WEBVTT - Secrets Unfiltered – Neil Answers It All 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:07.281 Approche production. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.280 Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am Neil the 0:00:13.361 --> 0:00:19.921 Muscle comments. Welcome back to the Secrets of the Underworld. 0:00:20.281 --> 0:00:22.961 In this episode, I'm gonna be sitting down with one 0:00:23.001 --> 0:00:27.361 of my producers having a Q and A from fans 0:00:27.441 --> 0:00:31.321 and himself, which I am nervous as fuck. But anyway, 0:00:31.401 --> 0:00:32.921 let's get on the way. 0:00:33.721 --> 0:00:36.601 Let's go, mate. It sounds a bit more enthusiastic about. 0:00:36.601 --> 0:00:40.081 I don't like being under the fucking under the spotlight, 0:00:40.161 --> 0:00:41.401 and I don't like getting interviewed. 0:00:41.441 --> 0:00:43.961 So I've worked as a as a like a doormant 0:00:43.961 --> 0:00:47.161 at the cross during like hectic times you've been shot 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:47.720 at before. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:49.161 I don't talk. 0:00:48.601 --> 0:00:53.201 I've well, you can't. You can't knock me, mate, It's 0:00:53.241 --> 0:00:55.761 all on camera, so don't be too mean about it. 0:00:55.761 --> 0:00:58.241 This is fine. We've got a whole bunch of different questions. 0:00:58.801 --> 0:01:01.560 Stuff to do with the questions, that's the problem. But 0:01:01.601 --> 0:01:03.681 that's the beauty of it. Made to ask you anything, 0:01:03.761 --> 0:01:05.521 and that's what we're going with. We'll start off nice 0:01:05.561 --> 0:01:07.961 and easy in hew some some more personal questions. 0:01:08.001 --> 0:01:10.681 Oh they're not easy. 0:01:12.161 --> 0:01:14.361 Let me ask you this. This is an interesting question 0:01:14.441 --> 0:01:16.321 because we know what you've done for a living. But 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.601 what did you what did you want to be when 0:01:18.681 --> 0:01:20.241 you grew up when you were younger, what did you 0:01:20.321 --> 0:01:20.720 dream of. 0:01:20.681 --> 0:01:22.681 Actually being a soccer player footballer? 0:01:22.881 --> 0:01:25.601 Really? And what happened there. 0:01:27.881 --> 0:01:30.360 When I when I with my mates got pissed fucking 0:01:30.681 --> 0:01:33.080 mcgirl's fucking nightclubs and they all went down. 0:01:35.321 --> 0:01:36.360 Did you get anywhere with it? 0:01:36.481 --> 0:01:38.721 Or I did in the UK? Yeah? I must have 0:01:38.761 --> 0:01:40.601 met in the UK? Did you know? I was on 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:43.200 the Pools books. Then I went to Bristol City. Then 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.921 I went to Shrewsbury, which is not big clubs, and 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.561 you know it's I came over to it here for 0:01:49.601 --> 0:01:51.881 a new challenge. And I didn't realize in Australia was 0:01:51.881 --> 0:01:55.761 ten years behind every fucking cunt okay, And it was 0:01:55.881 --> 0:01:58.081 because when I got there, you know, I was down 0:01:58.081 --> 0:02:00.241 in Wollongong and the first thing they said to me, 0:02:00.321 --> 0:02:02.161 have you got a job? And I said, why do 0:02:02.201 --> 0:02:03.841 we need a job for? And then they said you 0:02:03.841 --> 0:02:06.441 need the job to fucking help? 0:02:08.401 --> 0:02:10.121 Was being a dorm in your first job? When your 0:02:10.121 --> 0:02:10.721 candles right? 0:02:11.521 --> 0:02:12.561 No? No? 0:02:13.441 --> 0:02:14.881 What was some of the previous jobs? Yet? 0:02:15.721 --> 0:02:17.761 I worked in a fruit market and I worked at 0:02:17.761 --> 0:02:20.840 the I also worked at Flemington's fruit market too. 0:02:21.401 --> 0:02:23.680 Really yeah, doing like doing the. 0:02:23.601 --> 0:02:26.280 Lifting heavy spuds and onions and all that ship. 0:02:26.321 --> 0:02:29.081 They didn't have you. You weren't going you know, twenty. 0:02:28.881 --> 0:02:31.761 Five nah fuck no, oh no, not with this accent, 0:02:32.401 --> 0:02:35.081 No fucking way. But I actually enjoyed that driving the 0:02:35.121 --> 0:02:36.240 forklts and that was good. 0:02:36.321 --> 0:02:39.241 Yeah. Right, but you're you're a big unit. You're a 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:39.601 big guy. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:40.841 I'll take that as a compliment. 0:02:40.881 --> 0:02:43.921 You're lifting, is that where it started? Like you're bodybuilding? 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.881 Like, no, I've always even when I was playing soccer, 0:02:47.921 --> 0:02:49.561 I always tried to, you know, go the way to 0:02:49.641 --> 0:02:51.680 do the weights and lift heavy. Like I remember when 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.561 I was in the markets, I lifted three bags of 0:02:54.601 --> 0:02:57.240 spuds on my shoulders, which is the spuds with fifty 0:02:57.321 --> 0:03:00.001 kilo bags, so the undred and fifty kilos on my shoulders. 0:03:00.201 --> 0:03:04.960 Wow, this question is I love this question because now 0:03:05.201 --> 0:03:08.521 talking about you know, your physic, how much you lift? 0:03:10.001 --> 0:03:13.400 Why is everyone fucking that's a typical fucking male, fucking 0:03:13.401 --> 0:03:18.160 thing to say. I don't know, Like I've benched two 0:03:18.201 --> 0:03:21.281 twenty two twenty in my prime two twenty and that 0:03:21.321 --> 0:03:22.761 was only fucking five years ago. 0:03:23.041 --> 0:03:25.201 Yeah right, so you passed your prime now. 0:03:25.041 --> 0:03:27.120 Now, I'm not past my fucking prime. It's just when 0:03:27.121 --> 0:03:29.520 I was fucking more into it and like I was 0:03:29.561 --> 0:03:31.960 trying to compete. So I'm not past my fucking prime. 0:03:32.881 --> 0:03:37.041 Two twenty twenty twenty and I've done six six twenty 0:03:37.121 --> 0:03:38.481 on leg press. 0:03:38.521 --> 0:03:40.961 Wow, keeping this nice? This is I'm going to keep 0:03:40.961 --> 0:03:43.841 it nice and that's all right. Do you have any pets? 0:03:45.041 --> 0:03:49.961 Fuck? Yeah, I have. I have two dogs, British bulldogs, 0:03:50.361 --> 0:03:51.201 two cats. 0:03:51.681 --> 0:03:53.641 What's your preference? Are you a cat man or a 0:03:53.721 --> 0:03:54.121 dog man? 0:03:54.161 --> 0:03:58.001 You know what, I'm a dog man, but the cats 0:03:58.281 --> 0:04:01.440 make me relax. Yeah, It's it's funny how the cat 0:04:01.441 --> 0:04:03.241 can make me relax because I look at it and 0:04:03.241 --> 0:04:06.241 it's like a big fucking tiger. But my dogs, and 0:04:06.281 --> 0:04:08.961 my dogs like the loyalist, fucking I love the way 0:04:09.521 --> 0:04:11.281 the loyal to me and the girl for walks with me. 0:04:11.321 --> 0:04:13.321 And yeah, so I'm a dog man, but I love 0:04:13.361 --> 0:04:15.961 my cat. They make me, as I said, relaxed one tomorrow, 0:04:16.081 --> 0:04:16.640 I'm stressed. 0:04:16.841 --> 0:04:21.281 There's something something kind of cute about you know, more 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.521 like you just pating little kittens on your cout. Yeah. 0:04:26.361 --> 0:04:27.801 I always want pussies on my cou. 0:04:32.281 --> 0:04:34.001 You know, you sound like a sweetheart just for a 0:04:34.081 --> 0:04:39.761 split second. For those that don't know, I really stir 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.041 you a lot producing this podcast. You give me a 0:04:42.041 --> 0:04:43.761 hard time, I do give you a hard time, so 0:04:43.841 --> 0:04:45.041 that that's not going to change. 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.121 This especially does my reels every week. 0:04:47.281 --> 0:04:49.440 Yeah, I'm the one that does reels every week and 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.121 then deals with your complaining all the time. Let's look 0:04:53.121 --> 0:04:55.921 at let's get into your life as a as a bodyguard. 0:04:55.961 --> 0:04:58.760 I know that in other episodes we've spoken about this before. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.961 What was your first day like on the doors when 0:05:02.961 --> 0:05:05.640 you got to the infamous level of you working the 0:05:05.681 --> 0:05:06.681 cross and working with John? 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.161 Like, so, what was like working for John on the 0:05:09.201 --> 0:05:12.121 doors the first time? My first time working for John 0:05:12.161 --> 0:05:14.201 on the doors was I must admit it was. It 0:05:14.281 --> 0:05:16.641 was nerve wracking because I knew whose door it was. 0:05:17.121 --> 0:05:19.960 I was nervous as fuck in case I made a mistake. 0:05:20.641 --> 0:05:23.361 And yet I've been doing it prior to this, probably 0:05:23.641 --> 0:05:26.681 how many years been seven years prior to be working 0:05:26.681 --> 0:05:28.200 on his doors, and I felt like it was my 0:05:28.201 --> 0:05:30.801 first time on the doors. I just didn't want to 0:05:30.801 --> 0:05:33.161 make a mistake and I wanted to show that I 0:05:33.201 --> 0:05:35.401 was worthy to be on his doors. And as I said, 0:05:35.521 --> 0:05:37.561 when I first found seeing Tongue and Sam and I 0:05:37.561 --> 0:05:40.400 said low to him, I wanted this job, That's what 0:05:40.481 --> 0:05:42.321 I wanted. I remember shaking his hand and saying, I 0:05:42.361 --> 0:05:45.080 want your fucking job, And that's that was my aim. 0:05:45.161 --> 0:05:46.760 I didn't. I never want to just be a dormant. 0:05:46.801 --> 0:05:48.961 I never wanted die. I wanted to be more than 0:05:48.961 --> 0:05:52.361 what just the dormant. What was the more than a dormant? 0:05:52.401 --> 0:05:52.841 You wanted to do that? 0:05:52.921 --> 0:05:54.400 I wanted to be a body guy. If I was 0:05:54.401 --> 0:05:56.520 going to do security, it was always a bodyguard, not 0:05:56.561 --> 0:05:58.761 to like John and it was I never thought of that. 0:05:58.841 --> 0:06:00.481 It was just that if I'm going to do security, 0:06:00.601 --> 0:06:02.721 it's got to be for a purpose. And that was 0:06:02.761 --> 0:06:04.201 the purpose, to be a bodygud. 0:06:04.841 --> 0:06:08.241 So you spent a lot of time work the doors 0:06:08.281 --> 0:06:11.440 in King's Cross and looking after all kinds of people 0:06:11.481 --> 0:06:14.361 that would come into the place. For a person like 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.121 me who gets denied all the time for what she is, 0:06:16.121 --> 0:06:21.081 I'm wearing what actually happens in the VIP room and 0:06:21.281 --> 0:06:23.241 what is some of the craziest things you've seen happen 0:06:23.281 --> 0:06:23.521 in there? 0:06:25.161 --> 0:06:28.640 What of my what's the craziest thing? Listen, It depends 0:06:28.641 --> 0:06:32.401 whose VIP room it is like ritually, you know what 0:06:32.801 --> 0:06:35.401 it does. It depends whose VIP. If you're if you're somebody, 0:06:35.521 --> 0:06:37.801 you'll get away with it. If you're nobody and you've 0:06:37.841 --> 0:06:40.401 just fucking hide it, then you're just a normal person. 0:06:40.601 --> 0:06:43.801 I've seen people have sex in the VIP rooms openly 0:06:43.841 --> 0:06:47.241 have it, you know. I've seen fucking drugs all of 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:52.041 the tables, and there's no hide in it. It's it 0:06:52.161 --> 0:06:55.641 just depends whose it is, whose VIP is. There's probably 0:06:56.201 --> 0:06:58.281 I've seen a lot of sex, a lot of sex, 0:06:58.320 --> 0:06:59.001 a lot of sex. 0:06:59.161 --> 0:07:00.161 Have you ever a partagon? 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.561 I have not such a part in it, the VIP sex. 0:07:06.721 --> 0:07:08.521 And I didn't watch. I just see and I went, well, 0:07:08.601 --> 0:07:10.601 ship and then let's let's make sure no one's looking 0:07:10.601 --> 0:07:11.041 at that one. 0:07:11.081 --> 0:07:11.681 He didn't watch. 0:07:12.001 --> 0:07:15.081 No, definitely didn't watch, especially with the people I knew 0:07:15.081 --> 0:07:15.321 it was. 0:07:15.321 --> 0:07:19.241 It was who's the who is like, who is the 0:07:19.281 --> 0:07:22.281 biggest name you've seen getting up to that kind of 0:07:22.281 --> 0:07:27.441 mischief in the VIP room? Fuck plot? 0:07:31.001 --> 0:07:35.361 Okay, probably the biggest person. I'll go a little bit 0:07:35.401 --> 0:07:38.041 down because he's not the biggest, but he's his father's 0:07:38.081 --> 0:07:43.641 big would be what's his name that his father owns Virgin. 0:07:44.921 --> 0:07:45.401 Ransom. 0:07:45.601 --> 0:07:49.761 Yes, his son, his son was having sex in the 0:07:49.841 --> 0:07:54.001 VIP room and so and and King's Cross. 0:07:54.241 --> 0:07:57.121 Yeah, yeah, and you just sat and watched. 0:07:57.441 --> 0:07:59.321 Well in the day, I was looking after him that night. 0:07:59.401 --> 0:08:02.801 And so when something like that happens and you're looking 0:08:02.841 --> 0:08:04.361 after someone, do you have to stay there? 0:08:04.841 --> 0:08:08.281 Yeah? But you know what you can if either turned 0:08:08.281 --> 0:08:10.121 the blind guy as long as no one else sees it, 0:08:10.881 --> 0:08:13.721 and as long as a girl is like five of it, 0:08:13.801 --> 0:08:15.881 and she was because she was that was his missus. 0:08:16.161 --> 0:08:17.561 And they just got a bit too much on the 0:08:17.641 --> 0:08:19.801 drugs and that's it. But then they went to finish 0:08:19.801 --> 0:08:20.721 it off downstairs and the. 0:08:20.641 --> 0:08:23.321 Toilet, and you had to allow that as well. 0:08:23.361 --> 0:08:24.521 Well. I had to walk with him to make sure 0:08:24.601 --> 0:08:25.801 the one got in the fucker disabled. 0:08:27.241 --> 0:08:31.561 So yeah, I'm a knock back a person in a wheelchair, 0:08:31.601 --> 0:08:36.481 because that's quite a job. How did you start working 0:08:36.521 --> 0:08:39.601 with more high profile people? What was the gateway to 0:08:39.641 --> 0:08:40.241 that was? 0:08:40.321 --> 0:08:43.201 That was was probably my look that probably got me 0:08:43.241 --> 0:08:45.921 into a lot of jobs. My luck, my posture and 0:08:47.001 --> 0:08:50.761 probably be me in too professional I am. I'm I'm 0:08:50.961 --> 0:08:54.281 very professional at my job. I tried, you know, if 0:08:54.481 --> 0:08:57.041 my standards tie whatever, job I'm doing in that kind 0:08:57.081 --> 0:08:59.721 of industry, and that's always been but it'd be mostly 0:08:59.721 --> 0:09:03.001 my posture it guess me, and you're just standing tall, 0:09:03.081 --> 0:09:05.041 standing tall, and the staunch they. 0:09:05.121 --> 0:09:09.081 Go kids, work on your prospects, stand up. 0:09:10.281 --> 0:09:10.641 Okay. 0:09:11.481 --> 0:09:15.001 Uh. Sticking with like nightclub stuff. You mentioned drug use 0:09:15.041 --> 0:09:20.281 in the VIP room. What's the most amount of gear 0:09:21.081 --> 0:09:23.921 you've ever seen in this been in the same. 0:09:23.801 --> 0:09:28.361 Room, Oh, because the most master gear I've seen. Well, 0:09:28.481 --> 0:09:31.241 now this is testing, because it's just gonna get me interrot. 0:09:33.081 --> 0:09:35.641 Allegedly for. 0:09:37.161 --> 0:09:40.681 See this this two incidence here. Okay, there's there's been 0:09:41.001 --> 0:09:43.281 like a lot of parties I've been to in the 0:09:43.321 --> 0:09:46.921 hotel rooms where I've seen like a lot of fucking 0:09:46.961 --> 0:09:50.401 cocaine on a table and it's filled the whole fucking 0:09:50.441 --> 0:09:52.881 table and then we've made a massive line from it. 0:09:53.521 --> 0:09:56.721 But then again, I've also been in a room where 0:09:56.721 --> 0:10:01.241 I've probably seen on a on a dining table probably 0:10:01.281 --> 0:10:04.521 maybe one hundred thousand. 0:10:04.241 --> 0:10:07.721 Pills one hundred thousand, yeah wow. 0:10:07.521 --> 0:10:09.841 And they're putting them into bags. 0:10:09.241 --> 0:10:13.321 So a room with some people that probably shouldn't get 0:10:13.321 --> 0:10:16.201 caught with Yeah wow, Hey, I hour of a thousand 0:10:16.281 --> 0:10:19.441 pills is crazy, Like did you see how these kind 0:10:19.441 --> 0:10:20.121 of came about? 0:10:20.921 --> 0:10:24.281 Yeah, there was a there was a time when I 0:10:24.321 --> 0:10:26.281 went with a mate and he said, I've got to 0:10:26.281 --> 0:10:28.081 go to seven eleven and I said what for? And 0:10:28.081 --> 0:10:29.321 he says, I've just got to get some loaves of 0:10:29.321 --> 0:10:30.721 bread and I've got to drop some off to my 0:10:30.921 --> 0:10:33.481 to my mates because you know they've for lunch and 0:10:33.481 --> 0:10:35.161 all like that. So that quickly had to go for 0:10:35.161 --> 0:10:37.441 a run in the car. I said, all right, I 0:10:37.481 --> 0:10:38.961 fucking know, I'm thinking, why is this so for an 0:10:39.001 --> 0:10:40.801 agent to go for a fucking life of this fucking 0:10:40.801 --> 0:10:41.241 bread man? 0:10:41.401 --> 0:10:43.561 What time is this you're talking You're talking. 0:10:43.321 --> 0:10:45.521 About nine o'clock at night, and I'm thinking, what the fuck? 0:10:45.881 --> 0:10:47.641 So we were driving in the car and back then 0:10:47.681 --> 0:10:49.441 you know, you got you're in a fucking old commodore 0:10:49.441 --> 0:10:51.921 and you're fucking driving around s s and then fucking 0:10:51.921 --> 0:10:53.081 all of a sudden he stops in the middle of 0:10:53.081 --> 0:10:54.161 the road and I go, are you doing it? And 0:10:54.161 --> 0:10:56.521 he goes, wait, they're coming to they're picking up my loaf. 0:10:56.561 --> 0:10:58.241 And now was what what are you talking about? And 0:10:58.281 --> 0:11:00.321 this car would stop. Why is winning down? He put 0:11:00.321 --> 0:11:02.361 his winner down? Look for bed, go over the over 0:11:02.361 --> 0:11:04.201 to him and go, what the fuck you do? What 0:11:04.241 --> 0:11:06.801 the fuck are you seriously, You're just going to seven 0:11:06.801 --> 0:11:07.521 to eleven himself. 0:11:07.561 --> 0:11:10.961 This is like a drive by. Yeah, breadeck change, bread exchange. 0:11:11.001 --> 0:11:13.281 And then all of a sudden, like when we get back, 0:11:13.361 --> 0:11:15.281 he goes what the fuck was all that about? And 0:11:15.281 --> 0:11:17.801 he just goes bro and then he opens up the 0:11:17.841 --> 0:11:20.121 bread and he just goes see and he got it's 0:11:20.281 --> 0:11:22.041 all cut. The bread was all cut in the middle, 0:11:22.401 --> 0:11:24.081 and there's all the fucking drugs stuck in the middle 0:11:24.081 --> 0:11:26.761 of the bread, the loaf of bread. So fucking what's 0:11:26.761 --> 0:11:29.441 it called fucking wonder wall whatever it's called? Fucking I 0:11:29.521 --> 0:11:34.281 was gonna say, what fucking whole meal is fucking get 0:11:34.321 --> 0:11:36.161 spread around? Or would you want multi grain or do 0:11:36.201 --> 0:11:39.721 you want fucking white? Like what what the fuckro you 0:11:39.801 --> 0:11:41.041 know what I mean? But it was just that's how 0:11:41.081 --> 0:11:42.321 they used to do it back in the day. 0:11:42.641 --> 0:11:43.921 Just bread runs, bread runs. 0:11:43.921 --> 0:11:45.201 But I didn't know I was going to drop off, 0:11:45.241 --> 0:11:49.041 that's the thing. Well, I just thought I was just 0:11:49.081 --> 0:11:51.841 going for fucking like a legit, going to pick up bread, 0:11:52.321 --> 0:11:53.881 you know what I mean. And then he tells me 0:11:53.921 --> 0:11:55.361 when he gets home and here like he oms up 0:11:55.361 --> 0:11:56.801 the bread and it's got it. It is. It was 0:11:56.841 --> 0:11:58.201 just like a fucking you know when you get a 0:11:58.241 --> 0:12:00.161 sudge on the and the sausage in the middle and 0:12:00.201 --> 0:12:01.881 then you just see it. It's like, what the fuck? 0:12:05.241 --> 0:12:07.401 Okay? And what's the most amount of cash you've said? 0:12:08.321 --> 0:12:09.721 I've seen a lot of cash because I used to 0:12:09.721 --> 0:12:10.441 do a lot of collecting. 0:12:11.281 --> 0:12:13.041 I've seen a lot of a lot of collecting. 0:12:13.441 --> 0:12:15.441 Yeah, what's the most amount you've had to collect? 0:12:16.601 --> 0:12:20.561 Uh, what I've succeeded with it? Or of or about 0:12:20.601 --> 0:12:23.961 to go and get give me that you're probably looking about. 0:12:24.121 --> 0:12:27.001 I want to collect, but maybe six k that's it. 0:12:27.041 --> 0:12:31.121 But then the most I have in my hands legitly 0:12:31.601 --> 0:12:37.961 legit Umm, you're probably maybe talking maybe two hundred k, 0:12:38.561 --> 0:12:42.561 two hundred k in nuts? Yeah, have is that? 0:12:43.801 --> 0:12:45.761 Did you feel it? You've covered that much cash? 0:12:45.801 --> 0:12:47.361 And there I was. I wasn't feeling. I was just 0:12:47.361 --> 0:12:48.881 looking at it saying, funk, I'm going to get away 0:12:48.921 --> 0:12:49.121 with this. 0:12:51.241 --> 0:12:53.001 How can I do a sneaky on? 0:12:55.841 --> 0:12:59.441 And have you ever No, I don't know that's a professionalism. 0:12:59.721 --> 0:13:02.601 Have you you speaking about the amount of a lot 0:13:02.641 --> 0:13:03.521 of drugs you've seen. 0:13:03.641 --> 0:13:04.601 I've seen a lot of drugs. 0:13:04.641 --> 0:13:06.681 Have you ever partagon in drugs? 0:13:06.801 --> 0:13:09.721 Yeah? Oh yeah, I've always been. I'm ashamed to say 0:13:09.721 --> 0:13:12.121 that I've partaken. I've had my fun with drugs. 0:13:12.401 --> 0:13:13.841 Right, had your phone? 0:13:14.001 --> 0:13:14.761 Yeah? Have my phone? 0:13:14.881 --> 0:13:15.121 Yeah? 0:13:15.201 --> 0:13:15.441 Right? 0:13:16.201 --> 0:13:18.561 What about when it came to working out? Did you 0:13:18.561 --> 0:13:19.961 ever get on the gear? Yeah? 0:13:20.041 --> 0:13:22.801 Yeah, I'm not ashamed to say, yeah, I've abused the gear. 0:13:23.081 --> 0:13:26.201 I've abused the gear more than I abused party drugs. 0:13:26.641 --> 0:13:28.561 You know. I used to abuse it so much that 0:13:28.641 --> 0:13:30.241 you know, I could put five meals in one day, 0:13:30.281 --> 0:13:33.641 and then five and probably maybe four hours later, ten 0:13:33.681 --> 0:13:36.561 meals in one day because I thought I was shrinking, 0:13:36.921 --> 0:13:38.841 you know what I mean, for my shirts were loose 0:13:38.881 --> 0:13:40.361 on me. Then I think I was shrinking. So I 0:13:40.481 --> 0:13:42.641 go to the fucking my mate put front of five 0:13:42.681 --> 0:13:46.081 meals in me. Then I take probably in a carry 0:13:47.281 --> 0:13:52.001 the Dinabol pills, which you know were oral pills. When 0:13:52.001 --> 0:13:54.361 I was on the doors, I probably could carry about 0:13:54.361 --> 0:13:56.321 maybe thirty to forty pills in my pocket and taken 0:13:56.321 --> 0:13:59.561 my night in case I shrunk. It was that bad? 0:14:00.241 --> 0:14:02.441 And what made you like because obviously you don't seem 0:14:02.481 --> 0:14:04.241 to be that bad now. 0:14:04.361 --> 0:14:07.361 No, I've contained it, I think, what more helped me 0:14:07.481 --> 0:14:10.321 was when I started to compete, and then I started 0:14:10.361 --> 0:14:13.041 talking to people you know about the gear and they 0:14:13.081 --> 0:14:15.321 knew it because they were bodybuilders, and how to you know, 0:14:15.681 --> 0:14:17.681 do it properly? But before that, you know, I was 0:14:17.761 --> 0:14:19.241 I was banging it in my chest, banging it in 0:14:19.321 --> 0:14:22.081 my arms everywhere, just to make things grow here. 0:14:22.801 --> 0:14:25.361 What's agerally, feel like you're your ideal size now? No? 0:14:25.681 --> 0:14:27.561 Never fucking way you want to do the girl small? 0:14:27.601 --> 0:14:29.081 Yeah, because I feel so. I'm small at the moment. 0:14:29.121 --> 0:14:30.881 This is small for me now. 0:14:30.921 --> 0:14:32.481 I know why when I say you're looking a bit thin, 0:14:32.521 --> 0:14:38.641 you get to King's Cross has a pretty notorious reputation, 0:14:39.241 --> 0:14:42.001 especially back in the day. What's your view of the 0:14:42.001 --> 0:14:42.561 Cross now? 0:14:42.721 --> 0:14:48.641 Shit? Absolutely, shit, terrible. Like as I said to people, 0:14:48.761 --> 0:14:51.041 you go on the Cross now, it's not about the 0:14:51.041 --> 0:14:52.921 Coca cola sound, It's about the Wolff sound on the 0:14:52.961 --> 0:14:56.841 left hand side. It's it's all family orientated. Now there's 0:14:56.841 --> 0:14:59.601 people pushing prems. You wouldn't see that, you know. I mean, 0:14:59.601 --> 0:15:03.841 it's terrible. No nightlife anymore. It's all derelict. It doesn't 0:15:03.841 --> 0:15:06.841 matter if you've got a few night clubs still left there. 0:15:07.441 --> 0:15:08.761 The place is gone. To shit. 0:15:09.001 --> 0:15:12.961 It's terrible, and do you think like obviously lockout laws 0:15:12.961 --> 0:15:15.441 were a big, massive part of that, but you were 0:15:15.481 --> 0:15:16.841 kind of there as that era. 0:15:17.201 --> 0:15:19.321 I got out in two thousand and and just on 0:15:19.361 --> 0:15:20.721 twenty forty I got it. 0:15:20.681 --> 0:15:23.601 So you were there when lockolence on the cross was 0:15:23.881 --> 0:15:25.881 mass closing an issuhuge that. 0:15:25.921 --> 0:15:27.321 But I don't think that was should have been the 0:15:27.321 --> 0:15:29.161 main issue for the cross, because there was a violence 0:15:29.201 --> 0:15:31.921 all over Sydney. You know, the George Street ivy had 0:15:31.921 --> 0:15:34.561 the same thing, the same deal, Circular Key had the 0:15:34.561 --> 0:15:36.961 same deal. You go down to Wollongong and they sayd 0:15:37.001 --> 0:15:40.681 the same deal. But the Cross was made as a 0:15:40.761 --> 0:15:43.561 point because of the cross, and they closed it down 0:15:43.561 --> 0:15:46.241 because they always think it's biking instead of starting the tuble. 0:15:46.321 --> 0:15:48.721 It was never bikings, it was it was just okay, 0:15:48.721 --> 0:15:51.201 there was a few instances that shouldn't have happened, but 0:15:51.281 --> 0:15:53.281 the end of the day, instance happened all over Sydney, 0:15:53.281 --> 0:15:55.121 all over for Queensland, you know what I mean. So 0:15:55.121 --> 0:15:56.721 it shouldn't be just one area, but I know it 0:15:56.761 --> 0:16:00.201 was generated everywhere. But that's an iconic place, King's Cross 0:16:00.241 --> 0:16:03.281 where everyone you you come over from overseas and that's 0:16:03.281 --> 0:16:04.641 what you're f this and you want to see King's 0:16:04.641 --> 0:16:07.121 Cross because the coke sign. You know, back in the day, 0:16:07.161 --> 0:16:09.161 they came to see the trainneys, they came to see 0:16:09.201 --> 0:16:11.641 the fucking ship clubs. And now it's just gone. 0:16:13.081 --> 0:16:13.641 Do you miss it? 0:16:14.041 --> 0:16:16.321 Do I miss King Truss? Yeah? Yeah, But I'd never 0:16:16.361 --> 0:16:19.081 go back now because it's not an error to go back. 0:16:19.121 --> 0:16:22.081 It's just it's the young generation of ruined it. 0:16:24.241 --> 0:16:25.961 You say, like other people have ruined it. And it 0:16:26.041 --> 0:16:28.281 wasn't just bikes. And we'll get into the bike stuff 0:16:28.321 --> 0:16:30.881 a bit later. Who are the worst people to say 0:16:30.921 --> 0:16:34.761 lined up to come into a club? I think the 0:16:34.801 --> 0:16:36.641 category of people that are kind of coming. 0:16:39.321 --> 0:16:49.881 For Paramata gonn this fuck fucking hell. 0:16:50.241 --> 0:16:55.481 Anyone who wore tns there you go. I mean, that's 0:16:55.601 --> 0:16:59.721 the fucking mullets, the fucking rats tails. Then you know 0:16:59.921 --> 0:17:03.121 you are, you're walking in with for your Paramta, but 0:17:03.161 --> 0:17:05.721 you're not what I mean, fuck you. 0:17:05.761 --> 0:17:09.961 Know they were like I asked me this, then, is 0:17:10.001 --> 0:17:12.201 there someone in the tarns from Paramount in your line? 0:17:12.360 --> 0:17:15.880 Are they worse? What's worse that person that you just 0:17:15.961 --> 0:17:23.440 described or seven wines deep blonde woman. 0:17:24.961 --> 0:17:26.280 The end? 0:17:26.321 --> 0:17:28.521 Still I would have thought some of the ladies would 0:17:28.521 --> 0:17:29.561 have been really difficult to do with. 0:17:29.961 --> 0:17:32.521 The ladies with the trainees were really the trainees were terrible. 0:17:32.961 --> 0:17:35.041 And some of the trainees that I believe or not, 0:17:35.241 --> 0:17:38.721 would turn up and they've got a driver's license with 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.480 a male on it, but they're fucking dressed as a female. 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:43.080 How then am I supposed to recognize you? 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:43.440 Like? 0:17:43.561 --> 0:17:45.001 You know what I mean? So when I go, that's 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.321 not you, what do you think do you think they're 0:17:47.321 --> 0:17:49.201 gonna one took the fucking shoe off. 0:17:49.120 --> 0:17:52.880 To throw at me, and it was, yeah, you know 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:53.200 what I mean. 0:17:53.281 --> 0:17:56.600 But it's the girls were never that bad. Actually, it's that, 0:17:56.681 --> 0:17:58.521 you know, you get some guys who would be in 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.081 the line and they'd stand there by some fucking hot 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.521 girls and they go, this is my girlfriend And I go, oh, yeah, 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.880 what's this and she go, oh, sure, you know what 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:10.240 I mean, because that's how they used to get them, 0:18:10.241 --> 0:18:12.041 you know what I mean. It's it was always the 0:18:12.441 --> 0:18:14.961 ones with the tns couldn't get in, so they get 0:18:15.001 --> 0:18:17.321