WEBVTT - MAFS is Megan Pustetto's Superbowl 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.680 A little bit of a trigger warning on this episode. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:06.560 There is talk of DV domestic violence, So if that 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:09.480 is something that is not for you right now, this 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:16.759 episode may not be for you. This is my first 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.840 time I've got someone back, and I'm really excited because 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.360 this wonderful woman, Meghan Pistetto, is a very good friend 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:23.759 of mine. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:25.400 We chat on the phone. It's brilliant. 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.840 We have these in depth conversations, mostly just gossy gossy 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.800 gossip about people that we know, because gossip is a 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.000 good thing. We ended up having a bit of a 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:38.160 conversation in this one where you could have turned off 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.440 the microphones and we would have just kept going. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.440 We wouldn't have known. We were just chatting. And I 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:44.800 think that's brilliant. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:46.839 So you are just going to be in on our 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.839 chat and I think you're really gonna like it. So 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:54.120 here is Megan Pistetto and I having a chat. I'm 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.680 so glad you're back. You know, we haven't had any repeat. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.680 You're our first because I wanted since we started the 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:04.959 pod cast, and especially since I started going solo, I wanted, 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:10.920 like after I cannot get my legs, my legs are caught. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.720 I can't. I can't get them out from where they 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.560 are right now, like seriously, and I'm cramp enough. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:30.600 Yes, since I started recording solo interviews, I wanted to 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.680 have a year later, like how were you a little 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.080 bit later? It was time last year, wasn't it? Well? Yeah, 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.319 because ANGREI and I were still recording together this time 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:41.279 last year, so. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.480 It would have been so welcome back. You're our first 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:46.600 return guest of the post. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.520 I'm glad I'm back because I feel like the last 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:50.120 interview I wasn't in a good space. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.840 So yeah, you were very worried about the last one. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.160 There was just a lot going on, yes, being docks harassed. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.760 I just was so tired from maths. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:59.680 It was just a lot. But I'm feeling better this year. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.320 I was gonna ask you what's burnout like? Because it 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.480 would be real in this kind of thing, because you 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.679 your podcast is your baby, it's your personal business. It's 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:17.239 your brand, and the boss, the employee, the employer, your everything, everything, 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:21.440 and so what you make of it is depends on 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.320 how successful you are. So like most people who have 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:29.120 their own businesses, they have to work so incredibly hard 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.480 to get it to a point where it's you know, 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.760 kind of working on its own and burn it can 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:35.760 really really happen. 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.520 So does that happen for you? Especially with Maths? 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.880 Yeah, So Maths is kind of like it's like the 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.120 super Bowl, but for me, like that season, I don't 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:48.119 work on any other shows that intensely a because even 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.239 if I did put out that much content for another show, 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.160 like the audience just isn't there, so you wouldn't get 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.680 the views, it wouldn't pay off for you. So Maths 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.840 it's it's worthwhile to kind of work hard and put 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.440 all of the content out because it's going to pay 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.640 off and the audience is there. So Maps is like 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.760 what feb till April and then there's a bit of 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.960 like flow on effect and then they'll get their Instagram's 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.040 back and then the second round of drama. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:11.560 Kick off again. 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.600 So but it's I'm okay now because when Maps is on, 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.760 it's four nights a week. So I'll work like like 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.160 up in the morning, six or seven and work till 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.120 like six at night, have a bit of a break, dinner, 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.519 gym or whatever, and then I work from when the 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.480 show's on like seven, seven thirty till like eleven doing 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.560 socials and stuff. So they're big days, and like some 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.760 of the days were like sixteen hours and I don't 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:37.760 like have a day off during maths, so I do 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.840 this like intensive period of like NonStop work. And I 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.400 actually felt okay this year. But when I stopped and 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.480 the show was over and I started to like rest 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.760 and like have a normal life, I actually got. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:48.800 Like severe burnout. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:50.960 And I think it was like when you stop doing 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.080 something like that, your body then crashes because it's so 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.680 used to that high, you know, volume of workload and 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:58.560 intense periods. 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.320 That it's working at the level. 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.680 Yeah, work at that level that your body just acclimatizes, 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.839 and then when you stop, your body's like oh what 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.840 so I started, I did have really bad burner. I'm 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.160 feeling okay now, but like severe, Like I woke up 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:15.160 at nine o'clock one morning, after sleeping twelve hours, had breakfast, 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:16.080 I had to go back to bed. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:17.680 Like it was I can't explain it. 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.440 It's like severe just tiredness, fatigue, like crazy. But I'm 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.240 feeling okay now. This season wasn't as as bad as 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:24.839 last year. 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.080 Yeah, last year was seemed a lot worse, yea. But 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.919 also you're there'd be a match fitness that you're starting 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:32.320 to get. 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:32.760 Yeah. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:33.119 True. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:34.840 So every season you know. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.479 What to look out for, what to not let affect you, 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.000 how to work so you can be at your optimum. 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.679 I think that's what helped me this year because last 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.719 year I didn't block out a lot of outside noise 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.239 and things that were going on, and I not played 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.320 into it, but I got affected by it and I 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.440 let it affect me. This year, there was some stuff 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.080 happening at the start of the year, you know, like 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.719 I had a court case that was ongoing that I 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.919 ended up just not going to because I was like, 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.280 it's either that or maths, and I just weigh up 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.279 what's more important. It's if I go and you know, 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.000 pursue this because legal stuff obviously takes like a lot 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.440 of time and energy. I think the energy is probably 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.080 the biggest thing. I was like, I'm going to flop 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.000 this whole season, and my content's not going to be good. 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.360 So I just chose to focus on that and put 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.920 that as a priority and blocked out some other stuff 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.119 that was happening and really just focused and like didn't 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:29.880 let anything distract me. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.560 This year, I noticed that as well, and I thought 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:37.440 it was really really good because last season we would 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:42.120 chat throughout and you this season were kind of like, 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.720 I'm not you know, I, once this is over, I'm 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.080 going to give you more of my attention. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.240 Oh my god. I didn't speak to people for weeks. Yeah, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.920 but it was like but times for my most period 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:53.760 at time when. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.400 You look at the grand scheme of things, and it's 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.039 really important that you did that for yourself, I thought, 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.040 because and if I asked you anything, you would say 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.080 just go and listen to the pod because I can't 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.560 repeat myself because I wrote and I'm thinking, oh my god, 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.839 how many friends must hope that's the same question. 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.200 Oh my god, did you see what I'm like? Can 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:12.960 you please listen or like even just sleeople in the 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.719 face of the group and stuff. And I got really annoyed. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.960 I did a post and I was like, guys, I've 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.280 put so much effort into the podcast, please I get 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.359 so annoyed on the group chat when we do the 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.119 episodes each night, when someone's like, oh, I can't believe 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:25.479 this or that, and I'm like, guys, it was in 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.760 the podcast, and like, I'm not expecting everyone to like 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.720 make my podcast a priority, but it's just kind of 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.080 annoying when it's like you have to repeat yourself because 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:32.480 it's like. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.600 Yeah, all there because all the answers, you need to 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:35.040 do that. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.560 And that was good because it actually made like, for 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.880 someone who has a podcast, it's hard to listen to 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.920 other podcasts, but yours was really I mean, all podcasts 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.320 are great, but yours had the answers that I was 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.840 asking you personally for and it made a lot more 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.359 sense for me to just do it that way. But 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.000 you know, I thought, oh, we'll just have a conversation 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:56.719 because we're friends. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.640 But once I realized. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:03.159 That that's but just four more friends, that's like all 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:03.760 your time. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.240 Yeah, and it's not what I'm like. My podcast is 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.440 so amazing. Everyone needs to listen, But I go there 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.840 and that's why I put it in. Yeah, specifically go 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.240 to effort to think about what people would want to know, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.280 like what questions are going to pop up when they're watching, 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.000 or what are things that are a bit left unexplained. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:20.880 So I do go to that effort to kind of 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.560 answer questions that are going to pop up. So that's 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.800 why I'm like, guys, it's trust me, It'll be in there. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.280 And then if yeah, if I've got four people asking 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.960 me questions about maths, it's like, I also have twenty 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.160 four contestants that I'm speaking to, and that's probably what 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.960 takes up most of my time. So it's checking in 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.040 with all of them each day. This happened last night, 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:40.800 Like do you have any more info about it? Or 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.480 what's coming up this week? So it is very hard 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.960 to it's a big job for one person to keep 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:47.680 in contact with all of these people. Obviously I'm not 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.520 speaking to all twenty four, but yeah, so that's what 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:50.560 I was going to ask about. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.640 How do you get to talk to them? So it's 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.040 a bit of a referral system. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.920 Okay, Yes, So before the podcast, when I was freelance 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.040 and doing this content, but I would sell it to 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.440 different outlets, I would have to find out who the 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.040 contestants were. Either like I'd work with paparazzi and they 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:09.880 would be shooting and they'd send me a photo like 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.200 and it would be sometimes just a photo and you'd 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.280 have to identify who they are, or you'll get a 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.080 contestant from a previous year that says I know someone 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.240 or someone reached out to me for help and then 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:21.000 they put me in touch. 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.679 So it's a bit of a referral system. 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.760 But it was quite hard back then because I didn't 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.720 have anything to show them, like it was a bit 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.680 of a trust exercise of like, no, trust me, I'll 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.880 help you and I won't screw you over. And now 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.600 that the pod, so it's quite hard to convince them 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.959 and get them to work with you because it's, yeah, 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.160 it's just based off trust. But now that the podcast 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.640 has been going for so many years, people know it 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.480 and they know me, and they know that I don't 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.800 know reveal my sources, that I can be trusted and 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.760 hopefully that I do a good job. So now they 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.520 kind of come to me, which is good. Or they 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.720 can just listen to the pod and be like, oh, okay, cool, 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.800 that's what she's all about, like getting the story out 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.760 and stuff. So yeah, it's usually a referral like someone 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:01.800 will know someone this year, like a couple of mutual 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.480 friends that I had with people, and then once you 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.280 kind of talk to one contestant, they're like, oh, I'm 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:07.960 friends with this person. I'll get them to talk. Can 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.079 you help them as well? Or they'll just reach out 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.120 to you once the show's starting and they start hearing 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.079 your podcast and see the article. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.120 Villains just reach out to you and say, I think 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.160 I've looks like I've got. 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:20.600 A bad edit. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:25.360 Yeah, I'm getting screwed over. Help. Usually, what's the reason 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:26.199 for reaching out all? 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:27.040 Can you tell? 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.439 Sometimes it's hard if you build up a personal relationship 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.040 with your sources, which you do and I think like 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.560 people kind of criticize that, and it's like, that's how 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.080 journalism works, Like you have to have strong sources and 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.000 you have to have good relationships with them, and they 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.520 they need to trust you and you need to trust them. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:47.120 So you do form friendships and you know, good relationships 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.200 with them. So it's kind of like if you've had 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.480 a good experience with them and they seem really nice 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.880 to you, it's it can be a bit confusing to 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.920 them if they start behaving really badly on screen and 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.480 you're like, is that about edit? Or did they do that? 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:02.920 But you know that's only one side of them. They're 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.360 not always that bad, Like they just had their moments. 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.320 It can be a bit tricky to separate the two 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.120 of like, oh, but I really like them as a person, 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.640 but yeah, they did horrible stuff on the show. So 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.440 it can be tricky, but I usually just ask around 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.280 to like a few other people and I'm like, oh, hey, 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.040 so what did you think. Do you think that person's 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:20.800 actually getting about it or was that how they were 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.880 And you just get a sense of what other people, 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:25.440 what their perception of it was. 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.320 Do you get many of them stopped talking to you say, 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.199 can't I can't believe you've said that on the podcast. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.720 It's not true, even though even if it is, because 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.600 I know that you don't report anything unless you've checked it. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.920 Yeah, well, the thing is, it's not it's yes, it's checking. 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.319 So usually I will if I get a story, especially 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.880 if it's something that's quite controversial, I will check it 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.800 in terms of I'll ask another contestant, is this what happened? 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.079 And then it's like you've at least got two sides 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.200 of the story, and it's you know, one source said 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.880 this and one source said that. Include them both, and 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.000 it gives you a bit of a more rounded view. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.040 But I do reach out to all of the contestants 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:03.720 at the start of the season and I say, hey, 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:05.920 here's my number. Let me know if you need anything, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:07.880 like if you ever want me to put any stories 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.400 out for you or share your side that's not being shown, 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.840 or if things aren't portrayed accurately, let me know. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:14.679 So I do give everyone the chance. 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.440 At the start of the season, for example, I even 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:20.000 message like Jack and Tory. So then it's like if 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.400 they don't speak to me, and I've only got the 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.040 other side, and I'm putting that out and I've tried 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:26.200 to get their side and I can't. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.240 It's like what else can I do? 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.640 Yeah, You've given them the chance, so they're. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.640 Almost doing a disservice to themselves by not And then 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.679 it's like, I can't force you to speak to. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.760 So speaking of those two, they didn't you. No, I 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.000 haven't spoken to them. Okay, I think I don't know 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.160 if they're actually speaking to Oh No, I think they're 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.719 speaking to the Daily Mail. Like everyone kind of has 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:51.640 their personal outlet that they trust and work exclusively with. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.800 So it is a bit of like a guber competition. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.880 Well, the funny thing is that you know that Daily 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:01.160 Mail dude, he always gets the you know, the Jackson 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.839 Harrison's and the Deans and those toxic dudes, and I 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.240 always get the really nice people that are lovely, and 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.400 so I'm always like which team do you want to 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.520 be be associated with that group or do you want 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:12.720 to be associated with my group? 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.000 Well, I just had someone DM me this morning, a 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.280 woman I've known for quite a while, just through Instagram 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.240 since I was on goggle. 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.040 Box, and she said. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:29.439 It's she pointed out how many men like Dean and 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.559 not Jack because she said Jack will probably join them, 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:36.560 but Dean and Harrison. Oh, because I posted something about 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.280 one of the stories that Harrison did and a guy 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.360 called Will has done a stitch with it and it's 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:47.320 been brilliant, it's so good. And she said they do 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.800 these things so they'll get just people looking at the 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.200 you know, stories. They just want eyes on, numbers on. 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.320 And I'm like, well, that's why I never go to 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:03.320 them directly. I'll watch Will's video instead. She said, Dean 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:07.760 Wells has just commented on Barbrastriss post because it was 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.640 about a Democrat or something. She said, it's just so 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.760 he will be engaged with a heap of people. I'm like, yeah, 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.680 I know, but I never really knew, like I never 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:22.200 really figured that they are just they're just purely fall 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.360 back and forth as many people as they possibly can. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.600 They're just trying to get attention, like they are so 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:31.160 desperate for attention because obviously not getting it in other 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.600 ways because they don't have other stuff to offer, so 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.200 they will just be controversial and offensive because they know 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.720 that will get a reaction from people. So it's the 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.600 same formula they follow every year. Harrison's definitely picked that 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.319 up from Dean because you know, he's seen how much 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.319 attention it's gotten. But I at least once a week 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.280 will get someone sending me a comment from Dean, and 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:50.959 I actually don't even read them anymore. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.079 I'm like, I don't care. Everyone knows he's. 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.400 It's a disgust you have to remove. 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.360 I'm just like, I don't need to share everything that 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.840 he says because we all know he is an absolute 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.960 scum of the earth. And same as Harrison. Now, so 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.680 this is what I mean. At the start of the season, 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:05.360 where I was. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:06.679 You know, not. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.439 Focusing it on kind of ignoring the outside noise, Harrison 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.800 body shamed me and he said these horrible comments about me, 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:19.560 not even just body shaming, a lot of other stuff, 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.800 and I saved everything in a folder and I was like, 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.320 all right, I'm gonna do an episode about this, and 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.760 I'm gonna respond. And then I sat with it for 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.040 a bit and I was like, I can't be bothered. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.960 I actually don't even owe this dudent, Like why am 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.040 I even acknowledging something that he said. He's trying to 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.320 get a reaction from me. He's trying to it would 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.520 be giving him one. I'm giving him my platform, I'm 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.520 giving him attention. I'm sharing his disgusting views. I feel 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.400 like we just some people do just agree with. It's 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.680 like he's not even worth acknowledging, And so I chose 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.320 just to I was like, actually, you know what, I'm 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.160 not even going to waste my time answering to you, 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.160 like I actually owe you nothing. So that was what 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.520 I mean, like just getting that noise out. But he 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.360 has continued just to attack women and go on and 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.360 say things. And Lindall came on my pod and she 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.480 kind of she roasted him a little bit, but it was, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.200 you know, it wasn't that bad. She was just talking 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.360 about her season of Maths and he obviously saw it. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.600 And then he posted this thing about all the maps 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.680 me and the Maths brides being unmarriable because we're over 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.120 thirty and we're not in a relationship, which is a 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.520 whole you know, I don't even need to explain why 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:25.600 that's so far, But Tani and Linda they all started 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.160 calling him out and I was like, stop, because that's 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.720 what he wants. He has now gotten a reaction from you, 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.320 He's got an attention, you've shared your platform with him. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.040 He's probably got more followers. He then got national media 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.920 coverage because every outlet then responded to you know, what 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.960 he had said, and it's then amplified to a large audience. 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:43.240 And there's some people out there that are going to 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.600 see that and agree. And so I started a group 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.040 chat with them and I'm like, guys, just stop acknowledging him. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.360 This is what he wants and narcissist like that. The 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.080 thing that annoys them the most is if you don't 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:53.520 give them. 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.920 Attention, if you staff them of it, let them shout 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.640 off into the abyss. And for anyone listening the oxygen 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.680 right now, if you happen to have followed Dean or 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:09.720 Harrison or Jack Stop or even Bryce from past seasons, 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.320 and you just go and check whether you're still following them, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.320 like have you actively unfollowed them? If you haven't, go 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.440 and do it right now. If you got your phone 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.920 near you go and do it right now. Unfollow these 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.000 kind of people because the best thing we can do 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.760 is to take the attention away from them. And if 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:29.160 they haven't got the followers that they want, that's just 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.640 the beginning. So if there's there's your little public service 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.840 announcement and homework for today. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.480 Did you see Carrie Bigmore did that amazing video about 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:42.000 men's violence. He left some comments and everyone's been sending 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:43.360 it to me. I haven't even read it. I'm like, 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:44.160 I'd never want to know. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.360 I don't care. Like it's just we know that he's 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:48.440 just the worst. 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:50.800 So and you know that. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.120 Rice was the one of the worst I've ever seen 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.000 on that show, and he's turned out to be the 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.280 least worst of the four of them. 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.520 It's not funny. I mean, he's still I don't follow him. 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.199 I've got him, but I don't follow and don't know 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:05.760 what he's even. 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.680 I don't know that. But he's, as he says, as 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:08.520 little as possible. 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.320 He's kind of you know, I don't know whether he's 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.320 still just I mean, this is a long game. 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:16.840 If he's playing that, I told. 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.800 You, so this is the thing with Jack and Tory. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.399 I think it's following the Bryce formula in terms of, like, 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.480 I look, I'm not in the relationship. I probably can't judge, 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.320 but I personally think that Bryce stayed with Melissa out 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.480 of spite to prove everyone wrong because there was so 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.359 much backlash. And it's like, if he ever broke up 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.240 with her, then it's we can say we were so 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:40.600 I told you so, so just saying her because it's oh, what. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:41.080 Else can you do? 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.439 Absolutely, the really weird thing is people saying, oh, like 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.840 I even't just said it? Then, could someone be playing 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.280