1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: The Relatables podcast is hosted by myself, Audie Clark aka Mummy, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: and my partner in crime is the Jake Craig aka Daddy, 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: who's still not here, but we're just thinking about it. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: I think this is the longest break we've ever had 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: from each other. It's well over a month. But next 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: week we are back together in normal recordings and that 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: will be the first episode back as this episode is 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: still another trip down memory lane. I really liked the 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: last one and how it turned out, I guess just 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: a bit of reflection and today's episode Jake has actually picked. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: But before we get into that, I just want to 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: plug our Patreon and this is probably the most important 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: plug there's ever been for our Patreon because it's the 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: last time you can ever get the membership for five 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: dollars and what you get is the next episode every 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: single week, and exclusive episode the book Club five days, 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: early extended versions of Dilemmas and other episodes, and the 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: community over there. The baddies over there are baddying, and 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: you can lock your price in for five dollars because 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: the prices are raising, And to touch on that point, 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: if you are already abaut your membership price will not change, 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: so lock that in before. We raised them in about 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: a week or two. But getting to the episode today, guys, 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Jake has picked it. He said, we were talking about 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: it and he said, I was like, oh, what's a 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: good episode that like you really remember, like left the 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: mark in your brain, And he said, the first time 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: we did the Bare Minimum four men. So this episode 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: came out in twenty twenty four on the thirteenth of May, 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: so it's a long time ago. And this kind of 31 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: started a bit of a snowball effect because the Bare 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: minim for men went super viral for us, which we 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: are very grateful for. And I think we got a 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: lot of new listeners from that. So we owe quite 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: a bit to the Bare Minimum four Men. And also, 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: I just guess the concept itself is I guess, sort 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: of putting men in their place, but also uplifting them 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: and telling them to raise their standards, like come on, 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: come on, so Battis, we will see you next week 40 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: back in our normal studio, but please enjoy the Bare 41 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Minimum for Men. Coming up on relatables was the bare 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: minimum for the modern man being there for cuddle time. 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: Ooh, I like that as much as we aren't. I mean, 44 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: I actually liked so. The bare minimum for the modern 45 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: woman is it's okay to be the big experience, sometimes. 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: Relatable. You are listening to relatables. Welcome back, everybody to 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: another episode today. I am joined on my right by 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: my better looking, shorter mister Jake Craig. That's started so good. 49 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: And to my left is the non car door opening 50 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: for his girlfriend Oddie class Hey, don't expose me, I 51 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: would like to point out, I don't. We went out 52 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: for dinner, Oddie. 53 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: My girlfriend. 54 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, Oddie, his girlfriend, me, my girlfriend, and some 55 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: other friends. 56 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: We were leaving, okay, I could see. I could see 57 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: them going to their car, and I could see that 58 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: he had forgotten, although he never does it, he had 59 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: forgotten to open her door for her. And then as 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: soon as I noticed she was going to have to 61 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: open it, it was too late. 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: I had to. 63 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: Called him out. 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: That's how did to help? 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: You? 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: See what I did? 67 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 68 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: So you jump in and open it through the other side, 69 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: you sucking cheat? 70 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Still did it? Wow? I do do it when I 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: pick it up in her house because it's like I remember, 72 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: because as we're walking out of her house, you get 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: out yeah, you see her card office her cardof First, 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: I would like to point out that we went and 75 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: picked up a puppy, yes the other day, and we 76 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: didn't take my car. 77 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: So my car, I drive a little tiny car, do 78 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: I didn't want to drive a three hours on the 79 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: freeway and but my car doesn't doesn't have the clickie fob. 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: I have to go manually, and so it works in 81 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: my advantage because I always remember to open the door 82 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: for her. Okay, But we used my girlfriend's dad's car, 83 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: and the first, like the morning we were leaving, was 84 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: the first time we were getting in it. I went 85 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: over and I realized. I was like, oh, I can 86 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: open it from here. And I opened it and I 87 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: had forgot. I was about to go open my door 88 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: and I forgot, and she also had like forgotten, but 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: I don't know how I did. I quickly locked it 90 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: again and she tried to open it and it wouldn't. 91 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: I went around. I was like, just be patient, and 92 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: so she didn't even know you forgot. I was about 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: to say, your key technique is kind of a cop out. 94 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: Is it, though? Because I don't forget. No, because you 95 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: have to do it anyway. You have to unlock her car. Now, 96 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: if I unlocked my door, it opens all the doors. 97 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so I can open So I do still 98 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: go open her door first? 99 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: Give you that? Yeah, how fun. I'll get better. But Jake, today, 100 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to start things with what's the bare minimum 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: for the modern man? Yeah? And I thought, because things 102 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: are changing in society, the standard for men is very different. Yeah, 103 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: so I thought we could compose a bit of a 104 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: list to help the dudes out there. I think that I. 105 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: Think there's there is some some women out there that 106 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: are saying like, no, no, no, I need I need 107 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: more than the bare minimum. Right, So we would like 108 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: to give you, guys, guys and girls the bare minimum 109 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: so you know that that's what you deserve. 110 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: And more exactly. Yeah, you want to start on me, 111 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: you go first. Okay, what's the bare minimum for the 112 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: modern man? Planning romantic dates? Often? 113 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: Hey? I like that simple. It's not hard, it's not hard. 114 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: It's really okay if you really think about it. Yeah, 115 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: some guys are just like, oh, I don't like doing that. 116 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I think who doesn't actually enjoy going out 117 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: for a nice dinner and you're also not doing it 118 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: for them? Yeah, you're not doing it for yourself. You 119 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: do it for them. And this is what you do. 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 2: TikTok nice nice restaurants wherever you live in my area. 121 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: Someone's made a video about it online book two weeks, 122 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: five minutes maximum. 123 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: And who doesn't like nice food? I love the. 124 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: Act of actually going out, getting dressed up together, looking 125 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 2: good together, gassing each other. 126 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: Exactly. 127 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: I've got a couple. I've got a few simple ones 128 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: and a few like a little bit more intricate, but 129 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go simple first, the bare minimum for the 130 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: modern man buy her flowers? 131 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Love it? Yeah? Simple? And again I've got the similar 132 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: one I said, grocery shopping. Flowers are little gifts here 133 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: and there randomly, just pick them up. It's not hard, 134 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: it's not hard at all. 135 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: And it's always like, yeah, but what's she gonna get me? 136 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: What's the guy version of flowers? 137 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: You know what? 138 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: Fucking nothing? We don't need that ship. 139 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: That's a great point. 140 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: Honestly, we've done it before. We've asked everyone what's the 141 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: guy with fucking nothing? 142 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: Just fair? I like that one. What's the bare minimum 143 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: for the modern man? Being an emotional outlet for your girl? 144 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: Oh when she's venting. No logical solutions, all right, no 145 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: logical solutions. Be there emotionally, yes, be there emotionally bare 146 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: minimum for the modern man. Look at what face creams 147 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: and other ship she uses. All right, and buy her 148 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: a double to have in your bathroom. Wow, pack atoletry's 149 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: bagge all the time. 150 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: That's so smart, that's all. Imagine you did that, and 151 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: then in. 152 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: Your bathroom she's You're at her house, maybe she's packing 153 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: a bag to come to your house, and you're and 154 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: she's and she's packing up. You're like, well, you don't 155 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: need that. You don't need that, you don't need that. 156 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: She's like why, and she's like, I have it at 157 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: my house for you. The only thing with that. Sometimes 158 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: it's very very expensive that stuff. I'm talking just like 159 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: face creams, like face wash. 160 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: I would even just say toothbrush and toothpaste, stuff like that. Yeah, 161 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: just simple things. I wouldn't go. 162 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: Look, I'm thinking like if it's if it's over thirty bucks, if. 163 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: You really loves it, some of those creams get us 164 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: like two hundred dollars. It's fucking crazy. 165 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got that Keels. Shit, I'm not paying I'm 166 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: not playing for keels. 167 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: What's the bare minimum for the modern man kind of 168 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: goes in hand with the last one. Being in touch 169 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: with your emotions. Yeah, being able to talk about how 170 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: you feel. Yeah, that's a big struggle for a lot 171 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: of guys. 172 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, yeah, sometimes it's a little scary. I think 173 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: the biggest thing for me is the one thing that 174 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: makes me not want to talk about feelings, Like, one 175 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: of the biggest things is that I just I'm so 176 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit scared about how they will react 177 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: because I don't want to word it improperly. Oh you 178 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: know what I mean, not being able to articulate it. 179 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to. 180 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't ever want to be like, oh you do this. 181 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: I might even changed being in touch with your feelings 182 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: to trying to be in touch with your feelings. Yeah. 183 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: I think it's the effort in trying to talk about 184 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: your feelings and they should appreciate that, even if you 185 00:08:59,040 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: do spit it out wrong. 186 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, agreed, bare minimum for the modern man went 187 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: at a restaurant pull her chair out for her? 188 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: Is that it? That's it? Yeah? 189 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: Just agree, gentlemen being a gentleman and pull the chair. 190 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: Agree, What is it. 191 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: When you're going up as a dude. I don't know 192 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: what goes on in your mind. It's not is it 193 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: not cool? Like when I was eighteen nineteen twenty, There's 194 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: no way in the world I'll be doing something like that. 195 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: Is it because I'm not confident? I honestly think it's 196 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: just because I didn't know. 197 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: But I knew the thing of romantics, Like you pull 198 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: the chair, I knew the chair. 199 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever been afraid to do that. 200 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: I think I just always forget. I've never I've never 201 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: thought that. 202 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: I think I was afraid. No afraid. 203 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: I don't think I was never afraid. I was just 204 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: always I just forgot it. 205 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny. 206 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: It's also a little bit awkward as all, because it's like, 207 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: so when you pull it out and she sits down, 208 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: do you then help her push it back in or 209 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: do you just let her scooch in on her own. 210 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: I've seen Russ from friends do it and he like 211 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: scooches you back in and it looks so awkward. We 212 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: don't want to be like, what's the bare minimum for 213 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: the modern man being there for cuddle time? Oh? 214 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: I like that as much as we aren't. 215 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I actually like that cuddle, so I'm hidden 216 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: miss Yeah, I'm sometimes there for it, sometimes not, but 217 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: being there for them because they like cut of time. 218 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: It's sort of the thing they grow fonder when they're together. Yeah, 219 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: it's in those moments of cuddling, whereas where grow fonder 220 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: when we're apart. Yeah, agreed, agreed, I do agree with you. 221 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of though, like I don't know, 222 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: just kind of you're a bit of a big teddy bear. Yeah, 223 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: just kind of like I don't know, just acting like 224 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: a baby almost. 225 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: Like you should add on yours the bare minimum for 226 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: the modern man. It's okay to be the little spoon. 227 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: It's okay to be. 228 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: The bare minimum for the modern woman. Is it's okay 229 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: to be the big spirit sometimes bare minimum for the 230 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: modern man. When you're done your meal at the restaurant 231 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: and she has a few bites left because you're always 232 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: going to finish before her, Yeah, you say you need 233 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: the bathroom, but you actually go pay the bill. 234 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: Yours are like just cheeky little things that are really smart. 235 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: That's really good because normally they're like, oh no, i'll 236 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: pay this, you want to split it? Let's avoid the awkwardness. 237 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: And then like basically, when you come back from the toilet, 238 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: she's done, you just like how you're ready to go. Yeah, 239 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 2: and then you get up to go and she goes, 240 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: what about the bill? 241 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: And sorted. You know, that's one thing wrong with that me. 242 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: If she goes what about the bill, I'll be like, 243 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: let's run. I just paid it. So she was like, 244 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: but then I seem like a bad boy. True. 245 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: True, he also looks cheap. 246 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, bad boy overrules. The cheapness was the bare 247 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: minimum for the modern man. Knowing what you want in 248 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: your future. 249 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: Oh oh that's such a good point. Every guy's kind 250 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 2: of like, I don't know what I want. I'm going 251 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: with the flow. Yeah, the words don't. 252 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: They don't lie like that. No, they just want to 253 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: know that. 254 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: They at least want to know if you plan to 255 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: get married one day, you want kids, and you want 256 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: to buy a house, or just the simple things. 257 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: And even if you don't tell them like say I 258 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: don't want to have kids. 259 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, be honest. 260 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, from the start, I don't be like, oh I 261 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, like you'll see what happens. 262 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: I actually really like that that's a really good one, 263 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: because I'm definitely guilty of doing it in the past, 264 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: like I don't know, I don't know I'm going to 265 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: be in two months, I don't know where I'm going 266 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: to be in a year, and just. 267 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: Giving them all this like you're going to be with me, 268 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: even I've never realized used to do that as well. 269 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: It's like I don't know what I'm doing this week. 270 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I don't even know what to have 271 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 2: for breakfast. 272 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: All right, bare minimum for the modern man? Tell us 273 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: she looks beautiful, Yes, you are beautiful. Tell her she 274 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: looks beautiful. Man, pretty beautiful, stunning, gorgeous, smart, anything like that. Yeah, 275 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: let's go intellectual as well. Yeah, let's go smart, impressive. 276 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. I'm proud to be your boyfriend. 277 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm lucky to be both. I'm lucky to be your boyfriend. 278 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: I admire you all that different stuf. Yeah, yeah, I 279 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: love you. 280 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: Rolls off the tongue. Dude, what's the bare minimum for 281 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: the modern man? Being able to take candid photos of 282 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: them without the masking? Okay, I'm sorry. 283 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: I would like to say, yes, that is something that 284 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: you should be able to do. Try again with the 285 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: try at least it's the effort being put in that 286 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: they will like. They will like the effort. And if 287 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: they say, oh, what are you taking photos for? Maybe 288 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: and like just be like, just say that you want 289 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: them for you. 290 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: Because I have. 291 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: A theory and I'm really sticking to it that girls 292 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: tell you that the photos you take are bad and 293 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: you have to take a million of them purely because 294 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: you're a boy and social media has told them the 295 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: boys can't take photos. I tend to agree, because I 296 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: swear to God, what I really want to do is 297 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 2: get me to take a photo her best friend to 298 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: take a photo, all right, the exact same one, all right, 299 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: and I want and she's gonna like the best friends 300 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 2: one for some reason, and she's gonna. 301 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: Hay mine and that's the exact same photo, exact same photo. 302 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: Bare minimum for the modern man. Send her funny memes. Yes, yes, 303 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: it's like another level to the relationship, and and reply 304 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: to her. 305 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: You should have put that one. Reply to her memes 306 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: another one, bare minim for the modern man. When she 307 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: sends you a text message of two questions in a row, 308 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: answer both of them. Don't just answer the most recent one. 309 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: Have you been caught out doing that? 310 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I fucking suck at that. 311 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: I need to answer both because on text on my 312 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: message you can like click up the thing reply to 313 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: this one. 314 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty Look, I'm pretty good at it. 315 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm good at it. 316 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: The person I'm not good at it with is my sister. 317 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: So at it doesn't matter. What's the bare minimum for 318 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: the modern man making an effort with their friends? Oh, 319 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: to know them. 320 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: Ship, that's a good I would say I lack in 321 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: that area. 322 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: I think so too a little bit. It's just like, 323 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: as a guy, I can definitely do better. It's just 324 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: like I don't know, just I don't know why we 325 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: don't do it. Yeah, I don't have an answer. 326 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: I kind of want just making an effort of you 327 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: want to be part of their life. 328 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: I guess it's not just being there, being present. 329 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if they have no friends and come lucky, 330 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: I'm our only friend. 331 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: My last one is bare minimum for the modern man. 332 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: Just use your brain, use your just in the situation 333 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: you're in, Just just use your brain. 334 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: Please. It's there for a reason. 335 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have it for a reason. You know right 336 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: from wrong? You know what's disrespectful? You know what's going 337 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: to make her happy, you know what's going to make 338 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: her sad. 339 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: Just use it. That's funny. Jake's last one was kind 340 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: of very responsible. Yeah, my one, on the other hand, 341 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: what's the bare minimum for the modern man being able 342 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: to make each other finish? 343 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, hopefully, hopefully. 344 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: Try try That's all you can do. Okay. Up next 345 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: is girl next Door or man eater? Jake, I wanted 346 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: to ask you to clarify what is a man eater? 347 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: What is a man eater? Okay? 348 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: A man eater is someone that looks like they're gonna 349 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: eat you up, spit you out, and break your heart. 350 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: All right, That's what a man eater is. 351 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: And the girl next door is a girl next door 352 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: is like I would say, you know that there's a song, 353 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: a Taylor Swift song where it's like she wears shorts, skirts, 354 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: I wear T shirts, She's cheer captain and I'm on 355 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: the bleachers. In that song, Taylor Swift is the girl 356 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: next door and she. 357 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: Is the man eater. 358 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: The girl that she says is she's describing and what 359 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: we do on YouTube, it's get send in a couple 360 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: of pictures and we've got to figure out whether or 361 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 2: not they are a girl next door a man eater. 362 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: So if you want some visuals, head on over to YouTube. 363 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: Otherwise the episode is going to be the same throughout. Okay, 364 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: our next contestant is there's no way I'm pronouncing that. 365 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: We've got as that can't be her name. There's no way. 366 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: Alf half Papa do Polu half half Papa Dopolu. Let's 367 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: call it Papa, Let's call it Papa. Papa said absolutely 368 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: love the podcast. Have my permission to use my instuaff 369 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: a Girl next Door versus man Eater? 370 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: Picture one, Picture one, hmmm, spicy the dress? Is that 371 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: the little cut inside like the torso? Do you know 372 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: what stands out for me? What's it called? Wing? The 373 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: stuff on top of your eyelid shadow vibes chuck it 374 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: ere like that orange eye shadow. Don't you reckon? 375 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: I feel like slick back with the ponies. I slip 376 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: back bun yeah, less man, need to slip back. Ponytail 377 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: is like I'm giving you something to hold on too. 378 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm reading all the signs, the eye shadow, that little 379 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: cut in her torso? Did that? Yeah? I'm going to say. 380 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: Picture one, Picture two, this is matrix is fun. 381 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: Let me tell it. It's the leather jacket. I've never 382 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: seen anything not gonna lie. I really like that. I 383 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: rate it. I really like that. I rate it. But 384 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: I tell you what I feel like. 385 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: If I asked around on a date, she'd she'd be 386 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: expecting five stars, you know, she'd be expecting me to 387 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 2: bring her like a fucking bracelet, like a guoccy bracelet 388 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: as a gear. It's the black and Black goals, black 389 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: sonnies would man, I'd want to dodge her like the 390 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: matrix I'm coming. And Picture three it's a bit of 391 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: like a I don't know what they've found, a flowy 392 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: flamingo he dress. 393 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: Like the flowers on the front. Were they flowers? What 394 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: do you call it? Like it's called like a tinsel. Yeah, 395 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: she's giving me like Russian model vibes. You know what 396 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: that vibe is. 397 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, man Eater All three was that our 398 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 2: first sweep? 399 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: I think it is a clean sweep, clean sweep of 400 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: man Eater the whole way, Papa or sorry, but we're 401 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: looking in manaid. The caption was Merry Christmas, you feel 402 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: the animals. That's man Ata as fuck. Agreed, Agreed, belave. 403 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: It to that. You know what to do if you 404 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: want to get rated. Submitted on Instagram. 405 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: Okay up. Next is the lemmas sent in by you guys, 406 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: and this one's title is juicy Tea Alert. Last year 407 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: my brother's twenty first I got tipsy and ended up 408 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: hooking up with a mutual friend. Before things he got heated. 409 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: I asked if he still had a girlfriend and he 410 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: said no, but the next morning he confessed he had lied. 411 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: Now he occasionally messages me begging for a repeat performance 412 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: because it was in quotes so good. I've told him 413 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: to back off unless he's single, but he's been persistent 414 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: until recently. Fast forward till today. He and his girlfriend 415 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: are no longer together, but still expecting a baby in November. 416 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: So do I spill the tea and tell his girlfriend 417 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: about his antics, potentially wrecking his future family plans? Or 418 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: do I just sit on the door, she said? Or 419 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: do I just sip on the tea and stay out 420 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: of it. I have zero interest in him sexually anymore, 421 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: but I can't help but wonder if I'm the only 422 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: one he's been getting cozy up to. What's your take? 423 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: WHOA wait? 424 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Okay, are they're not together anymore, the guy and the girl. No, 425 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: but they've got a baby, so like, potentially there's a 426 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: family going on there. 427 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: Look, because they're not together. Depending on how it ended, 428 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: she may have caught him cheating with someone else anyway, 429 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: and it's ended. I would say, does this girl say 430 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: she knows the girl? 431 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: No? I ah, okay? Should she just stay out of it? 432 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: You slept with him on a night out. 433 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: You didn't know we had a girlfriend, and then it 434 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: come out that he had a girlfriend. Really you kind 435 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: of if you were going to tell her, you really 436 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: could have should have told her then? Yeah, exactlytead of 437 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: waiting till now. 438 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: But does she have a right to know? Is the 439 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: girlfriend who's having her baby his baby? I mean, because 440 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: they're not together. No, she just sit on it? Should 441 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: she sit on it again? I'm kidding, I'm kidding, Im 442 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: kidding on gidding, on gidding. Should she sip on the 443 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: tea as she would say if I was her? 444 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: Okay, So I've just had sex with this guy and 445 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: as he would say, round of applause, was great. 446 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: He's asking to do it again. I'm like, no, you're 447 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: taking like this is the wrong thing to do. And out. 448 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: Fast forward. I find out they've broken up and they're 449 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: having a kid together. But I feel like there's something 450 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: in me that just wants to tell this girl what 451 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: a dad of the child's going to has been doing. 452 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if you should tell her in case they 453 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: do get back together in the future, I say leave it. 454 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,239 Speaker 1: You can leave it. 455 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: I say leave it because if they're a chance for 456 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: going to get back together in the future, that means 457 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: that kid's going to have a non broken family. 458 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: Good point. I would say, leave it. 459 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: I am agreeing it's unfortunately he's a shit dude, Yes, 460 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: but now there's. 461 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: A kid involved. I agree the benefit of the kid. Yeah, 462 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: leave it. Definitely leave it. Leave it, simple as that. Okay, 463 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: up next, Guys, we often preach for a man to 464 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: be in touch with their feelings and be an emotional 465 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: outlet for their girl. Yeah. 466 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: Notdy and I I wouldn't say we're the most in 467 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: touch of our feelings, but we do. 468 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: We do well. We preach trying and that's what we're 469 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: going to do right now. So we both going to 470 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: say a time when we've both been hurt in. 471 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: Life, and I would like to point out so we 472 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: get a lot of dilemmas about it. So I think 473 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: it's kind of like a cool It would be someone 474 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: that has a dilemma sitting that we may not have 475 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: read yet that's about them being hurt and maybe hearing 476 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: about us being hurt, and then how we dealt with 477 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: it or how we didn't deal. 478 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: With it good or or something. Yes, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah. 479 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: It's just opening up a little bit. And hopefully I've 480 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: never said mine. Really, he's going to go first. Yeah, thanks, Okay, 481 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: a time when I've been hurt. It's quite recent really, 482 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: So I've mentioned on the podcast before that my dad 483 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: has prostate cancer and there was a period of time 484 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: there where he wasn't looking that good. And however, right 485 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: now he's actually in remission and there's not many symptoms, 486 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: almost point zero, which is really really good. But there 487 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: was a period of time there where like it wasn't 488 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: looking good, and there on the cards were a timeframe 489 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: of how long you'd have left to live, and in 490 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: my head, I was I was thinking there's no I 491 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: was dwelling in my head that I might lose my dad. 492 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any way like any person 493 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: can ever prepare for that, and when I was really hurt, 494 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 1: it was just like thinking of what life would be 495 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: like without him. So my dilma hasn't really happened yet, 496 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: but it's something that every person will eventually have to 497 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: go through, and I don't think they can prepare for it. 498 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: And I don't think as a son, there's probably not 499 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: another man in the world I look up to rely 500 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: on and he's a shoulder to lean on other than 501 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 1: there's no other person I admire one dad, yeah, as 502 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: much as my dad, And I'd never have the I've 503 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: never had the thought before of like, what's my life 504 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: going to be like when my dad's not here? Do 505 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: you think about that? You know? And I was really 506 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: really sad, And every time I think about it even 507 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: brings my eyes to a little bit of a water 508 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: because I'm like reality, Yeah, it was nearly a reality, 509 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 1: and I'm not prepared for it, and I don't think 510 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: anyone ever can be prepared for it. And I was 511 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 1: just like, fuck, like this is just like life, Like 512 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: everyone goes through it and everyone gets through it, but 513 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: like I don't want to face that anytime soon. 514 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: Honestly, No, Yeah, that is ins I feel like, can 515 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: you even even let's say, when you're older, do you 516 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: reckon you're ever ready for it? 517 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I was like, surely everyone's parents 518 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: die and like when they're like thirty and then it happens. 519 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: But I don't think you can prepare for it. Yeah, 520 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: Like I'm twenty four almost and I'm just like twenty 521 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: fourth too early. Yeah, I think so, But it happens 522 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: to a lot of people. We've had friends who's lost 523 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: their parents. 524 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: We've got yeah, we've got quite a few actually, think 525 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 2: like five friends, I think so. Some of them have 526 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: lost their parents and then some of them have parents 527 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 2: with it. 528 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: And I was just I was just thinking to myself. 529 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: I was like, there's no possible way I can ever 530 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: be ready for this. No, And it made me really 531 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: sad to like what life would be like without this 532 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: man in my life. Yeah. Fuck man. My message would takeaway. 533 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: Just tell the people around you love them, and make 534 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: the most of them while they're here, because they're not 535 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: here forever. Get your prostate checked. Yeah, yeah, that's a 536 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: good thing for men, even though we don't have a 537 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: lot of men listening. Get checked early. I'm going to 538 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: have to because it's genetic it's a genetic thing. Yeah, 539 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 1: so when when will you get checked? When you get 540 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: checked at thirty, But I even might get it earlier. 541 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: I could. 542 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: I could have sworn that it was up to like fifty. 543 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 2: Now really I could be wrong, but. 544 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: All the a lot of things we can'cer if you 545 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: get it early, you can treat it, you can yeah 546 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, so. 547 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, well that's see, that's that's something you know 548 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: about Audi now this is Yeah, that's the thing. We 549 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: kind of I feel like we wanted to be some 550 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 2: some sort of personal on the podcast. Yeah, mine would 551 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: be this is it's also very personal. It's like but 552 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: it's like I don't know, it's kind of like. 553 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: Part of I guess my life, and. 554 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: Like because it also happened to me, I think it's 555 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: like I should be allowed to talk about it. I'm 556 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 2: going to go in like a series of events almost. 557 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: So Audio and I went traveling up I think I 558 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: think I've told you you're gonna know what I'm saying 559 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 2: for the first bit, and I think I have told 560 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: you the second bit. So Audio and I went traveling 561 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: up the East Coast, Australia. 562 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: And when we left they had a girlfriend and. 563 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: I was just like probably pretty young, pretty dumb, pretty immature, 564 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: and I just wanted to go traveling with body, and 565 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: then also didn't like want to have a time frame 566 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: and when I'd be home. And so this is what 567 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: I was telling her as well, like I was being 568 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: pretty fucking bad boyfriend of the sense of like I'm leaving. 569 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know when I'm coming back, and. 570 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 2: COVID was happening pretty heavily down here where we are, 571 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: and we were running away from it almost we were 572 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: getting pretty lucky, and so we were traveling and then 573 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: I don't I stayed together for the first couple of weeks, 574 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: and then we got to a place up in ne 575 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: thear Early Beach or up pretty fun north somewhere, and. 576 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: She ended up giving me an ultimatum like either either 577 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: come home or we're fucking breaking up. And so I 578 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: was like, well, I don't want to come home, and 579 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: and so then for the first so. 580 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 2: We broke up, and like I think I was like 581 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: I was like sad, but also like our relationship had 582 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: slowly been coming to an end, like I look back 583 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: at it now and I don't like, I mean, I 584 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't say a cringe, but I just look back at 585 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: it now and I'm just like. 586 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: We knew, one hundred percent. 587 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: We knew, and it's just funny to think how young 588 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: and done we were to hold onto it and not realize. 589 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: But this is what you do it. You always do 590 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: that when what you hold onto it for as long 591 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 1: as possible. 592 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: I suppose that's just what you do. Yeah, first love, 593 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: first proper love. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely thought so. 594 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: Ah. 595 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: So then after a few weeks of us breaking up, 596 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: I didn't even know, like I was sweet for a while, 597 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: and then I can't say how it happened, but I 598 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: just it's like a fucking literal switch in my brain 599 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: flicked all of a sudden, missed her, and then I 600 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: have a feeling what happened was. I think she just 601 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: messaged me by saying like hey, after a couple of weeks, 602 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: like hey, how are you, and the like that's what 603 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: I must I guess must have flicked the switch. 604 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: I remember, like your demeanor was a complete shift, like 605 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: it was weird, happy and bubbly, like traveling, and then 606 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: you're like, oh fuck, and I could see it. I 607 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: saw the change in you. 608 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. It was just I cannot even explain it, because 609 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: so then all of a sudden, I had this feeling 610 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: of missing her and thinking I fucked up. And then 611 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: and like randomly was like I'd rather be traveling, like 612 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'd rather fucking her, like fly up, 613 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 614 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: It was dumb. 615 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: And then and then so I called my step mom 616 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: and I was talking to her about it because I've 617 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: grown up with divorced parents, so I've had this skew 618 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: if view on it for the longest time, and like 619 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: if you're marriage and all that, and I thought that 620 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: I didn't want to be with anyone forever. I had 621 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: that whole thought process that we get dilemmas all the 622 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: time of like, oh, do I need to break up 623 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: with the person I'm with now because it doesn't really 624 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: work out when you're young in twenty and then do 625 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: I need to be alone for a while and grow 626 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: and then get in a relationship when I'm later in 627 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: my twenties and and then that's going to work out 628 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: because I have more life experience, Like that's what That's 629 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: what my mindset was. And so then I think she 630 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: like I was on the phone with my step mom 631 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: was crying and she was just like, hey, you just 632 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: got to do what you fucking want to do, Like, 633 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: if you want to get back together, whether just say 634 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: you want to get back together, what do whatever you 635 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: want to do. 636 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: She was like, she was good about it, and so. 637 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: Then I I think I told my girlfriend I want 638 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: to get back together. 639 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: She was like, oh, I don't know. My ex girlfriend sod. 640 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: I told my ex girlfriend I will get back to 641 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: She's like, oh, I don't know. And I was like, well, 642 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: I'll come home and I don't want to see you. 643 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: So I just de said to Oddie, don't want to 644 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: go home, which sucked. And then Audi was fucking so 645 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 2: good about it. 646 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: And then. 647 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: I went home, like, drove back down, went home. 648 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: And then when I. 649 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: Got home, I told her I was home and she 650 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm going through COVID. She was staying 651 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: at a family friend's place that she'd known since she 652 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: was like born and. 653 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Never thought of him as a threat, by the. 654 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: Way, and so she goes, okay, like cool, whatever, and 655 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: she went and she was staying there for the week. 656 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: So I got home for a full week I didn't 657 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: see her, and then she finally came home and we 658 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 2: saw each other blah blah blah hung out and then 659 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: in the end, like it was, she just was like 660 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: she just didn't want to and so I ended up 661 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: being like really heartbreaking from it from the breakup. And 662 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: then I think we were home for a while just fucking. 663 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: It was maybe a month had maybe a month after 664 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: I was home or something like that, and I do 665 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: remember this is what happened. Someone had messaged me on 666 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: Instagram as in like a kind of like it wasn't her, 667 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: it was just like a girl he had messed with Instagram, 668 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: and I was messaging you about it and I said, 669 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: I'm just not sure if I want to go through 670 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: with anything yet out of respect for X person max girlfriend. 671 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: And then Audie goes, I think, I don't know if 672 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: you said this, but he was kind of like, noah, 673 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: fuck that bitch. 674 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: I got something to tell you. I remember that. He 675 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh no, I don't remember. 676 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: He was like, she's been sleeping this guy from Sydney, 677 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: and I was like. 678 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: Oh no, I was so because I found out. I 679 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: found out and I didn't tell you because I knew 680 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: it would break her. And then this girl, like this 681 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: pretty girl, like I said, she wanted to hang out 682 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: with you and you're like, oh, I can't do it 683 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: out of respect, and then I was like fuck yeah, 684 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling him. 685 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: And so then he told me, you know, I was 686 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: made it worse. I was like heartbroken, heartbroken. I needed 687 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: to hear it obviously. I was like I was like heartbroken, heartbroken, 688 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: and so and then after it was like that was 689 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: really I would say, that's like the most heartbroken I've bin. 690 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: I remember telling my parents and like, because I just 691 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: knew that there was no way I was going to 692 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: be able to like how fucking depressed I felt. And 693 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: so I remember telling my parents what happened, and they 694 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: was sturdy new and then it was just kind of 695 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: like they were just like, yeah, fuck, it is what 696 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: it is. Like they were supportive, and I was just like, 697 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: you're actually is what it is. And so I just 698 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: ended up going about my days or whatever and I 699 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: just and it was just like fucking I just would like, 700 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: it's the most heart wrenching thing. And then so a 701 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: few months went by and we got up to Christmas 702 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: and I was still. 703 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: Like getting over it. 704 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: Ah, I definitely was nowhere near over her. This is 705 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty war and so twenty twenty one, and then 706 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: I found out that she started dating the guy and 707 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: I was like, holy shit. I was like, how did 708 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: you move on so quick? I was like, this is crazy. 709 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: I was like in my head, I was like, you 710 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: know what, fuck, I hope that does. 711 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: Not work out for you. 712 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: I was like, it doesn't work out. I was like, 713 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: you moved on too quick. I doesn't work out for you. 714 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. 715 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: So basically I was like heartbroken. I couldn't sleep for 716 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: the longest time because the heartbroken the first time, and 717 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: then I was starting to get good and then I 718 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 2: find out she starts dating this guy again. I went 719 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 2: through a few weeks of just shitty sleep. 720 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: I was sleeping shit heartbroken. And then. 721 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: My sister came to visit Australia for Christmas. And this 722 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: is the part that I was unsure about telling on 723 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: the podcast. My mom, for like a lot of my life, 724 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: has struggled with. 725 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: Addiction. 726 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 2: And when my sister came for she came from Canada. 727 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: When she came, she came out and then just I remember, like, 728 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: so I was still kind of fresh heartbreak. It's for 729 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 2: the second round of it finding out she dating the guy, 730 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 2: and then my sister comes in. Like the day after 731 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 2: my sister comes, she comes out to where I was 732 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: stat we're both in at my parents' house. She comes 733 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: into my room, she was like, have you spoken. 734 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: A And I was like what. 735 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: I was like no, She's like, oh, I was messaging 736 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: her she's and she's like fucking going on about how 737 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: she misses us, and then she's so sorry for everything 738 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: she's done to us, and I was like what. And 739 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: then she goes. And then I tried to call her 740 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: and tell her everything's all good, but she won't answer. 741 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 2: She won't reply, and Johanna said that in the message, 742 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: she implied like she's going to miss us, and I 743 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,479 Speaker 2: was like what. And so Johanna thinks that she's gonna 744 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: fucking kill herself, and so I started freaking out. And 745 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 2: for the longest time, I've had like a bit of 746 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: a broken relationship with her because I just have like 747 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: struggled to forgive, struggle to forget, and like I do 748 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: sometimes like I'm sure anyone that has the same thing. 749 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: He's like knows what I mean, But like you'd love 750 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: him because you love him, but sometimes you're just like 751 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: why the fuck can you not get it? 752 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 1: Under control. 753 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: But I remember trying to get a hold of my 754 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: mom and I was like fucking tried to call her 755 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 2: and call on her and coll on her Facebook and shit, 756 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: and she finally answered, she's like crying on the phone, 757 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 2: and I just remember being like I genuinely, genuinely was like, 758 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: oh fuck, like my mom's gonna kill herself because she's 759 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: just like relapsed and just can't handle it. And so 760 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 2: then eventually like we got a hold of my aunt 761 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: he that lives in the same town. She went over 762 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: there and she found her and like, my Mom's still alive, like. 763 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: She's all good. 764 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I just fucking remembered that mixed with 765 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: the heartbreak. I remember it breaking me and Joanna, my 766 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: older sister. She was kind of all good after that, 767 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 2: but I remember like I like was walking around, I 768 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: was like having like heart palpitations, and I went and 769 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: I sat down like in this weird like part of 770 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: my parents' yard, like hidden, and I just like fucking 771 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 2: cried for like ten minutes, and I was like, what 772 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: is going on? And then my dad eventually came around. 773 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: He was like, fuck, are you okay? And I just 774 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: was like I do I don't know how to take 775 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 2: this a it was like the weird I just couldn't anah, 776 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 2: and then I don't even know. 777 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: It's just like. 778 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: Why don't know. I went to therapy once and just 779 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: like haven't felt the need. 780 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: To go back. But that was years ago now, But 781 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 782 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: I just think like probably a good thing to air 783 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: out and people understand that. 784 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: You know. I guess we have problems too, Yeah, we do. 785 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,959 Speaker 1: We're not perfect by any means, no, yeah, just fucking yeah. 786 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: I think the hard I think giving advice on the 787 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: hard times is like we've been through them. 788 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: Too, I guess. Yeah, everyone has their own stories. What 789 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: we could open up about ours? Yours? Yeah, that's that's 790 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: a lot. And it's just a role on snowball effect 791 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of thing. 792 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what Yeah, it just made its heartbreaking than that, 793 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: And I was just like, holy sh it's like that thing. 794 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: It's always one thing after another when it rains a pause. 795 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 2: Yeah that's it. Yeah, out of the fucking yeah, you're right. 796 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: So sorry. If that was like a boring story, No, 797 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't boring at all. Boring, But I just I 798 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 1: think it's struggle. I think it's admirable how you opened 799 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: up because I know that's a hard thing for a dude, 800 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: don't you. Yeah, especially the second part for the longest time. 801 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the breakup thing, I don't care if that's out there, 802 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 2: Like the other thing is just it's just like I 803 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: was a bit if you about airing out family drama. 804 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think it's just I guess 805 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: everyone has it. That's the part of my life. Everyone 806 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: has it. And I think the more you talk about 807 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: it and say that you're okay now and your mom's okay. 808 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, And like I guess if I don't want 809 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: anyone to think, like fuck I hate Jake's mum without 810 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: knowing her, like like I love my. 811 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: Mom, Yeah, yeah, like I do. I love my mom. 812 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: And I'm going to Canada and all that, and in 813 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: I've been, I've been to Canada after that, and I'm 814 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 2: going again obviously in June this year. 815 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 816 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 2: I think it's just like I guess, I guess anyone 817 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 2: else that does deal with something like that, it'd be 818 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: interesting to know how they deal with it. Actually, to 819 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: be honest with you, I assume there's some people out 820 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 2: there that have had parents with struggle, and I always 821 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 2: am really with the work that my sister does. I 822 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: always so with the work that my sister does. You 823 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: hear about a lot of bat you with families, and 824 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: now I am like, I'm very like I understand that 825 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: stuff that I've been through is hurtful, but I also 826 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: have like this mad like gratefulness after hearing some stuff, 827 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: like I've always had a rif of a mad always 828 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 2: had clothes, never been hungry, I've always felt love for 829 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: my family. Like the only hurt that I feel is 830 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: that my mum struggles with these addictions. And just like 831 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 2: the love for us kids doesn't fix the addiction. But 832 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 2: then you come to feel like the addiction is a disease. 833 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: And but like I've never like I've never been hit. 834 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 2: I've always been yeah, like I've had a great upbringing. 835 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 1: Where each problem has the same magnitude to each person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 836 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: I think it's also it's good to normalize, Like, like 837 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: you said, we're not perfect. Everyone has. It's okay to 838 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: be hurt and it's good to talk about it. Yeah, 839 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: It's like it's just good to get it out of 840 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: your system. It's something so beautiful and when humans talk 841 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: and you feel better. It's like a weight lifted off 842 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: your heart, your chest, everything going on, but yeah, you 843 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: want to leave it on that yeah as well. Right, 844 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: Oh guys, thanks for listening. 845 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 2: Everybody, go five stars on Spotify because they AGREETHM boosted. 846 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: Subscribe on YouTube. If you're watching on YouTube, we love 847 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: you very much, and go sub to Patreon. Do get 848 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: Patreon for more content. Every week. There's a lot of 849 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: content over there where. 850 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 2: Content is coming out of us. And finally, we will 851 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 2: see you on Wednesday. 852 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: Wednesday. 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