1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Waveley Park returns to the possession of the AFL in 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: an eight figure buyout of Hawthorne. The league set to 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: utilize its revitalized asset for pathways and umpires. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: The tagging debate prompted by the handling of Nick Daykos 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: raises edge on how to umpire, the close checking. 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: And Will's long road back. Is the Hawk's young gun 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: on target for a September revival we. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: Talked about is a step into it, embrace all of. 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: It, hit in the room and ret It's unedifying for 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: a senior coach to do that. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: They're on the side of Courtia with the brain, take 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: the man on. They played the best footy. 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: I've ever seen at the start of the season and 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: into President left the couple oder City. 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: Of course they do. It is the stuff that legends 16 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: are made of. What is holding the ball? I don't 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: think I could answer it clearly right now that I 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: could do. 19 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: Something wrong, you know, And I need to get on 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: the board sets. 21 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: The fans love it, and with no fans no through 22 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: sixty year old. 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: The Anti Fund League is at it again. Guys, I 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: hope you've got some folded in your pocket. 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: We've been stung we've been around around the way sort. 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Of stung, feels sort of slapped on the wrists, as 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: if we've got a bit of a detention here. Damien 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: Hardwick has been fine for flipping the purd He's been fined, 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 1: and it's all our fault. 30 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: It's our fault. He's in his domain where we get 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: the we get the privilege of putting a camera in there, 32 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: and now we're going to find. 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: Him didn't go to war in the hot passion of it. 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: We put it to her in the cold light of 35 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: day the next night, naively thinking that it was funny. 36 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: So just to be clear, we never would have allowed 37 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: that to go to air. If we'd realized there was 38 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: the risk that he. 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: Was going to be fined, we might's they've got a steward, 40 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: So I suggest a go fund me page, not from 41 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: the public internal conal Fox. If you're laughing, you can 42 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: contribute as well. 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: Well up for fifty Robbie. 44 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: This is not funny. This is really serious, and it's 45 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: think of the children. Think of the children. 46 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: Therefore you're pointing that finger. 47 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: This is the stupid, petty nonsense that this administration has 48 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: totally lost itself in. It's addicted to fines. It wants 49 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: to sanction pick up the phone that it's not really ideal, 50 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: a bit of tut tutting dragon. You could make amends 51 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: for that at some point down the track. And one 52 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: is to hope that when Greg Swan gets there, that 53 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: is the big change of culture that happens. 54 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: Because Bailey Smith would have benefited, because this. 55 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: Is exactly what happened with Bailey Smith. 56 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: Not no one picked him up and said so. 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: Anyway, I think Damien Hardwick had enough credits in the 58 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: bank to ride this one out. 59 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: They only won three premierships here along the way coach 60 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: Victoria and staged forty two as a player. Not much 61 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 2: he warranted the respect of a phone calls year and anyway, we've. 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: Copped it and one thousand dollars. 63 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: Fine, yep, you'll pay it and we'll move on. 64 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: I hadn't even realized it was a possibility. Wisp said 65 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: it this morning. 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: Get you to no, no, don't get you too delivered 67 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: us for too long. Well I would have loved it 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: had you have But no, all. 69 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Right, this is what we have lined up. Harry Sheesl 70 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: and Will Day our youngsters on Players Night. Tonight's Ray 71 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: Chamber's got double duty. But particularly we want to understand 72 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: the umpire and responsibility and the close tag, the hard 73 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: tag and real overreaction. It's a Navy Blue Flames. 74 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: You will be shocked. 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: Midweek tackle follows us. They'll be tut tutting the two 76 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for the. 77 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: Bird as well. They're in part of the go fund, 78 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: Lauren Glenn and especially till we'll go around. 79 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: That's immediately following us. And then tomorrow night John Longmire 80 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: and Adam Simpson together Simon Goodwin ahead of the game 81 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: against the Suns, and that we'll have the teams for 82 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: put Adelaide and Carton, which be interesting. 83 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: And speaking of interesting, will Horse and Simo contribute in 84 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: this fund? 85 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: We might get them to pass judgment anyway, I don't regularly. 86 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Will God help us give us a Tuesday favorite, something uplifting. 87 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: So this very very good Collingwood football side whore on 88 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: top of the ladd are going to be ten points 89 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: clear after they I suggest they'll beat West Coast I disrespect. 90 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 2: They are going to debut a nineteen year old key 91 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: Ford of one hundred and ninety four cinemas. My check 92 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: thirty two mix Day thirty, Memory thirty one, Cox thirty four. 93 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: So what do they do good footy clubs? They plan 94 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: for the future, and it was announced today down there 95 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: at Victoria Park. Just keep an eye on the young 96 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 2: man because Craig McCrae has is to want these days 97 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: of clubs to be a bit lateral and creative when 98 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: they announce the debut. I'm not sure. Charlie West twigged on, 99 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: have a listen, have a look. I am fearful done 100 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: now that you've done your IDP, so I going to 101 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: do their IDP now to check out what's coming up 102 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: next on the board here. 103 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: What do you what do you actually think happened? 104 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: We'll ever got around it? 105 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably is it, but I didn't see that. Strach writes, 106 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: it's all yours. Thanks for everyone to fight upon my development. 107 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Peter Gray Grant and side Whine Jackson who ran 108 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: the I f L obviously for a long time. I'm 109 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: taking it pick fifty in the draft. He's kicked twenty 110 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: five goals in ten games. He kicked six last week 111 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: against any including the goal after the siren. I watched 112 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: these highlights coming we put up his highlights takes big 113 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: contested Mark's shared and kicks big long fifty goals, So 114 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: it was exciting to see, all right, what do you got? 115 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: You live the pre match addresses of Northy and Barm 116 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: and Danaherb, but outside vicariously we lived through the little 117 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: snipperts that we get. So the Giants have given us 118 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: a couple of snippets here. So first had quite the 119 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: cautionary tail tour, as it turns out, so Adam Kingsley 120 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: in the pre match before they walked out to play 121 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: the Suns. 122 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 4: We're always the hunters, particularly here on our home deck, 123 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: our fortress, so we need to re establish that. 124 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: We've got great trust and connection. 125 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: But trust and connection is around our system, it's around 126 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: our communication and that has to be at its highest 127 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: level today. Well, let's make sure we have it really 128 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 4: high level trust and connection around system. It's not all 129 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 4: going to go our way. They're going to have moments 130 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: of control. We've got to accelerate into those moments. It's okay, 131 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: it's going to happen. They're going to kick a couple 132 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: of goals in a row. 133 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: Full of goals in a row became four and six minutes. 134 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: A souped up opponent. It's okay, it felt a little 135 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: less okay, this. 136 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: Was more barn than northy, to be honest, that three 137 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: games speech. But yeah, then you go out and I'm 138 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: sure people love that stuff. I wonder what happens priades 139 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: and all fire and brimstarting, no, no, very matter of fact, 140 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: and what sort of impact does it have when they 141 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: gave out the first four goals in a heartbeat? 142 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: Yep. 143 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: So all the best laid plans, of course, don't always 144 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: come about. And I reckon Adam Kingsley's watching these goals 145 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: go through, and I said, maybe I should have Maybe 146 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: I should have got up out of the seat at 147 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: some stuff. 148 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: All right, So what do you go to a three 149 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: quarter time twenty two points down. You know you've done 150 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: this before. This is the three quarter time closer. 151 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 5: So we got thirty minutes to peg back four goals. 152 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 5: Thirty minutes to peg back four goals. Most people are 153 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 5: going to say it's built on the back of taking 154 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 5: the game on and playing super offense. 155 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: But it's a bit more than that. 156 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 5: It's about our contest, and it's about our defense. Were 157 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 5: turnovers while we're playing, then look to attack, But it 158 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 5: starts with our midfield, get the ball going. 159 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: Our way and take them off and then go out 160 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: there and kick eight goals in the final. 161 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 2: Term, and they'd be suburban and coach country coaches around 162 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: the country watching that game. It's not much different what 163 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: I did on the weekend, and it's not it's just 164 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: reinforcing what you've been working at since October November, and 165 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: then you're hoping that this one resonates a bit more. 166 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: And this is what happens when you're coaching humans of 167 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: the emotion. It only takes three or four of those 168 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: blogs pre game to be half asleep or not quite 169 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: where they need to be. But they were certainly were 170 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: here at three quarter a time. And this is what 171 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: we've come to respect about this Giants team, that they 172 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: do find a way to get themselves back. 173 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: And they did have to defend for their lives. They 174 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: then take their moments. 175 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's a really good point here, because he did 176 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: say you think it's go, go go, but they gave 177 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: up ott of the hammy inside fifties in that last 178 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: quarter and they held up so fascinating. Good on the 179 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: Giants putting that stuff out. 180 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the agenda. The AFL's decision 181 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: to buy back Wavely Park is just about the ultimate 182 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: full circle moment in footy. This was the venue that 183 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: was purpose built by the league with a mythical future 184 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: capacity of one hundred and fifty thousand. It was to 185 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: be the home of football and the permanent staging of 186 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: the Grand Final. It hosted one and by the time 187 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: it got closed as a matchday venue in nineteen ninety nine, 188 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: there wasn't a whole lot of affection left for Arctic Park, 189 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: but the decision to buy it back has unleashed a 190 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: wave of nostalgia and we shall join in that now. 191 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: Everything from World Series Cricket, the Kiss, but as far 192 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: as it went as a VFL AFL venue, these are 193 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: some of the signature moments. As Peter Hudson he arrives 194 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: in the helicopter that. 195 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: Is as good as it gets one right there they 196 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 2: come back, he just they flew him in. He'd been 197 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: playing footy, den ta has it? And then durmam. These 198 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: are things that come straight to your mind, straight to mine, 199 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: don't they? I know the big one which I'm sure 200 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: it'll be coming up with. Who ELSEO think to run 201 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: straight through the middle of ardor rather than go around it. 202 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: Grainy vision. 203 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: That was a significant night. 204 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: For nineteen eighty seven Night Premiership. 205 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was John Northy getting us up and going. 206 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: And then this was that not so much. A bit 207 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: later on that year in a prelim final where the 208 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 2: Demons six seconds the bore was at full back, been 209 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: kicked in from full back with six seconds ago on 210 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: the clock and in the end Bucky goes back after 211 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Jimmy just he didn't quite understand what was going on 212 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: and the Hawk all of a sudden, the Demons are 213 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: out of the Grand Final. The Hawks are back in next. 214 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Year though, And I found this all in my Hall 215 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: of Fame research. In nineteen eighty eight the preliminary final 216 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: against Carlton, those hearts are still broken. Gary Lyon plays 217 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: a pivotal role despised underdogs the Demons that day. So 218 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: that's a very fine goal. But have a look at 219 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: this for a torpedo and this lived in the imagination 220 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: of Melbourne supporters of a certain age. 221 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: This lives. Look that baby go it didn't quite get it, Jared. 222 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: This this is bias on our behalf. That won't be 223 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: in the great memories. This certainly will will Peter Dacos 224 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: and the draw there and look at this that's not 225 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: supposed to happen from days. So I know the modern 226 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: day player can do anything with the footy, but Peter 227 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: Decos was doing it first. So with the Macedonian there 228 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: it is. That's the number one. That is the number 229 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 2: one memory that comes into your mind. That's the ninety one. 230 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: Look at these, look. 231 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: At Jeff Finn hell is going on me and Baker 232 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: Finch gone, I'm not sure this is super Bowl worthy. 233 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: And then at night archaic behavior is where they burned 234 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: the post. Is this of the post out that man 235 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: I grew up just around the on the ground. 236 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nearly my favorite five minutes of the shoulder day. 237 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: We love Waveley by going out there to Waveley because 238 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: in the days it was you get one trip to 239 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: Sydney to play the Swans. That was like I going 240 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: on the Hold day and this was the next best thing, 241 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: going all the way out to Waverley. Jared and I 242 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: also remember the Sun All Stars. I showed you a picture. 243 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: This is a team that the Herald well the son 244 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: that was at the day would pick their best team 245 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: and then they played the reigning Premiers in the pre 246 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: season at Waverley normally in about thirty eight degree heat. 247 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: So anyway, it's in the hands the AFL. Now they've 248 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 2: got to use it well. 249 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: So the purchase of the ground of facilities is a 250 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: rare and timely solution that will help with our talents, 251 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: pathways programs, Community forty at umpire development programs, all of 252 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: which will now be worked through with the relevant stakeholders. 253 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: How can you see Wavey being utilized? 254 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: I used to the back teeth they've been screaming out 255 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: for grounds. So this has got to be the v 256 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: new for the umpires. And we'll talk to Rain a minute. 257 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: AFL W I think and embrace it out there the 258 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: under eighteens use it. It's beautiful grounds, have magnificent surface. 259 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: Jared thefl however, they can utilize this. Just get out 260 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: there and embrace this big, magnificent footy ground and I 261 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: think it'll be great. 262 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: Ray Chamberlain doing double JUDI tonight, welcome and Ray kiddo, guys, 263 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: how are he? Is this the potential solution for a 264 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: long term home for the umpires. 265 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 6: Well, look, as Gary just said, it's a fantastic surface. 266 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 6: We've been out there to train with Hawthorne on occasion 267 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 6: we all go out, the umpires will go out to 268 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 6: the clubs, and they've got great facilities in there. So 269 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 6: the guts of it is there, above and beyond anything 270 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,359 Speaker 6: that the umpires have historically seen. 271 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: And you know, the devil will be in the detail. 272 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: Obviously there'll be a lot to work through. 273 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 6: I'm sure the AFL will have plans, but it's certainly 274 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 6: a great step in the right direction if that tends 275 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 6: to be or it turns out to be the home 276 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 6: for AFL elead umporing program. 277 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: Preferable to what's in operation at the moment. Yeah, certainly. 278 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 6: I don't think Adell holds a concert out there. So 279 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 6: the boys should be able to get through summer without 280 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 6: being interrupted, and I think that all goes well for 281 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 6: them being able to bed down their program. 282 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: There would be for scial these an infrastructure in place. 283 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 2: I mean, this is not so long ago. This was 284 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: the state of the art facility. Now footing is outgrowing 285 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: it a bit, but from an umpiring point of view, 286 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: it'll be magnificent. 287 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 6: Everything that umpiring would require on any given day will 288 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 6: be able to be accessed. And that that's a fact 289 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 6: that just removes hurdles that don't need to be there. 290 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: Gaming step closer to full time professional umpires. 291 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 6: Step closer to elead umpiring full time. What's full time? 292 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 6: Is it forty hours a week or is it just 293 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 6: your prime? 294 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: If our players a full time they don't do forty hours, 295 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: that's the point. 296 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 6: So just the devil's always in the detail. But yet 297 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 6: lead umpiring is what. 298 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: We're about, and the home for premierships is this has 299 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: been the base for Hawthorn's golden era, so beautifully laid out. Yeah, 300 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: and I'm half surprised that Melbourne didn't ever consider no 301 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: and then there I know Hawthorne feel like they've outgrown it, 302 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: but it is so ready made. 303 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually I went out and spent some time on 304 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: CLAK I was coach and walked through it all. And 305 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: this was quite a long time ago when indoor kicking 306 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: facil these weren't. They're just a standard across the competition. 307 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: But to go out there and see them be able 308 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: to put up big screens and targets and all that 309 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: sort of stuff was groundbreaking at the time. But they 310 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: are now going to be the beneficiary of an unbelievable 311 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: facility at Dingley. So they're at the cutting edge. For 312 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: Melbourne to go out there, it would be a step back, 313 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: I would think to see them go and say, well 314 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: it's not good enough for us. We're going out here 315 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: to this two ground facility. You can have it, Melbourne. 316 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: No for umpires, AFL w under Dings. I think it'd 317 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: be absolutely superb. But it is a great, great facility, 318 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: great venue, and I think they've made a good decision 319 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: in the AFL. 320 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, great full circle moment. All right, Ray, we'll have 321 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: you back in a moment, looking forward to it, all right. 322 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: The furnace the Tuesday feature, all the opinions, all the theories, 323 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: and don't they rage in every direction when it comes 324 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: to one particular club. It's more an inferno than a 325 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: furnace tonight, and it is dedicated to Navy Blue. 326 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: I think a Carton fan right now sitting what's this 327 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: to be saying? What's happened to my proud club? Where's 328 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: the fight? What are you doing? 329 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: If you're Michael Boss panicky? The club is overly emotional. 330 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: Not the people inside. It's overly emotional and it's bordering 331 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: on destructive. 332 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: But where their strength lies, it's in their midfield, but 333 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: their identity is lost currently in there. 334 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: They're down on clearances, They're not being Carlton. 335 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 7: The messaging is not getting through to the players that 336 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 7: there needs to be changed. We've said it, We're all 337 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 7: about the players and coaches. But I think this is 338 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 7: a change that needs to happen, and I think it 339 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 7: needs to happen ASoP. 340 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: I think the big. 341 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 4: Issue right now with this Carlton Football Club is the 342 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: trust off the field and. 343 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: The potential breakdown in relationships between coaching staff. 344 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: And players that is really hard to get back. 345 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: They're at this point in the junction where players can 346 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: splinter and go one way or the other. 347 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: You can lean in or you can lean out. How 348 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: do they go about that? 349 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: My belief right now is that he's starting to happen. 350 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: He's got to be better Charlie than this does and 351 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: get to enough contest. He doesn't want to be the 352 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: man miss McGovern let him up in the last quarter 353 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: that should have been Charlie, light you up. And Tom 354 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: Decunny is going to be the highest played player in 355 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: the game next year. 356 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 6: Like you watch that game on the weekend, said he 357 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 6: could be going to some Kilda on one point seven million. 358 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: He's a mile from that level, righty. I haven't seen 359 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: in the CEO's role, but I think good clubs don't 360 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: get their CEOs too involved in footy. The Carlton are 361 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: about to and they should all the. 362 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 7: Carlton supporters at police. So to say there needs to 363 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 7: be a change and it will probably happen in the 364 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 7: next few weeks is my tip. 365 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: As someone that Carlton said. 366 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: Today, change is coming as sure as winter changes coming 367 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: Thursday night against Port Adelaide, Right, real overreaction from all 368 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: of that gaz This is a giant mess. 369 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: Well I'm going over reaction, which will be a surprise 370 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: given that no one was missed there. This talk about 371 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 2: the player splintering, all that sort of stuff that happens 372 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: at most clubs at some stage during the year, even 373 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: the good clubs, because there's always someone missing out Dart 374 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: so there's always someone that's looking for a sympathetic here 375 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: and it becomes a problem when so gelady put it 376 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: on their gender. I hadn't heard it obviously, but you know, 377 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's happening, but it becomes a problem when 378 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: it gets out of hand and they do need to 379 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: jump on it. If in fact that is the case. 380 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: But it happens everywhere that sort of stuff. I mean, 381 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: there's players a bit your moan about not getting opportunity. 382 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: But when it gets to be two three four because 383 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 2: the week, players who don't look within look outside themselves 384 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: then go looking for a sympathetic ear So they won't 385 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: go to crips and they won't go to Weidering to 386 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: talk it through. They'll go to someone and go I'm 387 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: done by and they go, yeah, you are, and they 388 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: feel that that's when you get a problem. But it'll 389 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 2: be happening everywhere. Jared, so over to you and it's 390 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: all over Graham. 391 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, this is real. This is the whole point 392 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: is if you bring the anointed chief executive in and 393 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: you put him in the building from December and give 394 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: him essentially the research project all the way through to August, 395 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: you expect him to do the investigation, to find the problems, 396 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: to propose answers, and to take them to the board. Now, 397 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: not everything can be rubbers down. It should get to 398 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: the board, be debated, ratified, and then implemented. This is 399 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: their moment in time. They have set up for this 400 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: deliberate change. It's more urgent than it looked like it 401 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: was going to be. It looked like it was going 402 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: to be a nice, smooth handover. But it needs to 403 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: be disruptive, so he will have He's a great footy mind. 404 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: Lay it all out at the right time, take it 405 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: to the board and then get busy. If it's radical, 406 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: do it because this path is not working and you 407 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: can't sit there and say this is about to be 408 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: successful anymore. It might be easier if TDK leaves. 409 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, overaction from mine, I mean, because that's just bringing 410 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: it all back to one man. That's just saying the 411 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: problem is this that one of our best players wants 412 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: to go and he's been poached. You deal with it, 413 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: You deal with whatever comes. You make your pitch, you 414 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: give your best offer. He's a wanted player, you sell 415 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: the club really hard, and then if he goes, you 416 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: deal with it. Either way. You just have to deal 417 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: with it. I mean, club players and Tom Dekaanning have 418 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: left clubs and the clubs have survived and prospered. That's 419 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: the message in all this. But he's also talented enough 420 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: to keep him and if he stays can be a 421 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: good result for the cart and footy club. Number four 422 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: is me to you. Charlie's name could be on the 423 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: trade table. 424 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: So this should be real, but not as a sensational 425 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: grab or not as an active retribution is I think 426 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: everything should be on the table. They have a lopsided 427 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: salary cap and that's going to require rectification. If they 428 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: march on with their collection of million dollar players and 429 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: what's left at the bottom, that's not going to balance anything. 430 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: So they have to work out who has currency. And 431 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: this is not for the we're all super coaches on 432 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: the outside. We trade everyone who has currency? What could 433 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: you get for it? How will it help balance things? 434 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't play favorites. I would study each player, 435 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: study the market on each player, and then work out 436 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: which is the right move. I think Charlie would be 437 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: number one on my list, but he wouldn't be off 438 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: my list. And I think you'd have the conversation with 439 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: probably every player bar Weedering, who just signed your whatever 440 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: it was, the seven year deal. Could Simo and Horse 441 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: do better? 442 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: There is an over to the board. So I've sat 443 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: on the coaching panel and got it wrong, Jared. So 444 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: these are things that are hard to the track. Records 445 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: are such that suggest that yes, they could do better, 446 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: but then you've got to go to the heart of everyone. 447 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: Can ask them tomorrow night. I'm sure they're going to 448 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: be ready for it is to whether or not their 449 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: heart and souls in it. And has John Romo got 450 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: a burning, deep down ambition to get back in and 451 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: turn for instance, this club around, or has Adam Simpson 452 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: had enough time outside to sit back and go throw 453 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: me back into this thankless task of ninety hours a 454 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,239 Speaker 2: week where you don't sleep at night. And so if 455 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: they can tickle that box, then they probably could. But 456 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: my suggestion is there some way from that having worked 457 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: from them, But it could change quickly. Buddy might be 458 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: the new hot take care. 459 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: Oh this is the real reels? Do you think, buddy, 460 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: realise what this was going to look like. But this 461 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: is the joy of podcasting is once it gets taken 462 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: out of your environment. With Shane Crawford and quite rightly 463 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: plastered all over the back page, that is a sensational 464 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: thing for Lands Franklin to say that Voss will be 465 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: gone in a couple of weeks and should be. 466 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: It's the master at work, mate. Shane Crawford's got this 467 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: weirdly ability to just extract something out of the subtle, 468 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: half dumb questioning that is a bit smart. So I 469 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: put it down to the master interviewer. I blame him. 470 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: Arawford, hot take, buddy, Right, our youngsters are about to 471 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: join us here at the desk, Harry Cheesel. It's time 472 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: for North to get their plaudits and Will Day. What 473 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: is the path towards finals looking like it