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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitz and Whipper podcast. Good to

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Speaker 1: see you guys again.

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Speaker 2: It is so long?

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Speaker 3: How long since you went home?

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Speaker 1: Five years?

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Speaker 4: God?

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Speaker 5: You know, I hate to take off air conversations to honor,

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Speaker 5: But what were you just saying before we went to Look?

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Speaker 1: I was a really big fan of you on Celebrity Apprentice.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to bring that.

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Speaker 6: You were my favorite, and I do really think you

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Speaker 6: should have won. Controversial, but you were. You were just magnificent.

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Speaker 2: They took the show off here he was on it.

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Speaker 1: No, they didn't because they asked me to be on it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I almost did. I almost did, and.

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Speaker 2: I did great on that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems very stressful, massive commitment me.

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Speaker 2: Some of the reality shows that you've been asked to

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Speaker 2: do over.

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Speaker 6: The years, well, Dancing with the Stars, which will never

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Speaker 6: happen because I cannot dance, the singing one, the Lass singer,

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Speaker 6: and you've been.

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Speaker 2: Out of the jungle. I'm a celebrity.

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Speaker 3: I have probably a hundred times.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think i'd actually be quite good at that one.

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Speaker 2: Farmer Wants a Wife? Have you been asked? No?

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Speaker 6: But I'd probably do that one because I'm so close

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Speaker 6: to you just asked me again taking an off air

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Speaker 6: conversation on it. But you asked me if I still

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Speaker 6: live in LA and I'm so close to buying a farm.

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Speaker 1: I'm just so ready to buy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I've been looking and I want a farm

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Speaker 6: and all my dogs and animals, and so I could

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Speaker 6: be farmer, and farmer wants a wife.

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Speaker 5: When you're in Sydney, you think about farmland, and I

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Speaker 5: love it. But the Southern Highlands, of course, which you

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Speaker 5: don't have a phenomenal farmland in life. Where in LA

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Speaker 5: do you go for farmland?

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Speaker 6: It would be like like a New York up north.

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Speaker 6: But the thing is, i'd actually rather be back home.

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Speaker 6: But the problem is I have three dogs and they're

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Speaker 6: all a little special. One can't walk, one's blind, and

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Speaker 6: I don't think that they'll even get through team.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think they literally send them back instantly.

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Speaker 3: You'd like the Johnny Depp. Yeah, Johnny Depp, that was.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite videos.

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Speaker 2: So you would honestly think about coming home You're home, see.

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Speaker 6: I am very homes Yeah, come home, Yeah, I would

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Speaker 6: love to. I just I've got to figure out the

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Speaker 6: dog thing, you know, I really, But I would.

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Speaker 3: I would love to be toinga. We work with the

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Speaker 3: government on Ruby Roses Dogs. Please if you get on that.

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Speaker 1: I heard you, guys. You guys to the dogs.

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Speaker 3: Famous for it.

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Speaker 2: You are an ambassador.

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Speaker 4: This is a great partnership that you have here with

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Speaker 4: Hilton and a charity organization called Minus eighteen. Now it's

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Speaker 4: a new initiative that aims to give more lgbt QI

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Speaker 4: A plus young people in Australia the right to free,

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Speaker 4: inclusive and empowering school formals. This is a really special

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Speaker 4: thing for you that you want to get involved. So

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Speaker 4: are these special events that you're putting on for for

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Speaker 4: these kids that feel like they're excluded from these things?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 6: And actually so I'm sort of the ambassador for the

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Speaker 6: Hilton relationship with Minus eighteen, which is an ongoing relationship,

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Speaker 6: And what they're doing is the fundraiser tomorrow, the sort

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Speaker 6: of a gala I'm DJing.

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Speaker 1: Which I also haven't done in seven years. Adam, just

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Speaker 1: a baller of this energy.

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Speaker 2: Give us one song that gets the dance floor going.

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Speaker 2: What's one song?

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Speaker 1: Ah? You know what? Because it's it's a queer event.

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Speaker 6: A g flip I've put together a little remix for

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Speaker 3: I just love that so good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this how many kids have you got going

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Speaker 4: to this event?

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Speaker 2: Is it? Well?

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Speaker 6: I think the event, this event that I'm doing tomorrow

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Speaker 6: will go to eighteen and then what will happen then

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Speaker 6: is there'll be the formals will come after that.

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Speaker 1: I hope I can also come back to DJ four.

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Speaker 6: But when I was offered, I was doing in the

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Speaker 6: also thought that I would be performing to all these

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Speaker 6: underage kids, and then I found out it's like a

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Speaker 6: very form you know, it's like a gala and there

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Speaker 6: are like certain people there. But I had painstakingly removed

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Speaker 6: all the swear words out of and anything inappropriate out

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Speaker 6: of every single song, and now all these people are

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Speaker 6: and there's like, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm so so there's that.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, it's mostly to raise awareness and also just

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Speaker 6: to let people know that, you know, when you're traveling,

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Speaker 6: the Hilton is a place that you can go.

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Speaker 1: It's inclusive.

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Speaker 6: They have people that are working there that are queer

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Speaker 6: in places like India and China. You know, it is

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Speaker 6: really tricky when you're traveling overseas as a queer person,

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Speaker 6: to say the least, to not know if the hotel

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Speaker 6: going to allow you to stay there in the same

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Speaker 6: room as someone that you're with. And I had a

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Speaker 6: similar thing happened in Israel recently, but it was fine

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Speaker 6: because it was with my best friend. But we were

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Speaker 6: just getting, you know, a hotel and we're just going

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Speaker 1: Beds and we were like, oh yeah, of course, all right,

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Speaker 6: But you know, but they were wonderful and actually Israel

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Speaker 6: and Tel Aviv is actually incredibly LGBTQ friendly, which was

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Speaker 6: so surprising to me. But the hotel did make me laugh.

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Speaker 6: So it's a nice This is ongoing in the way

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Speaker 6: that also Minus eighteen are helping them with formals that

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Speaker 6: do you get held at the Hilton by giving them

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Speaker 6: sort of guidelines helping the school figure out like how

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Speaker 6: do I to support people so they feel free and happy?

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Speaker 4: In your day, you wouldn't have had that. Do you

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Speaker 4: have memories of your former Did you have one?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was trying to remember this clearly, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: I don't wore certainly didn't wear a dress.

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Speaker 6: I wore a white suit, yeah, which is just a

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Speaker 6: terrible idea. And I had a faux hawk, blonde faux

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Speaker 6: I don't think I was actually invited because I just

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't the school's fault. It just was sort

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Speaker 6: I just have a distinct memory of turning up not

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Speaker 6: popular girls like reading out the sort of awards, you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't know why I'm here, I don't know what

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to prove. And then I remember leaving very

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Speaker 6: early I don't remember dancing or anything, but I do

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Speaker 6: have horrible.

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Speaker 1: Photos that you know, I'll live with my life.

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Speaker 3: We all go through it. I wore a novelty bow

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Speaker 2: Was a water pistol.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you would do.

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Speaker 2: That now, would not?

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Speaker 3: I would not do that. Now. I'm just looking back

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Speaker 3: and I go, hey, how are you going? Squirt squawk?

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Speaker 3: What a loser? Thanks, I'll do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably looked like it. Just a hot guy.

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Speaker 2: I had a yellow cumber bun.

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Speaker 1: And what is the cumber bun?

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Speaker 5: That's the big that's you got to get your wording right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: cumber bump.

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Speaker 4: And it's like it's like a it's like a a

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Speaker 4: silk belt that goes around there, you know, memon and.

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Speaker 7: So like.

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Speaker 3: Martial arts.

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Speaker 7: It's thick silk straps. It's a formal it's a formal

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Speaker 7: accessory that men wear. I got it from Ferrari Formal

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Speaker 7: where I hide the suit, and I asked two girls

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Speaker 7: I felt off the back of the ute and injured myself.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's brilliant.

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Speaker 2: My shoulder was stuffed at the form of I'm now.

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Speaker 6: Seeing a photo of a cup of I've never seen

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Speaker 6: that in my life, and I don't know who came up.

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Speaker 1: With that, but that's a terrible idea.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why it's called a cumba.

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Speaker 1: It looks like it's like a waiter.

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Speaker 2: Is horrible.

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Speaker 1: Wipe your hands.

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Speaker 4: It was horrific, and I had hair back then. I

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Speaker 2: Robes.

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Speaker 6: Oh, man, do you think maybe those two girls went together?

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Speaker 1: I think that could be.

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Speaker 3: The moral of the story.

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Speaker 2: That could be it. I think you've summed it up

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Speaker 5: There was another story about you down at the local

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Speaker 5: beach too, wasn't there with the crumbson?

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Speaker 3: No, not with that sort of damaged your reputation little bit.

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Speaker 2: We're talking your career at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Because that did sound quite that later fifty crumb sausage.

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Speaker 1: So you know you can go very early in the

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Speaker 4: So are you working on anything in the moment? Movies,

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Speaker 6: I yes, all the things right, So I just finished

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Speaker 6: al and then started another film that I just finished

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Speaker 6: two days ago, Flew to La Flew straight.

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Speaker 3: Here, the one in Greece, the one in.

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Speaker 6: Greece, Yeah, and a bit of in Bulgaria as well,

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Speaker 6: And that was with Ada Green, who was just sensational amble. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's probably the first film I've done where I feel like.

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Speaker 1: And this is not to discredit my previous work.

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Speaker 6: But it was a real acting piece and I felt

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Speaker 6: there's just a lot of things that have changed in

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Speaker 6: the last of five ten years, and I feel like

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Speaker 6: a very different person.

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Speaker 1: I also have access to my emotions now, which is

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Speaker 1: why I get so much more nervous.

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Speaker 6: I had a meltdown on having the Today Show this

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Speaker 6: morning on whatever that.

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Speaker 2: Because this is the first reviews you've done for a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a lot more private now. It's me, my dogs,

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Speaker 1: and I love acting.

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Speaker 6: But the personality side of it and the press side

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Speaker 6: of it I find a little bit daunting.

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Speaker 4: And is that why you've written the book, Is that

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Speaker 4: you wanted to share everything?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you were private about before.

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Speaker 1: Sort of, I do want to.

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Speaker 6: What it will be is it's not so much to

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Speaker 6: It's it's really important to me that I do clarify

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Speaker 1: And you know, there's some things that I do want.

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Speaker 4: We needed to about your previous relationships as well, because

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Speaker 1: Roots, Yeah, because that's what I was writing about at

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Speaker 1: I was, I, you know, And so that's why I

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Speaker 6: Really is and what matters to me to kind of

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Speaker 6: Of here's it's it's sort of here are some things

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Speaker 4: And how do you think it will be received though

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Speaker 4: from previous relationships, because I mean, you did say the truth.

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Speaker 4: It will piss a lot of people off. But maybe

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Speaker 3: Oh you want chapter five of the Veronicas? Is that

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Speaker 1: Actually?

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Speaker 6: The that isn't all about those girls, the bit that

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Speaker 3: Exactly hard to do, right, to go back and go

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Speaker 6: Very and I shouldn't have been doing it, you know,

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Speaker 6: seeing that picture, it just I realized how and I

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Speaker 6: You fix perfect yeah three yeah, yeah, yeah right, And

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Speaker 6: Controversialized for things that didn't happen, because that's just.

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Speaker 1: How you know, the Hollywood industry can be.

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Speaker 6: And there's just a lot that I've stayed silent on

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