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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was again in the challenge, Maddie, I was

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Speaker 3: super proud number one, but I had like I had

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Speaker 3: of co captain during that phase as well, like another legend,

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Speaker 3: super super great blow can play our bill as you know.

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Speaker 3: And then Joey retired and Beusy was captain and both

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Speaker 3: those boys were captain of New South Wales, so Bezzy

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I had Steve Simpson Simpson as my offside

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Speaker 3: I Simo was older than me and more experienced than me,

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Speaker 3: and he was a wonderful clubman. Cimo was one wonderful

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed, Yeah, the responsibility of being the captain of

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Speaker 2: Was it Wayne the major captain?

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Speaker 3: It was Brian Smith.

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Speaker 1: Brian Smith, Wayne or right? That the period where your captain.

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Speaker 1: What an amazing time to be captain too, where you've

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Speaker 1: And someone was asked once in the media, how many

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Speaker 3: You know, we still had to bring new players in

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Speaker 3: of I've got mixed feelings around that time, Like from

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Speaker 3: I thought I was playing my best footy there.

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Speaker 3: There were major injuries physically but psychologically. To come back

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Speaker 1: Funny, I was noting our talking to Johnny Lewis about

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Speaker 1: like the greatest coach of all time with Balliak and Wayne.

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Speaker 1: I can only imagine private ownership is private ownership can

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Speaker 3: But even they yeah they pull out mate, Jeezu, you

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Speaker 4: Well, because they're older, Like it's almost like they just

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Speaker 2: How it is. State of Origin, great memories there. Who

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Speaker 3: I had? Graham Murray debuted me. Oh muz, it's not

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Speaker 1: That that first two thousand and seven series. And I'd

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Speaker 3: So I liked that many like I sort of thrive

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Speaker 4: So when you're because the most famous part of probably

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Speaker 3: But again, I'm not going to challenge one of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and he's right, you're on there after fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: It's just the nature of state of origin. Yeah, is

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Speaker 3: And like we had Bas Trent Barrett in camp for

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Speaker 4: It's almost one of the things though similar to like

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Speaker 4: You know what it's like inside a team you can

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Speaker 4: like you know, they're they're scared of us. Yeah, they're scared.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to work. He will never be in

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Speaker 3: I love my time with Billy.

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Speaker 2: Now the other big moment, Coop, you want to talk about?

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, okay, so another big one in State of Origin? Right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah but what knocked out Steve Price in Prices Last

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, yeah yeah, And it was yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, they won the first two games, so we would

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Speaker 3: and Locky back, and I'm like, they're going to give

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00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 3: us the paw here, which is probably fair enough. And

436
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 3: then I've since heard it was a miscommunication. Smithy has

437
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: tapped it. I'm forty meters away. I've had nothing to

438
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 3: do with the scrap.

439
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 4: You're also like the nic like the nicest guy.

440
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: I eight nine tops and had a fair relationship with

441
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 3: the coins and blokes in this camp. And I'm like, fuck,

442
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: they're going to kick the fucking bomb of me here,

443
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: all right, right here, fuck youse, let's go. So I

444
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 3: thought number one, I need to catch the bomb like

445
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: the big crowd. I don't want to embarrass myself. I've

446
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 3: got to just think my technique as I'm hearing like

447
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: thirteen queens and it's just screaming like stamped coming down

448
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 3: at me, and it's going to kick off again. And

449
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: I remember my old being used to always say before

450
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: I used to play elbows up what you're breathing, basically,

451
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 3: get your fucking elbows up and protect your head, and

452
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 3: I thought, that's that's what I need to do here,

453
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 3: and they're coming hard. So I caught the ball, returned

454
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: it and there was just head highs and I'm at

455
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 3: the bottom of the pack. I think I had hold

456
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 3: of first and or someone just to keep everyone closed,

457
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: and it was just a chaos on top of me

458
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 3: and then just all kick off again, more scraps and

459
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 3: more sin bins and that was the end of the game.

460
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 4: My favorite thing is that I remember so all the

461
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 4: Blues boys came in to help you, help you, and

462
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 4: poor Benny Craye probably the biggest moment.

463
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: We really appreciate you bringing this up again. He's not dead.

464
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 4: That look at the sky was dead to me. He

465
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 4: runs over and gives Justin Hodges a shove and then

466
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 4: just just comes after him and many Craig must have

467
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 4: just been on instinct starts running backwards and runs behind

468
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 4: the post. But the footage of it, Mate, he got

469
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 4: poor bloke, he got hammerd for it. So what so

470
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: what was the miscommunication?

471
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 3: I'll play kangaroos with those boys at the back end

472
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 3: of that year and they come up and apologize and said, mate,

473
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: Lockie was telling me to give the ball back to

474
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 3: you is like tap tap it Smithy and just roll

475
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 3: it to him and then let them play the ball

476
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: and then we'll kick off on him now and Smith's going, sweet,

477
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: I'll get the ball that tapped it bombed to me.

478
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: No, they come up, yeah you said, and I've.

479
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 3: Seen I think if someone sent me a podcast maybe

480
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: locket again Thurst and Rong and like they were like

481
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 3: it wasn't meant to go to kids. The kids. We

482
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 3: got on with the kids and he's the smallest guy

483
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: and the team and anyway we we sorted it out.

484
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: Amazing it. Your memory is playing for Australia all those yeah,

485
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 2: great memories.

486
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 3: I just again, I didn't think it was realistic, you know,

487
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: as a younger fellow, even when I first started playing

488
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: first grade to play for Australia and used to wait

489
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: me and my brother's up when kangaroo tools were on,

490
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 3: which you would have been planning, so we'd be up

491
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 3: at three or four am in the family land room

492
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: watching you know Sticky and those and Freddie and Mail

493
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 3: during that era. Like a great memory as a kid.

494
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: So I remember singing the national anthem. So we debuted.

495
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 3: There was like six of us. I think like all

496
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 3: day bood in Wellington against New Zealand, like me Israel

497
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 3: Birdie that's right, Cooper.

498
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 2: Kronk, that's right. So one where Gas gets knocked out

499
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: really bad.

500
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yeah, so I come on and play center

501
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 3: like early. So I was a utility for all but

502
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: one game for Australia and the only time I get

503
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: on was if someone get injured. Early Tati Dunne his

504
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: knee once Gas got ko, so I had to be

505
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 3: on first half sometimes, which is so I've got good

506
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 3: game time, but unfortunately was at the cost of someone else.

507
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 3: So we had five bogus, five or six pokes day Billin.

508
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: Ronnie Palmer's head trainer, Ronnie Legend for team Rale and

509
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: just far and enjoyment. So Ronnie goes, no, we got

510
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: five blots day Bill. And so in the team room

511
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: after dinner one night, we're going to make sure we

512
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: know the national anthem and like, yeah, we sung it

513
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: as a kid at school, but it wasn't the coolest

514
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: thing to do. So we all stood around and sung

515
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: the national anthem like half a dozen times to make

516
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: sure we all knew it and sung it passionately and

517
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: I'll never forget that Ronnie. Ronnie got us doing that

518
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: and you know, to sing the national anthem before the game,

519
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 3: arm in arm wearing the green and gold like it

520
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 3: was amazing.

521
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: And should be still the pinnacle of the game. It's

522
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: just it's just a fact at the moment the state

523
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: of origin is so big that it has become the pinnacle.

524
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: But still I maintained international football, representing your country should

525
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: be the pinna.

526
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

527
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: I think emotionally it definitely definitely is the intensity of origin.

528
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: The biggest stage is definitely Origin, but representing your country

529
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 3: for all those guys who are now playing for Pacific Nations,

530
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 3: super proud. It's good.

531
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 4: It's good to see that, like because obviously back when

532
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: you guys played, particularly against New Zealand and England, those

533
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: tests were brutal and it was competitive. It's probably less

534
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: competitive these days as much as it was back then.

535
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: But I have a theory that I think they're going

536
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: to do it with the NRLW actually, but I'd like

537
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: to see it with the guys that you don't If

538
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 4: you don't get picked in Australia, it doesn't matter if

539
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: you're you know, half Kei. We if you're half English,

540
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 4: like Victor Radley had to basically say, well, okay, I

541
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 4: won't play Origin to go play for England if you're

542
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 4: not picked in the squad of twenty five whatever they

543
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 4: take over. I reckon, you should just be able to

544
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 4: play for whoever, because in those in the in the series,

545
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 4: in the Try Series or World Cup at the end

546
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: of the year. That way you've got the best players

547
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: in the NRL and the Super League all playing, rather

548
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 4: than you might have blokes like you know, Victor Radley

549
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 4: who weren't able to play when they could have been.

550
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 4: They can play at that elite level. Yeah, you think

551
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 4: it's a possible, but little.

552
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: Do I reckon, I think it is cook it's a

553
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: mess at the moment. Tier one, tier two we've got

554
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: it where I actually believe that countries like Tong at

555
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: the moment, with the way the rules are with Origin,

556
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: in the fact that Origin players can play for Tier

557
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: two nations, I don't want Summer and Tong are hopping

558
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: out of Tier two.

559
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: I want them to stay at the moment.

560
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: Because players should be able to play like it, should

561
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: be able to play for those for their for their nations,

562
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: like that their Pacific Nations and I think it's really

563
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: really important. And it's funny about in the national football

564
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: Kurk Kok anyway, mix your brothers up all the time,

565
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: father son anyway, interesting to see what you think.

566
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: Mate.

567
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: You can play State of Origin right, But I'm telling

568
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: you the hardest game you will ever play is when

569
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: you turn up to play New Zealand.

570
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: And they're one.

571
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: When they are made, I'm telling you there's no The

572
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: physicality is unbelievable. And I played the Try Nations in

573
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: ninety nine Try Nations.

574
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: Final in New Zealand.

575
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: It was, without doubt, by far, the hardest game we've

576
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: ever played in my life.

577
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: It was so fucking brutal.

578
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: Tough and aggressive, that's for sure. You knew you had

579
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: to hold your gloves up for sure, tough.

580
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 4: Can I ask you before we go off foot you

581
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 4: we're going to talk about Everest. You guys, you and

582
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 4: dad walked to Markhughes Foundation Everest to got some good

583
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 4: touris on that. But lastly, playing with your brother back

584
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: to your brother, Matt Gidley, I've always thought this, didn't know,

585
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a stupid question. Probably is following Matthew and

586
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 4: Andrew the John's brothers, right, because you're and the Rudders

587
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: and the Kamalia and the Rudders and the Kamali. Sure,

588
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 4: but following you guys, because it's a rare thing to

589
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: play with your brother anyway in first grade is rare

590
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: thing to play against your brother, rare thing to have

591
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: brothers in the NRL, for you guys to play for

592
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 4: your hometown Newcastle. But to follow you know, Matthew and

593
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: Andrew is that is that a high pressure sort of thing?

594
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 4: Like is that something that you parayed on you guys a.

595
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: Little bit or do you junior? Fully? I guess there

596
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: was some comparisons with you know, you're playing lot Matt,

597
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: and did you only get a start because your brother?

598
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: That type of thing? But we would different players like

599
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: Matt was. Matt was a five eight to start with

600
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: then pushed the center and I was a different player

601
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: to Matt. Matt was more naturally skillful for sure than me.

602
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: Like his footwork and that that flick pass he had

603
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: a great combination with all his winning his carnee.

604
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: You know, dous, you know you've had an impact when

605
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: they named something else. Still to this day, if someone

606
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: does that reverse.

607
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: Flick, they always go to Gidley ma.

608
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: He just he had the wingers being boozled, you know,

609
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: they do the stay out and you go himself or

610
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: they bought in and he just flickered. Had great wingers

611
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 3: that could just finish.

612
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: The one we.

613
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: Played, we beat some George George, that's out at the

614
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: moment that footage off the scrum.

615
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 4: You threw the ball off the to Darren Albert.

616
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: But he went, he went, He done me. He went

617
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: around the back of the winger, flicked it. Now we

618
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: just pinned him.

619
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: They got named number one game of the nineties.

620
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: That's a Frost Sports did it and last play the game,

621
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: last player of the game.

622
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: And just excuse my ignorance, but was he the first

623
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 4: obviously named the Gidla flick because it was so iconic

624
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: and he was so good at it, But were many

625
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: centers doing it before. Maddie or.

626
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: Matt was probably doing it first. Gas was the next

627
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: best best at Mark Gas now yep, and they probably

628
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: come through similar time. But I never seen my brother practice.

629
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: They'll stick around after train and doing that practice. I've

630
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: never seen any practice that ever, And that's why it

631
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: came really naturally to him. Footwork. He try and get

632
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: on the outside of his center. If the winger stayed out,

633
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: he'd hold hold in.

634
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: That because it's every center has to put Miles would

635
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: do it.

636
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: But Gene Miles was more of a basketball over the top.

637
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: Reverse you know who was Erican Mary McGregor was probably

638
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: before Matt, but he was again, probably was bigger, so

639
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: he was probably able to wrestle his way through those

640
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: and offload te Kurt.

641
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: In season ninety nine, we played a trial game. I

642
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: don't know for again, I don't know it was paramatter

643
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: or someone else, but we played a trial game and

644
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: we're just because it was trial game. Well, loosey, goosey,

645
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: were just playing sideline the sideline. Your brother set up

646
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: two tries to fellow called Lenny Beckett on the sideline

647
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: mate and went bang, we're throwing it from a fast side.

648
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: He just went bang held and I'm not kidding. He

649
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: was throwing those about twenty twenty five meters and hitting

650
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Lanny right on the chest. It was just it was incredible, and.

651
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: I think Matt Matt comes through as a half like

652
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: that year ninety seven, I think you when Joey were

653
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: out for a while, it was Matt and who picked

654
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: up through the middle part of the year, so we.

655
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: Don't we don't win a comp without those guys. And

656
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: unfairly to your to your brother, I think it might

657
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: have been one of the first semi finals. He went

658
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: and broke his ankle.

659
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, you did too, Yeah, sosed mister GF. But

660
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: he was only pretty young that stage. We've got the

661
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: one in the final.

662
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 4: Hey Mark used track because we had boozy on a

663
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: few weeks back. But he dad and him were telling

664
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: yarns about it because you were pretty freshly retired that Yeah.

665
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd flown from the UK, flowing my family back

666
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: to Newcastle, bought them a car, packed my bags again,

667
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 3: flew straight to every space camp. The first time I've

668
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: seen all these boys in two years. So my brother

669
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: Hughesy Russell Richardson got yourself, Maddie chief. So I was

670
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: a pete fitness, I guess.

671
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: And how did you hand it? Because you would have been

672
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 4: a better nick than these blokes.

673
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: How did you have it? It was hard. You had

674
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: lots of self doubt because they do that oxygen reading

675
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: every night. Your oxygen levels are going down plays with

676
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: your head psychologically, and then your short of breath, getting

677
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: a few headaches and like I'm struggling here, and so

678
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: played a little bit on your head. But then your

679
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: body adapts to it. Then you're good for the next day,

680
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: next couple of days. But our preparation wasn't as professional.

681
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: Tip top was it?

682
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: What a lot of drinking.

683
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: Our first day in Catman do. We sat around a

684
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: pool just necking beers and we had a bit of

685
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: a circle type ceremony where we spoke about the y

686
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 3: and the passion and the goal I suppose. Then we

687
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: went for a feed.

688
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: And then the guy was like, who's run?

689
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: It goes right our boys, I probably think you've had

690
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: too much already, you.

691
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: Know, it's trying to go back. And I was like,

692
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: fuck that, mate, not Catman do every day.

693
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: So we went.

694
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: So we went found a carry out enjoy it.

695
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: I ducked off it, you know. I thought there's got

696
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: to be a karaoke joyt somewhere around here, and found

697
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: someone to take me around and it was upstairs, this

698
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: little shifty area, and found a karaoke race back and said, boys,

699
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: let's let's go. It's on And yeah, we had twenty

700
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: eight likes. Something that we knew something we didn't played

701
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: folly with and yeah karaoke you were up first thing.

702
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: Maddie, Yeah, yeah, I remember.

703
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: What you so, yeah, shuffle that's what you always was

704
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: that the first time?

705
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: But would they know? Would they have known that song?

706
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: Well?

707
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: I remember your brother saying that as you kind of

708
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: he heard the song and I fucking fucking where's that?

709
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: Where's that song coming from? And he said, oh mate,

710
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: how bad is that Blake's voice?

711
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: So I put my name for a song. I get

712
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: up there thinking ass song. I ducked behind the curtain.

713
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 3: I come back out. I'm topped up at this day.

714
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: I come back out nude, totally nude.

715
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: The Memberlieves didn't know quite what to make of it.

716
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: What did they made? The trek still locked up and

717
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: capt me.

718
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: Just totally naked?

719
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 5: And what that?

720
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: What was the response from the Nepalese Like did they just.

721
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a hero, he was up on shoulders, dude?

722
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 4: What right? So then so you have that big night

723
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: and then do you guys track the next day?

724
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: Mate? The flight was the scariest flight in moment of

725
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: my life. How bad was.

726
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: It going in to look?

727
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: Is it locally? Airport? They've now closed the airport, you

728
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: can only chopper in and chopper out. We flew in.

729
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: The runway is built in the side of the mountain.

730
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 3: When you leave, you just fly off there a cliff.

731
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

732
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 4: So when you leave, do you essentially do you go

733
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: down before you.

734
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: Go goes downhill? And then it just drops off and

735
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: the plane just completely off a cliff. It's the most

736
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: dangerous take off and in the warning place in the world.

737
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: Do they have they had any crashes there before?

738
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: You know who sent me your photo. Breezey went there

739
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: and done it, and he'd done a few years before us,

740
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: and then he sent a fight out to his flight.

741
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: The flight when they landed, they didn't make the air

742
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: strip and just crustright on the side of the cliff.

743
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: It was the same plane that breathe went on, fuck it.

744
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: But Jenna, Kurt, what about because we were just saying

745
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: we'll finished. There been certain circumstances we will come back

746
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: to about how quick everyone was, and we just want

747
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: to get out of there and get back to Catman

748
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: Do and have a few beers and just relax and

749
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: then go home. And there was a massive fog on

750
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, we don't know we can flight.

751
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: We're in the choppers and they didn't have the monitoring devices.

752
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: It was pretty like pretty basic. And they're like, oh,

753
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: we don't think we can do it. And then one

754
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: of them said, oh, how bad do you want to

755
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: get back? We really want to he said, okay, And

756
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: I'm standing in the watchers. The first helicopter goes off

757
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: into a cloud and literally another chopper came out of

758
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: a cloud.

759
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 3: I remember that.

760
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: Oh it was nearly a head on first because we'd

761
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: all got the base camp, we'd hit the goal and

762
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: gone to that next little spiked.

763
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: We just we're getting the chopper back down through the

764
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: through the valley to then fly off the edge of

765
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: the cliff one and we just wanted to get back

766
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: and just be safe by then A get back to

767
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 3: cap and a.

768
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: Lot of blakes. We're in a bit of trouble.

769
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, three boys got flying straight to the hospital. You've

770
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: been one And I remember that chopper that near miss,

771
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: and we got in. We were the last chopper at

772
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: the second stop, Me and Hughsey plus god O and

773
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 3: a few of the boys. They stack heaps of stuff

774
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: in the choppers, just throw all this equipment in to

775
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: get it back down, and we're sitting there. I'm in

776
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: the front seat next to Hughsey the choppers going you

777
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: get you feel the revs going up and all the

778
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: gauges are going up and we're not moving. It keeps

779
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: going up, keeps going up, and then the pilot of

780
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: the crossed us goes very heavy, very heavy, husay, and

781
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 3: I going get us off. We'll get the next one. Anyway.

782
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 3: It takes off and gets us back there.

783
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: But it was unbelievab.

784
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: We were all watching the first one go going beauty

785
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: were away, and as it goes into one cloud, another

786
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: one comes out, probably twenty meters.

787
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: But Kurt, I remember with you. We were we did.

788
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: That the last track after we hit base camp and

789
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: we went too much and we did too much. And

790
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: I was telling Cooper before I said, we were walking

791
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: back and you just retired right, and you're known as

792
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: one of the fittest players ever played. And I'm walking

793
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: alongside you and I'm going, mate, I'm feeling fucking really,

794
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm feeling really weirdy, really bad. And there was all

795
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden, this horse is brought across the salt

796
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: plane and it's just like it's like a ghost horse,

797
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: and I going, am I fucking hallucinating? And I looked

798
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: to you and you're fucked. And then behind us a

799
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: couple of boys started to pissing themselves, and that's where

800
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: we went back and went, mate.

801
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember that foot. We didn't know whether the

802
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: horse was real, like we were damn, we're flat. Well,

803
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: altitude was hitting us and we'd hit the goal, so

804
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: you know, we're just emotionally we're starting to drop and

805
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: it was just barren area and this white horse was

806
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: just sort of walking next to us, just cruise and

807
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 3: we're like, is that real?

808
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: So they have wildhorse was up there?

809
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah?

810
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then then we went into the teahouse and

811
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: we're sort of relaxing and having a beer or two.

812
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, one of the boys drops, yeah,

813
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: starts vomiting, and then he just collapses and Crowey passes.

814
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: They actually go, shit, I haven't seen crow for a

815
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: little bit. I run back to the room. Crowy sound asleep,

816
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: but you go now you've got to get him up.

817
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: Dragged him up, they took him into the teahouse, put

818
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: him on oxygen because he was so.

819
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 4: Low all night.

820
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: So we started in Kaptan and do without oxygen. Oxygen

821
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: gentlemen or whatever it.

822
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: Is that they prick your blood.

823
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: No, no, no, put the reading on your hand. You

824
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: go to the hospital. It was a ninety eight ninety nine.

825
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 3: Krow was down to fifty on that final night. Yeah,

826
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: so he was in big trouble. Remember our final hurrah

827
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: back at Kaptan were our chicken wings beers Crow. He's

828
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: in the hospital. We're bringing him.

829
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: Oh that's that salt in the winter. So when you

830
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: finally got back, did you have a massive night? Did

831
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 4: you just rip in?

832
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, sure did.

833
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: And I imagine the food would have been good, right.

834
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: Food was good at that area, wasn't it?

835
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: Mate? Cap Man Do is an amazing city.

836
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: You're going along and it's just like it's it's like

837
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: it's unlike any city I've ever been to in my life.

838
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: Remember the super third world butcher Butcher's blocks on the

839
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: edge of the streets and flies and that people everywhere,

840
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: and then the other area just super pretty markets and

841
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 3: clean food.

842
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: But you know, it's and I've said this for one

843
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: of the on Tuesdays podcasts, was before I went There's

844
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: a bloke. There was a bloke he's an American guy.

845
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: Did a show on ABC and Channel seven called body Hack.

846
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give his name.

847
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: He's a terrific fella, he told me.

848
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: When I was about to go, he goes, he guys,

849
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll just tee you this now. He said,

850
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: when you fly to Catman do the first time, you'll go,

851
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: oh wow, this is this is a bit too much.

852
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's a third world city, he said, which it is,

853
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: he said, But when you go and do the track

854
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: and then you come back to Catman, do it'll feel

855
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: like Monica fucking true. Yeah, wow, Yeah, that's unbelievable.

856
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: The tiny mate, they're like sixty kegs and they carry

857
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: three bags, strap them all together, put a piece of

858
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: blanket over their head, lift them up and maybe a flying.

859
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: One way going up like some of the toughest climbs

860
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: in the mountain, and you you're struggling, then all of

861
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: a sudden, a shirple will go past you. Taking greg

862
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: from one tea house to the next. They'll have a

863
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: dozen cartons of beer on their back, tied with a

864
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: piece of rope.

865
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: Blobs walking up there with fridges on a fridge, strapped

866
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: their back.

867
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: Are they so strong they used to it?

868
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: They're not physically built big, but just lungs and endurance wise. Yep,

869
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 3: they're adapted to high altitude.

870
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: And when you're up at these teahouses, like are they

871
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: selling you don't drink too much?

872
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 2: Or yeah they were?

873
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: And was that advice taken on board? Because hearing you guys,

874
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 4: you said, yeah, I wrap the tea house, having a

875
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 4: couple of beers and then one of the boys passes

876
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: out starts spewing everywhere, probably think like, is that a

877
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: mix between the altitude, the oxygen, and the amount of

878
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: grog you're drinking?

879
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: CrowI coming on the back of like a three day

880
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: bender as well. He's no hydration. Then got the ships

881
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: and didn't have any of the tablets that you put

882
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 3: in for like to purefoy water. So he's just burning

883
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: the king at all. In Yeah, he was.

884
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: Getting whacked from every angle.

885
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not exactly an epitome of health.

886
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: Now he's not.

887
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: Now is there anything or do moved? Do we conclude

888
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: now with Loan Survivor?

889
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, go Loan Survivor.

890
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: To finish with we do a think called Loan Survivor.

891
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm not a good very good at explaining it. So yeah,

892
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: he made an excellent hard So the one is to

893
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: best party animals play with her against Okay.

894
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 4: So basically what's going to happen here is Kurt Dad's

895
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 4: going to start you off with two players. For example,

896
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: it might be Wendell Saylor and Lodi da Kiri. You

897
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 4: have to pick one of them, and then we go

898
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: down until there's one left and they will win the

899
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 4: category of best party animals you've ever played with.

900
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: Okay, you've got you've got the names, the name. Okay,

901
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: let's go lock in for this.

902
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: Red strap In, Ben Kennedy, Andrew Johnson, Joey. That's it.

903
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: Thanks for good I thought I'll start at the Apex.

904
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: Well, that's the first time he's done that. Is there

905
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 4: no one else out there? Is there any other shout

906
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 4: out for someone?

907
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: Is anyone?

908
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 4: Does anyone come close to Joey? That's what we'd like

909
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: to know.

910
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: Willie Masonwcastle. I've got a great relationship with Mace. We

911
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 3: sort of come through. He was a bit older than me,

912
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: but we played by my first year Hna Marinas in

913
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: the junior team and we always had good fun together.

914
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: Mace in all those camps that we played together, and

915
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: then when he come to Newcastle. It's good to see

916
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: him finish off some of his foot back at Newcastle

917
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 3: where he kind of missed out and all that pathways.

918
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, of course.

919
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: I love that video of him where I think Fox

920
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: League make him up at the newer game and he's

921
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 4: just putting on a show.

922
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 3: You know, he was off contract, that's why he talking

923
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: to himself for his next girl. But it was funny.

924
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 4: He was just like he knew the camera's running the

925
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: whole time. He's on the sideline going, get Wayne to

926
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 4: get me back out of here, get Cold, get Waye

927
00:42:59,440 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: to get back out.

928
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: Then he's entertainment. Plus he and Scope are doing really

929
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: well testes Scopes and impressive gone yeah really really just

930
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: dad or his uncle?

931
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just.

932
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 2: Got it wrong. Bradman gets du occasionally.

933
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: Fellas last word. Do you you've got the test results?

934
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Test results here. So they do a cross check

935
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: with like.

936
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 5: Generally they do it with the system that has people's

937
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 5: DNA in general, so a lot of the people are

938
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 5: people that have been locked up before. Here it is

939
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: here we go, Oh who's Matt.

940
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: Hoy That form of drug taking surfer. I was talking

941
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: about the surfing, Appreciate it mate, loved her brother great

942
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: on