WEBVTT - The battle for women’s votes

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<v Speaker 1>From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Friday, October eleventh. Prime Minister Anthony Albaniezi has called

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<v Speaker 1>out China's maneuvering in the South China Sea in a

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<v Speaker 1>speech to the Asian Summit. The PM says international waterways

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<v Speaker 1>should remain open. A bombshell revelation from a new episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the Australian's investigative podcast Bromwyn. John Winfield fathered a

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<v Speaker 1>child in nineteen seventy two when he was a teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>Now his long lost daughter has come forward to try

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<v Speaker 1>and help solve the suspected murder of the woman Winfield

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<v Speaker 1>married more than a decade later. John Winfield has always

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<v Speaker 1>denied any involvement in Bromwin's disappearance or suspected murder. Episode

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen of Bromwyn is available now for the Australian subscribers

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<v Speaker 1>us to listen at Bromwin podcast dot com. Abortion was

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<v Speaker 1>not an issue in the Queensland election until suddenly it

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<v Speaker 1>very much was today. How a rogue issue took off

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<v Speaker 1>in the down and dirty campaign that's suddenly taken an

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<v Speaker 1>unexpected twist.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know my position neither of those part of

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<v Speaker 2>our plan.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is Queensland Opposition leader David Chris a fully

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<v Speaker 1>on the campaign trail as he storms through Queensland, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I have been very, very firmly I'm not going.

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<v Speaker 1>To And this is The Australian's reporter, Lydia Lynch, and.

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<v Speaker 3>My position is there will be no change. I'm being

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<v Speaker 3>upfront with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you there will be no change.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you please? That is as definitive as I can be.

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<v Speaker 2>And on either of those issues.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been very upcut Lydia has been on the trail

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris fully visiting farms and factories and burning up

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<v Speaker 1>miles of freeway and every time he steps off the bus, Lydia,

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<v Speaker 1>is there too.

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<v Speaker 3>That others are trained see from the people in your

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<v Speaker 3>own party that are talking about it, mister Chrystal fully so,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a fair question to ask if your

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<v Speaker 3>positioned from twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about abortion, an issue that has done what issues

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<v Speaker 1>do to leaders in election campaigns, that is, it's gone wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Abortion as a policy went from being a nothing burger

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<v Speaker 1>to a very big something burger that no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>he does, Chris Fooley can't get rid of.

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<v Speaker 4>In Queensland.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually a politician can be facing scrutiny and then just

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<v Speaker 3>stuck up to the regions for a couple of days

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<v Speaker 3>to take the heat off. But in an election campaign

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<v Speaker 3>there's an entire contingent of press gallery journalists following them

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<v Speaker 3>around all day, every day, so that scrutiny just is magnified.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Lydia. She's us come from a sugar refinery visit

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris A Foley.

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<v Speaker 3>We went down the road about an hour from Makai

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<v Speaker 3>today to a town called Serena and we did a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a tour of a sugar refinery there and

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<v Speaker 3>we got to watch over chrisa fully taste. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how many different types of rum he tasted, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he was happy.

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<v Speaker 4>He did the press conference before that tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get any room? No?

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<v Speaker 4>I stayed clear. I had stories left to right.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the state of play in Queensland. As in the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of Australia, abortion is basically safe, legal and rare.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty eighteen, the Labor government in Queensland removed abortion

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<v Speaker 1>from the criminal Code.

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<v Speaker 3>Before that, it was a crime to have an abortion

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<v Speaker 3>in Queensland. When the laws passed in twenty eighteen, the

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<v Speaker 3>l ANDP gave its MPs a conscience vote on the bill,

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<v Speaker 3>which means they're allowed to vote how they personally feel,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have to vote on party line, and every

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<v Speaker 3>single LMP MP voted to keep abortion in the criminal

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<v Speaker 3>Code except for three MPs. That was Tim Nichols, Jan

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<v Speaker 3>Stuckey and Steve Minniken. They faced serious styclash from party

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<v Speaker 3>members and also from the Liberal National Party headquarters, which

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<v Speaker 3>threatened all three of their pre selections for the next election.

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<v Speaker 3>So ahead of the last election, I put questions to

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<v Speaker 3>the then leader deb Preclington asking what the plans were

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<v Speaker 3>on abortion.

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<v Speaker 4>She said to me, if.

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<v Speaker 3>They were elected, she would bring about a review to

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<v Speaker 3>look at lowering that gestation limit from twenty two weeks

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe putting in some sort of compulsory counseling for

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<v Speaker 3>women that were seeking an abortion.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't win that election, so this issue kind of

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<v Speaker 4>died off.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything changed this week when video emerged two of David

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<v Speaker 3>Chrisofulli's LMP MPs making comments.

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<v Speaker 4>Of public forums.

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<v Speaker 3>One of those was Tony Perritt, he's a front bed,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a member for Gimp He was asked about abortion

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<v Speaker 3>at a public forum and he said, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 3>always voted against it and I'll continue to do so

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<v Speaker 3>into the future. But really the big quotes that really

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<v Speaker 3>kicked it off was from a long serving backbench at

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<v Speaker 3>John Crowsey. He represents the area of scenic Rim, which

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<v Speaker 3>is just sort of southwest of Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 2>I see some serious issues with the present law and

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<v Speaker 2>would certainly be a part of bringing about like minded

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<v Speaker 2>members to try and deal with those issues.

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<v Speaker 3>That really sent a red flag out to voters that

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<v Speaker 3>it might not be such a decided issue amongst the

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<v Speaker 3>L and P if there's people inside David Chrysofili's party

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<v Speaker 3>room that are signaling their plans to either roll back

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<v Speaker 3>the legislation or at least put in some more restrictions

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<v Speaker 3>around abortion.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of the way he's responding to it, Lydia,

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<v Speaker 1>He just doesn't want to talk about it, does he?

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<v Speaker 3>All Right? I think I've asked him about abortion for

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<v Speaker 3>four or five days in a row. It became again

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<v Speaker 3>a more heightened issue for him when Robbie Cutter, who's

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<v Speaker 3>a crossbencher in Queensland, he committed to introducing legislation straight

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<v Speaker 3>away into the Parliament after the election that would either

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<v Speaker 3>repeal or make it harder to get an abortion in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 4>Essentially.

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<v Speaker 3>Traditionally in the LMP, there's a really long standing practice

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<v Speaker 3>that on matters of life or death, MPs are given

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<v Speaker 3>a conscience vote, so they don't have to vote on

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<v Speaker 3>the party lines.

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<v Speaker 4>They can make up their own mind.

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<v Speaker 3>But David crucifully for four days, has refused to guarantee

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<v Speaker 3>that his MPs will have a conscience vote on this.

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<v Speaker 3>He can say every day it's not part of my plan,

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<v Speaker 3>and it might not be part of his plan, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's part of Robbie Cutter's plan to introduce this legislation.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are quite a number of MPs in the

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<v Speaker 3>L and P party room and also candidates that are

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<v Speaker 3>running and winnable seats who have very staunch pro life views.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think on an issue like abortion, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a very emotive issue for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of MPs, if there's a bill before

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<v Speaker 3>the House and that's going to put some restrictions around it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're a very pro life person, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>see how they would not vote to support that legislation.

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<v Speaker 1>So Labor has very successfully set a trap or created

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<v Speaker 1>a wedge where Chris and Foley is now every day

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<v Speaker 1>having to talk about this the thing that he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Least right, he's completely wedged on this issue, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>why he's not saying whether or not he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>give his MPs a conscience vote, because if he does

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<v Speaker 3>give them a conscience vote, he'll be very likely renegging

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<v Speaker 3>on his promise that there'll be no changes. But if

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't give them a conscience vote, they'll be complete

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<v Speaker 3>uproar in the LMP, because, like I said, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>really long standing practice in the party that they can

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<v Speaker 3>vote freely on matters of life and death. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the way that it will have the most cut through

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<v Speaker 3>is with social media, and Labour's really ramming this on

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<v Speaker 3>their social media advertising.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up the Labor candidate's own car crash moment. In

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<v Speaker 1>every election campaign, there's a lot of serious policy being

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<v Speaker 1>discussed and then there's just silly moments of joy that

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<v Speaker 1>must make your life with living as a reporter on

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign trail, Lidia, like when the premier forgot the

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<v Speaker 1>name of his own Labor candidate, tell me what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yes, I was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We were out following Steven Miles as he was campaigning

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<v Speaker 3>in one of the cada's Australia Party seats of Morani.

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<v Speaker 3>The premier spent two days in that seat and a

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<v Speaker 3>few of US journalists noticed that we hadn't seen Labour's

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<v Speaker 3>key ended it for that seat, despite two visits in

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<v Speaker 3>two days. So one of the other reporters asked him,

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<v Speaker 3>you know where is your candidate for Marannie and the

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<v Speaker 3>Premier's answer he said, oh, I'm not sure where they are.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll find out. I'll find out where the how I

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<v Speaker 4>let you know. And as soon as he said day,

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<v Speaker 4>I got a bit suspicious.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, Oh, he doesn't know this candidate's name.

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<v Speaker 4>Candidate, I don't have that detail in front of me.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know the name of the cadidate that's running

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<v Speaker 3>in the seat that you're in today.

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<v Speaker 4>Susan, Yeah, of course it's Susan. Yeah. I was with

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<v Speaker 4>it the other night.

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<v Speaker 3>Luckily for the Premier, his deputy Cameron Dick was standing

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<v Speaker 3>behind him and could offer up Susan Teddy's name to

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<v Speaker 3>the Premier. But I was a bad gaff and really

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<v Speaker 3>you think the premier would be being briefed by the

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<v Speaker 3>gaggle of advisors that are following him around the state.

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<v Speaker 1>How did he recover from that and what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it tells us about how he's enjoying the campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>The Premier does seem to be pretty upbeat throughout the

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<v Speaker 3>campaign for somebody that's on track to lose according to

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<v Speaker 3>every opinion poll that's been published for a year.

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<v Speaker 4>Though he didn't seem too happy with the media.

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<v Speaker 3>The next day, he didn't go as far as apologizing

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<v Speaker 3>to Susan Tedder for forgetting her name, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, I'm going to forget things from time to

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<v Speaker 3>time and if you all want to make that your

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<v Speaker 3>the lead of your bulletins, that's up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>He's taken a bit of a hospital pass, has any

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<v Speaker 1>of this premiere He took over from Anastasia Palache, a

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<v Speaker 1>long serving and very dominant character in Queensland politics, and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's the one left to steer the ship away

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<v Speaker 1>from the rocks, if you can.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the feedback that we're already hearing, or I

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<v Speaker 3>guess the line that's already been fed to some journalists

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<v Speaker 3>from people inside the Labor government is that Anasja Palache

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<v Speaker 3>should have left sooner to give Stephen Miles time to

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<v Speaker 3>make his mark. But you know, Queensland is a weird

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<v Speaker 3>stage and although all signs are pointing to a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>strong Labor defeat, things can change here. As Scott Morrison

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<v Speaker 3>discovered at the twenty twenty two election, Queensland was a

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<v Speaker 3>state that delivered him that miracle victory. So it'll really

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<v Speaker 3>depend on how the next two weeks of campaigning goes

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<v Speaker 3>for both leaders.

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Biddy Lynch is the Australian's Queensland political reporter. Queenslanders go

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<v Speaker 1>to the polls on October twenty six and we'll be

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