WEBVTT - Oustiders | 25 August

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<v Speaker 1>Lo, this is outside. Good morning, What a fantastic day.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got so much to talk about. Welcome to Outsiders

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<v Speaker 1>the show that is to woke virtue signally and identity

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<v Speaker 1>politics on steroids.

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<v Speaker 2>What the Prime.

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<v Speaker 1>Minister of Australia is to the word negativity?

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<v Speaker 3>What I see is his relentless negativity aloate.

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<v Speaker 1>The copy and the negativity to those open to a

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<v Speaker 1>more negativity underpeated Dutton.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of negativity, what do young folk think of Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 5>Look at these vox pops? I vote for Trump?

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<v Speaker 6>Off for Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 7>For Trump?

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<v Speaker 8>Who are you voting for?

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<v Speaker 9>In twenty twenty four? That man? He the best president ever.

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<v Speaker 10>Has Barack Obama done anything for around here?

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<v Speaker 8>And he's ever did anything since he been in office?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and I'm glad he got Trump the.

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<v Speaker 11>Past Barack Obama. Thank I no mesicetal, I don't mess

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<v Speaker 11>with Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah No, I'm a Trump supporter trying to do more

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<v Speaker 1>for black people.

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<v Speaker 11>Don't care more about black people?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, that's of course his opinion that he's entitled to it.

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<v Speaker 12>But while we're at it, let's see if we can

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<v Speaker 12>find out what Kamala Harris's supporters who this is a

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<v Speaker 12>good one. Believe her greatest achievements as Vice president to

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<v Speaker 12>have been.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your favorite accomplishment of hers as VP in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States?

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<v Speaker 6>Honestly, I can't answer that question, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 13>I can't really say specifically, I kid, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 13>home over here.

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<v Speaker 9>I can't think of anything, you know, specifically, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, yes, well, we'll be talking about that later.

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<v Speaker 1>But now, as Albo struggles with the negative, negative, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>the negativity of last night's Northern Territory landslide vote against labor.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's grab the latest outside of his news.

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<v Speaker 1>So last night, huge night here in Australia where the

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Territory government, the Labor government, was turfed out in

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<v Speaker 1>a massive tidal wave against labor.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what a surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only two weeks ago that there was Albo

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<v Speaker 1>up in the Northern Territory at the Gama Festival banging

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<v Speaker 1>on about how he was going to make the future

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<v Speaker 1>bright for Indigenous Australians with renewable energy and climate change dogma.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only a week or so ago that they were

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<v Speaker 1>shutting down uranium mines in the Northern Territory and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get onto the gold miner New South Wales as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But here we have, in my opinion, a four taste

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<v Speaker 1>of the tsunami that will sweep labor from power nationally

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<v Speaker 1>because people have had enough of this labor government. And

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<v Speaker 1>we saw that last night in the Northern Territory retail

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<v Speaker 1>we did.

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<v Speaker 4>Even the Chief Minister lost her seat, so that is

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<v Speaker 4>a very poor result. Indeed, how much of it is

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<v Speaker 4>local issues? Obviously they've got all sorts of localized problems there,

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<v Speaker 4>but obviously what's happening across the country, it's also relevant.

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<v Speaker 4>They're the cost of living crisis. They've got a significant

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<v Speaker 4>crime issue, youth crime, but again not limited to the NT.

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<v Speaker 4>We're seeing that parts of Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland.

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<v Speaker 4>So this I think the labor governments, whether they state,

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<v Speaker 4>territory or federal, need to wake up to what is

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<v Speaker 4>happening there. They can't just be in their own little

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<v Speaker 4>circle with their media mates thinking everything's going along swimmingly,

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<v Speaker 4>because people are hurting.

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<v Speaker 5>And things have changed.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a time when you would get a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of terms to show what you're capable of. Now people

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<v Speaker 4>will judge you a little bit more harshly, and second

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<v Speaker 4>term is not guaranteed even if you've uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 12>Well more than that, you know, it's really interesting that

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<v Speaker 12>issue of law and order in the Northern territory. This

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<v Speaker 12>is basically the prologue to the Queensland election. In the

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<v Speaker 12>Queensland election regional centers in Queensland, everybody is absolutely up

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<v Speaker 12>to their eyeball sick of the crime problem, the youth

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<v Speaker 12>crime problem. And it's fascinating watching the reaction of the

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<v Speaker 12>left media commentators on this. They've all said, oh, Labor

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<v Speaker 12>lost in the NT because they tried to out law

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<v Speaker 12>and order the concern and it's ridiculous. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 12>a complete illustration of how utterly out of touch the

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<v Speaker 12>people who are giving advice to the Labor Party are.

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<v Speaker 12>These are people who live mostly in progressive electorates. They

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<v Speaker 12>are not dealing with the sort of crimes that you

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<v Speaker 12>deal with in a place like Alice Spring or in

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<v Speaker 12>Townsville in Queensland, you know, and that sort of lawlessness.

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<v Speaker 12>And so they're saying, oh, no, no, keep running to

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<v Speaker 12>the left and think the same people, by the way,

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<v Speaker 12>who always tell the Liberals run to the left, be moderately.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, this is the thing, and it shows the

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<v Speaker 12>disconnect between the political class and everybody else who actually

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<v Speaker 12>are really sensible in this country. They want simple things.

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<v Speaker 12>They want no they want crime taking care of, they

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<v Speaker 12>want criminals locked up, they want the cost of living affordable.

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<v Speaker 12>And when people get us away from that, whether they're

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<v Speaker 12>moderates on the liberal side or labor, which is supposed

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<v Speaker 12>to defend the interests of ordinary people, or at least

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<v Speaker 12>it used to, this is the result you get. It's

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<v Speaker 12>a smashing result for the conservatives in the NT. It

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<v Speaker 12>prefigures what's going to happen in Queensland. And this is

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<v Speaker 12>a huge wake up call to Anthony Albanisi, who must

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<v Speaker 12>be looking at this and thinking, you know, we got

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<v Speaker 12>some real trouble here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, i'll tell you for something, We'll have a look

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<v Speaker 1>into second at evil Layl or the label leader who's

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<v Speaker 1>wiped out. But let me tell you, Albanize, he's finished.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a disaster. This is the shock waves still reverberating

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<v Speaker 1>from the Voice Albanese. He took the voice as his

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<v Speaker 1>signature policy. He said, here we go. Even the Northern

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<v Speaker 1>Territory turfed it out and said no, we're not interested

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<v Speaker 1>in this. Virtue signaling identity politics, which does nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>solve crime and order, which has nothing to help people's lives,

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<v Speaker 1>which is all about labor telling us we're all races.

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<v Speaker 2>So where sexist or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Labor, you are completely on the nose around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the warning you're going to topple one

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<v Speaker 1>election after the next.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't wait for the federal election. Bring it on.

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<v Speaker 1>As I've been saying for over a year. Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 1>will be the next Prime minister of this country. And

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<v Speaker 1>the other biggest star, of course, was just Enter Price,

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<v Speaker 1>who the Northern Territory recognizes one of the great politicians

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<v Speaker 1>in this country and she is a future prime minister.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a disaster for labor to get all the

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<v Speaker 1>nonsense you hear about labour saying this was local issues. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was local issues brought on by the Albanesi government,

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<v Speaker 1>by the voice by Renewables, bysing around at Garma talking nonsense,

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<v Speaker 1>painting your face instead of solving the problems that everyday

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<v Speaker 1>Australian's face.

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<v Speaker 2>Australian do not want to be divided by race.

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<v Speaker 1>Scrap all this identity politics, so scrap the welcome scatch, Scrap.

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<v Speaker 2>The acknowledgments and let's get back to being one nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's have a listen to Evil Lawler, the failed

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<v Speaker 1>Labor leader, giving her farewell speech. It's the foretaste of

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<v Speaker 1>the Albow one that's yet to come, and the Queensland

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<v Speaker 1>one as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 14>Unfortunately we haven't got over the line tonight. It looks

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<v Speaker 14>like I've lost my seat. And I know some of

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<v Speaker 14>our great, great candidates and great members have also lost

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<v Speaker 14>their seat as well tonight. So a sad night, absolutely

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<v Speaker 14>sad night for labor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, takenight of that later, Albo, write that down because

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<v Speaker 1>that will be your speech in a few months time.

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<v Speaker 2>Rita, that's quite a prediction.

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<v Speaker 5>That is a bold one.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the predictions proved me wrong.

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<v Speaker 9>I will be right.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I will be wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>You've been right more then you've been wrong on these predictions.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got to say someone's up putting bet song or

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<v Speaker 4>that we would recommend any sort of gambling. But no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>we can't have that. But you're so right about the

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<v Speaker 4>advice Labor take. But sadly it's the sort of advice

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<v Speaker 4>state liberals have taken for too long, as will including

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<v Speaker 4>in Victoria. The first time Matthew Guy lost election, the

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<v Speaker 4>analysis post that was all about or they went too

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<v Speaker 4>hard on lawd order. They were blaming that instead of

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<v Speaker 4>everything else. It was the one conservative policy they had

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<v Speaker 4>that was responsible, not everything else. So and I think

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<v Speaker 4>this is the political class, the media class, the activist class.

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<v Speaker 4>They are all in a little circle together. They all

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<v Speaker 4>sort of affirm each other's warped views and opinions on things,

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<v Speaker 4>and the rest of the country has to deal with

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<v Speaker 4>the fallout.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, this is the thing, I mean, this is this

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<v Speaker 12>is where we are. You know, Australia has, for as

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<v Speaker 12>long as I have lived here twenty years, twenty five years,

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<v Speaker 12>been a center right nation. It was that way for

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<v Speaker 12>a long long time. That's where the political center of

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<v Speaker 12>this country. And for just as long the political classes

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<v Speaker 12>try to wish in existence, literally wish cast this idea

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<v Speaker 12>that somehow where this whole sort of progressive sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 9>We saw it with the voice, you know, so with

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<v Speaker 9>that we see it.

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<v Speaker 12>But we see every time we see political leaders within

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<v Speaker 12>parties falling for it. I'll tell you something. Living here

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<v Speaker 12>in New South Wales, the New South Wales lives exil

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<v Speaker 12>for this hook line and seeker, and that's why they

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<v Speaker 12>are in such an absolute mess and absolute mess to

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<v Speaker 12>the point now where they're unable to get even people

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<v Speaker 12>to be on the local government election ballots, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>in a few weeks time. It's just a mess for

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<v Speaker 12>these people because they ignore what people care about. They

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<v Speaker 12>care about cheap energy, low crime, you know, getting their

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<v Speaker 12>kids to good schools where they're taught real useful things,

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<v Speaker 12>not to hate their country and the lives. When they

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<v Speaker 12>go all moderate and squishy, they're trying to appeal to

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<v Speaker 12>this class of people that hate them, that would never

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<v Speaker 12>vote for them on a bet, and they say, oh, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 12>please like me, when the people they want to be

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<v Speaker 12>liked by should we want to be liked by, are

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<v Speaker 12>the voters.

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<v Speaker 9>And it's very simple.

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<v Speaker 4>Form absolutely voice doesn't bring this home to all of them.

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<v Speaker 4>No matter how inept you are, have blind you are

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<v Speaker 4>to the obvious. We had a referendum, and the country,

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<v Speaker 4>all the country except the Act, which is besizes that

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<v Speaker 4>the people we're talking about all the country voted emphatically no.

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<v Speaker 4>And that tells you where the politics of this country is.

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<v Speaker 4>There's not an issue that you can think of in

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<v Speaker 4>the last.

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<v Speaker 5>Decade or two.

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<v Speaker 4>That exposes Australia's political spectrum more clearly than that Voice referendum, because.

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<v Speaker 1>People absolutely and this election was part two that. It

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<v Speaker 1>was goodbye to Gama, it was Valet voice, it was

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<v Speaker 1>Todlu truth telling, it was goodbye all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we please drive over to Sydney Harbor Regency and

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<v Speaker 1>Australian flag only up there for once? Please, that's an

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<v Speaker 1>example of how it lives in New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 12>Completely sorry, Let's sorry what the Australian flag and the

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<v Speaker 12>New South Wales flame?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely there is?

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<v Speaker 9>What's it?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have listened to Leo Finucciaro, the new Leader of

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<v Speaker 1>the Northern Territory, Chief Minister up there now issues.

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<v Speaker 15>This result represents a turning point in the territory's future.

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<v Speaker 5>Territorians have used.

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<v Speaker 15>Their voice to stand up against labor who have taken

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<v Speaker 15>them for granted for far too long. Territorians have stood

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<v Speaker 15>up against nearly two decades of escalating crime and economy

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<v Speaker 15>going backwards and the erosion of our once iconic lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she's the new Chief Minister up there. She's got

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<v Speaker 1>a huge shob in her hands. That crime needs sorting out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure they will get to grips with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's just Center Price talking about the election last night.

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<v Speaker 16>I think off the back of the Voice, I think

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<v Speaker 16>now that Northern Territory is delivered a country Liberal Party government,

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<v Speaker 16>I think the coalition we can be quite confident in

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<v Speaker 16>going toward the next federal election.

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<v Speaker 2>This for us is the coalition.

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<v Speaker 16>This election win is an absolute godsend because it tells

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<v Speaker 16>us that we're on the right track, We're addressing the

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<v Speaker 16>issues that Australians are bringing forward to us.

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<v Speaker 1>And just into prices of course a complete god send

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<v Speaker 1>as well to the Liberal Party and to Australia. She

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<v Speaker 1>is a future prime minister. That is not even a

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<v Speaker 1>bold prediction. That's a take that one to the bank.

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<v Speaker 5>Read that one. Well, I'm still going to make a

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<v Speaker 5>small bet, you know what.

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<v Speaker 4>She is the most consequential politician we've had for some time,

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<v Speaker 4>because I do genuinely believe if she wasn't in the

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<v Speaker 4>National Party, they wouldn't have come out so quickly against

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<v Speaker 4>the Voice and put pressure on the Liberals too. Also

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<v Speaker 4>because there was a lot of conjecture the Liberals are

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<v Speaker 4>going to run dead on it, and god knows where

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<v Speaker 4>we would be right now, if we didn't have the coalition.

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<v Speaker 1>And center of the federal election campaign, no question, and

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to if you want to win, Dott and

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<v Speaker 1>you do.

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<v Speaker 12>That, James, Oh well yeah, and look again, it is

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<v Speaker 12>just about finding that sensible place where everybody is just enter.

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<v Speaker 12>Price absolutely nails that. And that's and she is real

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<v Speaker 12>reconciliation in action, not this nonsense. He does a voice

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<v Speaker 12>which was trying to divide everybody up and use identity

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<v Speaker 12>politics to control everybody, because that's ultimately what this is about.

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<v Speaker 12>It's all the left wing politics is always about anti democracy.

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<v Speaker 12>It's always about control and setting everybody against each other.

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<v Speaker 12>She's right, she knows how it works, she knows how

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<v Speaker 12>poison poisonous it is. She should absolutely have a front

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<v Speaker 12>and center rolling. I'll tell you what. You're right about

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<v Speaker 12>the Nationals too, because the Nats are another one of

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<v Speaker 12>those parties where you know, there's a few Pitt Street farmers,

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<v Speaker 12>you know in that mom there, especially in especially in

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<v Speaker 12>the New South Wales division. You know, the New South

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<v Speaker 12>Wales Nationals been a disaster, They've been completely taken over.

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<v Speaker 12>But you know this is again, this is how you win.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now, listen, reach is going to tell us now,

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<v Speaker 1>how meanwhile down in Victoria, completely ignoring the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>real Australia is spoken yet again in an election. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think the nutcases down in Victoria are doing

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<v Speaker 1>in the labor government there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, let me think, Rita, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>They're very interested in hosting the Gay Games. Now they

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<v Speaker 4>are bidding for the game and they've been shortlisteds.

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<v Speaker 5>Happy news to Victoria's.

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<v Speaker 2>The same mob who couldn't do the Commonwealth.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, is to do the Gay Game because.

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<v Speaker 5>We won the Commonwealth Games.

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<v Speaker 4>We spent a lot of money and then suddenly oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>our figures were all wrong. We actually kind of fought

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<v Speaker 4>to hold this event, ended up costing the state around

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<v Speaker 4>six hundred million, around four hundred million going to compensation

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<v Speaker 4>to the Commonwealth Game organizers. And now just a few

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<v Speaker 4>months later we're bidding for I didn't know that we're

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<v Speaker 4>a gay Games, but there are. So of course this

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<v Speaker 4>is mocked, and I think Victorians are getting sick of

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<v Speaker 4>being mocked, being the laughing stock of the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the country and sometimes the rest of the world when

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<v Speaker 4>that needs That's.

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<v Speaker 12>An interesting point here too, because you know, it really

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<v Speaker 12>shows this shows I think to me the real tension

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<v Speaker 12>where the left is because if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 12>you know the Andrews government. Oh no, the Commonwealth, that's fusty.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all.

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<v Speaker 9>But this is the whole sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, there's this really concerned effort by the left

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<v Speaker 12>to shift what the public imagery is, what the things

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<v Speaker 12>are that we care about, and they want to downgrade

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<v Speaker 12>the Commonwealth, but they want to put sexuality and alternative

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<v Speaker 12>sexualities front and center. This is all part of a

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<v Speaker 12>much bigger program to undermine traditional things in our society.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's talk about the how many easy governments ongoing

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<v Speaker 1>shambles with.

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<v Speaker 2>Visas and ghars and visas. Now here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Alban Easy does not want to talk about this under

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<v Speaker 1>any circumstances whatsoever because it is the major embarrassment.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the big one, the big one.

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<v Speaker 1>That we'll see the Albanese government swept rightly from power

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<v Speaker 1>allowing you know, three thousand up to three thousand tourists.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a tourist visas coming in from Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a graphia I want to show you which

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<v Speaker 1>shows the Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>Visas issued by country.

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<v Speaker 1>There are all the countries along the bottom you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to know which one is Australia. There, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>global in. You know who's letting gardens in around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a sensible discussion to have here. Firstly, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see any Arab or Muslim nations taking many gas and

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<v Speaker 1>not many but the biggest and tell us reader about

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<v Speaker 1>the big scandal of how these visas came about.

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<v Speaker 4>They try to have the easiest way to get people here,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a tourist visa because typically a tourist doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>have that many checks done, so you can process them

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<v Speaker 4>very quickly. And uh, and we've got to just acknowledge

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<v Speaker 4>this entire little catastrophe is Anthony Albanese's self inflicted. God,

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<v Speaker 4>nobody asked him to do this. Pressure from their segments,

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<v Speaker 4>of some of their electorates.

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<v Speaker 5>I know all the activists class, we know that.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is the Prime minister and he could have

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<v Speaker 4>held strong here and said no.

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<v Speaker 1>That is going to hold straws.

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<v Speaker 12>This This is seriously though, this is a real scandal.

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<v Speaker 12>This is because they are literally playing with national security

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<v Speaker 12>and public safety for votes. Peter Dutt nailed it this week.

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<v Speaker 12>This was a visus for votes scandal. This is what

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<v Speaker 12>this is all about. This is shoring up support with

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<v Speaker 12>Muslim populations in Western City, in Melbourne, some of these

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<v Speaker 12>key seats where people like Tony Burke who is now

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<v Speaker 12>the Home Affairs Minister, So the Home Affairs Minister represents

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<v Speaker 12>a seat that has one of the highest Muslim populations

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<v Speaker 12>in the country. Now making the decision to give tourist

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<v Speaker 12>visas and pushing through with that decision to grant tourist

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<v Speaker 12>visas to people coming out of Gaza, well, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 12>you what. They come here on tourist visas and you

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<v Speaker 12>know what's going to happen. Then they apply for refugee

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<v Speaker 12>status and no matter what happens, Gaza could be rebuilt

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<v Speaker 12>into Singapore, they will never leave because this is what happens.

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<v Speaker 12>Once people file these claims, it is almost impossible to

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<v Speaker 12>get them out of the country. The number of deportations

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<v Speaker 12>that happens every month in Homeland Affairs figures it's around

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<v Speaker 12>a dozen if that, so it's a tiny number. And

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<v Speaker 12>this though, you know, these are people who are coming

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<v Speaker 12>from a population where the majority support aprove approve of

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<v Speaker 12>what October seventh was all about. These are and you know,

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<v Speaker 12>you had people like Mark Bert say, oh, well, as

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<v Speaker 12>long as it's just rhetorical support, the biggest absolute disgrace,

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<v Speaker 12>And we look at what happens around the world, the

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<v Speaker 12>idea that we would play with this at all just

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<v Speaker 12>to shore up votes, and it tells you how badly his.

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<v Speaker 9>Internal polls are. Right now, by the way you do it.

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<v Speaker 4>We only need one person out of the thousands.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct to do anything violent.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think they're jumping at shadows that. This is

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<v Speaker 4>what I don't understand. Do they fear that, Does Tony

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<v Speaker 4>Burke think his seat's going to go to a coalition?

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<v Speaker 4>And I know, at worst there might be a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of independents who get up in these seats.

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<v Speaker 5>Unlikely, but I think they are actually committing to policies

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<v Speaker 5>to try to appease an angry voter base that isn't

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<v Speaker 5>going to be appeased by these policies.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's worse.

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<v Speaker 1>We can never forget that labor, the top people in labor,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact whole labor, but the top people in labor

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<v Speaker 1>are all basically student undergraduates from Sydney Universe in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Their views have not shifted from them. Israel bad. Anything

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<v Speaker 2>with the Palestinian flag or whatever it is good must

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<v Speaker 2>be good.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the thinking. It's no deeper than that, it

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<v Speaker 1>goes no deeper than that. And then they have fools

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<v Speaker 1>like the Teals running around saying, oh, let's get more

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<v Speaker 1>Australian tax dollars going to ANWAH.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the letter which I like to show that the Teals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the Teals remember this at the election, folks, the

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<v Speaker 1>Teals all sign this letter. There are all that signatures, Allegraspender,

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Cheney.

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<v Speaker 2>All of them. They all want more so money going

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<v Speaker 2>to ANWA.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, by the way, we now learn

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<v Speaker 1>there is a law case in America, a lawsuit alleging

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<v Speaker 1>that Anwah led a billion dollar money laundering scheme to

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<v Speaker 1>help amass in the run up to October seventh. So

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, Teals, great work. Hope you're proud of

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<v Speaker 1>those signatures. And the Albanzi government should hang its head

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<v Speaker 1>in shame. We do not want to put not only

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<v Speaker 1>our entire population, but our Jewish population, our Jewish kids,

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<v Speaker 1>being terrified of what we are letting into the country

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<v Speaker 1>when we do not need to.

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<v Speaker 12>And remember point Rowan that after October seventh, the federal

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<v Speaker 12>government failed to lead on anti Semitism. The absolutely failed

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<v Speaker 12>to lead on this. Anthony Albanize had to be dragged

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<v Speaker 12>out of the Northern Territory where he was campaigning for

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<v Speaker 12>the Voice to come and speak treasure in Melbourne. Remember this,

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<v Speaker 12>when you know, Richie Sunek and other leaders around the

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<v Speaker 12>world had already gone and addressed their Jewish communities. This,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, immediately from the start of this sent the

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<v Speaker 12>message and they said, oh, well, you know there's an

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<v Speaker 12>anti Semitism, but there's also Islamophobia. You know, well really okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 12>but this sort of both sizing it and this lack

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<v Speaker 12>of leadership, that's where that allowed seats like Tony Burks

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<v Speaker 12>to start to fester on this issue. And it shows

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<v Speaker 12>that now they're having to backfill there because those seats,

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<v Speaker 12>those Western Sydney seats, these are the seats where Albanzi's

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<v Speaker 12>other policies, energy inflation, the cost of living are hurting

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<v Speaker 12>the hardest. And so now they're trying to backfill by

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<v Speaker 12>giving a sop to the gaza issue rather than dealing

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<v Speaker 12>with the issues that are hurting everybody, these very you know,

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<v Speaker 12>working class of lower income suburbs that are really suffering

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<v Speaker 12>and struggling under the alban easy Albanomics.

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<v Speaker 4>If you are basing your vote primarily on the Gaza

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<v Speaker 4>Israel war, not going to back anybody other than left

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<v Speaker 4>leaning parties. So who are they scared of losing these

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<v Speaker 4>seats to because they're not going to back the Greens because,

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<v Speaker 4>like you mentioned, when it comes to other policy areas,

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<v Speaker 4>the Greens are reprehensible to.

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<v Speaker 5>This voter base.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't they're not on board with any of that

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<v Speaker 4>sort of fringe dwelling stuff when it comes to gender

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<v Speaker 4>and all sorts of other cultural issues. So what are

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<v Speaker 4>they trying to save?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is.

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<v Speaker 9>They're concerned about.

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<v Speaker 12>They're concerned about, like you know, they're very burned by

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<v Speaker 12>what happened in Fowler in Western Sydney where Dailey came.

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<v Speaker 5>In as had a uniquely bad, uniquely.

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<v Speaker 9>Bad candidate there.

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<v Speaker 12>But also they're concerned I think that you know, there

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<v Speaker 12>could be a Muslim independence but be also that the

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<v Speaker 12>vote gets split because the coalition has said we are

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<v Speaker 12>going to make a big push for Western Sydney seats

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<v Speaker 12>and that's all about the cost of not.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying for those who are basing their votes primarily

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<v Speaker 4>on this issue, not sub living, not energy costs, not

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<v Speaker 4>everything else, crime, then you're not going to vote for

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<v Speaker 4>the coalition if you are if you think labor hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>been cap on Israel. So again this jumping at shadows

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<v Speaker 4>and then causing themselves enormous political harm in the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of the country and putting the country in danger.

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<v Speaker 5>This is what I can't understand with Anthony Albanesi. Is

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<v Speaker 5>the leader of.

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<v Speaker 4>Australia's number one priority is the safety and the well

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<v Speaker 4>being of Australians number one.

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<v Speaker 5>Nothing else should breach that.

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<v Speaker 12>We should really be having a discussion about what, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>what our broader immigration policy looks like, and you know,

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<v Speaker 12>bringing in people who are going to contribute and make

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<v Speaker 12>sure that they bring positive things and improve the country

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<v Speaker 12>and want to be Australians. And that's really we need

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<v Speaker 12>to have much more of a conversation about that because

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<v Speaker 12>much more broadly, I think we're lost on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've got time now to look at Europe and

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<v Speaker 1>Britain and what has happened with immigration to those countries.

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<v Speaker 1>We should be learning from that rather than replicating it.

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<v Speaker 1>And irony of ironies, I mean this is a tragic story.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've just heard of a stabbing yet another terrorist

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<v Speaker 1>Islamist isisation responsibility. That's Islamic state taking responsibly responsibility for

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<v Speaker 1>a knife attack in Germany. And guess where it took place?

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<v Speaker 1>At a diversity festival. Yes, a left wing diversity festival.

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<v Speaker 1>The ironies abound, but this is what you get if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not prepared. As James said and Rider said, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to have a proper sensible debate on immigration, what

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<v Speaker 1>it means economically, and what it means for our national security,

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<v Speaker 1>and who and who not should be allowed into this country.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take short break when we come up Ritter's

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<v Speaker 1>Reality Check.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait.

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<v Speaker 4>You're watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan x Y Chromezone.

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<v Speaker 4>Dean James identifies as male Morrow and I'm Ruda Panahee

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<v Speaker 4>pronouns Persian and princess.

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<v Speaker 5>You must respect them.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up next will be speaking to the woman at

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<v Speaker 4>the center of a critical court judgment which is being

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<v Speaker 4>mocked internationally and has far reaching consequences for women in Australia.

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<v Speaker 5>But first, this week we had members.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the Teals hold a press conference to decry poor

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<v Speaker 4>parliamentary behavior.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, these entitled.

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<v Speaker 4>Women who represents some of the richest electorates in the

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<v Speaker 4>country and who are essentially bystanders in the lower House

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<v Speaker 4>where their votes are largely irrelevant. Well they're unhappy again

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<v Speaker 4>and everyone must know about it.

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<v Speaker 5>These are overly precious souls.

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<v Speaker 4>Lashed out at Coalition and Labor MPs over what they

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<v Speaker 4>claim is unacceptable behavior. First up is that the Member

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<v Speaker 4>for Ringer, Zalie Stegel, who displayed a complete lack of

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<v Speaker 4>self awareness given just last week she called Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 4>racist in the chamber before withdrawing the comment, only to

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<v Speaker 4>repeat it on.

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<v Speaker 5>Sky News later on the same day.

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<v Speaker 4>But here she is demanding that the leaders of the Labor,

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<v Speaker 4>National and Liberal parties set a higher standard.

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<v Speaker 17>Stop it at the top. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 17>we hear a lot of talk about commitment to better standards,

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<v Speaker 17>better behavior, but that can only be modeled by the leadership.

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<v Speaker 17>All those MPs take their que from their leaders. They

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<v Speaker 17>are elected leaders of their parties from David Little Proud

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<v Speaker 17>as the leader of the Nationals, Peter Dutton, the leader

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<v Speaker 17>of the Liberal Party, Anthony aw beneath he the leader

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<v Speaker 17>of the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 4>Dear talk about people in glass houses not throwing stones.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting though that she didn't mention the Greens, whose MPs

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<v Speaker 4>are guilty of some of the most noteworthy antiques in

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<v Speaker 4>the Australian Parliament. It was only in recent days at

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<v Speaker 4>Senator Hanson Senator Hanson Young make a vomiting face as

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<v Speaker 4>Senator Babbett talked about giving medical assistance to babies that

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<v Speaker 4>are born alive after a botched late term abortion.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, whatever one's view is on the merits or otherwise

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<v Speaker 8>of abortion, once there has been a birth, medical practitioners

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<v Speaker 8>are dealing with a living human being, a person.

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<v Speaker 9>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>Just charming stuff there. But back to the tills.

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<v Speaker 4>And their attempts to tone police their parliamentary colleagues, and

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<v Speaker 4>no one should be shocked that some of them again

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<v Speaker 4>played the familiar victim card, where criticism or hostility is

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<v Speaker 4>interpreted as misogyny. Member for An author, Sidney Kylie Tink

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<v Speaker 4>told The Guardian, I've become used to the type of condescending,

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<v Speaker 4>unprofessional and often misogynistic behavior from a number of male

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<v Speaker 4>MPs from the Liberal and National parties.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, their complaints would.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a little bit more credibility if they took a

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<v Speaker 4>stand for the likes of Pauline Hansen when she's monstered

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<v Speaker 4>in the Senate or when the mean Girls attacked are

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<v Speaker 4>clearly shaken Linda Reynolds. But it seems only leftist women

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<v Speaker 4>can be victims of bullying or misogyny in the eyes

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<v Speaker 4>of the Teals Karen Brigade. Ours is an adversarial system

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<v Speaker 4>where ideas, policies, outcomes are robustly debated.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a good thing, and if you can't handle.

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<v Speaker 4>Robust debate, then perhaps political life is.

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<v Speaker 5>Not for you. And let me be perfectly clear, this

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<v Speaker 5>is not a gender thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the most forceful parliamentary performers are women, and

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<v Speaker 4>the Mean Girls prove that one does not need to

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<v Speaker 4>raise their voice to cause enormous harm to their political opponents.

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<v Speaker 5>It's worth remembering that.

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<v Speaker 4>The Teals were elected pretending to be conservative substitutes, but

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<v Speaker 4>they are in fact of variation on the Greens. A

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<v Speaker 4>number of the Karens, boosted by Simon Holmes a Court,

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<v Speaker 4>seem to share a very similar worldview to the most

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<v Speaker 4>radical far left activist in the Australian Parliament. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>wonder that they so often vote in support of Green's

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<v Speaker 4>motions Member for Q Young Minik Ryan has backed the

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<v Speaker 4>Greens sixty one percent of the time, while the figure

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<v Speaker 4>is fifty eight percent for Zalis Stegel and Member for

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<v Speaker 4>Goldstein Zoe.

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<v Speaker 5>Daniel, and sixty six percent for.

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<v Speaker 4>Sophie scamps and I was revealed exclusively by Sky News

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<v Speaker 4>earlier in the week. At a time when Australia is

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<v Speaker 4>in the midst of a cost of living crisis and

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<v Speaker 4>grappling with serious border protection issues, including thousands of Garzans

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<v Speaker 4>being granted visas with minimal checks, the tills are whining

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<v Speaker 4>about having their speeches interrupted and attempting to tone police

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<v Speaker 4>their fellow MPs. What an utterly underwhelming group of pretenders

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<v Speaker 4>they are. It is a sad, sad state of affairs

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<v Speaker 4>when a satirical cartoon does more to hold the government

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<v Speaker 4>accountable than elected members of parliament.

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<v Speaker 7>These better be good. I was just getting to the

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<v Speaker 7>best bit of my time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dies.

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<v Speaker 2>The better be a.

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<v Speaker 7>Major problem here, major problem reporting for Judy, sir.

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<v Speaker 5>We have a situation.

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<v Speaker 7>Three thousand refugees have been granted fast tracked tourist visus

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<v Speaker 7>without proper background checks. Yes yet and the problem is

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<v Speaker 7>so these people are coming from a war zone territory

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<v Speaker 7>where seventy percent of the population potentially support or a

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<v Speaker 7>sympathetic to the terrorist group from US. So what what

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<v Speaker 7>do you suggest and we do major we should fire

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<v Speaker 7>general practice, sir, Sir general practice, serve. I think we

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<v Speaker 7>should at least do some more thorough background checks to

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<v Speaker 7>ensure we keep Australian soft.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 18>That sounds super duper racist to me, mister Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 9>Who is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? This is National Insecurity.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 18>I think if we do background checks, everyone's gonna think

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<v Speaker 18>where like racist af It's.

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<v Speaker 7>A good point National Insecurity. We don't want to appear

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<v Speaker 7>racist on the world's stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Sir.

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<v Speaker 18>Permission to speak candidly? Permission denied. Well, then, sir, take

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<v Speaker 18>a look here on the big board, all these neighboring

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<v Speaker 18>nations Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt. I haven't taken

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<v Speaker 18>any Look, I'm just saying we've accepted more refugees than

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<v Speaker 18>any of our friends and allies in the US, the UK,

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<v Speaker 18>Canada to New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to hear what National Insecurity has to say.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, I don't know that sounds like pretty racist.

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<v Speaker 9>To me, Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 7>When will enough be enough?

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<v Speaker 18>It'll never be enough.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think we should follow national insecurity on this one.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to look racist. Let's take in more refugees, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Checks, great stuff and Pauline Hanson, we'll be joining shortly

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. But this week the bizarre case of

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<v Speaker 1>Giggle versus Tickle came to an end. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>case that has been covered extensively on Sky and here

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<v Speaker 1>on Outsiders. An app for girls, Giggle for Girls was

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<v Speaker 1>set up by Sal Grover some years ago and a

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<v Speaker 1>biological male now identifies.

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<v Speaker 2>As a woman, Roxy Tickle, tried to join the app.

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<v Speaker 1>After various processors, Sal Grover and the app said no, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're not a biological woman, you're a biological man,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're not joining the app. This went to court

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<v Speaker 1>and it is this week in a Queensland court. It

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<v Speaker 1>was found in favor of Roxy Tickle, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>of the transgender woman and Giggle. The app is forced

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<v Speaker 1>to pay ten grand and legal cost to Roxy Tickle

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<v Speaker 1>joining us Now. I'm delighted to say she's been with

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<v Speaker 1>us outside as many times before and on Sky. Sal Grover,

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<v Speaker 1>who of course is the CEO and founder of the

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<v Speaker 1>app Giggle for Girls. Great to see you sal.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, to be honest, this was a loss in the court.

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<v Speaker 1>But to be honest, I think you were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>expecting this loss, was my understanding. Tell us how you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about it now that it's all over and where

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<v Speaker 1>to from here?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, first of all, I have to say, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 19>a Queensland court. It was the Federal Court of Australia.

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<v Speaker 19>And yes it was a verdict that we had anticipate

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<v Speaker 19>due to the legislation as it currently is. Because in

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<v Speaker 19>twenty thirteen, under Julia Gillard's government, our first female Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 19>who has dined out on that fact form a decade,

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<v Speaker 19>brought in amendments to allow gender identity into the Sex

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<v Speaker 19>Discrimination Act, thereby allowing men to be considered women and

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<v Speaker 19>essentially rendering the entire Act completely useless. So how I feel.

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<v Speaker 19>I feel absolutely devastated. I mean it's not even a

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<v Speaker 19>professional issue.

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<v Speaker 2>If this is personal.

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<v Speaker 19>I'm a woman and I want to have rights, and

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<v Speaker 19>I want every single woman and girl in Australia in

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<v Speaker 19>the world to have rights. And so basically to be

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<v Speaker 19>told at this point that we have less rates than

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<v Speaker 19>a man who claims to be a woman is a

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<v Speaker 19>pretty devastating place to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be reta and.

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<v Speaker 5>It can't enter a sally.

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<v Speaker 4>This is too important. Is this going to go to

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<v Speaker 4>the High Court? Are you going to take this all

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<v Speaker 4>the way to make sure we have these protections for

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<v Speaker 4>women and girls in Australia, because I know there's people

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<v Speaker 4>around the world looking on in disbelief about what's happening

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<v Speaker 4>in this country.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah. I've said from the very beginning, when it was

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<v Speaker 19>just an Australian Human Rights Commission complaint, that I would

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<v Speaker 19>take it as far as I needed to, always knowing

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<v Speaker 19>that the High Court was really potentially where this was

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<v Speaker 19>going to end up because either side would have appealed

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<v Speaker 19>based on what this decision was. So yeah, I will

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<v Speaker 19>be appealing and going all the way with it, because

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<v Speaker 19>you know, our fight has always been that sex is

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<v Speaker 19>a biological reality. It's a biological concept. And what we

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<v Speaker 19>have now been told is that sex is changeable, that

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<v Speaker 19>it's just a legal concept, that its ordinary meaning of

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<v Speaker 19>sex is that it can be changed, and that's just

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<v Speaker 19>not how it is in reality in society. In society,

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<v Speaker 19>the ordinary meaning of sex is biological. It's how we

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<v Speaker 19>make decisions. That's how lives are lived. That it just

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<v Speaker 19>can't be that the law does not reflect society so

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<v Speaker 19>drastically like it currently is.

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<v Speaker 2>Games.

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<v Speaker 12>So one of the implications then for this case now,

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, if we are are now in a position

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<v Speaker 12>where legally speaking, gender doesn't exist, when this is a

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<v Speaker 12>reality that every single human being lives with every day,

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<v Speaker 12>where does this go and what other spaces could then

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<v Speaker 12>be at risk of being, you know, allowing biological males

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<v Speaker 12>into them. I mean you could see everything from locker

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<v Speaker 12>rooms to Muslim prayer holes for women.

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<v Speaker 2>Without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 19>I mean, women like myself have been screaming about this

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<v Speaker 19>for years. In fact, you guys, and this show was

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 19>the first one to have me on in the latter

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<v Speaker 19>half of twenty twenty, and I'm so grateful for it.

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<v Speaker 19>You with the first media platform to let me speak

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 19>about this issue. And I was literally saying then that

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 19>I was talking about how Giggle was under attack from

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<v Speaker 19>men who claim to be women, and I was also saying, like,

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<v Speaker 19>we have to protect women's spaces from bathrooms to change

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 19>rooms to prisons. There are men who claim to be

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<v Speaker 19>women in Australian prisons right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's sex offenders.

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<v Speaker 19>This is what happens when you aim that sex is

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<v Speaker 19>changeable or that gender identity is more important than sex.

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<v Speaker 19>Everything breaks from them because you are actually making a

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<v Speaker 19>complete untruth about the most basic truth in our lives,

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 19>which is male and female. You're putting that lie ahead

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 19>of everything else, and so everything in society just breaks

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 19>from there. Now you can just have any man claimed

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<v Speaker 19>to be a woman. He can just walk in to

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 19>a woman's bathroom. We have no rights to say no.

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 19>So while there are politicians going on about women should

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 19>have the right to speak, well, you know what I agree,

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.359
<v Speaker 19>and that includes being able to say no to men

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 19>in female spaces and sports.

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<v Speaker 4>It's that simple, and sadly so many of those female

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 4>politicians are not on the right side with this. With

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<v Speaker 4>this five just personally for you, Sal You're a new

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.399
<v Speaker 4>mum and it seems like the entire time you've been

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 4>a mum, you've been embroiled in this card case, which

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<v Speaker 4>would be enormously stressful. You're now going to the high caught.

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean it must come at some personal cost to you,

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 4>I mean the legal issues, the cost of them, the

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 4>stress of them. Why are you taking on this fight

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 4>rather than living your life.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, I mean it is incredibly stressful. My hair is

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 19>falling out, it's that stressful.

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 19>I got the Australian Human Rights Commission complaint when I

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 19>was fifteen weeks pregnant. About five weeks later, just with

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 19>a scan, I found out that I was having a girl.

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 19>My little girl is now too, so for the entirety

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 19>of her life, I've been dealing with this throughout the

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 19>entirety of this process. I've been dealing with the reality

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.760
<v Speaker 19>of being female. We're the ones who have the babies.

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 19>I can't let it go because I have a daughter.

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 19>She has to have rights. I cannot send her out

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 19>into the world, but she has no rights that she

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 19>can't say no to a man. So I mean, I

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 19>think any mother would do it to make sure that

0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 19>the daughter has It's really that simple. And so while

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 19>I would prefer to be doing literally anything else, I mean,

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 19>this is just what I have to do. And so yeah,

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 19>I mean it cost us five hundred thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 19>Federal court to fight this. With the High Court, it's

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 19>going to be anywhere between five hundred to about eight

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 19>hundred thousand dollars. So we are crowdfunding. We crowdfunded the

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 19>first one. We're crowdfunding this one. It's Giggle crowdfund dot com.

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 19>And we'll be updating when we get more information and

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 19>we'll let everybody.

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Know what's going on.

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 19>But it's still very early days of looking at our options.

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>So I know you've had a lot of support from

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>people like Catherine Deeves, Moira Deeming and others, Kelly Jankin

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and so on.

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.720
<v Speaker 2>So you mentioned the page.

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>That you want people to go through, the go fund

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 1>page for Giggle.

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Also, what about Giggle the app?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean right, I remember that all those years ago

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>we were encouraging people to get onto the app. How

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 1>is the app going? And what can people do? What

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 1>can women do to get onto the app and to

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>help you?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, the app has actually been offline for the past

0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:59.439
<v Speaker 19>two years, so a man who claims to be women

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 19>couldn't even use it right now if you wanted to,

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 19>because women can't actually use it. It's been closed down

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:09.280
<v Speaker 19>because of this this case, waiting until it's able until

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 19>basically that Australia will allow a company by women for

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 19>women to run. At the moment, it's not not allowed.

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 19>So when they have these government initiatives for like female

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 19>startups and female founders. If you're actually doing something for females,

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 19>you're not allowed to do it.

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Will eventually be back, but will be back in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 1>We want people to go to the giggle go fund me.

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<v Speaker 2>Page to help sell Grover there. So keep up the

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 2>great fight. You're very brave. A lot of women out

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 2>there supporting.

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<v Speaker 4>You, dislarted women around the world, A lot of women

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<v Speaker 4>around there, around the world.

0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>And keep up the great fight there, Sole Grover.

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<v Speaker 2>What a story, what a saga. Unbelievable Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>I will take a short break when we're back. Lots

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<v Speaker 1>more coming up, putting, blowing hands and in a tick.

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<v Speaker 1>You're watching Outsiders with Rita Pana here, with James Morrow

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and with myself Rwandan and thank you so much for

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 1>watching us every Sunday morning. We certainly do appreciate your

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 1>support and your viewership making us so often number one

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>show on Sky News Australia.

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 2>We do appreciate it.

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Big news this week labour seeing can determine to shut

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 1>down as many things as they can. They shut down

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the uranium mine up there at Kakado, made it part

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>of Kakadoo. That was Albo's big idea at the Gama Festival.

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>We also had Labour's Tanya Plibaseca basically planning to scrap

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a one billion dollar mining project, a gold mining project.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't make this stuff up on Indigenous heritage grounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now is Roy RC, indigenous leader who is

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>not happy with this decision, and I can't blame him.

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<v Speaker 2>Roy, great to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to our insiders now this gold mine. Who doesn't

0:41:59.120 --> 0:41:59.959
<v Speaker 1>want a gold mine?

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 2>And why.

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<v Speaker 20>Look, Rowan, thanks for having me on your program at

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 20>what's really concerning for me as a traditional owner, a rader, proud,

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 20>a GRADERI man who was born and bred on a

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 20>little reservation on the banks of the Marquarie River. You

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.800
<v Speaker 20>know how our people taught us who speaks for country,

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 20>when to speak, and more important to be respectful. And

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<v Speaker 20>what's happened with this project is that we've you know,

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 20>we've had people influence the minister and I don't even

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 20>know who this person is.

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<v Speaker 4>Reason well, there's plenty of people like yourself and others

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 4>in that community who have said there are no unmanageable

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 4>issues with this gold mine, and yet your opinion has

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 4>been disregarded for other opinion. And this is going to

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 4>cost so many jobs in that community, hundreds of millions

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 4>of taxes and royalty is for the New South Wales government.

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 4>The cost of this project being scrapped is enormous reader.

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<v Speaker 21>You know.

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 20>What's concerning for me is that I've got a relationship

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 20>as the former chair of the New South Aisles Abridge

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:23.399
<v Speaker 20>Land Council. I led the organization for four years under

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 20>my chairmanship, two as a deputy, and I served twelve

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.959
<v Speaker 20>on the council. We know who's who in the zoo

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 20>in terms of you know, coaching heritage average on issues.

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.440
<v Speaker 20>Orange Local Average Landing Council. I'm not going to speak

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 20>for them. I'll speak about the whole of the network.

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:45.720
<v Speaker 20>But they haven't come out in opposition to this. Now.

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<v Speaker 20>If they did, I wouldn't be on your program, reader, right. So,

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 20>and the fact that Orange Local Abriage Land Council doesn't

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 20>receive any royalties from you know, a mind in the

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 20>constituted boundary, I think he's something else that we need

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 20>to have a conversation about because they should receive royalties

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 20>because they've got a membership that they have to deliver

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 20>to they've got a community, land and business plan under

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 20>the provisions of the legislation and they have to deliver

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 20>on mandate. So yeah, look for the Land Council, you know,

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 20>not to come out and say they don't support it.

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 20>I can't see what the issues are because reader, sorry,

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 20>let me just underscore that by saying that they under

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:36.399
<v Speaker 20>the provisions they have the protection of culture heritage, so

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 20>they would have to do site surveys, have to do

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 20>you know, walk on country, they'd have to look at,

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 20>you know, all them culture heritage issues in relation to

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:52.879
<v Speaker 20>the project going ahead. And I haven't seen anything come

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.319
<v Speaker 20>back from the Land Council to say that they're in

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 20>opposition to it.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, Ed Roy, I mean the one analogy that I

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 12>heard need here that this would be sort of like

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 12>if the local council approved you putting an extension on

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 12>your house and then somebody else claimed that they had

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 12>the right to say, oh no, no, no, there's a problem

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:13.280
<v Speaker 12>with the approved plans for it is the concern here,

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 12>you know, that these people have gotten into this other group,

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 12>has gotten into the ear of the Environment minister, and

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 12>that they're being used simply as an excuse to shut

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 12>down a goldmine which this government has a stance that

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 12>seems to be pretty anti resources.

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 20>Jane, I'm not sure whether you understand the New Southiles

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 20>Average on Land Rights Act, the land rights legislation comeing

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.319
<v Speaker 20>in nineteen eighty three. Then government said we're going to

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 20>give you as a form of recompense and compensation for dispossession,

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 20>We're giving you seven point five percent of the land

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 20>taks for fifteen years. After that, you have to make

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 20>it work, it has to become sustainable, so nineteen eighty three.

0:45:57.600 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 20>MARLBO come in in nineteen ninety four, so we had

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 20>thirteen years of working under the land rights legislation in

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 20>New South Wales. I can't speak for other states. So

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 20>the point I'm making, James, going to your question, is

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 20>that we have a very robust system in New South Wales.

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 20>And for the Minister not to consult or even go

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.840
<v Speaker 20>near well, let me rephrase that. For the Minister to

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 20>listen to others that have set up a corporation through

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 20>ARIK the Office of Average or corporation against something that's

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 20>been there since nineteen eighty three, you know, it beggars belief.

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 20>I just I'm dumbfounded. As a graduate traditional owner and

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 20>coming from country, I'm annoyed and I'm sort of I'm

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 20>lost from words, like I said to Ben Pordham, and

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 20>so yeah, it's crazy.

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>So tell us Roy where to from here? What would

0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you like to see happen? Can this decision be reversed?

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that any chance Flibosec will change her mind that

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>we can get.

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Those jobs for the area. What's what's next? In europinion?

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:08.279
<v Speaker 2>What would you row and be happen?

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.239
<v Speaker 20>Yeah, Rawanand look, I think that's an issue for the

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 20>for the minister and whoever's advising the minister. What my concern, Rowan,

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 20>is that this is only the tip of the iceberg

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 20>when it comes to you know, culture, heritage matters, and

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 20>more importantly Rowan, for the benefit of your listeners, economic

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 20>empowerment for Aboriginal people. And I said on Michael's program

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 20>or Ben's program, that the biggest killer of Abidinal people

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:40.280
<v Speaker 20>isn't drugs and alcohol, it's welfare dependency and absolute poverty.

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:44.480
<v Speaker 20>In order to lift our people out of that, we

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 20>need we need economic empowerment. And the land rights legislation

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 20>in New South Wales allows us allows us to do that.

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 20>But it's the Office of Environment has locked landlocked our

0:47:57.200 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 20>local average land councilors. We got Green Corridor, we can't

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 20>even go out and develop, you know, on our own country.

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 20>So the minister needs to come and sit down and

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:12.880
<v Speaker 20>listen and listen to our local authorities. And that's you know,

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:15.760
<v Speaker 20>local Aboriginal land council. When there's no native title claim,

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 20>the land land Council is the recognized Aboriginal party. They're

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 20>all raps And I don't know whether she's listened or

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 20>he's listened to our people. It's frustrating, Roy.

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:32.719
<v Speaker 4>Do you, more broadly speaking, do you see these Aboriginal

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:38.839
<v Speaker 4>heritage laws being hijacked by different types of activists who

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 4>are just anti development and this is a means for

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 4>them to block big projects like this. Is there a

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 4>danger of that happening or is that already happening?

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 20>Oh, look, greader, I think it's already happening. You know,

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 20>we've got these you know, these groups that are that

0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 20>are pin in the colors of red, black and yellow

0:48:59.880 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 20>to their mask and then coming out and using that

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 20>as a ways and a means to you know, run

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 20>their own hiden agendas. And it's got to stop. It's

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 20>got to stop. And I'll call it out. I'll behf

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 20>for my old people, you know. So it's concerning. And

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 20>like I said again on the radio program the other day,

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 20>I was to chair the New South I was Abridginal

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:27.480
<v Speaker 20>Land Council and the Greens attitude was that, you know,

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:30.719
<v Speaker 20>Abidinal people are environmentalists, you want to lock all your

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:32.880
<v Speaker 20>land up and just use them as green corridors. Well

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 20>that isn't the case. You know, We've got to you know,

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 20>we've got a mandate to be able to make sure

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 20>that you ensure that future generations have an opportunity at

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 20>this wealth. We own forty percent of the country and

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 20>are broke.

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Roy S absolutely spot on there.

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 1>It's all about empowerment, jobs, education for Aboriginal kids for

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<v Speaker 1>the future, and labor and these decisions and the Greens

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<v Speaker 1>are deliberately getting in the way of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to chat to you, Roy RC.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hope there's some common sense comes into labor. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've defeated my own argument because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be any common sense around Rita. We've just

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<v Speaker 1>and James, you've just learned, for example, that Ford, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the great idea of all this electric vehicles we're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be having, and all this push by Chris Bowen.

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<v Speaker 1>We've just learned that Ford have decided they are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to go ahead with their SUVs, James, because of

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<v Speaker 1>the softer unexpected demand for ev utes. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>make of that?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, you know, what we're seeing here is reality crashing

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<v Speaker 12>into all of these schemes. I do like the thing

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<v Speaker 12>that everybody is doing now is towards hybrids, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>that's the thing. That's the thing where you're seeing the

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<v Speaker 12>market crow evs. And this government has been so determined

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<v Speaker 12>that everything has to be all electric, all electrical electric. Well,

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<v Speaker 12>you know that's not what people want. It certainly doesn't

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<v Speaker 12>work like that in a country like Australia, where you've

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<v Speaker 12>got large is to cover. You know, you've got a

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<v Speaker 12>large sort of trading sector who needs to carry big.

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<v Speaker 9>Loads all of these sort of things.

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<v Speaker 12>And around the world, all of these things are crashing

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<v Speaker 12>down here in Australia where you had the first early

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:15.240
<v Speaker 12>adapters rush up to buy their EV's and nobody else

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<v Speaker 12>is really keen on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, We're going to take a short break and then

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back, I'm going to chat about something

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't talked about before abortion in a tack here

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<v Speaker 1>on Outsiders, Hello You, Orching Outsiders with Rita Panahee with

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<v Speaker 1>James Morrow and myself, Rowandian. This week in Queensland we

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<v Speaker 1>saw an extremely distressing scene where a young midwife, Louise

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<v Speaker 1>ad Set gave an extremely disturbing account of what she

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<v Speaker 1>claims are numerous examples of babies being born alive and

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<v Speaker 1>then left to die by the medical profession. Healthy hearty

0:51:56.560 --> 0:52:01.319
<v Speaker 1>babies simply discribed into plastic pit tree dishes and left

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<v Speaker 1>to die without being provided any care by the medical profession.

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<v Speaker 1>If this doesn't upset you somehow, then I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what will. And I apologize for the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>is Sunday morning, but some issues are so important they

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<v Speaker 1>must be addressed honestly and forthrightly at any time. These

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<v Speaker 1>late term abortions go under the euphemism of.

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<v Speaker 2>Social terminations at later gestations. Here are some of midwife

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<v Speaker 2>lou adsets testimony.

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<v Speaker 21>Sadly in the bursuit unit in my hospital, where every

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<v Speaker 21>new birth is celebrated and protected, there has been an

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<v Speaker 21>increase in numbers of social terminations at later gestations and

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<v Speaker 21>this is now common We've had babies born alive after

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<v Speaker 21>terminations from fifteen to twenty two weeks, born alive, gasping

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<v Speaker 21>for air, moving and having a palpable heart rate, fighting

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<v Speaker 21>for their lives as we are humans designed to do.

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<v Speaker 21>From what I've I had directly witnessed or been told

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<v Speaker 21>of my colleagues, we have been present at the time

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<v Speaker 21>these babies were alive, from anywhere from two to twenty

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<v Speaker 21>minutes to three to five hours. Parents of these babies

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<v Speaker 21>who are born alive after abortion do not want to

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<v Speaker 21>see or hold them. This means the only person left

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<v Speaker 21>who could possibly hold them is a midwife or a nurse.

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<v Speaker 21>Sometimes babies born alive after an abortion, I'll put into

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<v Speaker 21>witches hats and I'll cover just taken out of the

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<v Speaker 21>room and die while in that witch's hat.

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<v Speaker 1>Witch has hats petridishes. So to be clear, women have

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<v Speaker 1>gone in from an abortion. If it's after twenty two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>then two doctors have had to sign off on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the babies have been born alive and kicking. By

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<v Speaker 1>my moral compass, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Not by the law.

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue that the doctor's, nurses, and even the

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<v Speaker 1>parents at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>In time have a duty of care to that living

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<v Speaker 2>human being.

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<v Speaker 1>Failure to rush to save the life of that child

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<v Speaker 1>is to my mind a complete betrayal of the obligations

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<v Speaker 1>of every doctor, every nurse, and of the most fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>obligations of any civilized human being. I remember, as a

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<v Speaker 1>child being taught that the Spartans would leave weak or

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<v Speaker 1>disabled babies overnight on the mountain to ensure survival of

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<v Speaker 1>the fittest. Only interestingly, this story, which came from the

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<v Speaker 1>writings of Plutarch in one hundred a d was a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago challenged in the study published in

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<v Speaker 1>the journal Hespiria, which I argued that abandoning disabled infants

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<v Speaker 1>was not an accepted part of ancient Greek culture, although

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<v Speaker 1>it may have happened occasionally, so even the Spartans, it

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<v Speaker 1>would appear the ancient Greeks would view as barbarrack. What

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<v Speaker 1>is going on in Queensland hospitals today and some other

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<v Speaker 1>states across the rest of Australia. Scenes that Louise ad

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<v Speaker 1>set described.

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<v Speaker 21>This baby move vigorouspy gospel breath and had a palpable

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<v Speaker 21>heart rate. To make it clear this baby was it

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<v Speaker 21>was over four hundred grams, so the baby was a

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<v Speaker 21>good way the appearance of this baby. Did not desire

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<v Speaker 21>to see or hold this baby. Midwives and doctors were

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<v Speaker 21>left holding this little life while it continued to while

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<v Speaker 21>they continue to provide cares for other women who are

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<v Speaker 21>birthing and welcoming their babies into the world. This baby

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<v Speaker 21>boy fought for his life for five hours before taking

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<v Speaker 21>his final breath.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me just repeat what Luis said there, just

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<v Speaker 1>so it can sink in. In a modern Australian hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>in the neonatal wing, surrounded by the best birthing doctors

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<v Speaker 1>and nurses on the planet, equipped with the most advanced

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<v Speaker 1>medical equipment the world has ever seen, a baby human

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<v Speaker 1>boy struggled and fought alone for his life for five hours,

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<v Speaker 1>then died.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry if I.

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<v Speaker 1>Offend you, and I'm not an expert in criminal law,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an opinion show.

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<v Speaker 1>After all.

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<v Speaker 2>It is nothing short of murder and it was not

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<v Speaker 2>an I selected case.

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<v Speaker 21>This is not an uncommon occurrence. Just recently, your mother

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<v Speaker 21>decided to board a baby. In nineteen weeks the same

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<v Speaker 21>metopostera regime was started and this little baby was born

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<v Speaker 21>alive again, moving, gasping, for and having a pubicle heart

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<v Speaker 21>rate and once again over four hundred grams. As this

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<v Speaker 21>was a busy shift and were short staffed, it was

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<v Speaker 21>suggested that this little baby put into the dirty pan

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<v Speaker 21>room and covered and be left on its own to

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<v Speaker 21>take his final breath alone. As the baby kept on

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<v Speaker 21>breathing for longer than anticipated. Thankfully, another midwife was able

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<v Speaker 21>to hold the baby while doing work until the baby

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<v Speaker 21>took its final breaths. This baby was a life almost

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<v Speaker 21>three hours.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where doctor Joanna Howe comes into the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Joanna is a strong pro life activist. You immediately posted

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<v Speaker 1>that testimony, which was being streamed of Louise Adsets, onto

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<v Speaker 1>her social media accounts urging people to share it.

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<v Speaker 2>Far alid right now, I'm.

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<v Speaker 6>Going to share with you the testimony, but incredibly brave

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<v Speaker 6>Australian midwife lou had said she's been a midwife for

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<v Speaker 6>fourteen years and she's put everything on the line to

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<v Speaker 6>tell the inquiry today about her experiences. A baby's born

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<v Speaker 6>alive and left to die in her hospital. I can't

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<v Speaker 6>underscore how brave she is to do this. A senior

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 6>obstitution at her hospital was there in the room and

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<v Speaker 6>then gave testimony straight after Lou denying that this even happens,

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<v Speaker 6>and that babies are not left to dying, that there's

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<v Speaker 6>no need for protection. So for lu to do what

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<v Speaker 6>she did today was incredibly brave. She's obviously put it

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<v Speaker 6>all on the line and I just want to I

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<v Speaker 6>just want to thank her from the bottom.

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<v Speaker 12>Of my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>So sure enough, the video went viral, leading to some

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary and deeply disturbing events now Federal Parliament this week,

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<v Speaker 1>which exposed the truly unsavory attitudes of not only the

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<v Speaker 1>Greens and the left in general, but also four members

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<v Speaker 1>of the Liberal I'll get to them in a second. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>one person who did see that testimony thanks to Joanne

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<v Speaker 1>posting it online, was the United Australia Party Senator Ralph Bibet.

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<v Speaker 6>He was in his office in Federal Parliament camera watching

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<v Speaker 6>lose testimony from Queensland on my Instagram and he writes

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<v Speaker 6>a comment saying I am going to bring an urgency

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<v Speaker 6>motion tomorrow because this has to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, true to his word, Senator Ralph Babett

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<v Speaker 1>introduced an urgency motion in which he asked the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize that at least one baby is born alive

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<v Speaker 1>every seven days following a failed abortion and left to die,

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<v Speaker 1>and that Australia's healthcare system is enabling these inhumane deaths,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the Senate to condemn this practice, noting that

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<v Speaker 1>baby's born alive as a result of a failed abortion

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<v Speaker 1>deserve care. This motion was based on an earlier bill

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<v Speaker 1>that he and Senators Matt Canavan and Alex Antik first

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<v Speaker 1>introduced in twenty twenty two. Had that bill passed back then,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have provided every Australian newborn right to medical

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<v Speaker 1>care and by now may have saved many Australian babies lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is Ralph Babett this week.

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<v Speaker 11>In this country. Every single week, at least one baby

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<v Speaker 11>is born alive after a failed abortion. In some states

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<v Speaker 11>and territories, there is no legal requirement for that living

0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:35.840
<v Speaker 11>human being to receive any medical care. The baby is

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<v Speaker 11>often placed in a metal tray and left to die.

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph was simply asking that baby is born following a

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<v Speaker 1>failed abortion received normal medical comfort and care.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 22>But even while he was speaking, members of the Greens

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<v Speaker 22>appeared to be pulling faces and sneering at him, As

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<v Speaker 22>Rita showed earlier watch as one Senator appears to look

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<v Speaker 22>sick as she.

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<v Speaker 1>Walks behind Senator Ralpherbett talking about this issue aabaj.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, whatever one's view is on the merits or otherwise

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<v Speaker 8>of abortion, once there has been a birth, medical practitioners

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<v Speaker 8>are dealing with a living human being.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, perhaps that senator simply in the dodgy sausage role

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate canteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>But these are, of course the same so called compassionate

1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Greens who interrupt press conferences screeching about the babies killed

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<v Speaker 1>in Gaza. No such compassion for Australian babies left to

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<v Speaker 1>die in Australian hospitals. What hypocrites, What disgusting people. So finally,

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<v Speaker 1>how did our senator's vote? Remember this is the people

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<v Speaker 1>who make all our laws, The people who obsess over

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<v Speaker 1>what pronouns you use for people who insist we must all,

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<v Speaker 1>at every possible opportunity show our respect to past and

1:00:55.200 --> 1:00:58.800
<v Speaker 1>emerging indigenous leaders and revere traditional custodians.

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<v Speaker 2>The people who.

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<v Speaker 1>Get all hot and bothered if a man looks at

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<v Speaker 1>his watch while they are banging on about climate change

1:01:05.080 --> 1:01:08.440
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. The people who ban plastic straws to save

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<v Speaker 1>the planet, the people who don't seem particularly bothered by

1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:15.400
<v Speaker 1>riotous mob screaming weares or gaslar Jews or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, these virtuous people.

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<v Speaker 1>How did they all vote on an issue relating to

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<v Speaker 1>the actions of our medical profession when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>whether a newborn baby deserves care and.

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<v Speaker 2>Comfort well completely?

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<v Speaker 1>Unsurprisingly, the vile Greens, who are so desperately concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>About the suffering in Gaza or.

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<v Speaker 1>Anywhere else, all voted against the motion, as did the

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<v Speaker 1>entire sanctimonious, caring and compassionate Labor Party. There are no

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<v Speaker 1>teals in the Senate, but Zari Steggel, the very same

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<v Speaker 1>woman who got so upset this week about all the

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<v Speaker 1>so called bullying misogynists in Parliament.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she tweeted against the motion.

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<v Speaker 1>The same woman who needed the comfort and care of

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<v Speaker 1>her fellow teals because enough is enough from the male

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<v Speaker 1>members of Parliament is happy not to agree with Senator

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<v Speaker 1>Babat and condemn those who would deny babies born alive

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<v Speaker 1>after a failed to abortion their own comfort and care.

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<v Speaker 2>Make of that juxtaposition what you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the Liberals and all the Nationals voted in

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<v Speaker 1>favor of the motion, along with one nation, so congratulations to.

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<v Speaker 2>All of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were four notable Liberal Party exceptions. Disgustingly, Simon

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<v Speaker 1>Birmingham and Andrew Bragg, the two chief bedwetters in the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party, voted against the motion, as did two female Liberal.

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<v Speaker 2>Senators who should hang their heads in shame, Jane Hume

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<v Speaker 2>and Maria Kovichik.

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<v Speaker 1>The latter put out a video attempting to justify her

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<v Speaker 1>appalling decision and has claimed that the information contained in

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<v Speaker 1>the motion may not be accurate.

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<v Speaker 23>Yesterday in the Senate, I spoke against an urgency motion

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<v Speaker 23>that claim to be about protecting babies.

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<v Speaker 20>Don't be fooled.

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<v Speaker 23>That had nothing to do with it. It was an

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<v Speaker 23>absolute smoke screen and an attempted manipulation of the Senate.

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<v Speaker 23>What this was about was around trying to take away

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<v Speaker 23>women's rights about their own health care.

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<v Speaker 2>What nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's the best they could find to replace the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Jim Moll and gimme a break.

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<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, no rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Of women or any other man made human rights take

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<v Speaker 1>precedence over the number one obligation of all human beings

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<v Speaker 1>to bring healthy babies into the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite frankly, I am sickened by those liberals.

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<v Speaker 1>I expected nothing less of the modern Labor Party, of

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<v Speaker 1>the Greens left all right, lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect many people by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, and the old Labor Party would have been horrified.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a different story.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the Greens are the ungodliest of all

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<v Speaker 1>our politicians, no wonder. I sometimes despair, But let's leave

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<v Speaker 1>the last word to the ever optimistic door Joan Howe.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of people are devastated, understandably about the vote

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<v Speaker 6>on Tuesday night against recognizing the human rights of children

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<v Speaker 6>born alive after their abortion. But I heard from so

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<v Speaker 6>many senators their phone lines were jammed, they received over

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<v Speaker 6>one thousand emails in just five hours. I know that

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<v Speaker 6>our campaign in just five hours was effective, and I

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<v Speaker 6>know that because of lose courage, Senator Babette's courage and

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<v Speaker 6>all of your action. I know that we are going

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<v Speaker 6>to win human rights protection for these babies. And this

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<v Speaker 6>was never going to be an issue again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's hope so, but I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 1>Near the Democrat Party convention in Chicago this week, the

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<v Speaker 1>leftists were offering and performing free abortions and celebrating the

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<v Speaker 1>fact the modern left are obsessed with anything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with allowing abortion whenever and wherever, So why not kill

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of babies near the coronation ceremony of the

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<v Speaker 1>new female candidate to be the president of the free world.

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<v Speaker 1>We even heard undercover stories last week from abortion the

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<v Speaker 1>Nicks in America where the nurses were floating about which

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<v Speaker 1>body parts they could sell, or some such horror stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a typical young female Democrats being asked really tough question,

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<v Speaker 1>democracy or abortions.

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<v Speaker 10>Would you rather have a democracy or access to abortions?

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<v Speaker 9>Either or?

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like that's a very tough question to answer.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like that's almost not possible to answer.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like there's I couldn't peck one or the

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<v Speaker 3>other even if you had to choose, I had to.

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<v Speaker 2>Choose, and we get a final answer. I know it's hard.

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<v Speaker 12>I guess access access to abortions.

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris calls it reproductive freedom, yet another one of

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<v Speaker 1>these tortuous euphemisms. But watch when she made a song

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<v Speaker 1>and dance about it in her speech about killing babies.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest, the camera zoomed in on a little

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat baby to.

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<v Speaker 5>Restore reproductive freedom.

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<v Speaker 24>As president of the United States, I will proudly sign

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<v Speaker 24>it into law.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the modern Left for you. You might call them

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<v Speaker 1>valiant warriors for female emancipation.

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<v Speaker 2>Or something else entirely. I couldn't possibly comment. Oh, joining

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<v Speaker 2>us now is promised One Nation leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Pauline Hanson, Pauline, always great to have you here on Outsiders.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations to One Nation senators for voting for Ralph Babbett's

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<v Speaker 1>amendment there build their urgency motion there tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>the so do.

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<v Speaker 24>Not, Roan, I've got to say to you, Ron, I've

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<v Speaker 24>got to two about this. I am so furious that

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<v Speaker 24>Jackie Lamby did not vote for either. There was only

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<v Speaker 24>ten that voted for it and twenty six against, and

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<v Speaker 24>most of the Nationals and lot, while I said, a

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<v Speaker 24>lot of the Nationals and most of the Liberals abstained

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<v Speaker 24>from voting with it. So that goes to show how

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<v Speaker 24>woke our parliament has become. I'm furious about this, but

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<v Speaker 24>we'll keep pushing ahead with it and try and get

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<v Speaker 24>some common sense back and protect human life.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic, Rita.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to ask you about the tills. I spoke

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<v Speaker 4>about the tills, and they're railing against poor parliamentary behavior.

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<v Speaker 4>Have they ever any of these women took a stand

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<v Speaker 4>for you.

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<v Speaker 5>You've been absolutely monstered in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 4>You've had all sorts of vitriol aimed at you, But

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<v Speaker 4>from other senators. Have any of these tills even privately

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<v Speaker 4>reached out to show you some support.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I just lost year. Just oh okay, we've just lost.

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<v Speaker 2>We will get pulling back in a second.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I can answer that for her. The answer

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<v Speaker 5>is no, reader, they never have.

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<v Speaker 4>That's pretty much the answer, because I don't think in

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<v Speaker 4>the last couple of decades I have seen a politician

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<v Speaker 4>cop the abuse and just hostility, vitriol, ugliness as much

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<v Speaker 4>as Pauline Hansen has, and she has withstood it, and

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<v Speaker 4>she does not play the victim, which is something I

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<v Speaker 4>really admire about her, because she's actually got plenty of

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<v Speaker 4>grounds too.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, we've got pulling back.

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<v Speaker 1>Pauline reached her answered for you, But I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell us anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard.

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<v Speaker 24>As far as I'm concerned, parliaments is not you know,

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<v Speaker 24>a waltz in the park. You know you're either toughen

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<v Speaker 24>up ladies and stop using your sex and to actually,

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<v Speaker 24>you know, say that you're a victim.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not a victim.

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<v Speaker 24>You're there to do a job for these grand people,

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<v Speaker 24>and it's a tough job at times. Look I've had

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<v Speaker 24>everything by the kitchen sink thrown at me. I still

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<v Speaker 24>do and last week you know, the name calling everything.

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<v Speaker 24>You know, it's like water or for ducks back. You know,

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<v Speaker 24>you try something else because they can't debate me on

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<v Speaker 24>the issues and they can't tell me where I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 24>So the whole fact is there are a bunch of

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<v Speaker 24>glas down there. They really are. They don't have common sense,

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<v Speaker 24>their policies, their issues that they push, especially the Greens.

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<v Speaker 24>They are a nasty piece of work. And I'm telling people,

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<v Speaker 24>really understand their policies what they're pushing, because it's not

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<v Speaker 24>in the best interest of this country, all the Australian people.

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<v Speaker 24>So I don't take notice of a rita. I stand

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<v Speaker 24>my ground many issues. I will fight for the Australian people,

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<v Speaker 24>and I stand by my morals and my principles.

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<v Speaker 2>James.

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<v Speaker 12>So, we had a little while ago somebody from Orange,

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<v Speaker 12>New South Wales speaking about this gold mine that has

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<v Speaker 12>been kaibashed by Tanya Pliberset, the Environment Minister, invoking a

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<v Speaker 12>section of an Aboriginal protection Heritage Act after the local

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<v Speaker 12>Aboriginal Land Council had signed off and said, oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 12>we don't have a problem with this, mind going forward

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<v Speaker 12>at all. Put aside the eight hundred jobs and the

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<v Speaker 12>two hundred million dollars in royalties and taxes that this

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<v Speaker 12>is going to cost New South Wales. Here, this would

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<v Speaker 12>seem to be and I want to get your thoughts

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<v Speaker 12>on this, to be a horrible message to send to

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<v Speaker 12>all of the regions of Australia that investment projects minds

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<v Speaker 12>resources projects could be shut down simply on the basis

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<v Speaker 12>of a minister and a government that decides they don't

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<v Speaker 12>like mining and resources extraction and who knows maybe farming

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<v Speaker 12>is next, and will use some sort of way to

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<v Speaker 12>use abcual protection to shut this down. It's a massive

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<v Speaker 12>sovereign risk, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 24>Of course it is, James. By all means one person

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<v Speaker 24>should not have the right to have a rule an

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<v Speaker 24>environmental protection which is past all that the Aboriginals are

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<v Speaker 24>quite happy with, that it brings prosperity to the state,

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<v Speaker 24>it brings jobs, brings money, and it needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 24>One person should not be able to overrule that. We

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<v Speaker 24>have set laws in place that they must be passed

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<v Speaker 24>then to be approved, and for having minister to do that,

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<v Speaker 24>I think it needs to be looked at. Anthony Albanesi

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<v Speaker 24>needs to overrule her decision, because what's the whole point

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<v Speaker 24>of going through environmental protection laws? You know, everyone goes

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<v Speaker 24>through the whole process and then for one person to

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<v Speaker 24>say no, sorry, you can't do it. It stinks to

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<v Speaker 24>high heaven. To me, it sounds like there's more to

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<v Speaker 24>this than what we're seeing. But anyway, I haven't got

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<v Speaker 24>anything to go on with that. But that's just my

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<v Speaker 24>opinion with it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 24>Across the country, the overruling. This government is so dead set.

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<v Speaker 24>I'm shudding so much industry. What's happening in our country,

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<v Speaker 24>the taking over of our land by the Aboriginal corporations.

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<v Speaker 24>I fear for the future where we are headed the

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<v Speaker 24>labor Greens government.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Pauline, I wanted to ask you about those fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland towns being taken over.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a list of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a letter from a guy called Rex, who's

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<v Speaker 1>an Aboriginal elder in one of the towns to bea

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<v Speaker 1>who's saying that he's writing about his concerns about the

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<v Speaker 1>takeover there of the town common and other land there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the birthplace of his mother. He's an Aboriginal elder.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't consulted. It's been taken. In other words, one

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<v Speaker 1>mob takes it over, and yet another mob believes that

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<v Speaker 1>it belongs to them, and probably with justification in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've seen this before.

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<v Speaker 1>As you say, the threat to sovereignty, to sovereign rights

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<v Speaker 1>and so on, seems to be out of control.

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<v Speaker 24>It is out of control. Since Marlboro and the wik decision,

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<v Speaker 24>the whole thing has just blung completely out of proportion.

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<v Speaker 24>And they brought in the Native Title Act in nineteen

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<v Speaker 24>ninety one in Queensland. Now since that time though, they

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<v Speaker 24>actually handed over six point seven million hectares freehold Crowned

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<v Speaker 24>Lane and to Aboriginal groups and organizations. Apart from that,

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<v Speaker 24>Rowan John Howard put a billion dollars into a fund

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<v Speaker 24>in perpeturity to actually buy land as well. Then you've

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<v Speaker 24>got native title claim in Queens alone, we've got seventy

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<v Speaker 24>three native title claims. Fifty four percent of Australia is

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<v Speaker 24>now under native title, plus another twelve percent to be

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<v Speaker 24>determined to pr Only this only came to light because

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<v Speaker 24>the people have to be wrote to every politician. I

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<v Speaker 24>was the only one that responded to them. I went out,

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<v Speaker 24>I met the locals. They told me they had no

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<v Speaker 24>consultation for a matter about three years. And it came

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<v Speaker 24>to light because one of the locals wanted to buy

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<v Speaker 24>some land was denied it. I spoke to Lawrence Springbok,

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<v Speaker 24>who was a mayor, who was a former president of

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<v Speaker 24>the LNP.

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<v Speaker 14>He was all for it.

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<v Speaker 24>He was kept undercover. He told me under state legislation

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<v Speaker 24>there does not have to be consultation with the locals

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<v Speaker 24>in the area. It must be kept secretive. This is

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<v Speaker 24>what's happening. Fifteen towns throughout Queensland, Marr, Burrow, Mount eyeser

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<v Speaker 24>to Be as you know, all these towns, this fifteen

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<v Speaker 24>of them. People want to know what please go to

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<v Speaker 24>our website and will inform you about it. But it

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<v Speaker 24>is disgusting what it's happening. One Nation is the only

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<v Speaker 24>party who's prepared to actually throw the Native Total Act

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<v Speaker 24>in Queensland out. We are the only ones who's standing

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<v Speaker 24>up for Chrisifully and the Labor Party are all for treaty.

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<v Speaker 24>They are all for handing this land over to Aboriginal

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<v Speaker 24>groups and organizations. Just recently, last week, four hundred and

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<v Speaker 24>eighty four thousand hectares was handed over just two hundred

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<v Speaker 24>kilometers two hundred fifty klometers from Tenant Creek. Now, this

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<v Speaker 24>is going on continually all the time. It is dividing

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<v Speaker 24>our nation. It is pitting black against white. I have

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<v Speaker 24>always stood up for migrants, those born here, Aboriginal Torres,

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<v Speaker 24>Strait Islanders. We are all the strands have a right

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<v Speaker 24>to enjoy this country everything that has to offer equally.

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<v Speaker 24>But I'll tell you something too. By getting hold of

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<v Speaker 24>the land and under the Labor and the Coalition Party

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<v Speaker 24>a few years ago, they actually then passed the Land

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<v Speaker 24>and Sea Council. Now they've handed rights to the Commonwealth

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<v Speaker 24>waters plus water above and below the ground, and they'll

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<v Speaker 24>be looking at as well, so they have a right

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<v Speaker 24>over that. We are in huge problems with this. This

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<v Speaker 24>is the major political parties have done this too, divide

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<v Speaker 24>this nation. I'm warning people we are the only ones

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<v Speaker 24>who will put a stop this and make sure that

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<v Speaker 24>every Australian, regardless of your cultural background, that we are

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<v Speaker 24>actually titled to this country and not shut out from

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<v Speaker 24>it or have to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Rent or tax on it. Fantastic Pauline Hanson.

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<v Speaker 1>Always great to chat to you, Thanks so much and

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<v Speaker 1>some wonderful insights there. Now there is a major police

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<v Speaker 1>operation is underway an Engerdeen following reports to emergency services.

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<v Speaker 1>The police officer and multiple civilians have quote multiple stab

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<v Speaker 1>worms and lacerations.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be back with more of that after the break.

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<v Speaker 12>Hello, you're watching Outsiders with the routinely rapturous Rowan Dean,

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<v Speaker 12>the perpetually pleased readA panahee, and I'm the generally jovial

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<v Speaker 12>and joyful James Morrow. Now we've got breaking news out

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<v Speaker 12>of Engadine suburb of Sydney. There's been a car crash

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<v Speaker 12>and multiple people have reportedly been stabbed, including we're hearing

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<v Speaker 12>a police officer.

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<v Speaker 9>So stick with us.

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<v Speaker 12>We're going to bring you more on that breaking situation

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<v Speaker 12>a little bit later on in the program. But first

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<v Speaker 12>let's go to the United States, where it has been

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<v Speaker 12>barely forty eight hours since the Democrat National Convention ended

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<v Speaker 12>in Chicago, but already the much trumpeted joy of the

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<v Speaker 12>past week has already started to turn sour. First, there

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<v Speaker 12>was the news that celebrity entertainment website TMZ was complicit

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<v Speaker 12>in pumping up rumors that Beyonce was going to play

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<v Speaker 12>at the convention on its last night, something that, if

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<v Speaker 12>you ask me, was just part of a much bigger

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<v Speaker 12>cynical media strategy to pump up viewer numbers in advance

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<v Speaker 12>of Vice President Kamala Harris's big speech.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't call me cynical.

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<v Speaker 12>Then not long after that, there was another bombshell.

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<v Speaker 9>Robert F.

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<v Speaker 12>Kennedy Junior, the Independent candidate, announced that he was formally

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<v Speaker 12>dropping out of the race and throwing his support behind

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<v Speaker 12>You guessed it, Donald Trump. Now, I don't blame you

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<v Speaker 12>if you haven't heard a lot about this, because, after all,

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<v Speaker 12>if the media will lie about Beyonce being in, well,

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<v Speaker 12>why would they tell you about Kennedy being out of

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<v Speaker 12>the race, Particularly if this fact helped Donald Trump, who

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<v Speaker 12>so much of the media now seemed to be sworn

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<v Speaker 12>to work to defeat in November. But Trump and Kennedy

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<v Speaker 12>made the announcement at a packed arena in Arizona. Have

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<v Speaker 12>a look and see how wild the crowd goes here.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a very low key person, but he's highly respected.

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<v Speaker 9>He is a great person.

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<v Speaker 20>I've known him for so long, for the past sixteen months.

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<v Speaker 9>Robert F. Kennedy Junior.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm sorry, you cannot fake that kind of energy.

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<v Speaker 9>You cannot fake that kind of what's the deblocrat like

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<v Speaker 9>to call it joy?

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<v Speaker 12>Now Kennedy support also seem to be happy to throw

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<v Speaker 12>their support to Trump.

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<v Speaker 9>Supporter is like this, man.

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<v Speaker 23>I think if he does drop out, I think a

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<v Speaker 23>lot of people are gonna still support him regardless. I

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<v Speaker 23>feel like at this point the country's kind of turning

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<v Speaker 23>into everyone else versus the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 9>If he drops out, are you going to be in

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<v Speaker 9>support of Trump? Yeah? Yeah, I would.

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<v Speaker 12>Now it's people like that who will be absolutely important

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<v Speaker 12>in the coming election, because with polls tightening to make

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<v Speaker 12>it basically an even match between Trump and Harris coming

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<v Speaker 12>out of the convention, it is now the swing states,

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<v Speaker 12>the equivalent of what we call here in Australia the

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<v Speaker 12>marginal electorates that matter. It could make all the difference

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<v Speaker 12>in the world. Kennedy has support of around five to

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<v Speaker 12>six percent. Let's not forget in key states like Arizona,

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<v Speaker 12>North Carolina, Nevada, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. States the Trump campaign

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<v Speaker 12>needs to win and also numbers that are enough to

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<v Speaker 12>push Trump back out of the margin of error into

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<v Speaker 12>the winning category. And what we are now seeing is

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<v Speaker 12>the development of a one sided contest of ideas. On

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<v Speaker 12>the Democrat side, they are running from ideas. They just

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<v Speaker 12>had a week long love fest in Chicago where all

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<v Speaker 12>they talked about was bringing the joy while also hating

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<v Speaker 12>on Donald Trump. But thirty four days after deposing Joe

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<v Speaker 12>Biden from the race, Kamala Harris has still not done

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<v Speaker 12>one done anything remotely resembling a real press conference, And

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<v Speaker 12>one of their biggest ideas, no taxes on tips, was

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<v Speaker 12>stolen blatantly from the Trump campaign. Now, Kennedy himself called

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<v Speaker 12>out this media strategy, or lack thereof.

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<v Speaker 3>I do interviews every day. Many of you have interviewed me.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody who asks gets to interview me. Some days I

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<v Speaker 3>do as many as ten. President Trump, who actually was

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<v Speaker 3>nominated and won an election, also does interviews daily. How

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<v Speaker 3>did the Democratic Party choose a candidate that has never

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<v Speaker 3>done an interview or debate during the entire election cycle.

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<v Speaker 12>Even more importantly than that, in that speech, Kennedy also

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<v Speaker 12>called out what his party, the party he grew up

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<v Speaker 12>in as Democrat Royalty. He called out what the Democrats

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<v Speaker 12>have become.

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<v Speaker 3>As you know, I left that party in October because

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<v Speaker 3>it had departed so dramatically from the core of values

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<v Speaker 3>that I grew up with. It had become the party

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<v Speaker 3>of war, censorship, corruption, big pharma. I'm big tech, big

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<v Speaker 3>ag and big money wanted an abandoned democracy by canceling

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<v Speaker 3>the primary to CEO the cognitive decline of the sitting president.

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<v Speaker 12>As I always say, the Democrat Party is as democratic

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<v Speaker 12>as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Not surprisingly, though,

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<v Speaker 12>networks like CNN and NBC cut away from that speech

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<v Speaker 12>as soon as RFK started talking about things like corporate censorship.

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<v Speaker 9>How ironic.

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<v Speaker 12>Meanwhile, whether or not you like them or not, the

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<v Speaker 12>Trump vance and now Kennedy t is actually talking about

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<v Speaker 12>big ideas, even some things that might be controversial, like

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<v Speaker 12>the Kennedy assassination and big tech and big pharma and

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<v Speaker 12>all of that and their roles in chronic disease. You

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<v Speaker 12>know what, whenever you think of all that, say, bring it.

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<v Speaker 2>On, great stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>James Well joining us now is Formula senior advisor to

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. Christian Christian Great to see you what a.

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<v Speaker 2>Conference it was or convention.

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<v Speaker 21>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore the Democrats, I'm not convinced that they achieved what

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<v Speaker 1>they set out to do, which was to try and

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<v Speaker 1>make Kamala Harris electable.

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<v Speaker 2>I still firmly believe Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Will win this election, and particularly after what James was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about with the Kennedys, with the Kennedy support, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Trump will win this election. Although the Democrats and

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrat media will try every trick in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>I even believe they will try some of the tricks

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<v Speaker 1>they used in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>They will hard to fortify another election.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice way of putting it, and a lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>The polling if you actually look at the sampling, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a few triggy things being done there too, a bit

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<v Speaker 4>of a deeper look. But I'm not one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 4>convinced that this endorsement from a Kennedy, though I know

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<v Speaker 4>it's a Kennedy and he's got his supporters, is a

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<v Speaker 4>huge win for Trump, because I do worry about the

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<v Speaker 4>people who supported him, who are essentially never Trumpers, but

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<v Speaker 4>they couldn't be backing the Democrats in the.

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<v Speaker 5>Way about governing at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>So sorry, So I want us to have this discussion,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just quickly going to go to this breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>The statement from the New South Wales Police, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>read it to you. It says emergency services are responding

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<v Speaker 1>to an incident at enger Den where four people, including

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<v Speaker 1>a police officer, have been injured following a crash and

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<v Speaker 1>suspected stabbing. A short time ago, multiple calls were made

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<v Speaker 1>to Triple zero Triple O after a two vehicle crash

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<v Speaker 1>at the intersection of Princess Highway and Old Bush Road

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<v Speaker 1>about nine am this morning. Officers attached to Sutherlandshire Police

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<v Speaker 1>Area Command arrived to find a man who appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>be suffering stab wounds allegedly running from the crash scene.

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<v Speaker 1>He was taken into custody with the deployment of a taser.

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<v Speaker 1>A male police officer suffered a serious laceration to his

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<v Speaker 1>left wrist, believed to have been incurred during the arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>A woman understood to be a passenger in the crashed

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle has been found, also suffering multiple wounds. A fourth

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<v Speaker 1>person has been found injured. It's unclear at this time

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<v Speaker 1>what that person's involvement is in this incident.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the report from the New.

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<v Speaker 1>South Wales police, it goes on, are being treated by

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales Ambulance paramedics. The Prince's Highway is closed

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<v Speaker 1>in both directions. Take note of that drivers are urged

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid the area.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have more of that.

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<v Speaker 1>After the break, and we'll carry on our discussion about

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<v Speaker 1>American politics. And of course canbra clown show all coming

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<v Speaker 1>up after the break in a roll up, roll up

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<v Speaker 1>step right this way. It's the wackiest show on earth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Candra clown Show where the communists are having

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<v Speaker 1>a real party this week. Fortunately, the good Senator Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>Roberts was in Parliament struggling to make any sense whatsoever

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<v Speaker 1>out of Bobo Bowen's revolutionary anti capitalist new vehicle emissions

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<v Speaker 1>standards legislation commonly called the ute tax. Climate Change and

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Minister Chris Bowen claims on his website that quote

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<v Speaker 1>Australian motorists will soon be able to choose from a

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<v Speaker 1>wider range of cleaner, cheaper to run cars, with the

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<v Speaker 1>Parliament passing the legislation for the alban Easy Government's new

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle emissiencies standard choose, how much choice will they really have?

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<v Speaker 1>How are Senator Roberts do the governments intend to persuade

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<v Speaker 1>every day Australians to buy or choose electric vehicles if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't actually want them. Manufacturer, because they on the

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<v Speaker 1>one hand of a government that says decrease the size

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<v Speaker 1>of the car.

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<v Speaker 20>The weight the fuel, increased fuel efficiency, but the customers

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<v Speaker 20>saying they do the opposite. The customers don't think in

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<v Speaker 20>terms of carbon ducts.

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<v Speaker 25>Because I know it's our senator, I think, as I

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<v Speaker 25>mentioned to a previous answer just before, that the manufacturers

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<v Speaker 25>are able to make commercial decisions as to what their

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<v Speaker 25>fleet looks like. The standard looks at their whole fleet,

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<v Speaker 25>and there are a range of ways that manufacturers can

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<v Speaker 25>meet the standard.

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<v Speaker 1>So, just to be clear to me, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>these strict new standards really about the government attempting to

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<v Speaker 1>manipulate the market by forcing manufacturers to put undue pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on customers in order to meet the government mandated sales targets,

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<v Speaker 1>which are not on individual vehicles, but rather across their

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<v Speaker 1>entire stock. That's what putting the onus on the whole

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<v Speaker 1>fleet means. The government is forcing the manufacturers and car

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<v Speaker 1>dealers to sell x number of certain vehicles in order

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<v Speaker 1>to be allowed to sell y number of completely different

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<v Speaker 1>different vehicles, and if they fails, they will be punished.

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<v Speaker 1>If a private cartel did the same thing, they would

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<v Speaker 1>potentially be violating antitrust or anti monopoly laws in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>or guilty of dishonest marketing or even predatory pricing. In

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, they'd be off to jail. But not the

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<v Speaker 1>clowns in the Burly Griffin big Top. Oh oh, but

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<v Speaker 1>just listen how the bureaucrats flounder around to explain the

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<v Speaker 1>intricacies of Chris Bowen's vehicle emissions policies.

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<v Speaker 26>One of the features of the policy is to include

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<v Speaker 26>a few flexibility mechanisms, and the first one is to

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<v Speaker 26>include two targets, one target for passenger vehicles and a

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<v Speaker 26>higher target for light commercial vehicles. And the second flexibility

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<v Speaker 26>mechanism in the scheme is to adjust the limit by weight.

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<v Speaker 26>So you might have a particular Toyota klugar, for example,

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<v Speaker 26>and that will have a particular mass in running order,

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<v Speaker 26>and therefore the target against for that vehicle of the

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<v Speaker 26>fleet of vehicles that that weight will be adjusted. Then

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<v Speaker 26>the third thing is that in any given year a

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<v Speaker 26>vehicle supplier might bring in too many vehicles that are

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<v Speaker 26>that are too polluting, and they've got two years after

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<v Speaker 26>that point to bring their what's called their initial emissions

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<v Speaker 26>value down to zero.

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<v Speaker 2>What a load of waffles? Silly me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was all about fuel efficiency, But according

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<v Speaker 1>to the boffins, the sole purpose the new ledge is

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<v Speaker 1>to force emissions down to zero. How have I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to this classic bit of Canberra circular logic.

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<v Speaker 26>The purpose of the new vehicle Efficiency standard is to

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<v Speaker 26>improve the efficiency of new vehicles. It's not to drive

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<v Speaker 26>a particular type of vehicle or particular type of outcome,

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<v Speaker 26>except for reduced emissions.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the purpose of the policy.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're not going to decree what vehicles the public

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<v Speaker 1>can choose. Heaven forbid, so long as all the vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>the public chooses eventually have zero emissions. Sounds to me

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<v Speaker 1>like they are doing exactly what they say they are

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<v Speaker 1>not doing. This sort of bureaucratic mandates and grand schemes

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<v Speaker 1>reminds me of the old Soviet Union, where grand five

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<v Speaker 1>year plans and decrees with a norm. For example, his

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<v Speaker 1>Comrade Krushchev's Grand Plan in nineteen fifty seven to solve

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviet Union's chronic underhousing problem with his development of

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<v Speaker 1>housing and construction and the Soviet Union degree.

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<v Speaker 13>The decrease stipulated the following points. One the liquidation of

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<v Speaker 13>a lack of housing for working people in the next

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<v Speaker 13>ten to twelve years, two the construction of apartments suitable

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<v Speaker 13>for a family in both rural and urban areas, and

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<v Speaker 13>three the increase of overall living space in the USSR

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<v Speaker 13>to two hundred and fifteen million square meters of space.

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<v Speaker 1>So allow me, if I may to take the liberty

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<v Speaker 1>of putting Comrade Bowen's Nuvik vehicle efficiency standard legislation into

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<v Speaker 1>similar Soviet era.

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<v Speaker 2>Style jargon to see if it fits.

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<v Speaker 1>I suspect Comrade Krushchev would have called it the eradication

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<v Speaker 1>of carbon emissions in the Socialist Republic of Australia Decree,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would have gone something like this. One the

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<v Speaker 1>liquidation of petrol and diesegal vehicles in the next four

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<v Speaker 1>to five years, two compulsory electric vehicles to families in

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<v Speaker 1>all urban and rural areas, and three the overall increase

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<v Speaker 1>of electric charging stations across Australia's one hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine million square meters of space. Sounds great a what

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<v Speaker 1>possibly could go wrong, sadly plenty. Here's Advance Australia.

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<v Speaker 27>Under elbow and violence view US tax A Ford Ranger

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<v Speaker 27>will cost you an extra six thy one hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 27>rio Ida land Cruiser that will cost you an extra

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<v Speaker 27>thirteen grand more than it does today, and it.

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<v Speaker 15>Doesn't stop at use.

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<v Speaker 27>Family cars even hybrids are on the chopping block for

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<v Speaker 27>the camera crusade and against affordable vehicles. All this to

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<v Speaker 27>pressure us to buy unaffordable evs like this two fifty

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<v Speaker 27>grand electric ute that the Energy Minister Chris Bowen has

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<v Speaker 27>been sprooking.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just for starters.

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<v Speaker 1>Forward announced this week that they have canceled their electric

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<v Speaker 1>SUVs program due to softer than expected demand. So there

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<v Speaker 1>goes the electric youth Chris Bowe and was proudly tarting

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<v Speaker 1>not so many months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not really surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, central planning and price controls and attempting to

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<v Speaker 1>mandate how the market works has a long and noble

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<v Speaker 1>tradition of catastrophic failure. Here's how one Soviet architect described

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<v Speaker 1>kris Chev's grand plan that I mentioned earlier.

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<v Speaker 13>Existing standardized models of small sized departments can't in any

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<v Speaker 13>way satisfy the people in the present, let alone the future.

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<v Speaker 13>It isn't normal when you can't put a cold closet

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<v Speaker 13>in an entrance way, when people have to drag in

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<v Speaker 13>their furniture through the falcony, and we're sorry to see

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<v Speaker 13>carry a coffin almost vertically.

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<v Speaker 1>Central planning does not work, never has and never will,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how much waffle and obfuscation and circular logic

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<v Speaker 1>is dished up by the bureaucrats. Further evidence of the

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<v Speaker 1>foolishness of our energy policy came this week when we

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<v Speaker 1>learned that Rio Tinto's aluminium smelter, which promised to switch

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<v Speaker 1>to a renewable energy power which we keep being told

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<v Speaker 1>is the cheapest form of energy, is now being subsidized

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<v Speaker 1>by the Queensland taxpayer. Yep, that's due to an undisclosed

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<v Speaker 1>amount in order to keep it operating. Senator Matt Canavan

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<v Speaker 1>was rightly appalled.

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<v Speaker 10>Why do they need subsidies for energy costs off their

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<v Speaker 10>installing the cheapest form of power replacing coal fire power

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<v Speaker 10>in this case, and glasson with wind and solid but

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<v Speaker 10>they need a subsidy.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 10>Why exactly, every president can't we know how much this

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<v Speaker 10>subsidy is to one of the biggest companies in this country.

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<v Speaker 10>The green energy scam continues apace and all of us,

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<v Speaker 10>all of us are paying for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But back to our grand Soviet era plans. Who can

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<v Speaker 1>forget Stalin's amazing series of five year plans to collectivize

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<v Speaker 1>farming in the Ukraine in order to mandate price controls

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<v Speaker 1>over grain harvesting in order to make sure everybody could

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<v Speaker 1>get plenty to eat. It led to one of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst famines in European history, with people dying in the

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<v Speaker 1>streets and the death of between three and five million

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<v Speaker 1>people and great stuff there. And finally, speaking of communists

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<v Speaker 1>meddling with farmers, former young socialist and now Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Albanizi made more than a fool of himself at

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<v Speaker 1>a rural women's dinner this week when he decided to

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<v Speaker 1>mock the live sheep trade, the very trade he and

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<v Speaker 1>his former agricultural czar murraywater Commie willfully destroyed. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>when we had dinner, beautiful Australian beef, not the live expert.

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<v Speaker 2>The we've made sure it was dead. Yeah, mocking your audience,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister to people lost their businesses, lost their trade,

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<v Speaker 1>lost their income at a time of soaring energy prices,

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<v Speaker 1>record bankruptcies and the cost of living crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>But you think it's just one big joke. The peasants

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<v Speaker 2>are revolting. Let them eat dead beef.

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<v Speaker 1>What a clown show. Communists and their revolutionary plans. What

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<v Speaker 1>would the Beetles say,