1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: After all that James Cecily is injureds the Hawk Skipper 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: ruled out of the next two crucial clashes that might 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: shape his team's fortunates. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 2: The agony and stoicism of Callen Ward, the injured giant 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: joins us back in Melbourne as he waits in the reconstruction. 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: And two of the games pivotal figures are here at 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: the desk Collingwood captain Darcy Moore and Carlton Ford Harry 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: McKay joined players Knights. We talked about his step into it, 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: debrace all of it. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: In the room and eat it. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that. 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: They're on the side of cautia with the brain, take. 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 4: The man on it. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: They played the best footy I've ever seen at the 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: start of the season, and injury said president left. The 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: couple older said, of course they do. It is the 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: stuff that legends are made of. What is holding the ball? 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 5: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 5: that I could do something. 20 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: Wrong, you know, and I need to get on the 21 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: board sextually. 22 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: The fans lover and with no fans, no through sixty 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: year old. 24 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot to work with this Tuesday night, Gaz 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: and I know you've had the most wonderful day. 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: I've had a great day, Jed. I look forward to 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: sharing it with you. It's a really special occasion. 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: A show and tell to come as we start tonight. 29 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: Channel seven's News is reporting that Tom Harley is poised 30 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: to accept the position as the chief operating Officer at 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: the AFL and when that comes to pass, it will 32 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: complete the most extraordinary recruiting raid on the Northern States. Yesterday, 33 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: Greg Swan out of the Brisbane lines. Today Tom Harley 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: out of the Swans. And think about this triumvirate. So 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: you've got the leader in Andrew Dillon, you've got the 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: gray hair who comes in in Greg Swan, and the 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: hair the next generation leader, Tom Harley. 38 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: Two Grand Final CEOs of the Year prior. It is 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: quite stunning. It is a stunning cup, no two ways 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: about jured. And as I said, this is your area 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: more so than mine. But from where I sit, it's 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: pretty impressive. 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: It's been decisive and it's been bold and it really 44 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: does set the game up for what comes next. Harley 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: is a premiership captain at Geelong, where he was a 46 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: renowned leader as well as been an accomplished player, he 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: was an excellent media performer. He's been the Swan's chief 48 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: executive since twenty nineteen, and he does represent I think 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: that natural leadership. He is a natural born leader. He's 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: a modern thinker, he's whip smart, and he is absolutely 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: the successor when that time comes. 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got great communicators, you know, and Andrew's a 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: bit of a knock on Andrews as the media staff 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: is not as polished as his predecessors. Well that's okay 55 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: if you surround yourself with two really good media performers 56 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: like Greg Swan and Tommy Harley. So I think they've 57 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: done a really good job, all right. 58 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: So we'll wait to see as that comes to hands. 59 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: What we have for you tonight's lined up is our players, 60 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: Darcy Moore and Harry McKay. Callen Ward is about to 61 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: join us, and Ray Chamblain's brought the chicken wings. It'll 62 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: be good viewing on midweek Tackle. As they follow the 63 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: developments at AFL headquarters. Lauren Wood, John Ralph and Glenn 64 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: McFarlan are working the phones as we walked down here. 65 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: And then tomorrow night, John Longmiro and Adam Simpson, Simon Goodwin, 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: a stacked lineup and slider number eight. It will be 67 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: our privilege to reveal Matt Tilly is the chief executive 68 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: of the M and D setup, and Hannah Monday, who's 69 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: with the Vixen's Netball's got its own big Freeze to 70 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: set up as well. And this is very much the 71 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: Tuesday Favorites is all yours. 72 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is getting bigger and bigger, the big 73 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: phrase Big Frieze eleven and it is a momentous occasion 74 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: on the calendar and it's delivered us this remarkable human 75 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: being by the name of Neil Danaher, who we've all 76 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: known as an outstanding footballer, very very good football coach 77 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: and now just providing a legacy for future am mend 78 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: suffers the likes of which you can't get your head around. 79 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: So today at the MCG he did what we haven't 80 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: expected him to be able to do, probably for the 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: last six years, and that is gather himself and get 82 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: to the MCG, the home of football, with his beloved 83 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: extended family, the Melbourne Football Club. Every single player was 84 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: gathered there in the playing list, every member of the administration, 85 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: the mcc there as well, and a host of his 86 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: former charges that he coached, and this amazing technology this 87 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: will we live in Now we've touched on this episode briefly. 88 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: New was able to talk, will deliver his message rather 89 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: in his own voice, so he uses his eye technology 90 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: to identify the words that he wants. But this technology 91 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: now delivers this uplifting message every king's birthday match. So 92 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: this is a bit I've got for you here which 93 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: I loved that. I loved all of it. But he 94 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: talks about the two sides of him when he was 95 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: first diagnosed, the mister negative and the mister positive. 96 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 6: And in those early days, I was having a constant 97 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 6: dialogue in my head what I call my mister Negative 98 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 6: and mister Positive voices. Mister Negative was loud, he said, 99 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 6: you're stuffed. There's no coming back from this, And to 100 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 6: be honest, didn't have a great argument against that at 101 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 6: the time. But then eventually mister Positive spoke up and 102 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 6: he asked, how's that working for you? Sitting in misery 103 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 6: listening to that voice in our way, And I had 104 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 6: to admit it wasn't working at all. It was making 105 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 6: me more anxious, more miserable. That was the start of 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 6: a shift. I didn't suddenly become a superhero. I didn't 107 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 6: have a plan, but I did realize one thing. If 108 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 6: I kept listening to mister negative, I was already done. 109 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: How a shurdinary is that to sit there and listen 110 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: to that. So he talks about that. I loved it 111 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: when he says, and then mister positive says, how's that. 112 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: Working for him? Yes? 113 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: And so he got moving And this is the over 114 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars raised, hope now for him and 115 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: d sufferers in the future, and a room full of 116 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: people who were just all struck to sit there and 117 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: watch him deliver that message. So it was a beautiful day. 118 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: And I don't never get out and deliver public messages. 119 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: But Melbourne support us. Please on Monday, if you can 120 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: get to the game, if you're a member, an MCC 121 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: member or an AFL member, get there because we want 122 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: to get ninety thousand plus. We know the Collingwood fans 123 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: will turn up in their draves. Melbourne fans have been 124 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: great supporters of this. But when you hear this man 125 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: speak and what he's trying to do, he just wants 126 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 2: to see every single seat field and every single head 127 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: of a bluebean hill. 128 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: Yes, it seems like we should do all in our 129 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: power to make that happen, so that there's a small 130 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: amount of ups for us publicly just privately. Did he 131 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: channel a bit of the Reverend and give it the 132 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: Melbourne treatment? 133 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: Yes he did, and he's going to talk to the 134 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: Collingwood team tomorrow, so let's be very even handed about this. 135 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: And I know how appreciative they are. But there was 136 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: a message there for his beloved dep. 137 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful. The big freeze is spreading right around the 138 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: country and the Suns did their bit today up on 139 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: the Gold Coast, so down the inflatable slide when Bob 140 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: easts I thought he wore the pink pretty well. Sally 141 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: Pearson who all the son's pink jumper, Brandon Ellis in 142 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: the shark suits, Mac Andrew in the budge smugglers. 143 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: Not not shy mag that is what we want to see. 144 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: The zel Jones I think might have just had a 145 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: little shot of James Magison here a. 146 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: Bit beefed up. That is good sport right there, Well done, 147 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: Well done to everyone. 148 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Everyone gets asked to do a photo opportunity along the way, 149 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: and in these moments, everyone says yes steel side Bottom 150 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: and Jake Melcham should they have said yes this one. 151 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: These are two of the oldest players in the competition. 152 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: Arthritis comes into it when he has to go in 153 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: the arctic conditions of the Penguins. They could have been excuse, 154 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: this is where you send the young bucks. But it's 155 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: great to see. I heard both these boys talk about 156 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: this as well and how much it means to them 157 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: to be involved in this game on Monday. So everyone's 158 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: doing their bit. 159 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Jered, everyone, players. 160 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: Administrations, mcg Melbourne, Collingwood. Come on, fans, get there, get 161 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: a lot to that game by yourself. For Beanie. You 162 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: can buy digital Beanie as well if you can't get 163 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: there and you want to contribute still and you have 164 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: your name recognized. But let's feel this ground on Monday 165 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 2: in a big, big way. And I know for Neil 166 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: it would be something that Philly's heart. So that's what 167 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: we want to achieve, So let's do it. 168 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: What are Tuesday favorites? That is all right? More of 169 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: that Tomorrow night as well. Let's get into the agenda. 170 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: And James Cicily is injured as had been widely suspected 171 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: and speculated upon and has seemed perfectly obvious watching him 172 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: play in recent weeks. The Hawks skipper was struggling. The 173 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: medical decision was taken today to put him on ice. 174 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: As it were, he won't play again before at least 175 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: round sixteen. Despite the protestations of last week. 176 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 7: His groins are fine, He's going to are fine, fine, 177 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 7: he's playing every week. There's no reason that he's kicking 178 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 7: has anything to do with this groins. He's going to 179 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 7: are fine, and he kicked the ball reasonably well last week. 180 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 7: I thought, go watch all of his kicks and tell 181 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 7: me which ones you thought he could do better. 182 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Bring me back, show me some vision. But I'm really 183 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: with how he's kicking. 184 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 7: I can get you all the kicks that he's done 185 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 7: that hardly anyone else in the competition can pull off, 186 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 7: and he's on them over the last month. So the 187 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 7: kicking is that that is a storm in a tea cup. 188 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: I've seen this for decades when the clubs actually do 189 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: themselves any favors. In this moment, it has been perfectly 190 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: obvious watching James sicily that he is not the player 191 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: that he is capable and has previously been. 192 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it makes it. I think it makes them 193 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: look a bit silly. Let's be kind and generous. You 194 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: can go a bit harder if you want, but it 195 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: just as you say. This has been part of the 196 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: wrestle for clubs for a long long time, but even 197 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: back when I was playing, do you say? And then 198 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: in the end what happens is you don't do the 199 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: player justice because Sam goes out and defends him because 200 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: he thinks he's doing the right thing as the coach, 201 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: and then he goes and has six touches and can't run, 202 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: and then you know he We are on Tuesday going, 203 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: oh yeah, I know what we said, but it's fired 204 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: up post the Collingwood game. We all know what's going on. 205 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 2: So I don't think it does the club or the 206 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: player any good. I think being open and transparent is 207 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: probably the best way. I don't have to tell everyone, 208 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: but there's no harm in saying, look, yeah, he's struggling 209 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: with whatever. We're going to keep playing him because we 210 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: think we can get him through. But you know, if 211 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: it comes a time where he needs the rest, he 212 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: needs the rest, and then today we would have went, well, 213 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: fair enough, you did your best. But yeah, we talked 214 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: last night. We don't have to go back over it, 215 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 2: but under siege, deflect, deny, defy you no, no, no, no. 216 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: Now they come out today and concede, confess and be 217 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: can try it. It's just a bit chilly. 218 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: So there are two big games, are they The buyer 219 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: is still a little way off for them, and they've 220 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: got the Bulldogs and adelaide knowing that the set of 221 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: games that they've lost to the contenders with two more 222 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: to come, so there's no under estimating what he's. 223 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: There's not, so they're going to have to bring in 224 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: back up out of the VFL. The players have been 225 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 2: looking for a chance, so this says they not becomes 226 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: enormous again. So we can't wait for it to come around. 227 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: But hasn't been as we said, it hasn't been a 228 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: great week for him, but it's not disastrous. They can 229 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: get it. They can get it right from him. 230 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: Hip and abdominal issues or what's been declared. Everyone thinks 231 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: it's groin so one day, one day know for sure. 232 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: The most emotional scenes at the weekend emanated out of 233 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: the Giants and callen Ward one of the most admired 234 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: veterans in the game. We all watched this and feared 235 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: the worst, and the worst was relays to Cal yesterday 236 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: when he met with the surgeon. It is an ACL, 237 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: so this had set up as one more dash out 238 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: at the family had moved back to Melbourne. He would 239 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: stay and play his footy with the Giants. It had 240 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: tremendously emotional impacts on all who saw it, from the 241 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: crowd to his teammates, initially for worse and then for better. 242 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: We asked Callen Ward if he'd prepared to join us tonight, 243 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: and he is one of the great men of football 244 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: and he has accepted that. Cal. It's great to have 245 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: you with us on three sixty. Thanks a lot, Thanks 246 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: guys for. 247 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 5: Having me on. 248 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: Hey go, how are you going? I reckon, it's the question. 249 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm not too bad. I'm pretty good. 250 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 5: I'm here in Melbourne with the family, which is always nice. 251 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 5: They got the news yesterday, which I knew was coming 252 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: anyway on New Astralia. I've done the OCL so to 253 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 5: par disappoint him, but at the same time, I'm happy 254 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 5: to be here and I just move on from it now. 255 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: How are your spirits? Yeah, spirits very okay. 256 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 5: I'm disappointed, obviously, I'm angry. I'm sad, I'm you know, emotional, 257 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 5: probably hasn't quite hit me yet, but I'm just flat 258 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 5: that I can't help the boys. And you know, I've 259 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 5: always wanted to play in a Premiership and that's probably 260 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 5: been taken away from me a little bit unless I 261 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 5: go on after this, which I'm not sure. But yeah, 262 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 5: I'm flat about all that. But at the same time, 263 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 5: I'm so grateful for the opportunity I've had for a 264 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 5: long time. And I've been one of the you know 265 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 5: one I like you ones where I've played over three 266 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 5: hundred games, I've played for eight en years. 267 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 2: So I'm so grateful for that. 268 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: Cow. 269 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: I feel for you too, mate, we're thinking of you. 270 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: Can you tell take us back to the decision to 271 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: play on because it's been reported your family comes back 272 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: to Melbourne, maybe that you were going to follow and 273 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: cool time on what's been an outstanding career. But there 274 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: you are up in Sydney with your family back here. 275 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 2: It's a big commitment. How did that come about? 276 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, we decided to do the long distance on the 277 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 5: back of Ruby's mum's a little bit sick, so she 278 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 5: wanted to spend some time with her and look after 279 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 5: her in Melbourne, which was always going to happen, and 280 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 5: take the kids. 281 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: So when we. 282 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 5: Spoke about doing the long distance, we knew that be 283 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: challenges with that, but it's something that Ruby really encouraged 284 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 5: me to do. And obviously I love playing football and 285 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 5: everyone says you're a long time retired, so you try 286 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 5: and play for as long as you can. And obviously 287 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 5: the pursuit of a premiership is really important to me 288 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 5: as well as my family, So to make both things 289 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 5: work has been really important for me. And yeah, it's great, 290 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 5: really well up until this point. So yeah, I mean 291 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 5: that's the reason that we get in the first place. 292 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,119 Speaker 5: And it's all been good so far until. 293 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: Emotional Yeah, till now of course the emotional scenes. Yeah, 294 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: when you did your need, then the lucky whitfield and 295 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: then tell us about the three quarter time comes around 296 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: and you're sitting there, your whole footy mortality is in 297 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: front of you, Your career may or may not be over, 298 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: and yet you find the strength and selflessness to step 299 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: up and address the playing group. Can you give us 300 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: some sort of an insight into how it come about 301 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: and what you said? 302 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 5: Oh, well, I've kind of learned from my years that 303 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 5: it's really important for any injured player to be really positive, 304 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: especially on the bench, because it's heartbreaking for the rest 305 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 5: of the team to see injured players on the bench, 306 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 5: and I guess especially a player in my position who's 307 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 5: probably the very end of his career. So, you know, 308 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: for me, I was telling myself to be really positive 309 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: and to be you know, a good, you know, seanding 310 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 5: board on the bench if I need to be for 311 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: the team that was playing, for the players who were playing, 312 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 5: so first and foremost that was my role for the 313 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 5: you know, for the day after I was injured, and 314 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 5: that was really important to me. And then the three 315 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 5: quarter time stuff is on the back of the conversation 316 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 5: I had with King, as he just said, it's really 317 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 5: important that I might speak to the boys, I might 318 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 5: lean on you for a little speech to the boys. 319 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 5: So I kind of had something in the back of 320 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 5: my head. 321 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: But at the same time, King has. 322 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 5: Kind of told me the key messaging, So it's pretty simple. 323 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 5: It's about playing our role and as I said, just 324 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 5: be really positive person, you know, in that group. And 325 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 5: I think that was the most important for me on 326 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 5: the day. 327 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: I wondered how you went watching the response is at 328 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: home and then we workshopped this last night. Is if 329 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: there ever was a group of players in the moment 330 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: who showed a leader what he had meant to them, 331 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: it was the way they responded to you, was it? 332 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: How did you take the last quarter? 333 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 4: In? 334 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: Oh? 335 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: They were amazing. 336 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 5: They obviously made me look very good, But it had 337 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 5: nothing to do with what I said. 338 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't think. 339 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 5: It was just the way they played, and I think 340 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 5: I think Richmond probably stopped in that last quarter. You know, 341 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 5: they were pretty fatigued, and we started to play some 342 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 5: good football. So we just started to take the game on, 343 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 5: which is what we know. We're you know, we're good, Adam. 344 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 5: We hadn't done that for a long time, so I 345 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 5: guess the boys turned on in the last quarter. So 346 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 5: I can take a little bit of the credit, but 347 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 5: definitely not. 348 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: Much of it. When we have the surgery, what have 349 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: you decided at the moment. 350 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: I had a meeting with Julian Feller, surgeon yesterday. Just 351 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: had to scan yesterday as well. So at the moment, 352 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 5: the needs through swollen to operate on it. So I've 353 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 5: got to give it a couple of weeks. I'll be 354 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 5: oly laying low here in Malbourne. I think we're booked 355 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 5: on the seventeen Stoning. 356 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: Two weeks time to just convention, nothing, nothing radical, just. 357 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: Conventional and I'm not doing the large round. 358 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: It was funny when I went down, I kind. 359 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 5: Of thought like we were we up during the season 360 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 5: straight away, I'm like around thirtey and how long we 361 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 5: got to go? 362 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: But I knew that. 363 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 5: Time had run out of it. You know, we've only 364 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 5: got three three months left, so it wasn't possible. 365 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: And you and it's the wrong time to ask, but 366 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: beyond this year, you just got to have the surgery 367 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: and make that decision. 368 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Then, yeah, I think so. 369 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 5: I mean, going on this year, the plan was to 370 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 5: play one more and give myself the best chance for 371 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 5: a premiership and that hasn't happened. So I guess I 372 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 5: really haven't really had much time to think about what 373 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 5: my next move I need. 374 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: I just want to have the surgery and. 375 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: Have some time with the found and started to think 376 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 5: about things after that. But yeah, I think most important 377 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 5: to me now is you have the surgery, look after 378 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 5: the knaby of the family and then get back to 379 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 5: the club and be there. 380 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: For the boys. Well whatever happens. Mate, There's a whole 381 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: football public and community that are so supportive. And I 382 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: said this last night that all we can hope for 383 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: is a footballer as you walk away from the game, 384 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: whether it be now, next year or the year after, 385 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: with the respect and know that you've given it everything. 386 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: And there are few that have been the embodiment of 387 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: that more than you. I think so from everyone, congratulations 388 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 2: and hope everything goes well. From a surgical point of view. 389 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: You've got a big, long life to live. Maybe a 390 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 2: coaching waiting after the response to your three quarters speech, 391 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: and we admire and respect you enormously, mate, I. 392 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 5: Really appreciate that. Boys, thank you very much. So I 393 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 5: will just say quickly, I want to thank the whole 394 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 5: football world, the AFON community, the Giants, other players from 395 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 5: other teams, my family and friend as well. The outpouring 396 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: has been absolutely amazing. They've made me feel very special 397 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 5: and very proud over the last few days. I thank 398 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 5: you everyone that's been there for me and it's been awesome, 399 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 5: and thank you for your words. 400 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: So appreciate it. Good on you callim a bards with 401 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: us Tonight's really appreciate that, all right? Yeah? What a 402 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: good man, what a good man? All right? Thursday night 403 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 1: is going to be a furnace. Just say Friday night, 404 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: Friday night, Friday night is going to be a fernace. 405 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: When Adelaide the the Lion's meet, so he thought, let's 406 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: stoke the furnace up right now. 407 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 4: You're going tag. 408 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: Lucky Neil or here mccluggyacha Anxy. 409 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: Yes we will, I said, I'll try. What are you bringing, 410 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: big o back? Face? 411 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: Can't tell you, Jared, I don't like our boys taking 412 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: dives like that in the stage we've spoken through. 413 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: Oh come on my copper fifteen Josh Shelley. 414 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: For that, there's a line. 415 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: There's a really fine line with it. I mean, if 416 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: Josh've got a free kick on that one, there was definitely, 417 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: you know, pushing the chest. We've talked about, you know, 418 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: what levels we want to be and what sort of 419 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 3: team we want to be areas that we value going forward. 420 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 3: So we'll just keep working our way through those small 421 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: things and no one's perfect, guys. 422 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 4: In my time at the club, this is our best 423 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 4: start to a year at round twelve. Now we're tracking 424 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: pretty well given the fact that it was you know, 425 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: a shortened pre season we had a lot of surgeries 426 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: and things like that. I'm sort of a little bit 427 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 4: surprised or actually where we are at the moment. 428 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Insufficient in ten. 429 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: So this is the out of bounds, deliberate out of 430 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: bounds in the SNFL. Here it's last possession out of 431 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: bounds and it works, and so at the moment, I 432 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: have no idea what the decision will be. 433 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: One of my pet hates in the game, Gary is 434 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 4: the signs that we hold up at the side of 435 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 4: the oble to sort of signify with various plays and 436 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 4: how long was left in the game. Honestly, it's a 437 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 4: dog's breakfast. 438 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: That our guys watched a lot of their footing. It's 439 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: one thing to know how they play, it's another thing 440 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: to stop them doing what they do really well. That'll 441 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: be the big one for us Friday and night. Can 442 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: we match it with the best? So we can't wait 443 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 3: for that. 444 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 4: We've been out to play a lot of these big 445 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: games over the last five or six years, so we're 446 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 4: experienced in that regard. But this is one of the 447 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: biggest challenges that we've had in a while. 448 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: Corner from the old world sport days, there are to 449 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: get to lower them ATACKI and the Valentine chocolates. 450 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: All right, what have you got for real or overreaction? Here? 451 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: Friday is the biggest game in Matthew Nick's rain. 452 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: I think that's real, Jared, I think they want this. 453 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: They came to the MCG I did this game a 454 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago that five points down at halftime, 455 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: they were in the contest, got opened up a little 456 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: bit in the back half and then kicked the last 457 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: two goals close to ten points that are coming again. 458 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: So they want this chance against the reigning premiers. And 459 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: that is real and I can't wait to see it 460 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 2: unfold for you, as was floated there by Nixy last 461 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: touch would make life easier for everyone. 462 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's real. So this is the natural 463 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: evolution of where we're going with in sufficient intent between 464 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: the arts and the best bit is there's this huge 465 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: body of work that exists in the sanfl It needs 466 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: to be studied, those who implemented it, those who police it, 467 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: and then what is the impact of it. But from 468 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: where we are with anything off the axis, anything skewed, 469 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: and then Titan and Titan, and we want the ball 470 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: in flow that's been the edict. This does make sense, 471 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: and there's not many rule changes that are so laid 472 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: out in front of us to make it. 473 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 2: Anyway. And it's between the arcs is the key to this. 474 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: Anything outside of that, we can still have the good 475 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: old fashioned boundary throwing. 476 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: Beach sessions are the answer. 477 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 2: Absolutely, pushing, Absolutely, I'm waiting for you to have a 478 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: bad night that hasn't happened in the last eight years. 479 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: And when you do, I'm going to whip you down 480 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: our wood beach cart you out in the dickstickers and 481 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: get you into the option. See how you go on 482 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: the back of that. See if that can't just sharpen 483 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: you up a little bit. So they got out of 484 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: there at about twelve o'clock on the on the night of 485 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: the game, and they're at the beach by five or 486 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: six in the morning. So you know, it's it's old fashioned. 487 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: I'm all for it, Jared, anything to try and break 488 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 2: the cycle. I think they did the push ups and 489 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: the sit ups and the whole box and dice. 490 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: I love the Kennedy's can finish. 491 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry some ut for my ears more thanks him 492 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: and the sur wangon a Miller's signature is more crucial. 493 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: Than Tom daconey. Oh, this is an overreaction because, just 494 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: like everyone else, I'm assuming they've already got the Tom 495 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: dacone in committed. 496 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm parking T d K. Surely, aren't you. 497 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: I think they've got him. They got him. So their 498 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: bird in the hands to my eye, isn't Wangony Miller, 499 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: it's actually td CA. And what's the bigger bird. Well, 500 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: they're paying for the bigger bird at one point seven. 501 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: They're not given Wangony Miller at one point seven. 502 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: They've got to make sure they've got enough left over 503 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: because they don't want to lose. 504 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: Our players are about to join us, Darcymore and Harry McKay. 505 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: We're thrilled to have them together here at the desk 506 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: in the studio, the Pies and the Blues represented with 507 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: all that's happening for the players in Putting right now