine. Look at who

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<v Speaker 4>Havard chose to give the commencement speech this year Chinese national,

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<v Speaker 4>a student whose family has ties to the CCP.

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<v Speaker 15>In the end, we do not raise by approving each

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<v Speaker 15>other wrong. We raise by refusing to let one another goal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and it appears that not only do her family

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<v Speaker 4>have CCP links, but the student herself, Luana Jing, worked

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<v Speaker 4>for a Chinese Communist Party entity with extensive ties to

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<v Speaker 4>Beijing's military and intelligence networks. But the leftist media in

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<v Speaker 4>the US love the speech and have been eager to

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<v Speaker 4>boost Jiang. What you're being interviewed here and take note

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<v Speaker 4>of what is happening behind her as she preaches about

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<v Speaker 4>humanity and connection to your fellow.

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<v Speaker 16>Man, and I have to put into one sentence it

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<v Speaker 16>will be humanity risers.

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<v Speaker 4>And false as one.

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<v Speaker 16>I think we are living in a very difficult time,

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<v Speaker 16>a lot of divisions in terms of no ideas, identities,

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<v Speaker 16>and I think this is a time where we can

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<v Speaker 16>use a little bit more moral imagination and imagine ourselves

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<v Speaker 16>being connected with one another, connection to.

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<v Speaker 6>Her fellow man.

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<v Speaker 4>She's not even connected to the dudes punching on a

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<v Speaker 4>few meters behind her. You know, the derangement at Harvard

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<v Speaker 4>won't end anytime soon, not even with the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 4>declaring war on the institution. Well, it's not having much

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<v Speaker 4>impact yet. Harvard will long be an institution where radical

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<v Speaker 4>leftist group think rules supreme. You know, perhaps it would

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<v Speaker 4>help if instead of anti Israeli, pro Beijing activists ruling

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<v Speaker 4>the student body and the faculties, we had someone like

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<v Speaker 4>this Gal.

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<v Speaker 6>Eveny Chapstick.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah herepply really egal right for health there, black lives there,

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<v Speaker 17>that's right.

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<v Speaker 7>That's great. Reader.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, joining us now is Myron Central Nathan from the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>former UK reform candidates.

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<v Speaker 7>Lots to talk about.

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<v Speaker 8>Myron.

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<v Speaker 1>Always great to see you, thanks for staying up late

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<v Speaker 1>and chatting to us. I wanted to first talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this banning the Burker in Britain. So this Reform UK

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<v Speaker 1>has called for a ban on the burker, but there

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be some confusion around whether this is policy

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<v Speaker 1>or one MP fill us in.

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<v Speaker 18>Myron, Well, I think one of our MPs stood up

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<v Speaker 18>and as our first question asked about whether we should

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<v Speaker 18>ban the Burke and be in alignment with other numerous

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<v Speaker 18>other European countries as well, and I think he wanted

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<v Speaker 18>to kind of put the cat amongst the pigeons as

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<v Speaker 18>start the discussion on the burker, which he actually has.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, Muslims will say that the burker is a

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<v Speaker 18>sign of you know, piety and modesty, and people make

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<v Speaker 18>the argument that the States shouldn't actually intervene in telling.

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<v Speaker 10>Women what to wear or what not to wear.

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<v Speaker 18>But the argument against that the Nigel Farage has made

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<v Speaker 18>is that it's potentially a security threat. But I would

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<v Speaker 18>even add to that that the main issue is the

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<v Speaker 18>cultural situation, the integration. I mean part of Western society

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<v Speaker 18>communication is built on face to face communication and the

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<v Speaker 18>burka is quite literally an anti integration attire. And I

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<v Speaker 18>think when you live in a country that is actually

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<v Speaker 18>becoming increasingly fractured after mass migration, we need to do

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<v Speaker 18>whatever we can to remove any barriers for integration, and

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<v Speaker 18>we need the state to intervene and actually safeguard British

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<v Speaker 18>culture because we're to ushering in the age of commonality,

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<v Speaker 18>not actually and actually leave behind the age of diversity.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think that's what this is really about.

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<v Speaker 18>And if we don't have the strength to actually ban

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<v Speaker 18>the burker, I worry about whether we have the strength

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<v Speaker 18>to actually stand up for Western British ideals in general,

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<v Speaker 18>and I think that that's what this is really about.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there's also beyond the security and integration the women's

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<v Speaker 4>rights issue.

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<v Speaker 6>The burker is.

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<v Speaker 4>A tool of oppression. It is so dehumanizing for women,

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<v Speaker 4>it completely removes them from society. Why is that argument

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<v Speaker 4>not being made more forcefully that if you support women's rights,

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<v Speaker 4>you cannot be pro burker. This is not just a choice.

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking about a garment that hides all expression.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, I think that's the argument from what I would

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<v Speaker 18>use and you would use and so on. But there

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<v Speaker 18>is the you know, the other side of the fence,

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<v Speaker 18>and the Moslim argam would be that it's a sign

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<v Speaker 18>of piety, it's a sign of I want to be

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<v Speaker 18>loyal to my husband. I don't want to tempt are

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<v Speaker 18>the men. I don't want the gaze of other men

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<v Speaker 18>upon me. I want to become more dedicated to God

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<v Speaker 18>and more and deepen my spiritual connection. And so there's

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<v Speaker 18>all of those arguments that usually come back from the

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<v Speaker 18>other side. But behind that, who is really going to

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<v Speaker 18>speak out and say, I'm a Muslim woman, I'm being

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<v Speaker 18>oppressed and I'm wearing a burker. I mean, the very

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<v Speaker 18>fact that you're wearing a burker is a sign that

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<v Speaker 18>you're being oppressed and you're not going to speak out obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, last time I was in Selfridges, there must have

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<v Speaker 1>been an awful lot of people who are dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>God and party.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I'll sound.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the burker does feel a bit like the

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<v Speaker 5>vegan cat. Someone else is making the decisions there. But

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I want to ask you, Myron though about

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<v Speaker 5>this other story which has come out of the UK

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<v Speaker 5>Telegraph this week utterly shocking. According to this this group

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<v Speaker 5>called Prevent, which is the anti radicalization government program, they're

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<v Speaker 5>now saying that the real radical threat is people who

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<v Speaker 5>think that just maybe there's a problem with integration and

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<v Speaker 5>that Western culture is under threat from my and who

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<v Speaker 5>come in great numbers and don't integrate. And they're saying

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<v Speaker 5>that this is now cultural nationalism, and they suggest that

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<v Speaker 5>this is a radical ideology that needs to be stepped

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<v Speaker 5>out and have people re educated on. This is really concerning,

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<v Speaker 5>and this is where I think people like Darmatic Cummings

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<v Speaker 5>have been going and warning of just how terrified the

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<v Speaker 5>British state is of people in Britain being concerned that

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<v Speaker 5>their country is being taken away from them.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, you're absolutely right. I'm concerned. This is massive Prevent.

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<v Speaker 18>It is a government organization designed to stop terrorism, and

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<v Speaker 18>terrorism is eventually blowing things up or driving cars into people.

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<v Speaker 18>But instead they've managed to turn their attention to far

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<v Speaker 18>right terrorism in particular, which only makes up a tiny

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 18>fragment of terrorism.

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<v Speaker 10>Most of it is Islamist.

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<v Speaker 18>And it seems to be homing in on people who

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<v Speaker 18>are concerned about mass immigration, who are concerned about, as

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<v Speaker 18>you said, cultural nationalism, which seems to be a buzzword

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<v Speaker 18>for really just being patron and so what they're looking

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<v Speaker 18>to do is refer such people to a deradicalization program.

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<v Speaker 18>And it's interesting. One of the points that was made

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<v Speaker 18>in that Telegraph article was that Kirs Starmer himself recently

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<v Speaker 18>made a speech about the country becoming an island of

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<v Speaker 18>strangers as a result of mass immigration, so perhaps he

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<v Speaker 18>might be referred to Prevent. But the issue of this

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 18>is is that Prevent they're silencing the majority, They're silencing

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<v Speaker 18>common opinion.

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<v Speaker 10>And I'm really concerned about this.

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<v Speaker 18>I don't want to sound like hyperbolic or overly dystopian,

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<v Speaker 18>but I'm concerned about violence erupting We've had Professor David Betts,

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<v Speaker 18>an academic of war studies, actually map out that when

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<v Speaker 18>you have a combination of mass immigration, economic decline and

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 18>government overreach, then you are you're setting a situation which

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<v Speaker 18>is right for this kind of violence and these kind

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<v Speaker 18>of tensions to develop. Even just recently Lisa Nandy, the

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<v Speaker 18>Culture Secretary, she openly said that parts of England look

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 18>like they're about to go up in flames. So prevent

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<v Speaker 18>the government established and really need to get a grip

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 18>of the situation and understand the nees, the feelings and

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.439
<v Speaker 18>the tensions that are building and instead of actually trying

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.760
<v Speaker 18>to stamp it out, give them a voice and actually

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<v Speaker 18>deal with the concerns at the root level.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and Myron part of that is obviously the illegal

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>immigrants pouring in over the border. The problem that has

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<v Speaker 1>been since Brexit is that after Brexit, Britain didn't pull

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<v Speaker 1>out of the European Court of Human Rights, which means

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>that anybody coming across the border can just go straight

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>to the to the Court.

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<v Speaker 7>Of Human Rights there in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Badenoch has now joined basically imitating the policy of

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<v Speaker 1>reform and saying we're going to pull out of the ECHR.

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<v Speaker 7>What do you make of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Conservatives in our copying Reform very blatantly.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, it's interesting, she hasn't quite mimicked Reform yet.

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<v Speaker 10>So Kirs Starmer is absolutely.

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<v Speaker 18>Wedded to the ECCHR because it's against his religion to

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<v Speaker 18>leave it. Nigel Farage has openly declared that he will

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<v Speaker 18>leave the ECCHR, and Kenny Baynook called a massive press

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 18>conference to announce that she may be leaving these And

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 18>the reason why she's so tentative is because her party

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 18>is deeply split on this issue. I always say about

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.280
<v Speaker 18>the Conservative Party it's two souls trapped in one body.

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:19.760
<v Speaker 18>So she's fearful of her own members of her own party,

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 18>So she's creeping up to the issue bit by bit

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<v Speaker 18>by bit, trying to, you know, desensitize them to the

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<v Speaker 18>shock of what's going to happen when they actually potentially

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<v Speaker 18>do leave the ESHR. But yes, she's playing catch up

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 18>with Reform UK exactly that.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Bedweaters in the Tories continue to hold them back,

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 4>just like the Bedweathers in our Liberal party. And Reform

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<v Speaker 4>is now leading several polls ahead of Labor, ahead of

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 4>the Tories. Is this the end of the two party

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<v Speaker 4>system effectively in the UK?

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<v Speaker 10>It would seem so.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean Nigel Farage, as I said to you last time,

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<v Speaker 18>I think he's kind of declared, medically declared the Conservative

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<v Speaker 18>Party dead and over and then yes, they're a third party.

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<v Speaker 18>We no longer have a two party system. It's potentially

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.800
<v Speaker 18>a three party but or at least just two parties

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 18>with Reform UK and Labor Kebby Baynok is on the ropes.

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<v Speaker 18>It's quite likely that she might get ousted by the

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<v Speaker 18>end of the year. And the Conservative Party are changing

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 18>chairman's like socks, and they're changing leaders like underwear. So

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 18>that's the state of the Conservative Party right now.

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<v Speaker 10>Will it survive? I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds very similar to what's something over here, dear idea

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<v Speaker 1>And just quickly before you go, Myron. We played the

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Dawn French clip earlier where she appeared to be mocking

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of October seventh, mocking Jewish people for.

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<v Speaker 7>In some weird accent that she was putting on.

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<v Speaker 1>She's now apologized, which is great, but how common is

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of casual anti semitism in Britain?

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<v Speaker 7>It seems to be getting worse. In my opinion, I

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 7>think it is.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, amongst a celebrity, let's say, liberal elite class,

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 18>there is an echo chamber and they see to sort

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 18>of parrot the same things back at each other, pro Palestine,

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 18>free Palestine, and so they believe the propaganda being released

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 18>by her mass in particular. Look, I've got time for

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 18>people who've got a genuine argument, you know, for the

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 18>Palastinian side of the situation. But dorn French didn't really

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:19.240
<v Speaker 18>have a genuine argument. She trivialized the whole thing. October

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 18>to seventh was a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 10>Is the way does?

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 18>She described it in a kind of mocking, self righteous tone. Look,

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 18>she's apologized, we make mistakes. It was a moment of madness,

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 18>I hope, and we hopefully can just draw a line

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 18>under it. He's a national treasure. I hope she can

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 18>move on for it and arrest the country can as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic Myron, Great to chat to you as always, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for staying up and speaking just here on

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<v Speaker 1>Outsiders at Smyron Central. Nathan always great to have him

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>on the show. After the break, net zany lefty Lunacy

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Whackdemia in a tick. You're watching Outsiders with Rita and

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<v Speaker 1>James and myself Rowan, and thank you so much for

0:41:56.640 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>watching us every Sunday morning. We certainly do appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's net zany time. This is the insane world

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 1>of net zero, cutting emissions renewables policies which are crippling

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 1>this nation. We've said it here on this show so

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>many times. We had deindustrializing, we had destroying our economy.

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Chris Bowen and the Labor Party are destroying our ability

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>to manufacture, our ability to be an industrial power while

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>they chase their fantasy of a renewable superpower which will

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 1>never happen. James, that Tamago, We've got another bailout needed

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>for another major industry.

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<v Speaker 5>This is just absolutely shocking, but entirely predictable of Tomago.

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<v Speaker 5>The aluminum smelter aluminium sorry smelter in New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a huge piece of industrial kit. It uses

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 5>ten percent of New South Wales electricity supply and it

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 5>uses it constantly because guess what, an aluminum smelter needs

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.240
<v Speaker 5>to keep running constantly because if it turns off, it freezes,

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 5>and it's billions of dollars in davage they have. They

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 5>are now apparently out there looking for substitues from care

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 5>from New South Wales. I e US why because net

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 5>zero energy policies have driven power prices up so much

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 5>that they cannot afford to keep this going. This is

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.919
<v Speaker 5>not just an economic risk, it's also a jobs risk.

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 5>They employ one thousand people, five thousand directly, but also

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 5>it's a national security.

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<v Speaker 4>C I will just import the aluminium from China.

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<v Speaker 17>China.

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<v Speaker 4>You know who's going to be the biggest superpower, renewable superpower.

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<v Speaker 4>It's China, because they're the ones selling all this to us,

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 4>fools that take our fossil fuels, enrich themselves and then

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 4>sell us this crap that we used to impoverish out.

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<v Speaker 5>That's fantastically There's another little bit though to this story

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 5>that people don't fully get here, and it really hasn't

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 5>been properly explored. But let me tell you about this here.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the interesting things here is that New South

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 5>Wales is like other states, going forward to these massive,

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:59.280
<v Speaker 5>massive transmission projects which are already costing well over the money. Now,

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 5>if Tom goes bust, if they can't do this anymore,

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.839
<v Speaker 5>suddenly that's ten percent less electricity in the grid, which

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 5>means those treads, the cost of those transmission power programs

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 5>become even higher for everybody else remaining. The entire economics

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 5>of this green netzer transition are built on sand. You

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 5>talk to people in the industry, they all know it.

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.359
<v Speaker 5>The only people who don't seem to know it are

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 5>the people in Chris Bowen's office.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tell you this is, in my opinion, it

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>is criminal. What is going on is absolutely criminal. Future generations,

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>we'll look back with so much anger at what labor

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and the entire and the liberals they've been part of

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 1>this as well, this whole net zero madness. They still

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>are until it stops. But let me just let's just

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 1>go back to basics. It's always worth reminding ourselves of

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>why we are doing all this, Why we can't do

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 1>aluminium any longer. Why because apparently the world is getting

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>warmer and warmer and the planet is heating up because

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of global warming, because of carbon emissions.

0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 7>YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh in it other news today, Perisher got off to

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic start, a freezing cold start to the snow season.

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 7>One of the great starts of the year for the

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 7>official opening.

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, the snows, the snow reads are fantastic. We'll

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:16.720
<v Speaker 1>look if you get down to the snow there, folks,

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:17.760
<v Speaker 1>it's all there.

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<v Speaker 7>Remind me again why we're white. Can't remember it anyway.

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I thought we weren't going to have these sort of

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 4>tree seasons anymore. That's actually children weren't going to be

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 4>able to experience snow because of global warming. But guess what,

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 4>there's also bad news because not only is there more snow,

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:41.720
<v Speaker 4>but fire now is hotter. Climate is making fire hotter.

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<v Speaker 7>Climate change. Have a listen.

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<v Speaker 19>Water bombers won't won't put out most of the whites

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 19>of fires out of control, but you could stop it

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.280
<v Speaker 19>early if you could, because the nature of twenty first

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:58.280
<v Speaker 19>century fire is very different from twentieth century fire. Because

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 19>of a climate crisis, it's change fire behavior. It's made

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 19>fires much harder put out and much more dangerous for communities.

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<v Speaker 7>Ah, this is stupid, is unbelievable.

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 1>The only fires that are harder to put out are

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>because of climate change policies, evy lithium batteries. Those are

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the files that are so hard to put out, not

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 1>nature's fires because of climate change.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, and also I would be really willing

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 5>to bet. I don't know Canada's policies on these sorts

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.240
<v Speaker 5>of things, but I have a real feeling that in Canada,

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 5>and you know, I love how these people probably all

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 5>have these yard sides out that say, you know, in

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 5>this house, we believe science is real, which of course

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 5>means that.

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 8>Fire is hotter than it used to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, sure, But I bet also in Canada that they

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 5>have the exact same problem that we have here, which

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 5>is that they don't do any backburning, any removal of

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 5>dead brush, any of the sort of things that create

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 5>these huge, massive fuel accumulations that we used to do

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 5>in the twentieth century. Maybe, guys, I don't know, maybe

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 5>that's what's making twenty first century harder and harder to Porto.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the global warming.

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 7>Flames are harder than they used to be.

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 4>Back in my day, fire was cold. I mean, I

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 4>think the proof is in the pudding right there.

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 1>But that's but I'm serious about the EV stuff. There

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>was this inferno on this EV ship. So these lithium batteries,

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>which we're bringing more and more of their massive virus

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:24.879
<v Speaker 1>once they start burning you can't put them out. There's

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 1>this cargo ship James carrying around three thousand of these evs.

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 1>It's been abandoned off Alaska, and it's just on Sire Alaska.

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 4>So what we've got, what about the pollution issue?

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 7>Just going to burn away for weeks?

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember?

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 5>I remember when I was a kid, there was a

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 5>thing called the Excellent Valdez exactly, and it was this

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 5>oil still in Alaska, and you know, it became this huge,

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 5>big environmental cause here with everybody, you're scrubbing the poor

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 5>penguins and everything from all the oil that had gotten

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 5>all over them. But like, if you've got three thousand

0:47:57.600 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 5>or eight hundred how many evs this was on this

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:02.399
<v Speaker 5>ship here going up in flames and all of their

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 5>chemicals getting dumped into the ocean, that would seem like

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:08.839
<v Speaker 5>it was a huge environmental catastrophe. And yet oh, because

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 5>oh no, no, we need the evs to save the planet,

0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 5>except for the testas because they're fascist. Oh no, wait,

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:15.479
<v Speaker 5>they're not fascist anymore. I don't know, it's so hard

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:19.399
<v Speaker 5>to keep up, you know, we don't hear a word, right.

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>So they're all going to be rushing out and buying

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:22.719
<v Speaker 1>that tell u us not getting the rid of the

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>scratches putting.

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 8>Can you do the pain so quick quick?

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.280
<v Speaker 7>Let's let's get Can you imagine the number.

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.439
<v Speaker 8>Of people who are out there searching, you know this week?

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 5>How do I get the I bought this tesla before

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<v Speaker 5>elive was a fascist sticker off my car without ruining

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<v Speaker 5>the paint.

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<v Speaker 1>Now tell us about the Victorian energy minister again, the

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<v Speaker 1>lights will go out.

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<v Speaker 7>They're warning us in Victoria, what you've got to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be energy policy is possibly the craziest in the country.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, no, it is the craziest. There's a state

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<v Speaker 4>blessed with natural resources, hundreds of years of gas reserves

0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 4>sitting there's no exploration. And you know what again we

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<v Speaker 4>talk about the liberals. The liberals are complicit in this madness.

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<v Speaker 4>The Liberals, along with Labor, voter to change Victorious Constitution

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<v Speaker 4>to limit gas explorations. So that's not going to get

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<v Speaker 4>changed back. Labour's never going to vote to change that,

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<v Speaker 4>not probably in our lifetime. So we've got this mad situation.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to be importing gas, we've got shortages, we've

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<v Speaker 4>got sky high prices when we are sitting on hundreds

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:31.800
<v Speaker 4>of years of reserve and the world crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>The wild thing about your gas in Victoria, reader, is

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<v Speaker 5>that most of it is so close to the surface.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't really need to do drilling or a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of hydraulic graphs, everything like that. The gas is so

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<v Speaker 5>close to the surface that it's barely invasive at all,

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<v Speaker 5>and yet you can't get it. Remember when gas what's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be the transition fuel?

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>Gas was green for a period before it became more

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<v Speaker 4>evil than electricity.

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<v Speaker 5>And cook on these crappy induction cook cover if you

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<v Speaker 5>look to pan up to think beeps that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>forget it.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't put a wock on one of those, can you.

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<v Speaker 8>It's no fun cooking. It's sorry, it's no fun.

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<v Speaker 4>But Victoria is mad. It was the CEO of Santos

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 4>who said, it's like in the North Korea is a

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<v Speaker 4>new South Wales, South Australia, w A. You can do

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<v Speaker 4>business with those states, but when it comes to Victoria,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just madness. It's possibly why we have the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>debt of any state in the country. Why the place

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<v Speaker 4>is going broke and our taxes are sky high. And

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<v Speaker 4>I said before the election, if Albernezer gets the second term,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to see the Victoria vocation of Australia, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're going to see that there.

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<v Speaker 1>Is super while apparently the Liberals some New South Wales

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party meeting yesterday, the bedwetters were they're wetting the

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<v Speaker 1>bed I guess and insisting that the Liberal Party go

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:03.959
<v Speaker 1>embrace that zero and get more like the Teals and.

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<v Speaker 4>Get more and then elections.

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<v Speaker 10>Unbelievable that already happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to keep you know, seriously, Australia, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Australians who are the losers. We need a strong If

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the Liberals aren't prepared to step up and be a

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 1>proper coalition, then we need the Nationals to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>As you were saying earlier, areta maybe in conjunction with

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<v Speaker 1>one Nation, maybe a National Conservative Party something. We desperately

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>need an opposition that opposes That's what we need. Not

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:30.960
<v Speaker 1>too much to ask, you would think in a Western

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<v Speaker 1>sterdem democracy don't go away after the break, got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit sad.

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<v Speaker 7>About feminism in a tool.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Rita Suffragette, Panahee, James the

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<v Speaker 1>Man Morrow and myself Rowan seek Freedom.

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<v Speaker 7>Dean may I please ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever so respectfully and admitting my own membership of the

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>much maligned patriarchy, What on earth happened to women? I

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>don't mean women spelt with an eye, or even women

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>of the what women really want variety, or even women

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the oppressed victims of male domination. No, what I'm referring

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<v Speaker 1>to is women as a political force for good in

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:18.359
<v Speaker 1>the world. Idealistic and passionate young women who believe in reason, peacemaking,

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and common sense as the best way to solve the

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>world's problems. Those are the women I grew up with

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<v Speaker 1>and was taught to admire and did admire the women

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:29.120
<v Speaker 1>of the seventies and eighties, young women who were determined

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<v Speaker 1>to make the world a better place, and did so

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<v Speaker 1>with talent, with humor, and with verve.

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<v Speaker 7>Their greatest dream was to head off to Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>To work on a kibbutz for three months, or to

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<v Speaker 1>help out on a charity appeal, or to get a

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:43.359
<v Speaker 1>job working for some do good or organization or other. Yes,

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 1>they called themselves feminists, and as men, we may have

0:52:47.880 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 1>cracked jokes about them or teased them, but of course,

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:53.759
<v Speaker 1>deep down we secretly admired them. And fancied them obviously,

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:57.760
<v Speaker 1>So what went so very very wrong? This clip popped

0:52:57.800 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>up on social media over the weekend of a youngestro

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Alian woman lamenting going to university and failing to live

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the Australian dream, being disappointed feminism has clearly not delivered

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<v Speaker 1>what she had been told it would. And it's a

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:11.280
<v Speaker 1>common story.

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<v Speaker 20>You've gone to UNI, you finished school, gone to UNI,

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 20>you got a degree which is meant to get you

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<v Speaker 20>a good job, and that job is meant to pay

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<v Speaker 20>for a house and maybe a holiday once a year,

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 20>and maybe it had some kids, and that's not happening now,

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 20>and you're kind of just like, what's the actual point

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<v Speaker 20>of anything, Like I'm twenty eight and I kind of

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 20>thought by now, like I might have like a three

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 20>bedroom house, maybe like thinking about kids, maybe successful in

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 20>my career.

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<v Speaker 7>As I said, a very common story. You'll hear it everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about this because of two things. The

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Grace Tame Nike incident we spoke about earlier, and two

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 1>interesting articles in the Australian newspaper over the weekend. I'll

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 1>get onto those in a tick. Let's start with the

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<v Speaker 1>Grace Tame incident. Grace Tame is a former Australian of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year. Unwarranted in my opinion, but there you go,

0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a woman who suffered a great deal as a schoolgirl

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<v Speaker 1>but went on to become an icon of the Australian

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:05.880
<v Speaker 1>feminism movement in a weird kind of pairing with the

0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 1>even more unlikely Britney Higgins. The two of them were

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<v Speaker 1>presented to young Australian girls for the past decade as

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect role models of Australian feminism. They made their

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<v Speaker 1>speeches and were lionized by the left.

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<v Speaker 7>And how did they use that role model status? Not

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<v Speaker 7>very well?

0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:25.319
<v Speaker 1>Went bore you with the Brittney Higgins saga. We all

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:28.759
<v Speaker 1>made up our minds long ago about that particular individual

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<v Speaker 1>and event. But I will mention Grace Tame rudeness became

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<v Speaker 1>her stock in trade. Being rude to Prime Minister Morrison

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:39.560
<v Speaker 1>was lauded, being rude, ambushing Prime Minister Albanesi with an

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<v Speaker 1>F Murdock T shirt.

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<v Speaker 7>T shirt was.

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<v Speaker 1>Regarded as a great protest, all so brave, such originality.

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<v Speaker 1>But then last week her Auntie Israel rantings were revealed.

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<v Speaker 1>We detailed them here on the show and I won't

0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 1>repeat them because they deserved to be treated with nothing

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 1>but scorn and derision. And now, as I implored on

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<v Speaker 1>the show last week, Nike has sacked her from her

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand dollar ambassador's role for that brand. Good

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.239
<v Speaker 1>well done, Nike, and thank you to all the outsiders

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 1>who made that happen or helped make it happen, proving

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<v Speaker 1>as I've said many times, that together we can force

0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:15.759
<v Speaker 1>these corporations to change their leftist behavior. Personally, I would

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<v Speaker 1>argue that if Grace Tame's offense was such that Nike

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<v Speaker 1>felt compelled to sacker, we the Australian people, should also

0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 1>demand she'd be stripped of her Australian of the Year

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:27.520
<v Speaker 1>status and be removed from any taxpayer funded roles.

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<v Speaker 7>But that's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>But sadly, rather than being the exception to the rule,

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<v Speaker 1>Grace Tame is absolutely typical of today's breed of young feminists,

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<v Speaker 1>most of whom, in my opinion, fit a rather unsavory mold.

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<v Speaker 7>They're narcissistic, they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Hateful, they're incredibly rude. They rely on profanities rather than

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:50.040
<v Speaker 1>arguing a sound political point, whatever that point may be.

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 1>They are politically shallow and deeply deeply unpleasant.

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<v Speaker 7>But Grace Tame is far from alone.

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<v Speaker 1>She has plenty of company, including high profile individuals Abby

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<v Speaker 1>Chatfield to Ford, so many others. One of the articles

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned in the Weekend Australian was in the Weekend

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<v Speaker 1>Australian and it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Well worth a read.

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<v Speaker 1>It's by Julie Sego and it's entitled how Clementine Ford

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<v Speaker 1>went from must read feminist to inciting hatred against Israel.

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<v Speaker 7>In her article, Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>Sego reveals how much she used to look She used

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:24.359
<v Speaker 1>to look forward to and enjoy reading Clementine Ford, who

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<v Speaker 1>used to write a column for the Sidney Morning Herald

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and the Age column about man's sex life in general.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Clementine Ford got disciplined while in that lucrative

0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 1>gig for using the F word against Scott Morrison. Seems

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the F word is popular with young feminists. Ford has

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<v Speaker 1>now moved on from railing against men to railing against

0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Jews or zios as she calls people who support Israel,

0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:50.799
<v Speaker 1>as Julie Sego writes quote as is the case with

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:55.920
<v Speaker 1>many Israel loaths. Clementine Ford's lies grew darker as she

0:56:56.080 --> 0:57:01.840
<v Speaker 1>descended deeper into conspiracy. She shared an inographic accusing Israel

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<v Speaker 1>of training dogs.

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<v Speaker 7>To rape Palestinians.

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:08.600
<v Speaker 1>When in September the bodies of six Israeli hostages were

0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:12.280
<v Speaker 1>found in tunnels in Gaza, having been shot at close range,

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Clementine Ford said, I don't for a second believe that Harmass.

0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 7>Executed those hostages.

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:23.040
<v Speaker 1>This was a lie forward insisted to manufacture consent for

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the IDF's genocide. I mean, this stuff is just Julie Sego,

0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 1>by the way, details all this obnoxious stuff, and it's

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 1>worth pointing out that she, as a journalist, used to

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:37.920
<v Speaker 1>in fact is a very admirable and brave woman. She

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:41.480
<v Speaker 1>was sacked by the Age newspaper apparently for daring to

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:46.360
<v Speaker 1>criticize the rampant trans and woke ideology at that outlet,

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and good honor, well done. She also attended the famous

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Let Women Speak rally in Melbourne with those other brave

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 1>women more redeeming Catherine Deeves and others. Again, Julie Sego

0:57:57.080 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 1>a woman to be admired. But back to her must

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:02.480
<v Speaker 1>read art about Clementine Ford, where she writes to Clementine

0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Ford also accuses those who support Israel or criticize Clementine

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 1>as repugnant, brainwashed racists who flatter themselves that they're the

0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 1>most moral people on earth. There are not enough babies

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:19.680
<v Speaker 1>in the world who could be bombed to satisfy Zionus

0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 1>ideological Further, this is sick stuff.

0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:24.320
<v Speaker 7>Again. The F word and the sea word.

0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Are used liberally by Clementine Ford with depressing regularity, f

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Israel and so on, which, as far as political slogans go,

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 1>let's face, it is neither clever nor particularly illuminating. In fact,

0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:37.320
<v Speaker 1>using the F word as your major political comment has

0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to be the definition of laziness to the point of

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:43.440
<v Speaker 1>being brain dead. Which brings us to another young feminist

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 1>heroine who fits this same anti Jewish relying on profanasis

0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:48.120
<v Speaker 1>pattern to a t.

0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:50.120
<v Speaker 7>Gret Tathumburg.

0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 1>When Greta first magically appeared on the scene, lauded by

0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the left as some kind of Swedish savant schoolgirl, supposedly

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 1>a modern Joan of arc railing against the sins of

0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 1>men kind, namely climate change. Back then we weren't allowed

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>to criticize her a because of her young age and

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:09.440
<v Speaker 1>b because of her spectrum disorder. Well, she has no

0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 1>fine wine. She has not improved with age, at all.

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Greta is the queen of incandescent rage against authority. Hilariously,

0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 1>most of the world took her how dare you speech?

0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Seriously, this is all wrong.

0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 7>I shouldn't be up here.

0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 15>I should be back in school on the other side

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:30.800
<v Speaker 15>of the ocean.

0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:34.840
<v Speaker 7>Yes, perhaps you should have been. Indeed, how dare you?

0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Greta was such a devotee of getting rid of fossil

0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 1>fuels that she traveled famously traveled on a yacht to

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:42.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the many global warming conferences.

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:43.680
<v Speaker 7>There's a great gimmick.

0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:46.200
<v Speaker 1>But like most climate fanatics, she has apparently switched to

0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:49.840
<v Speaker 1>fossil fuels when a higher cause demands it. Now Greta

0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:53.400
<v Speaker 1>is wandering around the Mediterranean and on a reportedly diesel

0:59:53.480 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 1>powered ship, intent on saving Gaza from the evil Israelis

0:59:57.640 --> 1:00:00.320
<v Speaker 1>or some such nonsense. And of course she too liies

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:03.680
<v Speaker 1>on that snappy four letter word to make her point.

1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:14.280
<v Speaker 7>Is great role role model.

1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 1>There another brilliant article, Illustratim, came out on Friday, written

1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:19.760
<v Speaker 1>by the talented young writer Zoe Booth, and it was

1:00:19.840 --> 1:00:24.240
<v Speaker 1>an insightful critique of another young Australian hard left girl

1:00:24.440 --> 1:00:29.680
<v Speaker 1>boss and so called female influencer Hannah Ferguson, who calls

1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:33.320
<v Speaker 1>herself proudly progressive and says if she had a political slogan,

1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:35.360
<v Speaker 1>it would be I'm not pale.

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<v Speaker 7>Male or stale. Wow, how original inspiring that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah Ferguson is a regular on the ABC and social media,

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<v Speaker 1>even spoke at the National Press Club recently. Clearly the

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<v Speaker 1>left adore her. But as Zoe Booth wrote in her

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<v Speaker 1>article on Friday about the Press Club speech, quote, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was Hannah Ferguson's naive claims about an Israeli genocide

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<v Speaker 1>blood libel is very in with feminist influences lately. See

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<v Speaker 1>Grace Taine, Greta Tundberg, Abby Chatfield, Clementine Ford, or her

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<v Speaker 1>apparent belief that she's the only woman succeeding in alternative media.

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<v Speaker 1>I spent right, Zoe Booth, so much time wincing while

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<v Speaker 1>listening to her address. I should invoice her for the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of removing the wrinkless she edged on my forehead.

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<v Speaker 1>Great stuff and great writing there, Zoe. Zoe Booth, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, was her self a left winger in her

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<v Speaker 1>adolescence who spoke last year about her transition from radical

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<v Speaker 1>leftists to them or I guess conservative common sense worldview.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a snippet as Zoe Booth explains the attraction for

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<v Speaker 1>young women in this simplistic to this simplistic, hateful narrative

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<v Speaker 1>about the patriarchy which has pedaled to all young Australian women.

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<v Speaker 21>All that little girls are treated differently as they get

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<v Speaker 21>older and become women.

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<v Speaker 6>Why is that the case?

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<v Speaker 21>You know, Well, because there's a patriarchy and that's the

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<v Speaker 21>answer to it. It's simply that men are you know,

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<v Speaker 21>power hungry people who will abuse women. Oh okay, done that.

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<v Speaker 21>It seems very simple to me and it answered my questions.

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<v Speaker 21>It made me angry, but it just answered questions for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And Zoe went on to question and become a great

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<v Speaker 1>writer writing for Quillette and The Australian other places.

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<v Speaker 7>But this is the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Young Australian girls are taught to feel victimized and angry.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of them get seduced by this idea of being nasty,

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<v Speaker 1>are being spiteful? I fueled my hatred in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get then rewarded with deplauded social media, taxpayer under grants,

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<v Speaker 1>Other accolades, schools eulogize them and of course, universities lionize them.

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<v Speaker 1>Dare criticize these girls and you are a misogynist. Arrogance

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<v Speaker 1>fuels narcissism, and all the while Australia's daughters are being

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<v Speaker 1>taught to be like these women, to idolize them for

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<v Speaker 1>their so called courage, and many choose to emulate them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet at heart, what do these individuals offer. Profanities and

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<v Speaker 1>slogans which are apt to inspire due hatred, not a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty mix.

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<v Speaker 7>Australian girls deserve so much better.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me start by nominating some better role models

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<v Speaker 1>for Ossie girls. How about emulating those women who are

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<v Speaker 1>prepared to defy the stifling political correctness of the left,

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<v Speaker 1>and who refuse to be seduced by the lure of

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<v Speaker 1>social media fame feeding off profanities and ugly hatreds. Women

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<v Speaker 1>who are prepared to defy, to stand up for themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>to think for themselves. Women, I might I say, like

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<v Speaker 1>those two writers at The Australian, Julie Zego and Zoe.

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<v Speaker 7>Booth, Well here's a tree.

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales Libertarian Party MLC John Ruddick joins us

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<v Speaker 1>now live in the studio outsider. His fans know John

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<v Speaker 1>very well, good to see you back here in the studio,

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<v Speaker 1>John Life to say you're out now you'd gone on

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<v Speaker 1>some success. The success John was of course a liber

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<v Speaker 1>You wrote a book Make the Liberal Party Great Again,

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<v Speaker 1>great slogan all the way back in twenty seventeen. They

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<v Speaker 1>ignored you completely and so you said goodbye Liberals and

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<v Speaker 1>started got involved with the libertarians.

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<v Speaker 7>And now you're in the New South Wales Parliament where

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<v Speaker 7>you are now calling and.

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<v Speaker 1>This great article in the Spectator about this, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>now you are calling for the gun rules, the gun

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<v Speaker 1>laws that Australia is so famous for, to be overturned

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<v Speaker 1>for New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 7>To allow more access to guns for the citizens. Explain

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<v Speaker 7>why in asteratic, Well.

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<v Speaker 22>Look, we believe that in the Libertarian party that government

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<v Speaker 22>is inherently dangerous. So classical liberals and libertarians have a

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<v Speaker 22>lot of overlap. But the classical liberals, people like Ronald Bragan,

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<v Speaker 22>Margaret that they say government is fundamentally good. We need

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<v Speaker 22>to keep it small, but it is fundamentally good. Libertarians,

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<v Speaker 22>we think we know our history better. We say government

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<v Speaker 22>is inherently dangerous because they tend to morph into tyrannies.

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<v Speaker 22>The very first thing a dictatorship does when it comes

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<v Speaker 22>to power is it disarms the people. So what we

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<v Speaker 22>say is, like the American Founding Fathers, we say it's

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<v Speaker 22>healthy for there to be a counterweight against state power.

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<v Speaker 22>So the anti gun activists, I'm not saying they don't

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<v Speaker 22>want any guns in society. They're saying that they want

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<v Speaker 22>the government to have a monopoly on guns, and we

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<v Speaker 22>say that's danger and this is why the American Founding

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<v Speaker 22>Fathers were right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you put forward four arguments, two of which I

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<v Speaker 1>found pretty compelling and interesting.

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<v Speaker 7>The first being.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw so what you're talking about government going way

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<v Speaker 1>beyond what it should be doing, we actually saw it

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<v Speaker 1>out in COVID for the first time in Australia. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a glimpse of what's an Australian elected authoritarian government

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<v Speaker 1>looks like.

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<v Speaker 7>And it was very, very ugly and a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>People still haven't recovered from that. The use of force

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<v Speaker 1>against the population. Your second argument, which is a fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>one in light of what we've seen in the last week,

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<v Speaker 1>where Anthony Albanezia said we don't need any more defense

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia.

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<v Speaker 7>You're arguing that when a citizen.

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<v Speaker 1>The citizens are armed, other nations are going to think

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<v Speaker 1>twice about maybe getting as aggressive as they would. If

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<v Speaker 1>those arguments are pretty interesting, explain the rationale behind them.

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<v Speaker 22>Well, look, we should assume that Australia sometime in the

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<v Speaker 22>next century or two is going to be invaded. We

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<v Speaker 22>hope it won't be, but we should assume that there

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<v Speaker 22>will be some Napoleonic figure marching across Asia and they

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<v Speaker 22>could wipe out the Australian defense force. We've got a

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<v Speaker 22>good defense force, but it is relatively small. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 22>let's say the defense forces wiped out and we're disarmed.

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<v Speaker 22>They're going to think this is a piece of cake.

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<v Speaker 22>We can march and here we'll run the whole show. If,

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<v Speaker 22>on the other hand, they think every second house might

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<v Speaker 22>have a firearm, they can think we'll take out the

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<v Speaker 22>defense force, but then we'll have a pretty serious counter resistance.

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<v Speaker 22>So that's why they will be more reluctant.

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<v Speaker 7>To invade Australia.

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<v Speaker 22>And the COVID argument, well, look, we believe that COVID

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<v Speaker 22>was potentially just the beginning of what they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 22>As soon as COVID are over, they start racking up

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<v Speaker 22>all this anti free speech and stuff. So they treated

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<v Speaker 22>us like farm animals in COVID. But they didn't in

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<v Speaker 22>America because the American government knows that you can't push

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<v Speaker 22>the American people around too much or they can revolt.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's what that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Why libertarians are just, you know, a little bit wacky,

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<v Speaker 4>like you guys have some good ideas, but in the

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<v Speaker 4>end you just go off the reservation. I mean America. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Florida and Texas, the Red States were pretty free, but

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<v Speaker 4>they had even more stringent rules in parts of the states,

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<v Speaker 4>including New York, California, Canadians as.

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<v Speaker 7>Bad as Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>As Australia.

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<v Speaker 22>Australia, they were Melbourne had a two hundred day lockdown

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<v Speaker 22>read it was the world record by California.

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<v Speaker 4>They were chasing people down at the beach who were

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<v Speaker 4>by themselves. They were locking up people for opening up

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<v Speaker 4>their shops. I mean, and Canada were banning the bank

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<v Speaker 4>accounts of truckers for just having a peaceful anti lockdown protest.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got plenty of guns there. I understand in theory,

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<v Speaker 4>but I just think in actice this would be madness.

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<v Speaker 22>Well, I have what's your argument, so you say you opposed,

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<v Speaker 22>but I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>I've a refuge reader. I haven't heard what I need

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<v Speaker 7>to refuge it. Okay, argument that I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Argument what I'm refuging. The claim that if we had arms,

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<v Speaker 4>we wouldn't have had the COVID conditions.

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<v Speaker 22>Okay, well, okay, let's address that one. Okay, In the

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<v Speaker 22>United States, about seventy five percent of people took two

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<v Speaker 22>of the warp speed vaccines. In Australia it's ninety eight percent.

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<v Speaker 22>They had the same they had the same political leadership,

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<v Speaker 22>corporate media and everyone shouting take your backs, take your backs,

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<v Speaker 22>take you back.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a very big difference.

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<v Speaker 4>If we had a mandate here, you couldn't go to

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<v Speaker 4>most I tried.

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<v Speaker 10>To do that.

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<v Speaker 22>They tried to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're arguing that guns had some kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>gravity force.

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<v Speaker 7>There again, the count streets the counterweight.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, look, did we get we get all that?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, like, we can get into the weeds with

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<v Speaker 5>a argument about the teats of the American founding versus

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<v Speaker 5>the Australian founding, and you know why the two countries

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<v Speaker 5>might have a different sort of approach. But I would

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<v Speaker 5>think that you know, in a highly pragmatic and practical

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<v Speaker 5>nation like Australia. Wouldn't the argument be that number one,

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<v Speaker 5>these rules have gone too far and anybody who you

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<v Speaker 5>know has a rule property and has to deal with

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<v Speaker 5>the authorities on just simple things like a twenty two

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<v Speaker 5>even you know, for protection or for dealing with rabbits

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, it's you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, they're treated to just they want to have, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>an arsenal of AK forty sevens. But beyond that, though

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<v Speaker 5>New South Wales we've seen a huge increase in the

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<v Speaker 5>number of murders almost every week, you know, at least

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<v Speaker 5>once a week. My pay of the Daily Telegraph reports

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<v Speaker 5>on some shooting incident with handguns, which are apparently banned.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, I was coming across Cleveland Street several

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<v Speaker 5>months ago when there was a shooting at a petrol

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<v Speaker 5>station where it was an armed hit on some gangster type.

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<v Speaker 5>Some criminals have got criminals have got God, government's got

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<v Speaker 5>c pre citizens. It would seem to me that just

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of the politics of this, this might get

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<v Speaker 5>a bit more sort of traction in the community.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't the self defense argument a strong one because you have,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, we've seen gangs with machetes down in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 7>You know one of.

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<v Speaker 4>Those gangs to have ready.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, the gangs again are going to do what they're

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<v Speaker 7>going to do.

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<v Speaker 10>They're gonna do what they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely the self defense argument, I would like to be

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<v Speaker 1>I had a gun as a kid.

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<v Speaker 7>We had guns in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone did the ability to defend my family if.

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<v Speaker 7>It came to it.

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<v Speaker 4>John, We're so different because America. Like the arguments about

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<v Speaker 4>what did the Americans get rid of their guns? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a mad argument because there's literally hundreds of millions

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<v Speaker 4>of guns out there and if you got rid of guns,

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<v Speaker 4>only the criminals would happen.

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<v Speaker 22>It would be a terrible thing. But everyone wants to

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<v Speaker 22>talk about the United States. Let's talk about another country.

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<v Speaker 22>Let's talk about Switzerland. Switzerland has a very similar ratio

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<v Speaker 22>of gun ownership to the United States. Yes, and they've

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<v Speaker 22>got the lawest homicide rate in the world, So it's

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<v Speaker 22>not the guns causing the homicides.

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<v Speaker 8>Now in the United.

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<v Speaker 22>States, there are states with a lower homicide rate than

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<v Speaker 22>New South Wales, places like New Hampshire, where they've got

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<v Speaker 22>the most relaxed gun laws in the world. At New

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<v Speaker 22>Hampshire last year had eleven homicides out of every per

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<v Speaker 22>million people. New South Wales was three times eight. So

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<v Speaker 22>it's not the guns causing the problem. Now there are

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<v Speaker 22>parts of America where, yes, there is a gun problem.

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<v Speaker 22>Where's that inner city crime, gangs. It's not caused by

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<v Speaker 22>the guns. It's caused by other social factors.

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<v Speaker 4>True, But do you really want to have some of

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<v Speaker 4>the lunatics we've got running around here, some of the

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<v Speaker 4>political political extremists of the left, to have access to guns.

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<v Speaker 4>Even they're doing some stuff.

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<v Speaker 22>They're getting access to the guns, and then if they

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<v Speaker 22>can't find then they'll use a machete. So the people, what

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<v Speaker 22>you're saying, reader, is we want to be outsource our

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<v Speaker 22>personal safety to the police. So you're gettingmugs, someone's break

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<v Speaker 22>into your home, you're bringing up the cops best case

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<v Speaker 22>out there in five minutes.

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<v Speaker 7>Best case.

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<v Speaker 22>These crimes are done in the matters of seconds, not minutes.

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<v Speaker 22>So it's the personal safety. But there is the fourth

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<v Speaker 22>argument that I mentioned in the speech, which the spectator

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<v Speaker 22>a kindly run. Having your right to self defense makes

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<v Speaker 22>you more of a rugged individualist, and this is why

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<v Speaker 22>it makes you more creative, makes you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 22>more of a man, and this is why the United States.

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<v Speaker 7>And you're ready, do you want to be more of

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<v Speaker 7>a man, you need a gun.

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<v Speaker 22>This is why the United States has so much ingenuity

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<v Speaker 22>and creativity that they've only invented things like mass produced cars, electricity,

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<v Speaker 22>the Internet, AI computers, aeroplanes, Thank you America. So this

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<v Speaker 22>is because they are they stand.

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<v Speaker 7>On their own two feet.

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<v Speaker 22>They don't want to outsource their safety and everything else

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<v Speaker 22>to the government. Okay, but the major, the number one

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<v Speaker 22>towering point why it's dangerous to have the government having

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<v Speaker 22>a monopoly on guns is that history tells us government

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<v Speaker 22>unchecked will grow into a tyranny. Now it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 22>happen overnight, but it definitely that's how government does. It

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<v Speaker 22>grows like a cancer. We need to keep it in check.

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<v Speaker 22>We need to have the people with the right to

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<v Speaker 22>bear arms.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, though, I feel like, you know, with this argument

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<v Speaker 5>about America versus Strea. And believe me, I've been here

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<v Speaker 5>for twenty plus years and I have tried to, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>make these American freedom arguments to Australians with limited success.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes it must be said, simply because the nature of

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<v Speaker 5>the two countries is different. Isn't the real argument here

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<v Speaker 5>to create the culture of liberty and then out of

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<v Speaker 5>that you get the desire for personal protection. Because right now,

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<v Speaker 5>if you've got people who say, oh, well, we like government,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean that was the crazy thing about this election.

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<v Speaker 5>We just had you know, Albert Easy ran on protecting

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<v Speaker 5>public servants, which is an American I thought, that's insane.

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<v Speaker 8>Who wants to predict club it service?

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<v Speaker 22>Well, James, I would say, prior to COVID, I would

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<v Speaker 22>say that you're corrected. About three percent of Australians would

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<v Speaker 22>have understood theose arguments that the founding fathers of America

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<v Speaker 22>first made. I would say, Now, after COVID and after

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<v Speaker 22>the explosion in straight crime, particularly in Victoria and in Queensland,

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<v Speaker 22>I recoon it's down close to ten percent. And that's

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<v Speaker 22>without without there being any discussion. So is my constitutional

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<v Speaker 22>going to get through the new South Wales Parliament? My

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<v Speaker 22>hunters are probably won't on this occasion. But as Confucius

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<v Speaker 22>taught us, every long journey start with the first step.

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<v Speaker 22>This is the first step. And look here we are

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<v Speaker 22>on the outside on Sunday morning, promoting the need for

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<v Speaker 22>the citizens to od guds. This might take some time,

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<v Speaker 22>but we're going to continue to persist with it. It's in

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<v Speaker 22>austral as long term interest.

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<v Speaker 1>One argument which you've kind of put forward, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think is backs up what you're saying, is of course

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<v Speaker 1>the Clive James argument, which is that's Australians. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>with Australians is not that we're descended from convicts, but

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<v Speaker 1>that we're descended from prison offices, and those prison officers

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<v Speaker 1>do seem to enjoy treating us like convicts and keeping

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<v Speaker 1>us in our place.

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<v Speaker 7>And we've seen this more and more and more.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk the other day, we had we've had guests

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<v Speaker 1>on who have every day their business is confronted by

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<v Speaker 1>the overreach of red tape, green tape, black tape authoritarianism.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is true, it is undeniable that this country

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<v Speaker 1>is not the bastion of liberty that it was in

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<v Speaker 1>the John Howard years. It has become far more authoritarian

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<v Speaker 1>and if you need weapons as a balance. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>mass immigration. We've got people coming from all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people come from very violent cultures and countries and

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<v Speaker 1>they're coming straight into this country. Dropped in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of this country. I think there are arguments for your case.

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<v Speaker 22>Well, I am overwhelmingly optimistic about the future of Australia.

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<v Speaker 22>Now we are in a bad patch. I believe John

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<v Speaker 22>Howard is an overrated Prime minister. He disarmed us sinister,

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<v Speaker 22>raising change wars, locked.

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<v Speaker 7>In middle pass welfare.

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<v Speaker 22>Okay, but I think that long term it was a

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<v Speaker 22>dangerous thing what John Howard did. He's empowered the criminals

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<v Speaker 22>and he's made the state bigger, bigger and bossier. But

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<v Speaker 22>we can still turn this around. We've got plenty of

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<v Speaker 22>Australia's got a fantastic foundation because for two hundred and

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<v Speaker 22>twenty five years we've been a very We've been a

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<v Speaker 22>capitalist country.

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<v Speaker 7>Ok. We had when I was growing up. You used

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<v Speaker 7>to be able to walk in the k martin buy

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<v Speaker 7>a gun exactly one. As a kid, I shooting the

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<v Speaker 7>VB cans off the fence. RITA is you're going to

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<v Speaker 7>be convinced sooner or late.

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<v Speaker 6>I could see you coming round.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe that's the sussful sources.

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<v Speaker 4>If I was living in the States, within the first month,

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<v Speaker 4>I would have a firearm. In Australia, it's a different

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<v Speaker 4>Kelly Field.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great, fascinating argument. Thank you, John Good luck with

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<v Speaker 1>that's in the New South Wales Parliament. That's great, that's

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<v Speaker 1>John Roddick there MLC in the New South Wales pilom

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<v Speaker 1>for the Libertarians party. After the break, James, don't give

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<v Speaker 1>rt In a tick.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, you're watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan, don't believe

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<v Speaker 5>your eyes Dean and Rita power of perception Pany and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm James.

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<v Speaker 8>Made you look Moorrow.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they say power is all about perception, and I

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<v Speaker 5>guess that's true, because perception can be another word for

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<v Speaker 5>making people believe things that aren't necessarily true, things like

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats actually care about and are on the side of

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<v Speaker 5>real Americans, which sometimes leads to hilarious moments like this

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<v Speaker 5>one when they dressed Tim Waltz up like Elmer Fudd

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<v Speaker 5>to show that he's a real man's man who loves

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<v Speaker 5>hunting and guns and drinking beer and hanging out with

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<v Speaker 5>the guys.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know, I think you and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Both know the truth about this that if you give

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<v Speaker 5>a Democrat a choice between actually defending an American and

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<v Speaker 5>sticking up for what they like to call an undocumented migrant,

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<v Speaker 5>well guess what they're gonna take That second choice. The

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<v Speaker 5>migrant every time. Exhibit a this man kill Albrego Garcia,

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<v Speaker 5>a man routinely described in the press and by Democrats

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<v Speaker 5>as a simple Maryland father, a migrant wrongly ripped from

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<v Speaker 5>the arms of his loving family by Donald Trump's gestapo

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<v Speaker 5>and sent to a notorious El Saladoran gulag.

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<v Speaker 11>They mistakenly deported a Maria father with protected legal status

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<v Speaker 11>to this horrific prison in El Salvador.

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<v Speaker 6>The Marylander married to a.

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<v Speaker 7>US citizen who is a five year old son with autism.

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<v Speaker 6>Sir Garcia was abducted. He is a father, he is

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<v Speaker 6>a husband, he's a union member.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, good news left is that's right, baby, He's coming home.

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<v Speaker 5>Kill Mark's coming back to the US, as the left

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<v Speaker 5>wing newsers Axios first reported it with the headline quote

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<v Speaker 5>breaking wrongly deported Mariland man kill Marrow Brega Garcia is

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<v Speaker 5>on his way back to the US unquote. But you

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<v Speaker 5>know what they say, never let the facts get in

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<v Speaker 5>the way with a good story. Because they quickly had

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<v Speaker 5>to update the yarn when the uh intimate part when

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<v Speaker 5>they when they was pointed out how this band was

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<v Speaker 5>actually being portrayed. The new headline was somewhat different reading

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<v Speaker 5>quote new kil Breda Garcia has been charged with smuggling

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<v Speaker 5>undocumented immigran in the US, allegedly making more than one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred trips. He also allegedly abused undocumented females and solicited

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<v Speaker 5>nude photographs and videos from a minor. Well, that's a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit different. Here's a bit of Attorney General Pam

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<v Speaker 5>Bondi laying out more of the accusations against this poor

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<v Speaker 5>Maryland father.

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<v Speaker 23>This defendant trafficked firearms and narcotics throughout our country on

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<v Speaker 23>multiple occasions. They were using vehicles SUVs with added seats

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<v Speaker 23>in the back.

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<v Speaker 6>Floors that had been ripped out.

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<v Speaker 23>Guns, narcotics, children, women, MS thirteen members.

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<v Speaker 6>That is what the grand jury found.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, this is the.

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<v Speaker 5>Non citizen criminal whose rights were so important that the

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<v Speaker 5>congressmen representing the Maryland district where the Maryland father lived

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<v Speaker 5>flew all the way down to El Salvador to have a.

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<v Speaker 8>Drink with him and make sure he was okay.

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<v Speaker 7>Gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>So you have to wonder did that congressman or anybody

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<v Speaker 5>else going to bat for him do the same with

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<v Speaker 5>Kilmar's alleged victims.

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<v Speaker 8>No, of course not.

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<v Speaker 5>But you see that's what democrats and the left do.

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<v Speaker 5>They take the side of migrants over Americans every day

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<v Speaker 5>of the week, and twice on Sunday if they're accused

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<v Speaker 5>of committing a crime. There's examples of this all over

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<v Speaker 5>the country at the moment. This weekend, in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 5>many riots broke out when activists decided that they were

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<v Speaker 5>going to apparently storm a migrant detention center and trap

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<v Speaker 5>some federal agents inside until they could eventually be rescued

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<v Speaker 5>by other law enforcement. Elsewhere in the city, ICE agents

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<v Speaker 5>were barricaded inside a store for their own safety after

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<v Speaker 5>an angry crowd tried to stop them arresting to deport

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<v Speaker 5>illegal migrants. I gotta say, it feels like we're about

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<v Speaker 5>to see a replay of twenty twenty Summer of Love

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<v Speaker 5>in the US, only with radicals targeting armed ICE agents

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<v Speaker 5>instead of mainstream shopkeepers. Well yeah, I'm sure that's going

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<v Speaker 5>to go really well for them.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's not just LA.

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<v Speaker 5>In Boston, hard left mayor Michelle Wu has compared ICE

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<v Speaker 5>agents to two Nazis. Why because they wear masks?

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<v Speaker 6>Does it clarify? Are you comparing ICE? You said to

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<v Speaker 6>NSC one thirty one The neo Nazi group. Are you

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<v Speaker 6>comparing them to a neo Nazi group?

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<v Speaker 21>What I said is that Boston police and no police

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<v Speaker 21>department that I know of at the local level routinely

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<v Speaker 21>wears masks.

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<v Speaker 5>Ah, yes, masks, hey ms woo your honor is that

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<v Speaker 5>you anyway? Meanwhile, back in the old hometown of New York,

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<v Speaker 5>radical leftists have been trying to interfere with ICE agents

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<v Speaker 5>picking up detainees even in courthouses. Look at that on

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<v Speaker 5>your screen there, while my oral candidates for the upcoming

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<v Speaker 5>Democrat bar or Pride Mary are falling all over themselves

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<v Speaker 5>to say just how much they will stand up against

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<v Speaker 5>ICE agents coming in to deport illegal aliens, even keeping

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<v Speaker 5>them out of prisons.

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<v Speaker 11>I will always be a mayor that will stand up

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<v Speaker 11>for our immigrants. Donald Trump's ICE has no place on

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<v Speaker 11>Rikers Island. Donald Trump's ICE has no place pulling our

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<v Speaker 11>people that are taking their court they're legal fort dates now,

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<v Speaker 11>no right, not in my New York.

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<v Speaker 21>Ah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, no ICE agents at New York's infamous prison Rikers Island.

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<v Speaker 5>With the Democrats, you know, it really is a case

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<v Speaker 5>of the inmates running the asylum.

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<v Speaker 7>Great stuff, Chan, how good news.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Homan Trump, they are going to be deploying the

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<v Speaker 4>National Guard. They're going to be making sure that order

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<v Speaker 4>is restored. If the Californian authorities want to let the

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<v Speaker 4>nut bags run riot, they're not going to tolerate that anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the scenes we've seen James have just been absolutely shocking,

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<v Speaker 4>just lawlessness ed rita.

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<v Speaker 5>See here, these scenes are from a little while ago.

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<v Speaker 5>These are protesters here and they're squaring up against the

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<v Speaker 5>cops here, and you note that they're holding Mexican flags,

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<v Speaker 5>which seems to be really really curious for people to say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>we're migrants who want part of the American dream. This

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<v Speaker 5>looks like separatism to me. And it looks like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>something that most Americans simply wouldn't want a part of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is you know what, if you want to be flying

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<v Speaker 4>the flag of any other nation in a protest, perhaps

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, go there.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's the really, that's the real thing. Look at

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<v Speaker 5>the live shots here. We're seeing live shots here from

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<v Speaker 5>Los Angeles right now. Again with the Mexican flag, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just so strange. You're waving the flag of the

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<v Speaker 5>country you're terrified of being deported to I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>how that makes sense, but the National Guard point readA

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really glad you brought that up. That's so crucial

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<v Speaker 5>because you know, in twenty twenty, when the Black Lives

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<v Speaker 5>Matter riots were running, there was the whole thing where

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<v Speaker 5>all these states refused to call out the National Guard.

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<v Speaker 5>When Tom Cotton wrote an op ed for the New

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<v Speaker 5>York Times suggesting the National Guard being brought out, it

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<v Speaker 5>basically blew up the entire New York Times editorial page.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, you have to, just as in the sixties,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, when this sort of thing happened before, bring

1:24:18.160 --> 1:24:20.680
<v Speaker 5>out the National Guard. Restore order because this is not

1:24:20.960 --> 1:24:22.280
<v Speaker 5>you know, First Amendment speech.

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<v Speaker 8>This is rioting.

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<v Speaker 5>There's been other footage that have shown protesters throwing bricks

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<v Speaker 5>and rocks into the windscreens of cars going by as

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<v Speaker 5>part of these protests.

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<v Speaker 8>You see that they're on your screen right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is one.

1:24:35.080 --> 1:24:39.640
<v Speaker 5>Hundred percent illegal, violent, criminal, dangerous behavior. These people need

1:24:39.720 --> 1:24:42.000
<v Speaker 5>to be dealt with really, really harshly.

1:24:42.200 --> 1:24:45.960
<v Speaker 4>And let's not be in any doubt the Trump administration

1:24:46.120 --> 1:24:48.800
<v Speaker 4>has a mandate to do precisely what it's doing. This

1:24:48.920 --> 1:24:53.040
<v Speaker 4>is what we're wrote on this and this policy enjoys

1:24:53.280 --> 1:24:56.960
<v Speaker 4>mainstream support. It's not just the Trump base. The polling

1:24:57.120 --> 1:25:01.679
<v Speaker 4>shows that the majority of Americans want every single illegal

1:25:01.720 --> 1:25:04.560
<v Speaker 4>immigrant to be deported, not just the criminal elements. So

1:25:05.080 --> 1:25:07.920
<v Speaker 4>this is not only a policy that Trump has a

1:25:08.000 --> 1:25:11.560
<v Speaker 4>mandate on, it's one that is widely supported. So for

1:25:11.680 --> 1:25:14.240
<v Speaker 4>these activists to be behaving, this is a sense of

1:25:14.439 --> 1:25:16.720
<v Speaker 4>entitlement that comes from the left because they've had their

1:25:16.760 --> 1:25:20.679
<v Speaker 4>way for so long, when conservatives getting that aren't actually

1:25:20.760 --> 1:25:22.960
<v Speaker 4>exercised because.

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<v Speaker 1>Also they don't have an argument. They resort to violence

1:25:25.840 --> 1:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>every time. The left do it all the time. They

1:25:27.800 --> 1:25:31.000
<v Speaker 1>don't have the argument. I just want to move on

1:25:31.120 --> 1:25:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to this thing, which is that not only are the

1:25:33.320 --> 1:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>deporting people, you've got to stop the wrong people coming in.

1:25:36.080 --> 1:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>And I was referring to this earlier in Australia, we

1:25:38.640 --> 1:25:40.240
<v Speaker 1>seem to be quite happy to just let millions of

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<v Speaker 1>people in from.

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<v Speaker 7>All sorts of places.

1:25:42.479 --> 1:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>But Donald Trump has announced a travel ban on twelve

1:25:45.439 --> 1:25:49.360
<v Speaker 1>separate countries, Somalia's, Sudan, other places like that. I think

1:25:49.400 --> 1:25:52.640
<v Speaker 1>it is where he's basically saying, come on, we've got

1:25:52.720 --> 1:25:54.519
<v Speaker 1>to be careful who's coming into the country.

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<v Speaker 5>James Well, and you know, we had that whole horrible

1:25:56.400 --> 1:25:59.320
<v Speaker 5>incident border last week and border Colorado when the guy

1:25:59.400 --> 1:26:01.880
<v Speaker 5>who was I think he was from Egypt, which is

1:26:02.000 --> 1:26:05.040
<v Speaker 5>not on that list, but he was somebody who overstayed

1:26:05.080 --> 1:26:07.599
<v Speaker 5>his visa and his family overstayed their visa, and then

1:26:07.880 --> 1:26:09.719
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if they made an asylum claim or whatever,

1:26:09.800 --> 1:26:12.720
<v Speaker 5>but the Biden administration granted the rights to work and

1:26:12.840 --> 1:26:14.960
<v Speaker 5>stay in the country. And then, of course, you know

1:26:15.400 --> 1:26:17.680
<v Speaker 5>that happened. That should never have happened, because that guy

1:26:17.760 --> 1:26:20.760
<v Speaker 5>should never have been in the country in the first place.

1:26:21.000 --> 1:26:23.680
<v Speaker 5>That's what this all comes down to. The Biden administration

1:26:24.040 --> 1:26:26.920
<v Speaker 5>let millions and millions of people into the country. It

1:26:27.040 --> 1:26:30.360
<v Speaker 5>was very cynical. They saw how close the race was

1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:32.960
<v Speaker 5>in twenty sixteen, they felt that should never happen. They

1:26:33.240 --> 1:26:35.200
<v Speaker 5>knew that Trump was a threat, they knew the Republicans

1:26:35.240 --> 1:26:37.000
<v Speaker 5>were a threat to them, and so I think the

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<v Speaker 5>idea was to long run stack the demography to create

1:26:40.479 --> 1:26:43.800
<v Speaker 5>more and more Democrat voters. That was the end goal

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<v Speaker 5>of all of this incredibly cynical play with the safety

1:26:46.720 --> 1:26:48.760
<v Speaker 5>and security of America. And I'll just say this. You

1:26:48.840 --> 1:26:51.280
<v Speaker 5>know the left loves to talk about, Oh it's a

1:26:51.360 --> 1:26:54.240
<v Speaker 5>crisis of democracy. The right is threatening democracy when you

1:26:54.400 --> 1:26:57.759
<v Speaker 5>can't actually and when you refuse to control who comes

1:26:57.960 --> 1:27:01.479
<v Speaker 5>into your country and remove those people who should not

1:27:01.640 --> 1:27:04.760
<v Speaker 5>be in your country. That is the biggest crisis of

1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:05.760
<v Speaker 5>democracy of all.

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<v Speaker 4>And the interesting thing is the Latino vote for Trump

1:27:11.680 --> 1:27:14.080
<v Speaker 4>is enormous. In fact, there was an opinion poll out

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<v Speaker 4>just in recent days where his approval rating amongst the

1:27:18.880 --> 1:27:22.280
<v Speaker 4>Latino community was sixty three percent. From memory, it was

1:27:22.320 --> 1:27:26.799
<v Speaker 4>one of the highest of any of those demographics. Because

1:27:27.160 --> 1:27:29.920
<v Speaker 4>there's this belief by the left that if you're an immigrant,

1:27:30.360 --> 1:27:34.240
<v Speaker 4>then you're just for open borders, you want just unchecked

1:27:34.640 --> 1:27:36.320
<v Speaker 4>immigration millions coming in.

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<v Speaker 7>That is not the case behind you.

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<v Speaker 4>Here legally, and you've had to go through a process.

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<v Speaker 4>You resent those who are.

1:27:47.800 --> 1:27:50.800
<v Speaker 5>Not only that if you're Latina or your black resort off.

1:27:50.840 --> 1:27:52.960
<v Speaker 5>A lot of black people come across, Black men come

1:27:53.000 --> 1:27:55.680
<v Speaker 5>across to the Republicans of Trump. It's about the suppression

1:27:55.720 --> 1:27:59.000
<v Speaker 5>of working class wages, you know, in the low wage migrants,

1:27:59.040 --> 1:28:03.479
<v Speaker 5>illegal mirgrants, suppressed wages. Study after study has shown that.

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<v Speaker 5>So these demographics will say, no, I don't want people

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<v Speaker 5>coming in driving down my wages, driving down my quality

1:28:10.080 --> 1:28:12.200
<v Speaker 5>of life. And you know it gets back again to

1:28:12.240 --> 1:28:13.960
<v Speaker 5>what we were talking about earlier in the show Rode

1:28:13.960 --> 1:28:17.240
<v Speaker 5>and Rita about that split between the Maga Republicans and

1:28:17.280 --> 1:28:20.840
<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump and the libertarian open border of people like

1:28:20.960 --> 1:28:23.519
<v Speaker 5>Elon Musk who were very happy to bring in tech

1:28:23.600 --> 1:28:25.960
<v Speaker 5>workers on the cheap and screw the middle class.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but let's you know, we're not having the discussion

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<v Speaker 1>in this nation about immigration we should have. The Dutton

1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:35.360
<v Speaker 1>led coalition was so pathetic during the run up to

1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the election campaign. They said twenty five percent cut for

1:28:38.640 --> 1:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a year or two years or whatever it was. We

1:28:40.479 --> 1:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>need a serious conversation about immigration in this country. We're

1:28:42.960 --> 1:28:46.479
<v Speaker 1>pouring millions of people in. Maybe fine, may not be fine,

1:28:46.520 --> 1:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>but we need to have that discussion and we're not

1:28:48.800 --> 1:28:53.519
<v Speaker 1>having it. After break, canber Clown Show in a tick,

1:28:57.840 --> 1:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Roll up, roll up, step right this way, it's the

1:29:00.320 --> 1:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>show in town is the Canberra Clown Show. Here's a

1:29:03.160 --> 1:29:06.679
<v Speaker 1>map of Sydney electorates. Back when the Liberals fought against

1:29:06.840 --> 1:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>net zero and opposed carbon taxes the Abbot years, the

1:29:10.760 --> 1:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Libs held around half.

1:29:12.240 --> 1:29:13.639
<v Speaker 7>Of the seats in Greater Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they betrayed the voters and signed up to net

1:29:16.640 --> 1:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>zero and the woke agenda because supposedly some dodgy international investors.

1:29:21.400 --> 1:29:21.880
<v Speaker 7>Told them to.

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<v Speaker 1>Today at the Liberals hold just four of the thirty

1:29:24.720 --> 1:29:28.120
<v Speaker 1>four seats in the Greater Sydney Region Cook, Lindsay, Mitchell

1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and Barrara, the same number as the Teals and the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Irony. The so called moderate Liberals think that being

1:29:35.400 --> 1:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>even more woke and pushing net zero further is the

1:29:38.920 --> 1:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>way back to power.

1:29:40.120 --> 1:29:42.559
<v Speaker 7>What a joke. Meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Member of the Greens has defected and joined Labor Senator

1:29:46.000 --> 1:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Derinda Cox, who good question. According to one Labor senator,

1:29:50.400 --> 1:29:51.519
<v Speaker 1>she's a basket weaver.

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<v Speaker 24>This this government doesn't apologize for continuing to support the

1:30:02.520 --> 1:30:06.519
<v Speaker 24>guests industry and ensure that the lights stay on so

1:30:06.640 --> 1:30:10.720
<v Speaker 24>that even basket weavers like yourself, Senator Cox, can have.

1:30:10.880 --> 1:30:11.959
<v Speaker 7>Light nice.

1:30:13.360 --> 1:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>When she's not basket weaving or swapping parties. Drinder Cox

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<v Speaker 1>has committed to chanting slogans that many people claim as

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<v Speaker 1>a call for genocide against the Jewish population of Israel.

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<v Speaker 14>We are urging the government to step up their action

1:30:27.040 --> 1:30:31.080
<v Speaker 14>to condemn Israel about its actions in Gaza, and I

1:30:31.160 --> 1:30:34.120
<v Speaker 14>think that we will continue to change from the river

1:30:34.200 --> 1:30:37.360
<v Speaker 14>to the sea to ensure that freedom and peace are delivered.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't have any objection to that.

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<v Speaker 7>And she's now in the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 1>In other news from the Burly Griffin Big Top, the

1:30:44.280 --> 1:30:47.719
<v Speaker 1>ABC's chief political clown Laura Tingle hung up her clown

1:30:47.760 --> 1:30:48.479
<v Speaker 1>shoes this week.

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<v Speaker 7>Again, who I hear you ask?

1:30:51.040 --> 1:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>So I asked AI for Laura Tingle's finest moment and

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I got.

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<v Speaker 22>Life.

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<v Speaker 6>And we've been rehearsing for over forty thousan years.

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<v Speaker 4>So everybody, how are you.

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<v Speaker 8>Sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>Must have asked AI the wrong question. That was Lara Bingle,

1:31:14.280 --> 1:31:16.439
<v Speaker 1>not Laura Tingle. I always get those two mixed up.

1:31:16.640 --> 1:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Here's Laura bing Tingle sorry, practicing her Ossie slang vernacular.

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<v Speaker 4>Laura Tingle, I can only imagine that labor must be

1:31:23.760 --> 1:31:24.919
<v Speaker 4>absolutely ropable.

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<v Speaker 8>Lee.

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<v Speaker 6>I think you'd have to say this spewen.

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<v Speaker 25>Any pitch shop gala can tell you that the absolutely

1:31:30.560 --> 1:31:33.040
<v Speaker 25>overwhelming issue for voters is the cost of living.

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<v Speaker 7>By Elections are.

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<v Speaker 25>Usually an opportunity for voters to give the government of

1:31:37.160 --> 1:31:38.719
<v Speaker 25>the day a kick up the bum.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounded so natural. Laura Tingle also described the coalition

1:31:43.360 --> 1:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>as a clown show last week. Say what you will,

1:31:47.040 --> 1:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>but I can't help thinking she was secretly auditioning for

1:31:50.120 --> 1:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a job here on Outsiders. Laura also got in trouble

1:31:54.000 --> 1:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>recently for describing you, me, all Australians as racists.

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<v Speaker 4>We are a racist compul its face that we always

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<v Speaker 4>have been, and it's very depressing.

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<v Speaker 17>But to give a.

1:32:04.320 --> 1:32:08.680
<v Speaker 25>License like that I find more profoundly depressing and terrible.

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<v Speaker 7>Prospect for the next election. Yes, we're all racists. Apparently

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<v Speaker 7>speak for yourself, Laura.

1:32:15.080 --> 1:32:16.040
<v Speaker 8>In fact, she did.

1:32:16.600 --> 1:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Laura Tingle's greatest hit, the moment she declared that Indigenous

1:32:19.720 --> 1:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Australians needed to make way for Anthony Albanezi if they

1:32:23.400 --> 1:32:26.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted the voice to get up. Pretty much wrong on

1:32:26.200 --> 1:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>all accounts as it happened, and just my opinion, But

1:32:29.520 --> 1:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>how a listen. Surely isn't there a tinge or should

1:32:32.240 --> 1:32:34.839
<v Speaker 1>that be a tingle of racism in these comments?

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<v Speaker 7>You decide it.

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<v Speaker 25>Really is time for the Prime Minister to come in

1:32:39.439 --> 1:32:42.320
<v Speaker 25>and sort of take control of this debate, not the

1:32:42.400 --> 1:32:45.200
<v Speaker 25>Indigenous Caucus, not all those Indigenous leaders.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there is a real push that.

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<v Speaker 25>You know that this will go down unless something really

1:32:50.320 --> 1:32:53.840
<v Speaker 25>materially changes, And it's not about advertising. It's about that

1:32:54.000 --> 1:32:56.480
<v Speaker 25>political leadership and that sense of political.

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<v Speaker 7>Ah well, don't worry, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>The voice ain't going away despite the Australian people overwhelmingly

1:33:02.680 --> 1:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>saying no to it in the referendum. Here's Alboso and

1:33:06.000 --> 1:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>his Indigenous minister, Melander and McCarthy just last year.

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<v Speaker 24>What we're proposed is Macaradam just being the idea of

1:33:17.160 --> 1:33:17.840
<v Speaker 24>coming together.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, I'm still confused and I apologize for that.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a prospect of a Macarati Commission still being

1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:27.479
<v Speaker 1>set up based on what you're saying this morning.

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<v Speaker 26>I'm saying that the principles of the Orlary statement from

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<v Speaker 26>the heart are very much supported by our government. In

1:33:32.960 --> 1:33:35.400
<v Speaker 26>four what we have to do absolutely, you know, the

1:33:35.479 --> 1:33:38.479
<v Speaker 26>Prime Minister made that commitment on election night.

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<v Speaker 1>Even scarier, here's Pennywise, the clown, sorry Penny Wong, just

1:33:43.640 --> 1:33:44.439
<v Speaker 1>over a month ago.

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<v Speaker 27>I think we'll look back on it in ten years

1:33:47.200 --> 1:33:49.760
<v Speaker 27>time and it'll be like marriage equality, don't you reckon?

1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:52.840
<v Speaker 27>Like I always just say marriage equality, which took us

1:33:52.960 --> 1:33:56.040
<v Speaker 27>such a bloody fight to get that done, and I thought,

1:33:56.280 --> 1:34:00.439
<v Speaker 27>all this fuss, it'll become something. It'll be like, do

1:34:00.560 --> 1:34:02.200
<v Speaker 27>we have an argument about that. They weren't even like

1:34:02.640 --> 1:34:06.320
<v Speaker 27>kids today or any even adults today, nearly kind of

1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:07.799
<v Speaker 27>clock that it used to be an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Forget about the referendum, Forget over sixty percent of

1:34:12.479 --> 1:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Australians voting, Forget every single state except the Act saying

1:34:17.000 --> 1:34:21.720
<v Speaker 1>a loud, clear and unequivocal no to the voice, to Pennywong.

1:34:21.400 --> 1:34:24.519
<v Speaker 7>And labor, it ain't going away. It's back.

1:34:25.600 --> 1:34:30.479
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, this anti nuclear, pro renewables and pro net zero bozo.

1:34:30.720 --> 1:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Former New South Wales Treasurer Matt Kean was back in

1:34:33.640 --> 1:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the spotlight this week with this stupendous comment at an

1:34:37.120 --> 1:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>energy forum where he had this amazing insight quote. Those

1:34:41.600 --> 1:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>arguing for nuclear energy are the same people wanting to

1:34:44.960 --> 1:34:49.280
<v Speaker 1>bring back Blockbuster video chains when the world is watching Netflix,

1:34:49.880 --> 1:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>h Matt. Not really a great analogy, given that Google,

1:34:54.960 --> 1:34:58.280
<v Speaker 1>who owned Netflix, are busy buying up nuclear power plants

1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>as the only way to provide I have enough power

1:35:01.280 --> 1:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>for their future energy needs, as indeed are matter owners

1:35:04.400 --> 1:35:07.280
<v Speaker 1>of Facebook. Not sure you really understand how this energy

1:35:07.320 --> 1:35:11.479
<v Speaker 1>supply thing works, Matt, and speaking of that zero nutters

1:35:11.560 --> 1:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and climate clowns, none come creepier or more dangerous than

1:35:15.040 --> 1:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>former New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda A. Dern, who has

1:35:18.040 --> 1:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>found a new friend this week, Oprah Winfrey.

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<v Speaker 6>This woman has been a heroine, a hero for me

1:35:25.360 --> 1:35:26.320
<v Speaker 6>for so many years.

1:35:26.360 --> 1:35:27.320
<v Speaker 7>I've admired I from.

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<v Speaker 12>Afar and this is the first time I've had the

1:35:29.680 --> 1:35:32.880
<v Speaker 12>opportunity to sit down and have a conversation. Because she's

1:35:32.880 --> 1:35:35.840
<v Speaker 12>written a book called A Different Kind of Power, and

1:35:36.439 --> 1:35:38.400
<v Speaker 12>I love that you call it that because the different

1:35:38.479 --> 1:35:40.919
<v Speaker 12>kind of power is kindness.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, It's all.

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<v Speaker 28>Those things that you think are weaknesses or are taught

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<v Speaker 28>are weaknesses.

1:35:45.920 --> 1:35:51.960
<v Speaker 20>Empathy, sensitivity, self doubt and humility that powerful.

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<v Speaker 12>What I admire is that you're a Prime Minister and

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<v Speaker 12>you made a decision that I am going to have

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<v Speaker 12>kindness as a prince from my administration.

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<v Speaker 7>Kindness as of principle.

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<v Speaker 1>Hardcore Marxistar Dern are pupil of the World Economic Forum,

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<v Speaker 1>imposed one of the most draconian and disgraceful COVID regimes

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, insisting in the time honored fashion of

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<v Speaker 1>tyrants throughout the ages that she and her labor government

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<v Speaker 1>were the sole source of truth I.

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<v Speaker 6>Am present on social media or I see it myself.

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<v Speaker 28>I cannot go around and individually dismiss every single rumor

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<v Speaker 28>I see on social media, as tempted as I might

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<v Speaker 28>be otherwise dismiss anything else. We will continue to be

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<v Speaker 28>your single source of truth. We will provide information frequently.

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<v Speaker 1>And who can forget Jollyagercenter's greatest jape, deliberately dividing her

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<v Speaker 1>nation talking about kindness, dividing her nation into two separate

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<v Speaker 1>classes of people.

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<v Speaker 10>So you basically see it.

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<v Speaker 18>This is going to be like it's almost like you

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<v Speaker 18>probably don't seem like this, the two different classes of people.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're vaccinated or if you're unvaccinated, you have all

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<v Speaker 7>these rights. If you are vaccinated, that is what it is.

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<v Speaker 6>So yep, yep, that is what it is.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep. Kindness as a principle.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't make me laugh still, just into the Kiwi clown

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<v Speaker 1>at least at a razor sharp sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 7>Here she is doing her.

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<v Speaker 1>See how many times I can touch my face while

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking circusack, What.

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<v Speaker 6>A laugh, switnessache.

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<v Speaker 10>You'll be right, you look, you're probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of shot over the end.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, you've r's ready to go.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, who wants to kick off?

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<v Speaker 7>Ah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, hatpering memories of the greatest Kiwi clown of them all?

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<v Speaker 1>Do Kiwis regret the madness of the ardoon years?

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<v Speaker 7>Who knows? And what would split ends? He'll say.

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<v Speaker 1>Hypaboll extreme exaggeration, as described by Julia Gillard hyperblely. James

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about well one of your favorite topics food.

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<v Speaker 8>Food, glorious food. Yeah, I love this story here in

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<v Speaker 8>the UK Telegraph.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know the Michelin Guide, right, and they give

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<v Speaker 5>the stars to big restaurants one, two, three stars, big coveted,

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<v Speaker 5>big deal thing in the restaurant industry. Anyway, it turns

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<v Speaker 5>out that you know that little website, The Conversation. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 5>somebody there has gone and attacked the Michelin Guide for

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<v Speaker 5>being racist, eurocentric because fine dining didn't originate in Europe,

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<v Speaker 5>and also elitist because of course that's what fine dining is.

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<v Speaker 8>And now, of course what they want to do now

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<v Speaker 8>this is hilarious. They want to decolonize the Michelin Guide.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no Michelin starred restaurants. What in Africa.

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<v Speaker 8>Biased?

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<v Speaker 5>It's the whole bias is towards you. Know, eurocentric colonizer food.

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<v Speaker 5>It's elitist, it's all.

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<v Speaker 4>Of this participation.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't buy it. It's to be broad marched through and destroyed.

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<v Speaker 4>Another ratings guide where you award these restaurants that you

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<v Speaker 4>think are being neglected. I don't understand why they can't,

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<v Speaker 4>just that they have to destroy what's already.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they never build, because they can only destroy all.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, exactly. This decolonized thing is so dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>It is such an an evil idea because it basically

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<v Speaker 1>just means rip out the Western Enlightenment stuff from everything that's.

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<v Speaker 7>There and whatever rubbish eleft. And it's violent, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>nothing to do with race. It's nothing to do with whites.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the institutions, the successful institutions of governance, of

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<v Speaker 1>social norms and so on.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell us, well, Kamala's back.

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<v Speaker 7>I missed her.

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<v Speaker 4>The worst vice president we have seen. Now, let's hear

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<v Speaker 4>from her.

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<v Speaker 16>No one should fear going to a pride celebration because

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<v Speaker 16>of a white supremacist.

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<v Speaker 17>No one should fear.

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<v Speaker 10>Loving who they love.

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<v Speaker 4>Just mad Rant from the Cackler in Chief. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>it's Pride months, the whole month of June. The White

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<v Speaker 4>House this year is not marking the month. They have

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<v Speaker 4>said that they're going to be inclusive of all Americans.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not going to single out a particular sexual orientation.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, there is no rainbow light displays at the

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<v Speaker 4>White House.

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<v Speaker 1>Well this is good, James, because you know I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, people like this show or people watch

1:40:49.360 --> 1:40:51.799
<v Speaker 1>the show actually do speak up against this stuff. Target.

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<v Speaker 1>We've spoken about Target a lot in the past over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. Every Pride month June they do all this

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<v Speaker 1>pretty dubious stuff they've known in America had gone full

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<v Speaker 1>American Trumpia.

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<v Speaker 5>Around America, off seas around America too, or councilors are

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<v Speaker 5>scaling back this stuff too. So yeah, so the winn

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<v Speaker 5>is different, definitely shifted.

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<v Speaker 1>It shifts because people speak up, and because people are

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<v Speaker 1>happy to speak up, and because shows like this are

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<v Speaker 1>happy to it.

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<v Speaker 7>Is really going on.

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<v Speaker 8>That's it for this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Week, that's it for outside the scene. Next Sunday, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're watching Sky during the week. Now it's a

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<v Speaker 1>ross screen Woods.

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<v Speaker 7>Bye.