Speaker 1: Peter Quedlin Live from year twenty four.
Speaker 2: Hell, look a sterling effort there from Michael McCormack and
Speaker 2: others in the Parliament today against the Veterans Minister. I'll
Speaker 2: get to that in a moment. Good evening, welcome to
Speaker 2: the program, and look, just as we go to where
Speaker 2: I can report to you that the gambling advertising legislation
Speaker 2: has now passed the House of Representatives with bipartisan support,
Speaker 2: although there were some Coalition MPs that crossed the floor.
Speaker 2: I'll get you an update on that shortly. Here's what's
Speaker 2: coming up on the program tonight. The shocking display by
Speaker 2: Labour's Veterans Minister dragged kicking and screaming to meet with
Speaker 2: veterans only after he was called out in the Parliament
Speaker 2: Matt Keoh, he's got form here. It's time for the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister to step in and step up Labour's letters bungle.
Speaker 2: The convicted child sex offender might be saved from deportation
Speaker 2: because the fifty year old male says he's gay and
Speaker 2: can't be returned to Africa. That's the argument and its
Speaker 2: sparking outrage.
Speaker 3: So where is.
Speaker 2: The Minister Tony Burke still in hiding? Plus taxpayers on
Speaker 2: the hook for hundreds of millions each year to help
Speaker 2: find an activist network that props up governments like the
Speaker 2: one in Canberra. A major report has been released on this.
Speaker 2: I'll speak to the research author a little later. And
Speaker 2: just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, one
Speaker 2: of our major banks now warning that rents could soar
Speaker 2: by as much as thirty percent.
Speaker 4: The National Australia Bank has confirmed labor's toxic taxes will
Speaker 4: send rents soaring by thirty percent. Well, the Prime Minister
Speaker 4: guarantee rents will not go up by thirty percent.
Speaker 2: The first today is Vietnam Veterans Day, and as we
Speaker 2: commemorated on the eighteenth of August, because it was on
Speaker 2: this day in a rubber plantation near Long Tan and
Speaker 2: South Yea Nam, that one hundred and eight Australian and
Speaker 2: New Zealand soldiers defeated an overwhelming force of some two
Speaker 2: thousand or two and a half thousand Vietcong and North
Speaker 2: Vietnamese troops. Outnumbered by roughly ten to one. The men
Speaker 2: of D Company fought for over three hours in heavy
Speaker 2: monsoonal rains, says the official war record, Precision artillery from
Speaker 2: New Zealand and Australian batteries, alongside risky helicopter ammunition drops,
Speaker 2: kept the small force alive until armored reinforcements turned up.
Speaker 2: The victory at Longtan halted a planned enemy assault on
Speaker 2: the nearby Australia Task Force base at Nui Dat, ensuring
Speaker 2: that the headquarters were never seriously threatened again. Eighteen Australians
Speaker 2: were killed in the Battle of Longtan, twenty four of
Speaker 2: our own were wounded.
Speaker 3: This is nineteen.
Speaker 2: Sixty six years ago. Today, un lest we forget, and
Speaker 2: those words lest we forget are not just a polite
Speaker 2: way to close out a memorial or military service, but
Speaker 2: said as a plea, as a pledge from one generation
Speaker 2: to the next, that the valor and sacrifice of those
Speaker 2: who put their lives on the line to defend our
Speaker 2: country and our values should stand forever in our history,
Speaker 2: that even decades on, they should be remembered, honored and respected.
Speaker 3: Respected.
Speaker 2: Now, I want you to keep that word top of
Speaker 2: mind as you listen to this today from a veteran,
Speaker 2: a former Air Force fighter pilot now doctor Tim Neilson,
Speaker 2: who is part of a broader group of veterans in
Speaker 2: Canberra this week urging the Albanese government to rethink its
Speaker 2: decision to cut their outs to medical support services.
Speaker 5: We're all here today because we have lost complete faith
Speaker 5: in the Department of Veteran Affairs. Yesterday confirmed that lack
Speaker 5: of leadership. It confirmed for us that lack of trust.
Speaker 5: Minister Keto was forced to have a meeting with us.
Speaker 6: At five point thirty.
Speaker 5: It was obvious he did not want to be there.
Speaker 5: He even let us know that he was missing an
Speaker 5: appointment with the Governor General, which he was.
Speaker 7: Very upset about.
Speaker 5: He walked into the room, refused to shake our hand,
Speaker 5: sat down with his arms crossed, and rolled his eyes
Speaker 5: when we started telling him about the effect that this
Speaker 5: cap already is having on veterans, about four veterans who
Speaker 5: have already committed suicide as a result of the introduction
Speaker 5: of the information of this cap. We have no confidence
Speaker 5: that the Department of Veteran Affairs will be able to
Speaker 5: instigate this cap and it needs to be scrapped.
Speaker 3: Right all right.
Speaker 2: This is the man they are talking about, the man
Speaker 2: upset to have missed drinks with the Governor General in
Speaker 2: order to meet these veterans. His name is Matt Keo,
Speaker 2: his Labour's Minister for Veterans, and until he was shamed
Speaker 2: in the House of Representatives yesterday, Keo wasn't even willing
Speaker 2: to meet with that delegation.
Speaker 8: Minister. These veterans have traveled to Parliament to be heard.
Speaker 8: Why have you refused to meet them? What or who
Speaker 8: could possibly possibly be more important?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: So embarrassed yesterday into doing his job, embarrassed into meeting
Speaker 2: with that delegation of veterans, Keo chose last night to
Speaker 2: keep up the insults, refusing to shake their hand, arms crossed.
Speaker 2: We were told, sulking away again, this is a veteran
Speaker 2: calling out the veterans minister.
Speaker 5: Minister Keyo was forced to have a meeting with us
Speaker 5: at five point thirty. It was obvious he did not
Speaker 5: want to be there. He even let us know that
Speaker 5: he was missing an appointment with the Governor General, which
Speaker 5: he was very upset about. He walked into the room,
Speaker 5: refused to shake our hand, sat down with his arms crossed,
Speaker 5: and rolled his eyes when we started telling him about
Speaker 5: the effect that this cap already is having on veterans.
Speaker 2: Again, Nelson is medical doctor but also a former fighter pilot.
Speaker 3: Understand this too.
Speaker 2: In that group with Nelson and others was also Julianne Finnie,
Speaker 2: the mom of a young naval officer, David Finny, who
Speaker 2: took his own life.
Speaker 3: Now you probably know her name.
Speaker 2: She was instrumental in the establishment of the recent Royal
Speaker 2: Commission into Defense and Veterans Suicide. Well, today she accused
Speaker 2: Matt Keo of beinglittling veterans and treating them with contempt.
Speaker 9: Why would anybody want to join the ADF with him
Speaker 9: as the Minister for Defense Personnel and the Minister for veterans.
Speaker 9: He doesn't care about them. Let's call him out, Prime Minister.
Speaker 9: The minister's position is untenable and he needs to go,
Speaker 9: and you need to meet with us. You promised me
Speaker 9: in opposition that you would look after veterans. You are
Speaker 9: failing us.
Speaker 2: Now we are told that not long after those scarifying comments,
Speaker 2: senior staff in the Prime Minister's office reached out to
Speaker 2: the group and offered to meet with them.
Speaker 3: Of course they did.
Speaker 2: They went into damage control, didn't they look at that vision?
Speaker 2: But where is the Prime Minister sanctioning his minister and
Speaker 2: where is the government reversing this terrible decision to cut
Speaker 2: support to veterans. Let's start with that budget decision in
Speaker 2: May to limit over servicing. They call it KEO, capped
Speaker 2: Allied health spending to each veteran at five one thousand
Speaker 2: dollars per annum. Now anyone, whether chronic health condition, be
Speaker 2: that physical or mental, or in the case of many veterans,
Speaker 2: both will you know it doesn't take you long for
Speaker 2: the bills to mount up claims of over servicing. I mean,
Speaker 2: these are our most vulnerable veterans, and yet this decision
Speaker 2: from KO is really going to hurt those who neither
Speaker 2: help the most. Look at the millions, the billions that
Speaker 2: we waste and have wrought it out of the NDIS,
Speaker 2: and yet we're caving spending on veterans at five thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2: And what galls me most here is that this Veterans
Speaker 2: Minister has falled. That KEO is the same blow that
Speaker 2: cut the very modest funding that Doug and k Baird
Speaker 2: had long received to travel to schools and RSL events
Speaker 2: to honor their son, the late war hero Cameron Bird,
Speaker 2: killed in action in Afghanistan. And now here goes again
Speaker 2: going after veterans. It's not as if Keo's careful with
Speaker 2: your money when it comes to what he spends on himself.
Speaker 2: In just the first three months of this year, matt
Speaker 2: Keo spent three hundred and sixty one thousand dollars on travel,
Speaker 2: including almost three thousand dollars to fly his wife from
Speaker 2: Perth to Sydney for a gay pride ball.
Speaker 3: That's on top of his four hundred thousand dollars salaries.
Speaker 2: Big Office sees car and all the other perks. At
Speaker 2: the start of question time today to commemorate Long Tan,
Speaker 2: we heard a lot of fine words from the Prime Minister.
Speaker 10: We also acknowledge that it took us too long as
Speaker 10: a nation to come to terms with a fundamental truth
Speaker 10: that we can disagree with the war without ever diminishing
Speaker 10: the profound respect we feel for every single Australian who
Speaker 10: puts on our uniform and serves in our name.
Speaker 2: You heard those words, but they mean little if Albanezy
Speaker 2: continues to tolerate mat Keo's clear contempt for veterans. Mat
Speaker 2: Keo's contempt is the Albanese government's contempt unless the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister does something about Keyo. If the Prime Minister says
Speaker 2: he respects the uniform he respects veterans, then it needs
Speaker 2: to show it and sack Keyo immediately. If KEYO stays,
Speaker 2: Albanese is endorsing this contempt and he's endorsing the cuts.
Speaker 2: Here is Queensland MP Phil Thompson, himself a veteran today
Speaker 2: in the House.
Speaker 6: Earlier this year the Minister had to be drag kicking
Speaker 6: and screaming to restore funding to Darg and k Bird,
Speaker 6: the parents of slaying Victoria Cross recipient Cameron Baird vc MG.
Speaker 6: Yesterday the Minister had to be drag kicking and screaming
Speaker 6: to meet with veterans about his cruel cuts to their
Speaker 6: Allied healthcare. Will you now do the right thing, Minister
Speaker 6: and scrap the five thousand dollars Allied healthcare?
Speaker 2: In response, here is the bladder from the minister and
Speaker 2: I want you to notice, please the fact that he's
Speaker 2: struggling at the dispatch box to even look Phil Thompson
Speaker 2: in the face.
Speaker 11: Really look forward to him and members of the opposition
Speaker 11: and the veteran community, and the Allied health professional community
Speaker 11: and our ex service organizations engaging in the consultation around
Speaker 11: how we ensure better access to Allied health care if
Speaker 11: you're releasing a discussion paper shortly to fulfill that consultation process,
Speaker 11: engaging directly with veterans, and I look forward to the
Speaker 11: Shadow Minister's feedback as well as those are veterans, our
Speaker 11: esos and our practitioner, our practitioners.
Speaker 2: At outguartlessness. I'll speak to Phil Thompson shortly. But this
Speaker 2: isn't about mat Cho anymore yet again, this is now
Speaker 2: a test of character for the Prime Minister.
Speaker 3: Keo should resign.
Speaker 2: He should absolutely resign, and if he doesn't have the
Speaker 2: decency to walk in Albanies, he needs to get himself
Speaker 2: a backbone and sack him well. I mentioned at the
Speaker 2: top of the show that not long ago that gambling
Speaker 2: advertising legislation has passed the Lower House. Of course it's
Speaker 2: a majority vote down there, but it did have coalition support.
Speaker 2: Let's get the letters now from our political reporter Cam
Speaker 2: red and for the update, Cam, we had some coalition
Speaker 2: MPs across the floor, but it would have been a
Speaker 2: strong vote in support even with that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, very strong, Peter, it must be said. Angus Taylor
Speaker 12: has plicated most of the concerns that it's fair to
Speaker 12: say we're on both sides of his party room. There
Speaker 12: were still many advocating for stronger laws, some also saying
Speaker 12: that this was effectively an affront through individual liberty, that
Speaker 12: people should be responsible for themselves. This is government overreach. Ultimately, though,
Speaker 12: as we first reported on News twenty four, all but
Speaker 12: two had sided with the government to back these in
Speaker 12: the last few minutes. So Andrew Wallace pat Conahan were
Speaker 12: the two that crossed the floor. They said just on conscience.
Speaker 12: They believe that these laws were too weak, that's the
Speaker 12: word pat Conahan used, and they could not support it.
Speaker 12: But ultimately, this is largely by part as an effort, Peter.
Speaker 12: It'll see things like, for example, three ads an hour
Speaker 12: for most of the day, there'll be a total blackout
Speaker 12: during children's programming, and a ban on on demand gambling
Speaker 12: advertising as well. So if you're sleeping on Sunday morning,
Speaker 12: you've got to watch Andrew Clenel on Sunday Agenda on repeat.
Speaker 12: There'll be no gambling ads during that on demand streaming.
Speaker 12: So this will go through the House. Will it's now gone.
Speaker 12: Tomorrow morning, it'll be ticked off in the Senate, and
Speaker 12: then by tomorrow AVO it will be law.
Speaker 2: All Right, we've got some other bills too, but I'll
Speaker 2: get to those with your colleague anew right.
Speaker 3: Now, thank you, Cam. Let's bring him in now.
Speaker 2: News twenty four political letter to Andrew Clenell. We'll start
Speaker 2: with the veterans, Andrew, because you went pretty hard on
Speaker 2: this today in your program this afternoon, in this appalling
Speaker 2: treatment by Matt Keo.
Speaker 3: He has got form. I'll get to that in a moment.
Speaker 2: But you in interviewed one of the meet in the
Speaker 2: room because Keyo sort of gas lighted them in the
Speaker 2: response today in the house, you interviewed someone that was there,
Speaker 2: and I want to play it now.
Speaker 3: Let's listen.
Speaker 13: We went into his office, we sat down before he arrived.
Speaker 13: On entering, he said hello, went took his seat and said,
Speaker 13: what are you guys here for? So that was the
Speaker 13: way the meeting started. Being the Minister of both Defense
Speaker 13: Personnel and the Minister of Veterans Affairs, I feel Minster
Speaker 13: Keo as an obligation to show some respect and to
Speaker 13: also lead, which is a big thing. Minister Ko's failing
Speaker 13: to do so.
Speaker 7: So his officer said to me he didn't want to
Speaker 7: trouble you guys to stand. Okay, I'll see your reaction
Speaker 7: to that and that he shook all your hands on
Speaker 7: the way out. What do you say to that?
Speaker 13: Mate. We've met with various politicians and political and media
Speaker 13: people what we've been here, and including labor politicians who
Speaker 13: were great, they were gracious. Everyone has shook the hands
Speaker 13: of the veterans. Everyone has spoken to us with respect
Speaker 13: and we've shown respect. But it was a different scenario
Speaker 13: with Minister Keo. There is a disdain that I think
Speaker 13: when you speak to the veteran community and those serving.
Speaker 13: It's been obvious since he was appointed minister.
Speaker 7: What happened though in that meeting? Did he listen to
Speaker 7: your concerns about the Allied healthcare cap? Did he express
Speaker 7: any sympathy?
Speaker 13: No sympathy at all. He actually said to us at
Speaker 13: one stage that you know, if we see a veteran
Speaker 13: going through a process rehabilitation and say, after twelve treatments
Speaker 13: there's been no improvement, why would we continue this?
Speaker 2: All right, Andrew, we've been around a long time. How
Speaker 2: does he stay in the role.
Speaker 7: Is Matt Keo an idiot? Is he a manchild? What
Speaker 7: is this guy's problem? I mean, what a moron? And
Speaker 7: you know I don't use this language lightly with ministers.
Speaker 7: You've known me for a long time, Peter.
Speaker 3: Yes I have.
Speaker 7: But I'm so stunned and shocked by this, you know,
Speaker 7: the lack of empathy, the stupidity, the political stupidity, and
Speaker 7: the arrogance and the stubbornness. You know, I reported on
Speaker 7: Sunday Agenda these guys were coming to Parliament to do
Speaker 7: this with cross Bench, with the opposition, and to you know,
Speaker 7: the first thing that office has to do and that
Speaker 7: minister has to do is go right, we're meeting these people.
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter if they're up there with other MPs.
Speaker 7: You know what has this Matt Keo guy done his life?
Speaker 7: Push paper? These people have had bullets fight at them.
Speaker 7: They have real life trauma from their time serving us,
Speaker 7: You and me and every viewer out there. And this
Speaker 7: clown Matt Ko thinks he can refuse a meeting with
Speaker 7: them to go to a governor general ceremony. Now I met.
Speaker 7: I was introduced to four of these guys yesterday afternoon
Speaker 7: here in the corridor, Peter. The first thing I did
Speaker 7: was shake every one of those four guys hands, and
Speaker 7: they were very polite guys because out of respect. And
Speaker 7: he goes into that meeting, he doesn't shake their hands
Speaker 7: and he sits down, he folds his arms. Now he
Speaker 7: sort of you know sometimes you know, people can get
Speaker 7: beat up on ministers. In terms of the one side
Speaker 7: of account of this meeting. He said he didn't want
Speaker 7: to stand, he shook their hands at the end.
Speaker 9: Whatever.
Speaker 7: But I listened to all these veterans. I don't think
Speaker 7: they're all making it up. They all had the same
Speaker 7: feeling in that room, and they were already on the
Speaker 7: back foot because he hadn't given them a meeting. And
Speaker 7: surely PMO has intervened here, and surely there are people
Speaker 7: in the Prime Minister's office watching this broadcast right now
Speaker 7: who have the same view of Matt Keo's conduct in
Speaker 7: this matter as me. Now, this is one of the
Speaker 7: problems with this political sort of federal system. They don't
Speaker 7: have a lot of talent in WA the Labor Party,
Speaker 7: they've got a lot of talent and places like New
Speaker 7: South Wales and Victoria. But because the system in the ministry,
Speaker 7: they have to have WA representation or a certain number
Speaker 7: from each statement. Seems to me that's the only reason
Speaker 7: Matt KO, even though he seems to have a high
Speaker 7: opinion of himself is essentially in that job. And the
Speaker 7: other main point I wanted to come on and say
Speaker 7: to you tonight, Peter, in relation to this, we've seen
Speaker 7: this Anaka Wells travel business. We've seen it with this
Speaker 7: character now Matt Keo and his disrespect for veterans and
Speaker 7: what appears to be just in competence. Anthony Albanizi is
Speaker 7: letting the nation down by his stubbornness not to provide
Speaker 7: a scalp to either the media or the opposition or
Speaker 7: in one nation. These days, you've got to move ministers
Speaker 7: on when they're not up to it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 7: He did it with Claire O'Neill and he's good mate.
Speaker 7: Adam Giles, Sorry, Andrew Johns, he moved, yes, but at
Speaker 7: least he moved them out of there once he went
Speaker 7: to a reshuffle. But it just seems to me, look,
Speaker 7: sometimes you just got to drop people, and he's never
Speaker 7: done it now. John Howe did it a heap and
Speaker 7: then he stopped doing it as well. But even Reith
Speaker 7: was shown the door after the Telegut affair. Peter Reith, really,
Speaker 7: so eventually you've just got to be a leader and
Speaker 7: show these ministers that there is some accountability. See Elbow's
Speaker 7: big on loyalty. It's his number one thing. But you
Speaker 7: don't get the best performance from this cabinet for this
Speaker 7: country with loyalty. We're just rewarding loyalty no matter the
Speaker 7: caliber of the performance.
Speaker 2: But you also have to be very, very careful in
Speaker 2: this portfolio for a couple of reasons. One veterans anyone
Speaker 2: in the defense portfolio areas, whether they're in a uniform
Speaker 2: or had once worn a uniform, want to see leadership,
Speaker 2: want to see respect, and will not tolerate weakness. So
Speaker 2: that's a big problem both for the Prime Minister and
Speaker 2: obviously for mat Keo the.
Speaker 3: Blow CAAs form.
Speaker 2: I'll get to his form in a moment. With Phil Thompson.
Speaker 2: When you stuff up and you keep stuffing up, eventually
Speaker 2: the problem becomes your boss, who won't take action as
Speaker 2: opposed to.
Speaker 3: Just your repeated errors. But also.
Speaker 2: Thousands of meetings I've had in that building with external players.
Speaker 2: I've been there with ministers, I've been there with people
Speaker 2: in opposition, and I've had plenty of meetings of my own.
Speaker 3: I don't think I have ever.
Speaker 2: Walked into a room and not shaken the hands or
Speaker 2: at least put my hand out to shake someone's hand. Now,
Speaker 2: the idea of all the people who will come in
Speaker 2: the door that you do not do that to veterans
Speaker 2: that you set on your hands with veterans, they are
Speaker 2: people that have spent their entire lives working in a
Speaker 2: command structure that is very orthodox when it comes to
Speaker 2: symbolism and respect. So for him to walk in and look, yes,
Speaker 2: he's made a decision. He will argue why he needs
Speaker 2: to have this cap in place. He has to have
Speaker 2: basically the balls to look the soldiers in the eye
Speaker 2: and the veterans in the eye and defend that decision. Now,
Speaker 2: if you can't, if you won't have the meeting, you
Speaker 2: don't deserve to have the job. And I looked at
Speaker 2: him in the chamber, Andrew, and it was gutlessness. He
Speaker 2: had his head down at the dispatch box. He didn't
Speaker 2: even have the gumption to look across the aisle at
Speaker 2: the opposition.
Speaker 3: He's looking up in the gallery, he's looking up in
Speaker 3: the lights.
Speaker 2: He is not able to face his opponents because he
Speaker 2: is shamed, and he should be shamed.
Speaker 7: Sometimes they're just not up to it, right, I mean,
Speaker 7: you would have seen it.
Speaker 3: You start to a.
Speaker 7: Promister minister and you think this person will be okay,
Speaker 7: and then you see it and you go, oh no,
Speaker 7: they're hopeless. It must be a horrible feeling for that
Speaker 7: to be the case. And I think we've just seen
Speaker 7: Matt Kayo's moment. What's he going to be remembered for this?
Speaker 7: Wow to.
Speaker 3: I know your point.
Speaker 2: I know your point about w A and you're absolutely right,
Speaker 2: particularly with labor because they're all the factional factional nuances
Speaker 2: that go into that mix as well. But this is
Speaker 2: now drag taking the Prime minister down, This is dragging
Speaker 2: his government down. Labor already have a less than optimal
Speaker 2: view amongst defense and veteran personnel. A lot of them
Speaker 2: are looking at what's gone on in relation to the
Speaker 2: Breton Inquiry and Ben Roberts Smith and others versus the
Speaker 2: last straw for many.
Speaker 7: Well, I just think a guy like pack Gorman, even
Speaker 7: like Pac Gorman's never going to behave himself like that
Speaker 7: if you gave him the job. He's from Western Australia,
Speaker 7: He's never going to carry on like Matt ko just has. Hey,
Speaker 7: the drivers, there's got to be options there. Yeah, Well
Speaker 7: that's true. That's very true. And yeah, I mean you've
Speaker 7: got to be respectful to stakeholders. You know that is
Speaker 7: a long time seenior staff for In fact, one stakeholder
Speaker 7: once said they went to a meeting with you and
Speaker 7: Helen Coonan and it seemed like you were the minister,
Speaker 7: not Helen Coonon. But notwithstanding that, Peter, you know how
Speaker 7: to treat these people, and you treat them with respect.
Speaker 7: You treat them as you would be a treatd even
Speaker 7: before you get to the fact that they're a special
Speaker 7: class because they're veterans. And you know, he just looks
Speaker 7: like he's coming and had a big sook. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's just unbelievable. And then I had this story today
Speaker 7: about there was a sculpture at the War Memorial that's
Speaker 7: got his name on it dedicated by him when Matt
Speaker 7: Fistltwaite had to do it because he had to go
Speaker 7: to India. The minister Matt ka So it's kind of like,
Speaker 7: why's your name on it? Why didn't you get why
Speaker 7: didn't you and your staff get that sorted? Because that's
Speaker 7: inaccurate and it's about soldiers having experienced trauma. A sculpture
Speaker 7: you didn't dedicate it someone filled in for you. So
Speaker 7: I just think there's a lot of hairs on this guy,
Speaker 7: and it isn't an important portfolio. It's a tough one.
Speaker 7: I also think, I mean, you might be able to
Speaker 7: educate me on this, but I would say that he
Speaker 7: was asked to make savings, as all ministers were. The Department,
Speaker 7: the DVA have given him a list and instead of
Speaker 7: having the brains to go, if I do that allied
Speaker 7: health thing, or if I do that other thing on
Speaker 7: travel entitlements for the VC parents, I'll get smashed. It's
Speaker 7: just gone, oh yeah, tick tick. That again shows incompetence.
Speaker 7: That again shows his name to it that he's a
Speaker 7: bit of a yes minister.
Speaker 2: But look at his own travel mate. If he flew
Speaker 2: at the back of the plane, he might save some money.
Speaker 2: Three hundred and forty thousand dollars. So three hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty one thousand dollars in just the first three months
Speaker 2: of the year alone. I know, if you really want
Speaker 2: to make savings, you can go through cut the department,
Speaker 2: cut some of the bureaucrats. Don't cut the frontline services
Speaker 2: in DBA, go through the back end.
Speaker 3: The back of us. Nah, look, let's leave him criticism.
Speaker 3: We'll leave him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, can I just say I will get off. I
Speaker 7: hope he's on the front page of every paper in
Speaker 7: the country tomorrow, this bloke, because he deserves to be.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 2: You're not often as tough as you are, but you're
Speaker 2: really fired up. So the Prime Minister, who I know,
Speaker 2: calls you often enough. I hope he gets the message
Speaker 2: to this bloke's got to go. We'll keep it up.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Andrew Clanew. I'm going to stay with this
Speaker 2: issue because I want to bring you now. Of course,
Speaker 2: well known to this program, philed Tom said he is
Speaker 2: the Shadow Minister for Defense Personnel, himself an Army veteran.
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister calls you a former veteran, mate, No
Speaker 2: one's a former veteran. If you are someone who's worn
Speaker 2: the Universe form.
Speaker 3: You are a veteran for life.
Speaker 2: We'll get to his treatment at this group in a moment,
Speaker 2: but take us through his form. Feel because this isn't
Speaker 2: his first clash with veterans since he got into the portfolio.
Speaker 2: It's almost like he's gone out of the way to
Speaker 2: hurt veterans.
Speaker 6: I absolutely agree with you, and from funding cuts to
Speaker 6: debarcles to putting his name on parks when he wasn't there.
Speaker 6: Now to refusing to meet with veterans, this guy continues
Speaker 6: just to fall upwards. It's ridiculous. Courage and conviction is
Speaker 6: what our veterans have, what they've faced, and sadly this
Speaker 6: is not what the Minister for Veterans Affairs has, the
Speaker 6: person who's supposed to.
Speaker 3: Be championing them.
Speaker 6: I want you to know Peter that tonight, and I
Speaker 6: hope that it gets picked up every I don't believe
Speaker 6: that mat Keo, the Minister for Veterans Affairs, should stay
Speaker 6: in his portfolio. I and every other veteran that I've
Speaker 6: spoken to have lost faith in his ability to support
Speaker 6: us as veterans, to put us first. Is nothing more
Speaker 6: than a party man, and he should be removed from
Speaker 6: this position.
Speaker 3: Tonight.
Speaker 2: I watched him and I mentioned this a moment ago.
Speaker 2: I watched him in the chamber today when you asked
Speaker 2: him questions and you had him on the ropes in
Speaker 2: question time, he couldn't even look you in the eye.
Speaker 6: No, and he has been like that for some time.
Speaker 6: He doesn't like getting asked hard questions. He responds. His
Speaker 6: response is always quite petty. If he gets a question,
Speaker 6: he does roll his eyes and he sits back in
Speaker 6: his scoffs, and then he comes over and he creates
Speaker 6: it a political partisan position around veterans issues that has
Speaker 6: never been the case previously under any other minister and
Speaker 6: any other government. I just don't think he likes veterans.
Speaker 6: I don't think he likes his portfolio. And it's clear
Speaker 6: by his actions he's out of his depth. He doesn't
Speaker 6: want this job, and you know what, I agree with him.
Speaker 6: I don't think he should have it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we talked about before the cutting of the
Speaker 2: money to the Bard family, and it was modest funding
Speaker 2: to support the RSL and to tell Cameron's story in schools.
Speaker 2: He tried to limit the deadlines on awarding of medals
Speaker 2: for valor to put applications in. He cut funding to
Speaker 2: the Invictus Games like this is a rap sheet that
Speaker 2: should shame anyone, just one of these items. And then
Speaker 2: he is obviously refused to meet with veterans help people
Speaker 2: understand why this cap is such a problem for veterans.
Speaker 6: Film So right now, if so, a veteran in townsll
Speaker 6: came to me and he has a postmaking stress disorder.
Speaker 6: He has a shoulder injury. In the injury and you
Speaker 6: know what, life just got tough and he's fallen over
Speaker 6: a bit and he's all these services, Allied health services.
Speaker 6: Now he will run out of this file or run
Speaker 6: over this five thousand a cap in a couple of
Speaker 6: months now. I've been in the dark place, and so
Speaker 6: have many veterans around the country. When you're looking up
Speaker 6: and all you can see in the dark hole is
Speaker 6: the little bit of light, which is the services you're getting.
Speaker 6: When that light gets taken away, what happens next. And
Speaker 6: I heard a veteran recently tell me that he won't
Speaker 6: be a burden for his family.
Speaker 3: This is a plan.
Speaker 6: This is going to create suicides, is going to create
Speaker 6: so much harm in our community. And for the minister
Speaker 6: to say, I'll just pick the phone up and call
Speaker 6: the department. I've got an insider in the department and
Speaker 6: they told me that it would take up to seven
Speaker 6: months for the extension of the five thousand dollars to
Speaker 6: be approved. This isn't good enough. This is such a
Speaker 6: failure and the veterans are going to be so worse
Speaker 6: off because of this incompetent minister.
Speaker 2: And we're talking there. When you say ELI services to
Speaker 2: people at home can follow me.
Speaker 3: We're talking about.
Speaker 2: Say physio, a bit of ot, psychiatric or psychological services.
Speaker 2: Because it's not just the physical stuff or the meant stuff.
Speaker 2: You rightly say, all of it can collide at the
Speaker 2: one time. And this is why an arbitrary cap doesn't
Speaker 2: work for veterans.
Speaker 6: Oh correct, you know the shoulder and jude to the knee,
Speaker 6: to the ankle, to the tendatus where my ears ring,
Speaker 6: to post traumatic stress disor when it's all on, it's on,
Speaker 6: and when it hurts, it hurts, and when you fall over.
Speaker 6: No veteran that I know is expecting a hand out.
Speaker 6: They want to hand up, and they're looking at a
Speaker 6: government that's just taking that away.
Speaker 2: Well, they burn the hand up. That should never be
Speaker 2: a question in a country like ours. If he'll keep
Speaker 2: it up, keep it up. I want to see him
Speaker 2: going by the end of the week. That's the least
Speaker 2: we can do for veterans tonight. Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 2: Now for the break how a convicted's child sex offender
Speaker 2: could stay in Australia after a psychologist argued he'd pose
Speaker 2: less of a risk of reoffending if he stayed here
Speaker 2: on a visa. It doesn't make sense, Senator Mikaylia cash
Speaker 2: coming up, welcome back rents up thirty percent. That's a
Speaker 2: prediction on the back of Labour's budget changes to housing
Speaker 2: and how the government, the federal government's using your tax
Speaker 2: dollars to fund the left wing ecosystem left that in
Speaker 2: a moment. Some research out today, But first an astounding
Speaker 2: report in the Australian. A convicted child sex offender, a
Speaker 2: fifty year old man from Sierra Leone, may get to
Speaker 2: stay in Australia after his psychologists argue before the Federal
Speaker 2: Court that he would pose less of a risk of
Speaker 2: reoffending if granted a permanent protection visa to stay in
Speaker 2: this country. The man arrived in Australia in twenty eleven
Speaker 2: on espousal visa. He abused a boy and was jailed.
Speaker 2: A year later, out of jail and then back in
Speaker 2: jail again two more counts of indecent assault. He then
Speaker 2: declares he's gay, so he can't be sent back to
Speaker 2: Sierra Leone because homosexuality is illegal, so he stays here
Speaker 2: in Australia and now he wants that to be declared
Speaker 2: as permanent.
Speaker 3: Here's the crazy part.
Speaker 2: The Federal Court heard testimony from therapist Graham Randall who
Speaker 2: noted that if this man, and we only know him
Speaker 2: as MF KF, if this man was provided a permanent visa,
Speaker 2: this would and I quote the therapist, provide a level
Speaker 2: of security that may reduce the risk of criminal or
Speaker 2: sexual offending, reducing the risk to the community. Well, joining
Speaker 2: me now to discuss this and more, Shadow Attorney General
Speaker 2: Kaylia Cash, So help me out here, Senator, how on
Speaker 2: earth does giving this bloke a protection visa to stay
Speaker 2: here reduce the risk of reoffending reduce the risk to
Speaker 2: this Australian community. Surely if we put him on a
Speaker 2: plane and send him back where he came from, that
Speaker 2: actually protects Australian children more than allowing him to stay.
Speaker 14: Well, Peter, I think Australians will have seen this story
Speaker 14: and think that our immigration system has gone stark, raving mad.
Speaker 14: This is a convicted child sex offender who has had
Speaker 14: his visa canceled. In other words, he has no right
Speaker 14: to be in our country, and yet now we're in
Speaker 14: this bizarre position of being told we need to consider
Speaker 14: whether giving the convicted child sex offender, permanent residency will
Speaker 14: reduce his risk of reoffending because he feels more secure. Peter,
Speaker 14: I have one fundamental principle. I stand up for the
Speaker 14: rights of children in our great country.
Speaker 3: I'm not here to ensure that.
Speaker 14: Convicted child sex offenders are given permanent residency to make
Speaker 14: them feel better. And my message to Tony Burke is
Speaker 14: very clear. You should be moving heaven and earth to
Speaker 14: ensure that this convicted child sex offender, who has no
Speaker 14: right to be here, is removed from our country.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, where is Tony Burke on this needs
Speaker 2: more laws? If he needs more powers your parliament actually correct,
Speaker 2: why does he talk to you and get what he needs?
Speaker 14: Absolutely, because you know where Tony Burke sits in relation
Speaker 14: to these types of laws. We've been very clear Tony
Speaker 14: Burke can't hide behind the law. If Tony Burke is
Speaker 14: saying the law is a problem in Australia in relation
Speaker 14: to the removal of this man, well tell Australians what
Speaker 14: powers and laws you need, Tony Burke, bring them to
Speaker 14: the Parliament and we will help you past them. Because
Speaker 14: at the end of the day, the role of the
Speaker 14: Australian government is to protect our children, not look out
Speaker 14: for convicted child sex offenders who have no right to
Speaker 14: be here. And that's why Angus Taylor and I and
Speaker 14: the rest of the team we are so passionate about
Speaker 14: the fact that under our plan we make no excuses,
Speaker 14: we will put Australians and Australian values first, victor child
Speaker 14: sex offenders who have no right, Peter to be in
Speaker 14: this country.
Speaker 3: You're a West Australian.
Speaker 2: Should Mat Keyo stay in his job as Veterans Minister?
Speaker 3: No, he shouldn't.
Speaker 14: And I think this goes directly to Anthony Alberesi, because
Speaker 14: Anthony Alberesi needs to answer one basic question. Does he
Speaker 14: believe Matt Keo, who has shown disrespect, disregard and contempt
Speaker 14: for the men and women of Australia who have been
Speaker 14: prepared to put their lives on the line for our
Speaker 14: great country and fight for our freedoms. Should he stay
Speaker 14: in his job? Does Anthony Albernesi believe those standards are
Speaker 14: befitting of a minister? I mean Matt Keo. This is
Speaker 14: one of the most privileged positions in Australia, being the
Speaker 14: Minister for Veterans Affairs, Matt Keyo is meant to be
Speaker 14: the champion for these people, meeting with them, listening to them,
Speaker 14: advocating for their best interests, and what does he do well?
Speaker 14: In the first instance, Remember when he decided to sign
Speaker 14: a brief that took away the travel entitlement of Cameron
Speaker 14: Baird's parents. What an absolute disgrace. What type of a
Speaker 14: sicko actually signs that brief? But to now hear the
Speaker 14: stories from the veterans a he wouldn't meet with them.
Speaker 14: Then when he was forced to meet with them, he
Speaker 14: refuses to shake their hands, He refuses to actually address
Speaker 14: their concerns. He rolls his eyes and says to them,
Speaker 14: I was actually meant to be at a meeting with
Speaker 14: the Governor General.
Speaker 3: Are you actually kidding me?
Speaker 14: This goes to the standard that Anthony Alberanizi expects from
Speaker 14: his ministers. Matt Keo has a pattern of behavior in
Speaker 14: relation to disrespecting the great men and women of Australia
Speaker 14: who have put their lives on the line for our country,
Speaker 14: and his position, quite frankly, is untenable. If he doesn't go,
Speaker 14: then Anthony ol Benezi needs to do the right thing
Speaker 14: by the veterans community in Australia and tell him you're gone.
Speaker 3: Not wrong there.
Speaker 2: I'll leave it there. Thank you said it a good
Speaker 2: win today too. On the widow's tapes. Finally, it shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been that hard to text, but we got it
Speaker 2: fixed out and we I.
Speaker 3: Will leave it there. After the break.
Speaker 2: You will not believe how much of your money has
Speaker 2: been handed to left wing activist organizations and how it's
Speaker 2: skewing our democracy.
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
Speaker 2: One point eight million visas handed out so the people
Speaker 2: can come to Australia study since Labor came to office. Wait,
Speaker 2: do we hear how many of them have come with
Speaker 2: their families who are not even studying here. The number
Speaker 2: show just how big this racket has become. But first
Speaker 2: you research from the Institute of Public Affairs. It's exposed
Speaker 2: the billions used by government each year to fund activists
Speaker 2: and build a so called progressive network to keep the
Speaker 2: left in power. The report is titled Stacking the Deck,
Speaker 2: and it's found that in just four years, across state
Speaker 2: and federal government, some two point two billion dollars that's
Speaker 2: in aggregate terms, has been spent funding one hundred select NGOs,
Speaker 2: all of them significantly engaged in areas of quote diversity
Speaker 2: and multiculturalism advocacy that's a billion, public health and nanny
Speaker 2: state advocacy that's six hundred million, welfare state advocacy and
Speaker 2: lawfare three hundred million, Indigenous co governance ninety million, and
Speaker 2: green advocacy one hundred and seventy million dollars.
Speaker 3: Join me here. One of the authors of the report, Research.
Speaker 2: Assistant at the IPA, Jordan abazaid, Wow, this was staggering.
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was that much money, and I
Speaker 2: guess using public funds like this two and a bit
Speaker 2: million billion dollars basically supports a who eco system that
Speaker 2: keeps labor in power, that references back to labor everything
Speaker 2: it wants to sell the community.
Speaker 15: Well, that's exactly right. We tracked a hundred of these
Speaker 15: different organizations, but it's more than one hundred. Those are
Speaker 15: just the ones we included in this report, and we
Speaker 15: found that through their registers with the Australian Charities Commission,
Speaker 15: that the government is funding all these kinds of NGOs
Speaker 15: that engage in progressive advocacy. One of the most egregious
Speaker 15: examples is the Federal Ethnic Communities Council's Alliance or Australian
Speaker 15: and they have been lobbying the Federal government for a
Speaker 15: Multicultural Act that would enshrine multiculturalism into Australian law, taking
Speaker 15: it out of the hands of Australians to decide and
Speaker 15: putting it into law. Additionally, when the Queensland government put
Speaker 15: a pause on puberty blockers, groups like Transcend Australia, which
Speaker 15: received over two million dollars from taxpayer, then lobbied against
Speaker 15: the government's change. And we're aggressively pushing back against that,
Speaker 15: and we think that's unfair.
Speaker 2: Do you think taxpayers have got any sense at how
Speaker 2: much their money is basically used to thwart things that
Speaker 2: they vote for each year. So they might vote in
Speaker 2: an election to have reduction in migration, or they might
Speaker 2: vote that a woman is a woman and a man
Speaker 2: is a man, and they don't want to go down
Speaker 2: the path of gender ideology. It's like this is undoing
Speaker 2: the democratic vote.
Speaker 15: It absolutely is. And a lot of Australians can often
Speaker 15: feel like their views are somehow misplaced, their views are
Speaker 15: somehow wrong or incorrect when they engage with these media institutions,
Speaker 15: these public institutions that tell them you know, they're a
Speaker 15: biggot because they believe men and men and women and women,
Speaker 15: or that they would like to see less immigration or
Speaker 15: anything like that. But what we're finding is this isn't
Speaker 15: a debate between citizens in Australia. One side of the
Speaker 15: debate has a whole bunch of government cash and are
Speaker 15: pretending like they're just like you.
Speaker 2: Well, we saw this with the Voice, right, so the
Speaker 2: majority of Australians ended up voting no. But you know,
Speaker 2: midway through the debate certainly that the funding was heavily
Speaker 2: weighted towards the S campaign. But the message from the
Speaker 2: S campaign was that.
Speaker 3: Everybody is agreeing with us. If you don't agree with us,
Speaker 3: you're an outlier.
Speaker 2: I think part of my concern with this is these
Speaker 2: fringed groups that reinforce the government's agenda, the left's agenda,
Speaker 2: make the silent majority feel that they're not the majority,
Speaker 2: when in fact they are.
Speaker 15: One of the things I report actually found was that
Speaker 15: funding two groups pushing for this sort of divisive treaties
Speaker 15: actually increased after the Voice rather than decreased, so they
Speaker 15: saw that Australians disagree with them and rather than the
Speaker 15: government going and I've heard what you have to say,
Speaker 15: I'm going to adapt. They've instead completely changed, not changed,
Speaker 15: rather they've amplified what they're doing to try and twist
Speaker 15: Australians viewpoints to something else.
Speaker 2: I presume this reports on the IPA website. I've got
Speaker 2: to ask you for a comment from you, Cared not
Speaker 2: Canevan on the weekend called for an audit of all
Speaker 2: of our international treaties and agreements etc. And even I
Speaker 2: was shocked to know that we're talking about four thousand
Speaker 2: international agreements that Australia signed up to that are pervasive
Speaker 2: and basically have got their sort of clause into our
Speaker 2: domestic laws.
Speaker 3: Do you think that's a good thing.
Speaker 15: Absolutely, I think it's a step in the right direction.
Speaker 15: I think first we need a full understanding of what
Speaker 15: we have actually signed up to, and then I think
Speaker 15: we need to start looking at it stepping out from
Speaker 15: many of these treaties. I think too often Australians feel
Speaker 15: ignored by their government, and they feel like the government
Speaker 15: cares more about what happens in Brussels than what happens
Speaker 15: in Bondai or Ballarat. And I think that ultimately Australians
Speaker 15: want them to focus on them not. International treaties are
Speaker 15: not wrong.
Speaker 3: Thank you Jordan. What on the research?
Speaker 2: I thought it was bad, but I didn't think it
Speaker 2: was two billion dollars bad. After the break, how the
Speaker 2: student visa system has become a raught under Labor, My
Speaker 2: panel is next, we'll go back. I just had a
Speaker 2: quick scroll through my phone and your messages flat again
Speaker 2: and like so many Australians, we all have some military
Speaker 2: connection in our lives. The anger towards mat Keo is
Speaker 2: absolutely extraordinary. Let's get into things with my panel now.
Speaker 2: Broadcaster Lucy Gazelle joins me, as she does every Tuesday night,
Speaker 2: and One Nation Senator.
Speaker 3: Sean Bell joins us as well. Tonight.
Speaker 2: Sean, I want to go first to your analysis One
Speaker 2: Nation analysis on these study visas. These are students undergraduates,
Speaker 2: but also graduate visas.
Speaker 3: Let's just call them students across the board.
Speaker 2: Under the last four years with LABOR, there's been a
Speaker 2: whopping three hundred and eighty five thousand spousans and children
Speaker 2: and others who have got visas to accompany the students
Speaker 2: to Australia. There's more than one point eight million people
Speaker 2: getting these student visas. I knew about the student numbers, mate,
Speaker 2: but I had no idea that we're close to four
Speaker 2: hundred thousand sort of family members here. And of course
Speaker 2: every time the student stays and moves from one course
Speaker 2: to another course and just you know, leap frogs their
Speaker 2: way around Australia, all of these other people stay.
Speaker 9: Peter.
Speaker 1: One nation's position on this is very clear. We believe
Speaker 1: that there are too many international students in Australia majoring
Speaker 1: in permanent residency. I mean, it's a joke the albanize
Speaker 1: and it's been enabled by the Albanese labor government because
Speaker 1: prior to the Albanese labor government, if an international student
Speaker 1: was found to be or suspected of using one of
Speaker 1: these visas to get permanent residency, they could lose their visa. Well,
Speaker 1: that clause was removed by the Albanese labor government because
Speaker 1: they were happy to have this lever to pull so
Speaker 1: they could use mass migration to prop up the economy
Speaker 1: that they were destroying. So look this because and this
Speaker 1: is not the type of this is not productive immigration.
Speaker 1: This is immigration that benefits labor through propping up GDP.
Speaker 1: It helps look after the university. These universities love it,
Speaker 1: but it is not to the benefit of the Australian people,
Speaker 1: and the Labor government must act. One nation is calling
Speaker 1: the Labor government on Tony Burke, step in fix the
Speaker 1: mistakes you have made, because every second you don't, Australians
Speaker 1: suffer the consequences.
Speaker 2: What's really important I want people to understand this at home, Lucy,
Speaker 2: is we have various arms, if I can call them that,
Speaker 2: to our immigration program. When someone applies to come here permanently,
Speaker 2: like perhaps your family did, we assess them as someone
Speaker 2: who's going to be a forever citizen in this country.
Speaker 2: So we absolutely run the ruler over them that the
Speaker 2: requirements are quite tough. But if you're coming here to study,
Speaker 2: we're just looking at your ability to do that course
Speaker 2: because we assume you're going to go home.
Speaker 3: We're not assuming you're.
Speaker 2: Going to leap froggy away from one visa class to
Speaker 2: another to then stay on indefinitely as an Australian.
Speaker 3: So this is the difference.
Speaker 2: So these people that stay that turn a student visa
Speaker 2: into a permanent outcome.
Speaker 3: I never checked. I never assessed in.
Speaker 2: The way that we do someone who wants to come
Speaker 2: here under a skilled visa program to be a forever Australian.
Speaker 16: You're absolutely right, Peter, great to be with you once again.
Speaker 16: And I think the broader points that also need to
Speaker 16: be made around this as well, with respect to some
Speaker 16: of the comments that Senator Hanson made were that this
Speaker 16: is effectively a scam. You've got universities now who are
Speaker 16: overly reliant on these foreign students, and many academics are
Speaker 16: pointing rightly to the fact that this is actually hollowing
Speaker 16: out their integrity and it's damaging them on an international
Speaker 16: scale in many ways in terms of their reputations. I mean,
Speaker 16: you only have to look at some of the wages
Speaker 16: of the vice chancellors in this country. Right down at
Speaker 16: the University of Canberra, you've got Bill Shorten on over
Speaker 16: eight hundred and sixty thousand. Meanwhile in Melbourne, at Flinder's University,
Speaker 16: the vice chancellor there is earning to the tune last
Speaker 16: year of over one point four million dollars. That's more
Speaker 16: than the vice hanselors at Oxford and Cambridge University, more
Speaker 16: than the pay packet of the Prime Minister.
Speaker 3: How can they justify this?
Speaker 16: And even worse still back in twenty twenty four, a
Speaker 16: series of over a dozen academics spoke to The Guardian
Speaker 16: and on the balance of annonymity and on that proviso,
Speaker 16: revealed that students international students were walking away with prestigious
Speaker 16: degrees that could barely speak basic English. This is something
Speaker 16: that needs to come to an end, and come to
Speaker 16: an end fast.
Speaker 3: See the thing is Shawn.
Speaker 2: Our universities, our highest ranked university is about number fifty
Speaker 2: two or fifty three in the world. Our universities are
Speaker 2: not in the top ten of the top twenty, but
Speaker 2: they're very, very popular because people aren't buying a degree,
Speaker 2: they're buying permanent residency.
Speaker 3: So that's the difference.
Speaker 2: That's why there is the demand, and that's why they
Speaker 2: don't care whether you learn English. That's why they always
Speaker 2: put an you know, an Australian kid in the group
Speaker 2: projects to do the work to help the foreign students
Speaker 2: get over the line, because they're paying for an outcome.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's obvious to everyone now is that under
Speaker 1: the Albanze Labor government there's no such thing as a
Speaker 1: temporary student visa. That's a misnomer. We should relabel these
Speaker 1: all pathway to permanent residency visas because that is the
Speaker 1: attention of the Albanese labor government. They're not interested in
Speaker 1: adding productive skills using these visas. They are simply interested
Speaker 1: in boosting the population as quickly as they can in
Speaker 1: order to prop up GDP. They don't care about the
Speaker 1: consequences it has on housing. They don't care that it's
Speaker 1: driving up rents, and they don't care about the strain
Speaker 1: that places that are infrastructure. They only care about how
Speaker 1: it benefits themselves.
Speaker 2: It was really passing strange in question time today in
Speaker 2: their house, Lucy, you had the National Australia Bank worn
Speaker 2: that rents could spike by as much as thirty percent
Speaker 2: over the next two years on the back of all
Speaker 2: the changes in barget But the Treasurer says nothing to
Speaker 2: say here Prime Minister saying well, I think the NAB
Speaker 2: have got it wrong. I don't think the NAB's got
Speaker 2: it wrong. I think the Housing Minister's got it wrong.
Speaker 2: I think our treasurer has got it wrong, But I
Speaker 2: don't think the bank's got it wrong.
Speaker 3: How's it, po.
Speaker 16: Oh that they've got it wrong is because history has
Speaker 16: been our greatest teacher when it comes to these types
Speaker 16: of changes we saw back in nineteen eighty five. They
Speaker 16: tried to introduce similar changes, and what happened. Rent skyrocketed
Speaker 16: across all of the major capital cities and they had
Speaker 16: to reverse it. In nineteen eighty seven. New Zealand similarly
Speaker 16: followed suit our neighbors in you know, I think it
Speaker 16: was twenty twenty or thereabouts under Jacinda Ardern and then
Speaker 16: they too had to reverse those changes.
Speaker 3: They don't work.
Speaker 16: And every time this foolish labor government thinks that they
Speaker 16: can do it better. Our self declared Prime Minister who
Speaker 16: you know, when he was elected to the seat of
Speaker 16: grain La, clared himself as a democratic socialist. They think
Speaker 16: they can do it better than everybody else. Just take
Speaker 16: a look at what these policy changes have enacted throughout
Speaker 16: history and you will learn that they fail. Nab is
Speaker 16: right to predict this because we've seen it happen in
Speaker 16: the past. Never mind the fact they issued a clarification
Speaker 16: and said, well it wasn't a forecast. They're looking at
Speaker 16: who's lending. They're looking at the fact that home applications
Speaker 16: are down.
Speaker 3: And I'm a renter.
Speaker 16: I'll tell you now, it's a brutal market out there.
Speaker 16: Rent has already gone up this year and if you
Speaker 16: are kicked out to the curb. Try finding a place
Speaker 16: to live or to rent in this city where there
Speaker 16: aren't twenty to thirty families lining up ahead of you.
Speaker 16: It's a disgrace and it's only going to get worse,
Speaker 16: with or without NAB's prediction.
Speaker 3: I know that. I can tell you. We're feeling it
Speaker 3: on the ground. Yeah, it's a shocking state of affairs.
Speaker 3: I'll leave it there, both of you. Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's it for me tonight. It's been a busy show.
Speaker 2: That's Seve mckel last the week. Let's hope he doesn't.
Speaker 2: To all the Vietnam veterans out there and their families
Speaker 2: and those that love them, that stood with them when
Speaker 2: times were tough, I see you, I hear you.
Speaker 3: I honor your service. See you tomorrow night. Here's Andrew