WEBVTT - Inside the secret world of an American militia

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<v Speaker 1>I covered January sixth as an investigative reporter. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people remember the images of violence against police officers

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<v Speaker 1>outside the Capitol and people, you know, rummaging through desks,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's easy to forget how much worse it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been. You know, this mob got within one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>feet of Vice President Mike Pence, who they'd been saying

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<v Speaker 1>they want to hang for treason. It was always struck

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<v Speaker 1>by like this kind of feeling that there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things I didn't think the public got much

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<v Speaker 1>of a chance to see, and just kind of ever

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<v Speaker 1>since wondered where does the militia movement go from here

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<v Speaker 1>after this kind of huge calamitous event. You know, are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to look back at January sixth as the

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<v Speaker 1>peak of militia violence in America? Or is just the

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<v Speaker 1>prelude to something even more consequential.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Caplin is an investigative reporter at Pro Publica. After

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<v Speaker 2>January sixth, he didn't just wonder what would happen next

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<v Speaker 2>for the militia movement. He decided to find out. He

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<v Speaker 2>gained access to hundreds of thousands of internal messages sent

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<v Speaker 2>by the Shadowy Militia Group AP three or American Patriot

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<v Speaker 2>three Percenters. These messages tell the story of AP three

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<v Speaker 2>from the ashes of January six for their transformation into

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<v Speaker 2>one of the biggest armed right wing militias in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. Now AP three is gearing up for the

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<v Speaker 2>November election, and Josh has uncovered a picture of what

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<v Speaker 2>could happen next. From Schwartz Media. I'm Ruby Jones. This

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<v Speaker 2>is seven AM today Josh Caplan on the three Percenters,

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<v Speaker 2>their politics and their plans. It's Monday, September sixteen. So Josh,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought we could go right back to the very

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of your interest in this. Can you take me

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<v Speaker 2>into your reporting and tell me about the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>picture that you started to form of AP three and

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<v Speaker 2>the ideology.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the three Percenters take their name from

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<v Speaker 1>the claim that only three percent of Americans fought in

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<v Speaker 1>the American Revolution. So it's organized around this idea that

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<v Speaker 1>a very small vanguard can, with concerted action, stand up

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<v Speaker 1>against what they see as tyranny. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>chief activities this group has is very serious paramilitary training,

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<v Speaker 1>getting together with guns and practicing storming buildings with semi

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<v Speaker 1>armatic rifles, attacking dummies with knives, but there's all these

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<v Speaker 1>strange things about the groups that I found surprising. They

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<v Speaker 1>do charity drives for the homeless, they celebrate Valentine's Day together,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a monthly magazine with kids games in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>And the leader of the group, Scot said, is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a surprising figure to lead a major paramilitary group.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, guys. Just want to wish everybody a very safe, happy,

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<v Speaker 3>healthy Thanksgiving holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a former Army reservist, but also spent most of

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<v Speaker 1>his adult life bouncing between jobs. He worked as the

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<v Speaker 1>manager for a small time rapper. He worked as a

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<v Speaker 1>model and appeared on the cover of erotic books.

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<v Speaker 3>We're a conservative American law abiding group. We believe in

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<v Speaker 3>constitutional law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>It started on basically just an idea on Facebook, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, before long it was several thousand people that

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<v Speaker 1>span active duty law enforcement, active duty military, alongside convicted criminals,

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<v Speaker 1>small business owners, healthcare professionals. But broadly they see themselves

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<v Speaker 1>as the last line of defense against the excesses of

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<v Speaker 1>the government and the left.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they're going to find out who has not gotten

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<v Speaker 4>their vaccine, who has an American flag outs out in

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<v Speaker 4>front of their hole, who's the conservative, who's the conservative

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<v Speaker 4>gun owner?

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<v Speaker 3>They are going to feel you out.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me, If you take a lot of what Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is saying literally, then we're in a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>America has been taken over in a vast conspiracy. The

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<v Speaker 1>authorities are either sleep at the wheels or in on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are coming for you. It's the exact sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing that they feel like they need to step into.

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<v Speaker 1>No one else is going to do anything. So these

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<v Speaker 1>brave men and their guns are going to make a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Right And Josh, the militia movement, it didn't with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>So where does something like AP three come from? And

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<v Speaker 2>how has it evolved?

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<v Speaker 1>So the modern militia movement in the US started in

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<v Speaker 1>the early nineties really around issues of gun control, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was expanding rapidly. And then in nineteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 1>a military veteran with militia tized blew up a government

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<v Speaker 1>building in Oklahoma City and killed almost two hundred people,

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<v Speaker 1>which was at the time the largest of terrorist attack

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<v Speaker 1>ever on American soil.

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<v Speaker 2>And Nathay McVeigh guilty guilty of murder, guilty of conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 2>guilty on all eleven federal charges that he faced in

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<v Speaker 2>the Oklahoma City bombing trial.

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<v Speaker 1>And that kind of killed the movement in the US

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. But then in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>eight you have Obama's election, who is portrayed by much

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<v Speaker 1>of conservative media as this undercover Marxist as a secret Muslim.

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<v Speaker 1>Obama and his wife, I'm concerned that they could be

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<v Speaker 1>anti white, that he might hide that a Christian. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a crustation. What is our counter going end up?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 1>And you also have a financial crisis. Those two factors

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<v Speaker 1>kind of rekindled this new generation of groups. So AP

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<v Speaker 1>three and other three percenters groups started at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>The Oaskeepers, who became very famous for their role in

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<v Speaker 1>the Capital Riot, became very big national militias in the US.

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<v Speaker 5>The events in Washington have taken a violent and tumultuous

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<v Speaker 5>turn in the past few hours, as thousands of supporters

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<v Speaker 5>of President Trump stormed the US Capital Building, venting their

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<v Speaker 5>anger at the victory of Joe Biden in the presidential election.

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<v Speaker 5>They forced the evacuation.

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<v Speaker 1>The people involved in the January sixth riot are associated

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<v Speaker 1>with the January sixth riot. In the weeks after, there

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<v Speaker 1>were pariahs groups like AP three and other groups like

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<v Speaker 1>it were just hemorrhaging members and they know their leaders

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<v Speaker 1>were talking internally that we may not survive this. This

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<v Speaker 1>may be the end of our movement. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>time of real strife and depression for this wing of

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<v Speaker 1>the far right. So what changed One there was a

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<v Speaker 1>shift in the political climate that none of them expected,

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<v Speaker 1>where Trump and other prominent figures in the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 1>embracing the January sixth writers as patriots.

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<v Speaker 6>They were there with love in their heart.

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<v Speaker 4>That was it unbelievable, and it was a beautiful day.

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<v Speaker 1>And you started having people actually joined saying I was

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by January six And they were able to have

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<v Speaker 1>really pretty massive success recruiting through Facebook again, with as

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<v Speaker 1>many as fifty people applying every day to join. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't take very long for that to become a really

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<v Speaker 1>large number. They've already tried to shape American life through

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<v Speaker 1>armed vigilanti operations, and they've been royaled by this pass

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<v Speaker 1>intensifying schism over the question if and when they should

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<v Speaker 1>commit mass political.

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<v Speaker 2>Violence after the break the actions AP three are already

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<v Speaker 2>taking and what will happen should Trump lose. So josh

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<v Speaker 2>AP three started to grow again after January sixth. They

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<v Speaker 2>went from being shunned in the immediate aftermath of that

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<v Speaker 2>day to having people line up to join them. So

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<v Speaker 2>can you tell me what you've learned about what they've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing with this reinvigorated membership. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these are people that regularly put themselves into

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<v Speaker 1>very volatile situations while heavily art and so they have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of tactics, you know, from staging a counter

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<v Speaker 1>protest of a defund the police rally with the explicit

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of building ties with police. They talk about getting

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence from them and actually being asked by the police

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<v Speaker 1>to assist them in operations. They were assaulting Black Lives

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<v Speaker 1>Matter protesters and rounding up migrants at the US Mexico border,

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<v Speaker 1>doing these armed vigilanti patrols where they would catch migrants

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<v Speaker 1>and at gunpoint stop them and pass them along to

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement. Okay, guys, American pageor Super.

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<v Speaker 4>Sam, we are here. We are on the border as

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<v Speaker 4>we said we would be.

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<v Speaker 1>We rived earlier today and then in the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two mid term elections, Scott said kind of put out

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<v Speaker 1>a call to arms that they were going to stake

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<v Speaker 1>out ballot boxes where people can drop off absentee ballots

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<v Speaker 1>and try to intimidate people that they believed might be

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<v Speaker 1>trying to commit fraud. Very quickly went wrong because one

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<v Speaker 1>of their members was standing outside a ballot box in

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona with a handgun on his chest, in full tactical gear,

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<v Speaker 1>and he got a confrontation with a woman. Law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>arrived the scene, and this quickly blew up became a

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<v Speaker 1>huge national story.

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<v Speaker 6>Officials in Arizona are now stepping up security after describing

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<v Speaker 6>instances in which vigilantes their word were seen loitering around

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<v Speaker 6>ballot boxes. NBC's gave Gutierra's reports from Miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>Ba count As soon as the guy was in the news,

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<v Speaker 1>he quit the group in order to protect them. And

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<v Speaker 1>so is anyone reading about this at the time and

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<v Speaker 1>for many months later would just think, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a lone wolf rather than fairly carefully organized vigilanti operation

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<v Speaker 1>from a militia, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And so as that's happened, and as we've moved closer

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<v Speaker 2>and closer to election day, what are we hearing from

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<v Speaker 2>the group's founder from Settin.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been going through some difficulties with the groups. As

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<v Speaker 1>I said, he was an army reservist, but he presented

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<v Speaker 1>himself as as much more than that kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he said on a public resume that he was a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran of the Gulf War. You know, this is something

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<v Speaker 1>he leaned on to get authority within the group, to

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<v Speaker 1>get people to follow him. And eventually one of his

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<v Speaker 1>own members got their hands on his discharge papers, and

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<v Speaker 1>according to his military discharge papers, he was active duty

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<v Speaker 1>for five months, and that consisted of initial training that

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<v Speaker 1>caused an explosion internally of people who felt they'd been

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<v Speaker 1>lied to, And then a rumor started to spread that

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<v Speaker 1>he was under investigation for fraud, and that led to

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people leaving the group and joining other militias.

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<v Speaker 1>So broadly, the movement has gotten more fractured and more

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<v Speaker 1>to centralize, and that means that it could be much

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<v Speaker 1>harder for law enforcement to track these groups and to

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<v Speaker 1>intervene before one can commit violence.

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<v Speaker 2>So can we talk about the upcoming election. We're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>signs already that Trump, should he lose, might not concede defeat.

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<v Speaker 3>I will totally accept the results of this great and

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<v Speaker 3>historic presidential election.

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<v Speaker 1>If I win.

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<v Speaker 2>He's alluded to a blood bath.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if I don't get elected.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to be a bloodbath for the whole that's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the least of it. It's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a bloodbath for the content.

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<v Speaker 2>How do comments like that get interpreted by AP three

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<v Speaker 2>members and what are they actually saying about their intentions

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<v Speaker 2>for the upcoming election.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the really crucial question behind all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>just to give a taste of this, how they're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about this. In AB three, they're sure it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be stolen again. One leader wrote that this election is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be decided at the ballot, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be decided at the amal box. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the polling numbers, even of how Americans are

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<v Speaker 1>viewing political violence, support for political violence seems to only

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<v Speaker 1>be growing. And these groups haven't gone away. They've gotten smarter,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, if AP three is any example, they've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten angrier. I think the things that experts are most

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<v Speaker 1>fearful of is if trump fulfills the promise he's made

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<v Speaker 1>repeatedly that if he wins, he will pardon January sixth defendants.

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<v Speaker 1>They fear that whatever his intention is, people on the

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<v Speaker 1>most extreme side of the Republican Party could take it

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<v Speaker 1>as a get out of jail free card for committing

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<v Speaker 1>violence for the cause.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Josh, thank you so much for your time today.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Also in the news today, former top public servant Katherine

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<v Speaker 2>Campbell says she's escapegoat after an independent review found her

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<v Speaker 2>to have breached the Public Service Code of Conduct in

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<v Speaker 2>relation to her handling of the illegal Robodet scheme. Miss

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<v Speaker 2>Campbell is among twelve current and former public servants who've

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<v Speaker 2>been found to have breached their obligations ninety seven times

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<v Speaker 2>according to the Australian Public Service Commissioner Review. And voters

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<v Speaker 2>in New South Wales will wait several weeks to find

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<v Speaker 2>out the official results of the council elections held over

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend. It's been an unusual election marched by the

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales Liberal Party accidentally failing to nominate more

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<v Speaker 2>than one hundred and thirty six councilors across sixteen different

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<v Speaker 2>council areas. I'm Ruby Jones. This is seven am. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>You