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Speaker 1: On Scoring Lives Australia. This is the Wider Panalty Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Patty Show. Coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight, President Donald Trump announces a cease fire. Will

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Speaker 2: this be the end of the twelve day war? Kosher

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Speaker 2: Gata will be with me shortly to discuss Security experts

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Speaker 2: warn Australian teenagers may become radicalized due to the conflict

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East. The panel will weigh in on

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Speaker 2: that issue and much more. We will look at some

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Speaker 2: new research showing the dangers of medicalized transgender treatments. And

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Speaker 2: we'll also look at the radical socialists who may be

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Speaker 2: elected mayor of New York and left He's losing. It

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Speaker 2: is full of good news tonight, including the musings of

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Speaker 2: international law expert and view co host Sunny Austin.

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Speaker 3: I believe this is certainly a clear violation of international

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Speaker 3: law at the very least.

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Speaker 2: But first, the conflict in the Middle East has raised

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Speaker 2: alarm bells about homegrown terrorism on Australian soil. Security experts

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Speaker 2: have worn vulnerable Australian teenagers are at risk of being

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Speaker 2: radicalized and becoming gey hardest acting Opposition Foreign Affairs spokesman

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Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty has also warned about the Iranian regime engaging

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Speaker 2: in foreign interference.

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Speaker 4: I think the Kods Force, which is the unconventional special

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Speaker 4: operations wing of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, very methodical.

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Speaker 5: Very patient.

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Speaker 4: There's something we've got to watch very closely. And there's

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Speaker 4: the reason why Mike Burgess, the Director General of ASIO,

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Speaker 4: mentioned the Iranians in his annual threat update, particularly around

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Speaker 4: foreign interference.

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Speaker 2: So this is a risk for.

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Speaker 4: The US particularly, but also allies as well.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in the panel. We've got Sky News contributors

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Speaker 2: Tina McQueen and Prue McSween teena. I'll start with you.

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Speaker 2: We saw scores of Australian residents travel to the Middle

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Speaker 2: East to join the Caliphate, to join Islamic State. Do

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Speaker 2: you think there's any risk this conflict will see the

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Speaker 2: same thing happen. We'll see young people become radicalized.

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Speaker 6: Oh, sadly, there is a big risk, greader. You've only

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Speaker 6: got to look at the protests on the weekend, the

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Speaker 6: pro Palestine now pro Iranian protests all through the Sydney CBD,

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Speaker 6: the elevated attacks on the Jewish community community in different areas.

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Speaker 6: So there's a big risk. I think this has to

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Speaker 6: be closely monitored in Australia and I'm sure they have

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Speaker 6: the methods and know how to do that, but that

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Speaker 6: is they get so it seem to be excited by

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Speaker 6: this rita and forget that they're Australians living in Australia.

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Speaker 6: It's really sad to see and I don't know how

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Speaker 6: we're going to combat this.

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Speaker 2: Pre and internationally we've already seen incidents. Is that Mixed

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Speaker 2: State has claimed credit for a terror plot in Syria

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Speaker 2: where a suicide bomba killed twenty two people at a

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Speaker 2: Christian church in Damascus over the weekend. We've been so

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Speaker 2: lucky in this country, really, haven't we prove in that

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Speaker 2: major terror plots have been foiled before they've been executed.

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Speaker 2: We may not always be that lucky.

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Speaker 7: Well that's the problem, you know, and luck shouldn't be

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Speaker 7: a factor, should it reta? But I just fail to

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Speaker 7: understand why government hasn't acted on these radical imams who

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Speaker 7: are poisoning the young minds. That this is the greatest source,

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Speaker 7: I believe of homegrown terror and we've seen that with

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Speaker 7: past examples, and we are aware that homegrown terrorism.

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Speaker 6: Is there, and we have been lucky, but how long will.

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Speaker 8: That luck last?

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Speaker 2: Now? The E Safety Commissioner is continuing her push for

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Speaker 2: greater online shep Are you recall she tried to get

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Speaker 2: a worldwide ban on that alleged terror attack at a

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Speaker 2: Christian church in Sydney last year. Well, now she wants

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Speaker 2: YouTube added to the government's social media ban for under sixteen.

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Speaker 2: It's a survey by the E Safety Commissioner earlier this

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Speaker 2: year found that YouTube was the most used platform by

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Speaker 2: ten to fifteen year olds by a significant margin. And

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Speaker 2: Julie Inman grant Tina. She's arguing in her speech at

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Speaker 2: the National Press Club today that around seven to ten

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Speaker 2: kids report being exposed to harmful online content, such as

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Speaker 2: what she thinks is misogynistic or hateful material. What's your

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Speaker 6: Oh, look, I think, you know, I think I think

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Speaker 6: some sort of ban would be great for under sixteens,

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Speaker 6: but it's going to be so difficult to enforce. I

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Speaker 6: think parents need to take a greater role on this.

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Speaker 6: There's different apps you can apply so the kids can't

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Speaker 6: access that. Don't get them the iPhones where they can,

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Speaker 6: you know, have the ability to go on the net

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Speaker 6: anywhere anywhere they are. But also, I mean, you've only

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Speaker 6: got to look at television reader, Netflix, stand even free

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Speaker 2: There's some disgusting episodes on television.

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Speaker 6: So you know, it's not just the Internet that is

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Speaker 6: dangerous for kids. It's everywhere now that we have to

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Speaker 6: be really, really careful and parents need to take a

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Speaker 6: stronger approach in really looking closely at what their kids

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Speaker 2: Prou I've got to say I disagree. I do not

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Speaker 2: like this sort of censorship at all. I don't want

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Speaker 2: the likes of Julie Inman Grant deciding what's hateful material

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Speaker 2: pro should it be something that is left to parents

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Speaker 2: or parents really not equipped to deal with this sort

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Speaker 2: of issue, given the kids are so much better with

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Speaker 7: Well, I think you know, it's got to be the parents.

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Speaker 7: I agree that kids can get around anything technical these

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Speaker 7: days and leave us all for dead. But you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm sick of kids being cotton wooled and snowflaked, and

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Speaker 7: that's what we're bringing raising. Sadly, I just always feel

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Speaker 7: there's a focus on the risk rather than the benefits,

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Speaker 7: particularly with YouTube, where you know they have education and

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Speaker 7: health benefits, and it's really strongly supported. I think seventy

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Speaker 7: nine percent of kids ten to fifteen use it for

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Speaker 7: those reasons. And you know, when I was a kid,

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Speaker 7: I used to sneak looking at, you know, the books

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Speaker 7: that my mother used to wear that were sort of

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Speaker 7: naughty you're used to read, and you sort of think, well,

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Speaker 7: you know, this is natural for kids to want to

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Speaker 7: investigate and explore, and obviously we've got to be careful

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Speaker 7: that we supervise them. But I just feel very uncomfortable

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Speaker 7: having governments telling us what we can and look at

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Speaker 7: and read read it.

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Speaker 6: There's also a positive aspect to this. I have an

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Speaker 6: levenyear old grandson that you know, has a slight TikTok

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Speaker 6: account here, so over half million followers that discuss lunar

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Speaker 6: parts w you know, it's hysterical. I can't believe he

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Speaker 6: had more followers than what the Liberal Liberal Party did

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Speaker 6: during the election. They should have imployed him. But there's

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Speaker 6: the positives where where it can it can be very

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Speaker 6: good for kids.

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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, and I think it's just foolish to try

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Speaker 2: to impose these sorts of controls. Sure get rid of

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Speaker 2: things that are threats things that are explicit materials that

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Speaker 2: kids should be protected from. But you don't need to

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Speaker 2: be banning YouTube. The This is how kids consume information

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Speaker 2: and I just think it's such a counterproductive thing to

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Speaker 2: Inman Grant making those calls. I mean that is just

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Speaker 2: alarm bells. Yeah, no, that is that that something. Really

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Speaker 2: the coalition needs to come out and take a stand,

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Speaker 2: but sadly they've been really silent on this issue. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk local government. Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore has announced

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Speaker 2: that gas appliances will be banned in new homes from

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Speaker 2: next year. She's also proposing to ban gas from new offices,

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Speaker 2: hotels and service departments. Tina, she's your local mayor. What

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Speaker 2: do you make of this policy? Will you be changing

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Speaker 2: your appliances?

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Speaker 6: I'd like to ban Clover more, That's what I'd like

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Speaker 6: to do. Look, I'm no great cook, but I have

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Speaker 6: friends that are, and they do tell me some dishes

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Speaker 6: are really impossible to cook. And regulate a control with

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Speaker 6: our gas appliances.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy.

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Speaker 6: People should be given the choice. We should not be

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Speaker 6: dictated by some woman that's been there far too long.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as soon as she goes.

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Speaker 9: The better.

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Speaker 2: H Prue, what do you say to that? I know

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Speaker 2: it's I mean, can you even put a walk on

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Speaker 2: an electric cook top? It doesn't make sense. You need

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Speaker 2: you need the flames.

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Speaker 7: Of course you do, or they're saying inductions as good.

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Speaker 7: But first of all, we're going to need electricity to

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Speaker 7: actually fire up all these ovens and cook tops because

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Speaker 7: the rate we're going, we're in Fancy's fantasy land with

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Speaker 7: the renewables, We're not going to have electricity supply that

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Speaker 7: could even cook a stir for in time.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've got councils.

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Speaker 7: Like Clover Moore and Buly's six others are trying to

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Speaker 7: do it, and seven have already done it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, get out.

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Speaker 7: Of our lives, stick to the roads and rates and rubbish,

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Speaker 7: and you know it's not your jurisdiction.

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Speaker 2: She's got a large Asian.

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Speaker 7: Contingency in the city of Sydney who always cook on walks,

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Speaker 7: so she's she's not going to make herself very popular

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Speaker 7: in that area. So I just think she's always overstepping

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Speaker 7: the mark.

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Speaker 2: God knows why. She's got nothing better to do.

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Speaker 7: Clearly put her to pasture or something.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Victorian government, they've got all sorts of statewide

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Speaker 2: restrictions on gas and they're not particularly popular either, but

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Speaker 2: they're pressing ahead and they've announced a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: new regulations today, particularly for rental properties. Now, I want

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Speaker 2: to just get your take on what's happening with international travel.

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Speaker 2: Australians have been worn that they maybe travel chaos in

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Speaker 2: the peak season due to the Iran Israel conflict, with

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Speaker 2: flights from Australia to the milease delayed and canceled in

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Speaker 2: some cases. Prove that timing couldn't be worse for travelers,

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Speaker 2: given that many Australians do transit through the Middle East

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Speaker 7: Well, it wouldn't be me, Reta. I wouldn't risk it

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Speaker 7: because you can't trust Iran, and that's for sure. They're

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Speaker 7: talking seats fire, but you just couldn't believe it, So

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Speaker 7: I would be staying at home, day at home. I've

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Speaker 7: got to say, on the upside.

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Speaker 6: There may be some cheap seats available REDA if.

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Speaker 2: You're into advention. Seemed to me, yeah, well you would

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Speaker 2: hope that. But no, it seems with the flight cancelations there.

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Speaker 2: The scarcity is making the fares even higher during peak season.

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Speaker 2: So people seem to be pretty bold these days, Tina.

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Speaker 2: After the COVID lockdowns, people want to get out there

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Speaker 2: and travel.

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. I mean, you know, anything could

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Speaker 6: happen anytime in the world. I think, if you've spent

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Speaker 6: a lot of money on travel plans, you know, go

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Speaker 6: for it. Be sensible about it. Look at the government

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Speaker 6: travel warnings. But you know, if I had a big,

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Speaker 6: expensive holiday plan, I'd still be going. Look to this day,

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Speaker 6: I'd still love to be in Israel at this at

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Speaker 6: this moment. I know it's very dangerous and not a

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Speaker 6: great place to be, but it's such a fascinating country, Rita,

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Speaker 6: So if I had a tip to Israel planned, I'd

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Speaker 6: certainly still be going.

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Speaker 2: I was there in December, and yeah, there's nowhere else

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Speaker 2: like it in the world, Tina, and pro thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for your time tonight. Thanks to America. And

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Speaker 2: while the Democrats play the role of the Iranian Muller's

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Speaker 2: useful idiots, railing against the military action and calling for

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump to be impeached, the president has been busy

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Speaker 2: securing a seaspire, what he calls a complete and total ceasepire.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear more on that from Vice President JdE Vance.

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Speaker 10: What it means, Brett's quite simple. First of all, the President,

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Speaker 10: without knock on Wood, having a single American casualty, obliterated

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Speaker 12: One hundred percent. And Trump was That's the thing that

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Speaker 2: Now, what do you make of the manner in which

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Speaker 12: When I look at the timing and manner of the

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Speaker 12: Reluctant to do that. The optics of being snubbed at

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Speaker 2: Not even getting a meeting with the Vice President. I

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Speaker 12: Right and not grabbing that opportunity when he had it

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Speaker 2: Back to the US and Attorney General Pam Bondi was

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Speaker 5: The United States, Congressman, I can't talk about that in

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Speaker 5: There is not a day that goes by that we

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Speaker 12: And they probably don't. And this is back to what

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Speaker 2: How will the Democrats handle this escalation? Will they carry

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Speaker 12: I think so, and they feel really scattered. There's like

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Speaker 2: So had they learned from that or do they still

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Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be fascinating what they come up with.

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Speaker 13: These violent agitators put peaceful demonstrators at risk. The FBI

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Speaker 14: We are currently tracing money to determine who is providing

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Speaker 2: This is potentially huge. There are some very rich, very

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Speaker 12: that are going to try and style me this every

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Speaker 12: step of the way. So it's not going to be easy,

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Speaker 12: but it does show the power of a full throaded

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Speaker 12: approach by the government, all agencies, the IRS they know

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Speaker 12: everything about your money, the FBI, the DoD, Homeland Security, Pambindi,

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Speaker 12: and the Justice Department, everybody kind of coming together for

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Speaker 12: the singular goal of getting these people out and those

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Speaker 12: who eat and about them admonished.

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Speaker 2: Now before you go. If you were advising the Australian government,

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Speaker 2: which has now got a relationship with our biggest ally,

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Speaker 2: the US, that isn't the strongest it's been. We've had

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister snubbed repeatedly, how would you look to

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Speaker 2: repair that relationship? Had do you? Because we've have the

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Speaker 2: trade tariffs to negotiate, we have orcas, we've got the

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Speaker 2: defense spending. It's a really critical time and Albaniza needs

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Speaker 2: to get some FaceTime with the President.

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Speaker 12: I think you have been very clear about Australia first,

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Speaker 12: like what is the actual policy gender that puts Australia first,

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Speaker 12: and understanding that sometimes that gets complicated as well. You're

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Speaker 12: dealing with this tenuous coalition or of different people from

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Speaker 12: the Greens all the way to the Centrist so figuring

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Speaker 12: that out, and then secondly in teress of dealing with

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Speaker 12: the US. Trump is very much a people person at

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Speaker 12: the end of the day, in that old fashioned approach

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Speaker 12: of building a relationship, finding somebody who has likability with

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Speaker 12: him and his team and pushing on that.

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Speaker 2: Like that's going to be Kevin Rudd. It looks like

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Speaker 2: the ambassador is an impediment, not a help at this point,

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Speaker 2: do they have to make a call on that, because

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Speaker 2: this relationship has it's tainted, it's it's as weak as

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Speaker 2: it's Spain in several decades.

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Speaker 12: And he doesn't seem to be pulling away from that Albans.

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Speaker 12: He seems to be backing Kevin Rudd and that role.

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Speaker 12: But I would have to imagine. I don't think Trump is

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Speaker 12: really spending too much time thinking about Australia right now.

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Speaker 12: But if it were, and if he said I can't

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Speaker 12: work with this guy, send me somebody else, I'm pretty

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Speaker 12: sure that would happen.

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Speaker 2: Koshigeta, thank you for your time. Pleasure coming up. Lefties

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Speaker 2: Losing It Plass three radical socialist NEPO baby on the

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Speaker 2: verge of being elected mayor of New York meeting, Alex

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Speaker 2: Stein joins me. Next, you're watching the Reader Paney Show,

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Speaker 2: and it's time for lefties losing it. You know, nature

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Speaker 2: is healing. Things are getting better day by day. Even

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Speaker 2: as the demented Democrats called for Donald Trump to be

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Speaker 2: impeach Fray targeted strike against Iran's nuclear facilities. Still the

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Speaker 2: number of sane, rational folk is increasing. You know things

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Speaker 2: are looking up. When a confirmed teds sufferer like Charlemagne

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Speaker 2: is relatedly seeing the light. Now this is going to

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Speaker 2: outrage his lefty audience. That will be meltdowns galore cause

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Speaker 2: his spitting facts.

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Speaker 15: There have been a bunch of presidents who have ordered

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Speaker 15: strakes without congressional approval. Barack Obama did it against Libya.

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Speaker 15: Biden ordered strikes in Iraq and Syria without congressional approval.

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Speaker 15: Bill Clinton did it to the Kulsovo. I think you

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Speaker 15: can pronounced it. So President's ordering military action without congressional

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Speaker 15: approval has become pretty routine.

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Speaker 2: And he is not alone. He's another Democrat, another lefty

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Speaker 2: losing it. He used to rile against Trump, who is

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Speaker 2: now defending him. Stephen I. Smith is angry not at

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Speaker 2: the President, but at the Democrats and their calls for impeachment.

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Speaker 16: The Democrats are calling, or at least some of them are

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Speaker 16: calling for the impeachment of Donald Trump. Same old song

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Speaker 16: and dance. I thought we heard this before. I thought

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Speaker 16: that was over and done with. The minute you lost

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Speaker 16: the election with the popular voter in the electoral college,

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Speaker 16: Volden losing.

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Speaker 2: Every Swinge state, I thought we were over that.

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Speaker 16: Question number one. No matter what you feel about the

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Speaker 16: President of the United States.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's the time.

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Speaker 16: While we're in the middle of such strife to be

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Speaker 16: calling for the impeachment of the President of the United States, particular,

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Speaker 16: if you're a representative of you're an elected official in

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Speaker 16: the United States of America, I don't think so. It's

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Speaker 16: number one.

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Speaker 2: Number two.

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Speaker 16: Were the Democrat saying that when Obama bamba Libya when

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Speaker 16: he was in office.

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Speaker 2: It's a new day, folks. I'll be playing you some

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Speaker 2: crazy lefties soon, but right now we are just reveling

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Speaker 2: in lefties who are finally seeing the light.

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Speaker 16: This is eradicating a threat. Civilians weren't targeted, nuclear sites

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Speaker 16: were targeted. You can navigate your way around the war

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Speaker 16: powers act itself, and you don't have to concern yourself

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Speaker 16: with receiving congressional approval.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats know that because of Obama.

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Speaker 16: So if you knew that because of Obama and you

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Speaker 16: didn't say it when it involved him in Libya, why

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Speaker 16: would you turn around and all of a sudden try

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Speaker 16: to make that case against Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Really, he's done my work for me, precisely the arguments

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Speaker 2: I was going to make it. Now I have to

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Speaker 2: listen to a lifelong Democrat maker, I may lose it myself.

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Speaker 2: Now Trump has even got Democrat Senator John Fetterman, once

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Speaker 2: a far left radical, criticizing AOC and her calls for

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Speaker 2: Trump to be impeached.

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Speaker 17: She knows it, I know it, We all know it.

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Speaker 17: That's not going anywhere. And you know he's been impeached

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Speaker 17: twice and now he's still our president as well now too,

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Speaker 17: So it's not going anywhere. And I don't think that's helpful.

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Speaker 17: And I think if you throw that term around, that

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Speaker 17: actually diminishes what the severity of what impeachment is really

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Speaker 17: reserved for.

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Speaker 2: And here's more lefties getting an education. Old school lefty.

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Speaker 2: Bill Myer's audience got a strong dose of logic from

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Speaker 2: Republican Wesley Hunt about the importance of not tearing down

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Speaker 2: Confederate statues and the importance of restoring the names of

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Speaker 2: military bases. Listen to this.

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Speaker 1: Trump is putting the Roberty Lee name back on buildings.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you done with that?

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Speaker 11: So when I was at West Point, I actually lived

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Speaker 11: in Robert E. Lee Barrett when I was there, and

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Speaker 11: as I said, Berdie Lee went to it. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 11: yes he did. That's why the beaks named after him,

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Speaker 11: And so my brother, sister, and I are matriculated through

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Speaker 11: West Point. We all graduated. And I will never forget

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Speaker 11: walking under the threshold of Roberty Lee Berris to think

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Speaker 11: to myself, damn, this is one hell of a country,

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Speaker 11: because only in America can someone like me walk into

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Speaker 11: a building named after a Confederate general and then be

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Speaker 11: a successful West Point graduate. And I do not want

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Speaker 11: to take down these statutes and shames, the names of

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Speaker 11: these buildings. They're a reminder of what was and if

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Speaker 11: we don't remember it, we are doomed to repeat it.

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Speaker 18: So there's a reason for it.

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Speaker 2: I said, as if it's not bad enough that I

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Speaker 2: have the like sort of Charlemagne and Stephen A Smith

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Speaker 2: making my arguments for me. And now is Bill Maher

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Speaker 2: poking fun at the dangerously dim witted and delusional ladies

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Speaker 2: of the view with.

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Speaker 1: Pie Goldberg saying it's worse to be a black person

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Speaker 1: in America today than a woman in Iran. You know,

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Speaker 1: I say, we were talking about the transisue before in

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Speaker 1: the New York Times. Really has come over on that

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Speaker 1: to the sort of the sensible liberal not crazy work position.

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Speaker 1: I think this is great first step to were getting

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Speaker 1: the Democrats back to sanity, and a second good step

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Speaker 1: would be we got to do something about the view.

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Speaker 2: I really believe that.

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Speaker 6: I mean.

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Speaker 18: This huge and.

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Speaker 2: Iranda, stay in your lane. Bill Maher, mocking lefties is

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Speaker 2: my territory. You go back to, I don't know, smoking

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Speaker 2: dope and poking fun at Christians. But I do want

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Speaker 2: to play you. This brilliant response to Whoop is insane

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Speaker 2: victim playing from Wesley Hunt. And note again the audience clapping.

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Speaker 2: This is Bill Maher's audience. This wouldn't have happened a

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Speaker 2: few years ago.

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Speaker 11: My district and agreats out of Texas is actually a

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Speaker 11: white majority district that President Trump would have won by

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Speaker 11: twenty five points. As I said, I'm a direct descendant

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Speaker 11: of a slave. My great great grandfather was born on

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Speaker 11: a rolls down plantation. I am literally being judged not

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Speaker 11: by the color of my skin, but by the content

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Speaker 11: of my character.

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Speaker 9: That's the progress because like a lot of white people

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Speaker 9: had to vote for me a lot, So I don't

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Speaker 9: even every want to hear Whoopy Gober's conversation about how

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Speaker 9: it's worse to be black in America.

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Speaker 11: Right now, that's a bit far. And my father, who's

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Speaker 11: seventy five years old, he was a man that was

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Speaker 11: in a French quarter that had to go get a

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Speaker 11: sandwich to the back door of the building. And his

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Speaker 11: son is now a United States congressman in a white

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Speaker 11: majority district in Texas as a Republican. That is America.

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Speaker 2: That's America. And while we're talking about the view, let's

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Speaker 2: check in on the lunacy. Here is Joy Beja.

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Speaker 19: So on Thursday, the White House said that Trump was

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Speaker 19: going to make a decision on Iran within the next

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Speaker 19: two weeks. That's what he said. None of that, okay,

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Speaker 19: he was going to give diplomatic negotiations more time to

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Speaker 19: play out. And then less than forty eight hours later,

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Speaker 19: this attack was underway. So what changed and what was

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Speaker 19: he actually trying to accomplish here?

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Speaker 20: I mean, I looked the two weeks measure was clearly

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Speaker 20: a bit of a head fake.

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Speaker 19: So why did he keep it a secuence just for

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Speaker 19: the surprise and the surprise version.

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Speaker 20: I mean absolutely the diversion. And you saw the way

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Speaker 20: that the all indications were that B twos were flying

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Speaker 20: towards Guam. They already thought, okay, so we're getting in

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Speaker 20: position to be ready. They wanted to have some element

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Speaker 20: of surprised.

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Speaker 2: Did she really ask why the US didn't tell the

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Speaker 2: Iranians about the surprise attack? Lost for words? Here is

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Speaker 2: Sunny Houston on the view, pretending to be an international

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Speaker 2: law expert, and she gets shut down quick smart.

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Speaker 3: He bypassed Congress potentially violated the War Powers Resolution. I

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Speaker 3: believe this is certainly a clear violation of international law.

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Speaker 3: At the very least, Democratic House Leader haw King Jeffreyes

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Speaker 3: accused the President of misleading the country as to his intentions.

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Speaker 3: What do you think are the possible ramifications that President

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Speaker 3: Trump could face for arguably overstepping his authority.

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Speaker 20: Well, look, constitutional, Constitutionally, only Congress has the power to

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Speaker 20: declare war. The War Powers Act would make it seem

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Speaker 20: very clear you need to have Congressional approval on this.

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Speaker 20: But president after president after president has launched the military

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Speaker 20: action without the approval of Congress.

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Speaker 2: Now Here is further proof that blue cities are mad

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Speaker 2: and willing to elect ever more radical miscerients. New York's

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Speaker 2: mayoral race is underway and Zoran Mamdani, a socialist. The

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Speaker 2: New York Post reports, has Billy ever held a job

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Speaker 2: and admits to being a Nepo baby. Well, he could

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Speaker 2: be the next man. He could be the man to

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Speaker 2: lead a city of eight point eight million people. This guy, you.

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Speaker 19: Go ahead and United Class in Iraq.

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Speaker 12: Give adept.

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Speaker 2: Attracting world and more recently, it has been involved in

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Speaker 2: violent protests against Tom Homan and the Trump administration's deportation program.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is comedian and host of Prime Time

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Speaker 2: with Alex Stein on Blaze TV. Alex, what is going

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Speaker 2: on in New York? Will we have this thirty three

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Speaker 2: year old become mayor?

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Speaker 18: You know, I hate to say it, Rita, but I

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Speaker 18: think he is, you know, possibly going to win. And

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Speaker 18: I think New York kind of you know, they get

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Speaker 18: what they deserve. And if they want to try radical socialism,

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Speaker 18: and I'll go ahead and find out. I know, California

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Speaker 18: had some terrible fires because they didn't have, you know,

657
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Speaker 18: water to put out these fires. Lord have mercy if

658
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Speaker 18: there's a terrible fire in New York City and they

659
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Speaker 18: don't have water to put it out. So if they

660
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Speaker 18: want to go this direction, that's why we live in

661
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Speaker 18: a democracy. And if these people want to choose to

662
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Speaker 18: go that route, you know, Buyer beware, is all I

663
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Speaker 18: can say. When it comes to the citizens of New

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Speaker 18: York City.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we're going to see a new influx

666
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Speaker 2: of New Yorkers moving to your state, Texas or Florida

667
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Speaker 2: and Tennessee. We have seen that internally in the US

668
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Speaker 2: for some time now, Californians and New Yorkers fleeing these

669
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Speaker 2: blue states going to red states like Texas and Florida.

670
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Speaker 2: But sometimes they keep voting the same way, so it

671
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Speaker 2: can be a bit of a danger. And now Joe

672
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Speaker 2: Biden or whoever was pulling his strings, put this woman?

673
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Speaker 2: Can Tanjie Brown Jackson on the Supreme Court? Remember this?

674
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Speaker 2: Can you provide a definition for the word woman? Can

675
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Speaker 2: I provide a definition?

676
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Speaker 11: Now?

677
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't, not okay this context. I'm not in biology. Yes,

678
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: on the Supreme Court, but I can't tell you what

679
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: a woman is. But since becoming Scots, we've seen that

680
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: justice wowing us with theatrics literally like I.

681
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Speaker 3: Hate it, which makes you think it must be brilliant.

682
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Speaker 2: And ABC News reports that Justice Brown Jackson has unloaded

683
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Speaker 2: on her Supreme Court colleagues in a series of sharp

684
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Speaker 2: des sense, castigating them for what she called a pure

685
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: textualism approach to interpreting the law. Yes, we can't really

686
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Speaker 2: rely on the text, Alex. We've got to just go

687
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Speaker 2: with the feelings and vibes. I guess.

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Speaker 18: You know, she is the dei vibe Supreme Court justice.

689
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Speaker 18: So I'm surprised that she doesn't want to have to

690
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Speaker 18: look at and go buy, you know, the laws written

691
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Speaker 18: in a book. So I'm honestly not surprised because you

692
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 18: can't define a simple question like what is a woman?

693
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Speaker 18: She can't say that there's many biological differences when it

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Speaker 18: comes to chromosomes or body parts. I mean, there's just

695
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Speaker 18: so many differences between the man and a woman, and

696
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Speaker 18: she wants to try to play kid as if they're

697
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Speaker 18: the same. So this is who's in power, and there's

698
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Speaker 18: always going to be one of these dei people that

699
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Speaker 18: are there. And I think it's almost good in a way,

700
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Speaker 18: so we can kind of weed out who is making

701
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Speaker 18: the wrong decision in the Supreme Court. Sadly, I think

702
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Speaker 18: they're going to have a job for life. Supreme Court

703
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Speaker 18: justices don't go anywhere, so it stinks that she's got

704
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Speaker 18: a job forever. But at least we know that she's

705
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Speaker 18: kind of you know, the dumb one. So whatever however

706
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 18: she votes, we know the opposite of it is probably

707
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Speaker 18: the way that we should be voting.

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Speaker 2: I would argue there's another one on that in that

709
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Speaker 2: court that's even dumber, but we'll argue about that another day.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, she's got some competition there. I can tell

711
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Speaker 2: you Sean did he Combs? Music mogul Shawn did he Combs?

712
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Speaker 2: He's not going to testify at his trial. The New

713
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: York Post is reporting not only is did He not testifying,

714
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Speaker 2: but his legal team isn't planning on calling a single

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Speaker 2: witness in his defense. Alex, I'm not a lawyer, but

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Speaker 2: this seems rather a risky approach.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, I'm.

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Speaker 18: Not an attorney either, but I do think that they

719
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Speaker 18: say that if you are, you know, a criminal, it's

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Speaker 18: better to not go on the stand so that you

721
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Speaker 18: don't perjure yourself or I guess that he doesn't, you know,

722
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Speaker 18: get caught up in some sort of web of lies

723
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Speaker 18: by the prosecution. So maybe it is smart for a

724
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Speaker 18: to not go on the stand. But let's be real,

725
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Speaker 18: and I know this is an unpopular position to take

726
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Speaker 18: when it comes to this case and everything that I've

727
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Speaker 18: heard so far. Pope Daddy might be the most repugnant

728
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Speaker 18: human being in the world, but according to this case,

729
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Speaker 18: everything seems to have been consensual. It seems like there's

730
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Speaker 18: a lot of money in baby oil and disgusting actions.

731
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Speaker 18: But I think some people in this case need to

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Speaker 18: take some sort of self responsibility. So if Puff Dady

733
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Speaker 18: gets off from this core case, it's going to be

734
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Speaker 18: like the og Simpson trail. I mean, he's going to

735
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Speaker 18: be a hero reader for all the wrong reasons. So

736
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Speaker 18: I kind of hope that that doesn't happen. But I

737
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Speaker 18: also hope that, you know, justice is served and that

738
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Speaker 18: he doesn't go to jail unnecessarily if he didn't really

739
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Speaker 18: commit the crime that they're accusing him.

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Speaker 2: One, well, we don't know what the jurors think of

741
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Speaker 2: some of the footage they've seen, because no one else

742
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Speaker 2: has seen A Federal prosecutors on Monday show the jurors

743
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Speaker 2: around twenty minutes of footage from these so called freak offs,

744
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Speaker 2: and the videos were only viewed by the jury due

745
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Speaker 2: to the very graphic nature. Side don't I mean again,

746
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: just because it's repugnant doesn't mean it's illegal, So yeah,

747
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Speaker 2: it will be fascinating to see the outcome of this case.

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Speaker 2: Before you go, Alex, I know you're very sad because

749
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Speaker 2: Pride Month is almost over. You've been very active throughout June.

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Speaker 2: How close have you come to being arrested or perhaps

751
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Speaker 2: being assaulted with some of your antics?

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Speaker 18: You know, Rita, June is a good month when it

753
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Speaker 18: comes to clicks, but in reality, I'm ready for it

754
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Speaker 18: to be over because listen, I love my gay brothers

755
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Speaker 18: and sisters, but do we need a whole month to

756
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Speaker 18: just celebrate somebody's sexuality. I mean, come on, a week

757
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 18: is long enough, So I'll be happy when this holiday

758
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Speaker 18: is over. And unfortunately, I will say this, you know,

759
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 18: getting all these cliques and confronting drag queen story times. Sadly,

760
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 18: this stuff goes on even when it's not June. So

761
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Speaker 18: just because June's ending doesn't mean that all this weird

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Speaker 18: indoctrination is going to stop.

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Speaker 2: Alex Stein, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 18: Thank you, Rita.

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Speaker 2: Still to come. New research shows the dangers of medicalized

766
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Speaker 2: transgender treatments. Rachel Wong joins me with the latest Welcome

767
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Speaker 2: Back Now. Josh True Decide, a landmark case which gave

768
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Speaker 2: Australian parents the authority to approve the prescription of puberty

769
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Speaker 2: blockers for their children is now expressing doubts about that verdict.

770
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Speaker 2: Former family called Judge Steve Strickland has said the outcome

771
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Speaker 2: might have been different if today's medical evidence had been

772
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Speaker 2: available with revelations about the risks posed by puberty blockers.

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Speaker 2: Johnny wan Now is CEO Women's Forum Australia. Rachel Wong Rachel,

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Speaker 2: I would have thought these risks were evident for some time,

775
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Speaker 2: even though some in the medical fraternity are reluctant to

776
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Speaker 2: stand against the transactivists who willed so much influence. That's right, rata.

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Speaker 8: These risks have been evident for quite some time. But

778
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Speaker 8: having someone like just Strickland come out and actually reiterate

779
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Speaker 8: them yet again, I think is very powerful and another

780
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Speaker 8: nail in the coffin of so called gender firm in care,

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Speaker 8: because what he's basically saying is that the current structures

782
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Speaker 8: in place that allowed children to rescis puity blockers may

783
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 8: no longer be viable given the new evidence that has

784
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Speaker 8: come to light over the last few years about the

785
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Speaker 8: harms and the reversibility of such treatments.

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Speaker 2: And That's why we need a review, isn't it. We

787
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Speaker 2: really need to have a nationwide review that is transparent,

788
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Speaker 2: that is not full of activist research, where we just

789
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Speaker 2: look at the cold, hard facts, what the impacts of

790
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Speaker 2: these drugs are these treatments and look at the hard

791
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Speaker 2: data without all the ideology.

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Speaker 8: One hundred percent. And honestly, I'm not quite sure what

793
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Speaker 8: it's going to take for our leaders to hold this

794
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Speaker 8: review because there has been so many developments in relation

795
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Speaker 8: to youth gender medicine, both in Australia and overseas just

796
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Speaker 8: this year, and the mainstream media continues to ignore it.

797
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Speaker 8: Politicians continue to provide protection rackets for those reforming these treatments,

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Speaker 8: and the GENA clinics themselves try to continue as of

799
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Speaker 8: its business as usual. So I'm not sure what it's

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Speaker 8: going to take for our politicians to actually recognize the

801
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Speaker 8: harms that have been done to children, young people and

802
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Speaker 8: to actually act.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: This research just lends further weight to that. A new

805
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: study has revealed the risks to men of taking estrogen

806
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Speaker 2: men who identify as women. In this study, the use

807
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 2: of estrogen estrogen was linked to higher risks of cardiovascular disease.

808
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Speaker 2: And significantly higher risks of testicular and breast cancer Rachel.

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Speaker 2: If these findings are accurate, this is really frightening data.

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Speaker 2: How many who went down this medicalized pass would have

811
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Speaker 2: made different decisions if they knew the full risks.

812
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Speaker 8: One hundred percent, and we know that there are similarly

813
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Speaker 8: devastating risks for women who are identifying as men and

814
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Speaker 8: who have been pumped full of testosterone. And I think,

815
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Speaker 8: quite frankly, what has been done to an incredibly vulnerable

816
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Speaker 8: population in terms of what has effectively been a medical

817
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 8: experiment over many years, is is criminal. And the fact

818
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 8: that they are doing it to children and young people

819
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Speaker 8: I think is unforgivable.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think we're going to see a lot of lawsuits,

821
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Speaker 2: and maybe it will take the lawsuits to see some

822
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: real meaningful change in this country. We're trailing the UK, Scandinavia,

823
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Speaker 2: much of the US now to a different story. Obstetrician

824
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Speaker 2: has told a parliamentary inquiry that hundreds of migrant women

825
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Speaker 2: are seeking abortions every year to avoid breaching their visa conditions.

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Speaker 2: Obstetricians said they're providing services to five to six hundred

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Speaker 2: pregnant women per year. Rachel More can you tell me

828
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Speaker 2: about this? Why are they doing this if they don't

829
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Speaker 2: want to have an abortion.

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Speaker 8: Well, it seems from the evidence that's been given to

831
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Speaker 8: the Slavery Inquiry, so that these women have job visas

832
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Speaker 8: and there are certain restrictions around those I imagine around sort

833
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Speaker 8: of getting pregnant or maybe a pregnance they will interfere,

834
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Speaker 8: they feel with their job, and so they're fit feeling

835
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Speaker 8: forced to undertake abortions as opposed to continuing with their pregnancies.

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Speaker 8: And the doctor that gave the evidence of the inquiry,

837
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Speaker 8: she is someone who's performed abortions, and she likened this

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Speaker 8: to a form of modern slavery, and I think she's

839
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Speaker 8: absolutely right. And I'm actually quite surprised that the ABC

840
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Speaker 8: even reported on this and that this doctor even came forward,

841
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Speaker 8: because what we tend to see around the issue of

842
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Speaker 8: abortion is that there is a lot of reluctance to

843
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Speaker 8: talk about the negative consequences and the negative things that

844
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 8: are going on, because there's a reluctance to I guess

845
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 8: impact on what some see as an unfettered right and

846
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Speaker 8: what some see is healthcare. And so it's good to see.

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Speaker 2: This coming out, but.

848
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Speaker 8: It is very tragic to hear that there are hundreds

849
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Speaker 8: of women just in this one place alone who have

850
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Speaker 8: felt they have been forced undergo abortions. And we know

851
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Speaker 8: that abortion coersion is something that is prominent throughout Australia,

852
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 8: not just in this place, whether it be in relation

853
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Speaker 8: to more explicit firms of quersion like domestic violence, or

854
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 8: more subtle forms of coersion like feeling unsupported or feeling like,

855
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Speaker 8: you know, you have to have a termination to be

856
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Speaker 8: able to keep your job. And I think that what

857
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 8: we're seeing, unfortunately at the political level, is MPs who

858
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 8: are obsessed with expanding access to abortion at any stage

859
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Speaker 8: for any reason, Whereas imagine if these politicives put as

860
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Speaker 8: much effort into actually addressing the underlying stitle issues and

861
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Speaker 8: inequalities that these.

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Speaker 2: Kinds of women are facing. Yeah, well said, it seems

863
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Speaker 2: if you talk about abortion in anything other than a

864
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Speaker 2: positive light, there are some who just get very upset

865
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Speaker 2: are reluctant to even report on it. So yeah, good

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Speaker 2: on the ABC for covering that story. Now, yesterday we

867
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Speaker 2: showed you BBC presenter Martine Croxwell who corrected the auto

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Speaker 2: Q from saying pregnant people to pregnant women.

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Speaker 21: Nearly six hundred heat related deaths are expected in the UK.

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Speaker 21: Malcolm Mystery, who was involved in the research, says that

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Speaker 21: the aged, pregnant people, women and those with pre existing

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Speaker 21: health conditions need to take precautions.

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Speaker 5: Ah.

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Speaker 2: She has received so much praise online Rachel, including from JK. Rowling,

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Speaker 2: which is great to see. But I've got to say

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Speaker 2: the bar is pretty low when someone says something as

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Speaker 2: obvious as that and everyone's standing around applauding like it's

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Speaker 2: some profound moment.

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Speaker 8: I know absolutely. I mean, look, we have to take

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Speaker 8: these wins where we get them bo and that byrol

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Speaker 8: corection absolutely flawless and I think pretty much communicates what

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Speaker 8: a lot of us are feeling in relation to women

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Speaker 8: being raised and humanized with terms like pregnant people and

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Speaker 8: uterus owners and bleeders and so on. And I know

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Speaker 8: that even in the latest issues paper by the.

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Speaker 2: Australian Law Reform Commission about.

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Speaker 8: The review of surrogacy laws, the word woman is only

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Speaker 8: mentioned once and it prefers to use terms like pregnant

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Speaker 8: people pregnant person as well. And so you know we're

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Speaker 8: still fighting this here, but great to see this kind

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Speaker 8: of thing from the BBC. Imagine if someone at the

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Speaker 8: ABC did this.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that. I can't believe we're still using

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Speaker 2: in official documents pregnant people. I mean, have they learned

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Speaker 2: nothing in the last three to four years where there's

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Speaker 2: really been a reckoning in this space. Rachel Wong, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for your time tonight, and that's it

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Speaker 2: from me. I'll see you tomorrow night at eleven up.

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Speaker 2: Next it's Newsnight.