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Speaker 1: What's the matter, daddy, You're not yourself at the moment,

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Speaker 1: you know, like you know, I'm just a little bit tear.

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Speaker 2: I could really pick my mood up. What did you

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Speaker 2: want to know?

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Speaker 3: I'll do anything.

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Speaker 2: Do you really want to know? Yes, I want people

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Speaker 2: to hit subscribe, Hit that subscribe button. It's going to

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Speaker 2: really elevate my spirit. If the people respect.

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Speaker 3: You as a man and as a as a medium

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Speaker 3: mogul in Australia.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they will do it well. I hope so well.

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Speaker 2: I noticed that Cooper said, don't block your beautiful face because,

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Speaker 2: as you know, Kurt Goodley here, Kurt, I brought you

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Speaker 2: down here for the DNA test mate nervous a couple

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Speaker 2: of days from me, and we.

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Speaker 1: Actually do have a swab test that Jack has brought

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Speaker 1: in that we're going to get your name.

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Speaker 4: Funny you say that, boys, I've actually brought something in myself.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a condom again, that's a bag.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so good wife Brook this morning, who's a nurse.

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Speaker 4: I said, listen, I might bring one of the specimen cups. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and she said that's not gonna work. That you're only

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Speaker 4: going to test for committee or drugs. Don't test.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just give a little, give it a little sober. You

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Speaker 1: can go mouth or nose or if you're a doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter again, and then we're Jack's gonna fire this off

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Speaker 1: and then at the end of the potty you're going

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Speaker 1: to have the results for us.

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Speaker 2: Jack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect, perfect, that's going to be good. You know,

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Speaker 1: give the hair follicles as well.

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Speaker 4: We may put all in. I mean a lot of

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Speaker 4: people pull me up on the street around this this story.

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Speaker 4: Do that. Yeah, yeah, I mean since you went live

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Speaker 4: on air with with that phone called the Very Honest

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Speaker 4: Phone call Mate that you had to make, it's a

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Speaker 4: tough do you give a lot with your friend alleged dad?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well let's yeah, that's those people that haven't seen it.

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Speaker 1: Did a prank call on Matthew about probably four or

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Speaker 1: five years ago, pretending because I was getting a lot

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Speaker 1: of people mess like commenting on my photos and Instagram

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Speaker 1: and that being like you look like a giggling So

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is starting to catch legs.

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Speaker 1: I'll run with this, and then prank Dad saying that

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Speaker 1: it was starting to get to me, and then I

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Speaker 3: To believe it.

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Speaker 2: Law of retraction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mate, And then ever since we did the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was manifesting ever since that, mate, Even when I'd

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Speaker 1: people sledging me, just going you're a Kiddley, You're a Kidley.

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Speaker 4: Similar playing skills in like engine endurance too, didn't.

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Speaker 1: We well yeah, yeah we were and this and you know,

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Speaker 1: pick me up if you think I'm wrong here, Matthew.

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Speaker 1: But we were all us Kiddley's. We're all hard, We're

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Speaker 3: Out there passing the footy flick pass and all that ship.

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Speaker 4: But we've all rolled the sleeves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we worked hard. We grinded for everything that we got.

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Speaker 2: Bread and butter footballers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we really were.

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Speaker 2: To Joey, who's just butter and beer? I love that

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Speaker 2: by the way you turn a phrase. It was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: You know. The rumors that were starting to catch legs.

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Speaker 3: Did I did I put them together?

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Speaker 2: Did I mixed metaphor? Brother? Well?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes yeah, my head what a metaphor is?

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Speaker 2: Later on, I've got a stye spend more money on

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Speaker 3: Think I'm starting to get run down. I've got a

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Speaker 3: what do they call like a start? Is its?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You get rid of them to do the gold. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't don't do that's brass. So one, that's your wedding ring.

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Speaker 2: I did brass to get off on the other nightclubs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look it was. It was great to cross parts

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Speaker 2: So just a singular tear just went down to cheek.

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Speaker 2: That's just good. You blokes had a night out because Cooper's.

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Speaker 4: Not not well. We're not big one. Recently we went

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Speaker 4: A month ago. The crow boys yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: About going to the game. And now I was going

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Speaker 3: I think that was the day they played the Sharks too.

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Speaker 4: Im in a national mining role for company called Protech Group,

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Speaker 3: What did you do initially? Did you straight into that

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Speaker 4: I went into a business development role at the Knights.

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Speaker 4: For the first four months, I was always thinking about

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Speaker 1: Now and you because your brother, he's your brother, Matt

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Speaker 2: He's actually officially now Ronaldonald's all looks it looks like

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Speaker 4: The weekend with Ryan Daggy, but now he worked really

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Speaker 4: hard to get into that. Matt was in that CEO

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Speaker 4: So but then between Matt and sort of chief who

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Speaker 2: I remember doing walking with you, your brother, just after

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Speaker 2: as you said, he was CEO an incredibly difficult time

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Speaker 4: I was captain too at that stage, so I had

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Speaker 4: my brother a CEO. I was captain and it was

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Speaker 2: We'll come back to that era shortly. We're just on

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Speaker 2: to say, I don't want to lose what you know,

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Speaker 2: the stories around your brother Matt and him finishing and

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Speaker 2: you know, after after the Knights, then going to McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: But the McDonald seem to give people an idea the

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Speaker 2: McDonald's franchise or have been a franchise isn't just about

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Speaker 2: rolling up one day and you got to work there

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Speaker 2: twelve months for nothing.

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Speaker 4: Yep, for sure. So when he finished his See the Knights,

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Speaker 4: he went into twelve months of unpaid training. Basically, you go,

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Speaker 4: and you get to the interview phase whether you're capable

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Speaker 1: So the one that you work in that's regional, right

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Speaker 1: they put you. That's not the one that you own.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, So they just put you in a

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Speaker 4: in the home game. But he's doing drive through orders

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Speaker 4: and people are thinking, must not give this muster Toney's asking.

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Speaker 4: So he's working in his hometown and serving happy meals

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Speaker 4: at the drive through. But that was just part of

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Speaker 4: the process. And I guess they do that to make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing happened to Ronie Kirk, the great Wrong

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Speaker 2: Kurt of the Immortal. He had numerous and he tells

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Speaker 2: the story. One day that they're about to open in

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Speaker 2: oh wow, hey, listen, you know said we mate this.

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Speaker 2: This is like ron Kurk is here our mind played

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Speaker 2: He was one of the greatest players of all time

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Speaker 4: Through that whole process, he reckons the legend helped him out.

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Speaker 4: Matt's got two in Griffith and one and leating down

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Speaker 1: They reckon some of those country ones like produce some

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Speaker 4: Ones that are twenty four to seven and you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they keep the best ones themselves.

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Speaker 4: Like he works hard, Like him and his wife Larissa

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Speaker 2: Now that's that's that's an incredible achievement. It says a

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well that's that's what I found out of you,

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Speaker 2: Was about the kids doing sports. It was just a

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Speaker 3: Were you hoping for a boy?

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Speaker 3: Was that why you had three?

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Speaker 4: Three girls?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: I made I wasn't going for four, I tell you that.

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Speaker 3: You're a butcher by trains.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah, no, I loved it. You know, I

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Speaker 4: My life worked on a Bobby lines the local butcher's

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Speaker 4: and it was Michael Hagen said, Kurt Haigs, may take

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, it doesn't matter what you do when

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Speaker 3: Isn't that the first sign of like a serial killer?

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Speaker 2: Probably the fifth signe If you got the joint of

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Speaker 2: stabbing and skinny, I think you're well on your well.

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Speaker 3: Rocky was a Rocky was a butcher right, although they

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Speaker 3: just let him rock down.

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Speaker 2: Poully was the butcher butcher. He was the brother in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, was there any any ever of that when Rocky

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Speaker 4: We had we had the free Show film in there

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Speaker 3: Oh really.

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Speaker 4: We had one of the boats from HA had Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't that Russell?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: He came in and done a segment. It was actually

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Speaker 4: pretty funny about the past Passo there and russ Or.

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Speaker 3: Was it like a like a segment on you working

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I was working there, and then there was obviously

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Speaker 4: Peter Shields there and it was just a joy up.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's my godfather, Peter Shills.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen him in fifteen years, he says. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think his daughter saff Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Netball, she's a gun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Basketball playing the Cold System in America.

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Speaker 4: Yep. I think they're going over there pretty soon. Actually

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Speaker 4: with Shieldsy last week, do not gonna have a little

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Speaker 4: Have you been at that?

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Speaker 1: I haven't been sending the wrong way? When the birthday's

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Speaker 4: See direct deposit now straight in your bank accounting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, might be able to be again made.

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Speaker 2: He just deals with the lad athletes.

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Speaker 3: On the footy show as well.

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Speaker 1: Because you were up part of one of the great

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Speaker 3: I was like, that was that was Kurt? Where that?

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Speaker 3: How did that come about?

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Speaker 4: That? I reckon more people pulled me up about that

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Speaker 4: Matt Matt was going to be there mom and dad

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Speaker 4: mate It's like, you know, we've got cameras set up

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Speaker 4: the road. Here, we're going to do up Mario. Instead

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Speaker 3: You only found out on the day.

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Speaker 4: I've only just met Mario like the first time, and

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Speaker 4: I've just found out we've done the whole family story.

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Speaker 4: None of this family story got used at all because

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Speaker 4: the joy up was so good and I'm not an

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Speaker 4: it ended up I had a hat on. I just

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Speaker 1: You did a good job, because it looks like, of course,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, go and find it, you

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Speaker 1: fake it. You're playing front yard footy and you fake

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Speaker 1: an ankle injury, and then Mario You've got to play

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Speaker 1: in three days and Mario is freaking out with Marry.

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Speaker 2: Go what what it's frightening me on something?

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Speaker 4: You get the other part they had he Hayes teed

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Speaker 4: up at the stadium as well, so you were down

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Speaker 4: the road hages at the stadium. I'm like, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: I didn't hurt you. I said, it's been bad inkle,

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Speaker 4: I didn't even have a bad inkle. Let's have a

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Speaker 4: look at it. I said, what are you a doctor now, Murray? No,

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Speaker 4: I'm not said, what are you a doctor? He goes,

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Speaker 4: And he goes, no, mate, I'm not a doctor.

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Speaker 2: And he's back to the producer.

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Speaker 3: I love when he go out. He go over to

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Speaker 3: and he was gone. The family hate me.

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Speaker 2: He's such a beautiful bloke.

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Speaker 4: The penny should have dropped. You turned up out of nowhere.

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Speaker 4: You had nothing to do with the whole secret. Mario

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Speaker 4: is gone, brother, brother, it's all right. I think I've

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Speaker 4: seen I know ankles. I know ankles right. Let me

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Speaker 4: just have a look at it. And I go, actually,

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Speaker 4: it's not too bad now.

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Speaker 3: Mario is Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: He's a perfect bloke because he's like, if you know

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Speaker 2: what happened. It's Maria. It's social beautiful blow.

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00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,120
Speaker 4: He was sweating. Ever since I've seen him sporadically over

441
00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 4: the years, he'd always come up, brother, Brother, you got

442
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 4: me brother.

443
00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 1: It is fun of the I reckon, it's one of

444
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 1: the greatest cats in rugby league going to stitch up.

445
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 3: I reckon, it's it's up there with one of the best.

446
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:23,919
Speaker 3: It's so funny.

447
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,360
Speaker 2: What do you remember, Kirk, Because I remember being I

448
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,159
Speaker 2: was in the north of England and there were a

449
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 2: lot of injuries, and Joey run me and said, man,

450
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 2: we're we're going to put curt him. Were you seventeen or.

451
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 4: Just I was eighteen? Ye? Yeah, so and I was

452
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 4: small man. He like I was only like, you know, eighteen,

453
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 4: I was probably looking sixteen dead'sair and I wasn't way

454
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,360
Speaker 4: much than my I was a late developer as far

455
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:52,199
Speaker 4: as like size, weight, strength, speed, you know, even skills.

456
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 4: I would say so, but I had to for me

457
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 4: to try and get into the Nights, which I missed

458
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 4: it out. The first couple of times I had to

459
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 4: highlight something as a porny difference, and I had to

460
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 4: highlight my fitness. So only time I had an opportunity,

461
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 4: whether it was boot tests or fitness drills or durance exercises,

462
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 4: I wanted to win them number one, and I want

463
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 4: to highlight that I was the most fittest in that group,

464
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 4: and that's how I finally got in the nights.

465
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 1: That sort of can I quickly jump in because there's

466
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 1: been on that. There was a rumor when I was

467
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: at school and you it would probably come back to

468
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: you when we would do the beat test. You might

469
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 1: not know this, dad, but everyone would always say, all

470
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 1: the league fans, they would say, oh, Kurt Kidley is

471
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 1: the only bloke that's broken the beat test. That's that's finished.

472
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 1: It is there because that was a rumor at ages

473
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 1: for my school, everyone got Kurtkidley, is that fit like

474
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 1: leading the origin?

475
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 3: Particularly he broke the beaf test.

476
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 2: Your dad, is there.

477
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 3: Any truth to that?

478
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 4: No, I haven't broken the boot test. It was it

479
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 4: was I used to always beat my prevy score. I

480
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 4: know Mason and just a horror spoke around that recently. Yeah,

481
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 4: but I haven't. No, I haven't beaten the boot test,

482
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 4: but I used to get consistently sort of eighteens high eighteens.

483
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 4: And again that was that was a personal goal that

484
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 4: I always try and beat my previous one. And I

485
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 4: remember when I first came into sort of gray playing

486
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 4: reserve grade oh one and then debut, But Robbio was

487
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 4: known as the fittish guy in the club and Robbo

488
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 4: was super fit, and I loved Robbio and looked up

489
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 4: to him when I was sort of coming through that

490
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 4: fullback role and Robbio was the fittish guy, so I

491
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 4: thought it'd.

492
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: Be fine with you're beating him. It does an undergrudge, rob.

493
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would hate. He would have hated.

494
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: Was there a bit of like when a young bloke

495
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 1: comes in and they're winning all the fitness. You know,

496
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: it's different if it's an older bloke Dangans or whatever,

497
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: but you're kind of making the older blokes look bad.

498
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 3: Did the boys get off here at the start?

499
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I don't know think robot was a big

500
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 4: fan of someone coming in beating him at that stage,

501
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 4: but look he did. Robbio helped me a lot out

502
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 4: with just fullback, working catching techniques and we're to be defensively,

503
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 4: so we had a pretty good relationship and he was good.

504
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 4: He was good fun off the field, Robbio, So I

505
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 4: don't know if he was a big.

506
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: Fan of It's funny how times times changed, because I

507
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 2: remember playing under twenty ones and we had a young

508
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 2: reserve oat side what not, and you'd start to train.

509
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: We'd trained as a club, and so the writer all

510
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 2: the all the halves, playmakers, halves and hookers over there,

511
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: and you're training as a group, not just with your

512
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 2: and make the old blokes with grabia and say you

513
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 2: fucking listen here, don't don't you fucking break the bag.

514
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: You just stay there, they warn you.

515
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was like there was definitely that mattery,

516
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 4: like you had to stay as a group. Like. Those

517
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 4: club days were some of my best memories, especially because

518
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 4: they have Saturday mornings Jersey Fleeg reserve grade, first grade,

519
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 4: and they'd mix the teams up, you know, with variety,

520
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: so it might be blue team, Red team, Green team,

521
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 4: Martrich team. So it was the first taste of training

522
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 4: with guys who were reserved grade in first grade and

523
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 4: getting a taste of the intensity, the you know, the

524
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 4: aggression in those competitive games where it was just short

525
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 4: side games. So that was that really inspired me to be.

526
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: It was dad in those clubs, like did you ever

527
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: train with Dad and those I remember.

528
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 4: Training with these boys that just you and Andrew at

529
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 4: Ford Over when you were you guys living across the road,

530
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 4: there was that did. Yeah.

531
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 2: We used to go to different parks around the place.

532
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was some of the I'm very grateful for.

533
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 4: You know, when you guys are trained on days off

534
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 4: or off season, you just be at a local park,

535
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 4: whether it's Ford Oval or Joey Townsend Oval, just with

536
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 4: stack a footy, stuck a cane, set out and looking

537
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 4: to improve your own game. And once I've seen that

538
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 4: number one, and I was a good observer of people

539
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 4: and what they were doing, and I thought, all these

540
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 4: guys are already already high performers in first grade and

541
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 4: red players. This is what they're doing. That's what I

542
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 4: want to be doing too.

543
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: These doing just do an extra hardier work, that's it.

544
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: And we used to get different fields around new Castle,

545
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: ones that would feels that would give you the same

546
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: feeling dimension as the field you're going to play on

547
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: that weekend. So for instance, give an example, if you're

548
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 2: up at Newcastle and and you're driving along beyond Hexham

549
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: Road and you've got on the right hand side of

550
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 2: the Newcastle Entertainment Center. There's a field across the road

551
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 2: from that. We used to train on that when we're

552
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: going to play party football stadium because it used to

553
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: aun the one down the road because all the big

554
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: sycamore trees would hover over the top and it felt

555
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: like a stadium. Yeah, so little things like you do.

556
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: Little things like that. Have four or five training fields

557
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: that would be similar.

558
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 1: That's interesting that you do that like they do it

559
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: now obviously in the modern game now because they've got

560
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 1: more technology. Like at a crowd where I remember when

561
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: I was at Melbourne, they could train in at Amy

562
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: when you were going to play in a big game

563
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: and they'd fire up the speakers and put crowd noise

564
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: in so loud that you'd have to be communicate really

565
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: well with the boys to practice how loud you'd have

566
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: to yell for them to hear you, or they put

567
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: if you're going to play and wet weather, they'd put

568
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: the sprinklers on all afternoon.

569
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 3: To practice that. But it's pretty innovative for an old

570
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 3: fool like you.

571
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: Mate. Maybe we talk about we had Brian smith here

572
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 4: at from about seven for a few years. Smithy brought

573
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 4: some real professionals to the club at that stage that

574
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 4: we needed and it was through our pathways. But he

575
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 4: was always trying to think outside the back as you are.

576
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 4: We were training game day, game day on away games.

577
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: There was one game I was in Origin camp watching

578
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: the boys. I remember they played in Brisbane, got b

579
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 4: by seventy. They went from the hotel game day, went

580
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 4: and found a local park, got stuck in traffic. We're

581
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: getting this is game day, preparing for the day, strapping

582
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: on the bath to get back to the hotel quickly

583
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: straight the game by seventy.

584
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: That that's a nightmare. You know who else you know

585
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: who did that quite until recently. Rugby league fans will

586
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: know this. The Ipswich Jets who play up in the

587
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: Queensland Cup. They're pretty famous for like they take they

588
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: just take risks on everything. They only kicked short off kickoffs.

589
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: They chip and chase every play like they offload, like

590
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: they just do the craziest Stuffer brothers. Yeah, they're like

591
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: the Harlem Globe Trotters of rugby league. And you'd see

592
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: them there like they would do their captain drun like

593
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: an hour before kickoff or like two hours on the

594
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 1: morning of the game, so they'd be doing that, they

595
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: do a light warm up, but then like the morning

596
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: of the game, we'd be walking down and have a

597
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: coffee and you'd see the team you're about to play

598
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: just warming up and they're like they're training on game day.

599
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: It was just them like flick passing and chip and chasing.

600
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: They were so hard to play against.

601
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: That on Smith is and you're right, and I will

602
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: say this, Smithy gets judged unfairly, I think on the

603
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: length and breadth of his coaching career, the fact he

604
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: hasn't won a competition, but he did with certain clubs,

605
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: like you know he took he took some George to

606
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: the ninety to ninety three Grand Final with a side

607
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: that was a long way off the strength of the

608
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: Prison Broncos, and like that was in his innovation. Jason

609
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 2: Stevens tells me a story. It might have been nine

610
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: ninety four and they've gone to Brookvale Oval and they've

611
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: they've gotta beat Manly mainly playing really good at the time,

612
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: but they're confident. Anyway, Smithy brings in a bloke just

613
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: before the game to give a bit of a motivational

614
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: talk to the players, literally about that we were about

615
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: to go out and now this guy end up getting

616
00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: done for corruption. Yeah, yeah, he's a con man. Anyway,

617
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: as they're about to go out, the guy pulls the

618
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 2: stereo system out, just goes book, put the set in

619
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: and starts playing bon Jovi. He living on a prayer.

620
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: So as they're walking out Smithy Studio, they said there

621
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: was a great feeling in the sheds Smithy grabs s

622
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: Gaz some really special is going to happen today. They

623
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: got beat sixty to four. Sometimes you just don't know

624
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: that sod on that debut when you play, what do

625
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: you remember from it? Probably the intensity of the game

626
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: mad He, you know, much more physical, like Reserve grade

627
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: was a good taste because I was playing against men

628
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: for the first time. That was genuine reserve grade where

629
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: I was playing guys who had either been dropped back

630
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: from first grade or returning from injury.

631
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 4: So Reserve Grade No. One was an awesome year and

632
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 4: I was playing with some first credits. But that night

633
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 4: I remember Half's partner debut James Winn winning and I

634
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: got promoted to first grade. Joey definitely can get droped.

635
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: He was out injured.

636
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: I think that he had a bad injury for quite

637
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: a while. Yep.

638
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: So Winnie and I debut that night. We got we

639
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 4: got dusted. Unfortunately, I threw an intercept and straight back

640
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: to reserve grade.

641
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: Lead. You hit the mark.

642
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: Were you playing with your brother?

643
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 4: But yeah, and I was playing with Matt. There was

644
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 4: Husey Beds like guys like b K Paso. So I

645
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 4: was very lucky and grateful to come through like that

646
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 4: ear of early two thousands because there was it was

647
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 4: a great team. Most of those guys were local juniors too,

648
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 4: a couple of couple of recruits like b K from

649
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 4: the outside Passo. But yeah, it was a it was

650
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: a great era as far as old still old school,

651
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 4: but but you know, learned lots.

652
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: It's really funny you see your handover from semi professionalism

653
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: to professionals. So you were probably sitting at that bridge

654
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: for sure. When did you play your second first grade game?

655
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: If you got dropped there?

656
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: Yep, So I went back to reserve grade and obviously

657
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 4: first grade two thousand and one Grand Final one we

658
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 4: got beat the week before the Grand Final and Reggies

659
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: and then following year and up playing about twenty first

660
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: grade games and then from three I was full time

661
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: first grade.

662
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: What position we were playing in that most of most

663
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: of those games the next.

664
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: Year, probably between full back and five eight, probably five

665
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 4: to eight more. Robbie will still would have been there.

666
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: Ruddy was either playing five eight or pushing into locks.

667
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: So I got my first opportunities, probably in the halves.

668
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: And I just used to follow your brother around because

669
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: I knew things were going to happen, and Joey was

670
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 4: a great communicator. Obviously you could see things unfolding, so

671
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 4: I thought, beautiful, man, I'll just follow this bloke around

672
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 4: and there's down to be things that happened around me.

673
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 4: And even when I went to fullback, I loved fullback.

674
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: I loved the variety of fullback and the versatility of

675
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: being left right through the middle, set plays, jumping into

676
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 4: dummy half and having a run, kick returns, catch and

677
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: bombs the same thing. During that those next a few

678
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: years of from three to seven. When Joey retired, that

679
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: fullback role I thoroughly enjoyed because it was it required

680
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 4: a high level of endurance and fitness.

681
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: I was going to ask about it because on the surface,

682
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: you look at the six position and you've got defensive

683
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: responsibilities and you're getting hit quite a bit. But particularly

684
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: I look at the modern game, and I'm interested in

685
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: your take. I think in the modern game, fullback is

686
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: the toughest position to play. I think for a couple

687
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: of reason's number one, you get isolated. No one is

688
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: subjected to more pressure plays than the fullback. All goes

689
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: up in the air. You're expected to catch it. When

690
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: you catch it, you don't get and applauded. You drop it,

691
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: you're on the back page of the paper. Yeah, but

692
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: also the impact. You know, you're at the mercy of

693
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: a kick chase team and things like that. How did

694
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: you find fullback? Did you find that demanding?

695
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah? And I love the pressure. You know, I accepted

696
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 4: the pressure, but I practiced for it too. I've got

697
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: lots of reps in around catching bombs, and that was

698
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: a great responsibility. I always want to try and catch

699
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: the kickoff or to work out which way they kick

700
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: it off, and I'd like that responsibility catching kickoffs. And

701
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: I had really good relationships with my full pack in

702
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: front rowers. Just hold them accountable and you know, I'll

703
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 4: help you, you help me type type relationship. So yeah,

704
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: fullback was great. I'd always sort of get end up

705
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: being pushed into five eight or in the halves if

706
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: there was someone out injured. So I had lots of

707
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: taste of five eight and full back, fullback being m

708
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: I probably preferred, and even the back in my career,

709
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: even at Warrington, I was probably playing more five eight

710
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 4: than full back, just just to look after my legs

711
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: a bit better. And I loved the responsibility of defending

712
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 4: three men. You know, you've got to have a really

713
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: good relationship with your back rower and your center and

714
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: your winger, and you've got to be confident and believe

715
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 4: in your defensive pattern and make a call, especially on

716
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 4: your line. Yeah, and I kind of thrived on that

717
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 4: type of responsibility that.

718
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: The three and of people don't realize. You know he is,

719
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: He's the chief of the defense on that edge out wide,

720
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: you know you're talking about it going outside in or

721
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: making a call to slide.

722
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 4: It's a big responsibility and you've got to back yourself

723
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: and you've got to have the boys on board. And

724
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: I think, you know, fitness was my best attribute. I

725
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 4: would say communication was probably my second biggest asset. Get

726
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: it during fatigue, you know, that's the most important part

727
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: in attack and defense, but certainly defensive. You've got to

728
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 4: you've got to talk, and you've got to have your

729
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: back ron on board. You've got to have your center

730
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 4: on board. If we're all wedging, we're going we're all

731
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 4: going hard, and we'll leave our leave ourselves open for except.

732
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: The first thing to go when you're fatigue, like the

733
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: communication goes. Yeah, that's the difference between junior levels and

734
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: first grade and sometimes even reserve grade.

735
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: Just bloke's been able to communicate on fatigued.

736
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: I reckon. It's the difference between a long term career

737
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: and a shorter one because you can have natural ability

738
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: and natural talent, but you've got to be able to

739
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: you've got to want to communicate, and you've got to

740
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 4: get a response from If I'm talking to you, I

741
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 4: need a response from from you back. And I think

742
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 4: you'll see players have like phenomenal careers that may not

743
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 4: be the most talented or gifted in their in their team,

744
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: but they're probably the most value because of their work ethic.

745
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: They're tough, they're resilient, and they're consistently talk throughout the

746
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 4: game and throughout the week team meetings, during training sessions

747
00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: and in the game.

748
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: Under isn't it under an underrated skill because we always

749
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: put the emphasis on speed with the epist on strength,

750
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 2: emphas on endurance, you know, and the smart but the

751
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: ability to communicate is so important. And I say, young

752
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: playmakers sometimes the day before the game, I want you

753
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: to walk down the park. I want you to walk

754
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: through your plate, but I want to I want to

755
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: hear you should be hearing yourself talk openly and clearly,

756
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: like when you're under pressure. Because it's like this, if

757
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: you're going to get up into a thirty minute speech

758
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: or let's say it's only a minute game, eighty minute

759
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 2: speech to you know, a thousand people, you know, and

760
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: just in business, would you practice that the day before

761
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: of course it would. Well you think about rugby league.

762
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: You should be down there. You should be finding your voice.

763
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: And if you are not a good communicator, go and

764
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: learn how to communicate.

765
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 4: I'd be catching bombs just with no one else in

766
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: the park but the half back or a coach, and

767
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 4: I'll be calling my name, catching the bombs with no

768
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: one else around because I wanted to practice communicating to myself.

769
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what that It gives you belief

770
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: in catching the footy. So if I'm talking to myself

771
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 4: my mind, I like, I believe in the catch. And

772
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 4: if there's no communication number one, whether the wingers catching it,

773
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: I'm catching it the other winger, that's uncertainty. But just

774
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 4: by talking to myself, it sends a message to myself,

775
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 4: the teammates and the opposition that I've got these.

776
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: One of the butt.

777
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: I remember Dad and Joey one of the best sort

778
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: of lessons when Jack and I were young, when they

779
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: go down the park and throw cones out and you'd.

780
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: Practice as.

781
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 5: It's smoke cones as yeah, crack well when Joey was there, yeah,

782
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 5: but throwing cones out and practicing like you know, if

783
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 5: you're going to if you're trying to communicate to your

784
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 5: full back, you know, to sit on or to punch

785
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 5: a hole outside that player even.

786
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: Though he's not here, just almost you're actually practicing how

787
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: you word your sentence to communicate it to him. You know,

788
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: like I'm getting to him, punch outside him, hit the

789
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: whole outside him.

790
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: So they in the heat of the moment.

791
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: It's not just that you're saying it, but it's like

792
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: the directness and the clear communication of what you're saying,

793
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: so he knows exactly what you're going to do for sure.

794
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: I reckon communication in those moments super important, even just

795
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: around scrums and breakdowns of plays, like just trying to

796
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: mess with the other team's heads psychologically around you know,

797
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: we're feeling up, we're feeling feet, We've got these boys,

798
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 4: and just little moments like that where you can over

799
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 4: communicate confidently. I just could send a message to the other.

800
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: Charles dahl And used to say the time what separated

801
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: man from chymps our ability to communicate exactly exactly.

802
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: Charles Darwin even played the game first grade his life.

803
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: Kids, so go and dhen played Union.

804
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: Of course, no relation back to Joe for a sec because,

805
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: like you said, you're a young player coming in playing

806
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: five eight and full back with probably one of the

807
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: greatest players of all time, someone that you probably were

808
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: watching and idolizing. And he's also known for being quite testy,

809
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: quite quite demanding on his players. Were there any yarns

810
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: or did he give you a fair spray? Back in

811
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: the day when you were young.

812
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 4: Everyone got a spray? Busy was getting fully thrown back

813
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 4: at him. You know, if they're burning on the mark.

814
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: So we had a really high expectation on himself for sure,

815
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: but everyone else. And he used to get frustrated, probably

816
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 4: because he could see things unfolding before everyone else, which

817
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 4: was part of that frustration. Yeah, if you weren't on

818
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 4: the mark, and you weren't hitting the hole that he

819
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: was after or put the balls where they needed to do,

820
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: then he'd give you a fair spray.

821
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: So I think you could blast.

822
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 4: I think yeah. I think Justin Roddyck got told to

823
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 4: actually get get off the field at one stage because

824
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 4: couldn't catch a bomb at that stage.

825
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: How is the night Rider going?

826
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 4: I don't know, probably haven't seen him since he'd done

827
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: the logis with the HEG you're on that's right? What?

828
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: So do you know how sometimes in the game a

829
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: young player would just come into first grade and just mate,

830
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: we'll just catch fire. But that flame will burn it

831
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: very quickly. Yes, Justin Wright come in to first grade

832
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: and like it's unlikely a lot of injuries, and he

833
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: was the people's champion because he was only really short,

834
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: wasn't particularly fast, but mate just started caught fire for

835
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: about a month and then but he used to wear

836
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: his head gear. They used to call him the night Rider.

837
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: So then he become this celebrity.

838
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 4: Footy shows to send him the log he's with a

839
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 4: head year on interview actors, Did.

840
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: They have any idea who was that?

841
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 2: No? I remember Carry O'Brien is certain. He's a really

842
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: he's an ABC journals. Really prickly he's doing. He's having

843
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: a piss. A night rider walks and ask him for

844
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: a question. He goes, fuck off, you idiot.

845
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: I love how back in the day, like the Footy Show,

846
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: it seems like the Footay Show had not so much control,

847
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: but like everyone was so up for doing whatever, Like

848
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: the players were just like you see now a lot

849
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: of players kind of try to hide away from the media,

850
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: probably because they don't want to get.

851
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: Bagged by a lot of people online.

852
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: But back then, probably because there's no social media for

853
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: anyone to comment on.

854
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: You should just be doing anything.

855
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 4: There was some pretty loose stuff.

856
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: Pull a microphone out, people come running towards you, like Americans. Yeah.

857
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, like back in the day, when you do Red

858
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: Dagon Street talks, it's like people would like you would

859
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: you would bring the strangest creatures from all over Australia.

860
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: They come out and want to get.

861
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: In front of it.

862
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: They come out of shops, they come out of churches,

863
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: they come out of crack ends, They just come pouring

864
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: out it. Well, would I tell you terrific bloke. That's

865
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: the end of part one, right that, time to jump

866
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: over for part two, which I hope you enjoy every

867
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: bit as much I know you will