WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 7 August

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<v Speaker 1>Lately, General Man, welcome the Late Base.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to have your company on the Late Debate.

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<v Speaker 2>James Macpherson with Liz Stauer and Caleb Bond. If you

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<v Speaker 2>ever wondered what happens to those birds that get stuck

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<v Speaker 2>in shopping centers, Well we've found out what happens. Someone's

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<v Speaker 2>come up with a genius plan to freedom. We'll show

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<v Speaker 2>you that later. It's a good news story. Plus, when

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<v Speaker 2>we look at the papers and Ossie Olympian facing drug

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<v Speaker 2>chargers and Australian researchers have solved at least part of

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<v Speaker 2>the puzzle of autism. Will bring you that story as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's from tomorrow's Australian newspaper. But first spy chiefs warned

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<v Speaker 2>us this week that the domestic terror threat has been

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<v Speaker 2>raised from likely to probable. Moreover, they warned that if

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<v Speaker 2>an attack came, it would likely come from a young

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<v Speaker 2>person who'd been radicalized online. So with those warnings still

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<v Speaker 2>ringing in our ears, this story from the Adelaide Advertiser

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<v Speaker 2>got our attention today. The headline reads boy fourteen freed

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<v Speaker 2>on bail after allegedly using school computers to access extremist material.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this boy was arrested two weeks ago by counter

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<v Speaker 2>terrorism agents for allegedly using a school computer to access

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<v Speaker 2>extremist material, information on explosives and information on how to

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<v Speaker 2>engage in a terrorist act. Prosecutors said they opposed bail,

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<v Speaker 2>but were willing to consider home detention provided the boy

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<v Speaker 2>had no access at all to devices by which he

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<v Speaker 2>might be able to access the Internet. Here's what the

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutors told the court. They said, the foundation for asking

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<v Speaker 2>for home detention is the protection of the community. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a concern in relation to communication that's been sent from

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<v Speaker 2>who he alleges the youth in relation to suggestions or threats,

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<v Speaker 2>which coupled with the allegations before the court, pose a

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<v Speaker 2>real risk to the safety of the community. They show

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<v Speaker 2>a willingness to perform certain acts. Home detention is a

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<v Speaker 2>necessary condition to alleviate that risk to the community. So

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecution was pretty clear. But the magistrate, Ellison Adair

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<v Speaker 2>agreed not just to home attention but also to allowing

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<v Speaker 2>the fourteen year old boy to go back to school

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<v Speaker 2>and to access school computers while at school. Now, remember

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<v Speaker 2>it's alleged that he got information on terrorist acts from

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<v Speaker 2>those school computers. Now, bearing in mind we're dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>allegations and their allegations concerning a child who the court

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<v Speaker 2>heard has the mental ability of a grade three year

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<v Speaker 2>old child. The kid is fourteen. Putting all that to

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<v Speaker 2>one side for a moment, You've got to ask how

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<v Speaker 2>this court decision reflects the concerns of our spy agencies

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<v Speaker 2>who've warned us a terror threat from a young person

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<v Speaker 2>radicalized online is probable. How the court decision reflects concerns

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<v Speaker 2>of the community in light of those warnings, and what

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<v Speaker 2>does it say to fam and school children who are

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<v Speaker 2>at that school. Remember it was just three months ago

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<v Speaker 2>in Perth that a sixteen year old school student was

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<v Speaker 2>shot dead by police when he attempted a ghardy attack

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<v Speaker 2>on someone at Bunnings. It was only after that we

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<v Speaker 2>learned that boy had been at school whilst on a

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<v Speaker 2>watch list and undergoing a deradicalization program. So with all

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<v Speaker 2>of that in light, Caleb, this seems like a really

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<v Speaker 2>strange decision to me.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd have to say the decision of the magistrate is

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<v Speaker 3>out of line with community expectations and it would be

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<v Speaker 3>one thing to say that he's on home detention and

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<v Speaker 3>that means he is at home one hundred percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to that,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a spot that you know, in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>youth detention, that could be used for someone who has

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<v Speaker 3>actually committed a violent crime or some such but to

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<v Speaker 3>allow the kid to go back to school when he

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<v Speaker 3>is alleged to have been accessing extremist material on school computers.

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<v Speaker 3>If you were the parent of another child at that school,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be saying, hang on a minute, do I really

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<v Speaker 3>want my kid going to school with another kid who

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<v Speaker 3>has potentially been radicalized and allegedly has been accessing extremist

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<v Speaker 3>material at school. You'd be worried about what your child

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<v Speaker 3>might be exposed to going to school with that kid,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if they are in the same class. And of course,

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to these matters involving children, we can't

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<v Speaker 3>tell you their names. That's automatically suppressed under the law.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's quite possible that you, as a parent wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>know the identity or you most probably don't know the

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<v Speaker 3>identity of the child that is alleged to have done this,

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<v Speaker 3>so you don't know whether he is in your kid's

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<v Speaker 3>class or is in the class next door, or whether

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<v Speaker 3>they're interacting in.

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<v Speaker 1>The school yard, etc. I would be really.

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<v Speaker 3>Uncomfortable as a parent sending my kid back to that

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<v Speaker 3>school knowing that was there, and it just cannot be

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<v Speaker 3>careful enough in these cases.

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<v Speaker 1>Why let him go back to school?

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<v Speaker 3>Other ways he can access education, He can learn from home,

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<v Speaker 3>We were doing that for a long time. He could

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<v Speaker 3>be home schooled, He can access all sorts of services.

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<v Speaker 3>Why must he be allowed to go back to interact

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<v Speaker 3>with other kids?

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<v Speaker 4>I do not get it, indeed, and from another angle,

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<v Speaker 4>why was he able to access this on school computers?

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<v Speaker 4>Kids shouldn't be able to access how to put together explosives,

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<v Speaker 4>which we know was information that he had in hand,

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<v Speaker 4>any more than they should be able to access pornography.

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<v Speaker 4>When we're talking about school tablets, school computers, school computer

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<v Speaker 4>devices of any kind, you can buy software net nanny

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<v Speaker 4>type stuff that makes these computers useless if that's the

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<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff that you're trying to look up. So

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<v Speaker 4>my first thought upon reading this story was, how was

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<v Speaker 4>this even possible? We know many schools do put those

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of measures in place, especially those that allow students

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<v Speaker 4>to take away tablets. They will get a year tablet,

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<v Speaker 4>and that is their tablet or year.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not like they get to take it.

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<v Speaker 4>Home and then just do whatever they like in their

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<v Speaker 4>spare time. No, it's a school tablet and it is

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<v Speaker 4>programmed as such and therefore is useless if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to be doing anything untoward. So this school seems to

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<v Speaker 4>have been quite negligent in that respect. There's nothing I

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<v Speaker 4>read on this case today that indicated that this kid

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<v Speaker 4>had any access to it at home or on any

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<v Speaker 4>other devices. So where does the liability, the culpability of

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<v Speaker 4>the school come into this. And secondly, it really does

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<v Speaker 4>highlight what we were discussing last time.

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<v Speaker 5>This made headlines with.

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<v Speaker 4>Regard to the police saying yes about radicalization of younger

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<v Speaker 4>people online, but particularly those who do have mental incapacities,

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<v Speaker 4>those who may be experiencing autism, etc. They are particularly

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<v Speaker 4>vulnervulnerable to this kind of stuff online. There you see

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<v Speaker 4>it in broad daylight. This kid, who has the mental

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<v Speaker 4>comprehension of someone in year three has fallen foul. Just

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<v Speaker 4>as they warned, these particular kids are increasingly more vulnerable

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<v Speaker 4>than any of the others.

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<v Speaker 2>It just biggs belief to me that a magistrate who

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<v Speaker 2>would have seen the press conference we all saw with

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<v Speaker 2>Asier Mike Burgess talking about the threat, Anthony Albernzi speaking

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I mean, we all watched it. We all

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<v Speaker 2>took note. It's a magistrate that far removed from the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the community and the things that people are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about at work and discussing and watching on TV,

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<v Speaker 2>that they just live in a bubble, completely removed and

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<v Speaker 2>devoid of any comprehension of what most people are concerned about.

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<v Speaker 2>This defies any rationale, particularly in light of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a couple of days after we got this warning.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is I mean, we come back to this

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<v Speaker 3>so many times, right where decisions of the judiciary just

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<v Speaker 3>seem to be completely out of kill her with the

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<v Speaker 3>messages coming from law enforcement and government and the two

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<v Speaker 3>have to work hand in hand, Like you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>this case, it would have been so easy to simply say, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>he can have the home detention, but no, he's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to go to school. He can learn, access school

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<v Speaker 3>curriculum whatever at home. We don't want him near other kids,

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<v Speaker 3>and you need the judiciary to come to the table

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<v Speaker 3>on that stuff. I mean, can you imagine Mike Burgess

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<v Speaker 3>and the South Australian Police, the Police Commision of Grant Stevens,

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<v Speaker 3>the state government, the federal government, or tearing their hair

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<v Speaker 3>out going my god, we've just raised the likelihood of

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<v Speaker 3>there being a terror attack in this country to probable,

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<v Speaker 3>which means it is just as likely to happen as

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<v Speaker 3>not happened. It's a fifty to fifty situation. Now we're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to crack down on this. And then the judiciary goes, now,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine. A kid who is alleged to be accessing

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<v Speaker 3>extremist material is allowed to go back and interact with

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<v Speaker 3>all the kids who were around him when he was

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<v Speaker 3>a ledge accessing that extremist material, Like it just seems

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<v Speaker 3>as plain as the nose on your face. But time

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<v Speaker 3>and again the judiciary just makes what seemed to be

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<v Speaker 3>stupid decisions that work against the public interest.

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<v Speaker 4>And Adelaide's got another very serious case pending. Just yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>a twenty seven year old UNI student pleaded not guilty,

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<v Speaker 4>but there's a lot of proof that he is in

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<v Speaker 4>fact guilty. Of course, this will player in court to

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two firearm of fences and one count of planning

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<v Speaker 4>an active terrorism and the kind of guns ammo. Even

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<v Speaker 4>certain things that one mixes to make bombs that they

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<v Speaker 4>found on his property were absolutely hair raising. So you'd

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<v Speaker 4>think again, Adelaide, just within days of each other, the

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<v Speaker 4>magistrate would just be a bit like, is there something

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<v Speaker 4>in the water in Adelaide. Let's take this very seriously

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<v Speaker 4>and again just act in line with community expectations.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that too much to ask?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Where Kamala Harris has chosen her VP pick, all the

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<v Speaker 4>speculation is over, ladies and gentlemen, I'm sure you're on

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<v Speaker 4>the edge of your seats. Not And the man's name

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<v Speaker 4>is Tim Waltz. He is the governor of Minnesota. And

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<v Speaker 4>unlike most VP picks, where a presidential nominee is looking

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<v Speaker 4>for someone who's complimentary but a little bit different, Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>Harris seems to have just picked a white male version

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<v Speaker 4>of herself. He is also a big fan of socialism.

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<v Speaker 5>Here he is telling you so.

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<v Speaker 6>But we can get out there, reach out, make the case,

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<v Speaker 6>and for one thing, don't ever shy away from mark

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<v Speaker 6>progressive values. One person's socialism is another person's neighborliness.

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<v Speaker 4>Neighborliness the regime that's responsible for the deaths of over

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<v Speaker 4>ninety four million people worldwide, and that's a conservative estimate.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy just calls it progressive values. It's just neighborliness.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, you might.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to eat your neighbor at some point of socialism.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be very neighborly. Indeed, you can need me

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<v Speaker 5>to survive longer.

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<v Speaker 3>First, two little boys are being locked away in the

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<v Speaker 3>basement tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>The animals are the first to go.

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<v Speaker 4>But this guy, you may remember him from back in

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<v Speaker 4>the day of the Black Lives Matter riots.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>These all the time here, but for Americans, they were

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<v Speaker 4>the worst riots the nation had seen in decades.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we know Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 4>Was very busy at the time, backing in a bailout

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<v Speaker 4>fund for the rioters who were looting and mobbing their

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<v Speaker 4>way throughout the country. Here was Tim Waltz as the

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<v Speaker 4>governor of Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 5>Addressing his people, saying, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what, this is just what happens when there's not

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<v Speaker 4>enough equality in our society.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what, maybe it's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>While he's talking, there's just the footage on your right,

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<v Speaker 4>which is the vestiges that were left in the wake

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<v Speaker 4>of these rioters in his state of Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 6>A society that does not put equity and inclusion at

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<v Speaker 6>the center of it is certainly going to eventually come

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<v Speaker 6>to the places where we're at. This is a moment

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<v Speaker 6>of inflection. It's a moment of real change. It's a

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<v Speaker 6>moment that those folks who are out there demanding this

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<v Speaker 6>are not going to take a commission or a report.

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<v Speaker 6>They're going to want fundamental change. And that is what

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<v Speaker 6>I think. That's one of the exciting things. In the

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<v Speaker 6>midst of all this. You can feel a sense of

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<v Speaker 6>optimism coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>You can feel a sense of feeling optimism.

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<v Speaker 5>Baby.

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<v Speaker 4>Check out this image of a police station in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of Minneapolis being burned to the ground.

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<v Speaker 5>Check out the mob.

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<v Speaker 4>These were the kind of rioters in the capital of

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<v Speaker 4>his state. And that is what the governor told his people. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you can just feel the positivity. Change is coming, Isn't

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<v Speaker 4>it wonderful? And we all know where this guy stands

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<v Speaker 4>on immigration. He's no better than failed borders are Mala

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<v Speaker 4>Harris herself. Here he is signing into legislation drivers' licenses

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<v Speaker 4>for illegal aliens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's done.

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<v Speaker 7>A packed room at the Saint Paul Armory erupted after

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<v Speaker 7>the governor's signature made driver's license for all the law

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<v Speaker 7>of the land.

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<v Speaker 4>So while she's facilitating over ten million illegal aliens just

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<v Speaker 4>pouring across the Mexican border, he is making sure that

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<v Speaker 4>they can drive around the country like any national great teamwork, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Two, this is going to be a blast.

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<v Speaker 4>And of course you wouldn't be a progressive governor, would

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<v Speaker 4>you unless you looked at your state flag and said,

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<v Speaker 4>we need to make a change.

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<v Speaker 5>This isn't inclusive enough.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's exactly what Tim Waltz did earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, ready, well wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 5>There, that's better, except that it's not better.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that is an objectively ugly flag. Can you

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<v Speaker 4>imagine all the Minnesota's being like, I'm sorry, that was

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<v Speaker 4>so bright and colorful.

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<v Speaker 5>It looked like some sort of seal.

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<v Speaker 4>And he gets up and replaces that this is the

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<v Speaker 4>big new feel of his dei flag for the state.

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<v Speaker 5>It's objectively ugly.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you remember the Westboro Baptist Church and one of

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<v Speaker 3>their sayings, if we are to slightly change it, God

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<v Speaker 3>hates flags.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he certainly hate that one. I reckon.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, seriously, what is Kamala Harris thinking like she

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<v Speaker 3>had in Shapiro. Josh Shapiro sure a reasonable newbie in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of his political career. He was only elected governor

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<v Speaker 3>last year, but he ticked a lot of boxes. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to present a product to the American people

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<v Speaker 3>that says, you know, we're not a radical left outfit here,

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<v Speaker 3>because we know her record. We know that she was,

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<v Speaker 3>as has been described many times, the most liberal senator

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<v Speaker 3>in the United States. And so if you want people

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<v Speaker 3>to come out and vote for you, because of course

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<v Speaker 3>voting not being compulsory in the US, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>give everyone some kind of encouragement to come and choose you.

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<v Speaker 3>And that might simply be that I don't want Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump to win, so I'm going to go and vote

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<v Speaker 3>for Kamala and her pick for VP to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>they get over the line to stop Donald Trump. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>you may well be a very moderate voter, you may

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<v Speaker 3>even be a Republican never Trumper, But then when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at what you're getting here, which is two radicals,

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<v Speaker 3>why would you do it? The only reason I can

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<v Speaker 3>think of that she didn't pick Shapiro, who is more

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<v Speaker 3>moderate than her, is because he is Jewish and he

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<v Speaker 3>has voiced his support for Israel, which would have caused

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<v Speaker 3>her some grief in the left of the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 3>But also you look at traditionally Jewish people, particularly large

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<v Speaker 3>Jewish donors in the United States, have been Democrats, So

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<v Speaker 3>it would have been a great play to that section

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<v Speaker 3>of the Democratic Party. It would have been a more

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<v Speaker 3>moderate candidate who helps, you know, wash her craziness away

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, in the same way that Trump picked

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<v Speaker 3>Pence because he was a much more middle of the

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<v Speaker 3>road choice, and ways picked Vance because you know, he's

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<v Speaker 3>not quite Donald Trump company, plays to the working class base,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera. She's not picked anyone here in Waltz that

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<v Speaker 3>seems to add anything to her campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's kind of hilarious. I mean, of all people,

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris picked a stale, pale mate. I mean, she

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<v Speaker 2>spent the last couple of weeks bagging out white males

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<v Speaker 2>across America for being Republicans typically, and then she goes

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<v Speaker 2>and choose Well.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's often said that women just want to

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<v Speaker 3>hear the same thing said back to them in a

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<v Speaker 3>deeper voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's exactly what he'll be able to do. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not sure and say what she wants here a.

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<v Speaker 4>Great for me, and I'd be like, do you have

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<v Speaker 4>any original thought with.

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<v Speaker 2>Regards image we showed of the Minnesota police station on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>There was an interview with Tim Wilson's wife where she

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how during the BLM riots, she made sure

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<v Speaker 2>that the house's windows were open so the fumes of

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<v Speaker 2>the fires from the riots could come into the house

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<v Speaker 2>and they could connect with what was happening in the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a pivotal moment in America's history. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sick. The report is that Kamala Harris chose this

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<v Speaker 2>guy because they had good rapport, So it wasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>about his policies or what he could add. She just

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<v Speaker 2>felt like he was a good guy. I guess he

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<v Speaker 2>was the only one who she felt would agree with

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<v Speaker 2>him on everything. That might show how stupid he is.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've now got presented to the American people laughable

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<v Speaker 2>and affable. That's your options. And he's about as affable

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<v Speaker 2>as Karl Marx. He makes Bernie Sanders look look positively moderate.

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<v Speaker 2>This guys so left leaning. This would be about the

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<v Speaker 2>most left leaning ticket America's probably ever been presented.

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<v Speaker 7>With.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course what you've been hearing from the Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>is that jd. Vance is apparently crazy and he's mad

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<v Speaker 3>and all this.

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<v Speaker 5>Sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So the Trump campaign has taken that and gone, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you think jd Vance is man? Just take a look

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<v Speaker 3>at this Waltz bloke. They put this out quick smart.

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<v Speaker 7>It could be weirder if the signing a bill into

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<v Speaker 7>law that requires schools to stop tampons in boys' bathrooms,

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<v Speaker 7>or weirder than signing legislation allowing miners to receive sex

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<v Speaker 7>change operations. Try electing the man who signed those bills

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<v Speaker 7>vice president of the United States. Enter chief weirdo Tim

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<v Speaker 7>Wallas as governor of Minnesota. Wall supported legislation, but in

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<v Speaker 7>dangers miners, hurts women, and puts radical ideology ahead of

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<v Speaker 7>common sense. Now Kamala wants Walls to enforce those laws on.

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<v Speaker 5>A national scale.

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<v Speaker 7>Tim Walls too weird, too.

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<v Speaker 3>Radical, beautiful, And I reckon this could well kill her

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<v Speaker 3>chances of gaining the presidency because you know, all the

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<v Speaker 3>polling and all the momentum she's gained behind her by

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<v Speaker 3>being anyone but Biden has been all going in the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Direction for her.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the close see you get to November

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<v Speaker 3>and as some of that support starts to wear off,

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<v Speaker 3>the wind that she's getting behind her now and they

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<v Speaker 3>can continue to run. Now, Democrats, the Republicans should just

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<v Speaker 3>run on. This is a really radical option for president

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<v Speaker 3>and vice president. Forget about the personal attacks now. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>go after Kamala personally, because you don't have to just

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<v Speaker 3>attack her and Waltz on their record and what they

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<v Speaker 3>could possibly do to America. And I think it's put

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<v Speaker 3>Trump potentially back in front again in one fell swoop.

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<v Speaker 2>And funny thing about that ad about Walt's being weird

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<v Speaker 2>is that one of the reasons the Democrats really liked

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<v Speaker 2>Waltz is apparently he was the one who came up

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<v Speaker 2>with the idea of calling JD. Vance weird, which all

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats have embraced. It's gone right through mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 2>So he came up with the term weird for Vance.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's been turned around and used on him because

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<v Speaker 2>he is so extreme. And you're right, Trump doesn't need

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<v Speaker 2>to exaggerate how bad he is, don't need to be hysterical.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave that for Kamala. They simply need to point out

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<v Speaker 2>his record, which as we said, is extremely left.

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<v Speaker 4>Leading, and even prior to entering politics, this guy when

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<v Speaker 4>he ran for governor in twenty eighteen, he previously served

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<v Speaker 4>in the military, so of course they always lean on that,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm such a patren I served.

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<v Speaker 5>In the.

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<v Speaker 4>Ministry, he wants to serve in the ministry, and now

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<v Speaker 4>he gets to. But the Minnesota National Guard leaders in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty eighteen then wrote a letter and paid for it

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<v Speaker 4>to be published in the state rags so that everyone could.

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<v Speaker 5>Read that this guy was a liar.

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<v Speaker 4>He had lied about his rank, he'd quit everything that

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<v Speaker 4>he'd signed up to. Normally, if you sign up for service,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a certain amount of years they're supposed to get

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<v Speaker 4>out of you, so that the taxpayer's investment in training

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<v Speaker 4>you up sending you here and there, putting a house,

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<v Speaker 4>giving you a house to live in, etc.

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<v Speaker 5>And so on while you're being trained.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, then you're in the military for a certain amount

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<v Speaker 4>of time, so everyone gets their money's worth out of you. Basically,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy didn't finish a single thing, and not only that,

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<v Speaker 4>when he found out his unit was going to be

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<v Speaker 4>deployed to Iraq.

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<v Speaker 5>He quit.

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<v Speaker 4>He quit, and left his whole unit hanging because he'd

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<v Speaker 4>been given an honorary. The leaders made it very clear

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<v Speaker 4>in their letter he never earned this position, but he

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<v Speaker 4>did hold a rather senior rank.

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<v Speaker 5>So he pulls the plug. His whole unit.

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<v Speaker 4>Is just like, Okay, we've got no leader and we're

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be going to.

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<v Speaker 5>Iraq like this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>If all the Trump campaign does is focus on that

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<v Speaker 4>this guy is a deserter, he doesn't finish what he started.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't serve our country with distinction, that alone is

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<v Speaker 4>enough to get every patriot in America to just be like,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy is the scum of the earth.

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<v Speaker 5>Who does that?

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<v Speaker 4>And especially given how much the Trump camp really revere

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<v Speaker 4>their military, really look after their military, and the Biden

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<v Speaker 4>administration already has a terrible record here. We've heard from veterans'

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<v Speaker 4>families who have lost someone overseas. We didn't get a

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<v Speaker 4>phone call. I was there alone receiving his body back

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<v Speaker 4>into the country. He wasn't honored by anyone, heard single.

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<v Speaker 1>Troop under his presidens.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Meanwhile, those that he does speak to, he claims that

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<v Speaker 4>he lost his son Bo also while.

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<v Speaker 5>He was away in deployment.

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<v Speaker 4>Bo tragically died of cancer, but of course Biden's either

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<v Speaker 4>unaware of that or lying. So that alone is just

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<v Speaker 4>such a fun fact for the Trump campaign to run

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<v Speaker 4>with and just be like this.

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<v Speaker 5>Blokes a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you compare that with JD. Evans, who served

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<v Speaker 2>with distinction in Iraq. So the debate between the two

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<v Speaker 2>potential vps is going to be very interesting to watch

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<v Speaker 2>because JD. Vance won't take it back.

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<v Speaker 3>With yeah, yeah, and Advance is a great debate. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>So that'll be a lot of fun. But just on

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<v Speaker 3>a slightly less serious note, It's been pointed out by

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people on x that he looks like

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<v Speaker 3>weirdly Australian, And someone pointed out today if you take

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<v Speaker 3>a look at this post and this image of him,

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<v Speaker 3>that he looks like the last five prime ministers of

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<v Speaker 3>Australia all morphed into.

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<v Speaker 1>One, and you can kind of see it there.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see a bit of Schomo, you can see

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of turn Bullet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just as all of you, a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>all of them in there. The weirdest thing to know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, but he.

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<v Speaker 2>Does like he looked maybe Scott Morrison, but I can't

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<v Speaker 2>see Julia Gillard there at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, we'll leave that to one.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I will off out of the five.

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<v Speaker 1>He may identify as Julia Gillard.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows, but he just kind of looks like you'd

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<v Speaker 3>expect him to be one of the dads at a

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<v Speaker 3>barbecue or something. And I know that works well in Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm not sure people look for that so much

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<v Speaker 3>in the United States. Sticking in the United States, Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, is the proprietor of X, which used to

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<v Speaker 3>be twittery bought a few years ago, has now launched

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<v Speaker 3>a legal case against a number of former advertisers and

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<v Speaker 3>the Global Alliance for Responsible Media because he is suggesting

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<v Speaker 3>or alleging that they basically got together, And this is

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that came out of a US House of Rips

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<v Speaker 3>judiciary committee finding that they got together and essentially worked

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<v Speaker 3>to boycott and encourage advertisers to boycott X and a

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<v Speaker 3>number of other outlets, including Rumble, which is now joining

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<v Speaker 3>in on this case, to deprive them of income. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 3>so go and spend your advertising dollars with other media

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 3>companies because we don't like X. We don't like the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that Elon Musk has taken a radical View, for instance,

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<v Speaker 3>on free speech, had said, well, we are the public square.

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 3>We should allow all forms of speech to be shared here.

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<v Speaker 3>And now that is of course claimed. And we'll get

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<v Speaker 3>into this again a little further into the show. To

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<v Speaker 3>be dangerous in some way, because how dare you be

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<v Speaker 3>able to find out what's actually going on in the

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<v Speaker 3>world without it being censored. This is what the CEO

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<v Speaker 3>of Twitter or ex as it now is, Linda Yakarino,

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<v Speaker 3>had to say about the case.

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<v Speaker 9>These organizations targeted our company, and you are users. The

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<v Speaker 9>evidence and facts are on our side. They conspire to

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<v Speaker 9>boycott X, which threatens our ability to thrive in the future.

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 9>That puts your global town square, the one place that

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 9>you can express yourself freely and openly, at long term risk.

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 9>People are hurt when the marketplace of ideas is constricted.

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<v Speaker 9>No small group of people should be able to monopolize

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 9>what gets monetized. This group is no match for the

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<v Speaker 9>power of our users, all of you, the very same

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:05.919
<v Speaker 9>users that have driven usage of X to all time highs.

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<v Speaker 3>Muscul City is declaring war on these companies and the

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<v Speaker 3>global lives for responsible media.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got to say, I find the whole thing a.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit odd, and you know, I mean, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>laws in the United States, and the cases they run

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 3>over there are odd quite frequently.

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<v Speaker 1>But surely it is the right.

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<v Speaker 3>Of a private company an advertiser to choose where they

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<v Speaker 3>do or do not spend their money, their advertising money,

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 3>on whatever basis they damn will like.

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Now, Musk and any.

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Other media proprietor or social media proprietor is then well

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 3>within their rights to criticize someone for pulling their advertising

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 3>spend because they've decided that, you know, it's not a

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 3>socially conscious outfit to be spending their money with. And

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 3>Musk himself had previously said I think it was about

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Disney when they were talking about pulling advertising money that

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 3>they should go f themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely that's just.

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.399
<v Speaker 3>The right of a private company to choose where it

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<v Speaker 3>spends its money. Why should that be a cord case.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the problem is we're still trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out what social media is right. And I mean, X

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>is the place where most people are now getting their news.

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 2>And if you want conservative news in particular, or you

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>just want news that's not filtered by the ideology of

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>a particular organization, X is the place to get it.

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>So global companies that want globalism and don't want people

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 2>talking about sovereign borders or any of the things that

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 2>conservatives talk about, particularly Elon Musk lately, will get to

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 2>his comments on what's happening in the UK in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's in your interests to try and shut down

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>any discussion. So it's not so much they're boycotting a

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>particular company I ex but they're really, as was explained

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>by the X CEO, they're trying to shut down any

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 2>and all discussion around conservative what some might call right

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 2>wing thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, I think the suit is more about the fact

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 4>that these got guys got together, and she says earlier

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<v Speaker 4>in that clip illegally conspired to bring down X by

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 4>doing this. So this wasn't like a oh, I'm boycotting

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 4>this brand of chocolate because they use coco from a

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 4>country that still uses slaves to farm it. This was

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<v Speaker 4>a you, you and you were all very powerful companies.

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:29.959
<v Speaker 4>We are getting together to organize ourselves such that we

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<v Speaker 4>are no longer advertising with this platform, and we are

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 4>doing it with an end to see its demise.

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>But why should that be illegal?

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't understand in a free market why that

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 3>should be illegal. So there's a group called Sleeping Giants,

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 3>and at the risk of inflaming them again because we

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 3>haven't heard from them for a while, but they spent

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot of time organizing boycotts against News Corp And

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Sky News and whatever, by getting people to write off

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 3>to advertisers and say you must of advertising with these

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 3>companies because we don't believe in their ethos, and they

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 3>had some success in doing that. There were certain advertisers

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 3>who did pull out, and we should then be able

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 3>to criticize them until the cows come home for doing

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 3>so and say to you, as these are the people

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 3>you shouldn't spend your money with because they have pulled

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 3>their money away from us because they don't like your views,

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 3>they're coming after you. That's essentially what it's about. But surely,

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 3>in a free market, even if a bunch of advertisers

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 3>get together and say we're going to act as a group,

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 3>why should they not be allowed to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like me walking into the boardroom.

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<v Speaker 3>Of an organization of which i'm a member or I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on the board of and saying I don't like the chairman,

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to organize all of my fellow committee

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 3>members board members to ouse the chairman because I don't

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 3>like him. If I can convince all the other board

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 3>members to do that with me, then I'm just doing

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 3>good business, aren't I.

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 5>I do take your point.

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, should there there not be

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<v Speaker 4>protections in place?

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean force them, no, no, because then what.

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking about when it comes to x N Rumble,

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<v Speaker 4>who by the way, has joined this suit because they've

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 4>also had people gang up on them, try to get

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 4>them demonetized, and just what we're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About, you can coached other media organizations that experienced the

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 2>same thing to get on board as well, so this

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>class action could grow because what.

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking about now is at the crux of a

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<v Speaker 4>culture war, and unless conservatives have more money, and looking

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 4>at the state of the world, we most certainly don't,

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 4>and unless conservatives have more influence, which again I don't

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 4>think we do. We've got the likes of Elon Musk's

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 4>absolute legends who are putting billions of their own dollars

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 4>on the line in order to prevail in the face

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 4>of this onslaught that we are seeing of leftist ideology,

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 4>censoring everybody else, shutting down everybody else, even if you're

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 4>in the UK, knocking on your door and telling you

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 4>you're under arrest for something you.

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<v Speaker 5>Post it on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 4>So in this current culture war, I think he is

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<v Speaker 4>bringing a very important case because if left to the

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 4>likes of the corporates.

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 5>How many do we have on our side? And it

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<v Speaker 5>would be only a matter of time.

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 4>Before X ceased to exist and was completely demonetized Rumble,

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 4>which is.

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 5>Where everyone who's been kicked.

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 4>Off YouTube then goes to to make podcasts to talk

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 4>to their followers to push out information much like they

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 4>do on X because it's not censored, it's a free

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 4>speech platform. These guys would cease to exist. That's why

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 4>they're calling it now while they still have money in

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 4>the bank and they're able to fight their case.

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 5>But this is going to be an incredibly.

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<v Speaker 4>Important case because while I take your point regarding the

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 4>free market, and I'm very much a free market girl,

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 4>yay the free market, what we have here is a

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 4>culture war that is simply going to mean that if

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 4>they win in this respect, and it is perfectly legal

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 4>for you to get together with all your corporate mats

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 4>and mates and make my life as a platform or

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 4>as an individual literally impossible. I can't make money anymore.

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna have to go flip Burgers. Then that

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 4>means the eradication of X. That means the eradication of

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 4>rumble off the face of the earth. And people can't

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 4>overestimate their importance the amount of stuff that we learn

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 4>on X, just because everyday citizens are experiencing their lives,

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 4>posting videos, stuff that none of the media is covering

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 4>except for here on Sky News.

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 5>But it is so important, it is so important.

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 4>So if we're just to leave this to the cultural

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 4>are and say, oh well it's free, Margaret, you guys

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 4>can just team up and start ruining every.

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 5>Platform you don't like.

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 4>I mean these companies that we're talking about, CVS Health,

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 4>which is a massive, massive pharmacy chain in the US,

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 4>Mars All your Chocolates, your m and MS.

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 5>Those are all Mars, Allstead and Unilever.

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 4>These are massive companies, and I'm sure there's more in

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 4>this cohort.

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 5>If those guys can.

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 4>Just team up and then do anybody out of business

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 4>that they want to, is that a free market or

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 4>is that just corporate tyranny, stomping on everyone that they

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 4>disagree with.

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 3>In some ways, the free market we've created by making

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 3>those companies so powerful, isn't it.

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>But but I would say, in return.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Boycott them like we do the counter boycott boycott them

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 3>as well. And we saw it actually worked a bit

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 3>with bud Light, Like people started pulling bud Light out

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 3>of them. Yeah.

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, we've actually got a.

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:36.439
<v Speaker 3>Mobilize in a real way conservatives, and choose where we

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 3>spend our dollar as well.

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:39.240
<v Speaker 1>The left is very good at.

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 3>It, and we let the left do it a lot,

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 3>and we're reticent to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should choose where we spend our dollar

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot more wisely too.

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 5>I agree.

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 4>But this is this is going to be an incredibly

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 4>important case. And thank God that the people with the

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 4>big bucks are bringing it because none of us can

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.240
<v Speaker 4>afford to and we desperately need them.

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk is certainly not intimidated. He continues to speak

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 2>outarticularly on what's happening in the UK right now, much

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 2>to the.

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Frustration of the elites.

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 2>It all started when Elon Musk said that what we're

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>seeing with rioting in the UK was inevitable and that

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 2>civil war is probably likely because of unchecked immigration. For that, Kostama,

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister, the Justice Minister, they all attacked Elon

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Musk and said he should pull his head in. But

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 2>he hasn't have look at some of the stuff he's

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 2>been posting. Just recently he posted this image of three

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 2>people convicted of different crimes but got vastly different punishments.

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I think we've got the image ready to show you.

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.879
<v Speaker 2>Here we go. On the left, you've got someone Musk

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 2>says made a racist comment got fifteen weeks jail. In

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 2>the middle someone who sold anti immigration stickers and for

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 2>that got twenty four months in prison. And on the

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 2>far right, someone who repeatedly RPD a twelve year old

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 2>girl and got a two year suspended sentence, doing one

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty hours community service with no prison time.

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Asking what the hell is going on? Help listen to

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 2>a BBC editor who slammed Elon Musk and said, what

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 2>right does this guy have to speak to our prime minister?

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 10>Is extraordinary for the boss of a big US tech

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 10>fone to be publicly confronting the British Prime Minister.

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 5>Like this over Home affairs. Issues.

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.279
<v Speaker 10>You know, it's difficult to imagine Apples, Tim kok or

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 10>met As Mark Zuckerberg doing something similar. And what we've

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 10>seen Musk do is he hasn't directly incited violence. He

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 10>didn't explode like we might see Donald Trump do, but

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 10>he didn't call for calm either, and lots of people

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 10>are saying that because he's so influential that his actions

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 10>are potentially quite dangerous. What he did, as we've just heard,

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 10>is to echo arguments that we've seen from the far right,

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 10>including claims that there's a two tier policing system in

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 10>the UK and that immigrant criminals are treated less harshly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the elites inact terrible policies and then blame

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 2>anybody who notices. You can bit if musks views aligned

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 2>with the BBC, there would have been no complaint at all.

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break. When we come back,

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 2>look what's making news tomorrow, including an Australian Olympian on

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 2>drug chargers that's coming up in a moment. Welcome back.

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go to tomorrow's papers and Liz the

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Adelaide Advertiser's got a good news Olympic story and a

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 2>not so good news Olympics.

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the good news story is the fourteen year old

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 4>that's bringing home gold for skating.

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<v Speaker 5>The headline reads, all I want is a duck. Apparently

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.320
<v Speaker 5>that is what her parents had promised.

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<v Speaker 4>Her if she brought home gold, so she can't wait

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<v Speaker 4>to have a pet duck. But in some far more

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 4>serious news, Ozzie hockey striker has been nabbed in Paris

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<v Speaker 4>for allegedly buying drugs. His name is Tom Craig and

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<v Speaker 4>while many people have never heard of him, they've all

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<v Speaker 4>heard of him now A rest of a cocher barah,

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<v Speaker 4>thanks for trying to make it funny, Tyser. Australian men's

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 4>hockey player Tom Craig has been arrested for allegedly buying

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 4>cocaine on the streets of Paris. The twenty eight year

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<v Speaker 4>old Kookaburra's striker had left a team function on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 4>night and was arrested fifteen minutes later.

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<v Speaker 5>This is such a shame.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of those stories that really takes away from

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<v Speaker 4>all the hype and the awesomeness of the Games and

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 4>how incredibly no country in the world is doing better

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<v Speaker 4>than us when it comes to metals.

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 5>Per capita like we are killing it.

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I think Queensland as a state alone actually beats a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of countries on a per yea the entire countries

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 3>on a per capita basis. And I heard someone the

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<v Speaker 3>other day pointing out that because the Fox Girls, of

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<v Speaker 3>course are from Penrith, that Penrith has three gold meddles

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 3>and that beats a lot of countries as well.

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 5>Are we doing We've seen some.

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 4>Reels on Instagram and other places of.

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 5>People remarking on this and just being like, what are

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 5>they feeding them?

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<v Speaker 3>In a.

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<v Speaker 4>Ridiculous you guys don't belong there on the metal tally

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:58.240
<v Speaker 4>might we fixed?

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<v Speaker 1>Does the job?

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<v Speaker 5>Certainly?

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>This story is that the Kooka Bar has performed well

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<v Speaker 2>below expectations, crashing out in the quarter finals as did

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<v Speaker 2>our women.

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<v Speaker 1>If only he had taken the coke before he competed.

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<v Speaker 2>Allegedly, team he's gone out the hay them.

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 5>You can't say that.

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Look, the Chinese are probably doping, you know what?

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 2>The hell of minutes after he's left the team dinner.

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Allegedly police have seen him doing this deal. But I mean,

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you say people haven't heard of him, but he's quite

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 2>a decorated Olympian. He's got a Commonwealth gold medal, Commonth

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Games medal. I've never got silver from the Tokyo Olympics.

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.479
<v Speaker 2>He's one of the key strikers from the Cooker BoNT

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<v Speaker 2>and now.

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<v Speaker 5>Were remembered as a coke head.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the thing, right, The reality here is

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<v Speaker 3>that he is not I am sure he is not

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<v Speaker 3>the only person who has allegedly gone and bought some

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<v Speaker 3>cocaine during the duration of this Olympics. Right, He's just

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<v Speaker 3>the one that happened to get be caught and arrested

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<v Speaker 3>for doing so.

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<v Speaker 4>And you wonder if it's because as the as the

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<v Speaker 4>article stipulate, it was after leaving a team function, have

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<v Speaker 4>they had a few maybe trying to cheer themselves up

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<v Speaker 4>after that?

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<v Speaker 3>And this is so hard when we talk about we

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<v Speaker 3>took about in the AFL. We've talked extensively about the

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 3>drug problems there for instance, right, and how that was

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 3>covered up almost systemically by the AFL. It is not

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<v Speaker 3>a foreign concept that sports people who you know, out

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<v Speaker 3>having a bit of fun and some of whom may

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<v Speaker 3>earn good money, can afford to buy such drugs as cocaine.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that mister Craig is not the only person

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<v Speaker 3>who could possibly be implicated in the consumption of cocaine.

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 1>During these Olympics.

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<v Speaker 3>He was just the unfortunate one who got nabbed by

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<v Speaker 3>the coppers. And like for him, the real punishment, because

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 3>he's not been charged with anything at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the real punishment is the embarrassment, because he's now

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<v Speaker 1>going to have this over his head for the rest

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>of his career, however long that may be. I suspect people.

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<v Speaker 3>Will forget about it pretty quickly, but it will always

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<v Speaker 3>just sort of sit there as a bit of a

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 3>black mark that, you know, they had a reasonably ordinary

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Olympic campaign and then it got capped off by being

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 3>arrested for allegedly bark hope.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an alleged gram of cocaine and according to

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<v Speaker 2>the report in Tomorrow's Australian, it's as little as a

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:20.879
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifty dollars fine. So if it's happened,

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 2>it's alleged. If it's happened, it's a small indiscretion. As

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<v Speaker 2>you say, the public embarrassment would be far worse than

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<v Speaker 2>any punishment.

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<v Speaker 4>Papers should have done him a solid and just left

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<v Speaker 4>it out of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Happening.

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<v Speaker 3>We know Liz has a sort of Laise Fair approach

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.320
<v Speaker 3>to drugs. Sometimes she always talks about how she supports

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 3>the legalization of cannabis.

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 5>Can wead a two very different not.

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Suggesting that Lizz is a user herself, not a lars

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 3>a fair approach to drugs. Let's go to the Australian Now,

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.280
<v Speaker 3>where it sees onto a far more serious story. Warning

0:41:56.320 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 3>on hashtag me to redo, presumption of innocence must and

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Australia's peak legal body is challenging a movement to reshape

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 3>the administration of rape trials in the wake of me too,

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 3>declaring that the presumption of innocence and the rule of

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 3>law must remain sacricant as the country's Law Reform Commission

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 3>looks to overhaul legal frameworks governing sexual violence. And good

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 3>on them for coming out and saying it, because you

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 3>cannot afford to water down the law and the presumption

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 3>of innocence in any way. And I know there are

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 3>all these stats about how few actual sexual assaults result

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 3>in someone being charged, and then the number of them

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 3>that actually result in a conviction is even lower.

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<v Speaker 1>But the principle is very simple.

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<v Speaker 3>That it is much better to have ten guilty men

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.839
<v Speaker 3>walk free than to have one innocent man locked up.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how the justice system is meant to operate, and

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 3>it is how it should always operate. I understand that

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 3>may be difficult for victims to swallow, or alleged victims

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 3>to swallow, but there is a very good reason that

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 3>the meeting of justice or the meeting of justice is

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 3>not put in the hands of victims because you'd never

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.959
<v Speaker 3>see an end to the punishment and what they would

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 3>like to have done, and that is not justice.

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's right that we're being more caring and concerning

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.319
<v Speaker 2>about people who are alleged victims and trying to look

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 2>after their welfare. They've taken steps in the court to

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 2>make sure that as they give evidence they're not re traumatized.

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 2>All those things are right and proper, But as you say,

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, the integrity of the

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 2>justice system demands that the burden of proof is on

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 2>the prosecutor.

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>It has to be.

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's go to another story on the front of the

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<v Speaker 3>Odds tomorrow. Very interesting this one. Autism detectives link plastic

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 3>chemical in mother's womb to spectrum disorder. This is an

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:52.280
<v Speaker 3>exclusive from Natasha Robinson, their Health editor. Boys with lower

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>levels of a key brain enzyme who are born to

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 3>mothers with higher levels of plastic chemicals in their wombs

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 3>are six times more likely to develop autism by the

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:05.280
<v Speaker 3>time they are a teenager. A world first Australian study

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 3>has found. The study has been going on for a

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 3>decade at the Flory Institute and one of the researchers

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 3>sees here quote BPA, that is the particular chemical can

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:19.760
<v Speaker 3>disrupt hormone controlled male fetal brain development in several ways,

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 3>including silencing this key enzyme and I'm not going to

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 3>pronounce it because i don't want to blug it up

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 3>that controls neuro hormones and is especially important in fetal

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 3>male brain development. One of the other co authors is

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 3>this appears to be part of the autism puzzle. And

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 3>once again when we talk about the fact that we're

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 3>world leading in terms of the Olympics, once again we

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 3>are world leading in terms of our medical research. The

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 3>findings here are very interesting and hopefully can become part

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 3>of the question, the rising question as to why we

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 3>have so many children A with autism and B I'm

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 3>going to say being diagnosed with autism, because I tend

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 3>to think there may be a bit of overdiagnosis going

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 3>on as well.

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>But as a world first bit of research, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge.

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Breakthrough that they are emphasizing the fact. They're not saying

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 2>this is the cause. They're saying it's a.

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Fact links and number factors.

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, this study has been ten years in

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 2>the making, about seventeen hundred children. They're followed over ten

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 2>years to get these results, which will have implications right

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:24.760
<v Speaker 2>around the world.

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 5>I love stories like this. I love stories like this.

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:31.320
<v Speaker 5>Everyone who knows me knows I can talk.

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Underwater about prefas, about forever chemra calls about microplastics, which

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 4>is essentially exactly what these researchers are talking about. It's

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.359
<v Speaker 4>in your food, it's in your water, and to say

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 4>that it's not affecting us as humans is utterly ridiculous.

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 4>So hats off to these researchers. The US estimates that

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 4>it spends over two hundred and fifty billion dollars a

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 4>year on healthcare due to the side effects of the

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 4>amount of microplastics, the amount of pfas people have in

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:04.760
<v Speaker 4>their system.

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 5>We are not.

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 4>Supposed to be consuming these things as humans, and once

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 4>again the government does nothing in terms of cutting down

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 4>on people who are creating these foods as well as

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 4>products that humans are using and ingesting microplastics, ingesting these

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 4>chemicals on a daily basis. Of course, it has these

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 4>kinds of effects and I love it when these links

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 4>are established so people can go, oh, hang on a minute,

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:33.319
<v Speaker 4>maybe we should do something about this.

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, good call.

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break. When we come

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:39.320
<v Speaker 2>back on a totally light note. What happens to birds

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:40.280
<v Speaker 2>caught in shopping centers?

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 5>How do they get out?

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Will show you in a second. I was at Macquari

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<v Speaker 2>shopping center today with my son and as we're walking through,

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 2>we saw a bird flying through the shopping center. You

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>often see that, and I've never really wondered how do

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.479
<v Speaker 2>they get out? But more importantly how do they get sorry,

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 2>how do they get in? But more importantly how do

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:01.320
<v Speaker 2>they get out? Well, there's a mel And wildlife rescuer,

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Nigel Williamson who goes around, whether it's Bunnings or Kmart

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 2>or in this shopping center rescuing birds.

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<v Speaker 5>Have a look. I just found the.

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<v Speaker 11>Other three three sea gulls with the d net set up.

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 11>I've caught one already, and I think we're just about

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 11>to get another one. Come on, mate, walk in. We've

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 11>been trying to get two at the one time. I

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 11>think we just might get that one. Ne They say

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 11>two out of three ain't bad.

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:36.359
<v Speaker 5>Well I think five out of eight ain't bad.

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<v Speaker 11>Hoff you go, fella, come on, off you go, and

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 11>off you go as well. I have a tame one.

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 11>Go on, off you gay sitting on my armluffy gay.

0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 2>See that's why I never buy chips at the food

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:53.840
<v Speaker 2>court in my local shopping center, because there's too many seagulls.

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:55.879
<v Speaker 3>Y we've been hang on, isn't at the answer? Why

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 3>do you need to trap them? Just go and get

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 3>some chips and then slowly leave the seagull to the

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:01.439
<v Speaker 3>front door.

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 5>Work perfectly.

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Come on, what do we need all this trap stuff for?

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Surely it's easier.

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 5>I give Nigel his dues.

0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the guy's doing the bird's a good turn.

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 4>Tell you who's not doing anyone a good turn? A

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 4>rat White franchise. They thought they were doing a very

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 4>good deed here. They started up a tenant of the

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 4>month award. Okay, and to qualify in their own words.

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 5>They say, you must always pay.

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 4>Your rent in time, Your home must be well presented

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 4>and be a pleasure to deal with, ie a pleasure

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 4>to deal with as a tenant, as a human being.

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 4>And so they give out this tenant award. Everyone thinks

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 4>it's a great idea, except that nobody thinks it's a

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:48.399
<v Speaker 4>great idea, and they get absolutely slammed on social media.

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 5>Here's a few of the comments.

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 4>A Tenant of the Month award, What is next a

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<v Speaker 4>leash and a collar? Another one wrote, only a real

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<v Speaker 4>estate would think it's acceptable to do this. It's called degrading.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been called highly patronizing. Nobody appreciated this gesture, what

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<v Speaker 4>so wet for?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a pretty low bar, like pay your rent

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<v Speaker 2>and be a nice person, and for that you get

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<v Speaker 2>an award. What does that say about everyone else who's renting.

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<v Speaker 3>That didn't go I'd be so embarrassed to see my

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<v Speaker 3>face pop up as the that's

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<v Speaker 2>It from us, A good night stick around, though Retepenny

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<v Speaker 2>show is coming right up in I'm just a moment