WEBVTT - #2049 The Fertility Crisis - David Gillespie 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.840 Oh, Tiffany and Cook, David, Brian Kevin, Patrick Gillespie, Craig 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.080 Anthew Harper. It's the project, that's you, it's us. What 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:09.959 have you been up to today? Cook? Have you been 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.680 talking to people? Have you been therapizing yourself or anyone else? 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:14.920 Have you been punching shit? 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:17.200 I have been. 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.759 I've trained a couple of clients, made them punch them shit. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.280 I have had a bit of a chat to people. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.920 I've had a bit of therapy myself. That's always a joy. 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.280 I've lifted heavy things and here I am. And I 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:31.480 even had a nap today. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.120 What a great little nana nap. How's doctor Bill going? 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.720 Are you? Are you making any progress? Are you still 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:43.600 like whereabouts on the operational functional scale? Are you like 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.000 your ten being like no issues, one being all the issues? 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.240 What number are you probably? 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.720 I've rocket it up to a good three and a 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.040 three point five? I reckon, So I'm doing it. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.640 You're approaching, You're you're driving into Normalsville. You're just sitting 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.480 on the almost normal highway, just cruising into town. 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:03.240 Close. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:04.720 Yeah. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.679 Well, it's good things psychologies or bullshit, isn't it David? 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:10.280 It is, yes, it is a good thing. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:16.240 Yeah, yeah, expensive bullshit but now nonetheless bullshit. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:22.440 Spoken authorized by David Gillespie. Now you wrote something, well, firstly, 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.880 how are you before I talk about the funny thing? 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.520 Any news on planet you anything you need to tell 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:33.600 any like, any breaking news on planet. 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.240 No, I don't think so. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.240 There's no sound effects coming forward. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:41.200 Sound effects. 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.319 We're saving up for a new bit of what do 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:50.000 you call this stuff? Foam on the edge of my filter? Yeah, yeah, 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.320 we're saving up for one of those. I think Melissa 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.919 has to sell a kidney, but I'll get one anytime, anytime. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.640 So you wrote a funny article which I started reading 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:05.720 and I did. I wasn't really expecting for it to 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:11.000 be a tongue in cheek kind of affair with you 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:17.360 talking about the the impending inclusion of ozen pic or 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.960 the like in the drinking water. Was it meant to 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:21.240 be Australia or America that? 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:26.040 But but the piece was, Yeah, the piece was was America. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:30.240 But I was, I guess kind of trying to make 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.880 a point about mass medication. Is you read that piece 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.960 and you see the way the politicians sell it. You know, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.400 we put a zen pick into the drinking spy will 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:46.680 solve the obesity crisis. We'll solve the affordability crisis because. 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.320 You won't be able to afford to buy EU. You 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:49.160 won't buy. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.160 As much food, so it will cost you less. And 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.880 we'll even you know, solve the airline seat crisis. You know, 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.520 you'll everyone will be able to fit into their airline seats. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.240 Everyone basically flying first clas So all good all around. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.799 What's the downside? You have to buy a bit of 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:10.240 a zimpic and put it into the drinking supply, and 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:12.880 I guess lose the will to live because it does 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:17.800 have an an hedonic effect on people. But the point 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.960 I guess I was trying to make is often that's 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:24.720 how mass medication appeals. You could make exactly the same 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:29.760 arguments for fluoridation. There's a hard way to fix the 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.520 fact that we're wrecking everybody's teeth, which is we have 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.080 to stop them consuming vast amounts of sugar. The only 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.800 thing that destroys teeth is sugar. We know that that's 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:43.160 not controversial science, And instead of doing something about that, 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.320 our solution is to put a chemical in the water 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.120 supply that does a little bit about it but doesn't 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.040 fix the problem. And may have its own problems itself. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.880 And that's kind of what I was getting at with 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.840 this article. And this isn't the first time that really 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.960 odd things have been seriously suggested as being added to 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.720 the water supply. There was a serious attempt to add 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:09.880 statins into the water supply in Japan, the thinking being yeah, 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:15.160 the thinking being, well, you know, let's prevent everybody's heart attack, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:16.080 you know, put. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:17.000 It into the water supply. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:22.120 And this is the way the thinking goes, is what's 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.840 the harm? And we've talked about a few things where 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:26.640 there've been mass medication. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.680 For very very good reasons, you know, you know. 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.159 Such as preventing birth defects and so on, but without 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.920 any real regard to the potential side effects of it, 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.040 and without any real regard to is this really a 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.839 good idea to give this to everybody in the population. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.240 And because we're in. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.880 A situation where that is the mindset for our public 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.920 health people, which is the first thing they reach for, 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:58.200 is the equivalent of fluoridation of the water supply. Me 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.520 writing a piece something putting a zepic in the water 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.320 supply to some people will sound like a suggestion. 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:09.560 Yes, yes, Well, when I was reading that. I mean, 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.880 it's so ludicrous and ridiculous. It actually confused me because 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.160 I never expected you and maybe you've done it. Well, 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.120 I'm sure you've done it before, but I hadn't read it. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.159 I didn't. I never expected you to write satire. I 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.320 never expected and I'm reading it and I'm like, it's 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.920 really well written, and it's written as though it's real. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.400 So there was this kind of this inner conflict and 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:39.600 I'm like, this cannot be possibly, like sure, like I 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.640 knew it couldn't be real. And I'm like, surely Gillespo 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.880 hasn't got this so wrong that he's actually writing this, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.479 because this is literally impossible that this would happen for 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.200 a myriad of reasons. And then of course it's not. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.799 It's bullshit. It's tongue in cheek and you say essentially 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.839 that at the end. But I'm amused that people actually 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.839 well one that I saw anyway, a lady like she 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.240 clearly didn't read it, and she's like, I hope this 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.440 is not true, and I'm like, well, just keep reading. 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:11.440 It's not true, but it's it is. It is indicative 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:16.400 or it is kind of insightful of you know what, 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:22.280 what can happen. I think RFK is anti fluoride, isn't 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.280 he like? I think he's a big hat. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.640 I think that's yeah. I think that's one of the things. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:31.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got a whole bloody shopping list 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:32.680 of things he wants to get rid of. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.280 Hell, that's starting with the podole, of course, which apparently 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:42.839 causes autism. No, it does turn you into a psychopath, 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:44.440 but it doesn't cause autism. 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.840 That is funny. That is I was about to say 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:51.280 it doesn't it make you a doesn't what is it? Paracetamol? 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.880 Doesn't it make you a temporary sociopath for a few 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:59.320 hours or more? Lightheled down the sociopath scale. Yeah, tell 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.920 me the mechanism. Tell me the mechanism again, I forget 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:03.160 you explained to us. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:04.520 So it's. 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.400 We've known for a long time that obviously it's a painkiller, 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.920 but we don't. No one's ever really been certain about 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:16.440 the mechanism for that, just they know that it works. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.200 And so there have been some studies done, you know, 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.240 those sort of university psychology studies where they try all 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.600 sorts of things, you know, just to keep themselves entertained. 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.240 And one of the ones they did was one where 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:34.680 they tested people's levels of empathy both when they were 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:41.600 on paracetamol and when they weren't, and much to everyone's surprise, 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:46.160 there were significant and measurable differences. Now, there is a 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:50.000 biochemical reason for it, in that it impairs a certain 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.680 circuit in the brain where essentially empathy lives in humans 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:59.640 and in psychopaths, those neurons, which are called one economone neurons, 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:06.160 very very less active, they have a lower density, and 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:10.240 so they have no empathy. But what happens when you 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:14.120 take paracetamol is that those the function of those neurons 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:18.440 get suppressed by the paracetamol and essentially you turn yourself 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.720 into a psychopath for the four or so hours that 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:21.720 the thing works. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.880 It's bloody hilarious. It's like that. I mean, if you 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.920 wanted to not feel like if you had to go 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.400 into a situation where empathy was going to be a 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.600 limitation for you temporarily, like in terms of having to 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.480 do something, and that was going to so. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.640 Being an executioner for example. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.920 Yeah, I mean, if you had to chop someone's head off, 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.559 take a couple of panadol, bibity bobbedy boot as long 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.760 as you do it within that four hour window, you good. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:53.040 Yeah, it'll certainly help. There actually have been some serious 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.920 recommendations around people having to do things which require harming 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:05.240 others and being given parasitmol for exactly a tempathy lowering effect. So, 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:06.599 for example, surgeons and so on. 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:11.079 I was talking to Tiff I was explained to her, 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.840 I heard this story about in the First World War 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:19.120 when they were sending this was an American podcast I 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.720 was listening to, but allegedly they were sending all these 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.360 young you know, farm boys and you know city boys. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.720 I mean, this is what is at nineteen fourteen, the 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:34.800 First World War pre television, pre movies essentially pre all 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:39.679 that kind of that type of propaganda where all of 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.120 these kids were just getting shipped off, here's a gun, 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.600 here's seven minutes of training, go shoot that bloke in 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:50.840 the head. And there were like allegedly thousands of them 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.600 that didn't want to do it, like they didn't want 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.079 to kill people. So they're shooting above their head or 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:59.320 beside them. And one of the things that they did 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:04.360 in an attempt to alleviate this lack of drive to 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.280 kill people was they started creating all these kind of 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:12.719 essentially these propaganda movies elevating the status of or promoting 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:17.400 the alpha maleness and desirability of soldiers and war and 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.480 all of this kind of stuff in an attempt to 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:26.200 get these young guys more emotionally and psychologically prepared to 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.120 go and kill the enemy. Like I never thought of that. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.160 Well, the other thing they did was the other thing 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.240 they did was give them masses of cocaine. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:40.800 So so it was a real problem. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:45.280 Around twenty percent of the population are so empathetic that 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.000 they would struggle to kill another human no matter what 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.000 the circumstances, which is a bit of a problem in 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:54.800 the military, and so it's always I mean in the 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.960 US military to this day works very very hard against that, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:03.440 using combat simulation, video games and so on to try 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:09.520 and lower people's empathy about killing others. But yeah, it 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.680 was a big problem in World War One, and one 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.559 of the things they did to combat it, and also 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:20.080 to combat the other thing which was PTSD as a 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:26.560 result of killing people or seeing people be killed around you, 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:32.200 was to give them large amounts of cocaine. So cocaine 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:37.319 was dispensed liberally to the troops. Most of them were 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.880 a significant proportion of them became serious cocaine addicts, and 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.560 when they came back to Australia, they brought that addiction 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:48.320 with them. Luckily it wasn't legal then, I guess, and 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.880 so you could just love off to your local pharmacy 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.079 and pick up some cocaine over the counter and no 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:59.400 trouble whatsoever. And so the addictive state actually spread pretty 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.319 significant amongst Australian population, and at one stage during the 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:08.360 nineteen twenties, Australia was the highest per capita cocaine consumer 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:12.920 in the world as a direct result of it being 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:13.760 freely available. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.400 Well not free, but you know, it wasn't against the law. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.960 You could readily available to see, yeah. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:18.800 And. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:24.640 Us introducing it en mass into the population through the 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:26.160 troops that were coming back from the war. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.520 TIF can you find out when it became a legal 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.760 cocaine use became illegal in Australia. I'd like to know that. 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.440 That must have I can tell you a little bit 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.640 about it. So in the nineteen thirties, the government was 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:40.360 starting to get a bit worried about the fact that 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.280 everyone was a cocaine addict and felt that it might 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:47.840 be impairing productivity, and so they did bring in regulations 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:53.000 requiring pharmacists to only issue cocaine with a script. Pharmacists 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:57.360 initially just completely ignored that and the governments did nothing 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:01.080 to enforce it. By the time we got through the 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.840 Great Depression, he was starting to be enforced pretty regularly, 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.360 and you pretty much needed a script to get cocaine. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.720 M wow, did you find anything tip like an absolute 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:17.959 illegal by date? You can get back to it. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:22.040 I have taught it to ramble on a lot before 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.240 giving straight answer. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.280 There's a speak just we'll get onto another top. 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.120 To give you a straight answer to you. Wow. Wow. 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.520 There's a show on and I don't promote a Netflix 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.520 really ever, but there's a show on Netflix at the 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.520 moment called In Waves and More. It might be in 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.559 War and Waves the other way around, but it's basically 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.480 about all these Tier one operators that come back from 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.800 More completely fucked up. It's and all the trauma, and 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:53.160 there's a new drug that they're using. I'm only like 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.079 a third of the way through so it so far, 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.120 it's fascinating, So I can't say the whole thing, but 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.800 I mean enjoying it. But there's a drug called iber 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.200 Game that they're using now have you heard of that? 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.439 David? Oh? What is it? Is it a synthetic something? 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:14.240 Rather, it's a h it's not an opioid, it's a 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:15.360 what do they call it? 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:16.400 Oh? 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:18.640 God, everyone, We just had a little melt down there. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.040 We were trying to come up with a word, and 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.680 David Gillespie, who knows all the words, couldn't fucking come 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.680 up with the words. So I blame him. Too late 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.760 in the day. For me, it's too late and I'm 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:33.240 sixty two, So fucking keep your expectations low. Diff who's 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.760 literally got one job and that's just define words, couldn't 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.200 fucking find it with her fat little fingers on her 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.880 keyboard over there? Could She couldn't. She couldn't do the 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.200 one thing she got to do, one thing in half 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:52.160 an hour, find a word? All right? Enough about getting 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.440 high and avoiding shooting people in war and drugs that 0:14:56.520 --> 0:15:00.920 make you psychopathic. So you wrote an article today about 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:09.080 microplastics and the relationship with those on sperm count and fertility. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.560 Do tell, Do tell? What's happening there? 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:18.360 Interesting study came out about a month ago. Two hundred 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:25.640 men in China having microplastics measured. This is so microplastics 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:29.240 are really just particles of PBC or polystyrene. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.200 Mostly it's where most of it. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:36.880 Measuring how much of it was present in their sperm, 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:43.800 And the reason for that was that though first of 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.200 all wanting to know whether there was any they found 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:51.239 rather disturbingly that fifty six percent of them had significant 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:55.400 abortion or measurable amounts of microplastics in their sperm. But 0:15:55.840 --> 0:16:00.400 more disturbingly, they found that that wasn't just interesting fact, 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:05.000 it was that there was a direct association between the 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:11.920 amount of microplastic in sperm and your fertility. So now 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:17.760 we've talked about fertility a bit over the time, because 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.640 we really do have a world wide problem with fertility. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.320 It's male fertility has been dropping at one percent a 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:30.600 year since nineteen thirty eight, so I don't know how 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.320 many years that. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:36.560 That's a lot. Eighty seven years, Yeah, so eighty seven 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:37.240 percent drop. 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.640 Except it's worse than that because since two thousand it's 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.120 been two and a half percent drop per year, so 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:44.280 it's accelerating. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:45.960 It's accelerating. 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.360 So we're in a position now where, you know, finding 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:56.880 a fertile mail is starting to get almost impossible, and 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.840 these guys, you know, there's a lot of people running 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.400 aroun waving their hands and saying I've got the answer. 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.320 I understand why this is so, but very few people 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.399 have been able to nail anything down. Definitive sort of 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.480 people a sort of saying, oh, modern life, plastics, radiation, 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.320 you name it. Everyone's got a reason. These guys were 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.800 trying to nail down one of the excuses that's often given, 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:23.119 which is well, that is given frequently the microplastics. And 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.840 what they found is yes, there is indeed an association 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.520 between micropa microplastics, and in particular, if you are in 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:33.280 the habit of regularly, and these guys were using them 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:40.040 every day, using plastic cut aalry, then you're likely to 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.840 be most at risk. I guess it's got to do 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.480 with it. It's in direct contact with your food. Bits 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.879 of plastic, tiny microscopic bits of plastic are being broken 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:53.880 off the surfaces of that food, of those utensils every day. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:58.800 So using plastic cut rorery had the biggest effect, but 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.160 there was a big effect in general from heating food 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:06.879 in plastics to so on. The reason I thought this 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.320 was study was interesting was not so much because of 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:14.000 the newsworthy worthiness of that, and there have been news 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.280 stories over the last few days about this, don't use 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:20.240 a plastic knife and fork, It'll make you infertile, which 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.560 I guess is where you could go from this study. 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.960 The more interesting thing is what they did after they 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.080 found that, which is that they went to look at 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:34.439 what was the mechanism, So why would microplastics affect your 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:39.920 ability to conceive? And what they found is that what 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:45.679 it was doing was triggering, triggering a sort of a 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:49.840 panic button, if you like, in in sperm cells, which 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:55.800 is something triggered by oxidative stress. So when when cells 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:59.440 are under oxidative stress, they usually are triggered to die, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.800 particularly where they're important cells carrying DNA that are being 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.639 used to create the next generation. Then you don't want 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:11.320 that DMA being damaged by something and then going on 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.480 to make you know, a baby that may not be 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.960 getting the correct DNA set, and you can have all 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.240 sorts of introgen generational disease being caused then, so lots 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.400 of things that are often blamed on those sorts of things, 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.480 you know, such as autism and down syndrome and so on. 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:34.120 So the body protects itself by self destructing the sperm 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:39.159 that it detects have error and usually pretty good at it, 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.960 and the ones that misses are also protected by a 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.960 secondary and similar scene in the female which results in 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:50.440 a miscarriage. So that's all well and good, and that's 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.280 how the microplastics are doing it, and none of that 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:57.000 is a particular surprise, except that exactly the same pathway 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.880 is triggered, and we have known has been triggered for 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:06.520 a long time by smoking, for example, So smoking we 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.879 know does the same thing, and we also know that 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.560 the cure for that is to tell a man who's 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:17.760 thinking about having a baby to stop smoking if he 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:22.040 does three months beforehand, because it takes three months to 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:26.280 clear out the sperm, if you like, have them refreshed 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.359 with a brand new lot that aren't affected by whatever 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:35.280 it is you've been doing, consuming microplastics or smoking. And 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.680 the reason for that is that smoking introduces a whole 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.080 lot of aldehydes into the system. 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.920 And we've talked about aldehydes before that. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:47.480 Cause DNA disruption and destroy and damage the DNA in 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.800 sperm cells in particular, which are not very well protected 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.600 in the body because they make so many of them. 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.200 So the body's going down the big pen route rather 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.639 than the long block pen, which is it's better to 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.200 have a thousand bad ones that you can throw out 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.720 if they don't work, then have one really really good one. 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:13.000 So so that's why that advice has always been given 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.600 about smoking. At the start, when they were giving that advice, 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.720 it was just from observing that ten men tended to 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.400 have more luck getting women pregnant if they weren't smokers. 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.240 And then later on the science caught up and we 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:29.679 figured out the aldehyde triggering that autooxidation pathway, which is 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:31.760 exactly the same thing that they're now picking up with 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:35.760 the microplastics. So smoking microplastics very very bad if you 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:39.439 want to have babies. The other one that's recently been 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.920 picked up is alcohol. Of course, we've always known heavy 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:47.479 drinking is bad for conception in males. Now we know 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:52.199 why once again, big big producer of aldehydes which have 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.840 that DNA destructive thing. Once again, cure is the same, 0:21:57.040 --> 0:22:00.400 stop drinking ninety days before you intend to and eve 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:04.440 and everything should be fine. And then there's the really 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.159 really big and nasty one that we've talked about before, 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.800 but which is really really nasty because it's less easy 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:19.159 to fix and that is seed oils, so the canola, sunflower, soybean, 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:23.679 almond oil, pinut oil, all those sorts of things, the 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:29.160 seed oils that are now entrenched in our food supply 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:33.080 because they're cheap and theoretically healthy. That's what all the 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:35.960 health authorities tell us. But so they've replaced all the 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.119 animal fats and so on, and our foods fly. Everything's 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:42.320 full of the stuff that produces a particularly nasty aldehyde 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:47.920 called for HNE, and four HNE is just as destructive 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:52.120 as the alcohol, the ones from alcohol and smoking and microplastics. 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:54.040 The problem with. 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:58.240 It is that, unlike those other three, we don't hang 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.720 on to microplastics in our our bodies. 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:02.159 We don't hang on too cigaret. 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.360 We don't stash a few diurries away for later when 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:05.359 we're having a cigarette. 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.720 It's a one and done kind of thing. And the 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:09.680 same goes for alcohol. 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.280 We spend a considerable amount of time and energy getting 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:14.720 the alcohol out of our system because it's a poison. 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:16.760 So we don't hang onto that either. 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:20.199 The fats, however, because they are pretty handy for building 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:24.120 baby brains, get hung onto and we hang onto them 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.560 for as long as we possibly can. Because in our 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:31.040 natural environment, they're pretty rare. In fact, we hang onto 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:35.640 them were on average about six hundred days, so we 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.439 store them for about six hundred days, so two years. 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:43.520 So the advice is the same if you want to conceive, 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.359 you know, don't do this thing, except that they don't 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.440 do this thing is eat anything containing seed oils, which 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:54.760 is just about about anything, and don't do it for 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:58.880 two years. And when you know that, is it any 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:03.560 wonder that male fertility rate is plummeting. It's not just 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.119 because we use it because we're smoking, drinking. Smoking and 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:11.240 drinking have actually improved significantly, but we probably are using 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.640 more micro more plastic stuff. But nothing that would explain 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.359