Speaker 1: It's all the best stat is What do you what
Speaker 1: do you think about the respective sides?
Speaker 2: Firstly your Coins Land side, well.
Speaker 3: I think from both teams, I think sort of injuries
Speaker 3: have played a part. You know, both Laurie and Billy
Speaker 3: would have had a plan and then a few injuries
Speaker 3: late sort of change those. I think there's definitely a
Speaker 3: different style of play. I think I think the Moses
Speaker 3: Cleary Yo combination is something that is repetition trust, so
Speaker 3: there's a lot of combo work in that and they
Speaker 3: will move the football around a little bit more yep
Speaker 3: for the Maroons and that sort of storm combination of
Speaker 3: Munster and put Harry Grant in that throw Kalin in
Speaker 3: the back. I think Billy's game plan will be long
Speaker 3: game and one of their best players to come up
Speaker 3: with a play, if that makes sense. I don't think
Speaker 3: there's a lot of combination work compared to the New
Speaker 3: South Wales side, but I think both have strengths and weaknesses.
Speaker 1: What do you reckon good looking pack coins pack wake
Speaker 1: Tina ruben Cot I love corderis player Jeremiah and I
Speaker 1: is a good form and Carrying's got that mouth injury,
Speaker 1: but he's going to be okay, Yeah, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a strong pack with Harry Grant through the middle.
Speaker 2: It's it's funny looking at.
Speaker 1: The the nature of the Queensland back line.
Speaker 2: It's very much attack based.
Speaker 1: And when you look at New South Wales, which get
Speaker 1: to in a second, it's more you know, I look
Speaker 1: at I look at our wingers and our and our
Speaker 1: full back.
Speaker 2: It's very much yardage based. But look Queensland.
Speaker 1: Look monster there hammer the bench, Ded and Lindsay Collins
Speaker 1: both for more gets the start world done, Trentley eero.
Speaker 2: But the big one is Robert Toyer.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah was it ten games into his career and
Speaker 3: he's playing origin That normally doesn't happen for some of
Speaker 3: the best players. They ever well in the game, really well.
Speaker 2: As you know, if Billy picks him, you know he's
Speaker 2: ready thorough.
Speaker 3: Yes, if Billy's watched more football than you and I, right,
Speaker 3: But we sit there and have seen glimpses of what
Speaker 3: Robert Toyer can do. And there's no doubt that he
Speaker 3: has got big stage written all over. That sort of
Speaker 3: right foot, that fan, he's got a flick passing him.
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what he's going to have to
Speaker 3: have one of the best defensive performance in his lifetime
Speaker 3: because he will be coming up against Latroll Mitchell. That's
Speaker 3: the that's the disadvantage for you. If I'm sitting in Queensland,
Speaker 3: You've got Hammer and Rob Toyer against Stephen Crichton and
Speaker 3: Latrell Mitchell. Yes, yeah, that's that's that's a mismatch if
Speaker 3: you just put on paper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on paper.
Speaker 1: I said before about Latrell and Stephen Crichton growing up
Speaker 1: watching Origin through the eighties and remind does remind me
Speaker 1: as far as physical presence and intimidation June Miles of Malmeninger.
Speaker 2: It's got that, It's got that that big.
Speaker 3: How Okay, if you've got Stephen and Latrell and your
Speaker 3: Moses and Cleary, what's your style of play?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about that right.
Speaker 1: So I look at the New South Wales side and
Speaker 1: it's a great yardage side, great YARDI side Dylan Edbwood,
Speaker 1: Brian Zach Lomax.
Speaker 2: They will dominate yardage, They'll alleviate a lot of pressure
Speaker 2: off the forwards.
Speaker 1: And if New South Wales can win yardage, that means
Speaker 1: that we will consistently put Nathan Cleary in a position
Speaker 1: for attacking kicks. And as you know, if you've got
Speaker 1: Nathan consistently getting down there and be able to put
Speaker 1: in the attacking kicks, then you he's going to start
Speaker 1: nailing them.
Speaker 2: You know they're going to start. He's going to produce tries.
Speaker 1: So if we're talking about the style of football will play,
Speaker 1: I think simplicity. I think simplicity, very direct, get up field.
Speaker 1: I don't want to I've said this before, to start
Speaker 1: the game. I really want to see Nathan and Mitchell
Speaker 1: Moses running the football early, get their compass right. Don't
Speaker 1: want to see the ball just pushed sideways. I think
Speaker 1: you know that will go away from our strengths out
Speaker 1: the strength of this New South Wales side with those
Speaker 1: back threes.
Speaker 2: Is going to be playing nice and direct.
Speaker 3: I think New South Wales has got more combination work
Speaker 3: with the ability to move the football when is Aeo
Speaker 3: goes there, like his ability to know when to pull
Speaker 3: the trigger and pass. And Nathan he's better than anyone
Speaker 3: else in the game, so he'll understand when to run
Speaker 3: and when to pass. I just feel like with those
Speaker 3: centers that you have, they need to get the ball
Speaker 3: at some stage right. So you're going to shift the
Speaker 3: ball promoted to give them the opportunity one on one.
Speaker 1: It's funny you said about moving the football there. I
Speaker 1: think New South Wales has got to be They've got
Speaker 1: to be selected when they shift the ball.
Speaker 2: I suppose what I want to see is a little
Speaker 2: bit of a shift there, a little bit of shift there.
Speaker 1: Go back to a little bit shift what you're looking for.
Speaker 1: If we're going to move for pole playing nice and direct,
Speaker 1: get the ball to an edge and then open the
Speaker 1: field up.
Speaker 2: You know, if that's we got the ability.
Speaker 1: For Latrell and Stephen Crichton to move and start to
Speaker 1: swing together on one side of the field, and.
Speaker 3: Then for Queensland to win. I think their style of
Speaker 3: player is going to be, like I said earlier, a
Speaker 3: little bit more long gamish than New South Wales. If
Speaker 3: they're foward, per can be dominant for longer periods, keep
Speaker 3: the score line close. I think Munster, I think Calen
Speaker 3: Ponger and I think Harry Grant have individual bruants in them,
Speaker 3: so it's more like a team game. To get to
Speaker 3: the seventy fifth minute and then one of the best players,
Speaker 3: yeah strike I from Queensland. I'm worried about Latrelle and
Speaker 3: Stephen Crichton whose New South Wales worried about.
Speaker 2: For Queensland, it looks it's Munster, you know.
Speaker 1: And because we've said this before, when you talk about
Speaker 1: the greatest Oriagin players of all time, we always looked
Speaker 1: at the past with rose colored glasses, you know, we
Speaker 1: glorify the past a.
Speaker 2: Lot of times.
Speaker 1: But when you talk about the greatest Origin plays of
Speaker 1: all time, he's got to be. He's got to be
Speaker 1: in the conversation. Things he has done for Queensland, you know,
Speaker 1: when they've needed in big games, in big moments, he
Speaker 1: just always stands up.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: You talk about that Origin debut where he got Men
Speaker 1: of the Match and you blokes tell me that his
Speaker 1: last training session going into that game is probably the
Speaker 1: worst training session. Now, how are we going to shuffle
Speaker 1: this flag out of the seamon?
Speaker 3: He came up to me and said, mate, what do
Speaker 3: I do? I just trained so bad? I said, mate,
Speaker 3: just keep doing what you doing. He'd be right mate,
Speaker 3: But that that mindset like is what makes him great.
Speaker 3: And I feel like if he can rub off on
Speaker 3: Kaylen Palmer who's coming from Newcastle, that's he's in he's
Speaker 3: in a run himself at Clubland. But what Kaylen has
Speaker 3: done for Queensland over his course, there's flashes of brilliance. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Like if if, if Billy can
Speaker 3: just get Kaylen in a really good spot. I just
Speaker 3: think that combination of Munster and Kaylen Pomer together, particularly
Speaker 3: on both their favored left hand side, could be the
Speaker 3: thing for Queenland.
Speaker 2: Just on Munster. He was on the show last night.
Speaker 1: He's a character that's not that bad, but like he's
Speaker 1: just he's a class actor and particularly the way he
Speaker 1: has a lot to be made. But I no want
Speaker 1: to go on about but how he's turned his life around.
Speaker 1: You sitting there last night, like kicking the burs and
Speaker 1: stopping that, I mean, you know that's hard to do
Speaker 1: because a lot of it is culture. We get there
Speaker 1: in rugby league. I said it last night. You know,
Speaker 1: you have a win, you want to have a beer.
Speaker 1: You have a loss, you want to have a beer.
Speaker 1: You let's find a reason to have a beer together.
Speaker 1: And for Munster to actually kick that and turn his
Speaker 1: life around. It's a lot more difficult than you know,
Speaker 1: than it seems. So he's incredible. How Fitty looks eighty
Speaker 1: nine key laps.
Speaker 3: The great players always find something to improve in. Now,
Speaker 3: you and I sit here and say, there's not a
Speaker 3: lot he can improve on the football field, right, But
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, there's a fair chunk he could
Speaker 3: improve off the field to help that. And there's no
Speaker 3: doubt that anyone that's sort of overtakes the mickey, but
Speaker 3: anyone that's sort of gone off the drink or applied
Speaker 3: themselves more. The proof is in the performance. It shows
Speaker 3: up at some stage.
Speaker 2: And it shows the attitude. It shows attitude.
Speaker 1: Preg nomination for New South Wales is Nahing Cleary, Mitchell Moses,
Speaker 1: and on paper and in theory this is a brilliant combination.
Speaker 1: But as we said before, Mitchell's in the six and
Speaker 1: there's no doubt Mitchell probably will have to play left
Speaker 1: to play a slightly different role that does with paramount.
Speaker 3: I think, yes, I agree, and there'll be a sort
Speaker 3: of let one go, you know, the other one stands
Speaker 3: up and takes. But I really like how Laurie Day
Speaker 3: explained that decision. The kicking game in Origin is crucial
Speaker 3: and Mitchell moses the best kicker from fifty meters plus.
Speaker 3: He'll turn an average set into a great set and
Speaker 3: if he can control the long game kicking and as
Speaker 3: it gets closer to the trialer Nathan controls a little
Speaker 3: bit more. I think that's the ying and the yang
Speaker 3: that work for New South Wales and ultimately, if you
Speaker 3: want to New South Wales to win, those two will
Speaker 3: find the best read of I think that's where it sits.
Speaker 1: And it's a great combination coop because I mean their
Speaker 1: big game experience, particularly Nathan, but Mitchell's a lot of
Speaker 1: big game experience as well, and he's got that and
Speaker 1: Mitchell's got plenty of healthy against so going up to
Speaker 1: some Corps stadium is not gonna worry either of because
Speaker 1: as you're no coops like and I say this fair
Speaker 1: bit young playmakers, when you're going into really big games,
Speaker 1: it's really important going into big games, when you're in
Speaker 1: the halves amongst all the chaos is going on, You've
Speaker 1: got to keep your head and you've you've got to
Speaker 1: control your adrenaline. Ice fine, and it's tempted when you
Speaker 1: get into those really big games and the adrenaline starts
Speaker 1: pouring through you and the first thing you start to
Speaker 1: do is.
Speaker 2: Zinging the ball around sidelines.
Speaker 1: Is sold on a little bit where these two blokes
Speaker 1: know what it takes to win big games. Very level headed,
Speaker 1: very good pushing sides around the park.
Speaker 2: It's great combination.
Speaker 3: If you're Billy, what are you doing with Tom Didon?
Speaker 3: What's your plan? Because he is more than just a
Speaker 3: player that sits there.
Speaker 1: Is Yeah, well, I mean, I mean you're not going
Speaker 1: to replace Munster or DC, you know, so it's an
Speaker 1: interesting one.
Speaker 2: Coops, So what do you do?
Speaker 1: I mean, does he is he there just to relieve
Speaker 1: Harry Grant?
Speaker 3: I think Harry Grant stays out there too. The thing
Speaker 3: for me is, I think Billy needs to tie the
Speaker 3: injection of Tom Diddon. Patrick Carrigan is a beast. He
Speaker 3: will play eighty minutes, but to him be full throttle
Speaker 3: and lead that pack will be hard for him to do.
Speaker 3: So it's almost like you get Carrigan off after thirty minutes,
Speaker 3: put Diaden on it lock if the game is in
Speaker 3: your favor, if there's a swing of possession coming Queensland's way,
Speaker 3: get him on the field strike and then after five
Speaker 3: minutes in the second half, if it feels like it's
Speaker 3: gone the la, get Carrigan back out there for a
Speaker 3: period of time, then he might be able to strike
Speaker 3: with fifteen to go again. But he is too valuable
Speaker 3: because the greatest strength of Tom Didon is the show
Speaker 3: and go. Once there's fatigue in the game of origin,
Speaker 3: I don't care who you are, the fuel tank is empty,
Speaker 3: and if he's in front of you, that speed and
Speaker 3: footwork and the sharpness at which he comes at you
Speaker 3: at I think that could be a play. But he
Speaker 3: needs to time that card perfectly because if it's defending
Speaker 3: all the time, he's just going to be caught the
Speaker 3: washing machine at all.
Speaker 1: Talking about the Cooper, He's perfectly suit into that thirteen role, isn't.
Speaker 2: He's got all the attributes you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's quick, he's got good he's got good first
Speaker 1: step quickness, he's got the show and go a little
Speaker 1: bit of skill, he's got good footwork.
Speaker 2: But crucially he's tough and.
Speaker 3: That's why I say he'll make his tackles. But the
Speaker 3: timing of when Queensland, if Billy can predict the possession
Speaker 3: count go in their favor for a ten minute period,
Speaker 3: that's when you get him on the field. Anyone.
Speaker 2: No, Corey Harsbrough and that surprise that surprises me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the Lindsay Collins back in after one game.
Speaker 3: Maybe he could have played there, but Lindsay's done it.
Speaker 3: Lindsay's the type of guy that you give him that color,
Speaker 3: that jersey that you're wearing right now. I know he
Speaker 3: puts the Superman cape on, right, So I think that's
Speaker 3: the one year. But I don't mind Furmore and Lierro
Speaker 3: like there's a little bit of enthursdays and there, and
Speaker 3: the way that Billy has coached the likes of Riese
Speaker 3: Walsh particularly Robbed Twitter. He put Hammer in the centers
Speaker 3: when everyone was like, oh, I don't know, Like he
Speaker 3: backs youth because he sees a lot of energy energy
Speaker 3: in them.
Speaker 2: Just looking in your southwest side.
Speaker 1: As I've said before, if I was Lorry, you know
Speaker 1: i'd be I'd be sitting down in the last two
Speaker 1: weeks going okay, where can I can I get perhaps
Speaker 1: in there somewhere.
Speaker 3: What are you thinking about? Max King?
Speaker 1: It's a it's an interesting one weld under world under maxis.
Speaker 2: He's been obviously club for club form because.
Speaker 3: You think about that pack and it's got Kurt Man
Speaker 3: and Hayward play there a little bit like they're a
Speaker 3: smallish pack compared But his performance up against the Roosters
Speaker 3: was very good. Yeah, he got smashed early on, but
Speaker 3: then he was the biggest body in the middle that
Speaker 3: turned the tide for the Dogs. And it just goes
Speaker 3: to show that. You know, there's some other players that
Speaker 3: were spoken more about. Ye May was in there, Stefano.
Speaker 3: You talkmo, But Max King? How can I say this
Speaker 3: comparatively to those guys? Max King probably does the one
Speaker 3: if that makes sense. If someone needs to tackle himself
Speaker 3: for a standstill for what fifteen to twenty minutes, I
Speaker 3: think that's why Laurie would have gone with Max King.
Speaker 1: Well done Max, and to the family too. He's got
Speaker 1: four generations of footballers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his dad was.
Speaker 1: A good footballer. He played for the Gold Coast Surguls.
Speaker 1: His grandfather, Johnny is a legend, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: Johnny won mile of premierships with those incredible Saint George's
Speaker 1: teams and then went and coasted Western Vision. They call
Speaker 1: it the Last Ferry, the Last Great fairy Tale, where
Speaker 1: they went Western Vision were put into the midweek the
Speaker 1: Panasonic Cup or the MC Cup and won the whole thing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they'd be very, very proud nose.
Speaker 1: Last week we're talking about just telling a lie of
Speaker 1: the football, and we did a lot of it last week,
Speaker 1: but Lucky Galvin last night did a little one and
Speaker 1: it just showed again the benefit of it. And you're
Speaker 1: seeing Jamie Humphries. That little look in makes Humphreys turn in.
Speaker 1: He's runner on the outside. Didn't quite give him enough time.
Speaker 1: And you were just talking about there we probably overplayed
Speaker 1: a little bit too much.
Speaker 3: You're saying we might be influencing the halves and the competition.
Speaker 1: Oh it must watch television.
Speaker 3: This is good, but I think it could be so
Speaker 3: much better. See that the double look like he overplayed
Speaker 3: his hand. If you talk about that rail play where
Speaker 3: you've got one support player inside you, which is Puller
Speaker 3: and save Farth on the outside, if he looks in
Speaker 3: at Buller and stays straighter for a little bit longer
Speaker 3: and then snaps out hard to Humphreys, I think you
Speaker 3: put save Farth the way. I think you just overcooked
Speaker 3: it slightly like there you go straight see that double
Speaker 3: look he went out in out again? Yes, I think
Speaker 3: if he was just square and went looked in here
Speaker 3: and then bounced out to Humphreys. I think he puts yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: back roll through.
Speaker 1: And it just shows that doesn't know what would talk
Speaker 1: talking about how it disorientates the defense. So Jamie Humphreys
Speaker 1: when he looks in, Jamie Humphreys as well looks in
Speaker 1: and goes towards him.
Speaker 2: Dogs, Warriors and Sharks. You want to make a point
Speaker 2: about these sorts, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Warriors, Warriors, Raiders, Sharks. So the Dogs are in first,
Speaker 3: Storm are in fourth. Both of those teams have some
Speaker 3: origin affected players. The Storm have been there a thousand times.
Speaker 3: They'll know how to get through it. The Dogs this
Speaker 3: is their first sort of time having a big chunk
Speaker 3: of players involved. So I feel like the Sharks don't
Speaker 3: have one origin player, the Warriors of Barnett, the Raiders
Speaker 3: have young. I think it's an opportunity for these three teams,
Speaker 3: particularly if you go and have a look at the draw.
Speaker 3: I think the Sharks, the Warriors, and the Raiders it's
Speaker 3: time for them to win a big chunk. I'm saying
Speaker 3: six seven of the next eight take advantage of the
Speaker 3: rest of the competition and fly out there and solidified
Speaker 3: top four spot. Because those two teams don't want to
Speaker 3: drop a top four spot, but these other three aren't
Speaker 3: affected during Origin have a chance to move one of
Speaker 3: those teams out for that run home towards back in
Speaker 3: the year.
Speaker 2: It's I think Dogs, Warriors and Raiders that started the.
Speaker 1: Year moving into the mid season, for those guys to
Speaker 1: be one, two, three, jeez, what odds you would get?
Speaker 1: I mean, they're playing great football, like those three sides.
Speaker 1: Is there anything in the game? Is there anything this
Speaker 1: year apart from just natural improvement in those sides that
Speaker 1: has basically turned the turn that the ladder on its
Speaker 1: head a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think for the Sharks, I think they're a consistent
Speaker 3: team on the Fitzgibbon that they have been. They've played
Speaker 3: finals probably once of big games, but I feel like
Speaker 3: they've done the foundation of the last three years and
Speaker 3: they're about to spring like they're about to understand what
Speaker 3: it takes. The Warriors, for me, I think the Fisher
Speaker 3: Harris Barnett leadership with the injection of Luke Metcalf. Shawn
Speaker 3: Johnson was there, who was a legend of the Warriors
Speaker 3: in New Zealand, but Luke's bought this sort of youthful enthusiasm,
Speaker 3: leg speed and they capitalize on it, like some of
Speaker 3: the defensive efforts and the moments that he has had
Speaker 3: in the last few weeks, like he's a gun player.
Speaker 3: And the Raiders, for me, I think they've just got
Speaker 3: good balance between tough forward pack and aergetic outside backs.
Speaker 3: But they if they can win I'm going to say
Speaker 3: six on the next eight. Seven in the next eight,
Speaker 3: I think they're going to start believing that they can
Speaker 3: win the premiership definitely, and you look at you go
Speaker 3: have a look at their their run potentially, like they've
Speaker 3: got the Warriors, Rooster's South, then the bye after that
Speaker 3: if they have won a big chunk of those. After that,
Speaker 3: buy they've got teams towards the bottom of the ladder
Speaker 3: and that could be a big thing for them. Finishing
Speaker 3: top four and believing like that team I think needs
Speaker 3: to believe that they can win it.
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of young guys on the
Speaker 1: side make very fast side. Crucially've all got football ko weeks.
Speaker 1: He Cheezy was good yesterday, particularly in the first half.
Speaker 3: So was it Tarpani, Papoli and young So they've played
Speaker 3: big chunk of finals back when Ricky got the Grand
Speaker 3: Final in nineteen either side of that, but that outside
Speaker 3: backs probably haven't played from off the tom. I had
Speaker 3: a lot of big games. Yeah, so they need to
Speaker 3: know that they're second third, you know, not going to
Speaker 3: miss out on top four player home final. Like I
Speaker 3: think that's something that those outside backs probably need. Belief
Speaker 3: and confidence.
Speaker 1: You just said about Luke Metcalf and I just just
Speaker 1: wrote here. As we move into the halfway part of
Speaker 1: the season, you know, Gold, Silver, Bronze as far as
Speaker 1: individual players, and I've gone gold Stephen Crichton, I think
Speaker 1: on because it's more than just performance, it's leadership an
Speaker 1: impact he's.
Speaker 2: Having on this competition.
Speaker 1: Silver, I've gone Luke Metcalf for all the things you've
Speaker 1: explained there, and Bronze.
Speaker 2: Adam feriniul Blake.
Speaker 1: His performance souther nine against the Storm was one of
Speaker 1: the best yardach performance I have seen. You know, as
Speaker 1: you know, Coop, if you can run for over one
Speaker 1: hundred meter you're doing good. He had over one hundred
Speaker 1: post contact meters. For people don't know what's when once
Speaker 1: you hit hit the defensive line, how you drive through.
Speaker 3: So put it in context. You and I never had
Speaker 3: post contact meters one hundred in one game.
Speaker 1: He has been He has been incredible and as you
Speaker 1: said before, finally now going into this season, everyone looked
Speaker 1: at the addition of him into this side and go, okay,
Speaker 1: now they're a contender. They're showing that. Now finally they're
Speaker 1: showing to put you.
Speaker 3: On the spot here, Luke Metcalfe half Back of the
Speaker 3: year right now. Oh you would have thought that at
Speaker 3: the start of the season.
Speaker 1: Well after after round one, I saw a bit.
Speaker 3: We spoke about this, I saw a bit in him
Speaker 3: during the preseason, and then we went out to Vegas.
Speaker 3: It was like, okay, maybe we missed it, but what
Speaker 3: he's shown during pre season has definitely come through. And
Speaker 3: you think about the talent that we have in the
Speaker 3: half back position our competition. Look at the origin players, yes,
Speaker 3: Roses Cleary, Cherry Evans, and he is right now ahead
Speaker 3: of those in terms of performance. Leading the Daly Ms yep.
Speaker 1: That that Vegas game, watching the Warriors and how they've
Speaker 1: adjusted their football off that I thought the in Vegas,
Speaker 1: the Warriors actually tried to do too much and I
Speaker 1: ended up playing two sideways getting pushed over the sideline
Speaker 1: from the Raiders. What they've done, They've simplified their football
Speaker 1: they've Wade Egan has been so crucial to that side
Speaker 1: and crucial to Metcalf because he's allowed. He allows Medcalf
Speaker 1: to sometimes and I don't mean to take a rest,
Speaker 1: but you mentally be able to just relax for a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, take some take some breathers, and
Speaker 1: then just focus on his running game. So they're I
Speaker 1: just I really like the way they're playing football. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't that be a story? You know, they
Speaker 1: come through and win this competition with the Wars. You know,
Speaker 1: they have been so good for the game. I had
Speaker 1: fears keep going into this year. I thought, yeah, because
Speaker 1: the support they were getting and you know, the War's phenomenon,
Speaker 1: and then last year had a difficult season, and then
Speaker 1: what happened in Round one in Vegas. I thot on,
Speaker 1: they don't don't tell me they're going to drop straight off,
Speaker 1: but they'll bounced back.
Speaker 3: And credit to them because they've delivered off the back
Speaker 3: of what they're doing playing.
Speaker 1: Give me a team who's who's doing better than the
Speaker 1: latter indicates, So.
Speaker 3: I have Panthers are down the bottom. They're a better
Speaker 3: team than that. Of course, yes, I think this slow
Speaker 3: start is really going to be a weight on their
Speaker 3: back for a period of time. Like the way that
Speaker 3: they have at stages shown that they are back. I
Speaker 3: just they can't stay there for much longer. Do they
Speaker 3: make finals. That's a long run, but I think they
Speaker 3: can still. They might slip into eighth.
Speaker 2: Those top sides.
Speaker 1: Will whoever the Panthers play again in that that run home,
Speaker 1: they be cheering against them because they sneak into the eight,
Speaker 1: get in there, they can get all the way.
Speaker 3: Win because in the big games they put it together.
Speaker 3: When they're in Vegas, they put it together at different
Speaker 3: stage the Roosters. Who else they beat the Broncos was it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can put it together. What about you?
Speaker 2: What is the love the Dragons? Dragons?
Speaker 1: Dragons were terrific yesterday. Round one had a tough loss
Speaker 1: to the Dogs. That form has shown that it's it's
Speaker 1: good form. But they've lost three games by a single
Speaker 1: single point. To me, they're not one of the top contenders. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I just think they're playing better than THEO then
Speaker 1: the latter indicates and I like what I really like
Speaker 1: what Gutson has been a great pick up for them.
Speaker 2: His leadership has been has been terrific.
Speaker 3: I give Gatson a rat because the back end of
Speaker 3: his time it looked as though he had lost his
Speaker 3: spark and his spinning his legs, and he's always an
Speaker 3: effort based player and he would never lose that. But
Speaker 3: when you look at the Dragon's spine before the season started,
Speaker 3: I thought, like, who's going to hit the scoreboard? Like
Speaker 3: the halves are not like dynamic and running the football
Speaker 3: and break out of the line, the line breakers, they're
Speaker 3: good creative players, but what Guthson has done to the
Speaker 3: attack has been the absolute difference. Otherwise there'd be in
Speaker 3: a lot of trouble. Yeah, they would be.
Speaker 1: Team you're worried about your old mom. Yeah, I'm the same,
Speaker 1: really concerned about where this season is headed. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not worried about them. They're going good. But
Speaker 2: you have my.
Speaker 1: Old side, the Newcastle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's made.
Speaker 1: It's it's hard going at the moment, really hard going.
Speaker 1: So they just can't unlock Kaylen. They just can't work.
Speaker 1: They just can't find a formulae in their attack to
Speaker 1: get him into consistently into space.
Speaker 3: If I was still capable, I would love to play
Speaker 3: half back with Kaylen Ponger.
Speaker 4: See if we haven't, because like he is all the
Speaker 4: attributes you need in someone to be a threat to
Speaker 4: help you do your thing, and talking about some of
Speaker 4: the ball playing, the nuances and things.
Speaker 3: I know it's not as easy as what we say,
Speaker 3: like there's some like some parts so that it's quite difficult.
Speaker 3: But if you could just get some assistance for Klein,
Speaker 3: they would be a much better team. And I'm not
Speaker 3: saying Dylan Brown, I'm saying right now, yes, they need
Speaker 3: to find something that even if it's as structured as
Speaker 3: you know, let's move Kaylen over to the less hand
Speaker 3: side of the field, park someone on the right, and once
Speaker 3: that fullback puts too many numbers.
Speaker 2: On Kleine, take it.
Speaker 3: Take it like it just needs to be something to
Speaker 3: help him do his thing.
Speaker 2: Coop. Kylen gets the ball and it's three on three.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even need a numerical advantage the moment, it's
Speaker 1: just even numbers. The defense sits. So sometimes I look
Speaker 1: and they'll get there.
Speaker 2: They'll work to the half field and I try to
Speaker 2: little play on. You know.
Speaker 1: It's as you know, working from the half field can
Speaker 1: be problematic. Sometimes you want to work work the ball
Speaker 1: to the fast height.
Speaker 2: And just open the field after Klen.
Speaker 3: If I had anything to do with Jack Cogger, I
Speaker 3: would say, Jack, come sit here and watch the last
Speaker 3: twenty minutes of that Grand Final versus Penrith. See what
Speaker 3: you did for clearing that. That is the art of
Speaker 3: ball playing for kayleb Ponger. Watch it over and over
Speaker 3: and over and over again. Get the feeling of going
Speaker 3: past the markers, looking in, playing out and creating space,
Speaker 3: timing of your runners around there. That is exactly what
Speaker 3: Kaylin wants. He did it for Cleary. Now. I don't
Speaker 3: know what's going on Newcastle, but it needs something to
Speaker 3: help out.
Speaker 1: Kaylen, no doubt, Brodie Coops state of origin?
Speaker 2: Mate, what's upon us?
Speaker 1: And yes, I mean I'm going to have to have
Speaker 1: the girls with wardrobe come on better.
Speaker 3: That's not their fault.
Speaker 1: Don't play