1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed business news you can use today. 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: US President Donald Trump addresses the nation but fails to 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: provide an end date for the war in the Middle East, 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: sending equity markets lower. The federal government announces new rules 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: for gambling advertising, and Apple turns fifty plus. Prime Minister 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Anthony Ibneasy outline support packages for industry, and can SpaceX 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: make Elon Musk the world's first trillionaire. It is Friday, 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: the third of April twenty twenty six. O'm Michael Thompson 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: and good morning, Sean Aylmer. 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, Michael, Sean. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: It is a shorter show this morning given the Good 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: Friday public holiday across the country. Still a bit of 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: news to get through though. The main story this morning. 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: US President Donald Trump has warned that the US will 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: hit Iran extremely hard over the next two to three weeks, 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: but has not provided a timeline for the end of 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: the war. It was a nationally televised address yesterday. I 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: watched it and it was twenty minutes that probably could 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: have been condensed into about five. To be honest, the 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: President said that the war was nearing completion, then went 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: on to say that he was committed to bombing Iran 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: back to the Stone Ages where they belong. Later he 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: said the US was getting very close to finishing the job. 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: It was a lot of this of the bravado and 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: the rhetoric that we have come to expect from the President, 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: without a huge amount of detail. 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: Yes, earlier in the day he'd talked about pulling out 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: of NATO as well, though he didn't mention that in 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: his address. I think that was an interesting omission. Generally, 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: financial markets weren't impressed with the nineteen minutes speech. The 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: price of oil rose afterwards, equity markets fell. Trump said 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: little about the economic consequence of the war. Now, the 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: average gas price in the US has pushed beyond four 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: dollars a gallon, which in the US is a very 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 2: very significant figure. It's the highest in quite a few years. 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: Back home, Prime Minister Anthony Alberezi delivered a rebuke of 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: the ongoing war in the Middle East, a rebuke of 38 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: Donald Trump really. Questioning what the president hoped to achieve, 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: he said it wasn't clear what the endpoint was. Speaking 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: at the National Press Club in Canberra, Albanisi said the 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: longer the war went on, the more significant the impact 42 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: on the global economy. However, he then maintained that the 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: Australia US alliance remains strong. He restated his support for 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: the orchestral That. 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: Was a bit of good news for motorists though, as 46 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: Sean drivers around Australia will pay five point seven cents 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: elitter less for petrol after Queensland joined Victoria in ending 48 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: its opposition to a deal to handback a GST windfall 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: caused by the spike in fuel prices. 50 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: Yes, so it takes the tital relief for petrol prices 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: to about thirty two cents a leader. So they of 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: the Feds came in a twenty six point three cents 53 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: five point seven cents from the States. That's that thirty 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: two cents. Many service stations already passing that on, which 55 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: is good news. But the upshot really, you know, there's 56 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: no end in sight to this war unfortunately. 57 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: No. 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: No. 59 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: And you mentioned that that financial markets weren't particularly impressed 60 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: by Donald Trump's speech. The S and PA S X 61 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: two hundred this is a very good illustration, was higher 62 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: ahead of the speech and then tumbled to finish well 63 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: down more than one percent. 64 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: Yes, it was almost off one and a half percent 65 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: from its peak ahead of the speech till its close. 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: That's a sign that investors fear the potential for higher 67 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: interest rates, higher oil prices, a slate and economic growth. 68 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: Consumer stocks, consumer staple stocks like Cole's, Woolies, utilities, telcos, 69 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: they were the best performers yesterday. Tech stocks again got 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: sold off. We had the rally the previous day, but 71 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: you know, marktd On very problematic at the moment. 72 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: It was really curious the address yesterday because it reminded 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: me a lot of Anthony Albanezy's address the prenight that 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: it just felt as though just a lot of not much. Essentially. 75 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: In both cases, we had the Prime Minister on I 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: was that Wednesday night and then the US President yesterday, 77 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: both addressing the nation, both not saying a huge amount, 78 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: and really I went into these hoping for something concrete, 79 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: some information that you could really take out of it 80 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: and hopefully have a bit of optimism and hope coming 81 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: out of it. But unfortunately neither really delivered. 82 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: Ye got nothing, all right, a bit of a bit 83 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: of a I was gonna say, it's not the best 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: way to start, considering as the start of the long weekend. 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: Sean and spirits should be kind of rising. We'll be 86 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: back in a moment with the rest of the day's 87 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: business news. Sean Prime Minister Anthony Albaneasy yesterday outlined gambling 88 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: advertising reforms, including celebrities and sports players being banned from 89 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: appearing in gambling advertising and odd style promotions, and limits 90 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: on the number of ads on radio and TV. TV 91 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: stations would be limited to broadcasting three gambling advertisements an 92 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: hour that's between six am and eight thirty pm, while 93 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: advertising on radio would be banned during school drop off 94 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: and pickup times. 95 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: Advertising on social media will be limited to accounts where 96 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: the user is verified as being aged over eighteen, and 97 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: all users will have the option to opt out of 98 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: seeing gambling ads. As well as celebrities and sports players 99 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: being banned from appearing in gambling ads, promotions will be 100 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: banned in sports venues and on playing jerseys. The late 101 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: labor MP Peter Murphy led a parliamentary inquiry into gambling advertising. 102 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: The new rules implement some of her thirty three recommendations, 103 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: but certainly not all. In fact, that inquiry ultimately said 104 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 2: or recommended a complete advertising ban, though the government hasn't 105 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: gone that far. 106 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: Okay, the federal government will provide more support for critical industries, 107 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: including oil refining, with Prime Minister Anthony Albernesi saying the 108 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: free market approach of past decades has left Australia vulnerable 109 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: to shocks such as the current oil crisis. The changes 110 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: are likely to be part of the May twelfth federal budget, 111 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: which Albanzi says will be reformist. 112 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I wonder whether it will. The government will bring 113 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: forward six point two billion dollars in concessional capital to 114 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: support local businesses. It includes a billion dollars in an 115 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: economic resilience program, about five billion dollars for the Net 116 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: Zero Fund. Basically that's a fund to support manufacturing investment 117 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: and energy efficiency. There's also concessional finance under the Forestry 118 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: Growth Fund. Speaking at the National Press Club, the PM 119 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: said there will be new short term spending to address 120 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: the cost of living crisis, which has been exacerbated by 121 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: the Middle East War. He also took a shot at Nation, 122 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: saying he does not want Australia to return to the 123 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: heavily protected industries and economy of the past century. Notwithstanding 124 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: industry policy is actually throwing money at specific industries. 125 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: Sounded like you're almost questioning whether the budget will indeed 126 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: be reformist. Sean, you're so jaded. Come on, have a 127 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: bit of faith here that maybe something will be done, 128 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't it okay? Turning to international news now and SpaceX, 129 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Elon Musk's rocket and satellite maker, has filed confidentially an 130 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: initial public offerings, setting the stage for what could be 131 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: one of the largest offerings ever. The company is committed 132 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: to debuting in June, and Muskers are aiming to raise 133 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: fifty billion US dollars about seventy two billion Aussie up 134 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: to seventy five billion US one hundred and eight billion Australian. 135 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: That's according to The New York Times. 136 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: SpaceX values itself at more than one trillion US dollars 137 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: and would be one of the most valuable companies to 138 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: reach the share market after Saudi Aramco's twenty nineteen debut 139 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: value the energy giant at about one point seven trillion. 140 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: SpaceX offering would be a generational money making event for 141 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: Wall Street, the company employees, and of course Elon Musk, 142 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: who is already one of the world's richest men. If 143 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: this goes ahead, he is closing in on becoming the 144 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: world's first trillionaire. SpaceX, which Musk founded in two thousand 145 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: and two with a goal of sending people to Mars, 146 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: has grown into one of the world's leading space companies. 147 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: From the beginning, Musk said, SpaceX's ultimate mission is to 148 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: make humans a multi planetary species, ensuring that life would 149 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: thrive if something happened on Earth. Nothing like having big plans. 150 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am high, right, that's hard to do what 151 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: he's doing now. Tech giant Apple turned fifty years old 152 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: this week, starting in a garage and progressing through personal 153 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: computers and I phones to iPods AirPods, the second the 154 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: world's second most valuable company, worth three point seven trillion 155 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: US dollars, Apple now has one hundred and sixty six 156 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: thousand full time employees around the world. There are two 157 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: point five billion active devices, which is just a number 158 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: that's hard to get your head around. Thinking about Apple 159 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: is it is as famous for its design capability as 160 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: it is its technology. And famously it was the company 161 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: that most blurred the line, you would say, between work 162 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: and play. 163 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: So it was co founded by Steve Jobs, the marketing wizard, 164 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: Steve Wozniak, the engineering wizard, and a guy called Ron Wayne. 165 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 2: He was sort of the back office guy. He sold 166 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: out for eight hundred bucks after about two weeks, so 167 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: I had ten percent of it sold for eight hundred 168 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: bucks after two weeks. Wasniak built the first personal computer 169 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: while working for Hillo Packard. He tried to sell that 170 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 2: to Hilett Packard. They were an interesting so he went 171 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: into business with Steve Jobs. Apple I had certainly had 172 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: its ups and downs in the nine nineties. It was 173 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: days away from bankruptcy. Then remember Steve Job's return to 174 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: the company. He left, He had a big fight with 175 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: the board and some management in the mid eighties, came 176 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: back about ten years later, and suddenly Apple flew again 177 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: when it survived and thrived. Jobs himself tragically died of 178 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: pancreatic cancer in twenty eleven. Steve wasn't act is still 179 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: around the place. In fact, I had I had a 180 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: it's probably twelve years ago now. I think I had 181 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: dinner with Steve Rosnik, which was about eight of us, 182 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: and I sat next to him and it was one 183 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: of the best experiences of my life. 184 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: That is really cool. What was it was? 185 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: He a nice guy, very nice guy. He was a 186 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: charity event and he quirky, quirky, definitely, he would experience 187 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: and he had little sort of tricks that obviously he 188 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: was well practiced with an audience. He's not the small 189 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: talk sort of guy Steve Wozniak, but he had worked 190 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: out how to do it by doing tricks and like 191 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: little mind games. And it was a fantastic, fantastic dinner. 192 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: Oh, that is fantas That is great. That's like once 193 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: in a lifetime kind of thing. Is it time to 194 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: be up there as one of the people that you 195 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: just love to meet, if you're interested in business, if 196 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: you're an Apple user, anyone you just love to meet 197 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: someone like that. That's awesome. Now, Suan up next is 198 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: Fear and Greed Q and a something a little bit 199 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: different today. The news this week that Brent Smart, who 200 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: was the chief marketing officer at Telstra, is stepping down 201 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: from that job. He's been there for four years and 202 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: during that time he has had success after success, won 203 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: a stack of awards and really positioned Telstra well as 204 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: one of the most trusted brands in the country, one 205 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: of the most trusted telcos internationally as well. And you 206 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: spoke with him two years ago and it was a 207 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: great conversation about how you take a brand like Telstra 208 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: that has got such a strong legacy and really try 209 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: and transform it to be a future facing brand. And 210 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: so this is a look back on that conversation from 211 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, which actually three years ago. 212 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: Now I'm stuck in a time. 213 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: Okay, it's coming up next in the Fear and Greed 214 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: playlist on your podcast platform or at Fearangreed dot com 215 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: dot au. 216 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: Thanks Sean, Thanks Michael. 217 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: It's Friday, the third of April twenty twenty six. Make 218 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: sure you're following the podcast and join us online on 219 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: LinkedIn and Instagram. I'm Michael Thompson. That was Fear and Greed. 220 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: Have a great day.