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<v Speaker 1>The outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning and welcome to outsiders the show that is

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<v Speaker 2>the globalist fantasies of one world government and decisions affecting

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<v Speaker 2>all our lives being taken by sinister unelected bureaucrats.

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<v Speaker 1>Held bent on power.

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<v Speaker 2>What Penny Wong is to reassuring us all that we

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<v Speaker 2>are safe from the above, And now have the honor

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<v Speaker 2>to invite Senator the Honorable Penny Wong, Minister for Foreign Affairs,

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of the Prime Minister of Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, while we were all busy with the imploding coalition,

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<v Speaker 3>last week, Australia joined the globalist elites and signed us

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<v Speaker 3>up to the World Health Organizations Global Pandemic Agreement.

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<v Speaker 4>COVID nineteen crystallized in the archiest of terms what we

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<v Speaker 4>already know to be true. Global challenges require collective action.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why the world came together with a shared ambition

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<v Speaker 4>to act on hard earned lessons, to work towards an

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<v Speaker 4>agreement to reduce the risk of future pandemics and make

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<v Speaker 4>the world safer for everyone, no matter who you are

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<v Speaker 4>or where you live. Because we know these health emergencies

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<v Speaker 4>don't recognize national borders.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I feel safer already yes, there you have it

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<v Speaker 5>in one fell swoop, the globalist fantasy of a global

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<v Speaker 5>health bureaucracy with who knows what potential to potentially overrule

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<v Speaker 5>national governments. Thank you so much, Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 4>Adopting this agreement not only affirms our shared commitment to

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<v Speaker 4>action guarded by principles of equity, it also demonstrates the

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<v Speaker 4>value of the international community working together to find solutions

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<v Speaker 4>to shared global challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>Australia is proud.

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<v Speaker 4>To have served as the vice chair of the Intergovernmental

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<v Speaker 4>Negotiating Body for the Pandemic Agreement, representing our diverse Western

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<v Speaker 4>Pacific region, and I commend all negotiators for their hard work.

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<v Speaker 4>I also thank Director General TETROS, World Health Organization staff,

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<v Speaker 4>and UN and civil society colleagues and other stakeholders for

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<v Speaker 4>your support and contribution to this agreement.

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<v Speaker 3>Needless to say, it was only Donald Trump who refused

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<v Speaker 3>to sign up the US to this monstrosity.

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<v Speaker 5>And speaking of monstrosities, we also learned this week that

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<v Speaker 5>the Biden administration, remember those guys, were classifying as domestic

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<v Speaker 5>extremists and putting on terror watchlists, among others, those who

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<v Speaker 5>opposed the COVID mandates.

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<v Speaker 6>And while Some of the examples that are focused on

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<v Speaker 6>there have to do with those who opposed the COVID

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<v Speaker 6>vaccine mandates. Those who opposed the mask mandates, parents who

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<v Speaker 6>were concerned that their children going to school may be

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<v Speaker 6>forcibly vaccinated at the COVID vaccine without the concenter awareness

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<v Speaker 6>of parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Penny Wong has just signed us up, you and me

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<v Speaker 2>and all of us to the World Health Organization's Global

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<v Speaker 2>Pandemic Agreement. What an absolute disgrace. Will we wait for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever horrors that might entail in the years to come.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's grab the latest outside as news.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Richard James, a week of the coalitions struggling around

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<v Speaker 2>are they together?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they not together? Who's to blame? Who did what wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>And all?

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a shambles, But maybe they're getting their act together.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think, Rita.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, from the outside, it looks like the Liberals have

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<v Speaker 3>capitulated and agreed to those four non negotiables essentially that

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<v Speaker 3>the National said they needed to see in place before

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<v Speaker 3>they would sign up the coalition. It's just been very

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<v Speaker 3>confusing a week because at one stage we were told,

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<v Speaker 3>oh no, no, Susan Lee's not wanting to have this

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<v Speaker 3>coalition reformed. It's going to be three years before there's

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<v Speaker 3>another agreement, and then within a couple of days. It

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<v Speaker 3>seems like we're on the verge of the coalition being reformed.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the Nationals for non negotiables, a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of them might form city folks seem a bit strange,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think they speak to their electorate and given

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<v Speaker 3>that the Nationals are the ones who actually performed well

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<v Speaker 3>at the election, they've got a fair bit of leverage.

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<v Speaker 5>James Well, yes and no, because I think that all

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<v Speaker 5>of this really looks really, really bad for David Little Proud.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, let's not forget David Little Proud is the

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<v Speaker 5>guy who led them into this whole disastrous situation where

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<v Speaker 5>they wound up pulling the pin on the coalition. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't really think that the four issues that we're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about, aside from nuclear were really the approximate reasons

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<v Speaker 5>why this whole thing blew up. You know, the party

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<v Speaker 5>room dynamic so of the National Party is very interesting

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<v Speaker 5>sort of thing. Matt Canavan, I understand, challenge for leadership

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<v Speaker 5>came closer than David Little Proud thought he was going to.

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<v Speaker 5>David Little Proud, who was just on Andrew Clenell just

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<v Speaker 5>now basically forced through this whole de merger of the

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<v Speaker 5>Coalition in an attempt to hold on to his own power.

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<v Speaker 5>So the whole thing I think, you know, with him

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<v Speaker 5>going back, but when he goes back and then you

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<v Speaker 5>know has to go and beg Susan Leigh to take

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<v Speaker 5>them back, you know, I think that he's actually really

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<v Speaker 5>weakened in the long run the National's position so long

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<v Speaker 5>as at least David Little Proud remains leader. And the

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<v Speaker 5>big question now is who comes next. Does Little Proud

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<v Speaker 5>stay as leader or does the party room now look

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<v Speaker 5>at him as having led them up the garden path

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<v Speaker 5>on going to this merger and spill him for somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>But the first thing to say is that Little Prowd

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<v Speaker 2>did lead the Nationals or was pushed by the National

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<v Speaker 2>party room into the Voice, which was terrific and that

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<v Speaker 2>had terrific results. So a bit of backbone is a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing to see. But the real issue here, Rita

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<v Speaker 2>and James, in my opinion is net zero. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>elephant in the room, and all this is just shadow

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<v Speaker 2>dancing around that issue. Now, the two leaders Susan Lee

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<v Speaker 2>and David Little Proud are on the left of both

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<v Speaker 2>their parties, on the wetter side, the bed wedding side.

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<v Speaker 2>They clearly are still clinging on.

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<v Speaker 1>To net zero. Susan Lee obviously is of that faction.

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<v Speaker 1>David Little Proud just talking to Andrew clene Leans.

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<v Speaker 2>Equivocating but basically, oh, yes, very important that we cut emissions.

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<v Speaker 1>Nonsense, absolute nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>The rest of the world is abandoning net zero, abandoning

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of cutting emissions. Donald Trump is attacking Kirs Starmer.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had the New Zealanders abandoning it. Everyone is moving

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<v Speaker 2>away from this. The single most important issue that the

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<v Speaker 2>Nationals and the Liberals and the Coalition all have to

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<v Speaker 2>decide is where do they abandon net zero? If they

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<v Speaker 2>want to win the next election, they have to. There

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<v Speaker 2>is no other issue. The rest of this is smoke

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<v Speaker 2>and mirrors.

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<v Speaker 7>In opinion, I agree hundred on that.

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<v Speaker 3>It is interesting though that both Susan Lee and David

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<v Speaker 3>Little Pratt on the left of their respective parties. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't get along, they don't like each other, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that dynamic has also played a role in this.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, there's all sorts of another leadership challenge. A

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of names being thrown up, not just Matt Canavan,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Michael McCormick has certainly Barnby Joyce said that he would

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<v Speaker 5>back Michael McCormick the are for was reporter.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Matt Canavan on the show shortly, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be putting all those questions to Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's also talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact you've got, for example, Zoe Daniel, who is.

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<v Speaker 3>Now well, I've got to say I am as as

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<v Speaker 3>as someone who lives in the electorate of Goldstein. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>very scared because so Daniel is well, she's undermining democracy.

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<v Speaker 3>She's I think you know this is a call it.

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<v Speaker 1>A So she's refusing to acknowledge defeat. Well, she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>an election denier.

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<v Speaker 8>She appears to be an election denial.

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<v Speaker 3>She seems to be refusing to accept the reality that

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<v Speaker 3>the votes have been counted. It's more than one hundred votes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not going to trigger an automatic recount, and she's

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<v Speaker 3>still not conceding to this day. So everyone's announced that

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<v Speaker 3>the Australian Electoral Commission her terrified because this is the

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<v Speaker 3>sort of election denial that is a threat.

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<v Speaker 9>This is a threatmoscopes, you know, but saying that this

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<v Speaker 9>is not the Australian way.

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<v Speaker 3>This is yeah, this is I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we're in a constitutional crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So it'll be June sixth. We won't have January sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind the Zoe Dan taking Parliament by.

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<v Speaker 5>Storm Chip Wilson's electorate office.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is one very very big issue which was

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<v Speaker 2>touch has been touched on and talked about this week,

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<v Speaker 2>which is critical. Is this unrealized tax on capital gains.

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<v Speaker 2>Unrealized capital gains tax on your superannuation. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>super accounts over three million. It's unindexed, which means as

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<v Speaker 2>the years go by, more and more people fall into

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<v Speaker 2>that bracket, particularly younger people who underware of what awaits them.

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<v Speaker 2>Unrealized capital gains is the reverse of capitalism.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolute nadea, if you like, of how communism and socialism

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<v Speaker 2>is permeating through our economic system. James, we have this

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<v Speaker 2>idea that the Australian Tax Office can just conjure up

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<v Speaker 2>out of thin air whatever profits they say we made

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<v Speaker 2>and then tax you on it.

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<v Speaker 5>This is so sinister and I want to walk everybody

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<v Speaker 5>through why this is so sinister, because we're starting to

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<v Speaker 5>see a lot of pushback in the media now, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>i'bviously Jim Chalmers offices out there briefing journalists and say no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not that big adeal. It is a really really

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<v Speaker 5>really big deal for a number of reasons, not just

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that it is going to tax unrealized games.

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<v Speaker 5>That is to say, gains that you know, might be

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<v Speaker 5>valued in something that's not liquid like shares, but you're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna have to be a tax on and which may

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<v Speaker 5>go down in the future. So if you've invested in

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<v Speaker 5>a business, a small business, if your farm is structured,

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<v Speaker 5>and a lot of people in the agricultural industry have

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<v Speaker 5>their farm structured through super for this very reason, that's

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<v Speaker 5>all over the family farm, you know. And again we

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<v Speaker 5>know how much left wing governments hate independent family farms.

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<v Speaker 5>They just you know, they want to destroy them in

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<v Speaker 5>every sort of which way they can. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>beyond that too, the way the regulations are written. And

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<v Speaker 5>if you read Robert Cottlebson in the Australian on this stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>he's really really good, he's really scary. The regulations that

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<v Speaker 5>are going to enable this shift are written in such

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<v Speaker 5>a loose way guys, that they could eventually go and

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<v Speaker 5>turnaround and be used to tax other asset classes, including

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<v Speaker 5>the family home. So this is the real citizen. And

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<v Speaker 5>they say, oh, this is small, this is reasonable. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just a few people at the very top end. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's not just the indexation, and we know how bad

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<v Speaker 5>indexation is. But it is also the fact that once

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<v Speaker 5>they wedge in this little principle, then I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 5>the next step is going to be the family home.

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<v Speaker 5>And they are going to use the intergenerational resentment they

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<v Speaker 5>have been stoking over home ownership to come after people

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<v Speaker 5>who have earned money in the home that they paid

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<v Speaker 5>for and that they are planning on using the wealth

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<v Speaker 5>that's grown out of that for their retirement. And it

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<v Speaker 5>is extremely sinister stuff and it is going to be divisive,

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<v Speaker 5>and it is going to be used for an intergenerational

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<v Speaker 5>scare campaign the likes you've never seen to keep labor

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<v Speaker 5>bolted in power.

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<v Speaker 3>Just watching fastly the sort of class warfare, the politics

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<v Speaker 3>of envy that the left absolutely adore, and they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to press ahead with it. And given that the Greens

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<v Speaker 3>have the control in the upper House, the balance of

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<v Speaker 3>power then this is going to get through quite easy.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't even need to negotiate with anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know the Greens are talking of lowering thats.

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<v Speaker 3>Were like this applied to the family home today, they

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<v Speaker 3>would like it to be applied to other investment vehicles,

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<v Speaker 3>whether that's property or other assets outside of your super

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<v Speaker 3>So this is something that I think really throughout the

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<v Speaker 3>election campaign that Coalition fail to articulate their position, articulate

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<v Speaker 3>what a danger this is, and people kind of just thought, ah, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's for very wealthy people with more than three million

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<v Speaker 3>in their soup aid doesn't apply to me, so who cares?

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<v Speaker 3>You should care because it will apply to others, and

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<v Speaker 3>even applying to the asset classes it applies to now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be so bad for investment.

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<v Speaker 10>So it's so short sighted.

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<v Speaker 3>For a little bit for a cash grab, not a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit a significant cash crops.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a risk, It is an absolute risk to

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<v Speaker 5>and at a time when we need real capital certainty

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<v Speaker 5>and we want to attract capital from around the globe.

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<v Speaker 5>I can tell you that there's a number of people

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<v Speaker 5>in this country who have a lot of money, serious money,

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<v Speaker 5>who also have a number of passports that are saying

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<v Speaker 5>do I stay here? Do I stay in Australia because

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<v Speaker 5>the risk here to my money, this government and I

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<v Speaker 5>just too great.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just throw in a couple more things into

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<v Speaker 2>that mix. Reata, which you're absolutely right about. Why this

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<v Speaker 2>is a magic pudding is that labor bringing in millions

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<v Speaker 2>of people. They're just flooding our cities with more and

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<v Speaker 2>more people. So what that does is that inflates This is.

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<v Speaker 1>Magic putting and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It inflates the values of property beyond what they're actually worth.

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<v Speaker 2>The tax office then comes in and says, oh, see

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<v Speaker 2>how your property has gone up. Okay, we'll take a

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<v Speaker 2>huge chunk of that, thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You very much. And money doesn't exist. So the money

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fake money, it's a fake tact because what

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<v Speaker 2>we are doing in this country is we're driving out

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<v Speaker 2>genuine investment right and we're replacing it with fantasy economics.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what this is what this election has led to,

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<v Speaker 2>and what Reta says about the Coalition failing to prosecute

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<v Speaker 2>is this show was one of the very few that

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<v Speaker 2>repeatedly raised unrealized capital gains on super throughout the election

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<v Speaker 2>and the Coalition failed to destroy labor, which they could

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<v Speaker 2>have done on this.

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<v Speaker 5>Very and what a contrast from twenty nineteen twenty twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, remember when the Coalition absolutely hammered and destroyed

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<v Speaker 5>Bill Shorten over frankin credit, which were something that nobody

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<v Speaker 5>even understood at the time. But everybody's got superannuation, so

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<v Speaker 5>this one should have been a real walk up start

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<v Speaker 5>and everybody either owns or wants to own a family home.

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<v Speaker 5>They should have just been like, this is an absolute

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<v Speaker 5>tax on aspiration, it is a tax on growth, and

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<v Speaker 5>this is what labor is all about. And now Albanezy

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<v Speaker 5>goes into this, Chalmers goes into this with what ninety

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<v Speaker 5>ninety one ninety three seats, however many seats they wind

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<v Speaker 5>up with, and they think they've got all of this

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<v Speaker 5>political care capital they are going to go they held

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<v Speaker 5>for leather in this Parliament and it won't just be

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<v Speaker 5>this just you wait, the attack on capital and all

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<v Speaker 5>of it's going to be the other thing they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to do. Just watch readA just watch this reader though too,

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<v Speaker 5>because even if you don't have three million dollars, they're

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<v Speaker 5>also going to say, oh, there's this huge part of

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<v Speaker 5>money out there in everybody is super and we want

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<v Speaker 5>to just say, hey, use this for some of our

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<v Speaker 5>nation building projects, uses for infrastructure, users for build to rent.

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<v Speaker 5>They tell you what to do with this. This is socialism.

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<v Speaker 10>This is what.

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<v Speaker 3>Happens when you've got one side who's terrified to fight

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<v Speaker 3>and wants to pretend to be labor light and right

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<v Speaker 3>now listening to the idiot pundits who don't want them

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<v Speaker 3>to do well, who are telling them to via further left,

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<v Speaker 3>to be even more labor light, to be even more unelectable.

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<v Speaker 7>And if you're going to do that, this is what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Because labor does have a mandate they want in a landslide,

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<v Speaker 3>they have a mandate.

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<v Speaker 10>To push ahead with these.

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<v Speaker 8>Policies just very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>The soldier over the opposition is to destroy the government,

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<v Speaker 2>bring it down on argument on philosophy, on economics, and

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<v Speaker 2>they fail to do that. But to mimic them is

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest crime against the Australian people. And the Coalitions

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<v Speaker 2>stand utterly condemned for the failure to fight, fight, fight,

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<v Speaker 2>which they should have done at the last election, as

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<v Speaker 2>they did in the Voice and when they.

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<v Speaker 5>Weren't absolutely but the thing is too. You know, this

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<v Speaker 5>country net zero is a very good example of this,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's not the only thing. This whole country here.

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<v Speaker 5>Greg Sheridan had a great piece in the Australia this

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<v Speaker 5>week and he talked about how this is a great

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<v Speaker 5>nation that is headed for mediocrity and there are so

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<v Speaker 5>many ways. Education, the economy, the growing share of government,

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<v Speaker 5>the way ndies is eating up absolutely everything, the way

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<v Speaker 5>the deficit is going to eat up absolutely everything, and

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<v Speaker 5>there's nobody left everything. We're going to turn into Victoria nationally, Rita.

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<v Speaker 5>I know you talk about Victoria a little bit later

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<v Speaker 5>on in the program, but you know, this whole country,

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<v Speaker 5>our luck is going to run out as a lucky

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<v Speaker 5>country if we're not careful. This is what This is

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<v Speaker 5>why the opposition, this is why the coalition needs to

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<v Speaker 5>stop having all of these internal fights over you know,

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<v Speaker 5>oh is it you know, dam it or Michael or

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<v Speaker 5>Susan or Agus or ever, and get together and stop

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<v Speaker 5>talking about themselves because nobody cares. They need to start

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<v Speaker 5>talking to the people.

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<v Speaker 2>They're heading down the wrong already, they are heading it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the personalities matter because if you've got people in

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<v Speaker 3>leadership roles who have no principles who just look at

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<v Speaker 3>focus groups, who don't actually have an ideological basis for

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<v Speaker 3>why they entered politics and.

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<v Speaker 7>What they want to achieve.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you have this labor light mismash of nonsense that

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<v Speaker 3>nobody wants. We've already got a Labor Party, we've already

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<v Speaker 3>got a Greens. We need an alternative, and you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to give people a clear alternative. And since was a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one when the Coalition adopted net zero, they've

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<v Speaker 3>been smashed into landslide election losses. Like how much more

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<v Speaker 3>proof do you need that this is not working for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Because when you've got a cost of living election, and

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<v Speaker 3>energy is such a huge basis of that, and you

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<v Speaker 3>can't fight that properly because you've signed up to the

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<v Speaker 3>same madness as Labor and the Greens, then what are

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<v Speaker 3>you going to do? And the other thing that is

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<v Speaker 3>so frustrating with the Coalition is that they know what's

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<v Speaker 3>happening in America.

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<v Speaker 7>They know that Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Is slashing corporate tax, he's slashing regulations, He's making it

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<v Speaker 3>very attractive for businesses to invest in the US. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the entire platform America first, And if you've got companies

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<v Speaker 3>that are looking at where we're going to invest.

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<v Speaker 10>So we're going to go to Australia with.

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<v Speaker 3>All that red tape, black tape, green tape, the high taxes,

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<v Speaker 3>or are we going to go to the US We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have the red carpet treatment. Think about it

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<v Speaker 3>like this affects everybody. It's not just the big end

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<v Speaker 3>of town. It's going to cost jobs. It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>see our living standards further compromise, and all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this something I just go correctly to your to

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<v Speaker 2>your Greg Sheridan piece, which was a very good piece.

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<v Speaker 2>As you say, he made the point for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in print we've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>What we've been saying on this show for years.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that every time the Coalition go down the path

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<v Speaker 2>of we believe in climate change, we believe in climate change,

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<v Speaker 2>they lose, and every time they stand against the madness

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<v Speaker 2>of the climate change orthodoxy.

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<v Speaker 5>They win.

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<v Speaker 2>Greg Sheridan was the first commentates a serious one I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen to put that fact there in.

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<v Speaker 1>Print in front of the coalition.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time you back climate change, you lose. And every

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<v Speaker 2>time you say no, no, no, no, this that this

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<v Speaker 2>climate change stuff has gone too far, you win.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it to understand about this. So you know what

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<v Speaker 5>people don't get here, and this is exactly right we are.

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<v Speaker 5>You know this is we've de industrialized this country. The

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<v Speaker 5>future of the global economy it's AIS. I was just

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<v Speaker 5>in America. The Americans I was talking to you said,

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<v Speaker 5>AI is high tech, but it's also heavy industry. We

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<v Speaker 5>need the power of the energy if we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>be part that revolution and have a slight to that part,

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<v Speaker 5>otherwise we're going to be left behind.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's fantastic that it's now in print what we've

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<v Speaker 3>been saying on this program week in and week out.

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<v Speaker 7>For five years, five years at least.

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<v Speaker 8>But the polling even bears this out, even.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're so focused on focus groups and polls, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the polling shows that when you give the Australian people

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<v Speaker 3>the choice between emission cuts and affordability and reliability, affordability

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<v Speaker 3>is always number one. Always, it is what people care about,

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<v Speaker 3>and particularly when we've got a cost of living crisis.

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<v Speaker 3>So for the Coalition to be so gutless not to

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<v Speaker 3>say we're going to fight.

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<v Speaker 11>This, We're going to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the hill we're going to die on. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're going to win.

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<v Speaker 2>The next selection on the IPA have a poll out

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<v Speaker 2>showing fifty eight percent of people Australians are kind of

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<v Speaker 2>ambivalent about net zero. They don't want to be paying

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<v Speaker 2>for it. Let's go to Matt Canavan, a Senator. Matt Canavan,

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<v Speaker 2>great to see you. Matt's up in Rocky fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I recognized it immediately. Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's let's ask the obvious question, because why aren't

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<v Speaker 2>you the leader of the NATS.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I'm not the leader because I lost by how

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<v Speaker 12>much you got to have the numbers? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't know you want to find out, because I

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<v Speaker 12>knew you'd ask and have to lie, and we don't

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<v Speaker 12>tell people. We keep that to ourselves and respect the room.

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<v Speaker 12>But it was, it was. It was a worthwhile effort

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<v Speaker 12>having a go, and I thank all the people, all

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<v Speaker 12>your viewers, the outsiders definitely got behind me and gave

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<v Speaker 12>it a good show. And I certainly think you know

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<v Speaker 12>we've moved to debait. That's that's the most important thing

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<v Speaker 12>to me, wasn't I didn't really run to become leader.

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<v Speaker 12>I ran to end our ridiculous support of this crazy

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<v Speaker 12>idea of net zero. Now, obviously that fight continues. I

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<v Speaker 12>haven't quite got there yet, but I had good conversations

0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:05.119
<v Speaker 12>with my colleagues about that. I'm sure there will be

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<v Speaker 12>a reflection on that policy at some point while we're

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<v Speaker 12>in opposition here because it's ruining our country. James just

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<v Speaker 12>mentioned it there, how it's de industrializing our nation. We've

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<v Speaker 12>lost our fertilizer industries and plastics industries and nickel industry

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<v Speaker 12>just in the first three years of net zero. I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>how much more punishment can our manufacturing sector take before

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<v Speaker 12>we wake up to ourselves and see that the rest

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<v Speaker 12>of the world is not doing the stuff New Zealand's

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<v Speaker 12>just dropped out. Why don't we actually start looking after

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<v Speaker 12>Australians for a change first?

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<v Speaker 3>So why wasn't net zero one of the four non

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<v Speaker 3>negotiables on the table? Why are we talking about almost

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<v Speaker 3>side issues when the number one issue is.

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<v Speaker 7>The net zero?

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<v Speaker 3>There is the majority of the Nationals Party room still

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<v Speaker 3>in support of net zero.

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<v Speaker 12>Look, we haven't had that debate yet, return suggest I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I suggest.

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<v Speaker 12>Without breaching confidence of the room. I said to people,

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 12>I said to people, don't vote for me unless you

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<v Speaker 12>wanted to scrap net zero. I mean I was running

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<v Speaker 12>on a single issue. You know, if you want to

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<v Speaker 12>get ridden in and zero vote for me. Now, I

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<v Speaker 12>do think, as I say, there's a willingness to open

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<v Speaker 12>this up. There's a question about when and how we

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<v Speaker 12>do that. So maybe I was a battering round that

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<v Speaker 12>was too soon on that issue, but it will have

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<v Speaker 12>the debate. I mean in terms of why it's not

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<v Speaker 12>one of the four I'm I'm not the leader and

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<v Speaker 12>not putting these things, but it comes back to the

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<v Speaker 12>fact that, well, we haven't had this debate yet. We

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<v Speaker 12>haven't adopted a position on net zero since the election

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<v Speaker 12>as the national party room, so you know, a leader

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<v Speaker 12>can't take that forward without the authority of the room.

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<v Speaker 12>I do give credit to David Little Brady has been

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<v Speaker 12>very involved with our party room and those four points

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<v Speaker 12>we have put forward are ones that we all support

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<v Speaker 12>and have supported for a long time, and he's been

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 12>pretty resolute. I think in putting those forward to the

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:00.640
<v Speaker 12>Liberal Party, glad that we have got to a point

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<v Speaker 12>of common sense here. But yeah, I've always been one

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 12>this week trying to introduce a level of calmness into

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.160
<v Speaker 12>this issue that it's not wouldn't be the first time

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 12>a coalition had to break. Probably won't be the last time.

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<v Speaker 12>We've got plenty of time to work these things out.

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<v Speaker 12>Right now, it seems to me that media has got

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<v Speaker 12>far too much focused on a shadow ministry, which, let's

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 12>face it, is pretty irrelevant in the next parliament. That's

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<v Speaker 12>I'm sorry to be front and honest with my colleagues,

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.160
<v Speaker 12>but we're kind of irrelevant right now. We're almost irrelevant

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 12>the Senate, certainly in the House. We've got to get

0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 12>our own act together that the way we become relevant

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 12>again is adopting a set of policies that are going

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 12>to win the support of the Australian people. It doesn't

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 12>matter who's in which particular shadow ministerial position. Right now,

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 12>we lost, We got thumped and we've got to think

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 12>about how we cannot get bumped again.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, Matt, I mean, look about five minutes ago, I

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:53.000
<v Speaker 5>don't know if you heard, I was saying that the

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 5>Coalition needs to stop talking about itself and start talking about,

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 5>you know, what it's going to do for the Australian people.

0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to reverse Carot on that though for a

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 5>second and ask you, though you know, is David little proud?

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 5>Is he tenable do you think as a leader, because

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 5>I know an awful lot of Nats feel like that

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 5>party room meeting over Zoom was called with a lot

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 5>of promises and sort of felt everybody sort of felt

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 5>a bit let up the garden path on this and

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.439
<v Speaker 5>that is going to be you know, now, if this

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 5>break continues, or if there's no resolved tension between you

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:24.159
<v Speaker 5>and you know, your liberal party room colleagues, there's going

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 5>to be no real ability to take on labor for

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 5>the next six years potentially, during which time an awful

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 5>lot of damage is going to be done. And what

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 5>do you start to do beyond these four policies to

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 5>start to say, look, we're serious. We want to reduce

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 5>the size of government, we want to reduce tax, we

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 5>want to reduce the impulsive government and get out of

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 5>people's way, which is what the coalition really should be about.

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 12>Well, I think David's been great over the past way

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 12>becaus I said earlier, he's showing the great strength and

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 12>resolution here to put these issues forward. It was all

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 12>discussed with all of our colleagues. I'm not going to

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 12>go into the details of a party or a meeting,

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 12>but we had those meetings. We went forward with that strategy,

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 12>it looks like a reasonable outcome has been achieved, although

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.959
<v Speaker 12>there's still of course details to work out here. But

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 12>I go back to where you started the question that

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 12>the focus should be on the istral people. And while yes,

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 12>I very much think this issue of zero missions is

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 12>even more important than those four points, the other four

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 12>points we're putting forward are very important as well, to

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 12>our people, to competition in our retail markets, to the

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 12>use of energy resources like uranium. So these are really

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 12>important matters to work through as well, and we've shown strengths.

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 12>So look, these policies are much more important than the

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.199
<v Speaker 12>relationship that we have with people in Canberra, and I

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 12>think that's what's most important. I mean, you know, like

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 12>you mentioned, I think you mentioned your question. There's a

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 12>lot of it. But the question that we mentioned about, well,

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 12>will we not be able to take it up to

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 12>labor And I've heard some people say.

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<v Speaker 13>That losing Matt there, I think the the NBN not

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 13>doing this job properly.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get back to Matt if it comes back up,

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll take a short break.

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 2>We'd come back lots more here on outsiders Back in

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 2>a tick. Great to get you back Matt, you're watching Outsiders.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Matt Tanavan from the Nationals is with us from Rockhampton. Matt,

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 2>have a look at Listen to Patricia Carvellis from the

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 2>ABC questioning your colleague, what exactly take a question?

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 8>I feel like there's a lot of blokes that.

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Have been asking questions.

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<v Speaker 14>Be nice if I coul ask the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Tricia carvellows, thank you very much. I've just observed this

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 1>too many blokes, Matt, too many blokes asking questions.

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 2>The ABC clearly feel that there's misogyny at work there

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 2>in the corridors.

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Little Proud is obviously an unrepentant text.

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Can you say, mate, put her out of a misery?

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 12>Oh look, how you actually get along with Patricia?

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 15>Really?

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 6>Well?

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 12>I get along with everybody. Maybe it's just a I

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 12>think she was probably just joking.

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 3>There, but well, in that look, I had to look

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:06.919
<v Speaker 3>at it, Matt. And the first question was asked by

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.199
<v Speaker 3>a woman. The question immediately before Patricia was asked by

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 3>I think there was five women who asked or five

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 3>questions asked by women before that question by Pratucias. They

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 3>weren't being silence as far as I could tell.

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 12>But Rata rata.

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<v Speaker 16>What is a woman A lot You're making a lot

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 16>of judgments there not just quickly, just have to double

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 16>check which women which was actually.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to confirm with you real quickly. I

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 5>am told by one of our viewers who has two

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 5>screens on, one watching us and one watching the ABC

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 5>Insiders that Kevin Hogan has told the Insiders that net

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 5>zero is National's policy and confirmed that is this in

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 5>fact National's policy to stick with net zero.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, look, as I said, we haven't had a discussion

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 12>since the election on it. To typically, what the situation

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 12>has been is that we have policies that we preves

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 12>he had continued to be our policies until we change them. Now,

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 12>it has been a little bit strange since the election

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 12>that both Susan Lay and David little Proud have said

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 12>will be reviewing a bunch of policies, including IT zero.

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 12>David Little Proud did say that, and my understanding the

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 12>Nationals Party will have a debate on this issue very

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.719
<v Speaker 12>soon and so that's what I'll be focused on, as

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 12>I say, focused on the people and just on that.

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 12>I was actually invited to come on Insiders as well,

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 12>but it passed with you guys. Thank you, thank you

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 12>very much, outsider.

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 2>And the good news is people will actually see you, Matt,

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>which is even better, so that's great news as well. Now, listen,

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 2>let's quickly ask you as well about this unrealized capital

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 2>gains tax on super because this is the other big

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>issue which wasn't prosecuted properly during the election. We did

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>chat about it, but the Coalition didn't really take it

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>up to Labor on this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really Sinnis to stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>Matt.

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>What's your thoughts on it.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, it's another big new to tax for people. In

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 12>other new tax form for them, they're going to have

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 12>to fill out not just an income tax form, but

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 12>every year, regardless of whether you're sell anything or not,

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 12>you're going to have to fill out a capital gainst

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 12>tax form and you're going to have to pay capital

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 12>gains whether you have a cash flow or not. And

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 12>this is not just another big tax from the Labor Party.

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 12>It is one of the most inequitable and unfair taxes

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 12>that could be designed, because you will be imposing a

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 12>tax liability on people to do not have the means

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 12>to pay for it. Some people in these situations will

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 12>be farmers that may not have a lot of income,

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 12>they may have drought years, and they'll be hit potentially

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.719
<v Speaker 12>with a capital gains tax. That's the value of their

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 12>farm goes up of course if they don't sell it,

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.239
<v Speaker 12>and they've got that in super but they don't sell it,

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 12>they've got no cash to pay that tax bill. How

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 12>are they going to do it? And this makes no

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 12>sense whatsoever. And you've got pretty much everybody across the

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 12>political spectrum that has any knowledge of finance arguing against this,

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 12>including lots of Ken Henry, who's hardly usually a support

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 12>of the Liberal and National parties. But maybe you know,

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 12>I don't think Jim Chalmers knows a lot about finance.

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 12>He says he's going.

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 5>To agree, but I think we've seen.

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 12>In economics so maybe he should be listening to some

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 12>of these people actually understand how this sort of stuff

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 12>works and how attacks like this could do enormous damage

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 12>not just to individual people, but also to our broader

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 12>economy and investment environment as well. And I think our

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 12>economy we are, from what I hear from business since

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 12>the election, were a real risk of a recession very

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 12>soon because this government has failed to fix productivity, interest rates,

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 12>remain elevated despite the cut this week. Louis should not

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 12>be adding things like this right now and increasing the

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 12>risk of a recession.

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>And it also puts a huge risk on farmers apparently,

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>as James was saying before, if you start fantasizing about

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>what that increased unrealized capital gains on your farm is,

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 2>you're in all sorts of trouble.

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Rita.

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 3>But I think that's part of the point. I think

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 3>they want people to sell down their acid bases. But

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 3>on a different issue, the World Health Organization's Global Pandemic Agreement,

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Australia has now signed up to that.

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 8>Again another big.

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 7>Issue that we did not even hear from the.

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Coalition really throughout the election campaign, and of course we

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 3>knew if Labour one they were going to sign us

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 3>up to this madness. What's that going to mean for

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 3>the country potentially, Well.

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 12>Look, it still ultimately comes down to the sovereignty of

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 12>every government. This agreement doesn't, I know, those different views

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 12>of it doesn't make a government do stuff. But the

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:37.479
<v Speaker 12>concern I've got is will be an excuse for governments

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 12>to do things that they want to do anyway. And

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 12>so what we really need now is make sure we've

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 12>got the parliamentary accountability in place to stop these kind

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 12>of things happening or highlight them happen before they happen,

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 12>unlike we had last time. That will be very difficult

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 12>in the current parliament because even in the Senate you've

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 12>got a laboring majority. But look, well that's what we've

0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 12>got to do. That's got to earn my money as

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 12>a cenator still vehicles to do that, and I'll be

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 12>taking up that fight. I was going to say earlier

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 12>before you know, the lack of telecommunication services in the

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 12>Bush cut me off, and that's what we're fighting for them.

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 12>I was going to say earlier that you know, there's

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 12>all this there's all this controversy about oh if we

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 12>don't have a shadow ministry in place, and that we

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 12>can't hold the governmental account. Well, last year in the

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 12>UK they didn't have a shadow ministry for four months.

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 12>In the parliament sat for more than thirty days without

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 12>a shadow ministry and guess what that coincided with the

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 12>biggest drop in popular support for a newly elected government

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.719
<v Speaker 12>in history. So you can hold a governor account through

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 12>the parliament because guess what, you don't have to be

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 12>a shadow minister to ask questions as a senator. You

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 12>don't have to be a shadow minister to go into

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 12>cenate estimates and put the heat on government officials that

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 12>might be trying to sneak stuff like this through without

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 12>proper scrutiny. And so I would ask respect my colleagues

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 12>to worry a little bit less about what position they're

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 12>in and focus more on the position they've already got

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 12>as a member of the Parliament. And your first job

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 12>as that as a member of that parliament is to

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 12>hold the executive to account, whatever position you're in, whatever

0:33:58.680 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 12>shadow ministry you're in.

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 2>We can do that anyway, and just very quickly, Matt,

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 2>before we go to your point about the UN and

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 2>what the UN will try and do. The World Health

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Organization is basically an arm of the UN.

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Full praise to your colleague David.

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Chris Afouli in Queensland there the premiere for standing up

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 2>to the UN.

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>But this is the point.

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 2>He had to stand up to the UN and say, no,

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 2>don't interfere with our crime legislation. I've been voted to

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 2>do this. It's none of your business. But he had

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>to stand up. We have a labor government who will

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.879
<v Speaker 2>not stand up to the World Health Organization if they

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 2>start mandating.

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>X, Y or Z or you've got to do this

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>or you've got to do that.

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 2>We've seen it before, we saw it during COVID, and

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 2>we're going to see it again. We need a strong

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 2>coalition that are prepared to stand up and say no

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to this stuff, as Chris Offulia is doing in Queensland.

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Just very briefly, Matt, Well.

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 12>We need we need outsiders. We need people on the

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 12>outside holding the insiders to account. And so I am

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 12>proudly staying a member of the outsiders, being a leader

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 12>of the National's Party, and look forward to continuing the

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<v Speaker 12>conversation the next few years.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic Matt, had a great day there up in Rockhampton.

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Great to have Matt Canavan on the show as always.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Yes and this week we saw Victorian farmers and

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 3>CFE volunteers descend on the steps of Parliament to protest

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:24.280
<v Speaker 3>another crippling tax imposed by the dangerously inep state labor

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 3>government that could bankrupt farmers, some of them already struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they one of the worst droughts experienced in more

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<v Speaker 3>than one hundred years It was.

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<v Speaker 17>A peak hour pilgrimage from all corners of the state

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<v Speaker 17>and through city traffic to give the premier a serve.

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<v Speaker 17>Will you pay the bill?

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<v Speaker 6>No, we won't pay the bill.

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<v Speaker 10>Want concerns.

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<v Speaker 17>The five billion dollar expanded Fire Services property levy is

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<v Speaker 17>an unfair burden on those who volunteer on the front

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 17>line where drunk help O we help and grow Victoria's food.

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<v Speaker 18>Wasted money down here in the country just doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 7>You see.

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<v Speaker 3>The Jacinta Alan government is replacing the fire services levy

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<v Speaker 3>with a new expanded tax called the Emergency Services and

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Volunteers Fund. Only problem is the amount households and landholders

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<v Speaker 3>have to pay each year will almost double. Yes, just

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<v Speaker 3>a casual increase of one hundred and eighty nine percent,

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<v Speaker 3>which for some farmers will mean tens of thousands of

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:33.359
<v Speaker 3>dollars they'll have to find each and every year. And

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 3>right now we have farmers in Victoria killing tens of

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 3>thousands of perfectly healthy dairy cows because they can't afford to.

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<v Speaker 7>Feed them or water them anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Livestock agents tell their herald son the situation is so

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 3>grim that avatars across the state are battling to keep

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 3>up with a demand to slaughter dairy cows, with thousands

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 3>being culled each day as the cost of hay reaches

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 3>new highs, jumping another one hundred dollars a tent in

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 3>the last week alone. Imagine what that's going to do

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 3>to dairy prices down the track. That's what Victorian farmers,

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 3>many of them also CFA volunteers, are dealing with and

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 3>that's why they gathered in Melbourne to protest. Peter Creedlind

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 3>was there to hear their stories.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a discussing money grade and it's just a

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>completely unfair on farmers be expected to pay ridiculous overspending

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<v Speaker 1>within the city.

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<v Speaker 19>Government and destroyer burn us and where all volunteers and

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 19>we spend hours and hours out on the fly ground.

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<v Speaker 20>This tax is, as we all know, it's just another

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 20>text to fill holes in the labor government's economy.

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<v Speaker 21>Police spend our Christmas and our New Years and everything

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<v Speaker 21>on the fire jug What were you doing to Cinta?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you sitting at home with your family? Will we

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 5>burn now?

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to get some idea of the disdain

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 3>the Allen government has for regional communities, and look at

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.760
<v Speaker 3>the hysterical overreaction of the Premiere to a little stunt

0:37:56.920 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 3>by farmer who delivered a small, carefully wrapped box of

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 3>cow mineure to her office.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 8>She seemed far more upset.

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 3>About that than the very real hardship the drought and

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 3>her government's greed and ineptitude is causing all.

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:13.879
<v Speaker 8>Justin to seem to care about this week?

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Is that little box of cowpoop, complete with a note saying,

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 3>dearest Jacina, I've considered ju Levy and here's my feedback.

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.760
<v Speaker 8>It's bull dust, love Brutus and family.

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 3>That this was delivered with the help of Liberal MPs

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Bev MacArthur and Nicole Nicole Werner, who escorted the gift

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 3>bearing farmer to just into Allan's office. Premier Allen saw

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 3>that as the ideal opportunity to play the victim, calling

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:44.760
<v Speaker 3>the disgraceful and even claiming her office's workplace safety was compromised.

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 22>A couple of Liberal politicians acted in a disgraceful inappropriate

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 22>way in a workplace, in the parliamentary workplace.

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 8>And she wasn't done yet.

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 3>The tantrum can She called on the Opposition leader Brad

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Batton to also contemn, condemn, his MPs.

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 22>I condemn that behavior. You know who hasn't condemned that behavior.

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 22>The leader of the opposition, Brad Batton, hasn't condemned that behavior.

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 22>Not call on him to either condemn this behavior or

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 22>is he going to back his backers who did this

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 22>disgraceful act.

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, bad Lucture Center, it seems you're not going to

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 3>have Dan Andrew's good fortune. It appears the vic Libs

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 3>have moved on from the days of John Pursudo, who

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 3>attacked his own MPs for fighting the good fight. Instead

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 3>of condemning his MPs, Brad Batton back them for standing

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 3>up for sair fe volunteers and farming communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, it's not something I would have done.

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 19>But what I do know is yesterday people were very,

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 19>very angry when it comes to the new taxes that

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:53.240
<v Speaker 19>are impacting on farms across Victoria. There is a reason

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 19>that thousands of farmers came from all over Victoria with

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 19>their fire trucks, with their uniforms to explain to the

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 19>Vitorian government that they are fed up with being the

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 19>feeding cow for this government's budget.

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<v Speaker 3>What a refreshing change from the quizzling antics of John pursuito,

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 3>who likely would have moved to censure or expel the

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 3>female MPs, perhaps after accusing them of associating with people

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 3>who may have associated with others who once shared a

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 3>platform with someone undesirable. But while brad Batten stuck fat,

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Shadow Treasurer James Newbery, the Member for Brighton who lunches

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 3>with Simon.

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 7>Holmes a court, was all too eager to turn.

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 3>His sights on his liberal colleagues rather than maintain pressure

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 3>on the premiere, saying.

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 10>It's always important to be.

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:45.959
<v Speaker 3>Respectful in your debate, and what happened was inappropriate. There's

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 3>nothing respectful about abandoning farmers under immense financial pressure who

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:53.399
<v Speaker 3>can't even afford to feed or water their animals. There's

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 3>nothing respectful about the pitiful relief package offered by the

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Allen government that is entirely in adequate.

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 10>It's an insult.

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 3>And there is nothing respectful about the economic vandalism that

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 3>has seen Victoria record the biggest debt in the country,

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 3>with an annual interest build that is set to pass

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 3>ten billion.

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 10>That's just the interest.

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:15.760
<v Speaker 3>If you want to know how to hold the labor

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 3>government accountable, then perhaps take a page out of Beckabev

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 3>MacArthur's book, who had this to say about the cow

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 3>manure stunt. She said, Labor MPs are acting like they've

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 3>never seen cowshit before.

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 8>Maybe they don't.

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Get out of Melbourne much if they are genuinely more

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 3>upset about a pile of manure than the total mess

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 3>they've made of their budget. And this state, it's no

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 3>wonder Victoria's going broke.

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 8>That's how it's done.

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 3>And this weekend there's been a major development with this saga,

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 3>with the Sunday Herald Sun reporting that regional councils are

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 3>declaring war on the Allen government over this controversial issue.

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 3>This volunteer levy calling for the immediate cease of introduction

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 3>as communities deal with the going drought. It's time that

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:05.800
<v Speaker 3>every liberal MP learned that you are elected to hold

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 3>labor accountable, not to engage in stupid factional games and

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 3>undermine your colleagues who are doing a better job than you.

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic Greta.

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<v Speaker 2>After the break, we've got net Zany, we've got lefty lunacy, wakademia.

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 2>All here on outside is back in a tick. You're

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:29.759
<v Speaker 2>watching outsiders, and thank you so much for watching us.

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Every Sunday morning. We certainly do appreciate your company. Well,

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 2>net Zany is the wacky, weird world of net zero policies.

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 2>We were just talking to those about those policies with

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Matt Canavan over in America. Donald Trump has slammed Kirs Starmer's.

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Net zero policies.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've seen that he's attacked that in as Matt

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 2>himself just said, in New Zealand, they've abandoned Jacinda r

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Dern's net zero policy. So all around the world they

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 2>are abanding net as we call it.

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<v Speaker 5>James, well, yeah, and I mean this is so crucial

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 5>because around the world. You know, Trump attacked, as you say,

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 5>Starmer for all of the wind from said you should

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 5>get drilling in the North Sea. Absolutely right. But also

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 5>you know the UK has been going help for leather

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 5>on nuclear the last week. We've seen other countries in

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 5>Europe say, you know what, we're going to lift our

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.399
<v Speaker 5>nuclear bands, We're going to go on nuclear, gonna start

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 5>doing nuclear again, We're going to restart our nuclear plants.

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 5>The Biden administration, you know, Democrats on the left had

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 5>a big push for nuclear and you'll remember that they

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 5>went to that big meeting in Dubai and all signed

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 5>on to that big global nuclear agreement. Now, this idea

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 5>that the laws of physics somehow don't apply here in Australia,

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 5>which is basically what labor and you know, a lot

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 5>of the moderate wing of the of the Liberal Party,

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 5>which are heavily invested personally in renewables, like to say

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 5>is an absolute nonsense. And I'll tell you something. I've

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 5>been thinking so much about this because I've been traveling

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:53.839
<v Speaker 5>the last week, as you know, I wasn't here last week,

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 5>and you know, I started to say this before we're

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.959
<v Speaker 5>about to embark on this whole new revolution of AI.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 5>And I've spoken to a lot of people in the business,

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, the last couple of weeks, and they have

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:06.840
<v Speaker 5>all said to me, this is a big industrial project

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 5>as much as it is a high tech project. You

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:13.439
<v Speaker 5>need big turbine spinning inertial power. That's what you get

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 5>from gas, That's what you get coal, that's we get

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 5>from nuclear. You do not get that, despite what Mike

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:22.280
<v Speaker 5>cannon Brooks said the other day, from batteries and solar

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 5>and how we saw what happened in Spain the other day.

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 5>We're still waiting for the official report, but we know

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 5>how much reliance they have on that. And the thing

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.839
<v Speaker 5>that occurs to me is we have de industrialized as

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 5>a country in a shocking way. The other night, I

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 5>was in Tokyo and I was at the airport bar

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 5>having a drink, and across the airport in Tokyo you

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:44.360
<v Speaker 5>can see the flames of a refinery going. Japan is

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 5>a serious industrialized nation. We are not a serious industrialized nation.

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 5>Or we don't refine our own petrol, we don't make

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 5>our own fertilizer for our farms anymore. We don't do

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 5>any of these things that we need to. And it's

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 5>a national security issue, it's an economic iss You, Greg

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:02.800
<v Speaker 5>Sheridan had a ray wed nation in decline if we

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 5>don't fix this, but look at what the rest of

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 5>the world is doing. Why are we somehow special that

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 5>we're immune to the laws of physics and economics?

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Easy?

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 5>He thinks that we can just get this done.

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 3>This is why we've had the biggest fall in living

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 3>standards in the developed world.

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 7>We're not immune.

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 3>And you said we're not a serious industrial nation. Right now,

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 3>We're not a serious nation. We are just defying reality.

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 3>And Trump's not only turbocharging drilling. He is actually also

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 3>turbocharging nuclear energy. He has just signed in several executive

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 3>orders in that direction. He wants to get rid of

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 3>the over regulation.

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Baby fishing because, as James.

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Said, he understands the future of AI and that you

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 3>need power. And to give the Democrats some credit, a

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:56.879
<v Speaker 3>lot of this stuff is backed by the Democrats when

0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 3>it comes to nuclear energy because they also understand and

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Obama was enormous and fracking. He was also interested in

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 3>getting America to be energy independent. But here in Australia,

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 3>we're still clinging on to this fantasy that.

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 10>Renewables are the cheapest form of energy.

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 3>It's a laughable Have a look at your bill if

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 3>you think that's true.

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 8>And we are pursuing that.

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 3>And when you've got an opposition who is not clear

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 3>in their position, who are half pregnant with signing up

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 3>to net zero, well it's no wonder the people of.

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 2>The reality reader is that this country is cursed by

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of grifters, renewables grifters who are milking the system,

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 2>routing the system, making themselves very wealthy at your expense.

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Just as Reta says, check your electricity.

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Bills, plus all the subsidies that your taxes go through.

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Rather than doing sensible things around the country, these grifters

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 2>have completely corrupted our political system, which is why the

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Nats and the liberal part than the coalition are struggling.

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Do we go net do we not?

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Because they are at the beck and call of these

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 2>very same drift is an absolute national disgrace, and we

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 2>were all paying through the teeth and raiders one hundred

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.760
<v Speaker 2>percent correct. We are not a serious nation any longer,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna find out very soon just how unserious

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<v Speaker 2>we are.

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<v Speaker 5>James, Well, exactly right, and you know it is. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to like harp on about it. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to scare people. It's a national security issue.

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<v Speaker 12>Rights.

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<v Speaker 1>If what's happening in.

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<v Speaker 5>The Pacific, look at what China is planning, Look at Taiwan,

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 5>look at what's happening in the Pacific. How everything is

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 5>pivoting towards a big conflict in the Pacific. If we

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 5>get cut off and we don't have fertilizer, if we

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:38.880
<v Speaker 5>don't have fuel, you know, if they cut our cables,

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 5>we know what all of those missions to circumnavigate and

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 5>chart all of the undersea cables and everything around Australia

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 5>that connects us to the world was all about we

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 5>could be toasted in thirty days or less and the

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:53.359
<v Speaker 5>idea that China has just make us surrender and bend

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 5>to their will without firing a shot. And at the

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 5>moment Ethnelbneasy Labor and a lot of liberal moderates are

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 5>delivering the country to our enemies on a silver platter.

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<v Speaker 5>If we do not do something to turn this around.

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<v Speaker 5>It's really urgent. It's you know, people keep saying, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it's like the nineteen thirties in Europe. Well, hey,

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 5>it's like the nineteen thirties here too.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, when here we have the unseerious gnats on Insiders.

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 1>That's the other show that some people watch on the ABC.

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, but anyway they do. Here he

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.240
<v Speaker 2>was speaking this morning whether to net zero.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is the national's position now on net zero?

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<v Speaker 8>The national support net zero twenty fifteen?

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<v Speaker 12>Has that been settled?

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 8>Well that was settled years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great, well you're going to stay out of government

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 2>if that's what you think.

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Seriously, you're absolute clowns.

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 2>The Dutch have postponed buying an auction of offshore wind farms.

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Can't think why no interest?

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Apparently nobody turned up to the auction jones, But there

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<v Speaker 2>you go. Anyway, let's on a lighter note, let's have

0:48:57.880 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 2>some wacademia.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, actually, not that much lighter.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, anyway, controversial academic Randa abdel Fatar is offering free

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>classes on Palestine to schools. Oh no, well, if I

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.799
<v Speaker 2>at any of these schools, that kid would be out

0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 2>of that school pronto. If whatever her name is, abdel

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<v Speaker 2>Fatar turns up lecturing about Palestine, seriously, the corruption of

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:24.360
<v Speaker 2>our education system retail.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, she says it's free, and it probably would

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<v Speaker 3>be free for the school. But let's not forget that

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 3>this is a tax pay funded academic, so our taxes

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 3>pay for her work or research, her activism. And yeah,

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 3>I've got an inkling that these classes may not be

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<v Speaker 3>entirely fair.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm byring.

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<v Speaker 5>Point here. There's another point here, hen You know, I

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<v Speaker 5>do want to talk about this too, because this is

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 5>something we always talk about on this program. And I've

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:51.400
<v Speaker 5>got a lot of friends who say, oh, you know,

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 5>you just got to give up the culture wars, start

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:57.399
<v Speaker 5>fighting the culture wars. This is a very important cultur

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:01.720
<v Speaker 5>war here, sure, because if the right see the culture wars,

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:04.760
<v Speaker 5>everything the culture war that you know, your kids grow

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:07.919
<v Speaker 5>up coming home and chanting free, free Palestine. And we're

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 5>talking about the really deadly ways that that winds up

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 5>a little bit later in the program. This is the

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:15.919
<v Speaker 5>sort of stuff that absolutely needs to be kept out

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.240
<v Speaker 5>of the schools. Teach both sides, teach a fair present,

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 5>to teach real history, and don't teach this well.

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Sydney UNI has been slammed over it came up with

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:29.880
<v Speaker 2>a plan to segregate Jewish students during Palestine prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where this goes rita.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't fight the culture wars, you end up

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 2>with this nonsense.

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.800
<v Speaker 3>Everything we've been talking about, even when you're talking about

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 3>something as dry as energy policy, economic policy, it's.

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 8>Roots of the culture wars.

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 3>The reason why you've got people who are so ideologically

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 3>driven on these. Of course, there's the grifters who are

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:52.840
<v Speaker 3>invested in renewables, so thinking with their hip pocket, but

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 3>the rest of them it's become like a religion, yes,

0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 3>and that's part of the culture wars.

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:00.360
<v Speaker 8>And the left just get the church, the left of

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 8>the culture.

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:03.399
<v Speaker 10>Wars is why we're in this mess.

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<v Speaker 3>So conservatives going to either start realizing this is the

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:07.680
<v Speaker 3>reality and fighting.

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 10>Back, or we're going to be in this position.

0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:13.839
<v Speaker 3>And when you've got Jewish students being segregated for their

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:16.799
<v Speaker 3>own safety in twenty twenty five, it just tells you

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:17.720
<v Speaker 3>how far we're falling.

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 2>And Donald Trump has attacked the anti senitism that we

0:51:20.760 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 2>saw at the outbreak in the universities in the last

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 2>American summer. He's now turned around and he's literally stopping

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Harvard from having overseas students as a punishment for them

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 2>not tackling the anti Semitism.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a big story there in America, but at.

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Least Trump does something about it, unlike anyone in Australia.

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:42.280
<v Speaker 5>Very quickly.

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris is doing we've told you about here on

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 2>the show. She's doing her speech up in the Gold

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Coast today. Kamala Harris will be lecturing them on being

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 2>unburdened in your real estate ventures by what you're not

0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 2>burdened by or whatever.

0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I cannot wait to see what word salads she is

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:02.839
<v Speaker 3>going to be done.

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Someone's filmed that iPhone.

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:07.360
<v Speaker 3>You know what you real estate agents who are on

0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 3>this junkerd who are probably out just in out the

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 3>strip clubs getting drunk every night.

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<v Speaker 10>Please one of you record.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to see it. It's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>space back in a tick on Outsiders.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe not record strip puffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, you're watching Outsiders with the Rita Panahee with James Morrow.

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 1>And myself Ruindie.

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<v Speaker 2>South Africa's bars settled in that land as long ago

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<v Speaker 2>as the mid sixteen hundreds. Those farmers have farmed that

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<v Speaker 2>land for centuries, and their produce feeds the nation. Literally,

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>on average, ninety percent of farm produce in South Africa

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 2>comes from those white farms. Now, those same farmers, the

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 2>descendants of the original boast settlers, are being forced out

0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:03.320
<v Speaker 2>by a combination of violence, rape, murder, corrupt police forces,

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:07.800
<v Speaker 2>armed gangs, and the deeply sinister government policy of enforced

0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 2>land acquisition without in many instances, any.

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Form of compensation.

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<v Speaker 2>Six years ago, Katie Hopkins made a documentary called plus

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<v Speaker 2>more The Killing Fields.

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<v Speaker 11>If you don't do what do we are getting you

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<v Speaker 11>to do?

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 23>Or when ever your wife in front of you and

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 23>kid and everything generally the one.

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:43.239
<v Speaker 7>My husband was murdered in what they classify as a

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 7>farm attack and they shut them in the head in

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.400
<v Speaker 7>front of us. Can you found at my feet?

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<v Speaker 24>But in the last year there were roughly eighty four

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:56.399
<v Speaker 24>farm murders.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, six years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Those unspeakable acts were South Africa's dark secret.

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 1>But not to viewers of this show, I might add.

0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 2>We have been reporting on this consistently over the years,

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 2>but certainly a secret to most of the world.

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 18>The ground started eating me and said today we're going

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 18>to killue living word boss.

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:35.240
<v Speaker 2>But the dirty secret is out in the open now

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:38.000
<v Speaker 2>thanks to the most extraordinary political figure in the world

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 2>and indeed of the last half century, Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 11>But we have no noquet. We have thousands of stories

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:49.279
<v Speaker 11>talking about it.

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 25>Sure, we have documentaries, we have news stories, and there

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 25>is Natalie here, somebody here to turn that.

0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:00.399
<v Speaker 11>I could show you a couple of things, and I would,

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<v Speaker 11>I just I have to. It has to be responded to. Sure,

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.239
<v Speaker 11>let me see the article splits over.

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<v Speaker 25>You would and excuse me, turn the lights down, turn

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:13.400
<v Speaker 25>the lights down and just put this on.

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<v Speaker 11>It's right behind you, John.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a disparliament.

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<v Speaker 18>Do we thought you people not went to Occupiland with

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<v Speaker 18>permission from you, from the president, from nor what.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't care.

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<v Speaker 11>We can do what we want to do. Who want

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 11>to tell us? We occupilant That's who we are.

0:55:41.400 --> 0:55:43.879
<v Speaker 2>By the way, one of those articles that were held

0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 2>up by Donald Trump was written by our.

0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Very own reason Panay, which we're very proud of.

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 2>The leftist media called it an ambush and started banging

0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 2>on about how the field of crosses that Trump showed

0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 2>were representations of the dead farmers as opposed to an

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 2>actual grave yard.

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, that was kind of obvious.

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 2>As usual, the left dissembled and obfuscated to attempt to

0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:09.000
<v Speaker 2>deny the significance of the crimes that have been and

0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:12.799
<v Speaker 2>are still being committed. But it was the footage of

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:17.280
<v Speaker 2>the repulsive hard left politician Julius Malima, who for years

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:20.520
<v Speaker 2>has packed out South African stadiums with his vile chance

0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 2>to kill the boar, shoot to kill, kill the farmer.

0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:27.680
<v Speaker 2>But saw the South African delegation most iletes squirming in

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:31.080
<v Speaker 2>their seats refusing to watch this footage.

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:35.200
<v Speaker 8>Pity Kitty Kitty.

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 26>B Shira conto las shoot booti comosa pu the pooor

0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:49.040
<v Speaker 26>theba bull, the poor.

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:50.640
<v Speaker 11>The burma.

0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:57.719
<v Speaker 5>Pa pa boo pa.

0:56:57.560 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Pa Yes, fact innocent care and of course there was this.

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<v Speaker 18>So these people, when you want to eat them hard,

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:23.160
<v Speaker 18>go after a white man, they feel a terrible pain.

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 1>And this in parliament.

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<v Speaker 18>There's nothing you can do. There's nothing this parliament can

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 18>do with.

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 5>Or without you.

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:46.880
<v Speaker 18>People are going to occupy land will require no permission

0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:51.640
<v Speaker 18>from you, from the President, from no one. We don't care.

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 18>We can do whatever you want to do. Who are

0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:56.040
<v Speaker 18>you to tell us whether we can occupy lent or not.

0:57:56.480 --> 0:58:01.440
<v Speaker 18>Must never be scared to kill. At some point that

0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 18>must be killing. So to two your maasa to the poor.

0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Trump was rightly appalled that Malayma is allowed to get

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 2>away with this.

0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:18.520
<v Speaker 11>Why wouldn't you arrest that man? That man said kill

0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 11>the white farmers, kill the.

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:23.520
<v Speaker 25>White farmers, and then he danced, and he's dancing, dancing

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:25.400
<v Speaker 25>and has killed the white farmers.

0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 11>Think I'm not sure, but I think if.

0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:31.120
<v Speaker 25>Somebody got up in Barrolment and sort of saying kill

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:34.960
<v Speaker 25>a certain group of people that he would be in

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:38.959
<v Speaker 25>he would be arrested very quickly. That man is going

0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:42.240
<v Speaker 25>all over South Africa. And that's not a small party.

0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:45.440
<v Speaker 25>That was a stadium that holds one hundred thousand people,

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 25>and I hardly.

0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 11>Saw an MPC.

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Trump knows the stadiums.

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Ramaposer tried to brush it all off, but the reality

0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 2>is earlier this year, Ramoposa's government introduced the controversial Expropriation

0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Act that makes allow answers for forcibly seizing land of

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 2>white farmers without necessarily paying compensation, providing a very dodgy

0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:15.040
<v Speaker 2>legal framework to cover these atrocities. And Ramoposa has form here.

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:18.440
<v Speaker 2>He is mocking white people for being cowards and calling

0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:21.880
<v Speaker 2>their claims fictitious, and trying to cover it all up

0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:25.720
<v Speaker 2>under the woke cloak of diversity.

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<v Speaker 27>In many many ways, and none of us ever having

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:34.360
<v Speaker 27>to want to run away to another country for fictional

0:59:34.840 --> 0:59:41.480
<v Speaker 27>reasons that we are being persecuted. We are united in diversity,

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:46.320
<v Speaker 27>and none of us should ever feel that they have

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:50.360
<v Speaker 27>lost courage, that they have now become cowards.

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Worse, here, as the repugnant Ramaposa Court essentially giving his

0:59:56.040 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 2>blessing to these obscene and vile acts, the question.

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:05.840
<v Speaker 23>Of land, the land of our fore fathers and our poor.

1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Mothers, my return to our.

1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:15.280
<v Speaker 23>People without any fail and without any payment of compensation.

1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:20.680
<v Speaker 2>And it pretty clear where does this sort of political

1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:24.400
<v Speaker 2>leadership lead to? Well Katie Hopkins, in discussing her documentary

1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:27.000
<v Speaker 2>at Prague, U is unequivocal.

1:00:27.280 --> 1:00:30.920
<v Speaker 28>White South African farmers are being hunted from their land

1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:31.920
<v Speaker 28>by black gangs.

1:00:32.280 --> 1:00:32.640
<v Speaker 7>Fact.

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<v Speaker 28>And I had a young son at the time, and

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<v Speaker 28>he would sometimes have nightmares about when the monsters would come,

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<v Speaker 28>you know, at nighttime. But in South Africa, that is

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<v Speaker 28>when the gangs come and they work together and they

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<v Speaker 28>attack white farmers. And some of the things that happen

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<v Speaker 28>to white farmers we don't need to talk about here,

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<v Speaker 28>but the barbarity. It isn't just about burglary, which it

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<v Speaker 28>gets filed away as this is torture.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump being prepared to use access to the Oval

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<v Speaker 2>Office to condemn and highlight some of the world's worst

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<v Speaker 2>governments is indeed a breath of fresh air.

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<v Speaker 11>And those people, in many cases, are being executed.

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<v Speaker 25>They're being executed, and they happen to be white, and

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<v Speaker 25>most of them happened to be farmers. And that's a

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<v Speaker 25>tough situation. I don't know how you explain that. How

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<v Speaker 25>do you explain that they're taking people's land away, and

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<v Speaker 25>in many cases those people are being executed, and.

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<v Speaker 11>In many cases it's not the government that's soon.

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<v Speaker 25>It's people kill them and then take their land and

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<v Speaker 25>nothing happens to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Ravo O'donald Trump, Needless to say, Trump's enemies, such as

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<v Speaker 2>the hugely discredited CNN, try to airbrush the South African atrocities.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you listen? Malemmo was singing kill the boar, Killed.

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<v Speaker 29>The Farmer, was an anti apartheid song from the struggle

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<v Speaker 29>against white mynority rule in South Africa. They've explained that

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<v Speaker 29>this is not a little attack called to attack and

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<v Speaker 29>kill the farmer because of the historical nature of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, literally want to kill them. We just want

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<v Speaker 1>to sing that you want to kill them? Got it?

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<v Speaker 12>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>It's an old folk song. Of course it is in desperation.

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<v Speaker 2>Sil Ramaposa turned to his white colleagues cabinet ministers to

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<v Speaker 2>disprove Trump's allegations.

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<v Speaker 23>I would say, if there was Afrikana farmer genocide, I

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<v Speaker 23>can bet you these three gentlemen would not be here,

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<v Speaker 23>including my Minister of Agriculture.

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<v Speaker 11>He would not be with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Alas, even that backfired.

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<v Speaker 30>My dad was a proper develop as well as a

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<v Speaker 30>part time farmer. And yeah, some of these buddy farmers

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<v Speaker 30>got killed. The farm is still going. My brother's running,

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<v Speaker 30>but that's a constant battle of farms trying to get him.

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<v Speaker 30>They're trying to burn the farms down to chase you away.

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<v Speaker 2>The reality is that the dream of a free and

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<v Speaker 2>prosperous South Africa that so many well meaning people in

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<v Speaker 2>the West fought so hard for. A good friend of

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<v Speaker 2>mine from Finland spent time in a South African jail

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<v Speaker 2>for his efforts in protesting against apartheid. The dream of

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<v Speaker 2>a bright future for all South Africans has been destroyed

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<v Speaker 2>by crime, by Neo Marxism, by racism, and by the

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<v Speaker 2>hard left stoking the fires of racial division. Here is

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<v Speaker 2>the Quasuli Netal Police Commissioner Mkwanazi speaking about the South

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<v Speaker 2>African crime statistics by race.

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<v Speaker 1>Not me talking.

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<v Speaker 31>These are the stats. We have a problem with the

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<v Speaker 31>black men in South Africa. We have a serous problem.

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<v Speaker 31>What we see we put the cars, the races of

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<v Speaker 31>pipe trizos arrested. Out of this number, seven thousand, six

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<v Speaker 31>hundred to ninety one of them were black meat. Out

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<v Speaker 31>of sixty thousand, fifty seven thousand of them are black men.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an absolute tragedy.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, what I said earlier, was that

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<v Speaker 2>actually one of the golfers who was with Trump, who

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about his experiences in a farm, not a

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<v Speaker 2>cabinet person. This is an absolute tragedy and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>complete betrayal of what so many people around the world

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<v Speaker 2>fought and in South Africa fought for and dreamed of

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<v Speaker 2>and hoped for and died for. You know, I like

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<v Speaker 2>my visual metaphors, So here's one. Here's downtown Durban today.

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<v Speaker 2>The magnificent dream of Nelson Mandela has been turned to.

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<v Speaker 32>Rubble and to trash.

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<v Speaker 1>For once, you can't just blame the whites.

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<v Speaker 2>Still, Let's leave the final word as I like to

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<v Speaker 2>to those creative kids.

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<v Speaker 32>Out on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside now a very special guest here on Outsiders. As

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on Outsiders, we always pride ourselves on supporting

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<v Speaker 2>the outsiders, supporting those people, particularly small business people, who

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<v Speaker 2>are prepared to stand up against the insanity of the

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<v Speaker 2>red green, black tape that's strangling enterprise in our nation

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<v Speaker 2>and particularly in our cities, and particularly if you live

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<v Speaker 2>in Sydney. You have seen, however, the last few years,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's both liberal and labor governments that have been responsible.

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<v Speaker 2>The life has been strangled out of Sydney nightlife. What

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<v Speaker 2>was once twenty thirty years ago one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>vibrant cities and exciting cities in the world is now

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<v Speaker 2>sadly anything. But one person who was brave enough this

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<v Speaker 2>week to speak up against the green tape and the

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<v Speaker 2>madness and the authorities was the restauranteur from Lady Chew

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<v Speaker 2>in Pott's Point.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is Naji Chew.

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<v Speaker 2>She had a little She's going to join us in

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<v Speaker 2>a second, but I'm just going to show you a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of the clip that she posted on social media

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<v Speaker 2>when the authorities turned up and tried to get her

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<v Speaker 2>to remove some pot plants which he put out to

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<v Speaker 2>make her outdoor scene of her restaurant nice and more

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<v Speaker 2>pleasant for the people there. Oh no, the authorities wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a bar of it. He doesn't have a Look

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<v Speaker 2>at the bit of the footage here, I'm.

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<v Speaker 33>Shut it down.

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<v Speaker 34>I want what's the problem here?

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<v Speaker 1>You can get through what seems to be.

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<v Speaker 34>The problem of a sudden beautiful trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm delighted to say that Nichi Chu joins us now. Nigee,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks so much for coming on Outsiders, and thank you

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of all Sydney siders and people who come

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<v Speaker 2>to Sydney who are so fed up we're not being

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<v Speaker 2>able to dine late into the evening, sit outside on

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<v Speaker 2>the pavement. You stood up against the madness of the authorities.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us about it and tell us how it's going, Nagie.

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<v Speaker 34>Okay, Look so all this week Clovermore said you attacked

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<v Speaker 34>and you were quite vile towards the rangers. Now, when

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<v Speaker 34>they turned up before I started filming, I did say

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<v Speaker 34>to them, are you kidding me? It is Friday night

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<v Speaker 34>and it's seven pm and we are full. Would you

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<v Speaker 34>mind please coming back when it's not so busy make

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<v Speaker 34>an appointment? And they said, how do we do that? Well,

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<v Speaker 34>it's pretty easy, speak to anyone of my staff, make

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<v Speaker 34>an appointment, come back when it's not so busy. No,

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<v Speaker 34>they did not, and they would not budge. Eight minutes

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<v Speaker 34>later they came back and said, look, we just want

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<v Speaker 34>to have a chat with you, and I said, have

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<v Speaker 34>a chat. I can't have a chat at the moment.

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<v Speaker 34>I'm a very busy member of this restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>It won't take long.

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<v Speaker 34>Can we please have a chat with you? Which is

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<v Speaker 34>when I said, excuse me. Do not speak to me

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<v Speaker 34>like I'm a naughty school kid like this seculation.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just so rude.

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<v Speaker 34>So they wouldn't leave. So that's was when I said

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<v Speaker 34>to my staff, turn the camera on. This is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 34>Then they said, we declined to be interviewed, and I said,

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<v Speaker 34>I'm actually really sorry, but I declined your decline to

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<v Speaker 34>be interviewed because I had and I'm really pissed off

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<v Speaker 34>that you won't leave me alone. So what seems to

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<v Speaker 34>be the problem. So when they said, look, it's about

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<v Speaker 34>the plants, I mean, seriously, how can you remain calm

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<v Speaker 34>when two council offices come on a busy night and

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<v Speaker 34>say to you it's about the plants.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 34>At which point you saw the rest? I videoed it,

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<v Speaker 34>I posted it, and I at the council The rest

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<v Speaker 34>is history, and I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 2>And Naji, that was a very colorful French expression you

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<v Speaker 2>used in there to describe your outrage, which we understand

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<v Speaker 2>your outrage.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, but we won't use it again.

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<v Speaker 2>We won't use it again, but we understand exactly where

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<v Speaker 2>you're coming from, James, Naji.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, look good on you for doing what you're

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<v Speaker 5>doing here. But like for everybody in Australia who might

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<v Speaker 5>not be familiar with this Parts Point, is this really dense,

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<v Speaker 5>should be really vibrant top spot for dieting and partying

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<v Speaker 5>and fun in Sydney. Apparently these are like anonymous complaints

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<v Speaker 5>that have been put into the council. Do you even

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<v Speaker 5>believe that these complaints exist? Why are people living in

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<v Speaker 5>Parts Point if they don't want to live around you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the vibrancy and fun of a place like Passpoint with

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<v Speaker 5>all of its restaurants and eateries and fun things to do.

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<v Speaker 34>What I would like to do once and for all

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<v Speaker 34>is to try to change the law reform. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 34>if you're fineless enough to complain, that should be made illegal.

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<v Speaker 34>If you have a complaint, you should be on public record.

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<v Speaker 34>I understand that initially public anonymity was to protect the

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<v Speaker 34>whistle blower, but it's actually gone the other way. It

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<v Speaker 34>has actually closed the city down. So if we can

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<v Speaker 34>just say, look, if you have a complaint, it should

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<v Speaker 34>be illegal that it's anonymous. Okay, you're on public record,

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<v Speaker 34>and we need to know why. Why you have a complaint,

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<v Speaker 34>is it legitimate? Where do you live and why are

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<v Speaker 34>you're complaining, and how does that actually affect you? Because

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<v Speaker 34>it actually your complaint affects way more people then it

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<v Speaker 34>does affect that one person or a very there is

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<v Speaker 34>small minority.

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<v Speaker 2>And Nargie, can I just ask you how much green tape,

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<v Speaker 2>red tape, whatever council tape regulations, restrictions form filling, how

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<v Speaker 2>much go ahead.

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<v Speaker 34>If you had to join the red tape and it

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<v Speaker 34>go all the way down to America where Trump would

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<v Speaker 34>be like strangled by it.

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<v Speaker 2>So how much of your time and how much of

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<v Speaker 2>an impact does this have on business? On starting up

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<v Speaker 2>a business? You've been in the business a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>how much has it changed over the years? Nagi, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I lost miss.

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<v Speaker 34>Too, But it's not about mystery right now. It's about ladyship. Okay,

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<v Speaker 34>So I activate this dead grovel of a street filled

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<v Speaker 34>with experiment. I'm a kid, you not, I'm not. Even

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<v Speaker 34>any Potspoint local will tell you she's actually playing this down.

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<v Speaker 34>Homeless people on the streets all matter of experiment. Now,

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<v Speaker 34>I took this over during COVID, gave it a good go,

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<v Speaker 34>and it has been growing incrementally. Now it's a buzz

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<v Speaker 34>with people. Okay, it's very activated.

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<v Speaker 10>Slightly.

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<v Speaker 34>It's what it should be and used to be. And

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<v Speaker 34>so people are saying I can't get through, Well that's

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<v Speaker 34>fine because you don't really need two meters, which is

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<v Speaker 34>what the council says for a wheelchair to get through.

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<v Speaker 34>We are not fat Americans, sorry Trump, but we will

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<v Speaker 34>to be perfectly sensible. You only need one point five

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<v Speaker 34>meters for a wheelchair to get through. You can do

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<v Speaker 34>a wheely on one.

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<v Speaker 8>You can do a.

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<v Speaker 34>Whely even with one meter. But the council keeps enforcing

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<v Speaker 34>this two meter rule and it's actually very inconsistent with

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<v Speaker 34>what's going around in the city. So if you walk

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<v Speaker 34>down seven oh one George Street, for example, very very busy,

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<v Speaker 34>it's completely inconsistent. Wheelchairs cannot get through down this area

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<v Speaker 34>that the City of Sydney actually activated. Okay, so it's

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<v Speaker 34>completely planned dest signed down there. If you may, you know,

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<v Speaker 34>like they use the word clandest staining on me, I'll

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<v Speaker 34>say it. Wheelchair mobility is completely awful down on Short

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<v Speaker 34>Street where Clover decided to make into a now dead zone.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you so much, Naji, thanks for speaking to us,

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to support Najie and turn up

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<v Speaker 2>to her restaurant lady too. That's Pot's points. Naji is

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<v Speaker 2>fighting for outsiders who don't want these insane restrictions style.

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<v Speaker 2>She's very sol Thank you so much, Naji, thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>coming on and.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with your restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>And to viewers, Naji did use a couple of expletives there.

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<v Speaker 2>She clearly feels passionate about this issue and she works

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly hard, as do all our small business people. So

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<v Speaker 2>I have a couple of words slipped through that were slightly

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<v Speaker 2>offensive to our ears.

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<v Speaker 1>We do apologize for that.

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<v Speaker 2>After the break, we've got James's donkey votes so much

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<v Speaker 2>coming up here on the Outsiders, and it's it.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, you're watching Outsiders. I'm James Borrow here, joined us

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<v Speaker 5>almost always by your hosts Rowan Deed and Rita Panahe

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<v Speaker 5>and I tell you what, it really does sometimes feel

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<v Speaker 5>like a sick old world out there, particularly when you've

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<v Speaker 5>got an entire side of politics that seems to glory

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<v Speaker 5>in death and destruction so long as it's enemies on

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<v Speaker 5>the receiving end. Now, late last week in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 5>This young couple who worked at the Israeli Embassy in

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<v Speaker 5>the US Capitol were gunned down in cold blood, allegedly

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<v Speaker 5>by this man, Elias Rodriguez, a hard left radical with

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<v Speaker 5>a long history of support for communist, socialist and pro

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<v Speaker 5>Palestine causes, as they left an event at a Washington

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<v Speaker 5>Jewish museum. Tragic, horrible stuff. But hear this footage, Rodriguez,

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<v Speaker 5>who has been charged with two counts of first degree murder,

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<v Speaker 5>yells out his support for Palestine. Well, while the New

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<v Speaker 5>York Times and CNN everybody else tried to dessert a motive,

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<v Speaker 5>I think there you have it, because ever since October seventh,

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<v Speaker 5>we have seen on throlls from hard left groups, radicals

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<v Speaker 5>and chemist organizers to bring the interfada home. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 5>what they've called for, And now it seems like that

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<v Speaker 5>just may well have happened. But this case keeps getting

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<v Speaker 5>curiouser and curiouser. According to reporting by the New York Post,

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<v Speaker 5>Rodriguez's dad has close ties to the Democratic left. It

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<v Speaker 5>was even invited to Donald Trump's joint address to Congress

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<v Speaker 5>earlier this year by a far left lawmaker or very curious,

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<v Speaker 5>but not as curious as the failure of the left

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<v Speaker 5>to con rather than celebrate these killings with trolls even

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<v Speaker 5>in Australia commenting on Jewish groups posts about the murders, saying, quote,

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<v Speaker 5>good riddance, just six stuff. And of course this has

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<v Speaker 5>become a global phenomenon. I mean, just look at the

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<v Speaker 5>comments running here on this live feed of a police

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<v Speaker 5>update on the shooting, all filled with calls to again,

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<v Speaker 5>yes that idiot chant free, free Palestine, which is what

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<v Speaker 5>the alleged killer shouted, as I've played before when he

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<v Speaker 5>was taken into custody. And of course there are demands

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<v Speaker 5>as well, therefore the destruction of the Jewish state. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 5>in Washington, there was Democrat squad member Ilhan Omar who

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't even bring herself to condemn the shooting herself.

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<v Speaker 19>Congresswoman Omar, you buddy, say, can I get your reaction

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<v Speaker 19>to the shooting that happened to DC last night.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go for now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's right, She's just going to go for now.

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<v Speaker 5>What an absolutely cowardly response. Meanwhile, in Canada, Green's candidate

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<v Speaker 5>in Alberta named Jayden Baldonado appeared to celebrate the murders,

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<v Speaker 5>saying peaceful protest has failed in comparing the shooter to

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<v Speaker 5>Luigi ban Joni, who was accused of shooting dead the

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<v Speaker 5>CEO of CEO of an American health insurer on Manhattan

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<v Speaker 5>Street last year, also in Canada. This TikToker seemed to

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<v Speaker 5>revel in the deaths and hoped the shooter would be

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<v Speaker 5>taken care of in jail.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm at a bath and dusk.

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<v Speaker 5>And no, I don't think she means taking care of

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<v Speaker 5>in the sarcastic sense that you or I might think either.

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<v Speaker 5>But for on his reactions, there's no going past this

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<v Speaker 5>fellow Kai called guy Christiansen, who not only defended the

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<v Speaker 5>killings but said he was even more of a hero

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<v Speaker 5>the shooter, the elleged shooter, than Aaron Bushnell, the US

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<v Speaker 5>Air Force airman who set himself on fire in front

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<v Speaker 5>of the Israeli Embassy in Washington in protest of what

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<v Speaker 5>was going on in Gaza. Get a load of this guy.

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<v Speaker 33>I take it back. I do not condemn the elimination

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<v Speaker 33>of those two Zionist officials who worked at the Israeli

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<v Speaker 33>embassy last night. And here's why he spent his days

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<v Speaker 33>working at the Israeli embassy fighting to maintain Israel's genocide

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<v Speaker 33>and support for that genocide. In this country. He is

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<v Speaker 33>a war criminal, and the same was true for the woman.

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<v Speaker 33>This was not because they were Jewish, it was because.

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<v Speaker 1>They were Zionists.

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<v Speaker 33>And a manifesto from the suspect in custody, Elias Rodriguez,

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<v Speaker 33>who apparently, if we are to believe this is true,

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<v Speaker 33>he is part of the movement and he has consistently

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<v Speaker 33>posted about Palestine. He targeted these two because of the

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<v Speaker 33>connection to the state of Israel, because they are Zionists,

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<v Speaker 33>not because they are Jews. Now, I want to remind

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<v Speaker 33>you that while this attack took the lives of two

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<v Speaker 33>human beings, Israel has murdered thousands of Palestinian civilians in

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<v Speaker 33>cold blood without any shame. I ask you, what is

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<v Speaker 33>the difference between Elias or Jigus and Aaron Bushnell? To you,

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<v Speaker 33>perhaps the only difference I can see is that Aaron

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<v Speaker 33>Bushnell's sacrifice in flames protesting his government's role and a

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<v Speaker 33>genocide he could no longer bear to be a part of.

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<v Speaker 33>It's more palatable to this world because he did not

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<v Speaker 33>throw the final stone in his last moments at the

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<v Speaker 33>mob of criminals. Who's suffering they've brought to this world

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<v Speaker 33>is more than this world can bear any longer.

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<v Speaker 5>Nice perm kid, Hey, make of that what you will,

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<v Speaker 5>but it feels to me like we are going back

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<v Speaker 5>into the same cycle of history we saw in the

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen sixties when the left glorified Kretnis murderers from Chay

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<v Speaker 5>Grivara to Charles Manson in the name of revolution. Now

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<v Speaker 5>they're doing it again, celebrating Hamas and calling for their

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<v Speaker 5>style of nehilistic violence to be re enacted in the West. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks James.

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<v Speaker 2>That's deeply disturbing, particularly that last character, and the whole

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<v Speaker 2>story is just terrific. But this is what happens if

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<v Speaker 2>the West doesn't have the moral leadership to stand up

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<v Speaker 2>and say this stuff is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>The universities, in the streets, it is wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>This is why, you know, it's been such an absolute

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<v Speaker 5>disaster for the last almost two years.

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<v Speaker 12>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>You know that we've seen these canvas occupations, and the

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<v Speaker 5>big chat has been over and over again, bring the

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<v Speaker 5>inter fada home, bring the interfara home. That means terrorism,

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<v Speaker 5>that means murder, that means what we saw here on

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<v Speaker 5>the streets. And this is all part of that broader

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<v Speaker 5>decolonize rhetoric. You know, it's not just anti Semitism, but

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<v Speaker 5>it is anti Western decolonizing rhetoric that leads to this

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<v Speaker 5>sort of violence.

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<v Speaker 7>Well that's one of their popular chants.

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<v Speaker 3>Popular philosophy is when it comes to this issue, is

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<v Speaker 3>about globalizing the interfada, and this is what it means.

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<v Speaker 3>And even when October seven happened, there were academics in

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<v Speaker 3>the States, people often with profiles and a few of

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<v Speaker 3>work bold in saying what did you think decolonization meant?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you think it was just going to be a paper?

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<v Speaker 3>This is what decolonization is. So I think we've got

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<v Speaker 3>to realize that. And when we talk about decolonizing the

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<v Speaker 3>curriculum at different universities and their projects happening at Australian

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<v Speaker 3>universities about colonizing, we've got to see how sinister and

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<v Speaker 3>ugly it is, because it's always presented as some progressive, inclusive,

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<v Speaker 3>lovey dubb it when it is absolutely ugly and destructive.

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<v Speaker 3>And again we talk about the culture wars. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>fight the culture wars. This is what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all gent Let me just said one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I've said repeatedly, but I will keep saying it

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<v Speaker 2>that Peter Dutton's one great thing apart from winning the

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<v Speaker 2>voice of the Center and Warren was his stance on

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<v Speaker 2>opposing the whole pro Palestinian pro Hamas agenda. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the only leader we've had in this country to stand

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<v Speaker 2>up and repeatedly and forcefully call it out for the

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<v Speaker 2>evil that it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And Monsy did oppose the voice. That's his other great.

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<v Speaker 1>Achieve No, I said, as well as the voice exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean, you know, this is the thing. It's

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<v Speaker 5>the great irony is that this decolonizing rhetoric. Know, this

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<v Speaker 5>actually comes from kind of eighteen nineties blood and soil

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<v Speaker 5>nationalist rhetoric out of Germany. Like this part of the

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<v Speaker 5>philosophical roots of this this is this idea that people

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<v Speaker 5>have this sort of you know, essential tie to a

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<v Speaker 5>piece of land. That's how they get the whole thing

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<v Speaker 5>from Palestinians. But that's also where you wind up with

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of the welcome to country stuff here in

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<v Speaker 5>countries like Australia and Canada. But it ties in with

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<v Speaker 5>this really toxic thing which was a French sort of

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<v Speaker 5>movement in the fifties and sixties. France Finan the Rest

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<v Speaker 5>of the Earth, and that was a book that was

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<v Speaker 5>really influential in the Academy sixty eighty years ago. It's

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<v Speaker 5>coming back and again it was about the idea of

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<v Speaker 5>bringing revolutionary, decolonizing violences from the country where the country's

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<v Speaker 5>being colonized to the colonizing country. In that case, they

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<v Speaker 5>mean it's America, they mean Australia. This is what this

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<v Speaker 5>is all about. It's really violent, it's really sinister. It's

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<v Speaker 5>anti Semitic, but it's also deeply, deeply anti Western large.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and let's not forget that the Nazis were the

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<v Speaker 2>National Socialist Party of Germany. They were socialists. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the hard left at work. And the interesting thing James

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<v Speaker 2>and reader about what Donald Trump has been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>with South Africa. Again, it's the same thing if you

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<v Speaker 2>allow race to become the driver in your politics. The

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<v Speaker 2>brilliance of Nelson Mandela as he said, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>put all that behind us. That's it done and dusted.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all equals, and people bought into that dream. But

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<v Speaker 2>then you had all the truth telling staff all of

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff, which then went ripped the scab open again.

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<v Speaker 2>All the hatred comes out again, and we are going

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<v Speaker 2>down the same path because Albanesi and Wong will bring

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<v Speaker 2>the voice back in in some other form. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have truth telling, We're gonna have treaties, We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>all this racist garbage that labor are going to ram

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<v Speaker 2>down our throats in the coming years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we've already got eight based treaties.

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<v Speaker 10>Sadly in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 7>They're just pressing ahead with that.

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<v Speaker 3>And if they bring in a legislative voice, which is

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<v Speaker 3>what we talked about just before the election, when Penny

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<v Speaker 3>Wong let it sleep that it's just a formality, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just going to be like same sex marriage. Will

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<v Speaker 3>wonder why we ever opposed it, she opposed it. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>not forget that many of us were fairly consistent on

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<v Speaker 3>that issue.

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<v Speaker 7>And they don't have a mandate to do that because we.

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<v Speaker 3>Had a we had a referendum just eighteen months ago

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<v Speaker 3>on that very issue. But they could argue this is

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<v Speaker 3>a different thing. It's not in the constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone will say I said it before the election.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, no, I mean, but it is also I just

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<v Speaker 5>want to say too that it's really sinister, this whole

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<v Speaker 5>sort of thing. The two whisues South Africa and the

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<v Speaker 5>Israela things tied together. But also the left just really

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<v Speaker 5>is happy to glorify the deaths and the murder of

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<v Speaker 5>people that you know are in an enemy class, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's just kindest thing. That's why I mentioned Luigi

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<v Speaker 5>Joan who killed Brian Thompson, the United Healthcare ceo. That guy,

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<v Speaker 5>the alleged killer there has been celebrated as a sex symbol,

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<v Speaker 5>as a hero, and you know big, you know, got cheers.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, people mentioned him like you know, talk shows

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<v Speaker 5>and things like that. This guy, the same thing may

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<v Speaker 5>very well happen again.

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<v Speaker 11>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>This is why the left, The Daily showed it a

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<v Speaker 5>big riff on the South Africa thing where they laughed

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<v Speaker 5>at the idea haha, white farmers being killed haha, haa.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, and this is the whole idea. Well, if

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<v Speaker 5>you're a white farmer, a healthcare ceo, or a Jew

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<v Speaker 5>or Israeler THEBC, you know, you're a fair game. You

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<v Speaker 5>get steamweled, the same thing, you know, the Soviet Union.

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<v Speaker 5>You're a kulak, you're a business owner, your bourgeois, you know, whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>you're gone, you're done, haha, your death is to be celebrated.

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<v Speaker 5>This is where this leads. This is why it's so sinister.

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<v Speaker 5>This is why I go on about it and join

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<v Speaker 5>all the dots.

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<v Speaker 1>So join all the dots.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Sila Rampose's government that put Netta Yahoo in

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<v Speaker 2>the dock with the IC International Court of Justice said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what Israel is doing is they're you know, barbaric there

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<v Speaker 2>war criminals. So that was the South Africans doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You go to a any any indigenous march here in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia and there'll be the Palace pro Palestinian flag.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they don't even hide it all. They's one

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<v Speaker 1>and the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, you join the dots and it is, as James says,

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<v Speaker 2>the Marxist attack on the West, and we are in

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<v Speaker 2>the crossers. And that's that's the reality of the situation.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've got people who are supposed to represent a

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<v Speaker 3>conservative side of politics who say, oh, there's no jobs

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<v Speaker 3>in the culture wars, why would we want to This

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<v Speaker 3>is the values of your country, This is the future

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<v Speaker 3>of your country. If you can't be interested in that

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<v Speaker 3>as a politician, you're in the wrong game. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>just in there because you have obsessions about tax policy,

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<v Speaker 3>then I don't know, go be a charted accountant. This

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<v Speaker 3>is what people actually care about in a deep and

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<v Speaker 3>it reaches everywhere, every facet of life. It's not just universities,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just what you see on television, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>just foreign policy. It is everywhere, and it does impact

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately economically.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, of course, get interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>Because the thing is, you know, this is why I

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<v Speaker 5>think Scott Morrison was very much you know, like that

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<v Speaker 5>was so wrong to say, because if you're a center

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<v Speaker 5>right party, and if your party is based around values

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<v Speaker 5>of individual rights, freedom, achievement, you know, being left alone

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<v Speaker 5>to do your thing and achieve for your family, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>those are values. And if you let the left run

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<v Speaker 5>rampant through the schools, the culture of the media, of

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<v Speaker 5>the ABC and push values that are antithetical to that,

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<v Speaker 5>then people are not going to hear your case. They're

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<v Speaker 5>going to just think that socialism is the norm, collectivism

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<v Speaker 5>is the norm. You know, this is what Anthony ALBINIZI

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<v Speaker 5>wants to push hard for the next six years and

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<v Speaker 5>reset the entire dial on this nation. What we are

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<v Speaker 5>as a country, you know, from center right to a

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<v Speaker 5>center left nation. That's why culture absolutely I matagine if

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<v Speaker 5>you're a center right party like the liberals. Hello, you've

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<v Speaker 5>got to fight for the values that are going to

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<v Speaker 5>support people to vote you into power one day.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the only big win the Conservatives have had in

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<v Speaker 3>the last five years, other than Queen's end life that's

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<v Speaker 3>sort a big win I'm talking about nationally is the referendum,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was when they were absolutely in the end,

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<v Speaker 3>clear eye, single minded, unapologetic about the position, and they

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<v Speaker 3>won in a much bigger ago where.

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<v Speaker 5>They focused too. At twenty thirteen they focus.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, but in the last five years that's the

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<v Speaker 3>only win that can count on. Hopefully they can learn

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<v Speaker 3>from that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short break. After the break

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<v Speaker 2>Canbra Clown Show in a tick roll up, roll up,

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<v Speaker 2>step right this way. It's the greatest show on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't believe your eyes as we pull cats out

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<v Speaker 2>of bags and meet the Pope in our favorite clown

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<v Speaker 2>show headgear. Yes it's Albozo and the Canbra Clown Show

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<v Speaker 2>back from their Royal Gala People World tour under the

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<v Speaker 2>Vatican Big Top. More on that in a second, but first,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of tension in side show Ali and the Tunnel

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<v Speaker 2>of Love or should that be the Haunted House, as

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<v Speaker 2>two of our favorite amateur clowns little to be proud of,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you numer numer numerology, clairvoyance, Madam lay down

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<v Speaker 2>Susan hopped in and out of bed with each other

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<v Speaker 2>all week Like most marital spats, nobody quite knew what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuss was really all about.

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<v Speaker 21>I can tell you because I was in the National

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<v Speaker 21>Party party room that made this decision, the decision which

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<v Speaker 21>was then conveyed to the Liberal leader, and that was

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<v Speaker 21>not part of our consideration.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, But they appear to be kissing and making

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<v Speaker 2>up over the weekend. Maybe they should book a romantic

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<v Speaker 2>room at Kim's on the Central Coast for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of nights. But what sort of damaging effect has all

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<v Speaker 2>this had on the kids, one must ask.

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<v Speaker 5>It's no good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are some young Libs who put out a video

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<v Speaker 2>on the ABC of all places, discussing their future.

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<v Speaker 35>There's people on the conservative side of politics that say

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<v Speaker 35>the Coalition needs to go further to the right.

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<v Speaker 8>That's why they're losing the election.

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<v Speaker 35>If the Coalition needed to go further to the right,

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<v Speaker 35>one nation would be in government.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're not.

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<v Speaker 35>They need to be progressive on social policy issues of

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<v Speaker 35>climate change and abroad. But when it comes to the economy,

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<v Speaker 35>that's where they need it to state their difference with labor.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh dear.

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<v Speaker 1>Young man.

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<v Speaker 2>Firstly, I hate to break it to you because you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to find out soon enough climate change policies and

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<v Speaker 2>net zero are the modern Australian economy and indeed are

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<v Speaker 2>the single greater threat to your future prosperity or impoverishment.

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<v Speaker 2>And moreover, unless the Coalition commits to abandoning net zero

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<v Speaker 2>and pulling out of Paris, you won't have an economy worthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the name.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 35>There's also an element of cultural warfare, you know, picking

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<v Speaker 35>what flag to stand in front of. I think Australians

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<v Speaker 35>are more interested in what a government is going to

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<v Speaker 35>do for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dear, what government's going to do for them.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Liberal Party think pandering to the woke left

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<v Speaker 2>and demanding middle class welfare is the way ahead, Australia

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<v Speaker 2>is in for some very troubling times.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, I think.

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<v Speaker 35>The more important thing to do is to sort of go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 35>what does it mean to be a conservative in twenty

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<v Speaker 35>twenty five?

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<v Speaker 8>So what does it mean to be.

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<v Speaker 6>Sort of socially progressive.

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<v Speaker 8>By economically a bit more liberal. How does that frame now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dear, it's catching. How about not being socially progressive?

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<v Speaker 2>Socially progressive is a meaningless left wing term which covers

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<v Speaker 2>everything from some fairly reasonable proposals to a Pandora's box

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<v Speaker 2>of socialist horrors, such as divisive racist politics like the

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<v Speaker 2>Voice built around smashing traditional norms and values and replacing

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<v Speaker 2>them with tribal politics and the welfare state. So young liberal,

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<v Speaker 2>instead of pandering to the socially progressive labor light nonsense,

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<v Speaker 2>how about actually sticking to the ideas that Robert Menzie's

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<v Speaker 2>fought for fighting socialism.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, it's not all doom and gloom.

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<v Speaker 2>At least one young liberal lad appears to have his

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<v Speaker 2>head screwed on properly.

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<v Speaker 15>I think one thing we need to focus on is

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<v Speaker 15>making sure we have a comprehensive plan, but one that

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<v Speaker 15>really reflects liberal values. That we are the party of

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<v Speaker 15>small government and small spending.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, I was intrigued by this tweet put out this

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<v Speaker 2>week by the ultra Lefty Australia Institute saying carbon offsets

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<v Speaker 2>are quote a sham.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 5>We are all.

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<v Speaker 1>Paying for this stupidity.

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<v Speaker 2>This sham quote from the Australia Institute huge news today.

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<v Speaker 2>Energy Australia has been forced to admit what Australia Institute

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<v Speaker 2>Research has long known. Carbon offsets are a sh sham

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<v Speaker 2>and do nothing to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

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<v Speaker 1>And the gloats.

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<v Speaker 2>They even helpfully included this clip from last year.

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<v Speaker 8>It's cheaper to greenwash in Australia. They're not.

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<v Speaker 20>It's cheaper to buy carbonov It's cheaper to pay a

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<v Speaker 20>certification fee to climate.

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<v Speaker 8>Active and to buy some offsets from a.

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<v Speaker 20>Wind farm than it is to implement the technology that

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<v Speaker 20>you need, or go one hundred percent renewable, or change

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<v Speaker 20>your business practice or change your business model.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's the great carbon offset sham. Even the lovies

1:33:38.040 --> 1:33:41.120
<v Speaker 2>are waking up to it. Meanwhile, what has been called

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest scandal since Watergate has hit the USA with

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<v Speaker 2>the uncovering of the way the media and the bureaucrats

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<v Speaker 2>and the White House all colluded to cover up the

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<v Speaker 2>mental decline of Joe Biden. What is particularly galling to

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<v Speaker 2>many Americans is how they were constantly lied to by

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<v Speaker 2>so many people who had met with Joe Biden, swearing

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<v Speaker 2>that he was in perfect shape, sharp as attack, a

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<v Speaker 2>mental gymnast, smarter than he's ever been, such as this.

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<v Speaker 14>Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell

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<v Speaker 14>you the truth and f you if you can't handle

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<v Speaker 14>the truth. This version of Biden intellectually, analytically is the

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<v Speaker 14>best Biden ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Or how about this.

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<v Speaker 10>I have spent countless hours with this president, whether in

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<v Speaker 10>the Oval office or on the road, and I have

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<v Speaker 10>to say he's sharp, he's engaged, he pushes us for information.

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<v Speaker 2>But one person not mentioned in the current controversy who

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps should be mentioned is our very own Albozo, our

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister, himself a passionate supporter of Joe Biden, who

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<v Speaker 2>had this to say when he was asked at a

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<v Speaker 2>press conference following last year's Quad meeting where he spent

1:35:07.720 --> 1:35:13.320
<v Speaker 2>time with Joe Biden about Joe Biden's mental faculties as one.

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<v Speaker 3>Of her A relatively few number of people who's had

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<v Speaker 3>this one one meeting.

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<v Speaker 11>With you, what your personal impressions of Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 24>That's here, He's fit, he is titally on top of

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<v Speaker 24>his brief.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow, I haven't heard oh really?

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<v Speaker 2>So was Alboso simply fooled, or do we have a

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<v Speaker 2>liar in the lodge.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you be the judge of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, we have this quite frankly bizarre footage out from

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<v Speaker 2>Albosa taking his traveling circus all the way to Indonesia.

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<v Speaker 2>They say wrestling with his labor colleagues is like herding cats,

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe that's where Alboso developed this particular skill. Make

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<v Speaker 2>of this what you will, but it appears to be

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<v Speaker 2>Albosa give the Indonesians as some kind of gift a

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<v Speaker 2>scarf to put around a cat, A.

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<v Speaker 1>Cat in a pram with a scarf around it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Qataris give their friends six hundred billion dollar jet airplanes.

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<v Speaker 1>We give our friends a cat in a scarf.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, Labor are pressing ahead with their unrealized capital gains

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<v Speaker 2>tax on super which we now learn Alboso and many

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<v Speaker 2>of his fellow clowns will be exempt from Hallelijah. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>here he was with Peter Stefanovic a few months ago

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<v Speaker 2>assuring us that this was not the case. How will

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<v Speaker 2>you personally be taxed under your proposed changes, PM when

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<v Speaker 2>you retire.

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<v Speaker 24>I would have to out of the contribution. That is

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<v Speaker 24>the payments that I received there would be graded.

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<v Speaker 2>Text ocean Again, it is up to you to decide

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<v Speaker 2>whether Albozo was simply not across the detail.

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<v Speaker 1>Or whether we have a liar in the lodge. You

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<v Speaker 1>be the judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Next stop, Alboso took his clown act to attend the

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<v Speaker 2>inauguration of Pope Leo the fourteenth, complete with a clownish

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<v Speaker 2>crocodile dundee hat.

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<v Speaker 1>Not everyone got the joke.

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<v Speaker 2>One startled observer, doctor Claudio Betty commented, men should not

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<v Speaker 2>wear hats.

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<v Speaker 6>Prime Minister, even or a hat?

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<v Speaker 35>Is that typical producol wearing a hat for a mass

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<v Speaker 35>like that?

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<v Speaker 11>I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 8>I would say absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 36>But of course the sun was very bad and.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that.

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<v Speaker 36>I mean, my idea is that, considering that it's a

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<v Speaker 36>silly surgical celebration, men should not wear hats. But well,

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<v Speaker 36>eventually I think that their protocola had to be changed

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<v Speaker 36>a little bit because the sun was really hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the Pope definitely prefers men without hats. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>what with the nineteen eighties pop group men without hats

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<v Speaker 2>have to say about that hyperbol extreme exaggeration or telling

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<v Speaker 2>the truth. We like to dish up the criticism on

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<v Speaker 2>this program where it's warranted, but we also like to

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<v Speaker 2>serve up.

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<v Speaker 1>The praise where it's warranted.

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<v Speaker 2>Praise to David Chris Afooley, the liberal leader of Queensland,

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<v Speaker 2>the premiere there, for standing up to the United Nations.

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<v Speaker 1>RITA tell us about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're expanding their adult crimes at all time laws.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you are a U offender but you commit

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<v Speaker 3>a serious crime, then you're going to do some punishment

1:39:04.360 --> 1:39:06.680
<v Speaker 3>for it, And they've got a youth crime crisis and

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<v Speaker 3>they're tackling it. And Christoph Foley had a message for

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<v Speaker 3>the UN who are crime These legislation isn't what should

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<v Speaker 3>be the UN in a progressive country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an infringement on basic child rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Christphooley, using language almost as colorful as our earlier guest,

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<v Speaker 2>a similar sentiments.

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<v Speaker 5>Here we go, David Chris.

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<v Speaker 37>Here's my message to the United Nations. You don't control me,

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<v Speaker 37>and I don't answer to you. I answer to Queenslanders,

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<v Speaker 37>answer to a whole heap of those people back there

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<v Speaker 37>who've had their lives turned apart.

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<v Speaker 5>That's great. How good is that? You know? And I

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<v Speaker 5>just wish, by the way, that we would see this

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<v Speaker 5>sort of strength and moral fiber from the London police

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<v Speaker 5>because there's an amazing story that's just broken overnight that

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<v Speaker 5>a man whose identity is being withheld for his own safety,

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<v Speaker 5>which tells you where this is going. Well, he was

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<v Speaker 5>arrested because he went to a counter demonstration at a

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<v Speaker 5>pro Palestine march carrying a sign mocking Nasrallah, the head

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<v Speaker 5>of Hesbela. The police pulled them in and said, Oi,

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<v Speaker 5>do you think it's all right that you had a

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<v Speaker 5>sign that would inflame pro Hesbela people, which is insane

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<v Speaker 5>because Hesbela is like a terrorist group. But okay, five,

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<v Speaker 5>this shows where free speech is in Britain. It's an

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<v Speaker 5>absolute joke. Who've seen people like Alison Pearson, the Daily

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<v Speaker 5>Telegraph columnists, the woman who's been banged up for thirty

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<v Speaker 5>one months for that tweet and this this is where

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<v Speaker 5>free speech really has gone off the rails in Britain.

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<v Speaker 5>And by the way, this is what happens when you

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<v Speaker 5>have multicultural society without assimilation. You have to lose all

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<v Speaker 5>of your other rights and keep place together.

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<v Speaker 3>Bedives who say they're above the cultural war, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>fight them also in Britain, I mean that do not

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<v Speaker 3>have free speech.

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<v Speaker 7>That is just.

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<v Speaker 5>In free speech.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>Former police officer had four officers at his home because

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<v Speaker 3>he posted something talking about the rise of anti Semitism.

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<v Speaker 2>In the UK and you got caught reading the Spectator

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<v Speaker 2>that Brexity magazine hadn't done with Quarrel books. That's it

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<v Speaker 2>for this week's Outsiders. Thank you so much for watching us.

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<v Speaker 2>But what a busy week you have.

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<v Speaker 5>Every evening.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I never miss it the Rita Panahe show

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<v Speaker 2>at eleven pm.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course come Friday, thank god it's Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>When you get the full Outsiders, you get the world

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<v Speaker 2>according to Rowan Dean At seven o'clock, you get James

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<v Speaker 2>Morrow at eight o'clock, you get Rita panahere at nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great night Friday night is. That's the night

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<v Speaker 1>to stay and watch Telly. We'll see you next Sunday.