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Speaker 1: people of the Eur Nation.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the Real Story with Joe Hildebrand

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Speaker 2: as opposed to the Real Story with Joe Biden. I

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Speaker 2: don't think Joe Biden even knows what the story is

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Speaker 2: real or not. And he is gone. There is no

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Speaker 2: real story with Joe Biden because there is no Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that very very shortly. Also, coming up,

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Speaker 2: what's going on with news Poul Now the voters seem

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Speaker 2: to hate Albow and Peter Dutton. They just hate everybody.

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Speaker 2: There might actually be a party that's coming up to

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Speaker 2: try to take advantage of that. Plus, we'll be talking

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Speaker 2: to our very special guests, Tim Blackwell and Michelle Stevenson

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Speaker 2: from this little radio station you might have heard of.

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Speaker 2: It's called Nova. Apparently they're the biggest show in the

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Speaker 2: country anyway, point being, for a while they were no

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Speaker 2: show at all. The outage came for them and was

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Speaker 2: about to wipe their show off their air. So how

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Speaker 2: did they save it and get on tracks so that

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Speaker 2: people could actually listen to Fat Boy Slim again? It

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Speaker 2: was almost aged And we'll get to all that very shortly.

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Speaker 2: But First, the biggest story in the world now, as

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Speaker 2: the entire world was both incredibly shocked but not at

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Speaker 2: all surprised to learn this week Joe Biden has pulled

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Speaker 2: out of the race to become the next president of

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Speaker 2: the United States in America. We'll get to all the

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Speaker 2: fallout to that and what that means now with Kamala

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Speaker 2: to have a very quick rant now. The only reason

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Speaker 2: why Joe Biden quit the race was not because of

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Speaker 2: some altruistic sense of moral duty or duty to his

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Speaker 2: was forced to. So this is not a heroic act.

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Speaker 2: This is not someone who selflessly put the interests of

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Speaker 2: ahead of their own personal interests. This is someone who,

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Speaker 2: along with those around him in his very inner circle,

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Speaker 2: time to go otherwise things really would turn nuclear. That

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Speaker 2: he bows out, And how does he bow out? He

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Speaker 2: doesn't arrange a press conference, arrange of speech from the

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Speaker 2: out a tweet. And of course, as soon as he

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Speaker 2: Their heads are spinning on what hang on? What I

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Speaker 2: of his campaign was swearing black and blue that he

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Speaker 2: And then Joe Biden so selflessly, nobly, honorably makes a

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Speaker 2: That is something you only do out of spite. It

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Speaker 2: In fact, it's an act he should have performed weeks ago. No,

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Speaker 2: where they're right or not. But they're the ones out

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Speaker 2: Of course, she has to then go to the Democratic convention,

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Speaker 2: And so by him saying that he's supporting Karmla, the

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Speaker 2: Karmala Harris is still behind Donald Trump. And Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: obviously and his campaign have been preparing to beat Karmala

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Speaker 2: Anyway, you go to this website, it's called five thirty

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Speaker 2: on polling day. Another interesting figure is do Americans want

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Speaker 2: as their primary vote. So the Coalition primary vote in

431
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Speaker 2: this latest news bowl went up by two points. It

432
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Speaker 2: got to thirty eight. That's of course for both the

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Speaker 2: Liberal Party and the National Party, whereas Labors ticked up

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Speaker 2: so again it went up one point two thirty three.

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Speaker 2: And of course this is why Labor relies on all

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Speaker 2: those Greens preferences. The problem is the Greens ain't playing

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Speaker 2: nice no more. The Greens have now said openly, and

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Speaker 2: they've been saying it for some time, but they're really

439
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Speaker 2: aggressively declaring it. They're shouting it from the rooftop now

440
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Speaker 2: that they want to eat out Labor. They want to

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Speaker 2: attack Labor from the left, take its seats and replace

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Speaker 2: it as the party of opposition. The Greens seem to

443
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Speaker 2: think that this would mean that they would be the

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Speaker 2: dominant party in a coalition between themselves and the Labor Party.

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Speaker 2: But they also seem to admit that they have to

446
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Speaker 2: win in their own right because they know that Labor

447
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Speaker 2: would just do preference deals with the Liberal Party, So

448
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Speaker 2: they can't even seem to make up their own mind

449
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Speaker 2: what they're trying to do or what the outcome would be.

450
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Speaker 2: And of course Labor wants as little to do with

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Speaker 2: the Greens as possible, even though it does rely on

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Speaker 2: Green's voters preferencing the Labor Party ahead of the Liberal Party.

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Speaker 2: So it's pretty ugly. We've had the Green's housing spokesman

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Speaker 2: Max Chandler Matha come out this week and say he

455
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Speaker 2: wants the value of your house to go down. Yes,

456
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Speaker 2: he wants people's primary most people's primary investment, the one

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Speaker 2: thing they own. It's pretty much all I own, the

458
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Speaker 2: house or the bank owns. They want the value to

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Speaker 2: go down, which of course could be economically catastrophic, but

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Speaker 2: then again, so could so many Greens policies. Now an

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Speaker 2: interesting thing, I have been talking to another group of

462
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Speaker 2: people and you'll hear more about this next week, who

463
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Speaker 2: are plotting to do to the Greens what the Greens

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Speaker 2: are doing to the Labor Party. And they're doing it.

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Speaker 4: You've already kind of sort of nibbling a bit here

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Speaker 4: and there. They can do it by taking votes off

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Speaker 4: the Greens, but also taking votes off other minor parties

468
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Speaker 4: like One Nation. What sort of a behemoth takes votes

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Speaker 4: off the Greens and One Nation? You'll find out all

470
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Speaker 4: about that next week.

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Speaker 2: And of course, the other big story this week, the

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Speaker 2: other thing that happened was the thing that didn't happen

473
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Speaker 2: ie pretty much everybody's computers. Sucks to be a Povo

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Speaker 2: Microsoft user. The outage this, of course, wiped out just

475
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Speaker 2: about every computer device that wasn't owned by an Apple

476
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Speaker 2: loving hipster. And one of the people affected is sitting

477
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Speaker 2: before me right now. Despite the fact he is an

478
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Speaker 2: Apple loving hipster. You might know him as one third

479
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: of the popular Nova Drive show Tim and whoever else

480
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Speaker 2: is his co host this week about that is what

481
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I can't keep up. I'm too old

482
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Speaker 2: for this stuff. We're both just so the listener can

483
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Speaker 2: picture in their mind, we are both middle aged men

484
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Speaker 2: wearing added as samba shoes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so who wore it better? We'll put a little instam.

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Speaker 2: The difference is that Tim is carrying a one leader

487
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Speaker 2: Stanley cup and I am not.

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Speaker 3: Guess what this is pip edwards indoors two look at

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: Because that means you have to go to North bond

491
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Speaker 2: I outdoor gym and just you know, just do a

492
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Speaker 2: few squats. But what what was going on? Because I

493
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: know at the Telegraph paper nearly didn't come out. The

494
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Speaker 2: editor was actually on leave and came back in.

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Speaker 3: Tens of people would have been destroyed by that.

496
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Speaker 2: Tens of people would disturb At Sky it's a big,

497
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Speaker 2: big future in newspapers. By the way, lot going on.

498
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Speaker 2: We've got some we've got some big ideas. We're going

499
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Speaker 2: to now deliver them by horse and tart just to

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Speaker 2: really tap into that market.

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Speaker 3: Milk and a gas bottle, that's right.

502
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Speaker 2: Sky News my TV channel I worked for from time

503
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Speaker 2: to time. They I think nearly went off the air

504
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Speaker 2: for a while, or did go off the air for

505
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Speaker 2: a while and for solid you know, fifteen minutes. I

506
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Speaker 2: didn't know what was Chris Bowen's fault.

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Speaker 3: Did you think like us though, because we were that

508
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Speaker 3: up ourselves that we thought we personally had been hacked.

509
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Speaker 3: So I was walking around like if the three thirty

510
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Speaker 3: going Southern Cross on stereo, I've hacked us, yea, or

511
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Speaker 3: the Kiss have finally decided to get us off the

512
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: yesterday and so you're really make it really about you,

513
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: that's right? And then you realize, no, it's not about

514
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Speaker 3: us at all the world.

515
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Speaker 2: Just like everyone everyone else in the world that I

516
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: was actually at Cole's Supermarket and I was doing we

517
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Speaker 2: totally run out of food?

518
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Speaker 3: And is this a bit like where were you when

519
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Speaker 3: you found out Diana died? Like this is going to

520
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Speaker 3: be the new strange.

521
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Speaker 2: I was also at cole Supermarket when Diana died. I

522
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: that's right. I've now got pr people, for the love

523
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: of God just could just not go to the shops

524
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Speaker 2: this week. I got a big god a break cut

525
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: out of the tragic but but yeah, and the announcement

526
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: came out of the loud speaker. Can everyone please evacuate

527
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Speaker 2: the self served checkout? I of course don't think evacuate.

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Speaker 2: It's quite a strong word.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, awesome, Finally I'm going to be in the

531
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Speaker 2: front row of a terror attacked. You know, BBC is

532
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Speaker 2: going to be calling me up and saying, where were

533
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Speaker 2: you when you lost your legs.

534
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Speaker 3: I was buying out trust tomatoes. That's putting them through

535
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Speaker 3: regular tomatoes.

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Speaker 2: Well, there very nearly was a terror attack because we

537
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Speaker 2: had so run out of food. We're literally doing like

538
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Speaker 2: a five hundred and something dollar shop. I was huge,

539
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Speaker 2: was the trolley was overflowing. I was stacking things on

540
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Speaker 2: my son's head and saying hurry. And so we're they're

541
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Speaker 2: at the normal checkout, so only the manned checkout.

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Speaker 3: I think it's person person checkout.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the chicks checkout. And so we're there and it's

544
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Speaker 2: like a mountain of food, like you know, a month's

545
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Speaker 2: supply for a frame of a and then suddenly all

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Speaker 2: these people from the self check out come over and

547
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Speaker 2: there's like someone with just like you know, one can

548
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Speaker 2: of being standing behind it. I'd let you through that

549
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: we were here first and as an emergency anyway. So

550
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Speaker 2: what goes through your head when that happened?

551
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Speaker 3: So it was about ten past three in here, and

552
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: I was here because I've been here for twenty three years,

553
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: so where I've always been just here and Jermaine, our

554
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: tech guy, said, oh, I said, got the computers down,

555
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: and I made one of those real like classic like,

556
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: I put my sarmbers up on the desk and I said,

557
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: I's got microphones, mate, We're a radio show, you know, school,

558
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: And so I made up panel it myself and it

559
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: turns out it was true. So look, without sledging, our competitors,

560
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: basically Kiss, I think, had a pre recorded show already,

561
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: so they were able to put some of that to air.

562
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: A lot of the people had emergency taps going. What

563
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Speaker 3: I loved about our texts Robbie, Luke and Lucky. Firstly,

564
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Speaker 3: how thankful I was they didn't have plans on Friday

565
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Speaker 3: night so I could stick around and help us out.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the text, but they kind of put all

567
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Speaker 3: their efforts into getting us on the air more than

568
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Speaker 3: fixing the problem. Yes, So I called Rick recularly and

569
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Speaker 3: she came in early. So we got on air about

570
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Speaker 3: three forty and I'm sitting right where I was now

571
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: and Brendan, our boss, said, look, I'm gonna patch you in.

572
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Speaker 3: It's going to be two microphones and your laptop. Are

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Speaker 3: you okay with that? And I said, yeah, I'm okay

574
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Speaker 3: with that. So I had to turn all my Incoornito

575
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Speaker 3: browsers off, turn on mode, turn on save mode and

576
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Speaker 3: light up my Spotify. So what was happening was I

577
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: had one fader for anyone who understands like I had

578
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: only one fader to work with. There was no cross fading,

579
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Speaker 3: double song hits. We're playing songs and just talking. And

580
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Speaker 3: then we got this promo out of it Friday along

581
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Speaker 3: precedented global IT outage, shutdown computers across the world.

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Speaker 2: Major breaking news, inspecting millions of people.

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Speaker 3: Across the look equally fine looking devices, biggest IT outage ever.

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Speaker 5: So the billboards in Times Square here went.

585
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Speaker 3: Dark, dark, dark, bringing everything from banks, airlines and essential

586
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Speaker 3: services to a squeaking holt well almost everything and incident.

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Speaker 5: The entire system is down.

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Speaker 1: We are down all around the country, and we're in

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Speaker 1: control of the music.

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Speaker 5: We are the captains of this ship.

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Speaker 3: I have my laptop connected to the network.

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Speaker 5: This is terrifying because I know what you look up

593
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Speaker 5: on your.

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Speaker 3: Laptop when things go wrong, when the world is crumbling

595
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Speaker 3: down around you. As long as the MIC's work and

596
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Speaker 3: we've got a radio station, you can always rely on Ricky, Lee,

597
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Speaker 3: Tim and Joel weekdays from four. So we'll be milking

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Speaker 3: this view.

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Speaker 2: That is amazing. That's made me believe again. Yeah, I

600
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Speaker 2: believe in Freedoware radio again. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well there was no ads podcasting, well, yes there was that,

602
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Speaker 3: so there was no ads, so I was actually to

603
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Speaker 3: compete with the ABC finally, right, how do you cook

604
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: the perfect steak? Texting now, so we're getting texts and dms.

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00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: And then the other thing was we had the no

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Speaker 3: Overplayer app, which your podcast is also available on, and

607
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: people couldn't hear it through there because it was that

608
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: much of an outage. So we were using Jermaine our

609
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: socials to actually push people to broadcast, so people are

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Speaker 3: having to go and sit in their cast listen. And

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00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 3: then Ricky's husband Rich, they didn't have an actual radio

612
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: in their house, so he went to JBHIFA real quick

613
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Speaker 3: in the city Border Radio and listen to us.

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Speaker 2: This is an insight into how humanity is going to

615
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Speaker 2: live after the electromagnetic pulse comes and wipes out all technology.

616
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: And you'll be there on stay here, You'll be there

617
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: on the desert island building your ham radio out of wood.

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00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: Like Christian Slater. He'd pump up the volume. But can

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Speaker 3: I Getchell because Michelle seons and you want to know

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Speaker 3: from because thank God for her, because I actually even

621
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Speaker 3: we had the old school Nova News theme which was

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Speaker 3: right here, right now by Fat Boys Steam. I was

623
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Speaker 3: playing that. And then we're only on our in Sydney

624
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: at the start, but half now later Melbourne came on board,

625
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Speaker 3: then Brisbane, then Adelaide and then we didn't get Perth.

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Speaker 3: But the facts belonged to this lady here.

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Speaker 2: Michelle Stevenson, first time call, longtime listener.

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Speaker 5: I mean, well, we know each other pretty well.

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Speaker 3: I know each other very very well, and I knew

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Speaker 3: are you wearing the Midlife Crices shoes? Like both?

631
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: God, yes, we're all wearing sambas. It's so incredibly sad. Yeah, no,

632
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: wonder we're all single? What wait, hang on anyway, it's

633
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: only a matter of time. Point being you are. You

634
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: are the sensible one. You are the news boss lady.

635
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what kind of sometimes.

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00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: What do you do when the biggest news story is

637
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Speaker 2: something that has killed the news?

638
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we do what we do best. We just

639
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: put the mics on and just riff about it. But like, honestly,

640
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Speaker 1: what was really complicated for me was I had information.

641
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: I was armed only with an iPhone and I had

642
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: information coming in. But of course we can't really delineate

643
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Speaker 1: in what is true and what is what is fact

644
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: and what is fiction at this point.

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Speaker 2: So it's pretty much like all twenty first century media.

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Speaker 3: Although the first thing you tell me was stop blaming Microsoft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it did affect Microsoft, but you know,

648
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: there was rumors that was CrowdStrike. But for me too,

649
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: I couldn't like kind of say it definitively was CrowdStrike

650
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: until I had other people reporting on that, and.

651
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: Also until you've checked to all your sponsors.

652
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: Are that's right? Yeah, CrowdStrike?

653
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: Are they one of us? Okay? Yeah, those bastards.

654
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: But ironically, one of the things that I had said,

655
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, we all know the right wingers are

656
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: going to say it is something to do with Trump

657
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: or not what something to do with Trump and shut

658
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: him down, trying to shut him down because the Republican

659
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Convention was on, And ironically I started seeing on Twitter

660
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: that night they were they were linking the head of

661
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: CrowdStrike with the Democrats.

662
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 2: Who's is it? Is it the Democrats? Is it Zelensky?

663
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 2: Is itat?

664
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: It is everything?

665
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's got to be somebody.

666
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: Carmela can only say that name a huge.

667
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: I know, I don't think it exists in any other accent.

668
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: I don't think.

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00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 3: It's like Craig.

670
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 2: But also I love I love how when it first

671
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: came on the scene because everyone says Kamala, which is wrong.

672
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: It's Karmela.

673
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 5: No, it's Kamla.

674
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: And when she first came on the scene four years ago,

675
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: they were almost like kind of like explainers on how

676
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: to pronounce it, and the closest anyone could get was,

677
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: it's like Pamela. But if Pamela was pronounced Pamela, and

678
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: that's how you get to Carmla. She's not even normal

679
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: name adjacent. She's like two steps away before you get there.

680
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: It still doesn't even make sense.

681
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: When the guy from nine to two and I came

682
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 3: out and we had to go on Iron's earing, what's

683
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: going on in the American name?

684
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: That's because they are all like to like strippers, like

685
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: to name their children like all their daughters that named

686
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: was like Brandy but like spelled b W.

687
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: You underscore.

688
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 2: Br double A M D. You are, as you correctly

689
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 2: pointed out one third of the Ricky, Lee, Tim and

690
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 2: Joel show, you never seem to get your name first,

691
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: no matter how many changes you're always just in the middle. Yeah,

692
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: but you're kind of the leader, aren't you. You're the matrix.

693
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 3: You you know, you can say that because they're not here.

694
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 5: No, exactly, that's right.

695
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

696
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: And it's not like this is going to be recorded

697
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: and broadcast in any anyway.

698
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's it.

699
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: It's not what we do here. No, it's not that

700
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: Friday up. But you know, you know how to do

701
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: all the technical stuff, you know.

702
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 3: Yes, that was the thing. I was in here. But

703
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: literally I have my laptop with an ox cord. Remember

704
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: those parties where you used to they called oxcord politics,

705
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: where's like my turn out stick, your oxcrded to play

706
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 3: the music?

707
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 2: I think we led to different parties.

708
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: I was playing music out of the out of my

709
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: Spotify and then I had my phone just like you did.

710
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: And then that was it. And when Jamaine ou Social

711
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: Guys was here, Ricky was over there, and Michelle was

712
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: over there, and it was literally like this little.

713
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: Hectic and did you feel a bit?

714
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 3: I felt so powerful, so annoyed actually that at six o'clock,

715
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: Ricky and I were like, let's order the pizza's, got

716
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: a pot of coffee, and was staying at midnight. No, no,

717
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: the next shows where to go?

718
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: We were so ready to but you must have felt like,

719
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: you know, I've been waiting twenty years. This is my time.

720
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is now.

721
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: You're going to see you. You know you fly by

722
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: night as you sworn in, you make a couple of

723
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: jokes out, you walk out. You think that's radio name.

724
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: No, this is radio Masters. The other times I think

725
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: was obviously when COVID started, we came in here and

726
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: did like these long shows. I got Karl and everyone

727
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: and just to help out for favors, and then everyone

728
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: came in every weekend anyway because it was But then

729
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: the other time I felt really powerful with radio was

730
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 3: within the Queensland floods because I did the Brisbane Breakfast

731
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 3: show during the floods and over one or six point

732
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: nine got flooded and you weren't allowed on the streets.

733
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: There were army kind of army tanks and stuffed like

734
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: liaising with people on street. So we got we got

735
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: escorts to the studio. We went to four BC or

736
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: four KQ.

737
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: Or a K.

738
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: Now it wasn't some with the K worse than by

739
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: in this little bunk of broadcasting there. So radio is

740
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 3: like it's always it's always the medium that people turn

741
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: to because we can literally plug in from a laptop

742
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: and broadcast around the country.

743
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: At the end of Terminator three, when the nuclear bomb

744
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: is activated by the machines and they're trapped in the

745
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: underground bunker, where does the message come from? Right, there's

746
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 2: no TV there.

747
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: We did get parties didn't.

748
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: But but you do see the power of radio, and

749
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: this is what we live to do.

750
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 5: This is why we choose radio because we know it

751
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 5: is a medium.

752
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: There's an immediacy to it. You get to talk directly

753
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: to the listener podcast.

754
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: Because they can talk about it a week later.

755
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you mentioned something something very podcastory, which

756
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: is you're armed only with an iPhone? Yeah, as did

757
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: you mean that ironically or no?

758
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: Literally, because like, of course we had no access to computers.

759
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: But do do you feel like like I don't want

760
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: to get it or boomer on you? Yeah, but like

761
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: like there is more computing power in an iPhone now

762
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 2: than there used to be in like all of right,

763
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: all of the Pentagon.

764
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: But I'm I was literally I didn't I couldn't type anything,

765
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't do anything.

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00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 5: I was literally reading.

767
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: News and going between pages and scan and reading and

768
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: doing ad libbing at the same time and making it

769
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: sound like it was a proper news bulletin.

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00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 5: Okay, it's the art of.

771
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: Like slim underneath you remember that that was cool?

772
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Tim was I think I think

773
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: it was just trying to like make sure I could

774
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: do my job without laughing, like I'm going to throw

775
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: fat boy slim while you read your.

776
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: I would have preferred the Jesus Jones right here, right now,

777
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: as there's no other.

778
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: That's a nice one.

779
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: That is good just for the next time. A criticism,

780
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: just a for the.

781
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: Next time, next time, next worldwide power.

782
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: Do you think the art of of what we did

783
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: on Friday is that, no matter how hard we may

784
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: have been working, like our legs were working, the on

785
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: top part was still quite calm and.

786
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: No one seemed to be stressed. No one was stressed.

787
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: Everyone did their job like a duck, literally like a duck.

788
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 1: You're literally like you know that you've got this, You've

789
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: worked so many years in radio, knowing what you do,

790
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: and it just was able to make it happen.

791
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: And then afterwards you were like a duck in Chinatown.

792
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: That completely hanging in a window somewhere.

793
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm done, and now to my favorite part of the podcast.

794
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: It's question time. Get it because like it's about politics

795
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: and questions. Politics as question time and you have your

796
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: question and you get to ask me questions, and that's

797
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: what time it is. It's time for you to ask

798
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: the question now. At least from Instagram has written in.

799
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: She says, Hi, Joe high Else, I don't know much

800
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: about Kamala Harris. What does she stand for? Why she

801
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 2: liked or unliked? It's a very good question at least,

802
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: So Kamala Harris has basically done not much at all

803
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: except be a loyal Joe Biden vice president. She owes

804
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: her entire political survival to him. She did not pick

805
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: up I don't think a single vote in the Democratic primaries.

806
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: She performed so badly that she dropped out almost instantly.

807
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 2: And then it is said, obviously very unkindly that Joe

808
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: Biden picked her because as an old white male, he

809
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: needed a younger black female to kind of balance out

810
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: the ticket, and that she was a diversity pick. I

811
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: don't think that's entirely fair, because before Krmala Harris did appallingly.

812
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: At the Democratic primaries, she was touted as the next

813
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: big thing. I remember we had a futurist on Studio

814
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 2: ten back in the day who said that Krmala Harris

815
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: would be president otherwise the world would end or something

816
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: like that. Anyway, he's kind of almost halfway getting to

817
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: be right. But I don't think that will happen, unless,

818
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: of course, Joe Biden decides he can't even continue to

819
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: be US president anymore, let alone the candidate for president

820
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: next time round. Karmala Harris had one job. She had

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00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: one job, and that was to control the flow of

822
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: illegal migration on the southern border of the United States,

823
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: the border with Mexico, the famous border that Donald Trump

824
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: was of course going to build a wall from one

825
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: end to the other of if you are Donald Trump,

826
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: he did build a wall. I don't know if anyone

827
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: else can see it, but apparently it's magically appeared. And

828
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: apparently Joe Biden tore down that wall like Donald Reagan

829
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: told Mikhail Gorbachev to do. Point being, there is a

830
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: huge influx of migration from or rather through Mexico to

831
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Speaker 2: the United States. This is something that makes people very

832
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: very anxious, as I'm sure you can imagine as it

833
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: does here. And this is something that Donald Trump brings

834
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: up in just about every single appearance he makes, every

835
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: single speech he makes. You know, whatever subject he's talking about,

836
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: he manages to introduce illegal migration into because it is

837
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: such a hot button issue, and Kamala Harris's job was

838
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: to stop that from happening. So the one big job

839
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: she had she was colloquially referred to as the border Zar,

840
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: and that zar did not do whatever zars do, it

841
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: didn't work. So other than that, her values really speaking,

842
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: you know, she's been described as a sort of typical

843
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: Californian progressive, which again is the sort of stuff that

844
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 2: people are in Middle America. You know, the flyover states

845
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: they're sometimes called because people from California and New York

846
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: only know them from flying over them from one to

847
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: the other. There's this sort of stuff that tends to

848
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: turn those people off, which is why again she's trailing

849
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: Donald Trump in these swing states of traditional blue collar

850
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: workers that were once Democrat voters but have now flipped

851
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: to the Republicans. So the good news, I suppose for

852
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 2: all that is that Karmala Harris almost has apart from

853
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: the border Shimozzle that she's presided over. She almost has

854
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: a kind of clean slate to sort of reinvent herself

855
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: and to say, right, this is who I am, this

856
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: is what I stand for. But a lot of the

857
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: time when she sort of does that, she uses these

858
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: in naane phrases like you know, leaving the past behind

859
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: to build the future. And it's just terrible. She sounds

860
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: like she sounds like Megan Markle. It's just awful. But anyway,

861
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 2: maybe she can turn that around. Matthew from Sanctuary Point

862
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 2: has written in high there, Joe, Hi there, Matthew there,

863
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: dem scene to be really pushing the youth vote. Do

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Speaker 2: you think this will have an impact? That is an

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Speaker 2: excellent question. And the most important thing in a US

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Speaker 2: election is not just to get people to vote for you,

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Speaker 2: it's to get people to vote at all. It's called

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Speaker 2: getting out the vote. And again, they have a voluntary

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Speaker 2: voting system, unlike here where we have a compulsory voting system.

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Speaker 2: So in Australia, and this is what makes us very

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Speaker 2: very stable as a democracy but also kind of a

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Speaker 2: bit boring sometimes. But still even the most apathetic person

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Speaker 2: has to go out get their name crossed off the role,

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Speaker 2: and then as long as they're there, they might as

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Speaker 2: well vote, and virtually everyone does. There's a handful of

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Speaker 2: you know, way over ninety percent of people vote. You

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Speaker 2: don't have to. Once you got your name crossed off

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Speaker 2: the role. You can donkey vote. You can write something

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Speaker 2: on the ballot paper and stick it in if you know,

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Speaker 2: you can draw a cock and balls. You can do

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Speaker 2: whatever you want and nobody's going to know it's you,

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Speaker 2: because course is completely anonymous. But your name gets crossed

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Speaker 2: off the role and you don't get your twenty dollar

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Speaker 2: fine or whatever it's up to. These days in America,

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Speaker 2: often a bit over fifty or sixty percent of people

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Speaker 2: will actually even show up to vote. So what you

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Speaker 2: want to do is get people energized. Often that means

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Speaker 2: getting people angry or getting people worried about something that's

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Speaker 2: going to happen. And that's why issues that never pop

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Speaker 2: up in politics here dominate American elections. And one of

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Speaker 2: those issues are just mentioned is illegal immigration. Another one is,

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Speaker 2: of course abortion. This is something that gets people really

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Speaker 2: really fired up. People are either really really pro life

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Speaker 2: or they're really really pro choice, and that gets out

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Speaker 2: the vote and you can expect that to be a

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Speaker 2: hot button issue. And another one is, of course guns.

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Speaker 2: And you know, most people in America would probably support

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Speaker 2: greater gun control, but the people who demand access to

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Speaker 2: their guns, that will be the most important issue to them.

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Speaker 2: So they will come out and they will vote on

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Speaker 2: that issue, and they will vote for whoever gives them

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Speaker 2: what they want on that issue. So it's not necessarily

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Speaker 2: most people, but it's people who will vote on that

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Speaker 2: issue and that issue alone, and that makes it a

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Speaker 2: really hot button issue. You've asked about the youth vote, Yes,

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Speaker 2: obviously you want to get and the Democrat machine has

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Speaker 2: traditionally been very good at this. Barack Obama's campaign was

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Speaker 2: really really good at this about getting out the youth vote,

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Speaker 2: getting people to donate very small amounts, getting instead of

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Speaker 2: just focusing on a few big donors donating huge amounts

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Speaker 2: of money, focused on millions of people donating just five

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Speaker 2: bucks or ten bucks. That was a strategy that Barack

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Speaker 2: Obama used. And of course getting the youth involved is

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Speaker 2: really important because they're you know, generally more politically active,

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Speaker 2: the younger and more energetic. Getting them out to vote

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Speaker 2: and getting them involved is vital to any Democratic campaign.

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Speaker 2: In fact, Donald Trump's shooter donated to just such a campaign,

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Speaker 2: a Democrat adjacent campaign that was all about getting out

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Speaker 2: the youth vote and he donated fifteen dollars to that

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Speaker 2: as a teenager. And so it's vital to that the

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Speaker 2: youth vote overwhelmingly favors Democrats. So basically, if young people

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Speaker 2: come out to vote, it will probably favor the Democrats,

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Speaker 2: or almost certainly will favor the Democrats more. But again,

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Speaker 2: whether or not Kamala Harris inspires them to do that

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Speaker 2: is another question. One interesting thing is the forgiveness of

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Speaker 2: student debt. So that was another big Biden slash now

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Speaker 2: Harris policy, So that is something hopefully that has endeared

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Speaker 2: them to young people or young college students, who again

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Speaker 2: would be much more inclined to vote for the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: So you know, they will be hoping that. Whether it's enough,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. And that is all we have time

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Speaker 2: for today, another Choc a Bloc episode. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for listening to the real story. If you love

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