WEBVTT - Are You a Black Cat or a Golden Retriever?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to First things first, I'm brook Blooding. My pronouns

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<v Speaker 1>are she and her.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Maddie Meals. My pronouns are he and him. And

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<v Speaker 2>before we get started with life, to acknowledge the custodians

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<v Speaker 2>of the land on which we record. And for me

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<v Speaker 2>today that's the gatigal people of the urination.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me it's a wondering people of the cooler nation.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's get into it. Yeah, let's go to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've just come from a big, massive day

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<v Speaker 2>doing an awesome job that you can't talk about right now,

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<v Speaker 2>but super cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Just talking shit. You know, that's my job these days.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how I got here or what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing, but I seem to make money from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Still getting their bag, but talking shit, gotta.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it, actual but actually talking about talking hilariously. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>losing my voice, as you can tell, I'm a bit crook.

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<v Speaker 3>And I realized that I get like the sad blues

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<v Speaker 3>when I get sick, Like I generally don't like feeling ill,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know that everyone doesn't. That's a very normal feeling,

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<v Speaker 3>but a man, it's like seasonal depression.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like sickness depression. I get the man flu.

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<v Speaker 3>I get real angry, real irritated, real sad, like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>down and.

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<v Speaker 1>All I want is some sun What can you do?

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<v Speaker 3>We're really into this autumn winter now, like we're really

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<v Speaker 3>in it, like they ain't gonna be any sunshine and

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<v Speaker 3>no sunshine and gess.

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<v Speaker 2>And on that note, we better move on.

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<v Speaker 3>The way I'm wasting my voice right now? Is I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, you're on your last vocal cards there, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, don't be mocking my singing.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you a funny story about this whole

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<v Speaker 2>mocking the singing vibe? Okay? On the weekend, I went

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<v Speaker 2>and caught up with some.

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<v Speaker 1>Friends, and I do think your friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, I'm so proud of you. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, it's probably a stretch naming them friend cleaned?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we your friends?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, don't even have their numbers just on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I just saw them on the side of the

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<v Speaker 2>street and said, hey, do you want to hang? But no, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>they're good friends of mine and they're black fellows. But

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<v Speaker 2>I did the most shame thing, and I woke up

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday thinking to myself, why did I do that? And

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<v Speaker 2>it was that I was with someone who's a singer,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was trying to prove to them that I

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<v Speaker 2>could sing. Don't and see. Let me tell you, there's

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that I can't do in the world and

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm happy to admit, and it's to sing. But

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<v Speaker 2>this person, Scotty Campbell, their name is and they're Blackfellow,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're a queer performer and great voice. We were

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<v Speaker 2>watching YouTube videos of like Mariah Kerry, Whitney Houston, and

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<v Speaker 2>Scotty was singing along and having these amazing like harmonies

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<v Speaker 2>and hitting these notes. And here I was sitting next

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<v Speaker 2>to him. Sounded like a dead, dying cat. I could

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<v Speaker 2>only imagine what he was feeling like in that moment,

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<v Speaker 2>because when I woke up on Monday morning, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel shame for myself. Oh I can't really do it.

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<v Speaker 2>God funny, I'm like, did you ever get drunk and

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<v Speaker 2>do like rap battles?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I didn't ever do rap battles.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've always sung, and I sung in church when

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<v Speaker 3>I was younger, like when we were in foster care.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I've spoken about this quite a few times I've

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<v Speaker 3>got a bit of a complex with singing, mind you, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I just feel like I got forced to sing

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<v Speaker 3>in church, so I didn't enjoy it. So for a

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<v Speaker 3>very long time I didn't really use my voice or sing.

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<v Speaker 2>What church songs did you sing? Because I sung in

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<v Speaker 2>church as well? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Could I remember him now? Like Lord, Jesus is my savior,

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<v Speaker 3>like that kind of thing, you know, Jesus saving you hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember singing all of those songs and feeling

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<v Speaker 2>really like I felt like really Christian.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know what, There's one song that I do

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<v Speaker 3>love and it is it is this Jesus song, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's got a It's called Oceans May Fall or Oceans

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<v Speaker 3>Fall Apart or something, and it's a really nice song,

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<v Speaker 3>but it more speaks to ocean, you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that song and may far. That song's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>But you see influencers now doing like inspirational videos with

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<v Speaker 2>that song underneath they have.

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<v Speaker 3>No idea like it is not it's a religious song

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<v Speaker 3>and it's also by a heel song who are hugely homophobiical.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I know exactly what song you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But there my complex is singing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny because now obviously doing Howard Fine and

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<v Speaker 3>working and acting, we're teaching your learning.

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<v Speaker 1>How to use your voice.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if I actually had mentioned this

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<v Speaker 3>on the previous episodes, but I had a big breakthrough

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<v Speaker 3>with my voice where I went to a range that

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<v Speaker 3>I'd never gone to before. So my voice teacher, so

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<v Speaker 3>we had to do this exercise, which seems so terrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>People say that actors they're the people that are running

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<v Speaker 3>into the burning building. So actors are putting themselves in

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<v Speaker 3>the fire pretty much right every single time they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>a character. So with boys, we have to learn to

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<v Speaker 3>put ourselves there right. And this exercise was we had

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<v Speaker 3>to sing our name, so you had to sit in

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<v Speaker 3>a seat facing the stage, compose yourself, walk down the stage,

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<v Speaker 3>turn around to everyone, and sing your name in front

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<v Speaker 3>of everyone, like sing it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was terrified.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time I say that to someone, someone is like

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<v Speaker 3>that sounds like my absolute nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm having to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do this and it's fine because I did it, but

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like this energy in my chest like obviously

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<v Speaker 3>it's anxiety but also probably trauma. But it was all

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<v Speaker 3>these emotions and I just was I was just pretty

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<v Speaker 3>honest and vulnerable and said, look, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>it is. I just feel like this heavy chest part.

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<v Speaker 3>And so she took me to the wall, which is

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<v Speaker 3>like the black wall in the studio, and I had

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<v Speaker 3>to yell at it to scream, but not scream from

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<v Speaker 3>my throat, scream from my belly, like a real primal yell,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like a mother yelling for her baby if

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<v Speaker 3>there was something.

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<v Speaker 1>Happened, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had to do that until my voice got

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<v Speaker 3>to a point where it went like it dipped.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was so weird. It was such a weird experience.

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<v Speaker 2>So fucking cooked.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Acting training is cooked. Like if you had no context,

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<v Speaker 2>walked past the studio, looked and saw what actors were doing,

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<v Speaker 2>you would call the cops. You like, somebody helped these people.

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<v Speaker 2>They're bad, somebody locked them up, Like I know, no context.

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<v Speaker 2>Acting class is just womba.

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<v Speaker 3>We're literally doing improvisation at the moment and it's fucking

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<v Speaker 3>It is so fun, but at the same time, it's

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<v Speaker 3>so cooked. But this is a thing they say, right

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<v Speaker 3>and you would know, is that they break you down

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<v Speaker 3>to build you up. And you're right in so many

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<v Speaker 3>ways with it looking a bit one bar, a bit crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>But I have never felt better in my own ability

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of what I bring to being an actor

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<v Speaker 3>in some way.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, Yeah, because it comes down to truth and tapping

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<v Speaker 2>into honesty, and like I find that with acting there's

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<v Speaker 2>always a part of myself that I need to go

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<v Speaker 2>to to get to like the conviction that I feel

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be believed. And I remember in acting school.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to my first week of acting school and

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<v Speaker 2>we're walking through the halls of whoppap and it felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've seen the movie Fame, it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like it was like you're walking, You're looking in

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<v Speaker 2>each door and somebody is just, you know, going at it,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's playing a trumpet over here, doing ballet lessons

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<v Speaker 2>over here, dancing over there, other people doing improvisation in

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<v Speaker 2>this room. And one of the rooms we got to,

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<v Speaker 2>all the students were completely naked.

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<v Speaker 1>Clo top of each other or standing or sitting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it wasn't quite an orgy. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, we are not doing that. Fun is

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<v Speaker 1>not doing naked.

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<v Speaker 2>And they shouldn't. This was a prank that was pulled

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<v Speaker 2>by a class of actors to intimidate the first years

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<v Speaker 2>that are coming in. And it was a tradition that

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<v Speaker 2>was done every year at whop Up. So the first

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<v Speaker 2>years come and they're doing this tour of the school

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<v Speaker 2>and they get to this one classroom and everyone's naked

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like that's what in their head is what

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<v Speaker 2>they have to do, and they just shit themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>That is such a cruel prank, but also it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Cruel and it's also like fucked up, and it's also

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<v Speaker 2>psychologically like disturbing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and also how uncomfortable the people that also have

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<v Speaker 3>to contribute. Like I get if you're comfortable, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 3>but also imagine being a part of the class and

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<v Speaker 3>being like, hey, this is what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'd be like get fucked.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's normally the third years, so the people who

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<v Speaker 2>are in their final year, who have seen every bit

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<v Speaker 2>of each other's body years and never lived together and

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<v Speaker 2>probably fucked each everyone throughout the classroom, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, like we have intimacic coordinative.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the industry is changing and I'm glad for it,

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<v Speaker 2>but that that was one of my first experiences that Whopper,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like acting is fucked also it's a

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<v Speaker 2>mind game, you know, like in those initial years, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like trying to break your fucking brain in some of

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<v Speaker 2>these classes. But I don't know, how do you finding

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<v Speaker 2>it in terms of when you walk out of the door,

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<v Speaker 2>you able to leave it there or do you like

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<v Speaker 2>go home and be like what did I do today?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I see?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like classic.

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<v Speaker 3>Overachiever slash, you know, like a bit of a nerd

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<v Speaker 3>in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>So I go home and there are some days.

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<v Speaker 3>When I'm absolutely ref depending on what we've ended on,

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<v Speaker 3>where I'll just crash out. I think my first week,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually fell asleep on the floor in my land

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<v Speaker 3>room in the sun like a little lizard, like close

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<v Speaker 3>to the glass, like I was just so cooked. And

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<v Speaker 3>now I'm probably more in that and analytical stage where

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<v Speaker 3>I know I've learned the foundations now and like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>working and using the techniques that we've been taught to

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<v Speaker 3>because we're at the moment doing scene study, which is

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<v Speaker 3>really exciting. So I'm playing a character called Georgie, and

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<v Speaker 3>Georgie and I are very similar. She grew up in

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<v Speaker 3>the Bronx, now she's in Boston. She's self made. There's

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<v Speaker 3>this big power play thing with her and her boss

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<v Speaker 3>and this guy who's her neighbor who is married, and

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<v Speaker 3>obviously they love each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in love with him, but he's engaged, etc. Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's this old, big debacle.

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<v Speaker 2>This sound like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like my life.

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<v Speaker 3>If I've been honest home literally, I'm been there and

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<v Speaker 3>done that. Next now it's called spark Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. Nu.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you would actually love the play Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's a real power feminist. There's so much to it

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<v Speaker 3>that you could take it wherever if you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>And Georgie's you know, from the Bronx now in Boston,

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<v Speaker 3>and she wears his spike heels which look like sort

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<v Speaker 3>of medieval looking contraption type things. And you know, I'm sexy,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I love sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I have many one night stands.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is Georgie playing by the way, So don't

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<v Speaker 3>even cut this and make it out like I'm just.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling you who I am. The truth comes in.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure you know what you got to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't had a one night stand in ages. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been on a drought. If I'm being honest, Yeah, not dating,

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<v Speaker 3>not seeing anyone. Everyone get fucked and fuck away from me.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy day. This is good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, everyone fuck off for you. Are you listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this? Earone needs to get the fuck away from me.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, you're okay? Yeah, I'm sure. My black cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Error, Oh my god, don't even start on the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>black cat.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's talk about black cat theory.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a new theory that has been trending. It

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<v Speaker 3>has honestly been blowing up my fucking TikTok feed, but

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<v Speaker 3>I keep going back.

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<v Speaker 1>To it and thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>So the theory is is the black cat and Golden

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<v Speaker 3>retriever theory. It's a dating theory, so it's about relationships,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not just about romantic relationships. You can also

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<v Speaker 3>use this in friendship relationships too. They say that black

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<v Speaker 3>cats and golden retrievers work really well in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>because of the dynamic. But they're sort of contrast energies,

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<v Speaker 3>so I would say they're complementary to one another.

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<v Speaker 2>But they only work well supposedly according to this theory.

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<v Speaker 2>And this TikTok person named Enna Christina, and she has

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<v Speaker 2>a whole master class on it it only. She speaks

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<v Speaker 2>very much specifically about heteronormative relationships dynamic, but she says

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<v Speaker 2>that the dynamic only works if the woman is the

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<v Speaker 2>black cat and the man is the Golden Retriever. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that this dynamic can work outside of that constraint.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think about gay relationships, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there's always I don't want to use the term like

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<v Speaker 2>masculine and feminine energy. I want to use more like

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<v Speaker 2>people who seek to be more the driver, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and the person who likes to be taken care of, And.

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<v Speaker 3>There's different There's so many different ways as you can

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<v Speaker 3>describe someone in personalities, right, but there are so many

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<v Speaker 3>different ways and balances in a relationships. It doesn't always

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<v Speaker 3>have to be a masculine feminine sort of energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, let's describe the two different energies. Your black

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<v Speaker 2>cat is someone who's unbothered, borderline selfish, prioritizes themselves above

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else, and is a little bit like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>give a fuck attitude and what you're like projecting onto

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<v Speaker 2>me isn't going to affect me at all, like unbothered,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And the golden retriever is the always trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make it up, or the happy go lucky, always

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<v Speaker 2>excited to see them, perhaps a little bit you know,

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<v Speaker 2>over the top and a little bit naive, and somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who's always trying to win them over. I suppose, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say, I'm a fucking golden retriever in

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<v Speaker 2>and out?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you say this?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I just my argument is that I think I

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<v Speaker 3>agree of this dynamic and this theory to a certain level,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do believe that humans and people are way

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<v Speaker 3>more complex than just this. But this is a theory

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<v Speaker 3>obviously based in relationships and a dynamic that can work

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<v Speaker 3>and be really successful. So I do understand that not

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's going to believe us about this, and we're not

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<v Speaker 3>some experts on it, but and in Christine says that

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<v Speaker 3>there are some really successful relationships that do work because

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<v Speaker 3>of this theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you say that you're a gold and what

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<v Speaker 1>defines you as a golden retriever?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm someone who always wants things to

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<v Speaker 2>be smoothed, so I always come to the table with

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<v Speaker 2>a solution, or I'm someone who if I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there is an issue, I will be the person to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about it. Let's fix it. What's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I help you? What can I do to change?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like I'm always coming to the table

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<v Speaker 2>with solutions instead of being like, oh, well, fuck trying

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<v Speaker 2>to fix this. I'm going to let you sort your

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<v Speaker 2>shit out and I'm going to act unbothered and walk

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<v Speaker 2>away because I've tried it and I've tested it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the person who ends up getting upset because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm too cold, I'm too negative, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm hurting the other person's feelings and that

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<v Speaker 2>to me, doesn't sit well with me. So I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like the Golden Retriever resonates more with me because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a bit soft.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I hope it happy go lucky kind of energy,

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<v Speaker 3>like more optimistic energy, a bit more, but also.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a little bit in a relationship dynamic. For instance,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you an example my current relationship. My partner,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, is quite black.

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<v Speaker 1>Cat energy, and I describe him as.

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<v Speaker 2>A So somebody who I feel like holds their cards

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<v Speaker 2>close to their chest, doesn't give their power away, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>allow you into much so that you have enough detail

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to, I don't know, like relieve them

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<v Speaker 2>from their power. It's just like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say cold, because I don't think they're cold, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they are very like they can be very

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<v Speaker 2>shut off with emotions and like have you arm's length

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<v Speaker 2>the weight and act like if nothing bothers them. And

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<v Speaker 2>I actually have been like trying to take more of

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<v Speaker 2>that on. I'm like, Okay, I'm going to like test

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<v Speaker 2>the waters, right, yeah, test the waters and see how

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<v Speaker 2>it works when I'm that way. And I did it

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, this does not fit me. Okay, what am

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<v Speaker 1>I am? I think I'm a black cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I reckon, Yeah, I'm I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally wearing black today. Ironically.

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<v Speaker 3>See, there's another theory that I've also listened to. Someone

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<v Speaker 3>has to love the other person more so then I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like the other person is kind of chasing in

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<v Speaker 3>a sense. And I feel like this that theory is

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit similar in this black Cat Golden Retriever,

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<v Speaker 3>like where the Golden Retriever is like chasing this black

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<v Speaker 3>cat and never can kind of like grab at it completely.

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<v Speaker 3>And more recently, I mean, I think different dynamics when

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<v Speaker 3>you meet different people. But I think I'm a black

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<v Speaker 3>cat energy by myself. But I think when I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship, I give so much, so I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I am a black cat in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the golden retriever.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the happy, go lucky like wanna make memories and

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<v Speaker 3>do positive things, and I don't feel like I've completely

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<v Speaker 3>got all of them at hand, which is very representative

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<v Speaker 3>of the relationships I've previously been in it right.

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<v Speaker 2>Which also stands to sort of attest to this theory

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<v Speaker 2>that the woman has to be the black cat if

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<v Speaker 2>it's successful, because you haven't found success that much success

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<v Speaker 2>in relationship and so maybe because you are the golden retriever,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to switch that shit be the black cat

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<v Speaker 2>and then maybe it'll work. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I agree, because the thing is, I also have

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<v Speaker 3>just this energy where I just I actually right now

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<v Speaker 3>don't give a fuck about anyone in terms of my

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<v Speaker 3>people that I love and work with, et cetera. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've had the most attention in the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of months, and I've ever had pretty much even more

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<v Speaker 3>during the bachelorette, to be fair with you, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>not bitten. All the fishing are biding and I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>fishing because I just cannot be bothered and I've got

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<v Speaker 3>shit to do and I want someone to chase me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want someone.

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<v Speaker 3>And I actually genuinely met someone who was like chasing me,

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<v Speaker 3>and then all of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Sudden, all the stuff chasing you, like, have they long like.

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<v Speaker 3>Where's my flowers? And where arem I Like, where's the romance?

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<v Speaker 1>Like where's the nice things?

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<v Speaker 3>Not that I am like high maintenance, but it's like

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<v Speaker 3>and then this is the thing, this is a cop

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<v Speaker 3>out that I had more recently, is that I literally

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<v Speaker 3>communicated with someone I was like, I just don't really

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you desire me enough in it any way,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you're not really chasing So then I'm like, well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I know what I'm bringing to the table,

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<v Speaker 3>but like what do you bring into the table. And

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<v Speaker 3>we had the conversation and the blame that I got

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<v Speaker 3>because I am so busy and made and gaslighted and

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<v Speaker 3>made me feel like as if, like my life is

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<v Speaker 3>too busy to have a relationship. Yeah, probably it is,

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<v Speaker 3>but for the right person it wouldn't be that, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like I have been.

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<v Speaker 3>A black Cat in so many other areas. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think I I switch out of black Cat because I

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<v Speaker 3>have to in order to let someone in in the

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<v Speaker 3>first instance, and then they I get I let them in,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they're like, nah, I don't want you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I mean, Like it changes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like I just won't give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's my thing, does not care anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's hard to do when you're somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>naturally cares.

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<v Speaker 3>Say you're sensitive, like you're not sensitive in a suky.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sensitive, but I am, and you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>happy to be sensitive. That means I feel the feels

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<v Speaker 2>and like exactly at the end of the day, I

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<v Speaker 2>care a lot, and in my relationships in particular, I

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<v Speaker 2>do want the person to feel safe. I want them

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<v Speaker 2>to feel secure. I want them to feel like respected.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think with the whole Golden Retriever black Cat energy,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I feel like if that dynamic, which I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think is the dynamic I will want in a relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know how much like I agree with

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<v Speaker 2>Christina that this needs to be the dynamic for a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship to work, because for me, I like equal playing

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<v Speaker 2>field I don't need to be someone to be chasing

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<v Speaker 2>me or me to be chasing them. I actually just

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<v Speaker 2>need respect. And like what respect looks like to me

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<v Speaker 2>is that if you respect someone, you're going to make

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<v Speaker 2>choices based on that respect. And if you don't respect someone,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're going to make choices that are going to

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<v Speaker 2>hurt that person or you know, you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to be loyal, or you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be kind to them. But when I have respect

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship, I feel like other things that come

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 3>That should be the basis of a relationship, right, there

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<v Speaker 3>are so many other things that come into play when

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<v Speaker 3>it's a serious and successful relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, mutual respect.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Chantelle Otten says that this theory isn't new,

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<v Speaker 3>and it could be it could be damaging in some

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<v Speaker 3>ways if you constantly focus on it. And I guess

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<v Speaker 3>why I kept coming back to it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>is this an actual legitimate thing or have I got

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<v Speaker 3>it completely wrong? Because I, like I said, Yah, humans

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<v Speaker 3>and relationships and people are so much more complex than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what does the perfect relationship in terms of dynamic?

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<v Speaker 2>If you were to, you know, draw that this in

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<v Speaker 2>your dream, in your vision board, what does it look like? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Know, I'm really finding it really difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it is because different dynamics haven't

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<v Speaker 3>and have worked. But the thing is, I've also been

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<v Speaker 3>in different times in my life. I keep referring back

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<v Speaker 3>to a relationship I had in twenty nineteen where the

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<v Speaker 3>dynamic was actually just like so perfect, but values were

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<v Speaker 3>compromised and non negotiables, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 3>everything else could be really perfect in terms of dynamic,

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<v Speaker 3>h but if the values and there's some non negotiables,

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<v Speaker 3>then yeah, you have.

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<v Speaker 1>To just accept that. So that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so complex and that and I think for my dynamic,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, because I don't even want a relationship

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<v Speaker 3>with my.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that I'm learning in my relationship right now

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<v Speaker 2>is that ego plays a role in dynamic. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that word.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so do I. And I feel like when ego

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<v Speaker 2>comes into play, it's almost like you have to stop

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<v Speaker 2>drop and roll and be like absolutely abort the fucking

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<v Speaker 2>mission because it's the.

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<v Speaker 1>End of drop and roll and get the fuck out

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<v Speaker 1>of my door. That's what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not that easy to like let them go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, what I'm talking about is if you

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<v Speaker 2>get into a dispute with a partner at home and

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<v Speaker 2>you start it turns into an ego fight that at

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<v Speaker 2>some point you have to then combat that with love,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it is like going in and giving them a

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<v Speaker 2>cud or not saying anything and just being there even

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<v Speaker 2>though you fucking hate you know, what they just said

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<v Speaker 2>or what you've just said, and you hate giving in

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<v Speaker 2>or you hate surrendering to to an issue that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't even think you're a part, like that was your issue.

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<v Speaker 2>I still think that, like what I'm learning is that

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<v Speaker 2>like loving someone in those really yucky moments is more

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<v Speaker 2>helpful than going fuck you, I'm going to go and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do something that's going to affect our relationship

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm going to ignore you or I'm gonna leave you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this something like that I'm having this learning at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment about and it comes down to respect, like

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<v Speaker 2>just still respect that person. If you still respect that

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<v Speaker 2>person even though you're having a fight, you can love

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<v Speaker 2>them in that moment anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I completely agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think in the times where I think ego has

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<v Speaker 3>had the biggest impact, has led to a breakup. If

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<v Speaker 3>I've been honest in my situations, I David and I

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<v Speaker 3>pure ego Nick and I ego Yeah, many of times, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what leads to really bad decisions in life, not

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<v Speaker 2>just relationships ego people not want to put their pride aside.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, at the end of the day, if you

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<v Speaker 2>really like someone, the dynamic I think is fluid. It

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<v Speaker 2>has to shift. It can't be always someone as one

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<v Speaker 2>way or there's one approach, for instance, the black cat

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<v Speaker 2>fucking Golden Retriever theory. For me, that wouldn't work because

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<v Speaker 2>even though I'm the Golden Retriever and I'm chasing, there

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<v Speaker 2>are still parts of me that needs to be chased

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<v Speaker 2>or needs to feel like I've got that.

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<v Speaker 1>Q yeah yeah, yeah of course.

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<v Speaker 2>So like for me, it wouldn't work. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that like this is more of like Anna Christina wanting

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<v Speaker 2>women to feel empowered in their relationships, and honestly, I

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<v Speaker 2>know what that feels like. It feels like for a

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<v Speaker 2>woman to have to feel like they need to hear

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<v Speaker 2>be back.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I think it is like such a trending

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<v Speaker 3>thing at the moment because I think from what we're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at TikTok and.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the trend.

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<v Speaker 3>Of videos are a lot of dating videos and women

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<v Speaker 3>talking about their experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a woman that went viral recently because she.

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<v Speaker 3>Got stood up off a hinge date, and yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>comments section about how relatable this was was insane, like

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of the dating pool out there. And I

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<v Speaker 3>guess Australian men like not to fucking call you out

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<v Speaker 3>again because you're absolutely pathetic. And I honestly I like

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<v Speaker 3>separate queer men from that because or queer people from that,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's the Australian men that are problems at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, but not know what I feel like as a

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<v Speaker 2>queen man if I'm not a part of the solution

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<v Speaker 2>or a part of the problem. So if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>queen person and you're not speaking up against against women,

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<v Speaker 2>well then you're just as bad as the perpetrator.

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<v Speaker 1>One. I agree with you that one.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is the thing, Like the videos that are

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<v Speaker 3>trending on TikTok are usually women expressing their concerns and

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<v Speaker 3>difficulty with dating and how shit it is at the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they can feel empowered in that and they're

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<v Speaker 3>watching and Christina's videos and being like, yes, that's how

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<v Speaker 3>I need to be, and that's going to boost their

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<v Speaker 3>boost their confidence or you know, they're trying something different,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they're feeling insecure, and then they become.

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<v Speaker 1>Like whatever it is and if that helps them, then

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<v Speaker 1>they're sure. I'm all for that.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, like, don't heavily rely on

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<v Speaker 3>a theory that is so.

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<v Speaker 1>Complex.

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<v Speaker 2>In a way, it's complex, but it also it reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me of game playing, and that's something I hate doing

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship is game playing. So when I realized that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a game a tennis come like with metaphor within

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship, and there's this little game, whether it's social

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<v Speaker 2>media tactics, whether it's you know, passive aggressiveness, that they

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<v Speaker 2>will give you a nudge here and play this little

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<v Speaker 2>game of manipulating your emotions. I hate that shit. And

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<v Speaker 2>so sometimes this reminds me of putting the pressure on

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<v Speaker 2>a woman to have to play a game to then

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<v Speaker 2>feel in control of a man's emotions. And to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of pressure, whether you're a woman or a.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Like, don't waste your time, Honestly, they don't notice.

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<v Speaker 2>But but a video when she describes you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>two scenarios. She's like, don't be the girl who arrives

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<v Speaker 2>at the party early, who stays and cleans up and

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<v Speaker 2>helps you know him, put the food out, do the dishes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then leave at the end of the party. Be

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<v Speaker 2>the girl who doesn't arrive at the party or arrives

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<v Speaker 2>really late and leaves early and goes home. That's me

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<v Speaker 2>And like, to me, if I was a woman listening

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<v Speaker 2>to that, I'll be thinking, kind of, just be my

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<v Speaker 2>fucking self. But can't I just live within my truth

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever that means? But like, is it really that hard?

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's this dynamic that needs to come into play.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a rule book. Isn't that so much pressure?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly? But this is a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it seems like games, but this is a

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<v Speaker 3>thing in dating at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And from what I've realized and.

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<v Speaker 3>From what I've learned, is that there is such a

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<v Speaker 3>matter of games in this. It's like it is such

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<v Speaker 3>a dog eat dog world out there in terms of no, seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually so fucked It sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's a black cat eat dog world.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And I'll fucking eat your live because I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>about the games. I'm also about being in genuine self.

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<v Speaker 3>And if I was fucking late, I chose to be late.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck it, Like who cares. Don't overthink it, stop overanalyzing,

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<v Speaker 3>and stop being a fucking pussy or a bull sack,

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<v Speaker 3>because a strong ball sacks are fucking little sensitive fuckers

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<v Speaker 3>that if they get touched they hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, well you know, allright, no offense, Maddie.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you've got pair of balls, but I love you,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think you've got big balls involved.

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<v Speaker 2>I am, and but you know what, I am sensitive,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like if I was in a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>and my girlfriend was constantly arriving late or disrespecting my time,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, see ya bye, gotta go catch her later.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not the type that's going to sit around

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, oh, you know what, you do what

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do, and I'll do what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to do. And you disrespecting my time isn't going.

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<v Speaker 3>To be like communicate, though, this is the thing I

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<v Speaker 3>would analyze.

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<v Speaker 2>To communicate, I definitely would be like, Okay, well that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>no worries, you can keep on doing that. Like absolutely fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I'd be like, girl, you need to pick

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<v Speaker 2>up your game otherwise I'm out. Well, that's all we

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