Speaker 1: Lo, this is outside. Good morning, What a fantastic day.
Speaker 1: We've got so much to talk about. Welcome to Outsiders
Speaker 1: the show that is to woke virtue signally and identity
Speaker 1: politics on steroids.
Speaker 2: What the Prime.
Speaker 1: Minister of Australia is to the word negativity?
Speaker 3: What I see is his relentless negativity aloate.
Speaker 1: The copy and the negativity to those open to a
Speaker 1: more negativity underpeated Dutton.
Speaker 4: Speaking of negativity, what do young folk think of Donald Trump?
Speaker 5: Look at these vox pops? I vote for Trump?
Speaker 6: Off for Donald Trump?
Speaker 7: For Trump?
Speaker 8: Who are you voting for?
Speaker 9: In twenty twenty four? That man? He the best president ever.
Speaker 10: Has Barack Obama done anything for around here?
Speaker 8: And he's ever did anything since he been in office?
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I'm glad he got Trump the.
Speaker 11: Past Barack Obama. Thank I no mesicetal, I don't mess
Speaker 11: with Barack Obama.
Speaker 1: Yeah No, I'm a Trump supporter trying to do more
Speaker 1: for black people.
Speaker 11: Don't care more about black people?
Speaker 9: Well, that's of course his opinion that he's entitled to it.
Speaker 12: But while we're at it, let's see if we can
Speaker 12: find out what Kamala Harris's supporters who this is a
Speaker 12: good one. Believe her greatest achievements as Vice president to
Speaker 12: have been.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite accomplishment of hers as VP in
Speaker 1: the United States?
Speaker 6: Honestly, I can't answer that question, you know.
Speaker 1: Honestly, that's a good question.
Speaker 13: I can't really say specifically, I kid, you know, I'm
Speaker 13: home over here.
Speaker 9: I can't think of anything, you know, specifically, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, well, we'll be talking about that later.
Speaker 1: But now, as Albo struggles with the negative, negative, sorry,
Speaker 1: the negativity of last night's Northern Territory landslide vote against labor.
Speaker 2: Let's grab the latest outside of his news.
Speaker 1: So last night, huge night here in Australia where the
Speaker 1: Northern Territory government, the Labor government, was turfed out in
Speaker 1: a massive tidal wave against labor.
Speaker 2: Now, what a surprise.
Speaker 1: It was only two weeks ago that there was Albo
Speaker 1: up in the Northern Territory at the Gama Festival banging
Speaker 1: on about how he was going to make the future
Speaker 1: bright for Indigenous Australians with renewable energy and climate change dogma.
Speaker 1: It's only a week or so ago that they were
Speaker 1: shutting down uranium mines in the Northern Territory and we'll
Speaker 1: get onto the gold miner New South Wales as well.
Speaker 1: But here we have, in my opinion, a four taste
Speaker 1: of the tsunami that will sweep labor from power nationally
Speaker 1: because people have had enough of this labor government. And
Speaker 1: we saw that last night in the Northern Territory retail
Speaker 1: we did.
Speaker 4: Even the Chief Minister lost her seat, so that is
Speaker 4: a very poor result. Indeed, how much of it is
Speaker 4: local issues? Obviously they've got all sorts of localized problems there,
Speaker 4: but obviously what's happening across the country, it's also relevant.
Speaker 4: They're the cost of living crisis. They've got a significant
Speaker 4: crime issue, youth crime, but again not limited to the NT.
Speaker 4: We're seeing that parts of Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland.
Speaker 4: So this I think the labor governments, whether they state,
Speaker 4: territory or federal, need to wake up to what is
Speaker 4: happening there. They can't just be in their own little
Speaker 4: circle with their media mates thinking everything's going along swimmingly,
Speaker 4: because people are hurting.
Speaker 5: And things have changed.
Speaker 4: There was a time when you would get a couple
Speaker 4: of terms to show what you're capable of. Now people
Speaker 4: will judge you a little bit more harshly, and second
Speaker 4: term is not guaranteed even if you've uncomfortable.
Speaker 12: Well more than that, you know, it's really interesting that
Speaker 12: issue of law and order in the Northern territory. This
Speaker 12: is basically the prologue to the Queensland election. In the
Speaker 12: Queensland election regional centers in Queensland, everybody is absolutely up
Speaker 12: to their eyeball sick of the crime problem, the youth
Speaker 12: crime problem. And it's fascinating watching the reaction of the
Speaker 12: left media commentators on this. They've all said, oh, Labor
Speaker 12: lost in the NT because they tried to out law
Speaker 12: and order the concern and it's ridiculous. Now, this is
Speaker 12: a complete illustration of how utterly out of touch the
Speaker 12: people who are giving advice to the Labor Party are.
Speaker 12: These are people who live mostly in progressive electorates. They
Speaker 12: are not dealing with the sort of crimes that you
Speaker 12: deal with in a place like Alice Spring or in
Speaker 12: Townsville in Queensland, you know, and that sort of lawlessness.
Speaker 12: And so they're saying, oh, no, no, keep running to
Speaker 12: the left and think the same people, by the way,
Speaker 12: who always tell the Liberals run to the left, be moderately.
Speaker 12: You know, this is the thing, and it shows the
Speaker 12: disconnect between the political class and everybody else who actually
Speaker 12: are really sensible in this country. They want simple things.
Speaker 12: They want no they want crime taking care of, they
Speaker 12: want criminals locked up, they want the cost of living affordable.
Speaker 12: And when people get us away from that, whether they're
Speaker 12: moderates on the liberal side or labor, which is supposed
Speaker 12: to defend the interests of ordinary people, or at least
Speaker 12: it used to, this is the result you get. It's
Speaker 12: a smashing result for the conservatives in the NT. It
Speaker 12: prefigures what's going to happen in Queensland. And this is
Speaker 12: a huge wake up call to Anthony Albanisi, who must
Speaker 12: be looking at this and thinking, you know, we got
Speaker 12: some real trouble here.
Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you for something, We'll have a look
Speaker 1: into second at evil Layl or the label leader who's
Speaker 1: wiped out. But let me tell you, Albanize, he's finished.
Speaker 1: He's a disaster. This is the shock waves still reverberating
Speaker 1: from the Voice Albanese. He took the voice as his
Speaker 1: signature policy. He said, here we go. Even the Northern
Speaker 1: Territory turfed it out and said no, we're not interested
Speaker 1: in this. Virtue signaling identity politics, which does nothing to
Speaker 1: solve crime and order, which has nothing to help people's lives,
Speaker 1: which is all about labor telling us we're all races.
Speaker 2: So where sexist or whatever.
Speaker 1: Labor, you are completely on the nose around the country.
Speaker 1: And this is the warning you're going to topple one
Speaker 1: election after the next.
Speaker 2: And I can't wait for the federal election. Bring it on.
Speaker 1: As I've been saying for over a year. Peter Dutton
Speaker 1: will be the next Prime minister of this country. And
Speaker 1: the other biggest star, of course, was just Enter Price,
Speaker 1: who the Northern Territory recognizes one of the great politicians
Speaker 1: in this country and she is a future prime minister.
Speaker 1: This was a disaster for labor to get all the
Speaker 1: nonsense you hear about labour saying this was local issues. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was local issues brought on by the Albanesi government,
Speaker 1: by the voice by Renewables, bysing around at Garma talking nonsense,
Speaker 1: painting your face instead of solving the problems that everyday
Speaker 1: Australian's face.
Speaker 2: Australian do not want to be divided by race.
Speaker 1: Scrap all this identity politics, so scrap the welcome scatch, Scrap.
Speaker 2: The acknowledgments and let's get back to being one nation.
Speaker 1: Now, let's have a listen to Evil Lawler, the failed
Speaker 1: Labor leader, giving her farewell speech. It's the foretaste of
Speaker 1: the Albow one that's yet to come, and the Queensland
Speaker 1: one as well.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 14: Unfortunately we haven't got over the line tonight. It looks
Speaker 14: like I've lost my seat. And I know some of
Speaker 14: our great, great candidates and great members have also lost
Speaker 14: their seat as well tonight. So a sad night, absolutely
Speaker 14: sad night for labor.
Speaker 1: Yep, takenight of that later, Albo, write that down because
Speaker 1: that will be your speech in a few months time.
Speaker 2: Rita, that's quite a prediction.
Speaker 5: That is a bold one.
Speaker 2: I like the predictions proved me wrong.
Speaker 9: I will be right.
Speaker 1: I know I will be wrong.
Speaker 4: You've been right more then you've been wrong on these predictions.
Speaker 4: I've got to say someone's up putting bet song or
Speaker 4: that we would recommend any sort of gambling. But no, no,
Speaker 4: we can't have that. But you're so right about the
Speaker 4: advice Labor take. But sadly it's the sort of advice
Speaker 4: state liberals have taken for too long, as will including
Speaker 4: in Victoria. The first time Matthew Guy lost election, the
Speaker 4: analysis post that was all about or they went too
Speaker 4: hard on lawd order. They were blaming that instead of
Speaker 4: everything else. It was the one conservative policy they had
Speaker 4: that was responsible, not everything else. So and I think
Speaker 4: this is the political class, the media class, the activist class.
Speaker 4: They are all in a little circle together. They all
Speaker 4: sort of affirm each other's warped views and opinions on things,
Speaker 4: and the rest of the country has to deal with
Speaker 4: the fallout.
Speaker 12: Well, this is the thing, I mean, this is this
Speaker 12: is where we are. You know, Australia has, for as
Speaker 12: long as I have lived here twenty years, twenty five years,
Speaker 12: been a center right nation. It was that way for
Speaker 12: a long long time. That's where the political center of
Speaker 12: this country. And for just as long the political classes
Speaker 12: try to wish in existence, literally wish cast this idea
Speaker 12: that somehow where this whole sort of progressive sort of thing.
Speaker 9: We saw it with the voice, you know, so with
Speaker 9: that we see it.
Speaker 12: But we see every time we see political leaders within
Speaker 12: parties falling for it. I'll tell you something. Living here
Speaker 12: in New South Wales, the New South Wales lives exil
Speaker 12: for this hook line and seeker, and that's why they
Speaker 12: are in such an absolute mess and absolute mess to
Speaker 12: the point now where they're unable to get even people
Speaker 12: to be on the local government election ballots, you know,
Speaker 12: in a few weeks time. It's just a mess for
Speaker 12: these people because they ignore what people care about. They
Speaker 12: care about cheap energy, low crime, you know, getting their
Speaker 12: kids to good schools where they're taught real useful things,
Speaker 12: not to hate their country and the lives. When they
Speaker 12: go all moderate and squishy, they're trying to appeal to
Speaker 12: this class of people that hate them, that would never
Speaker 12: vote for them on a bet, and they say, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 12: please like me, when the people they want to be
Speaker 12: liked by should we want to be liked by, are
Speaker 12: the voters.
Speaker 9: And it's very simple.
Speaker 4: Form absolutely voice doesn't bring this home to all of them.
Speaker 4: No matter how inept you are, have blind you are
Speaker 4: to the obvious. We had a referendum, and the country,
Speaker 4: all the country except the Act, which is besizes that
Speaker 4: the people we're talking about all the country voted emphatically no.
Speaker 4: And that tells you where the politics of this country is.
Speaker 4: There's not an issue that you can think of in
Speaker 4: the last.
Speaker 5: Decade or two.
Speaker 4: That exposes Australia's political spectrum more clearly than that Voice referendum, because.
Speaker 1: People absolutely and this election was part two that. It
Speaker 1: was goodbye to Gama, it was Valet voice, it was
Speaker 1: Todlu truth telling, it was goodbye all that.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Can we please drive over to Sydney Harbor Regency and
Speaker 1: Australian flag only up there for once? Please, that's an
Speaker 1: example of how it lives in New South Wales.
Speaker 12: Completely sorry, Let's sorry what the Australian flag and the
Speaker 12: New South Wales flame?
Speaker 2: Absolutely there is?
Speaker 9: What's it?
Speaker 1: Let's have listened to Leo Finucciaro, the new Leader of
Speaker 1: the Northern Territory, Chief Minister up there now issues.
Speaker 15: This result represents a turning point in the territory's future.
Speaker 5: Territorians have used.
Speaker 15: Their voice to stand up against labor who have taken
Speaker 15: them for granted for far too long. Territorians have stood
Speaker 15: up against nearly two decades of escalating crime and economy
Speaker 15: going backwards and the erosion of our once iconic lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Well, she's the new Chief Minister up there. She's got
Speaker 1: a huge shob in her hands. That crime needs sorting out,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they will get to grips with that.
Speaker 1: Here's just Center Price talking about the election last night.
Speaker 16: I think off the back of the Voice, I think
Speaker 16: now that Northern Territory is delivered a country Liberal Party government,
Speaker 16: I think the coalition we can be quite confident in
Speaker 16: going toward the next federal election.
Speaker 2: This for us is the coalition.
Speaker 16: This election win is an absolute godsend because it tells
Speaker 16: us that we're on the right track, We're addressing the
Speaker 16: issues that Australians are bringing forward to us.
Speaker 1: And just into prices of course a complete god send
Speaker 1: as well to the Liberal Party and to Australia. She
Speaker 1: is a future prime minister. That is not even a
Speaker 1: bold prediction. That's a take that one to the bank.
Speaker 5: Read that one. Well, I'm still going to make a
Speaker 5: small bet, you know what.
Speaker 4: She is the most consequential politician we've had for some time,
Speaker 4: because I do genuinely believe if she wasn't in the
Speaker 4: National Party, they wouldn't have come out so quickly against
Speaker 4: the Voice and put pressure on the Liberals too. Also
Speaker 4: because there was a lot of conjecture the Liberals are
Speaker 4: going to run dead on it, and god knows where
Speaker 4: we would be right now, if we didn't have the coalition.
Speaker 1: And center of the federal election campaign, no question, and
Speaker 1: that needs to if you want to win, Dott and
Speaker 1: you do.
Speaker 12: That, James, Oh well yeah, and look again, it is
Speaker 12: just about finding that sensible place where everybody is just enter.
Speaker 12: Price absolutely nails that. And that's and she is real
Speaker 12: reconciliation in action, not this nonsense. He does a voice
Speaker 12: which was trying to divide everybody up and use identity
Speaker 12: politics to control everybody, because that's ultimately what this is about.
Speaker 12: It's all the left wing politics is always about anti democracy.
Speaker 12: It's always about control and setting everybody against each other.
Speaker 12: She's right, she knows how it works, she knows how
Speaker 12: poison poisonous it is. She should absolutely have a front
Speaker 12: and center rolling. I'll tell you what. You're right about
Speaker 12: the Nationals too, because the Nats are another one of
Speaker 12: those parties where you know, there's a few Pitt Street farmers,
Speaker 12: you know in that mom there, especially in especially in
Speaker 12: the New South Wales division. You know, the New South
Speaker 12: Wales Nationals been a disaster, They've been completely taken over.
Speaker 12: But you know this is again, this is how you win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, listen, reach is going to tell us now,
Speaker 1: how meanwhile down in Victoria, completely ignoring the fact that
Speaker 1: real Australia is spoken yet again in an election. What
Speaker 1: do you think the nutcases down in Victoria are doing
Speaker 1: in the labor government there?
Speaker 2: Oh, let me think, Rita, Well.
Speaker 4: They're very interested in hosting the Gay Games. Now they
Speaker 4: are bidding for the game and they've been shortlisteds.
Speaker 5: Happy news to Victoria's.
Speaker 2: The same mob who couldn't do the Commonwealth.
Speaker 4: Exactly, is to do the Gay Game because.
Speaker 5: We won the Commonwealth Games.
Speaker 4: We spent a lot of money and then suddenly oh no, no,
Speaker 4: our figures were all wrong. We actually kind of fought
Speaker 4: to hold this event, ended up costing the state around
Speaker 4: six hundred million, around four hundred million going to compensation
Speaker 4: to the Commonwealth Game organizers. And now just a few
Speaker 4: months later we're bidding for I didn't know that we're
Speaker 4: a gay Games, but there are. So of course this
Speaker 4: is mocked, and I think Victorians are getting sick of
Speaker 4: being mocked, being the laughing stock of the rest of
Speaker 4: the country and sometimes the rest of the world when
Speaker 4: that needs That's.
Speaker 12: An interesting point here too, because you know, it really
Speaker 12: shows this shows I think to me the real tension
Speaker 12: where the left is because if you think about it,
Speaker 12: you know the Andrews government. Oh no, the Commonwealth, that's fusty.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 9: But this is the whole sort of thing.
Speaker 12: You know, there's this really concerned effort by the left
Speaker 12: to shift what the public imagery is, what the things
Speaker 12: are that we care about, and they want to downgrade
Speaker 12: the Commonwealth, but they want to put sexuality and alternative
Speaker 12: sexualities front and center. This is all part of a
Speaker 12: much bigger program to undermine traditional things in our society.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the how many easy governments ongoing
Speaker 1: shambles with.
Speaker 2: Visas and ghars and visas. Now here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Alban Easy does not want to talk about this under
Speaker 1: any circumstances whatsoever because it is the major embarrassment.
Speaker 2: And this is the big one, the big one.
Speaker 1: That we'll see the Albanese government swept rightly from power
Speaker 1: allowing you know, three thousand up to three thousand tourists.
Speaker 2: Is a tourist visas coming in from Gaza.
Speaker 1: We've got a graphia I want to show you which
Speaker 1: shows the Gaza.
Speaker 2: Visas issued by country.
Speaker 1: There are all the countries along the bottom you don't
Speaker 1: need to know which one is Australia. There, that's the
Speaker 1: global in. You know who's letting gardens in around the world.
Speaker 1: There's a sensible discussion to have here. Firstly, I don't
Speaker 1: see any Arab or Muslim nations taking many gas and
Speaker 1: not many but the biggest and tell us reader about
Speaker 1: the big scandal of how these visas came about.
Speaker 4: They try to have the easiest way to get people here,
Speaker 4: which is a tourist visa because typically a tourist doesn't
Speaker 4: have that many checks done, so you can process them
Speaker 4: very quickly. And uh, and we've got to just acknowledge
Speaker 4: this entire little catastrophe is Anthony Albanese's self inflicted. God,
Speaker 4: nobody asked him to do this. Pressure from their segments,
Speaker 4: of some of their electorates.
Speaker 5: I know all the activists class, we know that.
Speaker 4: But this is the Prime minister and he could have
Speaker 4: held strong here and said no.
Speaker 1: That is going to hold straws.
Speaker 12: This This is seriously though, this is a real scandal.
Speaker 12: This is because they are literally playing with national security
Speaker 12: and public safety for votes. Peter Dutt nailed it this week.
Speaker 12: This was a visus for votes scandal. This is what
Speaker 12: this is all about. This is shoring up support with
Speaker 12: Muslim populations in Western City, in Melbourne, some of these
Speaker 12: key seats where people like Tony Burke who is now
Speaker 12: the Home Affairs Minister, So the Home Affairs Minister represents
Speaker 12: a seat that has one of the highest Muslim populations
Speaker 12: in the country. Now making the decision to give tourist
Speaker 12: visas and pushing through with that decision to grant tourist
Speaker 12: visas to people coming out of Gaza, well, I'll tell
Speaker 12: you what. They come here on tourist visas and you
Speaker 12: know what's going to happen. Then they apply for refugee
Speaker 12: status and no matter what happens, Gaza could be rebuilt
Speaker 12: into Singapore, they will never leave because this is what happens.
Speaker 12: Once people file these claims, it is almost impossible to
Speaker 12: get them out of the country. The number of deportations
Speaker 12: that happens every month in Homeland Affairs figures it's around
Speaker 12: a dozen if that, so it's a tiny number. And
Speaker 12: this though, you know, these are people who are coming
Speaker 12: from a population where the majority support aprove approve of
Speaker 12: what October seventh was all about. These are and you know,
Speaker 12: you had people like Mark Bert say, oh, well, as
Speaker 12: long as it's just rhetorical support, the biggest absolute disgrace,
Speaker 12: And we look at what happens around the world, the
Speaker 12: idea that we would play with this at all just
Speaker 12: to shore up votes, and it tells you how badly his.
Speaker 9: Internal polls are. Right now, by the way you do it.
Speaker 4: We only need one person out of the thousands.
Speaker 5: Correct to do anything violent.
Speaker 4: But I think they're jumping at shadows that. This is
Speaker 4: what I don't understand. Do they fear that, Does Tony
Speaker 4: Burke think his seat's going to go to a coalition?
Speaker 4: And I know, at worst there might be a couple
Speaker 4: of independents who get up in these seats.
Speaker 5: Unlikely, but I think they are actually committing to policies
Speaker 5: to try to appease an angry voter base that isn't
Speaker 5: going to be appeased by these policies.
Speaker 2: But I think it's worse.
Speaker 1: We can never forget that labor, the top people in labor,
Speaker 1: in fact whole labor, but the top people in labor
Speaker 1: are all basically student undergraduates from Sydney Universe in the
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties.
Speaker 2: Their views have not shifted from them. Israel bad. Anything
Speaker 2: with the Palestinian flag or whatever it is good must
Speaker 2: be good.
Speaker 1: That is the thinking. It's no deeper than that, it
Speaker 1: goes no deeper than that. And then they have fools
Speaker 1: like the Teals running around saying, oh, let's get more
Speaker 1: Australian tax dollars going to ANWAH.
Speaker 2: Here's the letter which I like to show that the Teals.
Speaker 1: Yes, the Teals remember this at the election, folks, the
Speaker 1: Teals all sign this letter. There are all that signatures, Allegraspender,
Speaker 1: Kate Cheney.
Speaker 2: All of them. They all want more so money going
Speaker 2: to ANWA.
Speaker 1: At the same time, by the way, we now learn
Speaker 1: there is a law case in America, a lawsuit alleging
Speaker 1: that Anwah led a billion dollar money laundering scheme to
Speaker 1: help amass in the run up to October seventh. So
Speaker 1: there you go, Teals, great work. Hope you're proud of
Speaker 1: those signatures. And the Albanzi government should hang its head
Speaker 1: in shame. We do not want to put not only
Speaker 1: our entire population, but our Jewish population, our Jewish kids,
Speaker 1: being terrified of what we are letting into the country
Speaker 1: when we do not need to.
Speaker 12: And remember point Rowan that after October seventh, the federal
Speaker 12: government failed to lead on anti Semitism. The absolutely failed
Speaker 12: to lead on this. Anthony Albanize had to be dragged
Speaker 12: out of the Northern Territory where he was campaigning for
Speaker 12: the Voice to come and speak treasure in Melbourne. Remember this,
Speaker 12: when you know, Richie Sunek and other leaders around the
Speaker 12: world had already gone and addressed their Jewish communities. This,
Speaker 12: you know, immediately from the start of this sent the
Speaker 12: message and they said, oh, well, you know there's an
Speaker 12: anti Semitism, but there's also Islamophobia. You know, well really okay, fine,
Speaker 12: but this sort of both sizing it and this lack
Speaker 12: of leadership, that's where that allowed seats like Tony Burks
Speaker 12: to start to fester on this issue. And it shows
Speaker 12: that now they're having to backfill there because those seats,
Speaker 12: those Western Sydney seats, these are the seats where Albanzi's
Speaker 12: other policies, energy inflation, the cost of living are hurting
Speaker 12: the hardest. And so now they're trying to backfill by
Speaker 12: giving a sop to the gaza issue rather than dealing
Speaker 12: with the issues that are hurting everybody, these very you know,
Speaker 12: working class of lower income suburbs that are really suffering
Speaker 12: and struggling under the alban easy Albanomics.
Speaker 4: If you are basing your vote primarily on the Gaza
Speaker 4: Israel war, not going to back anybody other than left
Speaker 4: leaning parties. So who are they scared of losing these
Speaker 4: seats to because they're not going to back the Greens because,
Speaker 4: like you mentioned, when it comes to other policy areas,
Speaker 4: the Greens are reprehensible to.
Speaker 5: This voter base.
Speaker 4: They don't they're not on board with any of that
Speaker 4: sort of fringe dwelling stuff when it comes to gender
Speaker 4: and all sorts of other cultural issues. So what are
Speaker 4: they trying to save?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is.
Speaker 9: They're concerned about.
Speaker 12: They're concerned about, like you know, they're very burned by
Speaker 12: what happened in Fowler in Western Sydney where Dailey came.
Speaker 5: In as had a uniquely bad, uniquely.
Speaker 9: Bad candidate there.
Speaker 12: But also they're concerned I think that you know, there
Speaker 12: could be a Muslim independence but be also that the
Speaker 12: vote gets split because the coalition has said we are
Speaker 12: going to make a big push for Western Sydney seats
Speaker 12: and that's all about the cost of not.
Speaker 4: I'm saying for those who are basing their votes primarily
Speaker 4: on this issue, not sub living, not energy costs, not
Speaker 4: everything else, crime, then you're not going to vote for
Speaker 4: the coalition if you are if you think labor hasn't
Speaker 4: been cap on Israel. So again this jumping at shadows
Speaker 4: and then causing themselves enormous political harm in the rest
Speaker 4: of the country and putting the country in danger.
Speaker 5: This is what I can't understand with Anthony Albanesi. Is
Speaker 5: the leader of.
Speaker 4: Australia's number one priority is the safety and the well
Speaker 4: being of Australians number one.
Speaker 5: Nothing else should breach that.
Speaker 12: We should really be having a discussion about what, you know,
Speaker 12: what our broader immigration policy looks like, and you know,
Speaker 12: bringing in people who are going to contribute and make
Speaker 12: sure that they bring positive things and improve the country
Speaker 12: and want to be Australians. And that's really we need
Speaker 12: to have much more of a conversation about that because
Speaker 12: much more broadly, I think we're lost on that.
Speaker 1: Well, we've got time now to look at Europe and
Speaker 1: Britain and what has happened with immigration to those countries.
Speaker 1: We should be learning from that rather than replicating it.
Speaker 1: And irony of ironies, I mean this is a tragic story.
Speaker 1: But we've just heard of a stabbing yet another terrorist
Speaker 1: Islamist isisation responsibility. That's Islamic state taking responsibly responsibility for
Speaker 1: a knife attack in Germany. And guess where it took place?
Speaker 1: At a diversity festival. Yes, a left wing diversity festival.
Speaker 1: The ironies abound, but this is what you get if
Speaker 1: you're not prepared. As James said and Rider said, we've
Speaker 1: got to have a proper sensible debate on immigration, what
Speaker 1: it means economically, and what it means for our national security,
Speaker 1: and who and who not should be allowed into this country.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take short break when we come up Ritter's
Speaker 1: Reality Check.
Speaker 2: Can't wait.
Speaker 4: You're watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan x Y Chromezone.
Speaker 4: Dean James identifies as male Morrow and I'm Ruda Panahee
Speaker 4: pronouns Persian and princess.
Speaker 5: You must respect them.
Speaker 4: Coming up next will be speaking to the woman at
Speaker 4: the center of a critical court judgment which is being
Speaker 4: mocked internationally and has far reaching consequences for women in Australia.
Speaker 5: But first, this week we had members.
Speaker 4: Of the Teals hold a press conference to decry poor
Speaker 4: parliamentary behavior.
Speaker 5: Yes, these entitled.
Speaker 4: Women who represents some of the richest electorates in the
Speaker 4: country and who are essentially bystanders in the lower House
Speaker 4: where their votes are largely irrelevant. Well they're unhappy again
Speaker 4: and everyone must know about it.
Speaker 5: These are overly precious souls.
Speaker 4: Lashed out at Coalition and Labor MPs over what they
Speaker 4: claim is unacceptable behavior. First up is that the Member
Speaker 4: for Ringer, Zalie Stegel, who displayed a complete lack of
Speaker 4: self awareness given just last week she called Peter Dutton
Speaker 4: racist in the chamber before withdrawing the comment, only to
Speaker 4: repeat it on.
Speaker 5: Sky News later on the same day.
Speaker 4: But here she is demanding that the leaders of the Labor,
Speaker 4: National and Liberal parties set a higher standard.
Speaker 17: Stop it at the top. At the end of the day,
Speaker 17: we hear a lot of talk about commitment to better standards,
Speaker 17: better behavior, but that can only be modeled by the leadership.
Speaker 17: All those MPs take their que from their leaders. They
Speaker 17: are elected leaders of their parties from David Little Proud
Speaker 17: as the leader of the Nationals, Peter Dutton, the leader
Speaker 17: of the Liberal Party, Anthony aw beneath he the leader
Speaker 17: of the Labor Party.
Speaker 4: Dear talk about people in glass houses not throwing stones.
Speaker 4: Interesting though that she didn't mention the Greens, whose MPs
Speaker 4: are guilty of some of the most noteworthy antiques in
Speaker 4: the Australian Parliament. It was only in recent days at
Speaker 4: Senator Hanson Senator Hanson Young make a vomiting face as
Speaker 4: Senator Babbett talked about giving medical assistance to babies that
Speaker 4: are born alive after a botched late term abortion.
Speaker 8: Now, whatever one's view is on the merits or otherwise
Speaker 8: of abortion, once there has been a birth, medical practitioners
Speaker 8: are dealing with a living human being, a person.
Speaker 9: Yep.
Speaker 5: Just charming stuff there. But back to the tills.
Speaker 4: And their attempts to tone police their parliamentary colleagues, and
Speaker 4: no one should be shocked that some of them again
Speaker 4: played the familiar victim card, where criticism or hostility is
Speaker 4: interpreted as misogyny. Member for An author, Sidney Kylie Tink
Speaker 4: told The Guardian, I've become used to the type of condescending,
Speaker 4: unprofessional and often misogynistic behavior from a number of male
Speaker 4: MPs from the Liberal and National parties.
Speaker 5: You know, their complaints would.
Speaker 4: Have a little bit more credibility if they took a
Speaker 4: stand for the likes of Pauline Hansen when she's monstered
Speaker 4: in the Senate or when the mean Girls attacked are
Speaker 4: clearly shaken Linda Reynolds. But it seems only leftist women
Speaker 4: can be victims of bullying or misogyny in the eyes
Speaker 4: of the Teals Karen Brigade. Ours is an adversarial system
Speaker 4: where ideas, policies, outcomes are robustly debated.
Speaker 5: That's a good thing, and if you can't handle.
Speaker 4: Robust debate, then perhaps political life is.
Speaker 5: Not for you. And let me be perfectly clear, this
Speaker 5: is not a gender thing.
Speaker 4: Some of the most forceful parliamentary performers are women, and
Speaker 4: the Mean Girls prove that one does not need to
Speaker 4: raise their voice to cause enormous harm to their political opponents.
Speaker 5: It's worth remembering that.
Speaker 4: The Teals were elected pretending to be conservative substitutes, but
Speaker 4: they are in fact of variation on the Greens. A
Speaker 4: number of the Karens, boosted by Simon Holmes a Court,
Speaker 4: seem to share a very similar worldview to the most
Speaker 4: radical far left activist in the Australian Parliament. It's the
Speaker 4: wonder that they so often vote in support of Green's
Speaker 4: motions Member for Q Young Minik Ryan has backed the
Speaker 4: Greens sixty one percent of the time, while the figure
Speaker 4: is fifty eight percent for Zalis Stegel and Member for
Speaker 4: Goldstein Zoe.
Speaker 5: Daniel, and sixty six percent for.
Speaker 4: Sophie scamps and I was revealed exclusively by Sky News
Speaker 4: earlier in the week. At a time when Australia is
Speaker 4: in the midst of a cost of living crisis and
Speaker 4: grappling with serious border protection issues, including thousands of Garzans
Speaker 4: being granted visas with minimal checks, the tills are whining
Speaker 4: about having their speeches interrupted and attempting to tone police
Speaker 4: their fellow MPs. What an utterly underwhelming group of pretenders
Speaker 4: they are. It is a sad, sad state of affairs
Speaker 4: when a satirical cartoon does more to hold the government
Speaker 4: accountable than elected members of parliament.
Speaker 7: These better be good. I was just getting to the
Speaker 7: best bit of my time.
Speaker 1: That's dies.
Speaker 2: The better be a.
Speaker 7: Major problem here, major problem reporting for Judy, sir.
Speaker 5: We have a situation.
Speaker 7: Three thousand refugees have been granted fast tracked tourist visus
Speaker 7: without proper background checks. Yes yet and the problem is
Speaker 7: so these people are coming from a war zone territory
Speaker 7: where seventy percent of the population potentially support or a
Speaker 7: sympathetic to the terrorist group from US. So what what
Speaker 7: do you suggest and we do major we should fire
Speaker 7: general practice, sir, Sir general practice, serve. I think we
Speaker 7: should at least do some more thorough background checks to
Speaker 7: ensure we keep Australian soft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 18: That sounds super duper racist to me, mister Prime Minister.
Speaker 9: Who is this?
Speaker 2: Oh? This is National Insecurity.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 18: I think if we do background checks, everyone's gonna think
Speaker 18: where like racist af It's.
Speaker 7: A good point National Insecurity. We don't want to appear
Speaker 7: racist on the world's stage.
Speaker 2: Sir.
Speaker 18: Permission to speak candidly? Permission denied. Well, then, sir, take
Speaker 18: a look here on the big board, all these neighboring
Speaker 18: nations Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt. I haven't taken
Speaker 18: any Look, I'm just saying we've accepted more refugees than
Speaker 18: any of our friends and allies in the US, the UK,
Speaker 18: Canada to New Zealand.
Speaker 7: I want to hear what National Insecurity has to say.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I don't know that sounds like pretty racist.
Speaker 9: To me, Yeah, but.
Speaker 7: When will enough be enough?
Speaker 18: It'll never be enough.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we should follow national insecurity on this one.
Speaker 7: I don't want to look racist. Let's take in more refugees, no.
Speaker 1: Checks, great stuff and Pauline Hanson, we'll be joining shortly
Speaker 1: on the show. But this week the bizarre case of
Speaker 1: Giggle versus Tickle came to an end. This is the
Speaker 1: case that has been covered extensively on Sky and here
Speaker 1: on Outsiders. An app for girls, Giggle for Girls was
Speaker 1: set up by Sal Grover some years ago and a
Speaker 1: biological male now identifies.
Speaker 2: As a woman, Roxy Tickle, tried to join the app.
Speaker 1: After various processors, Sal Grover and the app said no, actually,
Speaker 1: you know you're not a biological woman, you're a biological man,
Speaker 1: so you're not joining the app. This went to court
Speaker 1: and it is this week in a Queensland court. It
Speaker 1: was found in favor of Roxy Tickle, in other words,
Speaker 1: of the transgender woman and Giggle. The app is forced
Speaker 1: to pay ten grand and legal cost to Roxy Tickle
Speaker 1: joining us Now. I'm delighted to say she's been with
Speaker 1: us outside as many times before and on Sky. Sal Grover,
Speaker 1: who of course is the CEO and founder of the
Speaker 1: app Giggle for Girls. Great to see you sal.
Speaker 2: Now, to be honest, this was a loss in the court.
Speaker 1: But to be honest, I think you were kind of
Speaker 1: expecting this loss, was my understanding. Tell us how you
Speaker 1: feel about it now that it's all over and where
Speaker 1: to from here?
Speaker 19: Well, first of all, I have to say, it wasn't
Speaker 19: a Queensland court. It was the Federal Court of Australia.
Speaker 19: And yes it was a verdict that we had anticipate
Speaker 19: due to the legislation as it currently is. Because in
Speaker 19: twenty thirteen, under Julia Gillard's government, our first female Prime Minister,
Speaker 19: who has dined out on that fact form a decade,
Speaker 19: brought in amendments to allow gender identity into the Sex
Speaker 19: Discrimination Act, thereby allowing men to be considered women and
Speaker 19: essentially rendering the entire Act completely useless. So how I feel.
Speaker 19: I feel absolutely devastated. I mean it's not even a
Speaker 19: professional issue.
Speaker 2: If this is personal.
Speaker 19: I'm a woman and I want to have rights, and
Speaker 19: I want every single woman and girl in Australia in
Speaker 19: the world to have rights. And so basically to be
Speaker 19: told at this point that we have less rates than
Speaker 19: a man who claims to be a woman is a
Speaker 19: pretty devastating place to.
Speaker 2: Be reta and.
Speaker 5: It can't enter a sally.
Speaker 4: This is too important. Is this going to go to
Speaker 4: the High Court? Are you going to take this all
Speaker 4: the way to make sure we have these protections for
Speaker 4: women and girls in Australia, because I know there's people
Speaker 4: around the world looking on in disbelief about what's happening
Speaker 4: in this country.
Speaker 19: Yeah. I've said from the very beginning, when it was
Speaker 19: just an Australian Human Rights Commission complaint, that I would
Speaker 19: take it as far as I needed to, always knowing
Speaker 19: that the High Court was really potentially where this was
Speaker 19: going to end up because either side would have appealed
Speaker 19: based on what this decision was. So yeah, I will
Speaker 19: be appealing and going all the way with it, because
Speaker 19: you know, our fight has always been that sex is
Speaker 19: a biological reality. It's a biological concept. And what we
Speaker 19: have now been told is that sex is changeable, that
Speaker 19: it's just a legal concept, that its ordinary meaning of
Speaker 19: sex is that it can be changed, and that's just
Speaker 19: not how it is in reality in society. In society,
Speaker 19: the ordinary meaning of sex is biological. It's how we
Speaker 19: make decisions. That's how lives are lived. That it just
Speaker 19: can't be that the law does not reflect society so
Speaker 19: drastically like it currently is.
Speaker 2: Games.
Speaker 12: So one of the implications then for this case now,
Speaker 12: I mean, if we are are now in a position
Speaker 12: where legally speaking, gender doesn't exist, when this is a
Speaker 12: reality that every single human being lives with every day,
Speaker 12: where does this go and what other spaces could then
Speaker 12: be at risk of being, you know, allowing biological males
Speaker 12: into them. I mean you could see everything from locker
Speaker 12: rooms to Muslim prayer holes for women.
Speaker 2: Without a doubt.
Speaker 19: I mean, women like myself have been screaming about this
Speaker 19: for years. In fact, you guys, and this show was
Speaker 19: the first one to have me on in the latter
Speaker 19: half of twenty twenty, and I'm so grateful for it.
Speaker 19: You with the first media platform to let me speak
Speaker 19: about this issue. And I was literally saying then that
Speaker 19: I was talking about how Giggle was under attack from
Speaker 19: men who claim to be women, and I was also saying, like,
Speaker 19: we have to protect women's spaces from bathrooms to change
Speaker 19: rooms to prisons. There are men who claim to be
Speaker 19: women in Australian prisons right now.
Speaker 1: There's sex offenders.
Speaker 19: This is what happens when you aim that sex is
Speaker 19: changeable or that gender identity is more important than sex.
Speaker 19: Everything breaks from them because you are actually making a
Speaker 19: complete untruth about the most basic truth in our lives,
Speaker 19: which is male and female. You're putting that lie ahead
Speaker 19: of everything else, and so everything in society just breaks
Speaker 19: from there. Now you can just have any man claimed
Speaker 19: to be a woman. He can just walk in to
Speaker 19: a woman's bathroom. We have no rights to say no.
Speaker 19: So while there are politicians going on about women should
Speaker 19: have the right to speak, well, you know what I agree,
Speaker 19: and that includes being able to say no to men
Speaker 19: in female spaces and sports.
Speaker 4: It's that simple, and sadly so many of those female
Speaker 4: politicians are not on the right side with this. With
Speaker 4: this five just personally for you, Sal You're a new
Speaker 4: mum and it seems like the entire time you've been
Speaker 4: a mum, you've been embroiled in this card case, which
Speaker 4: would be enormously stressful. You're now going to the high caught.
Speaker 4: I mean it must come at some personal cost to you,
Speaker 4: I mean the legal issues, the cost of them, the
Speaker 4: stress of them. Why are you taking on this fight
Speaker 4: rather than living your life.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean it is incredibly stressful. My hair is
Speaker 19: falling out, it's that stressful.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 19: I got the Australian Human Rights Commission complaint when I
Speaker 19: was fifteen weeks pregnant. About five weeks later, just with
Speaker 19: a scan, I found out that I was having a girl.
Speaker 19: My little girl is now too, so for the entirety
Speaker 19: of her life, I've been dealing with this throughout the
Speaker 19: entirety of this process. I've been dealing with the reality
Speaker 19: of being female. We're the ones who have the babies.
Speaker 19: I can't let it go because I have a daughter.
Speaker 19: She has to have rights. I cannot send her out
Speaker 19: into the world, but she has no rights that she
Speaker 19: can't say no to a man. So I mean, I
Speaker 19: think any mother would do it to make sure that
Speaker 19: the daughter has It's really that simple. And so while
Speaker 19: I would prefer to be doing literally anything else, I mean,
Speaker 19: this is just what I have to do. And so yeah,
Speaker 19: I mean it cost us five hundred thousand dollars in
Speaker 19: Federal court to fight this. With the High Court, it's
Speaker 19: going to be anywhere between five hundred to about eight
Speaker 19: hundred thousand dollars. So we are crowdfunding. We crowdfunded the
Speaker 19: first one. We're crowdfunding this one. It's Giggle crowdfund dot com.
Speaker 19: And we'll be updating when we get more information and
Speaker 19: we'll let everybody.
Speaker 1: Know what's going on.
Speaker 19: But it's still very early days of looking at our options.
Speaker 1: So I know you've had a lot of support from
Speaker 1: people like Catherine Deeves, Moira Deeming and others, Kelly Jankin
Speaker 1: and so on.
Speaker 2: So you mentioned the page.
Speaker 1: That you want people to go through, the go fund
Speaker 1: page for Giggle.
Speaker 2: Also, what about Giggle the app?
Speaker 1: I mean right, I remember that all those years ago
Speaker 1: we were encouraging people to get onto the app. How
Speaker 1: is the app going? And what can people do? What
Speaker 1: can women do to get onto the app and to
Speaker 1: help you?
Speaker 19: Well, the app has actually been offline for the past
Speaker 19: two years, so a man who claims to be women
Speaker 19: couldn't even use it right now if you wanted to,
Speaker 19: because women can't actually use it. It's been closed down
Speaker 19: because of this this case, waiting until it's able until
Speaker 19: basically that Australia will allow a company by women for
Speaker 19: women to run. At the moment, it's not not allowed.
Speaker 19: So when they have these government initiatives for like female
Speaker 19: startups and female founders. If you're actually doing something for females,
Speaker 19: you're not allowed to do it.
Speaker 1: Will eventually be back, but will be back in the meantime.
Speaker 1: We want people to go to the giggle go fund me.
Speaker 2: Page to help sell Grover there. So keep up the
Speaker 2: great fight. You're very brave. A lot of women out
Speaker 2: there supporting.
Speaker 4: You, dislarted women around the world, A lot of women
Speaker 4: around there, around the world.
Speaker 1: And keep up the great fight there, Sole Grover.
Speaker 2: What a story, what a saga. Unbelievable Australia.
Speaker 1: I will take a short break when we're back. Lots
Speaker 1: more coming up, putting, blowing hands and in a tick.
Speaker 1: You're watching Outsiders with Rita Pana here, with James Morrow
Speaker 1: and with myself Rwandan and thank you so much for
Speaker 1: watching us every Sunday morning. We certainly do appreciate your
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Speaker 2: We do appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Big news this week labour seeing can determine to shut
Speaker 1: down as many things as they can. They shut down
Speaker 1: the uranium mine up there at Kakado, made it part
Speaker 1: of Kakadoo. That was Albo's big idea at the Gama Festival.
Speaker 1: We also had Labour's Tanya Plibaseca basically planning to scrap
Speaker 1: a one billion dollar mining project, a gold mining project.
Speaker 1: You can't make this stuff up on Indigenous heritage grounds.
Speaker 1: Joining us now is Roy RC, indigenous leader who is
Speaker 1: not happy with this decision, and I can't blame him.
Speaker 2: Roy, great to see you.
Speaker 1: Welcome to our insiders now this gold mine. Who doesn't
Speaker 1: want a gold mine?
Speaker 2: And why.
Speaker 20: Look, Rowan, thanks for having me on your program at
Speaker 20: what's really concerning for me as a traditional owner, a rader, proud,
Speaker 20: a GRADERI man who was born and bred on a
Speaker 20: little reservation on the banks of the Marquarie River. You
Speaker 20: know how our people taught us who speaks for country,
Speaker 20: when to speak, and more important to be respectful. And
Speaker 20: what's happened with this project is that we've you know,
Speaker 20: we've had people influence the minister and I don't even
Speaker 20: know who this person is.
Speaker 4: Reason well, there's plenty of people like yourself and others
Speaker 4: in that community who have said there are no unmanageable
Speaker 4: issues with this gold mine, and yet your opinion has
Speaker 4: been disregarded for other opinion. And this is going to
Speaker 4: cost so many jobs in that community, hundreds of millions
Speaker 4: of taxes and royalty is for the New South Wales government.
Speaker 4: The cost of this project being scrapped is enormous reader.
Speaker 21: You know.
Speaker 20: What's concerning for me is that I've got a relationship
Speaker 20: as the former chair of the New South Aisles Abridge
Speaker 20: Land Council. I led the organization for four years under
Speaker 20: my chairmanship, two as a deputy, and I served twelve
Speaker 20: on the council. We know who's who in the zoo
Speaker 20: in terms of you know, coaching heritage average on issues.
Speaker 20: Orange Local Average Landing Council. I'm not going to speak
Speaker 20: for them. I'll speak about the whole of the network.
Speaker 20: But they haven't come out in opposition to this. Now.
Speaker 20: If they did, I wouldn't be on your program, reader, right. So,
Speaker 20: and the fact that Orange Local Abriage Land Council doesn't
Speaker 20: receive any royalties from you know, a mind in the
Speaker 20: constituted boundary, I think he's something else that we need
Speaker 20: to have a conversation about because they should receive royalties
Speaker 20: because they've got a membership that they have to deliver
Speaker 20: to they've got a community, land and business plan under
Speaker 20: the provisions of the legislation and they have to deliver
Speaker 20: on mandate. So yeah, look for the Land Council, you know,
Speaker 20: not to come out and say they don't support it.
Speaker 20: I can't see what the issues are because reader, sorry,
Speaker 20: let me just underscore that by saying that they under
Speaker 20: the provisions they have the protection of culture heritage, so
Speaker 20: they would have to do site surveys, have to do
Speaker 20: you know, walk on country, they'd have to look at,
Speaker 20: you know, all them culture heritage issues in relation to
Speaker 20: the project going ahead. And I haven't seen anything come
Speaker 20: back from the Land Council to say that they're in
Speaker 20: opposition to it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, Ed Roy, I mean the one analogy that I
Speaker 12: heard need here that this would be sort of like
Speaker 12: if the local council approved you putting an extension on
Speaker 12: your house and then somebody else claimed that they had
Speaker 12: the right to say, oh no, no, no, there's a problem
Speaker 12: with the approved plans for it is the concern here,
Speaker 12: you know, that these people have gotten into this other group,
Speaker 12: has gotten into the ear of the Environment minister, and
Speaker 12: that they're being used simply as an excuse to shut
Speaker 12: down a goldmine which this government has a stance that
Speaker 12: seems to be pretty anti resources.
Speaker 20: Jane, I'm not sure whether you understand the New Southiles
Speaker 20: Average on Land Rights Act, the land rights legislation comeing
Speaker 20: in nineteen eighty three. Then government said we're going to
Speaker 20: give you as a form of recompense and compensation for dispossession,
Speaker 20: We're giving you seven point five percent of the land
Speaker 20: taks for fifteen years. After that, you have to make
Speaker 20: it work, it has to become sustainable, so nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 20: MARLBO come in in nineteen ninety four, so we had
Speaker 20: thirteen years of working under the land rights legislation in
Speaker 20: New South Wales. I can't speak for other states. So
Speaker 20: the point I'm making, James, going to your question, is
Speaker 20: that we have a very robust system in New South Wales.
Speaker 20: And for the Minister not to consult or even go
Speaker 20: near well, let me rephrase that. For the Minister to
Speaker 20: listen to others that have set up a corporation through
Speaker 20: ARIK the Office of Average or corporation against something that's
Speaker 20: been there since nineteen eighty three, you know, it beggars belief.
Speaker 20: I just I'm dumbfounded. As a graduate traditional owner and
Speaker 20: coming from country, I'm annoyed and I'm sort of I'm
Speaker 20: lost from words, like I said to Ben Pordham, and
Speaker 20: so yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: So tell us Roy where to from here? What would
Speaker 1: you like to see happen? Can this decision be reversed?
Speaker 1: Is that any chance Flibosec will change her mind that
Speaker 1: we can get.
Speaker 2: Those jobs for the area. What's what's next? In europinion?
Speaker 2: What would you row and be happen?
Speaker 20: Yeah, Rawanand look, I think that's an issue for the
Speaker 20: for the minister and whoever's advising the minister. What my concern, Rowan,
Speaker 20: is that this is only the tip of the iceberg
Speaker 20: when it comes to you know, culture, heritage matters, and
Speaker 20: more importantly Rowan, for the benefit of your listeners, economic
Speaker 20: empowerment for Aboriginal people. And I said on Michael's program
Speaker 20: or Ben's program, that the biggest killer of Abidinal people
Speaker 20: isn't drugs and alcohol, it's welfare dependency and absolute poverty.
Speaker 20: In order to lift our people out of that, we
Speaker 20: need we need economic empowerment. And the land rights legislation
Speaker 20: in New South Wales allows us allows us to do that.
Speaker 20: But it's the Office of Environment has locked landlocked our
Speaker 20: local average land councilors. We got Green Corridor, we can't
Speaker 20: even go out and develop, you know, on our own country.
Speaker 20: So the minister needs to come and sit down and
Speaker 20: listen and listen to our local authorities. And that's you know,
Speaker 20: local Aboriginal land council. When there's no native title claim,
Speaker 20: the land land Council is the recognized Aboriginal party. They're
Speaker 20: all raps And I don't know whether she's listened or
Speaker 20: he's listened to our people. It's frustrating, Roy.
Speaker 4: Do you, more broadly speaking, do you see these Aboriginal
Speaker 4: heritage laws being hijacked by different types of activists who
Speaker 4: are just anti development and this is a means for
Speaker 4: them to block big projects like this. Is there a
Speaker 4: danger of that happening or is that already happening?
Speaker 20: Oh, look, greader, I think it's already happening. You know,
Speaker 20: we've got these you know, these groups that are that
Speaker 20: are pin in the colors of red, black and yellow
Speaker 20: to their mask and then coming out and using that
Speaker 20: as a ways and a means to you know, run
Speaker 20: their own hiden agendas. And it's got to stop. It's
Speaker 20: got to stop. And I'll call it out. I'll behf
Speaker 20: for my old people, you know. So it's concerning. And
Speaker 20: like I said again on the radio program the other day,
Speaker 20: I was to chair the New South I was Abridginal
Speaker 20: Land Council and the Greens attitude was that, you know,
Speaker 20: Abidinal people are environmentalists, you want to lock all your
Speaker 20: land up and just use them as green corridors. Well
Speaker 20: that isn't the case. You know, We've got to you know,
Speaker 20: we've got a mandate to be able to make sure
Speaker 20: that you ensure that future generations have an opportunity at
Speaker 20: this wealth. We own forty percent of the country and
Speaker 20: are broke.
Speaker 2: Roy S absolutely spot on there.
Speaker 1: It's all about empowerment, jobs, education for Aboriginal kids for
Speaker 1: the future, and labor and these decisions and the Greens
Speaker 1: are deliberately getting in the way of them.
Speaker 2: Great to chat to you, Roy RC.
Speaker 1: Let's hope there's some common sense comes into labor. But
Speaker 1: I think I've defeated my own argument because it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to be any common sense around Rita. We've just
Speaker 1: and James, you've just learned, for example, that Ford, you know,
Speaker 1: the great idea of all this electric vehicles we're supposed
Speaker 1: to be having, and all this push by Chris Bowen.
Speaker 1: We've just learned that Ford have decided they are not
Speaker 1: going to go ahead with their SUVs, James, because of
Speaker 1: the softer unexpected demand for ev utes. What do you
Speaker 1: make of that?
Speaker 12: Well, you know, what we're seeing here is reality crashing
Speaker 12: into all of these schemes. I do like the thing
Speaker 12: that everybody is doing now is towards hybrids, you know,
Speaker 12: that's the thing. That's the thing where you're seeing the
Speaker 12: market crow evs. And this government has been so determined
Speaker 12: that everything has to be all electric, all electrical electric. Well,
Speaker 12: you know that's not what people want. It certainly doesn't
Speaker 12: work like that in a country like Australia, where you've
Speaker 12: got large is to cover. You know, you've got a
Speaker 12: large sort of trading sector who needs to carry big.
Speaker 9: Loads all of these sort of things.
Speaker 12: And around the world, all of these things are crashing
Speaker 12: down here in Australia where you had the first early
Speaker 12: adapters rush up to buy their EV's and nobody else
Speaker 12: is really keen on them.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, We're going to take a short break and then
Speaker 1: when we come back, I'm going to chat about something
Speaker 1: I haven't talked about before abortion in a tack here
Speaker 1: on Outsiders, Hello You, Orching Outsiders with Rita Panahee with
Speaker 1: James Morrow and myself, Rowandian. This week in Queensland we
Speaker 1: saw an extremely distressing scene where a young midwife, Louise
Speaker 1: ad Set gave an extremely disturbing account of what she
Speaker 1: claims are numerous examples of babies being born alive and
Speaker 1: then left to die by the medical profession. Healthy hearty
Speaker 1: babies simply discribed into plastic pit tree dishes and left
Speaker 1: to die without being provided any care by the medical profession.
Speaker 1: If this doesn't upset you somehow, then I don't know
Speaker 1: what will. And I apologize for the fact that it
Speaker 1: is Sunday morning, but some issues are so important they
Speaker 1: must be addressed honestly and forthrightly at any time. These
Speaker 1: late term abortions go under the euphemism of.
Speaker 2: Social terminations at later gestations. Here are some of midwife
Speaker 2: lou adsets testimony.
Speaker 21: Sadly in the bursuit unit in my hospital, where every
Speaker 21: new birth is celebrated and protected, there has been an
Speaker 21: increase in numbers of social terminations at later gestations and
Speaker 21: this is now common We've had babies born alive after
Speaker 21: terminations from fifteen to twenty two weeks, born alive, gasping
Speaker 21: for air, moving and having a palpable heart rate, fighting
Speaker 21: for their lives as we are humans designed to do.
Speaker 21: From what I've I had directly witnessed or been told
Speaker 21: of my colleagues, we have been present at the time
Speaker 21: these babies were alive, from anywhere from two to twenty
Speaker 21: minutes to three to five hours. Parents of these babies
Speaker 21: who are born alive after abortion do not want to
Speaker 21: see or hold them. This means the only person left
Speaker 21: who could possibly hold them is a midwife or a nurse.
Speaker 21: Sometimes babies born alive after an abortion, I'll put into
Speaker 21: witches hats and I'll cover just taken out of the
Speaker 21: room and die while in that witch's hat.
Speaker 1: Witch has hats petridishes. So to be clear, women have
Speaker 1: gone in from an abortion. If it's after twenty two weeks,
Speaker 1: then two doctors have had to sign off on it.
Speaker 1: But the babies have been born alive and kicking. By
Speaker 1: my moral compass, but.
Speaker 2: Not by the law.
Speaker 1: I would argue that the doctor's, nurses, and even the
Speaker 1: parents at that point.
Speaker 2: In time have a duty of care to that living
Speaker 2: human being.
Speaker 1: Failure to rush to save the life of that child
Speaker 1: is to my mind a complete betrayal of the obligations
Speaker 1: of every doctor, every nurse, and of the most fundamental
Speaker 1: obligations of any civilized human being. I remember, as a
Speaker 1: child being taught that the Spartans would leave weak or
Speaker 1: disabled babies overnight on the mountain to ensure survival of
Speaker 1: the fittest. Only interestingly, this story, which came from the
Speaker 1: writings of Plutarch in one hundred a d was a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago challenged in the study published in
Speaker 1: the journal Hespiria, which I argued that abandoning disabled infants
Speaker 1: was not an accepted part of ancient Greek culture, although
Speaker 1: it may have happened occasionally, so even the Spartans, it
Speaker 1: would appear the ancient Greeks would view as barbarrack. What
Speaker 1: is going on in Queensland hospitals today and some other
Speaker 1: states across the rest of Australia. Scenes that Louise ad
Speaker 1: set described.
Speaker 21: This baby move vigorouspy gospel breath and had a palpable
Speaker 21: heart rate. To make it clear this baby was it
Speaker 21: was over four hundred grams, so the baby was a
Speaker 21: good way the appearance of this baby. Did not desire
Speaker 21: to see or hold this baby. Midwives and doctors were
Speaker 21: left holding this little life while it continued to while
Speaker 21: they continue to provide cares for other women who are
Speaker 21: birthing and welcoming their babies into the world. This baby
Speaker 21: boy fought for his life for five hours before taking
Speaker 21: his final breath.
Speaker 1: So let me just repeat what Luis said there, just
Speaker 1: so it can sink in. In a modern Australian hospital,
Speaker 1: in the neonatal wing, surrounded by the best birthing doctors
Speaker 1: and nurses on the planet, equipped with the most advanced
Speaker 1: medical equipment the world has ever seen, a baby human
Speaker 1: boy struggled and fought alone for his life for five hours,
Speaker 1: then died.
Speaker 2: Sorry if I.
Speaker 1: Offend you, and I'm not an expert in criminal law,
Speaker 1: but that is in my opinion.
Speaker 2: This is an opinion show.
Speaker 1: After all.
Speaker 2: It is nothing short of murder and it was not
Speaker 2: an I selected case.
Speaker 21: This is not an uncommon occurrence. Just recently, your mother
Speaker 21: decided to board a baby. In nineteen weeks the same
Speaker 21: metopostera regime was started and this little baby was born
Speaker 21: alive again, moving, gasping, for and having a pubicle heart
Speaker 21: rate and once again over four hundred grams. As this
Speaker 21: was a busy shift and were short staffed, it was
Speaker 21: suggested that this little baby put into the dirty pan
Speaker 21: room and covered and be left on its own to
Speaker 21: take his final breath alone. As the baby kept on
Speaker 21: breathing for longer than anticipated. Thankfully, another midwife was able
Speaker 21: to hold the baby while doing work until the baby
Speaker 21: took its final breaths. This baby was a life almost
Speaker 21: three hours.
Speaker 1: And this is where doctor Joanna Howe comes into the picture.
Speaker 1: Joanna is a strong pro life activist. You immediately posted
Speaker 1: that testimony, which was being streamed of Louise Adsets, onto
Speaker 1: her social media accounts urging people to share it.
Speaker 2: Far alid right now, I'm.
Speaker 6: Going to share with you the testimony, but incredibly brave
Speaker 6: Australian midwife lou had said she's been a midwife for
Speaker 6: fourteen years and she's put everything on the line to
Speaker 6: tell the inquiry today about her experiences. A baby's born
Speaker 6: alive and left to die in her hospital. I can't
Speaker 6: underscore how brave she is to do this. A senior
Speaker 6: obstitution at her hospital was there in the room and
Speaker 6: then gave testimony straight after Lou denying that this even happens,
Speaker 6: and that babies are not left to dying, that there's
Speaker 6: no need for protection. So for lu to do what
Speaker 6: she did today was incredibly brave. She's obviously put it
Speaker 6: all on the line and I just want to I
Speaker 6: just want to thank her from the bottom.
Speaker 12: Of my heart.
Speaker 1: So sure enough, the video went viral, leading to some
Speaker 1: extraordinary and deeply disturbing events now Federal Parliament this week,
Speaker 1: which exposed the truly unsavory attitudes of not only the
Speaker 1: Greens and the left in general, but also four members
Speaker 1: of the Liberal I'll get to them in a second. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: one person who did see that testimony thanks to Joanne
Speaker 1: posting it online, was the United Australia Party Senator Ralph Bibet.
Speaker 6: He was in his office in Federal Parliament camera watching
Speaker 6: lose testimony from Queensland on my Instagram and he writes
Speaker 6: a comment saying I am going to bring an urgency
Speaker 6: motion tomorrow because this has to stop.
Speaker 1: The next day, true to his word, Senator Ralph Babett
Speaker 1: introduced an urgency motion in which he asked the Senate
Speaker 1: to recognize that at least one baby is born alive
Speaker 1: every seven days following a failed abortion and left to die,
Speaker 1: and that Australia's healthcare system is enabling these inhumane deaths,
Speaker 1: and for the Senate to condemn this practice, noting that
Speaker 1: baby's born alive as a result of a failed abortion
Speaker 1: deserve care. This motion was based on an earlier bill
Speaker 1: that he and Senators Matt Canavan and Alex Antik first
Speaker 1: introduced in twenty twenty two. Had that bill passed back then,
Speaker 1: it would have provided every Australian newborn right to medical
Speaker 1: care and by now may have saved many Australian babies lives.
Speaker 2: Here is Ralph Babett this week.
Speaker 11: In this country. Every single week, at least one baby
Speaker 11: is born alive after a failed abortion. In some states
Speaker 11: and territories, there is no legal requirement for that living
Speaker 11: human being to receive any medical care. The baby is
Speaker 11: often placed in a metal tray and left to die.
Speaker 1: Ralph was simply asking that baby is born following a
Speaker 1: failed abortion received normal medical comfort and care.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 22: But even while he was speaking, members of the Greens
Speaker 22: appeared to be pulling faces and sneering at him, As
Speaker 22: Rita showed earlier watch as one Senator appears to look
Speaker 22: sick as she.
Speaker 1: Walks behind Senator Ralpherbett talking about this issue aabaj.
Speaker 8: Now, whatever one's view is on the merits or otherwise
Speaker 8: of abortion, once there has been a birth, medical practitioners
Speaker 8: are dealing with a living human being.
Speaker 1: Now, perhaps that senator simply in the dodgy sausage role
Speaker 1: in the Senate canteen.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 1: But these are, of course the same so called compassionate
Speaker 1: Greens who interrupt press conferences screeching about the babies killed
Speaker 1: in Gaza. No such compassion for Australian babies left to
Speaker 1: die in Australian hospitals. What hypocrites, What disgusting people. So finally,
Speaker 1: how did our senator's vote? Remember this is the people
Speaker 1: who make all our laws, The people who obsess over
Speaker 1: what pronouns you use for people who insist we must all,
Speaker 1: at every possible opportunity show our respect to past and
Speaker 1: emerging indigenous leaders and revere traditional custodians.
Speaker 2: The people who.
Speaker 1: Get all hot and bothered if a man looks at
Speaker 1: his watch while they are banging on about climate change
Speaker 1: or whatever. The people who ban plastic straws to save
Speaker 1: the planet, the people who don't seem particularly bothered by
Speaker 1: riotous mob screaming weares or gaslar Jews or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yes, these virtuous people.
Speaker 1: How did they all vote on an issue relating to
Speaker 1: the actions of our medical profession when it comes to
Speaker 1: whether a newborn baby deserves care and.
Speaker 2: Comfort well completely?
Speaker 1: Unsurprisingly, the vile Greens, who are so desperately concerned.
Speaker 2: About the suffering in Gaza or.
Speaker 1: Anywhere else, all voted against the motion, as did the
Speaker 1: entire sanctimonious, caring and compassionate Labor Party. There are no
Speaker 1: teals in the Senate, but Zari Steggel, the very same
Speaker 1: woman who got so upset this week about all the
Speaker 1: so called bullying misogynists in Parliament.
Speaker 2: Well, she tweeted against the motion.
Speaker 1: The same woman who needed the comfort and care of
Speaker 1: her fellow teals because enough is enough from the male
Speaker 1: members of Parliament is happy not to agree with Senator
Speaker 1: Babat and condemn those who would deny babies born alive
Speaker 1: after a failed to abortion their own comfort and care.
Speaker 2: Make of that juxtaposition what you will.
Speaker 1: Most of the Liberals and all the Nationals voted in
Speaker 1: favor of the motion, along with one nation, so congratulations to.
Speaker 2: All of them.
Speaker 1: But there were four notable Liberal Party exceptions. Disgustingly, Simon
Speaker 1: Birmingham and Andrew Bragg, the two chief bedwetters in the
Speaker 1: Liberal Party, voted against the motion, as did two female Liberal.
Speaker 2: Senators who should hang their heads in shame, Jane Hume
Speaker 2: and Maria Kovichik.
Speaker 1: The latter put out a video attempting to justify her
Speaker 1: appalling decision and has claimed that the information contained in
Speaker 1: the motion may not be accurate.
Speaker 23: Yesterday in the Senate, I spoke against an urgency motion
Speaker 23: that claim to be about protecting babies.
Speaker 20: Don't be fooled.
Speaker 23: That had nothing to do with it. It was an
Speaker 23: absolute smoke screen and an attempted manipulation of the Senate.
Speaker 23: What this was about was around trying to take away
Speaker 23: women's rights about their own health care.
Speaker 2: What nonsense.
Speaker 1: And she's the best they could find to replace the
Speaker 1: Great Jim Moll and gimme a break.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, no rights.
Speaker 1: Of women or any other man made human rights take
Speaker 1: precedence over the number one obligation of all human beings
Speaker 1: to bring healthy babies into the world.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I am sickened by those liberals.
Speaker 1: I expected nothing less of the modern Labor Party, of
Speaker 1: the Greens left all right, lot.
Speaker 2: I suspect many people by the.
Speaker 1: Way, and the old Labor Party would have been horrified.
Speaker 2: But that's a different story.
Speaker 1: And of course the Greens are the ungodliest of all
Speaker 1: our politicians, no wonder. I sometimes despair, But let's leave
Speaker 1: the last word to the ever optimistic door Joan Howe.
Speaker 6: A lot of people are devastated, understandably about the vote
Speaker 6: on Tuesday night against recognizing the human rights of children
Speaker 6: born alive after their abortion. But I heard from so
Speaker 6: many senators their phone lines were jammed, they received over
Speaker 6: one thousand emails in just five hours. I know that
Speaker 6: our campaign in just five hours was effective, and I
Speaker 6: know that because of lose courage, Senator Babette's courage and
Speaker 6: all of your action. I know that we are going
Speaker 6: to win human rights protection for these babies. And this
Speaker 6: was never going to be an issue again.
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope so, but I doubt it.
Speaker 1: Near the Democrat Party convention in Chicago this week, the
Speaker 1: leftists were offering and performing free abortions and celebrating the
Speaker 1: fact the modern left are obsessed with anything to do
Speaker 1: with allowing abortion whenever and wherever, So why not kill
Speaker 1: a bunch of babies near the coronation ceremony of the
Speaker 1: new female candidate to be the president of the free world.
Speaker 1: We even heard undercover stories last week from abortion the
Speaker 1: Nicks in America where the nurses were floating about which
Speaker 1: body parts they could sell, or some such horror stories.
Speaker 1: Here's a typical young female Democrats being asked really tough question,
Speaker 1: democracy or abortions.
Speaker 10: Would you rather have a democracy or access to abortions?
Speaker 9: Either or?
Speaker 5: I feel like that's a very tough question to answer.
Speaker 7: I feel like that's almost not possible to answer.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's I couldn't peck one or the
Speaker 3: other even if you had to choose, I had to.
Speaker 2: Choose, and we get a final answer. I know it's hard.
Speaker 12: I guess access access to abortions.
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris calls it reproductive freedom, yet another one of
Speaker 1: these tortuous euphemisms. But watch when she made a song
Speaker 1: and dance about it in her speech about killing babies.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, the camera zoomed in on a little
Speaker 1: Democrat baby to.
Speaker 5: Restore reproductive freedom.
Speaker 24: As president of the United States, I will proudly sign
Speaker 24: it into law.
Speaker 1: That's the modern Left for you. You might call them
Speaker 1: valiant warriors for female emancipation.
Speaker 2: Or something else entirely. I couldn't possibly comment. Oh, joining
Speaker 2: us now is promised One Nation leader.
Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson, Pauline, always great to have you here on Outsiders.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to One Nation senators for voting for Ralph Babbett's
Speaker 1: amendment there build their urgency motion there tell us about
Speaker 1: the so do.
Speaker 24: Not, Roan, I've got to say to you, Ron, I've
Speaker 24: got to two about this. I am so furious that
Speaker 24: Jackie Lamby did not vote for either. There was only
Speaker 24: ten that voted for it and twenty six against, and
Speaker 24: most of the Nationals and lot, while I said, a
Speaker 24: lot of the Nationals and most of the Liberals abstained
Speaker 24: from voting with it. So that goes to show how
Speaker 24: woke our parliament has become. I'm furious about this, but
Speaker 24: we'll keep pushing ahead with it and try and get
Speaker 24: some common sense back and protect human life.
Speaker 2: Fantastic, Rita.
Speaker 4: I want to ask you about the tills. I spoke
Speaker 4: about the tills, and they're railing against poor parliamentary behavior.
Speaker 4: Have they ever any of these women took a stand
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 5: You've been absolutely monstered in the Senate.
Speaker 4: You've had all sorts of vitriol aimed at you, But
Speaker 4: from other senators. Have any of these tills even privately
Speaker 4: reached out to show you some support.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I just lost year. Just oh okay, we've just lost.
Speaker 2: We will get pulling back in a second.
Speaker 5: I think I can answer that for her. The answer
Speaker 5: is no, reader, they never have.
Speaker 4: That's pretty much the answer, because I don't think in
Speaker 4: the last couple of decades I have seen a politician
Speaker 4: cop the abuse and just hostility, vitriol, ugliness as much
Speaker 4: as Pauline Hansen has, and she has withstood it, and
Speaker 4: she does not play the victim, which is something I
Speaker 4: really admire about her, because she's actually got plenty of
Speaker 4: grounds too.
Speaker 2: Great, we've got pulling back.
Speaker 1: Pauline reached her answered for you, But I bet you
Speaker 1: can tell us anyway.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard.
Speaker 24: As far as I'm concerned, parliaments is not you know,
Speaker 24: a waltz in the park. You know you're either toughen
Speaker 24: up ladies and stop using your sex and to actually,
Speaker 24: you know, say that you're a victim.
Speaker 2: You're not a victim.
Speaker 24: You're there to do a job for these grand people,
Speaker 24: and it's a tough job at times. Look I've had
Speaker 24: everything by the kitchen sink thrown at me. I still
Speaker 24: do and last week you know, the name calling everything.
Speaker 24: You know, it's like water or for ducks back. You know,
Speaker 24: you try something else because they can't debate me on
Speaker 24: the issues and they can't tell me where I'm wrong.
Speaker 24: So the whole fact is there are a bunch of
Speaker 24: glas down there. They really are. They don't have common sense,
Speaker 24: their policies, their issues that they push, especially the Greens.
Speaker 24: They are a nasty piece of work. And I'm telling people,
Speaker 24: really understand their policies what they're pushing, because it's not
Speaker 24: in the best interest of this country, all the Australian people.
Speaker 24: So I don't take notice of a rita. I stand
Speaker 24: my ground many issues. I will fight for the Australian people,
Speaker 24: and I stand by my morals and my principles.
Speaker 2: James.
Speaker 12: So, we had a little while ago somebody from Orange,
Speaker 12: New South Wales speaking about this gold mine that has
Speaker 12: been kaibashed by Tanya Pliberset, the Environment Minister, invoking a
Speaker 12: section of an Aboriginal protection Heritage Act after the local
Speaker 12: Aboriginal Land Council had signed off and said, oh no, no,
Speaker 12: we don't have a problem with this, mind going forward
Speaker 12: at all. Put aside the eight hundred jobs and the
Speaker 12: two hundred million dollars in royalties and taxes that this
Speaker 12: is going to cost New South Wales. Here, this would
Speaker 12: seem to be and I want to get your thoughts
Speaker 12: on this, to be a horrible message to send to
Speaker 12: all of the regions of Australia that investment projects minds
Speaker 12: resources projects could be shut down simply on the basis
Speaker 12: of a minister and a government that decides they don't
Speaker 12: like mining and resources extraction and who knows maybe farming
Speaker 12: is next, and will use some sort of way to
Speaker 12: use abcual protection to shut this down. It's a massive
Speaker 12: sovereign risk, isn't it.
Speaker 24: Of course it is, James. By all means one person
Speaker 24: should not have the right to have a rule an
Speaker 24: environmental protection which is past all that the Aboriginals are
Speaker 24: quite happy with, that it brings prosperity to the state,
Speaker 24: it brings jobs, brings money, and it needs to happen.
Speaker 24: One person should not be able to overrule that. We
Speaker 24: have set laws in place that they must be passed
Speaker 24: then to be approved, and for having minister to do that,
Speaker 24: I think it needs to be looked at. Anthony Albanesi
Speaker 24: needs to overrule her decision, because what's the whole point
Speaker 24: of going through environmental protection laws? You know, everyone goes
Speaker 24: through the whole process and then for one person to
Speaker 24: say no, sorry, you can't do it. It stinks to
Speaker 24: high heaven. To me, it sounds like there's more to
Speaker 24: this than what we're seeing. But anyway, I haven't got
Speaker 24: anything to go on with that. But that's just my
Speaker 24: opinion with it.
Speaker 2: It's what's happening.
Speaker 24: Across the country, the overruling. This government is so dead set.
Speaker 24: I'm shudding so much industry. What's happening in our country,
Speaker 24: the taking over of our land by the Aboriginal corporations.
Speaker 24: I fear for the future where we are headed the
Speaker 24: labor Greens government.
Speaker 1: Well, Pauline, I wanted to ask you about those fifteen
Speaker 1: Queensland towns being taken over.
Speaker 2: There's a list of them.
Speaker 1: I've had a letter from a guy called Rex, who's
Speaker 1: an Aboriginal elder in one of the towns to bea
Speaker 1: who's saying that he's writing about his concerns about the
Speaker 1: takeover there of the town common and other land there.
Speaker 1: It's the birthplace of his mother. He's an Aboriginal elder.
Speaker 1: He wasn't consulted. It's been taken. In other words, one
Speaker 1: mob takes it over, and yet another mob believes that
Speaker 1: it belongs to them, and probably with justification in this case.
Speaker 2: And we've seen this before.
Speaker 1: As you say, the threat to sovereignty, to sovereign rights
Speaker 1: and so on, seems to be out of control.
Speaker 24: It is out of control. Since Marlboro and the wik decision,
Speaker 24: the whole thing has just blung completely out of proportion.
Speaker 24: And they brought in the Native Title Act in nineteen
Speaker 24: ninety one in Queensland. Now since that time though, they
Speaker 24: actually handed over six point seven million hectares freehold Crowned
Speaker 24: Lane and to Aboriginal groups and organizations. Apart from that,
Speaker 24: Rowan John Howard put a billion dollars into a fund
Speaker 24: in perpeturity to actually buy land as well. Then you've
Speaker 24: got native title claim in Queens alone, we've got seventy
Speaker 24: three native title claims. Fifty four percent of Australia is
Speaker 24: now under native title, plus another twelve percent to be
Speaker 24: determined to pr Only this only came to light because
Speaker 24: the people have to be wrote to every politician. I
Speaker 24: was the only one that responded to them. I went out,
Speaker 24: I met the locals. They told me they had no
Speaker 24: consultation for a matter about three years. And it came
Speaker 24: to light because one of the locals wanted to buy
Speaker 24: some land was denied it. I spoke to Lawrence Springbok,
Speaker 24: who was a mayor, who was a former president of
Speaker 24: the LNP.
Speaker 14: He was all for it.
Speaker 24: He was kept undercover. He told me under state legislation
Speaker 24: there does not have to be consultation with the locals
Speaker 24: in the area. It must be kept secretive. This is
Speaker 24: what's happening. Fifteen towns throughout Queensland, Marr, Burrow, Mount eyeser
Speaker 24: to Be as you know, all these towns, this fifteen
Speaker 24: of them. People want to know what please go to
Speaker 24: our website and will inform you about it. But it
Speaker 24: is disgusting what it's happening. One Nation is the only
Speaker 24: party who's prepared to actually throw the Native Total Act
Speaker 24: in Queensland out. We are the only ones who's standing
Speaker 24: up for Chrisifully and the Labor Party are all for treaty.
Speaker 24: They are all for handing this land over to Aboriginal
Speaker 24: groups and organizations. Just recently, last week, four hundred and
Speaker 24: eighty four thousand hectares was handed over just two hundred
Speaker 24: kilometers two hundred fifty klometers from Tenant Creek. Now, this
Speaker 24: is going on continually all the time. It is dividing
Speaker 24: our nation. It is pitting black against white. I have
Speaker 24: always stood up for migrants, those born here, Aboriginal Torres,
Speaker 24: Strait Islanders. We are all the strands have a right
Speaker 24: to enjoy this country everything that has to offer equally.
Speaker 24: But I'll tell you something too. By getting hold of
Speaker 24: the land and under the Labor and the Coalition Party
Speaker 24: a few years ago, they actually then passed the Land
Speaker 24: and Sea Council. Now they've handed rights to the Commonwealth
Speaker 24: waters plus water above and below the ground, and they'll
Speaker 24: be looking at as well, so they have a right
Speaker 24: over that. We are in huge problems with this. This
Speaker 24: is the major political parties have done this too, divide
Speaker 24: this nation. I'm warning people we are the only ones
Speaker 24: who will put a stop this and make sure that
Speaker 24: every Australian, regardless of your cultural background, that we are
Speaker 24: actually titled to this country and not shut out from
Speaker 24: it or have to pay.
Speaker 2: Rent or tax on it. Fantastic Pauline Hanson.
Speaker 1: Always great to chat to you, Thanks so much and
Speaker 1: some wonderful insights there. Now there is a major police
Speaker 1: operation is underway an Engerdeen following reports to emergency services.
Speaker 1: The police officer and multiple civilians have quote multiple stab
Speaker 1: worms and lacerations.
Speaker 2: Will be back with more of that after the break.
Speaker 12: Hello, you're watching Outsiders with the routinely rapturous Rowan Dean,
Speaker 12: the perpetually pleased readA panahee, and I'm the generally jovial
Speaker 12: and joyful James Morrow. Now we've got breaking news out
Speaker 12: of Engadine suburb of Sydney. There's been a car crash
Speaker 12: and multiple people have reportedly been stabbed, including we're hearing
Speaker 12: a police officer.
Speaker 9: So stick with us.
Speaker 12: We're going to bring you more on that breaking situation
Speaker 12: a little bit later on in the program. But first
Speaker 12: let's go to the United States, where it has been
Speaker 12: barely forty eight hours since the Democrat National Convention ended
Speaker 12: in Chicago, but already the much trumpeted joy of the
Speaker 12: past week has already started to turn sour. First, there
Speaker 12: was the news that celebrity entertainment website TMZ was complicit
Speaker 12: in pumping up rumors that Beyonce was going to play
Speaker 12: at the convention on its last night, something that, if
Speaker 12: you ask me, was just part of a much bigger
Speaker 12: cynical media strategy to pump up viewer numbers in advance
Speaker 12: of Vice President Kamala Harris's big speech.
Speaker 9: I don't call me cynical.
Speaker 12: Then not long after that, there was another bombshell.
Speaker 9: Robert F.
Speaker 12: Kennedy Junior, the Independent candidate, announced that he was formally
Speaker 12: dropping out of the race and throwing his support behind
Speaker 12: You guessed it, Donald Trump. Now, I don't blame you
Speaker 12: if you haven't heard a lot about this, because, after all,
Speaker 12: if the media will lie about Beyonce being in, well,
Speaker 12: why would they tell you about Kennedy being out of
Speaker 12: the race, Particularly if this fact helped Donald Trump, who
Speaker 12: so much of the media now seemed to be sworn
Speaker 12: to work to defeat in November. But Trump and Kennedy
Speaker 12: made the announcement at a packed arena in Arizona. Have
Speaker 12: a look and see how wild the crowd goes here.
Speaker 1: He's a very low key person, but he's highly respected.
Speaker 9: He is a great person.
Speaker 20: I've known him for so long, for the past sixteen months.
Speaker 9: Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, you cannot fake that kind of energy.
Speaker 9: You cannot fake that kind of what's the deblocrat like
Speaker 9: to call it joy?
Speaker 12: Now Kennedy support also seem to be happy to throw
Speaker 12: their support to Trump.
Speaker 9: Supporter is like this, man.
Speaker 23: I think if he does drop out, I think a
Speaker 23: lot of people are gonna still support him regardless. I
Speaker 23: feel like at this point the country's kind of turning
Speaker 23: into everyone else versus the Democrats.
Speaker 9: If he drops out, are you going to be in
Speaker 9: support of Trump? Yeah? Yeah, I would.
Speaker 12: Now it's people like that who will be absolutely important
Speaker 12: in the coming election, because with polls tightening to make
Speaker 12: it basically an even match between Trump and Harris coming
Speaker 12: out of the convention, it is now the swing states,
Speaker 12: the equivalent of what we call here in Australia the
Speaker 12: marginal electorates that matter. It could make all the difference
Speaker 12: in the world. Kennedy has support of around five to
Speaker 12: six percent. Let's not forget in key states like Arizona,
Speaker 12: North Carolina, Nevada, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. States the Trump campaign
Speaker 12: needs to win and also numbers that are enough to
Speaker 12: push Trump back out of the margin of error into
Speaker 12: the winning category. And what we are now seeing is
Speaker 12: the development of a one sided contest of ideas. On
Speaker 12: the Democrat side, they are running from ideas. They just
Speaker 12: had a week long love fest in Chicago where all
Speaker 12: they talked about was bringing the joy while also hating
Speaker 12: on Donald Trump. But thirty four days after deposing Joe
Speaker 12: Biden from the race, Kamala Harris has still not done
Speaker 12: one done anything remotely resembling a real press conference, And
Speaker 12: one of their biggest ideas, no taxes on tips, was
Speaker 12: stolen blatantly from the Trump campaign. Now, Kennedy himself called
Speaker 12: out this media strategy, or lack thereof.
Speaker 3: I do interviews every day. Many of you have interviewed me.
Speaker 3: Anybody who asks gets to interview me. Some days I
Speaker 3: do as many as ten. President Trump, who actually was
Speaker 3: nominated and won an election, also does interviews daily. How
Speaker 3: did the Democratic Party choose a candidate that has never
Speaker 3: done an interview or debate during the entire election cycle.
Speaker 12: Even more importantly than that, in that speech, Kennedy also
Speaker 12: called out what his party, the party he grew up
Speaker 12: in as Democrat Royalty. He called out what the Democrats
Speaker 12: have become.
Speaker 3: As you know, I left that party in October because
Speaker 3: it had departed so dramatically from the core of values
Speaker 3: that I grew up with. It had become the party
Speaker 3: of war, censorship, corruption, big pharma. I'm big tech, big
Speaker 3: ag and big money wanted an abandoned democracy by canceling
Speaker 3: the primary to CEO the cognitive decline of the sitting president.
Speaker 12: As I always say, the Democrat Party is as democratic
Speaker 12: as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Not surprisingly, though,
Speaker 12: networks like CNN and NBC cut away from that speech
Speaker 12: as soon as RFK started talking about things like corporate censorship.
Speaker 9: How ironic.
Speaker 12: Meanwhile, whether or not you like them or not, the
Speaker 12: Trump vance and now Kennedy t is actually talking about
Speaker 12: big ideas, even some things that might be controversial, like
Speaker 12: the Kennedy assassination and big tech and big pharma and
Speaker 12: all of that and their roles in chronic disease. You
Speaker 12: know what, whenever you think of all that, say, bring it.
Speaker 2: On, great stuff.
Speaker 1: James Well joining us now is Formula senior advisor to
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Christian Christian Great to see you what a.
Speaker 2: Conference it was or convention.
Speaker 21: It was.
Speaker 1: Therefore the Democrats, I'm not convinced that they achieved what
Speaker 1: they set out to do, which was to try and
Speaker 1: make Kamala Harris electable.
Speaker 2: I still firmly believe Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Will win this election, and particularly after what James was
Speaker 1: talking about with the Kennedys, with the Kennedy support, I
Speaker 1: think Trump will win this election. Although the Democrats and
Speaker 1: the Democrat media will try every trick in the book.
Speaker 1: I even believe they will try some of the tricks
Speaker 1: they used in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: They will hard to fortify another election.
Speaker 2: Nice way of putting it, and a lot of.
Speaker 4: The polling if you actually look at the sampling, there's
Speaker 4: a few triggy things being done there too, a bit
Speaker 4: of a deeper look. But I'm not one hundred percent
Speaker 4: convinced that this endorsement from a Kennedy, though I know
Speaker 4: it's a Kennedy and he's got his supporters, is a
Speaker 4: huge win for Trump, because I do worry about the
Speaker 4: people who supported him, who are essentially never Trumpers, but
Speaker 4: they couldn't be backing the Democrats in the.
Speaker 5: Way about governing at the moment.
Speaker 1: So sorry, So I want us to have this discussion,
Speaker 1: but I'm just quickly going to go to this breaking news.
Speaker 1: The statement from the New South Wales Police, I'll just
Speaker 1: read it to you. It says emergency services are responding
Speaker 1: to an incident at enger Den where four people, including
Speaker 1: a police officer, have been injured following a crash and
Speaker 1: suspected stabbing. A short time ago, multiple calls were made
Speaker 1: to Triple zero Triple O after a two vehicle crash
Speaker 1: at the intersection of Princess Highway and Old Bush Road
Speaker 1: about nine am this morning. Officers attached to Sutherlandshire Police
Speaker 1: Area Command arrived to find a man who appeared to
Speaker 1: be suffering stab wounds allegedly running from the crash scene.
Speaker 1: He was taken into custody with the deployment of a taser.
Speaker 1: A male police officer suffered a serious laceration to his
Speaker 1: left wrist, believed to have been incurred during the arrest.
Speaker 1: A woman understood to be a passenger in the crashed
Speaker 1: vehicle has been found, also suffering multiple wounds. A fourth
Speaker 1: person has been found injured. It's unclear at this time
Speaker 1: what that person's involvement is in this incident.
Speaker 2: This is the report from the New.
Speaker 1: South Wales police, it goes on, are being treated by
Speaker 1: New South Wales Ambulance paramedics. The Prince's Highway is closed
Speaker 1: in both directions. Take note of that drivers are urged
Speaker 1: to avoid the area.
Speaker 2: We'll have more of that.
Speaker 1: After the break, and we'll carry on our discussion about
Speaker 1: American politics. And of course canbra clown show all coming
Speaker 1: up after the break in a roll up, roll up
Speaker 1: step right this way. It's the wackiest show on earth.
Speaker 1: It's the Candra clown Show where the communists are having
Speaker 1: a real party this week. Fortunately, the good Senator Malcolm
Speaker 1: Roberts was in Parliament struggling to make any sense whatsoever
Speaker 1: out of Bobo Bowen's revolutionary anti capitalist new vehicle emissions
Speaker 1: standards legislation commonly called the ute tax. Climate Change and
Speaker 1: Energy Minister Chris Bowen claims on his website that quote
Speaker 1: Australian motorists will soon be able to choose from a
Speaker 1: wider range of cleaner, cheaper to run cars, with the
Speaker 1: Parliament passing the legislation for the alban Easy Government's new
Speaker 1: vehicle emissiencies standard choose, how much choice will they really have?
Speaker 1: How are Senator Roberts do the governments intend to persuade
Speaker 1: every day Australians to buy or choose electric vehicles if
Speaker 1: they don't actually want them. Manufacturer, because they on the
Speaker 1: one hand of a government that says decrease the size
Speaker 1: of the car.
Speaker 20: The weight the fuel, increased fuel efficiency, but the customers
Speaker 20: saying they do the opposite. The customers don't think in
Speaker 20: terms of carbon ducts.
Speaker 25: Because I know it's our senator, I think, as I
Speaker 25: mentioned to a previous answer just before, that the manufacturers
Speaker 25: are able to make commercial decisions as to what their
Speaker 25: fleet looks like. The standard looks at their whole fleet,
Speaker 25: and there are a range of ways that manufacturers can
Speaker 25: meet the standard.
Speaker 1: So, just to be clear to me, it looks like
Speaker 1: these strict new standards really about the government attempting to
Speaker 1: manipulate the market by forcing manufacturers to put undue pressure
Speaker 1: on customers in order to meet the government mandated sales targets,
Speaker 1: which are not on individual vehicles, but rather across their
Speaker 1: entire stock. That's what putting the onus on the whole
Speaker 1: fleet means. The government is forcing the manufacturers and car
Speaker 1: dealers to sell x number of certain vehicles in order
Speaker 1: to be allowed to sell y number of completely different
Speaker 1: different vehicles, and if they fails, they will be punished.
Speaker 1: If a private cartel did the same thing, they would
Speaker 1: potentially be violating antitrust or anti monopoly laws in my opinion,
Speaker 1: or guilty of dishonest marketing or even predatory pricing. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, they'd be off to jail. But not the
Speaker 1: clowns in the Burly Griffin big Top. Oh oh, but
Speaker 1: just listen how the bureaucrats flounder around to explain the
Speaker 1: intricacies of Chris Bowen's vehicle emissions policies.
Speaker 26: One of the features of the policy is to include
Speaker 26: a few flexibility mechanisms, and the first one is to
Speaker 26: include two targets, one target for passenger vehicles and a
Speaker 26: higher target for light commercial vehicles. And the second flexibility
Speaker 26: mechanism in the scheme is to adjust the limit by weight.
Speaker 26: So you might have a particular Toyota klugar, for example,
Speaker 26: and that will have a particular mass in running order,
Speaker 26: and therefore the target against for that vehicle of the
Speaker 26: fleet of vehicles that that weight will be adjusted. Then
Speaker 26: the third thing is that in any given year a
Speaker 26: vehicle supplier might bring in too many vehicles that are
Speaker 26: that are too polluting, and they've got two years after
Speaker 26: that point to bring their what's called their initial emissions
Speaker 26: value down to zero.
Speaker 2: What a load of waffles? Silly me.
Speaker 1: I thought it was all about fuel efficiency, But according
Speaker 1: to the boffins, the sole purpose the new ledge is
Speaker 1: to force emissions down to zero. How have I listened
Speaker 1: to this classic bit of Canberra circular logic.
Speaker 26: The purpose of the new vehicle Efficiency standard is to
Speaker 26: improve the efficiency of new vehicles. It's not to drive
Speaker 26: a particular type of vehicle or particular type of outcome,
Speaker 26: except for reduced emissions.
Speaker 2: That's the purpose of the policy.
Speaker 1: So we're not going to decree what vehicles the public
Speaker 1: can choose. Heaven forbid, so long as all the vehicles
Speaker 1: the public chooses eventually have zero emissions. Sounds to me
Speaker 1: like they are doing exactly what they say they are
Speaker 1: not doing. This sort of bureaucratic mandates and grand schemes
Speaker 1: reminds me of the old Soviet Union, where grand five
Speaker 1: year plans and decrees with a norm. For example, his
Speaker 1: Comrade Krushchev's Grand Plan in nineteen fifty seven to solve
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union's chronic underhousing problem with his development of
Speaker 1: housing and construction and the Soviet Union degree.
Speaker 13: The decrease stipulated the following points. One the liquidation of
Speaker 13: a lack of housing for working people in the next
Speaker 13: ten to twelve years, two the construction of apartments suitable
Speaker 13: for a family in both rural and urban areas, and
Speaker 13: three the increase of overall living space in the USSR
Speaker 13: to two hundred and fifteen million square meters of space.
Speaker 1: So allow me, if I may to take the liberty
Speaker 1: of putting Comrade Bowen's Nuvik vehicle efficiency standard legislation into
Speaker 1: similar Soviet era.
Speaker 2: Style jargon to see if it fits.
Speaker 1: I suspect Comrade Krushchev would have called it the eradication
Speaker 1: of carbon emissions in the Socialist Republic of Australia Decree,
Speaker 1: and it would have gone something like this. One the
Speaker 1: liquidation of petrol and diesegal vehicles in the next four
Speaker 1: to five years, two compulsory electric vehicles to families in
Speaker 1: all urban and rural areas, and three the overall increase
Speaker 1: of electric charging stations across Australia's one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: nine million square meters of space. Sounds great a what
Speaker 1: possibly could go wrong, sadly plenty. Here's Advance Australia.
Speaker 27: Under elbow and violence view US tax A Ford Ranger
Speaker 27: will cost you an extra six thy one hundred dollars,
Speaker 27: rio Ida land Cruiser that will cost you an extra
Speaker 27: thirteen grand more than it does today, and it.
Speaker 15: Doesn't stop at use.
Speaker 27: Family cars even hybrids are on the chopping block for
Speaker 27: the camera crusade and against affordable vehicles. All this to
Speaker 27: pressure us to buy unaffordable evs like this two fifty
Speaker 27: grand electric ute that the Energy Minister Chris Bowen has
Speaker 27: been sprooking.
Speaker 2: And that's just for starters.
Speaker 1: Forward announced this week that they have canceled their electric
Speaker 1: SUVs program due to softer than expected demand. So there
Speaker 1: goes the electric youth Chris Bowe and was proudly tarting
Speaker 1: not so many months ago.
Speaker 2: But that's not really surprising.
Speaker 1: You see, central planning and price controls and attempting to
Speaker 1: mandate how the market works has a long and noble
Speaker 1: tradition of catastrophic failure. Here's how one Soviet architect described
Speaker 1: kris Chev's grand plan that I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 13: Existing standardized models of small sized departments can't in any
Speaker 13: way satisfy the people in the present, let alone the future.
Speaker 13: It isn't normal when you can't put a cold closet
Speaker 13: in an entrance way, when people have to drag in
Speaker 13: their furniture through the falcony, and we're sorry to see
Speaker 13: carry a coffin almost vertically.
Speaker 1: Central planning does not work, never has and never will,
Speaker 1: no matter how much waffle and obfuscation and circular logic
Speaker 1: is dished up by the bureaucrats. Further evidence of the
Speaker 1: foolishness of our energy policy came this week when we
Speaker 1: learned that Rio Tinto's aluminium smelter, which promised to switch
Speaker 1: to a renewable energy power which we keep being told
Speaker 1: is the cheapest form of energy, is now being subsidized
Speaker 1: by the Queensland taxpayer. Yep, that's due to an undisclosed
Speaker 1: amount in order to keep it operating. Senator Matt Canavan
Speaker 1: was rightly appalled.
Speaker 10: Why do they need subsidies for energy costs off their
Speaker 10: installing the cheapest form of power replacing coal fire power
Speaker 10: in this case, and glasson with wind and solid but
Speaker 10: they need a subsidy.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 10: Why exactly, every president can't we know how much this
Speaker 10: subsidy is to one of the biggest companies in this country.
Speaker 10: The green energy scam continues apace and all of us,
Speaker 10: all of us are paying for it.
Speaker 1: But back to our grand Soviet era plans. Who can
Speaker 1: forget Stalin's amazing series of five year plans to collectivize
Speaker 1: farming in the Ukraine in order to mandate price controls
Speaker 1: over grain harvesting in order to make sure everybody could
Speaker 1: get plenty to eat. It led to one of the
Speaker 1: worst famines in European history, with people dying in the
Speaker 1: streets and the death of between three and five million
Speaker 1: people and great stuff there. And finally, speaking of communists
Speaker 1: meddling with farmers, former young socialist and now Prime Minister
Speaker 1: Anthony Albanizi made more than a fool of himself at
Speaker 1: a rural women's dinner this week when he decided to
Speaker 1: mock the live sheep trade, the very trade he and
Speaker 1: his former agricultural czar murraywater Commie willfully destroyed. That's right,
Speaker 1: when we had dinner, beautiful Australian beef, not the live expert.
Speaker 2: The we've made sure it was dead. Yeah, mocking your audience,
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 1: Prime Minister to people lost their businesses, lost their trade,
Speaker 1: lost their income at a time of soaring energy prices,
Speaker 1: record bankruptcies and the cost of living crisis.
Speaker 2: But you think it's just one big joke. The peasants
Speaker 2: are revolting. Let them eat dead beef.
Speaker 1: What a clown show. Communists and their revolutionary plans. What
Speaker 1: would the Beetles say,