1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: A little bit of a trigger warning on this episode. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: There is talk of DV domestic violence, So if that 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: is something that is not for you right now, this 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: episode may not be for you. This is my first 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: time I've got someone back, and I'm really excited because 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: this wonderful woman, Meghan Pistetto, is a very good friend 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: of mine. 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: We chat on the phone. It's brilliant. 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: We have these in depth conversations, mostly just gossy gossy 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: gossip about people that we know, because gossip is a 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: good thing. We ended up having a bit of a 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: conversation in this one where you could have turned off 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: the microphones and we would have just kept going. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: We wouldn't have known. We were just chatting. And I 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: think that's brilliant. 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: So you are just going to be in on our 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: chat and I think you're really gonna like it. So 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: here is Megan Pistetto and I having a chat. I'm 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: so glad you're back. You know, we haven't had any repeat. 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: You're our first because I wanted since we started the 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: pod cast, and especially since I started going solo, I wanted, 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: like after I cannot get my legs, my legs are caught. 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: I can't. I can't get them out from where they 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: are right now, like seriously, and I'm cramp enough. 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: Yes, since I started recording solo interviews, I wanted to 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: have a year later, like how were you a little 27 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: bit later? It was time last year, wasn't it? Well? Yeah, 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: because ANGREI and I were still recording together this time 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,279 Speaker 1: last year, so. 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: It would have been so welcome back. You're our first 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: return guest of the post. 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: I'm glad I'm back because I feel like the last 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: interview I wasn't in a good space. 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, you were very worried about the last one. 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: There was just a lot going on, yes, being docks harassed. 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: I just was so tired from maths. 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: It was just a lot. But I'm feeling better this year. 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you what's burnout like? Because it 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: would be real in this kind of thing, because you 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: your podcast is your baby, it's your personal business. It's 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: your brand, and the boss, the employee, the employer, your everything, everything, 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: and so what you make of it is depends on 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: how successful you are. So like most people who have 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: their own businesses, they have to work so incredibly hard 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: to get it to a point where it's you know, 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: kind of working on its own and burn it can 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: really really happen. 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: So does that happen for you? Especially with Maths? 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Maths is kind of like it's like the 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: super Bowl, but for me, like that season, I don't 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 3: work on any other shows that intensely a because even 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 3: if I did put out that much content for another show, 53 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: like the audience just isn't there, so you wouldn't get 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: the views, it wouldn't pay off for you. So Maths 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: it's it's worthwhile to kind of work hard and put 56 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: all of the content out because it's going to pay 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: off and the audience is there. So Maps is like 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: what feb till April and then there's a bit of 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: like flow on effect and then they'll get their Instagram's 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: back and then the second round of drama. 61 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: Kick off again. 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: So but it's I'm okay now because when Maps is on, 63 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: it's four nights a week. So I'll work like like 64 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: up in the morning, six or seven and work till 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: like six at night, have a bit of a break, dinner, 66 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 3: gym or whatever, and then I work from when the 67 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: show's on like seven, seven thirty till like eleven doing 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: socials and stuff. So they're big days, and like some 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: of the days were like sixteen hours and I don't 70 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: like have a day off during maths, so I do 71 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: this like intensive period of like NonStop work. And I 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: actually felt okay this year. But when I stopped and 73 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: the show was over and I started to like rest 74 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: and like have a normal life, I actually got. 75 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: Like severe burnout. 76 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: And I think it was like when you stop doing 77 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: something like that, your body then crashes because it's so 78 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: used to that high, you know, volume of workload and 79 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: intense periods. 80 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: That it's working at the level. 81 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, work at that level that your body just acclimatizes, 82 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 3: and then when you stop, your body's like oh what 83 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: so I started, I did have really bad burner. I'm 84 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: feeling okay now, but like severe, Like I woke up 85 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: at nine o'clock one morning, after sleeping twelve hours, had breakfast, 86 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: I had to go back to bed. 87 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: Like it was I can't explain it. 88 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: It's like severe just tiredness, fatigue, like crazy. But I'm 89 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: feeling okay now. This season wasn't as as bad as 90 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: last year. 91 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, last year was seemed a lot worse, yea. But 92 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: also you're there'd be a match fitness that you're starting 93 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: to get. 94 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 95 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 4: True. 96 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: So every season you know. 97 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: What to look out for, what to not let affect you, 98 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: how to work so you can be at your optimum. 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 3: I think that's what helped me this year because last 100 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: year I didn't block out a lot of outside noise 101 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 3: and things that were going on, and I not played 102 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: into it, but I got affected by it and I 103 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: let it affect me. This year, there was some stuff 104 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: happening at the start of the year, you know, like 105 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: I had a court case that was ongoing that I 106 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 3: ended up just not going to because I was like, 107 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: it's either that or maths, and I just weigh up 108 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: what's more important. It's if I go and you know, 109 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: pursue this because legal stuff obviously takes like a lot 110 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: of time and energy. I think the energy is probably 111 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: the biggest thing. I was like, I'm going to flop 112 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: this whole season, and my content's not going to be good. 113 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: So I just chose to focus on that and put 114 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: that as a priority and blocked out some other stuff 115 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 3: that was happening and really just focused and like didn't 116 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: let anything distract me. 117 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: This year, I noticed that as well, and I thought 118 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: it was really really good because last season we would 119 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: chat throughout and you this season were kind of like, 120 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I, once this is over, I'm 121 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: going to give you more of my attention. 122 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: Oh my god. I didn't speak to people for weeks. Yeah, 123 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: but it was like but times for my most period 124 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: at time when. 125 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: You look at the grand scheme of things, and it's 126 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: really important that you did that for yourself, I thought, 127 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: because and if I asked you anything, you would say 128 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: just go and listen to the pod because I can't 129 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: repeat myself because I wrote and I'm thinking, oh my god, 130 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: how many friends must hope that's the same question. 131 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, did you see what I'm like? Can 132 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: you please listen or like even just sleeople in the 133 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: face of the group and stuff. And I got really annoyed. 134 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: I did a post and I was like, guys, I've 135 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 3: put so much effort into the podcast, please I get 136 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: so annoyed on the group chat when we do the 137 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 3: episodes each night, when someone's like, oh, I can't believe 138 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: this or that, and I'm like, guys, it was in 139 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: the podcast, and like, I'm not expecting everyone to like 140 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: make my podcast a priority, but it's just kind of 141 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: annoying when it's like you have to repeat yourself because 142 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: it's like. 143 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, all there because all the answers, you need to 144 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 4: do that. 145 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: And that was good because it actually made like, for 146 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: someone who has a podcast, it's hard to listen to 147 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: other podcasts, but yours was really I mean, all podcasts 148 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: are great, but yours had the answers that I was 149 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: asking you personally for and it made a lot more 150 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: sense for me to just do it that way. But 151 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, I thought, oh, we'll just have a conversation 152 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: because we're friends. 153 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: But once I realized. 154 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: That that's but just four more friends, that's like all 155 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: your time. 156 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not what I'm like. My podcast is 157 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: so amazing. Everyone needs to listen, But I go there 158 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: and that's why I put it in. Yeah, specifically go 159 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: to effort to think about what people would want to know, 160 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: like what questions are going to pop up when they're watching, 161 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: or what are things that are a bit left unexplained. 162 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: So I do go to that effort to kind of 163 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: answer questions that are going to pop up. So that's 164 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: why I'm like, guys, it's trust me, It'll be in there. 165 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: And then if yeah, if I've got four people asking 166 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: me questions about maths, it's like, I also have twenty 167 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: four contestants that I'm speaking to, and that's probably what 168 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: takes up most of my time. So it's checking in 169 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: with all of them each day. This happened last night, 170 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: Like do you have any more info about it? Or 171 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: what's coming up this week? So it is very hard 172 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: to it's a big job for one person to keep 173 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: in contact with all of these people. Obviously I'm not 174 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: speaking to all twenty four, but yeah, so that's what 175 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: I was going to ask about. 176 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: How do you get to talk to them? So it's 177 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: a bit of a referral system. 178 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, So before the podcast, when I was freelance 179 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: and doing this content, but I would sell it to 180 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: different outlets, I would have to find out who the 181 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: contestants were. Either like I'd work with paparazzi and they 182 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: would be shooting and they'd send me a photo like 183 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: and it would be sometimes just a photo and you'd 184 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: have to identify who they are, or you'll get a 185 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: contestant from a previous year that says I know someone 186 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: or someone reached out to me for help and then 187 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: they put me in touch. 188 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 4: So it's a bit of a referral system. 189 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: But it was quite hard back then because I didn't 190 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: have anything to show them, like it was a bit 191 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: of a trust exercise of like, no, trust me, I'll 192 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: help you and I won't screw you over. And now 193 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: that the pod, so it's quite hard to convince them 194 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 3: and get them to work with you because it's, yeah, 195 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: it's just based off trust. But now that the podcast 196 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: has been going for so many years, people know it 197 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: and they know me, and they know that I don't 198 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: know reveal my sources, that I can be trusted and 199 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: hopefully that I do a good job. So now they 200 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: kind of come to me, which is good. Or they 201 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: can just listen to the pod and be like, oh, okay, cool, 202 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: that's what she's all about, like getting the story out 203 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: and stuff. So yeah, it's usually a referral like someone 204 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: will know someone this year, like a couple of mutual 205 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: friends that I had with people, and then once you 206 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: kind of talk to one contestant, they're like, oh, I'm 207 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: friends with this person. I'll get them to talk. Can 208 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 3: you help them as well? Or they'll just reach out 209 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: to you once the show's starting and they start hearing 210 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: your podcast and see the article. 211 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Villains just reach out to you and say, I think 212 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: I've looks like I've got. 213 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: A bad edit. 214 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm getting screwed over. Help. Usually, what's the reason 215 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 4: for reaching out all? 216 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: Can you tell? 217 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's hard if you build up a personal relationship 218 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: with your sources, which you do and I think like 219 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: people kind of criticize that, and it's like, that's how 220 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: journalism works, Like you have to have strong sources and 221 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: you have to have good relationships with them, and they 222 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: they need to trust you and you need to trust them. 223 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: So you do form friendships and you know, good relationships 224 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 3: with them. So it's kind of like if you've had 225 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: a good experience with them and they seem really nice 226 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: to you, it's it can be a bit confusing to 227 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: them if they start behaving really badly on screen and 228 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: you're like, is that about edit? Or did they do that? 229 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: But you know that's only one side of them. They're 230 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: not always that bad, Like they just had their moments. 231 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: It can be a bit tricky to separate the two 232 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: of like, oh, but I really like them as a person, 233 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: but yeah, they did horrible stuff on the show. So 234 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: it can be tricky, but I usually just ask around 235 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: to like a few other people and I'm like, oh, hey, 236 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: so what did you think. Do you think that person's 237 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: actually getting about it or was that how they were 238 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: And you just get a sense of what other people, 239 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: what their perception of it was. 240 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Do you get many of them stopped talking to you say, 241 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: can't I can't believe you've said that on the podcast. 242 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: It's not true, even though even if it is, because 243 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: I know that you don't report anything unless you've checked it. 244 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the thing is, it's not it's yes, it's checking. 245 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 3: So usually I will if I get a story, especially 246 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: if it's something that's quite controversial, I will check it 247 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: in terms of I'll ask another contestant, is this what happened? 248 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 3: And then it's like you've at least got two sides 249 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: of the story, and it's you know, one source said 250 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: this and one source said that. Include them both, and 251 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: it gives you a bit of a more rounded view. 252 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: But I do reach out to all of the contestants 253 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: at the start of the season and I say, hey, 254 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: here's my number. Let me know if you need anything, 255 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: like if you ever want me to put any stories 256 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: out for you or share your side that's not being shown, 257 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: or if things aren't portrayed accurately, let me know. 258 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 4: So I do give everyone the chance. 259 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: At the start of the season, for example, I even 260 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: message like Jack and Tory. So then it's like if 261 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: they don't speak to me, and I've only got the 262 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: other side, and I'm putting that out and I've tried 263 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: to get their side and I can't. 264 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: It's like what else can I do? 265 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, You've given them the chance, so they're. 266 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: Almost doing a disservice to themselves by not And then 267 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 3: it's like, I can't force you to speak to. 268 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: So speaking of those two, they didn't you. No, I 269 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: haven't spoken to them. Okay, I think I don't know 270 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: if they're actually speaking to Oh No, I think they're 271 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: speaking to the Daily Mail. Like everyone kind of has 272 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: their personal outlet that they trust and work exclusively with. 273 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: So it is a bit of like a guber competition. 274 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: Well, the funny thing is that you know that Daily 275 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: Mail dude, he always gets the you know, the Jackson 276 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 3: Harrison's and the Deans and those toxic dudes, and I 277 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: always get the really nice people that are lovely, and 278 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: so I'm always like which team do you want to 279 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: be be associated with that group or do you want 280 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 3: to be associated with my group? 281 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: Well, I just had someone DM me this morning, a 282 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: woman I've known for quite a while, just through Instagram 283 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: since I was on goggle. 284 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: Box, and she said. 285 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: It's she pointed out how many men like Dean and 286 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: not Jack because she said Jack will probably join them, 287 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: but Dean and Harrison. Oh, because I posted something about 288 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: one of the stories that Harrison did and a guy 289 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: called Will has done a stitch with it and it's 290 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: been brilliant, it's so good. And she said they do 291 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: these things so they'll get just people looking at the 292 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, stories. They just want eyes on, numbers on. 293 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, that's why I never go to 294 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: them directly. I'll watch Will's video instead. She said, Dean 295 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: Wells has just commented on Barbrastriss post because it was 296 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: about a Democrat or something. She said, it's just so 297 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: he will be engaged with a heap of people. I'm like, yeah, 298 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: I know, but I never really knew, like I never 299 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: really figured that they are just they're just purely fall 300 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: back and forth as many people as they possibly can. 301 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: They're just trying to get attention, like they are so 302 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: desperate for attention because obviously not getting it in other 303 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: ways because they don't have other stuff to offer, so 304 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: they will just be controversial and offensive because they know 305 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: that will get a reaction from people. So it's the 306 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: same formula they follow every year. Harrison's definitely picked that 307 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 3: up from Dean because you know, he's seen how much 308 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 3: attention it's gotten. But I at least once a week 309 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: will get someone sending me a comment from Dean, and 310 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 3: I actually don't even read them anymore. 311 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't care. Everyone knows he's. 312 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: It's a disgust you have to remove. 313 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't need to share everything that 314 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: he says because we all know he is an absolute 315 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: scum of the earth. And same as Harrison. Now, so 316 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: this is what I mean. At the start of the season, 317 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: where I was. 318 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: You know, not. 319 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 3: Focusing it on kind of ignoring the outside noise, Harrison 320 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: body shamed me and he said these horrible comments about me, 321 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: not even just body shaming, a lot of other stuff, 322 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: and I saved everything in a folder and I was like, 323 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna do an episode about this, and 324 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna respond. And then I sat with it for 325 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: a bit and I was like, I can't be bothered. 326 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: I actually don't even owe this dudent, Like why am 327 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: I even acknowledging something that he said. He's trying to 328 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: get a reaction from me. He's trying to it would 329 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: be giving him one. I'm giving him my platform, I'm 330 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: giving him attention. I'm sharing his disgusting views. I feel 331 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: like we just some people do just agree with. It's 332 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: like he's not even worth acknowledging, And so I chose 333 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: just to I was like, actually, you know what, I'm 334 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: not even going to waste my time answering to you, 335 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: like I actually owe you nothing. So that was what 336 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: I mean, like just getting that noise out. But he 337 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: has continued just to attack women and go on and 338 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: say things. And Lindall came on my pod and she 339 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: kind of she roasted him a little bit, but it was, 340 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't that bad. She was just talking 341 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: about her season of Maths and he obviously saw it. 342 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: And then he posted this thing about all the maps 343 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: me and the Maths brides being unmarriable because we're over 344 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: thirty and we're not in a relationship, which is a 345 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: whole you know, I don't even need to explain why 346 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: that's so far, But Tani and Linda they all started 347 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: calling him out and I was like, stop, because that's 348 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: what he wants. He has now gotten a reaction from you, 349 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: He's got an attention, you've shared your platform with him. 350 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: He's probably got more followers. He then got national media 351 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: coverage because every outlet then responded to you know, what 352 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: he had said, and it's then amplified to a large audience. 353 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: And there's some people out there that are going to 354 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: see that and agree. And so I started a group 355 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: chat with them and I'm like, guys, just stop acknowledging him. 356 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: This is what he wants and narcissist like that. The 357 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: thing that annoys them the most is if you don't 358 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: give them. 359 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: Attention, if you staff them of it, let them shout 360 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: off into the abyss. And for anyone listening the oxygen 361 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: right now, if you happen to have followed Dean or 362 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: Harrison or Jack Stop or even Bryce from past seasons, 363 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: and you just go and check whether you're still following them, 364 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: like have you actively unfollowed them? If you haven't, go 365 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: and do it right now. If you got your phone 366 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: near you go and do it right now. Unfollow these 367 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: kind of people because the best thing we can do 368 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: is to take the attention away from them. And if 369 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: they haven't got the followers that they want, that's just 370 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: the beginning. So if there's there's your little public service 371 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: announcement and homework for today. 372 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: Did you see Carrie Bigmore did that amazing video about 373 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: men's violence. He left some comments and everyone's been sending 374 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: it to me. I haven't even read it. I'm like, 375 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: I'd never want to know. 376 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 4: I don't care. Like it's just we know that he's 377 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: just the worst. 378 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: So and you know that. 379 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: Rice was the one of the worst I've ever seen 380 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: on that show, and he's turned out to be the 381 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: least worst of the four of them. 382 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: It's not funny. I mean, he's still I don't follow him. 383 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 3: I've got him, but I don't follow and don't know 384 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: what he's even. 385 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: I don't know that. But he's, as he says, as 386 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: little as possible. 387 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: He's kind of you know, I don't know whether he's 388 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: still just I mean, this is a long game. 389 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: If he's playing that, I told. 390 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: You, so this is the thing with Jack and Tory. 391 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: I think it's following the Bryce formula in terms of, like, 392 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: I look, I'm not in the relationship. I probably can't judge, 393 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: but I personally think that Bryce stayed with Melissa out 394 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: of spite to prove everyone wrong because there was so 395 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: much backlash. And it's like, if he ever broke up 396 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: with her, then it's we can say we were so 397 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: I told you so, so just saying her because it's oh, what. 398 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: Else can you do? 399 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: Absolutely, the really weird thing is people saying, oh, like 400 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: I even't just said it? Then, could someone be playing 401 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: a long game that high with the life. You've got 402 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: someone who is your slave, someone who's taking care of 403 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: you and doing everything that you want them to do. 404 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: There are so many. 405 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: Relationships like that happening anyway. Yeah, people who are in 406 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: relationships that are you know, I mean this is all allegedly, 407 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: but men who are cheating on their wives but not 408 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: ever leaving them because they get everything that they want. 409 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: They're getting it at home and they're getting it out 410 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: of home. 411 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 3: Well, these women as well, like just to generalize, you know, 412 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: women that are in toxic relationships sometimes I don't realize 413 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: that they are or like that they're treatment isn't normal, 414 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: that's right, And I think they've also obviously got like 415 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: insecurities that don't want to be alone. And that's the 416 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: whole thing of like it's society thinks it's so bad 417 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 3: for women over thirty or whatever to be not married, 418 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: and it's like this is a choice, Like we could 419 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: easily find a husband if we wanted to, but like, 420 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: I'm happy being alone and if someone if I'm going 421 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 3: to be in a relationship, they have to add to 422 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: my life. But then there's some women out there obviously 423 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: that don't want to be alone, like it's the worst 424 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 3: thing being alone, So they just put up with these 425 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: shitty relationships and treatment, and then I guess turn a 426 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: blind eye to the cheating and the absolute pason. 427 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: Because the you know, we're told from birth really as girls, 428 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: the best thing that you can get when you grow 429 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: up is married and have children, not ever being that's 430 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: the dream, not ever being told it's the nightmare, and 431 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: you get stuck in it, and it's a really hard 432 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: thing to get away from, and if you do, then 433 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: you're going to be crucified by the very people who've 434 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: told you that it's the dream. You're going to end 435 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: up alone and lonely with cats or dogs. It's like, 436 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: don't threaten me with a good time. 437 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 2: I'm living that life now and I could not be happier. 438 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: I went on someone's pod recently and it's a single 439 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: pod and she was like, you know, did you think 440 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: this for yourself? 441 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: And I said, of course not. Like as a child, 442 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: I remember. 443 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: Having those conversations with my girlfriends of who do you 444 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: think I'm going to marry? Okay, we'll say who you're 445 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: probably going to marry, and how many kids. 446 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: And the thing of like I want to be married 447 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: by the time I'm twenty five, I'm going to have 448 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: three kids. 449 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: Yes, And you know, when I was a two, I 450 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 1: wanted to have like a medieval style wedding. 451 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 4: Oh everyone's planning. 452 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've probably still got my like, oh my god, 453 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: a wedding plan from back then, and you pick your kids' 454 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: names out. 455 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: I used to draw medieval dresses with the big high 456 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: oh my lord, with the head, oh maybe with the 457 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: Princess Leiah type hairdoo, and oh could you imagine you. 458 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: Should just have a single like a wedding for yourself? 459 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: Like remember that in the City episode I always think 460 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: of that because me too, I'm like, I think I'm 461 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: going to get to a certain point where I'm going 462 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: to do that and be like, Okay, well I'm not 463 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: going to get married now, or like you know, if 464 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: I haven't found someone or I've decided not to and 465 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: just be like, you know, I'm just going to celebration 466 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: for me. 467 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: Have a registry. 468 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: I love well stupidly Sarah Jessica's carries was it Manolo 469 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: Blanik And there was only one thing on the registry? 470 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: But a registry for a. 471 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: Single woman would be a really great thing, all the 472 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: things that you don't get because you haven't gotten married. Okay, 473 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: this is the bit where we're going to talk about 474 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: domestic violence. Just coming in here quickly to let you know. 475 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: If this is something you don't want to listen to, 476 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: just go forward. 477 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: A couple of minutes. Do you ever get scared of 478 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: what of? Yeah? 479 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 4: Well I get scared. Had to run in my house 480 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 4: the other night screaming. 481 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: Seriously, No, I want. 482 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: To know, like, especially in the climate we live in 483 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: right now with men's violence, do you ever get scared 484 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: of the men coming after you? 485 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? 486 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: Because I would. It's a real fear. It's not it's 487 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: a rational fear. It's not irrational at all. 488 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: Well, the thing for me, it's like, I've been to 489 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: the police so many times, you know, with evidence. 490 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what I was going to say, you've 491 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: got you've got it all reported at least, and they're like, 492 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: it's there, it's somewhere. 493 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 4: But they don't do anything. 494 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: So no, I go to the police all the time 495 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: and I say, this person's harassing me and doing x 496 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: y zed and they say, just get off Instagram, just 497 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: get off social media. And I'm like, A, I shouldn't 498 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: have to know, and my whole work is on social media, 499 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: so I physically can't. And they said, well, there's nothing 500 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: we can do. They haven't done anything to you yet. 501 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: We can't do anything unless they actually do it. 502 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: Legally they can't, but so they can record everything. 503 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 3: There need to be protection in place before it gets 504 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: to something happening, not just we're going to be reactive. 505 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: We need to be proactive. 506 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: That's where we don't know what to do. The experts 507 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: don't know what to do. The victims don't know what 508 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: to do, because what do you do about saying to 509 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: the police, I'm scared of this person, and the police 510 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: are like, well have they done anything? No, but I 511 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: know they're going to well what if they don't, we 512 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: have to presume. 513 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 3: And I know that the police like obviously they are 514 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 3: answering to laws and there's only so much they can 515 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 3: do legally in it. That's not their fault. But you 516 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 3: almost get just pushed off as like she's being dramatic, 517 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: that she's over reacting. 518 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: That's got to change. 519 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: And the thing with the you know, all of these 520 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 3: murders of women and abuse and stuff that we're seeing lately, 521 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 3: that's hope, like everyone's talking about, thank God. And it's 522 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: always most of the times a known perpetrator or someone 523 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 3: who was out on an AVO or like known to police. Like, 524 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: it's always that type of person. And that's what I 525 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: was getting really triggered about recently, because I'm like, is 526 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: it going to take something to happen to me to 527 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: then be like I told you so, well. 528 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: That's that's exactly what's happening. So I'm thinking this is 529 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: me just thinking aloud. Now, if there was a registry 530 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: of say to say to a perpetrator, hey, we've now 531 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: registered you as someone who has done this, and this 532 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: and this from this woman. If this continues and it 533 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: goes again, you're going to be. 534 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 4: There should be there should be a registry of you. 535 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 3: People can look up prior offenses because or prior because 536 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: if unless you're like a reporter or you have access 537 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: to court documents, says no way that you can know 538 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: someone's criminal past. 539 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: Ye, So like I could. 540 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: Start dating a guy and not know that, yeah, five 541 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: women have taken AVOs out on him and I'm putting 542 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 3: myself into danger. 543 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: That would be really good. 544 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: But it's I just don't think it's a coincidence that 545 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: most of these cases, it's like known to police, already 546 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: took an av I already made a report, was already 547 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: fearing for her safety. 548 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 4: Like it's just what that needs. 549 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: To be done. 550 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: Part there, just that middle bit there. If the police 551 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: could somehow say the registry is now you know you're 552 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: getting I mean, I don't know, like you've got so 553 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: many stars or black stars against your black marks against 554 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: your name that now you're going to start getting fined. 555 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: I mean, people could. 556 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: Take advantage of that. But what I'm saying is what 557 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: happens when then something does happen? Because I just posted 558 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: about this this morning. What if we started charging the 559 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: people who ignore the police, like the judges and the 560 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: lee's who these women go to and don't take it seriously. 561 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: The women end up daring let them off too easy. 562 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: What if they had to go to jail as well 563 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: for not for not? There would be a lot more visits, 564 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: there'd be a lot more we're watching you. We're going 565 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: to start, well, maybe if there's a register of enough 566 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: proof where you've been stalking somewhere, where you've turned up 567 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: and you've harassed them, or you've been sending them really 568 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: bad texts, you have enough black marks against your name, 569 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: you have to start wearing that ankle bracelet. 570 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 4: A sign on your head. 571 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: What it is that I actually think that because the 572 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 3: punishment isn't big enough, No, we'll like say, get let 573 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 3: off so easily that they're not deterred from that's readings, right, 574 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: So I think the punishment needs to be increased and 575 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: it needs to be taken seriously of I think I 576 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 3: don't know what it is because it's like there's other punishments, 577 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: like even if you are found guilty of like abusing women, 578 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 3: like sometimes it's like, oh, good behavior bonds exactly has 579 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: to change. They know that they can get away with it, 580 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: and they know that they're probably nothing's going to happen. 581 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 3: And also it's very hard to prove, like there's just 582 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: so many factors that yeah. 583 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: Is really hard. 584 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 4: Well that's a crime in the UK now, and. 585 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: It's a crime here is that Yeah, it's just become 586 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: that's good, But it's really hard to prove that. Well, 587 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: that's the thing is that may be an easier one 588 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: to prove simply because you've got text messages, you've got 589 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: bank you know, financial Well, that's the verbal stuff. You'd 590 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: have to start recording. We have to change the law 591 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: of people being allowed to be recorded without their permission 592 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: if they're if they're doing a crime. 593 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: Don't want to say it's ain't really crazy. So I 594 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: was in a domestic violence situation before and I filmed 595 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: the like, I started getting verbally abuse, so I was 596 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: pressed record on my phone to film the video. I 597 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: had a video of this person abusing me verbally physically 598 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: and then smashing my so my they got my phone 599 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: and smashed it on the door into like a thousand pieces. 600 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: There was a witness there with me, so like my 601 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: building manager had come in and I gave that footage 602 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: to the police and the person like when I went 603 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 3: to court about it, they were charged and found guilty, 604 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: but I then got put up on the stand and 605 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: questioned as if I was the person that had done wrong. 606 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: I got grilled and I was like so nervous, like 607 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 3: I probably didn't answer the questions well enough because it 608 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: just was so triggering for me. But there was a 609 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: point in the thing where they got let off on 610 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: one charge because they said they couldn't prove it. It 611 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 3: was the physical assaults. There was, you know, various things, 612 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 3: but one of the physical assault things are like, we 613 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: can't prove that those bruises were caused from that thing, 614 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: And I was like, I've got a video of them 615 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 3: hitting me. Well, I didn't do anything else like that 616 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: could have got me bruises like that. And then the phone, 617 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 3: the smashing of the phone as well, Oh, it could 618 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 3: have already been smashed. We can't prove that even though 619 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: we've got a video of them smashing it on the wall, 620 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: we can't prove that that damage was because of like 621 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 3: it's so hard to even if you have that physical proof. 622 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 4: And I had a witness there. 623 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: So that's where judges have to change. The judges need 624 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: to say it is very clear that. 625 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: You put those bruises on her, and it is very 626 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: clear that you smashed her phone. Well they need to 627 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: start leaving the victims more in that sense. 628 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, these perpetrators don't get convicted because yes, 629 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: they probably did it, and there's proof and stuff, but 630 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: it's not enough to be one hundred percent you did 631 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 3: this without a doubt, which is hard because it's like 632 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: what more proof can I You don't always have proof. 633 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 3: You're not always going to be able to prove stuff, 634 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 3: like to the nth degree. So I think the burden, 635 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: the burden kind of needs to be less. But then 636 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: you don't want innocent people going away. 637 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: But how many. 638 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: Times that's happening anyway? And that's what you know? You 639 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: get a jury, and that's very different. A jury can 640 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: send an innocent person to jail, not with the beyond 641 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: reasonable doubt. They are like, we think he did it, 642 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: we think she did it, So you're in for life mate. 643 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: One judge compared to a heap, like you can't. Humans 644 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: are so fallible, Like how can you give one judge 645 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: all that judgment? How can you give a jury of 646 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: people who have no expertise legal world at all. 647 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 4: Know that their legal system is an absolute joke? 648 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. 649 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: Things have really got to change, you know, and us 650 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: saying what do we do? 651 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: What do we do? Maybe that's where. 652 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: We start changing the legal system, changing the onus of proof. 653 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: You have to prove that you didn't abuse them, Yeah, 654 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: us having to prove that you did. 655 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: I would just like to. 656 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: Say to any young people that are listening, don't get 657 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: into that relationship. If you feel a red flag or 658 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: if someone around you has a really weird feeling for you, 659 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: go with that instead, because your future is really awful. 660 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: And by the time you get to that point of 661 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: clarity of oh my god, I mean way over my 662 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: head here, so many things have been taken from you physically, mentally, 663 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: emotionally that could have really been avoided if we just 664 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: start telling young people how much more they're worth. You 665 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: know that, boys, Oh he hits you because he likes you, 666 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: or mean to you because he really likes you. 667 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: Oh, it's really cute. Stop that. 668 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: Immediately he hits you, get away from him. If he's 669 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: mean to you, get away from him. Don't ever talk 670 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: to him again, until he has respect for you, until 671 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: he's kind to you. 672 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: But you start saying that to young girls. I remember 673 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: being told that as a kid. 674 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: I think as well, like women not that it's our fault, 675 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: because you know, this is just what society has trained 676 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: us to do. But women like excusing men's bad behavior 677 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 3: or accepting it also like disadvantages the rest of us 678 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 3: because then the men think that they can also do it. 679 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 3: But if like we were all like unified and we're like, 680 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: as a whole collective of women, we are not going 681 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: to put up with this behavior, they wouldn't actually be 682 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: able to do it. But then then there's some women 683 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: that are like letting the team down because it's like 684 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: I'm going to accept it. I know a good exact 685 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: that's a pick me yes. So that's like it's just 686 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: making the standard because it's like, oh, well, I'm going 687 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 3: to find a woman that will accept it. And then 688 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: another thing I think is like believing women like when 689 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 3: they are brave enough to come forward. Obviously, I recently 690 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: did a story on Ridge from Maps this season and 691 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: two of his eck well, actually there was about six exes, 692 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: but this particular story, there was two x's that came 693 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: forward gave me a statement on the record. They didn't 694 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: want to be named because they were like, I just 695 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: don't want my name out there. I want to be 696 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: I'm a private But they were on the record statements 697 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 3: of you know, cheating, abuse, all of this stuff, and 698 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: we were doing we put the story out there, and 699 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 3: people in the comments are going, this is fake. 700 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 4: I don't believe it. Where's your proof? 701 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: And I was like, I have two women on records 702 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: saying that this happened to them. I don't know what 703 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: other proof do you want, Like unless I was in 704 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: the room when you know they were having sex, like 705 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: and I filmed it. There's like, that's as good as 706 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: it's going to get. 707 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: Wouldn't we believe them? 708 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: It's just our default too, it is we need to 709 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: see proof otherwise why I don't believe a girl. I 710 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: don't believe that a guy would do that. It's like 711 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: a We're seeing it happen so much, why are you 712 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 3: not believing it? And I just think it's so important 713 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 3: to believe women when they do speak out. Ridge's girlfriends 714 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: as well. Current girlfriend Jade from the show she Like, 715 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: made a comment slamming this ex that had spoken out, 716 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: and I was so annoyed because I was like, these 717 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: women are help, trying to help you. They are speaking 718 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: out about what happened to them so that you don't 719 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: have to go through what they did, and you're choosing 720 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: not to listen to them. 721 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 722 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that feeling of Oxy's tocin love is 723 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: very strong. I mean I remember it as a teenager myself. 724 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: I was obsessed with who I was crushing on, obsessed 725 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: so much so that you know, they could do anything, 726 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: say anything, didn't matter because I was just so in 727 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: love with the good of them, even if it wasn't 728 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: didn't last for very long. I mean, it just happens 729 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: to so many And that's what we've got to get 730 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: him young, because if we don't teach kids, girl kids 731 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: to say no, get away from. 732 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: Me, self love confidence, Yeah, then. 733 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: When do we teach them. I want to end on 734 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: this Believe women, Believe women. 735 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, amen, thank you for coming in again, Thank you 736 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: for having me coming to you this time next year. 737 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 4: Put in the diary regular. 738 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: It'll be after the season, after you've had a bit 739 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: of a sleep. 740 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: No, I'm uncontactable from like unless you're a mass contestant 741 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: from jan to April. I'm like, I don't apply to anyone. 742 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's still April. No it's not. It's May. So 743 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: I see you next May. 744 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 4: Do you have coffee on my face, on your face, 745 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 4: on my lips? 746 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: No? Do you often get coffee on your face? 747 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? The other day I got home and I had 748 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: like a chocolate here, and I was like, walking around, Oh, 749 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 3: maybe just look like dark liplighter though, and. 750 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: I looked like Pooh. You had Pooh on your face.