1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: So twenty twenty five, what can we say about this season? 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it electric this year. And while you 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: guys in the Northern Hemisphere catching your breath and enjoying 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: the summer break, here on Pittalk, we are warming up 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: with a Midia deep dive into what's really been happening 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. This episode of pit Talk has brought 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: to you by Shannon's Insurance. I'm your host, Rindita van Mullen, 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: joined as always by O'll go to guy for all 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: things a Moto GP inside, mister Matt Clayton. But Matt, 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: we've got an exciting guest and I'm going to say 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: he's easily in our top two favorite Jackson Moto GP 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: right now, mister Jack Apple Yard Jack, welcome to Pittalk. 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: Hello, thank you for having me a delight to be here. 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: Should I ask whether I'm first or second on that 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: list of Jackson Motto GP, I understand if I'm number two, 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: there's going to be a little bit of bias going 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: towards a fellow Australian and that's okay. 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: I'll take them worth If you've we've got some news 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: on the other Jacket might elevate you to number one 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: if the news is good Jack, So I'll leave that 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: up to you a bit later on Baby. 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: I wish, I wish last time we saw him in 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: and he says, you know as much as me, which 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: is well, I'll let you guys use some of the 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: colorful news. But yeah, he's in the dark at the moment, 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: but we'll have to wait and see. Yeah. 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: No, we've been posting all of that with Jack's comments 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: all over socials and we love his colorful language here. 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: It helps us gets a lot of the clicks, so 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: we like that. But but not talking about Miller, We're 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: going to talk about you because you have been a 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: very busy man this year. 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: Jack. 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: How are you enjoying the new role? 35 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, loving it, absolutely loving it. Big shoes to Phil. 36 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: Obviously Simon was fantastic, did it for a number of years. 37 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: But it's been such a joy to get the opportunity 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: to basically be the only man in the Pabot that 39 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: can leave the circuit on a Sunday, having been in 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: pact for mate every single weekend. I mean, I've got 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: a hundred, which even Matt Marquez can't say that he's had. 42 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: It's been fantastic so far. I mean the opportunity to 43 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: speak to the guys after I have a first wins 44 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: or first podiums is always special. I mean, in particular 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: the one that stands out being there and experiencing the 46 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: atmosphere in Lamont after Oh yeah, well that was just 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: incredibly special. I've even got goosebumps now thinking about the 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: noise when he came into park for me, the crowd 49 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: singing La Marsier's, it was an unbelievable afternoon. And yeah, 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: it's just very very privileged to be a part of 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: those moments. 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I always think it's really interesting, Jack, when we 53 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: get people like yourself that are on you know, we 54 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: see you in Australia on the TV screens every weekend. 55 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: I always think it's interesting and we take it for 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: granted a bit for those of us that are around 57 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 3: it finding out how people do their jobs and how 58 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: they work. And this is obviously a big change for 59 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: you this year. Take us inside a week ind for 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: you because Thursday, for anyone that's been in a pre 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: weekend on the media side, Thursday is the day where 62 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: you need to be everywhere at the same time because 63 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: you're trying to get as many crumbs of information as 64 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: you can about the weekend. How do you prepare for 65 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: what's coming at you by what you do on Thursday? 66 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: And then I also wanted to ask you when things 67 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: go a little bit off script, and I'm thinking of 68 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 3: the beginning of the race at Cota, when everyone's abandoning 69 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: bikes and running off the grid and that's complete chaos. 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: You are the world's eyes and ears at that point. 71 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: And I still vividly remember halfway through the opening titles 72 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 3: they just got cut off and there's people running down 73 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: the pit lane, and you're the person alerting everyone to 74 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: the fact this is going on. So twopat question, how 75 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: do you prepare for the weekend? And secondly, when something 76 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: crazy like that comes up, you can probably still recall 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: that afternoon in pretty vivid detail. 78 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: I would have thought, absolutely, get onto in preparation wise, 79 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: you know you can. You can only do so much, 80 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: you think you know. Our once is try and see 81 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: what the pattern of the storylines were from a weekend 82 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: before year, trying to reach out to people on Thursday 83 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: to get an idea of who they think is going 84 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: to be strong, who might struggle, who it could benefit 85 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: who it won't what the latest gossip is. But so 86 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: much of the job is is reactionary, which is what 87 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: I love about it. You just have to be on 88 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: your toes, wait for something to happen to then go 89 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: and grab a reaction, wait for a story to break 90 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: to go and grab a reaction. A lot of it 91 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: you can't plan for. You can, certainly with the interviews 92 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: that I do with certain people, you have to plan 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: them in advance a little bit. You'll know, book them in, 94 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: get your slots because all of the TV stations so 95 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: often are wanting to speak to the same people. And 96 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: then once you know who you're going to speak to 97 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: on a Friday morning, Friday afternoon, Saturday morning, then you 98 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: can start to think about how you want to ask 99 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: you questions and what answers you want to get from them. 100 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: But the thing that I love most about the job 101 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: is that it is just so reactionary. You know, actually, 102 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: if someone hurts themselves, you've got to go and find 103 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: out what's happening. A rumor leaks about one rider going there, 104 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: you're going to go and speak to them, and just 105 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: think of things on the hoof, So that it means 106 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: often the prep that you do come Friday, ten minutes 107 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: into the session, it's completely uselel and then for Kotel' 108 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: always remember that that was round three. So on my 109 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: third weekend doing it properly. And obviously I've got a 110 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: talk back with with Matt and Lewis in the commentary 111 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: box to be able to chat to them and tell 112 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: them who I'm going to speak to, give them sub 113 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: dates that I think can help. And often during those 114 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: sixty seconds before the race starts, I stayed quiet because 115 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: it's a good opportunity for them to get their notes 116 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: in order to have a breath and just get ready 117 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: for the race ahead. And I was stood there on 118 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: the side. I was actually with Jorge Martin about to 119 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: interview him on the warm up lat and he's managing 120 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: Era over the shoulder, pointed and shouted, that's Mark Marquez. 121 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: So I turned, saw him running, looked up pit lane 122 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: and saw the rest of the morning. Quickly got on 123 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: the over line to the guides, then just shouted, they're 124 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: all running off of the grid. 125 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: I wit. 126 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: Kicked away from the opening sequence and gone to what 127 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: was happening in pit lane, and I was sprinting down 128 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: pit lane in that moment, I didn't know what to do. 129 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: Do I stand there and wait with him? So I 130 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: go with them. So I just thought, going that way, 131 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to go that way with them, just to 132 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: see what happens. And then speaking about being reactionary, then 133 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: once you'd had the chance to stop and think, I thought, 134 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: you know, those guys in the comtry box can describe 135 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: what happening. I feel my job is to get the 136 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: opinion of the people on the ground of what they 137 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 2: make of it. And initially I thought that the people 138 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 2: are going to feel wronged. Here are the ones that 139 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 2: made the correct call on the grid and stayed on 140 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: the grid. One of them was Ayagura, And just as 141 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: I turned around, I could see David day Rivio walking 142 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: towards me. And David Day is normally the most calm, 143 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: mild mannered, placid man, and you could just tell you 144 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: were seething with anger. So I just went up to 145 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: him and went, could you just ask a quick question? Okay, 146 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: no problem? So I got it, and then his reaction 147 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: was brilliant and told the story perfectly of this is 148 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: this is wrong, It should be able to happen. We've 149 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: made the right decision. We're being penalised for it, so 150 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: so much of that is just okay, trying to stop 151 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: and think and have a clear mind of right, what's 152 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: the story here? Who do we need to speak to 153 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: to try and get the right reactions. Luckily I think 154 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: I've got it right with Brivio on that situation. But yeah, 155 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: it was a wild one. 156 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Brivio one was perfect because you all you 157 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: had to do was line him up and he had 158 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: his answer and he wanted to get all of the 159 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: annoyances and the frustrations there, and all you needed to 160 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: do is just hold the Mike Andrew's nose why you 161 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: got it, which was absolutely perfect. But to take you 162 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: inside what it was like being in Australia, of course 163 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: with the time difference at six o'clock in the morning 164 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: on a Monday, so we're sitting here like half asleep, 165 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: trying to get ready for a murder GP race and 166 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: then they're all running off the grid and we're listening 167 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: to you as like I know that I'm not one 168 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: hundred percent awake here, but what on earth is going on? 169 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: It was his most surreal experience and being on the 170 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: inside as you were, I mean, you know, third Grand Prix. 171 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: It's like, is it always like this? 172 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, And then for Lamon Lamon wasn't too dissimilar 173 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: as well. No, the reratin has stopped, and because I 174 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: was aware of what Mark had done two rounds before, 175 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: I just placed myself until they had to kick me 176 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: off right behind the ninety three. If he was having 177 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: any conversations with Ta dot C or his crew chief, 178 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: just to see whether he's going to do the same again, 179 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: and they were very close to him. I mean, that 180 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: was another wild one of trying to be at the 181 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: end of pit lane looking as they're going out to 182 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: see who's on what tires, And yeah, that was and 183 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: I love that though, absolutely loved that. When when when 184 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: it all goes wrong and there's chale element and I think, wow, 185 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: this is so much fun. 186 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just heard you talking about Mark and it 187 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: made me think, Okay, you're obviously in the paddoic. You're 188 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: seeing him every weekend. How completely in control of everything 189 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: is he right now? Like we see him on track, 190 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: you see him the races. He kind of has everyone 191 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: under his finger, right. 192 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just feel that he's just so completely dominant 193 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: at the moment. There's not not even an expectation just 194 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: to I think and understanding across the grid that or 195 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 2: even across the paddoct that Mark's going to win today. 196 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: It's a battle for second unless something wild happens. Certainly 197 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: now that he's got those those crashes out of the way, 198 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: you know, the one at Austin Stone, the one in 199 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: her f Stung, And since then he's evolved, is learned, 200 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: and he looks unstoppable. Now, I mean looking at the 201 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: second half of the year, and I think everyone's asking 202 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: the question, when is the first opportunity for anybody else 203 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: it's going to come along. It's almost a given he's 204 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: going to wrap up the world championship. It's not a 205 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: question of if, it's when he's going to do it. 206 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, he's just in complete control, as you say, 207 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: And it makes my job difficult because I'm really running 208 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: out of questions to ask you. Yeah, well, then you've 209 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: done it again, Mark, another dominant victory. How do you 210 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: feel about this one? But he's fair play. I mean, 211 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: I think we all had a feeling that this was 212 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: going to happen. When you put the best rider on 213 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: the best ride, there's only one outcome, and we're seeing 214 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: what happens when those two things merge. 215 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting though, because you know, if you go 216 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: back and you look at the early way he won 217 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: World Championships, it looks like it's going to be the 218 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: same end of the season that we saw so many 219 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: times before. But I almost think that, you know, this 220 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: is one of those rare cases where the sequels better 221 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: than the original, you know, like he's the new improved 222 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: version of Mark. You can see, you can see how 223 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: he's improved since he last won one, which you know, 224 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen doesn't seem that long ago. It was a 225 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: very long time ago. There's a new improved version of Mark. 226 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: But the other side to this coin, of course, Jack 227 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: is Pekovanyaya. We came into this season so hopeful. It's like, well, look, 228 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 3: Mark's going into Pecko's team, and Pecko's been a two 229 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: time world champion and a two time runner up in 230 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: the last four years. And as good as it's been 231 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: for Mark, it's been pretty dire for Pecko. What are 232 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: you seeing from your vantage point right now, because it 233 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: looks from afar that Peko is still a little bit confused, 234 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: he's still a little bit incredulous, about the whole thing, 235 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: and there seems to be this He is the shoulder 236 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: shrugging emoji right now. He's not one hundred percent sure 237 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 3: how he's got himself into this position. Do you think 238 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: the rest of this year is really trying to understand 239 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: and at least finish the year with an understanding of 240 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: where things are and then resetting, because right now he 241 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 3: just looks so defeated. 242 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he really is. I think even worse than frustrations, 243 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: it's almost just an acceptance from him now the this 244 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: bike isn't going to give me what I wanted. He 245 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: said that in the lawn, which was it feels a 246 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 2: long time ago, and since then twelve rounds now and 247 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: his performance levels haven't really improved. Throughout the year, the 248 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: Caty have tried to throw different bits at him. Whether 249 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: he's tried the new erow, he's tried a couple of 250 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: different chassis, but unfortunately whatever they give at the moment, 251 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: the GP twenty five engine, which which is different. You know, 252 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 2: throughout pre season we said that it was the same 253 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: and David Todd lots in everyone of the Catty told 254 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: us that they were imuligating the twenty four engine, which 255 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: in spec is the same, but it is very slightly 256 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: different in minor areas, which has clearly affected the balance 257 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: of the bike and completely taken away any of that 258 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: front feeling that made peckout that the riding of he 259 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: was over the last three seasons, and if it hasn't 260 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: improved over twelve rounds, I don't think there's a lot 261 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: of confidence from anyone that's going to find a miraculous 262 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: answer to be able to suddenly fighting for race victories 263 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: in the second half of the season. Within the rules, 264 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: there is the possibility for going into twenty twenty six 265 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: because the Katy confirmed for the satellite teams, those on 266 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: the bikes like Alex Marquez and Frankie Morbidelli, the Pecker 267 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: to return to that end journal more to a GP 268 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: twenty four spec. But whether they do that that's a 269 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: question for pre season. But yeah, I mean, just trying 270 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: to find that confidence again, it's going to be a 271 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: huge challenge and it's tough for ban Yaya because, like 272 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: you say, on the opposite side of the garage, Mark 273 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: is being able to handle all of the changes quite grilliantly, 274 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: but these circumstances are slightly different as well. That Mark 275 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: has taken a step from the twenty twenty three last year, 276 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: and we've seen the performance step that Alex has been 277 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: able to make. It clearly is a step forward from 278 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: twenty three to twenty four or twenty five? Is it 279 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: a step from twenty four to twenty five? I think 280 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: clearly it's not. And Peko is at the moment trying 281 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 2: to ride it like he was last year, and unfortunately 282 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: the bike this year just isn't allowing him to do that. 283 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: It's one of the great benefits I guess you could 284 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 3: say with Marcus he never actually rode the twenty four. 285 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: It hasn't had to one learn how to ride the 286 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: twenty four. 287 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: That's the same for what and Abastianini said last time 288 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: out as well. I thought that was really interesting that 289 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: the results and the huge turnaround inform saw in Bruno. 290 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: He said it was because I come here and I've 291 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: got no prior knowledge of any other bike, so I'm 292 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: not trying to like the CATD. I'm just having to 293 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: ride it like this bike is. So yeah, it's a 294 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: challenge for Peko, it really is, and I don't think 295 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: it's out of the question that he's looking over his 296 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: shoulder and might be up against it to even hold 297 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: onto a top three spot in the championship. I mean, 298 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: it feels as though it's a given that Mark and 299 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: Alex are going to finish one too, but with a 300 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: form of Fazeki at the moment that the Prillier is 301 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: really strong, really strong in the last few rounds, and 302 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: if it wasn't for Mark, Bas would have been winning 303 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: races quite comfortably. So I think the packer was really 304 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: We've got a huge challenge in the second half of 305 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: the year to hold off the rising form of a Brillian. 306 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: You've cued me up beautifully here by mentioning Aprillier, because 307 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: I did want to ask you. It's almost like we've 308 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: done this before. I wanted to ask you about the 309 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: other big story of this year that you were right 310 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: in the middle of. I'm not talking about the start 311 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: of the race at Cota, the interview you did with 312 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: Albert Valera on the Live at Asen, which was kind 313 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: of the court coming out of the bottle in this 314 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,359 Speaker 3: whole Martine a Prillia situation, because it kind of stagnated 315 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: for a bit, and I feel that that interview was 316 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: the impetus that caused everything that followed and ended up 317 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: with Juge Martin back on the bike for Aprillia and 318 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: Bruno and apparently we're all holding hands and friends again. 319 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: But talk us through that interview with Albert Valeria, because 320 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure that's one of those ones where either you 321 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: approached him or he approached you and said, hey, I'd 322 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: like to come and talk to you today please. He 323 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: really had something that he wanted to say and get 324 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: out there that was pretty riveting tv A in the moment, 325 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: and then what it kicked off in the days after that. 326 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: You must have known as that was happening. It's like, 327 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: oh boy, I've got something here, this is this is 328 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: going to be fun. 329 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah I was. I was looking my lips thinking, yeah, 330 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: I've definitely got a story this weekend, and we've got 331 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: ye as soon as as soon as the news broke, 332 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: I got in touch with Albert saying, you know, would 333 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: love to be able to get your side of the 334 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: story around. Not yet, not yet, and he said, look, 335 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: when the time is right, I'll let you know. And 336 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: then that morning we were in Alpine Stars having a coffee. 337 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: He walked in and said, what do we think now 338 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: next weekend? You know, before the summer break. Anyway, let's 339 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: do it today. I was like, Okay, great, let's let's 340 00:16:53,080 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: get cracking. And yeah, it was. It's fascinating because obviously 341 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: English isn't his native language, so beforehand he knew what 342 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: he wanted to say and he just wanted to check 343 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: that he was going to put it across in the 344 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: right manner. So it's just what I was going to ask. 345 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: So he had the chance because often you know, like 346 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: you have to give huge credit to both Albert, but 347 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: then more on than that, or Hey in Bruno, to 348 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: do that press conference by yourself in a second language 349 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: that impeccably you know, that is so challenging to do. 350 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: But he was honest and did it incredibly well. So yeah, 351 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: it was. It was great to get the chance to 352 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: speak with Albert and everything that exploded on from that. 353 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: And I have to say, oh, hey, I think from 354 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: the fans has got a lot of grief, has maybe 355 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: lost a lot of goodwill with the fans. But from 356 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: what Albert was saying, I could understand where he was 357 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: coming from. I mean, you saw how emotional or Hey 358 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: got in that press conference when he was asked to 359 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: recount the days after guitar where you know, on another day, 360 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: he was very luckily lucky that that didn't end a 361 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: far lot worse than what it did. He was in 362 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: ic U for for close to a week with a 363 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: collapse long, with tubes coming out of everywhere. We've obviously 364 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: been in a different country, not having his loved ones 365 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: around him, and that took him to the lowest point 366 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: of his career, the lowest point of his life, and 367 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: he already or after that. They then gone to them 368 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: on then that the contract was agreed by both parties. 369 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: Let's not forget I really agreed to it. Albert and 370 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: Jorge managed to get that clause, in that now famous 371 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: clause that after six rounds in the top five months championship. 372 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: And he'll be able to lean and I think in 373 00:18:49,520 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 4: good way given. 374 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: Very easy people. Yeah, people in the ground, you know, 375 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: all right, even more so the rain wa he's allowed 376 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 2: to a little bit insane. I need to try this, 377 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: I need to want to decide whether this bike is 378 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: right for me, and Prilliant weren't going to give him 379 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: that opportunity to do so, which because of that, I 380 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: think he put his back up a little bit and 381 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: he thought, right there well, if you're not going to 382 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: give me that opportunity, I'm going to look for opportunities elsewhere. 383 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: And yet his head was turned a little bit by 384 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: the big money offer that that Honda had on the 385 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: table for him. But I think we should not jump 386 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: all over Hawk and understand that from that difficult position, 387 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: he maybe wasn't in the right headspace to make clear decisions. 388 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: And in the end he tried the bike that that 389 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: Masano test enjoyed it, and I think there's fifty to 390 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: fifty to that story. Yes, the bike is much better 391 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: than when he first tried it, but also as well, 392 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: I think key to all of it was the pressure 393 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: that Carmelo Espeletta put on the situation by saying that 394 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: if a rider isn't fully completely with both sides happy 395 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: out of a contract, then we went registered them for 396 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: the following season, and Brilliant were more than happy to 397 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: drag it through the courts. They were playing their cards 398 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 2: as they're more than allowed to do so, and we're 399 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 2: going to try and make it as awkward as possible. 400 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: And in the end, because of that, with all the 401 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: mounting pressure from the championship from a few different parties 402 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 2: in the pad. I think it was the only real option, 403 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: and we'll see, we'll see. I still think although it's 404 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 2: happy families now, it doesn't take a lot for this 405 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: situation to change, because let's not forget that the contract 406 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: only runs up until the end of next year, so 407 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: or heey could quite happen easily, as we've seen before, 408 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: sign a deal in January to go to Honda for 409 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, which I still think is on the cards, 410 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: and then suddenly the pair of them have to live 411 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: with one another knowing that the divorces imminent in twelve months time. 412 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: I'm of the belief that if I was Masimo Rivla, 413 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: I want people that are one hundred percent committed to 414 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: this course. You're either all in or you're out, because 415 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: I want people that trust in what we're doing, believe 416 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: in what we're doing. And por Hey, regardless of the 417 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: fact whether you world champion and you're obviously one of 418 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: the top top riders out there, if you're not in, 419 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: no problem, we'll prove you wrong. We'll go elsewhere. But 420 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: also as well, it's a huge financial investment from a 421 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: prillier in Porpey Martin Rivler's bosses given the fact that 422 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 2: they signed off the extra money to make sure that 423 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: they had him on board. Would not be happy at 424 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: the fact that within six months we've lost this star 425 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: man and would be asking quite rightly serious questions of 426 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: how on earth has this gone so wrong so fast? 427 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: So I can understand why Riveller had to hold his 428 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 2: position and had to make sure that he kept him 429 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 2: on the bike. And you haven't hope, like we've seen 430 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: with Beds, that April was competitive and the one thing 431 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: that has let Marco down so far has been is qualifying. 432 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 2: And what's Jorges's huge strong suit his ability to put 433 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: one lap in and that just out of the box 434 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: electric pace. So I wouldn't be surprised if he's on 435 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 2: the podium, certainly before the end of the season, certainly 436 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: in the next maybe before we even get onto the flightaways. 437 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: I think that that Ali he's ready to compete, and 438 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: when Jorges had his best, maybe we'll see some results 439 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: and it could be a happy ending. But for sure 440 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: the story is although just calm down for now, he's 441 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: not done yet. 442 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: You guys heard it there, Jack said that who is 443 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: going to put on the box, So we're going to 444 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: hold you to that Jack, But let's move on to 445 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: our second favorite Jack. Okay, Jack, Miller, we got to 446 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: ask you about this. We had to get there at 447 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: some point. So I know you mentioned earlier that Jack 448 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: said that you know, you guys know as much as 449 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: he does. Bloody, bloody blood. But come on, surely you're 450 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: going to give us some goss or something like, what 451 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: do you know about Jack's future? What's going to happen 452 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: to Miller? 453 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: Look, Jack wants wants to stay in Moto GP. There 454 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: work offers on the table from will Bite. It looks 455 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: as though some of those options have now closed. It 456 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: seems one of them was Hondo. It looks as Jake 457 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: Dixon is going to take that up. A huge thing 458 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: to look at that the Tazuka eight Hours, which is 459 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: the endurance event which is going on at the moment. 460 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 2: I think it's this weekend on Thursday. That is a huge, 461 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: huge thing. 462 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 5: Riders in great all that grand and he's looking very 463 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 5: very and a lot of decisions to make during that 464 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 5: as well as going out there. 465 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: He's making a huge, big show of faith in Yamaha, 466 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 2: and I think he's hoping that he will be rewarded 467 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: as a result. Of that where he ends up. I 468 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: don't know, because I think it all swings on. There's 469 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: a lot of talk, a lot of rumors. Whether there's 470 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: any wait to them, I don't know, but I think 471 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: there does need to be over the summer some really 472 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: difficult conversations between Yamaha and Alex Rinns. Alex I think 473 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: is an unbelievable rider, five motor GP wins to his name, 474 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: that the talent is obvious, but I think it's clear 475 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 2: unfortunate to everybody that after that horrific leg break in Magello, 476 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: he's not the same rider anymore. And it is a 477 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: very difficult conversation to have because he's a huge because 478 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: he's a great guy. But the position that Yamahar are 479 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: at now, if they want to break through to that 480 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: next level, I just don't think that they can have 481 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: their rider line up purely based on and goodwill. They 482 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: need to make those daft decisions, be brutal and choose 483 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 2: the right riders that are going to be able to 484 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: take the project forward, whether that's paying Alex out of 485 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: his contracted year early, promoting Jack and then put in 486 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: a rookie alongside top Right and Promac next year. I 487 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: think that is a scenario that some people see is 488 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: quite a good fit. Jack would be able to step 489 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: into the factory team like he has done at the Cateid, 490 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: like he has done at KTM, bring a wealth of 491 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: knowledge he's played. He knows perfectly how to play that 492 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 2: second rider role like he did with ban Yaya, testing 493 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: items throughout the season, like he did at KTM, trying 494 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: to just elevate their level. He knows what his job 495 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: is and we'll be able to do that job very well. 496 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: Trying to support Fabio, who we all know will be 497 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: Yamaha's leading light next year, and commercially as well, the 498 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: fact that Jack is now a Monster rider, it fits 499 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: well with the brand. Jack is easily one of the 500 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: most marketable riders on the grid, and having him and 501 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: Fabio in the factory team, you know that commercially that 502 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: works for all of the sponsors because they're going to 503 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: be able to generate good content on social media, are 504 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: going to be able to sell the brands brilliantly wherever 505 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: they are. It's just a good pairing that we'll get 506 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: a lot of people talking. So I think it works 507 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: for a lot of reasons. And although Jack said that 508 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: he didn't have any answers two weekends ago in the 509 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: Czech Republic. I'm fairly sure there will be conversations been 510 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: had in Suzuka this weekend where his future will be 511 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: a lot lot clearer. So hopefully when we get to 512 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: ostroom we've seen him on Thursday, we can ask him 513 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: and he'll have some answers for us. 514 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: You mentioned top rack as well. What's your thoughts on 515 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: top pract coming in next year? How do you think 516 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: he's going to go jumping from a superbike to motorbike 517 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: so late in his career as well. 518 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fascinating. Just as a fan, I'm incredibly excited, 519 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: but he's actually happening because you just look at his 520 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: talent and the way that he writes that the World 521 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 2: Superbike is like no one else. He looks like he's 522 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: going to win the World Championship this year, but when 523 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: the BNW isn't the best bike again, And to be honest, 524 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: I think it's such a fascinating question because nobody really 525 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: knows how he's going to get on some people, there's 526 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: lots of strong opinions out there. Some people think he's 527 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: going to come in and he's going to fight for 528 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 2: the world championships, and people think he's going to fail 529 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: to score a point, and to be perfectly honest, nobody 530 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: has a clue really until he gets on the bike 531 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: and we actually see I think we have to treat 532 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: him as a rookie, which he will be. We can't 533 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: be expecting him to come in and fight for race 534 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: wins straight away. Also, the level of the Amahar at 535 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: the moment isn't going to allow him to fight for 536 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: race wins straight away. Even Fabio on his best days, yes, 537 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 2: has been able to be there and close to the podium, 538 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: but the average finishing position has been what eighth, seven, six, 539 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: It's been comfortably inside the top ten, but not really 540 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: challenging for the top five on a regular basis. I 541 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: think by the end of the year, if like a 542 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: good rookie, can have some surprise queue two appearances, it 543 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: can suddenly confirm himself inside the top ten. He can 544 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 2: learn the circuit because like most rookies, he's also got 545 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: that disadvantage that there's going to be at least half 546 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: of the circuits he goes to, but he's never ridden before, 547 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: which is due's disadvantage. So you've just got to give 548 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: him time, I think, but it's going to be fascinating 549 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: and can't wait to see how he gets on and 550 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: how that style adapts. It's one of the great things 551 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: about Motor D've next year is finding out at last, 552 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: how will top rack do to j. 553 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: We here at Pittook we like to promote out Ossie's 554 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: and not only Miller, but obviously Center Ags in Moto 555 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: two and Joe Kelso and Jacob Rulesto in Moto three. 556 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: So I want to talk to you about Senna because 557 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: this year was pretty cool to be at Silverstone. It 558 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: is his first win in Moto two. But I want 559 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: to hear from you because you've watched the whole evolution 560 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: now of Senna in the World Championship. Do you feel 561 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: like he's on the right path? Is he going to 562 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: be our next Ozzie hopeful that steps into Moto GP? 563 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 4: Do you think? 564 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely. I mean I remember speaking to Matt it 565 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: last year about this time last year year about some 566 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: of the guys to keep your eye on, and I said, 567 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: Sener he's so methodical and precise in how he works, 568 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: and he wasn't getting carried away with himself. He was 569 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: just slowly making small steps towards the front and now 570 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: this year is one of the strongest guys out there. Yeah, 571 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: I think going into next year vouted out he's going 572 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: to be a title contender. I don't think there's going 573 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: to be too many guys move up to Moto GP. 574 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: Looks like Marea is going to step up. Looks like 575 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: there's going to be a couple of guys that move 576 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: over to World Superbikes. Dixon and Cannett, likely's teammate will stay. 577 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: It seems like at the moment, despite potentially winning the 578 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: World championship, and then you would say next year it's 579 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: going to be Gonzales looking to go back to back, 580 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: It's going to be Center, probably going to be David Alonzo. 581 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: All they're fighting to be world champions. I have to 582 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: say right now, was I heard rumors of some potentially 583 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: interest even for this year, of Senner moving up to 584 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: Moto GP. But for sure, I think he's going to 585 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: be from the shopping list for a lot of riders 586 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven, for a lot of teams. Sorry, 587 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven, it was even talk could he 588 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: may be like we saw with man who Gonzales before 589 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: the end of the year and in the opportunity to 590 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: try Motor GP bike this year, just to get him 591 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: prepped potentially for a step up. I'm not sure whether 592 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: those talks have gone colds, but I did hear that 593 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: was potentially something that who were trying to work towards. Well. 594 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: For sure, I'm convinced that if he continues to make 595 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: the progress that he is, he's going to fight for 596 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: the World championship next year and he's going to be 597 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: a hot, hot candidate to be on the gridge for 598 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, which for me is the perfect time 599 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: to move up to Moto GP. 600 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, so you need to think of the 601 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 3: rule changes coming in. It's the big reset for the series. 602 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 3: There's some ronerda you and I were talking about this 603 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: off here. There's a change of management there for Center 604 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 3: behind the scenes as well, which is rather interesting given 605 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 3: that he's now got Daniel Ricardo's former manager black Friend 606 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: looking after him, and also which has Davies and is 607 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: quite a powerhouse sort of management shift going on behind 608 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: there as well. So they clearly see something that's going 609 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: on there as well they want to get on board with. 610 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: So I hope your twenty twenty seven prediction, Jack is 611 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: a spot on. 612 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, fingers crossed. I mean sometimes you just get the 613 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: feeling that it's the right rider, with the right personality, 614 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: the right past, which does help the right people around him, 615 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: the right results, the right trajectory. In so far touch 616 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: toward everything seems to just be moving in the right direction, 617 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: the center. So let's hope that continues. 618 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: I like the bold calls that you're doing so far. 619 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: So let's move on to murto three real quick so 620 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: we can get another one. Let's talk about Joel Kelsoe 621 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: because he had a really strong start to the year 622 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: and then unfortunately ended well headed into his summer break 623 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 1: that one weekend early, then everyone else with that injury. 624 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: But how do you think Joel's tracking this year? Is 625 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: it time for Joel also to make that step up, 626 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: for him to move into Moto two? 627 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: Uh? Joel's a tough one. I mean, he started the 628 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: season so well, didnto, and though through no fault of 629 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: his owning, it has been a bit unlucky with injuries 630 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: just dognated into the summer break, which is I guess 631 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: it can work both ways. You either allow that to 632 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: see with you and yeah, a little bit unhappy and 633 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: you come out slow out of the blocks going into 634 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: the second half of the season, or it's a good 635 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: opportunity to reset and rediscover that form on the first 636 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: half or the first part of the season. For Joe. 637 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: Joel's an interesting one because, through no fault of his own, 638 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: his stature doesn't scream to you Moto two rider because 639 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: he is it's just a diminutive rider. I mean and 640 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: not want to speak, I'm not exactly. He's not one 641 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: of those riders like a Colin Veyer or an Autela 642 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: over the past couple of years, who are obviously growing 643 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: anything they need to move up. You do feel that 644 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: Joel maybe could benefit from another year in Moto three, 645 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: and because of his size, certainly won't be disadvantaged by 646 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: doing another year on a Moto three bike because obviously 647 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: that first victory is something that he needs to tick off. 648 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: He needs to find that rhythm had been more consistently 649 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 2: on the podium. Let's see, hopefully, as I said that 650 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: that injury has allowed him although it was a bit 651 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 2: of a nasty one. I know he's gone back home 652 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: to Australia, so hopefully he's got into his room with 653 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: his training again, he can get back fit and he 654 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 2: could really attack these first couple three or four rounds 655 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: at the second half of the season and rediscover that 656 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 2: mojo we had in the first part of the season, 657 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: and then that might be the impetus he needs to 658 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: kick off for a big twenty twenty six. But so 659 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: far within the paddock, it's pretty interesting that because there's 660 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 2: been everyone was waiting on a resolution of the hot 661 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 2: Pit Martine thing, because that was then going to be 662 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 2: the domino effect of how the rest of the Moto 663 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: GP grid shapes up, and obviously the Moto two grid 664 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: can't take shape until the Motor GP grid has taken shape, 665 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: and then threes the next on the ladder as well. 666 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: So there's not been too much talk about the guys 667 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: moving up from motos at the moment, other than the 668 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: obvious ones of Ruada would we care us The Natter 669 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: seems to be moving up as well. So I've not 670 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 2: heard anything in regards to job moving up to Moto 671 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 2: two next year, but I think that's probably the right course. 672 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: I think it up and gear with Moto three to 673 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: really solidify himself as a regular race winning contender. Would 674 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: for me be the best move. 675 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that the Martine story sort of sucked all the 676 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 3: oxygen out of the room for a bit and everything 677 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: had to wait its term to turn to develop after that. 678 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 3: But Jack, one more quick one, conscious of your time 679 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: here and thank you for joining us this evening. But 680 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 3: I did want to sort of finish on a more 681 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 3: forward thinking thoughe because we know that the Liberty Media 682 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 3: purchase has gone through, and anyone who's lived on the 683 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 3: inside of F one, as I have for a number 684 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 3: of years, it's undeniable the impact that the Liberty ownership 685 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 3: and well, frankly once in one hundred year pandemic that 686 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 3: forced everyone to watch Netflix for six months and we 687 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: were all locked at home was the perfect confluence of 688 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: circumstances to turn F one to something that is almost 689 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: unrecognizable from what it was like eight to ten years ago, 690 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 3: and certainly a long time before that for old people 691 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: like moving covering it for a while. 692 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: But you know that. 693 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 3: Liberty is in the business of storytelling, which is right 694 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: down your street. Because that's why you're in this, this 695 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 3: is what you love to do. It seems like it 696 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: can only be a positive outcome. Having someone like Liberty involved, 697 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 3: But what do you feel this is going to do 698 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 3: for the wider Motor GP story in terms of pushing 699 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 3: that out there to a wider audience, Because my theory 700 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: with Motor GP, as much as we love it, it's 701 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 3: kind of the world's best kept secret to some degree 702 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: in that it's just this unbelievably brilliant sport as it is, 703 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 3: it maybe just needs to be sold and told a 704 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 3: little bit better. Is that what you're hoping that this does. 705 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 3: And in terms of the role that you might be 706 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: able to play in. 707 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: That, yeah, absolutely. I mean you look at obviously as 708 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: you say that Netflix series helps for what Liberty did 709 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: through the Netflix series and through their promotion of the 710 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 2: sport was rather than selling every race as a story, 711 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 2: they made people become attached to the personalities to the teams. 712 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: And I look at Alagorde at the moment and obviously 713 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 2: if I'm latting to them more often than I do 714 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 2: to my own mom and dad, there are huge personalities 715 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 2: in there which I don't think we managed to get 716 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 2: across well enough. And I know there'll be a lot 717 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: of fans out there scared about the growth of the sport, 718 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: and some people look at what's happened to Formula One 719 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 2: and maybe see that hardcore fans potentially have a sense 720 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 2: of being pushed out. But I think that the growth 721 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 2: of the sport can only be a huge benefit to it, 722 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 2: and Motor GPS different in a lot of ways to 723 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 2: Formula One. I think for the better. In the hardcore fans, 724 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 2: we will always look after because they've been such a 725 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: core supporter for so long. Getting those different faces eyeballs 726 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 2: onto the sport and with that more sponsorship, more finances, 727 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: the opportunity to go to different places around the world, 728 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: to have the opportunity to sell them on a bigger 729 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: market can only be of a huge benefit, and I 730 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: think that's the biggest thing. We've got great stories, we've 731 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 2: got great personalities. It's just trying to get that across 732 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 2: to the mainstream media and hopefully with their help that 733 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 2: can happen. It's not an overnight thing. It will take time. 734 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: You know, there are small changes happening at the moment 735 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 2: to try and benefit that, but nothing too serious at 736 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 2: the moment. All of the things that we've see right 737 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 2: now are all things that we're in the pipeline. Pre 738 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: liberty having some small impact on where we're going, like, 739 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 2: for example, I know that one of the key things 740 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 2: that they want to do is take me to GP 741 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 2: two cities to be able to get a bigger audience 742 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: in there. And I think last week we announced that 743 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: we're going to be going to there Is in twenty 744 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: twenty seven, which I think is a great thing. Into 745 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 2: the city, amazing place. So to have a circuit in 746 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 2: the middle of it will be fantastic one an atmosphere 747 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 2: and hopefully there'll be more of that. But it's easy 748 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: in formula one in inverted commas that in a month 749 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 2: they can do a circuit at Albert Park in Melbourne, 750 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: they can do a circuit on a strip in Las Vegas, 751 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 2: they can do it around a stadium in Miami. It 752 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 2: takes time for us because we have to have proper 753 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 2: facilities and proper circuits which spring up over night and 754 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 2: right now. Because there's no eyeballs, there's no not that 755 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 2: mainstream success. Nobody wants to be spending millions and millions 756 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,959 Speaker 2: of pounds on building circuits in the middle of city. 757 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 2: So it's a step by step process. But I can 758 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: only see it as a benefit and hopefully those personalities 759 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 2: are finally sold and people enjoy them as much as 760 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: we all do. 761 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, there you have it. But I think 762 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: like you pretty much has hit the nail on the head, 763 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: like you've sold me with that, so sure sign me 764 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: up for whatever you're selling there. 765 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 2: You're not going anywhere, Renita, I don't think prepare. I 766 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 2: think whatever happens, you're still going to be watching it 767 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 2: in a few years time. 768 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not sure we're allowed to go anywhere 769 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 3: and really to wait let me out, so I have 770 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 3: to keep doing this for the rest of time. 771 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Jack, thank you so much for joining 772 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: us on Pit Hook and A. Matt as always a 773 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: pleasure chatting with you, and thank you to Shannon's Insurance 774 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: once again for sponsoring this episode. If you guys want 775 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: to stay up to date with all the latest Moto 776 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: GP news, you can read Matt's articles at foxsports dot com, 777 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: dot Au, Forward Slash, and Motorsport. Plus you can check 778 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: us out on all the social platforms at Fox Motorsport everywhere, 779 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: and guys, don't forget to catch the Suzuka eight hour 780 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: live this weekend on Fox Sports and KO. We can 781 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: go and support our other favorite Jack, But for now, guys, 782 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: that is everything, and myself and Matt are going to 783 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: be back real soon with more Moto g P pit 784 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: talk