1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: It's all the best stat is What do you what 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: do you think about the respective sides? 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Firstly your Coins Land side, well. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 3: I think from both teams, I think sort of injuries 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: have played a part. You know, both Laurie and Billy 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 3: would have had a plan and then a few injuries 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 3: late sort of change those. I think there's definitely a 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: different style of play. I think I think the Moses 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: Cleary Yo combination is something that is repetition trust, so 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: there's a lot of combo work in that and they 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: will move the football around a little bit more yep 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: for the Maroons and that sort of storm combination of 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: Munster and put Harry Grant in that throw Kalin in 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: the back. I think Billy's game plan will be long 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: game and one of their best players to come up 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: with a play, if that makes sense. I don't think 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: there's a lot of combination work compared to the New 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: South Wales side, but I think both have strengths and weaknesses. 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: What do you reckon good looking pack coins pack wake 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: Tina ruben Cot I love corderis player Jeremiah and I 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: is a good form and Carrying's got that mouth injury, 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: but he's going to be okay, Yeah, it's a it's 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: a strong pack with Harry Grant through the middle. 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: It's it's funny looking at. 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: The the nature of the Queensland back line. 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: It's very much attack based. 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: And when you look at New South Wales, which get 28 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: to in a second, it's more you know, I look 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: at I look at our wingers and our and our 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: full back. 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: It's very much yardage based. But look Queensland. 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: Look monster there hammer the bench, Ded and Lindsay Collins 33 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: both for more gets the start world done, Trentley eero. 34 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: But the big one is Robert Toyer. 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah was it ten games into his career and 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: he's playing origin That normally doesn't happen for some of 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: the best players. They ever well in the game, really well. 38 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: As you know, if Billy picks him, you know he's 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: ready thorough. 40 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: Yes, if Billy's watched more football than you and I, right, 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: But we sit there and have seen glimpses of what 42 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: Robert Toyer can do. And there's no doubt that he 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: has got big stage written all over. That sort of 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: right foot, that fan, he's got a flick passing him. 45 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what he's going to have to 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: have one of the best defensive performance in his lifetime 47 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: because he will be coming up against Latroll Mitchell. That's 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: the that's the disadvantage for you. If I'm sitting in Queensland, 49 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: You've got Hammer and Rob Toyer against Stephen Crichton and 50 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: Latrell Mitchell. Yes, yeah, that's that's that's a mismatch if 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: you just put on paper. 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, on paper. 53 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: I said before about Latrell and Stephen Crichton growing up 54 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: watching Origin through the eighties and remind does remind me 55 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: as far as physical presence and intimidation June Miles of Malmeninger. 56 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: It's got that, It's got that that big. 57 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 3: How Okay, if you've got Stephen and Latrell and your 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: Moses and Cleary, what's your style of play? 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about that right. 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: So I look at the New South Wales side and 61 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: it's a great yardage side, great YARDI side Dylan Edbwood, 62 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: Brian Zach Lomax. 63 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: They will dominate yardage, They'll alleviate a lot of pressure 64 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: off the forwards. 65 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: And if New South Wales can win yardage, that means 66 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: that we will consistently put Nathan Cleary in a position 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: for attacking kicks. And as you know, if you've got 68 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Nathan consistently getting down there and be able to put 69 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: in the attacking kicks, then you he's going to start 70 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: nailing them. 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: You know they're going to start. He's going to produce tries. 72 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: So if we're talking about the style of football will play, 73 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: I think simplicity. I think simplicity, very direct, get up field. 74 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to I've said this before, to start 75 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: the game. I really want to see Nathan and Mitchell 76 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: Moses running the football early, get their compass right. Don't 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: want to see the ball just pushed sideways. I think 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: you know that will go away from our strengths out 79 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: the strength of this New South Wales side with those 80 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: back threes. 81 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: Is going to be playing nice and direct. 82 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: I think New South Wales has got more combination work 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: with the ability to move the football when is Aeo 84 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: goes there, like his ability to know when to pull 85 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: the trigger and pass. And Nathan he's better than anyone 86 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: else in the game, so he'll understand when to run 87 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 3: and when to pass. I just feel like with those 88 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: centers that you have, they need to get the ball 89 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: at some stage right. So you're going to shift the 90 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: ball promoted to give them the opportunity one on one. 91 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: It's funny you said about moving the football there. I 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: think New South Wales has got to be They've got 93 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: to be selected when they shift the ball. 94 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: I suppose what I want to see is a little 95 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: bit of a shift there, a little bit of shift there. 96 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: Go back to a little bit shift what you're looking for. 97 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 1: If we're going to move for pole playing nice and direct, 98 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: get the ball to an edge and then open the 99 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: field up. 100 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: You know, if that's we got the ability. 101 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: For Latrell and Stephen Crichton to move and start to 102 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: swing together on one side of the field, and. 103 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: Then for Queensland to win. I think their style of 104 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: player is going to be, like I said earlier, a 105 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: little bit more long gamish than New South Wales. If 106 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: they're foward, per can be dominant for longer periods, keep 107 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: the score line close. I think Munster, I think Calen 108 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 3: Ponger and I think Harry Grant have individual bruants in them, 109 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: so it's more like a team game. To get to 110 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: the seventy fifth minute and then one of the best players, 111 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: yeah strike I from Queensland. I'm worried about Latrelle and 112 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: Stephen Crichton whose New South Wales worried about. 113 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: For Queensland, it looks it's Munster, you know. 114 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: And because we've said this before, when you talk about 115 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: the greatest Oriagin players of all time, we always looked 116 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: at the past with rose colored glasses, you know, we 117 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: glorify the past a. 118 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: Lot of times. 119 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: But when you talk about the greatest Origin plays of 120 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: all time, he's got to be. He's got to be 121 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: in the conversation. Things he has done for Queensland, you know, 122 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: when they've needed in big games, in big moments, he 123 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: just always stands up. 124 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: You know. 125 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: You talk about that Origin debut where he got Men 126 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: of the Match and you blokes tell me that his 127 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: last training session going into that game is probably the 128 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: worst training session. Now, how are we going to shuffle 129 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: this flag out of the seamon? 130 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: He came up to me and said, mate, what do 131 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: I do? I just trained so bad? I said, mate, 132 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: just keep doing what you doing. He'd be right mate, 133 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: But that that mindset like is what makes him great. 134 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: And I feel like if he can rub off on 135 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: Kaylen Palmer who's coming from Newcastle, that's he's in he's 136 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: in a run himself at Clubland. But what Kaylen has 137 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: done for Queensland over his course, there's flashes of brilliance. Yeah, 138 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Like if if, if Billy can 139 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: just get Kaylen in a really good spot. I just 140 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: think that combination of Munster and Kaylen Pomer together, particularly 141 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: on both their favored left hand side, could be the 142 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: thing for Queenland. 143 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: Just on Munster. He was on the show last night. 144 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: He's a character that's not that bad, but like he's 145 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: just he's a class actor and particularly the way he 146 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: has a lot to be made. But I no want 147 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: to go on about but how he's turned his life around. 148 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: You sitting there last night, like kicking the burs and 149 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: stopping that, I mean, you know that's hard to do 150 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: because a lot of it is culture. We get there 151 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: in rugby league. I said it last night. You know, 152 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: you have a win, you want to have a beer. 153 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: You have a loss, you want to have a beer. 154 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: You let's find a reason to have a beer together. 155 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: And for Munster to actually kick that and turn his 156 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: life around. It's a lot more difficult than you know, 157 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: than it seems. So he's incredible. How Fitty looks eighty 158 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: nine key laps. 159 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: The great players always find something to improve in. Now, 160 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: you and I sit here and say, there's not a 161 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: lot he can improve on the football field, right, But 162 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, there's a fair chunk he could 163 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: improve off the field to help that. And there's no 164 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: doubt that anyone that's sort of overtakes the mickey, but 165 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: anyone that's sort of gone off the drink or applied 166 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: themselves more. The proof is in the performance. It shows 167 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: up at some stage. 168 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: And it shows the attitude. It shows attitude. 169 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: Preg nomination for New South Wales is Nahing Cleary, Mitchell Moses, 170 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: and on paper and in theory this is a brilliant combination. 171 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: But as we said before, Mitchell's in the six and 172 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: there's no doubt Mitchell probably will have to play left 173 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: to play a slightly different role that does with paramount. 174 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: I think, yes, I agree, and there'll be a sort 175 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: of let one go, you know, the other one stands 176 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: up and takes. But I really like how Laurie Day 177 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: explained that decision. The kicking game in Origin is crucial 178 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: and Mitchell moses the best kicker from fifty meters plus. 179 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: He'll turn an average set into a great set and 180 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: if he can control the long game kicking and as 181 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: it gets closer to the trialer Nathan controls a little 182 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: bit more. I think that's the ying and the yang 183 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: that work for New South Wales and ultimately, if you 184 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: want to New South Wales to win, those two will 185 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: find the best read of I think that's where it sits. 186 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: And it's a great combination coop because I mean their 187 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: big game experience, particularly Nathan, but Mitchell's a lot of 188 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: big game experience as well, and he's got that and 189 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: Mitchell's got plenty of healthy against so going up to 190 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: some Corps stadium is not gonna worry either of because 191 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: as you're no coops like and I say this fair 192 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: bit young playmakers, when you're going into really big games, 193 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: it's really important going into big games, when you're in 194 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: the halves amongst all the chaos is going on, You've 195 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: got to keep your head and you've you've got to 196 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: control your adrenaline. Ice fine, and it's tempted when you 197 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: get into those really big games and the adrenaline starts 198 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: pouring through you and the first thing you start to 199 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: do is. 200 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: Zinging the ball around sidelines. 201 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: Is sold on a little bit where these two blokes 202 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: know what it takes to win big games. Very level headed, 203 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: very good pushing sides around the park. 204 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: It's great combination. 205 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: If you're Billy, what are you doing with Tom Didon? 206 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: What's your plan? Because he is more than just a 207 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 3: player that sits there. 208 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: Is Yeah, well, I mean, I mean you're not going 209 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: to replace Munster or DC, you know, so it's an 210 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: interesting one. 211 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: Coops, So what do you do? 212 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean, does he is he there just to relieve 213 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Harry Grant? 214 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: I think Harry Grant stays out there too. The thing 215 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: for me is, I think Billy needs to tie the 216 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: injection of Tom Diddon. Patrick Carrigan is a beast. He 217 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: will play eighty minutes, but to him be full throttle 218 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: and lead that pack will be hard for him to do. 219 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: So it's almost like you get Carrigan off after thirty minutes, 220 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: put Diaden on it lock if the game is in 221 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: your favor, if there's a swing of possession coming Queensland's way, 222 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: get him on the field strike and then after five 223 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: minutes in the second half, if it feels like it's 224 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: gone the la, get Carrigan back out there for a 225 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: period of time, then he might be able to strike 226 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: with fifteen to go again. But he is too valuable 227 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: because the greatest strength of Tom Didon is the show 228 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: and go. Once there's fatigue in the game of origin, 229 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: I don't care who you are, the fuel tank is empty, 230 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: and if he's in front of you, that speed and 231 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: footwork and the sharpness at which he comes at you 232 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: at I think that could be a play. But he 233 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: needs to time that card perfectly because if it's defending 234 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: all the time, he's just going to be caught the 235 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: washing machine at all. 236 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: Talking about the Cooper, He's perfectly suit into that thirteen role, isn't. 237 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: He's got all the attributes you know. 238 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's quick, he's got good he's got good first 239 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: step quickness, he's got the show and go a little 240 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: bit of skill, he's got good footwork. 241 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: But crucially he's tough and. 242 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: That's why I say he'll make his tackles. But the 243 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: timing of when Queensland, if Billy can predict the possession 244 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: count go in their favor for a ten minute period, 245 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: that's when you get him on the field. Anyone. 246 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: No, Corey Harsbrough and that surprise that surprises me. 247 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the Lindsay Collins back in after one game. 248 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: Maybe he could have played there, but Lindsay's done it. 249 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: Lindsay's the type of guy that you give him that color, 250 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: that jersey that you're wearing right now. I know he 251 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: puts the Superman cape on, right, So I think that's 252 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: the one year. But I don't mind Furmore and Lierro 253 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: like there's a little bit of enthursdays and there, and 254 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: the way that Billy has coached the likes of Riese 255 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: Walsh particularly Robbed Twitter. He put Hammer in the centers 256 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: when everyone was like, oh, I don't know, Like he 257 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: backs youth because he sees a lot of energy energy 258 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: in them. 259 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: Just looking in your southwest side. 260 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: As I've said before, if I was Lorry, you know 261 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: i'd be I'd be sitting down in the last two 262 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: weeks going okay, where can I can I get perhaps 263 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: in there somewhere. 264 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: What are you thinking about? Max King? 265 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: It's a it's an interesting one weld under world under maxis. 266 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: He's been obviously club for club form because. 267 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: You think about that pack and it's got Kurt Man 268 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: and Hayward play there a little bit like they're a 269 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: smallish pack compared But his performance up against the Roosters 270 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: was very good. Yeah, he got smashed early on, but 271 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: then he was the biggest body in the middle that 272 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: turned the tide for the Dogs. And it just goes 273 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: to show that. You know, there's some other players that 274 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: were spoken more about. Ye May was in there, Stefano. 275 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: You talkmo, But Max King? How can I say this 276 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: comparatively to those guys? Max King probably does the one 277 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: if that makes sense. If someone needs to tackle himself 278 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: for a standstill for what fifteen to twenty minutes, I 279 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: think that's why Laurie would have gone with Max King. 280 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: Well done Max, and to the family too. He's got 281 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: four generations of footballers. 282 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, his dad was. 283 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: A good footballer. He played for the Gold Coast Surguls. 284 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: His grandfather, Johnny is a legend, you know. I mean 285 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: Johnny won mile of premierships with those incredible Saint George's 286 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: teams and then went and coasted Western Vision. They call 287 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: it the Last Ferry, the Last Great fairy Tale, where 288 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: they went Western Vision were put into the midweek the 289 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: Panasonic Cup or the MC Cup and won the whole thing. 290 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, they'd be very, very proud nose. 291 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: Last week we're talking about just telling a lie of 292 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: the football, and we did a lot of it last week, 293 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: but Lucky Galvin last night did a little one and 294 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: it just showed again the benefit of it. And you're 295 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: seeing Jamie Humphries. That little look in makes Humphreys turn in. 296 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: He's runner on the outside. Didn't quite give him enough time. 297 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: And you were just talking about there we probably overplayed 298 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: a little bit too much. 299 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: You're saying we might be influencing the halves and the competition. 300 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: Oh it must watch television. 301 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: This is good, but I think it could be so 302 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: much better. See that the double look like he overplayed 303 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: his hand. If you talk about that rail play where 304 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: you've got one support player inside you, which is Puller 305 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: and save Farth on the outside, if he looks in 306 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: at Buller and stays straighter for a little bit longer 307 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: and then snaps out hard to Humphreys, I think you 308 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: put save Farth the way. I think you just overcooked 309 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: it slightly like there you go straight see that double 310 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: look he went out in out again? Yes, I think 311 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: if he was just square and went looked in here 312 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: and then bounced out to Humphreys. I think he puts yeah, yeah, 313 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: back roll through. 314 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: And it just shows that doesn't know what would talk 315 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: talking about how it disorientates the defense. So Jamie Humphreys 316 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: when he looks in, Jamie Humphreys as well looks in 317 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: and goes towards him. 318 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: Dogs, Warriors and Sharks. You want to make a point 319 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: about these sorts, I'm sorry. 320 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: Warriors, Warriors, Raiders, Sharks. So the Dogs are in first, 321 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: Storm are in fourth. Both of those teams have some 322 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: origin affected players. The Storm have been there a thousand times. 323 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: They'll know how to get through it. The Dogs this 324 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: is their first sort of time having a big chunk 325 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: of players involved. So I feel like the Sharks don't 326 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: have one origin player, the Warriors of Barnett, the Raiders 327 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: have young. I think it's an opportunity for these three teams, 328 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: particularly if you go and have a look at the draw. 329 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: I think the Sharks, the Warriors, and the Raiders it's 330 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: time for them to win a big chunk. I'm saying 331 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: six seven of the next eight take advantage of the 332 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: rest of the competition and fly out there and solidified 333 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: top four spot. Because those two teams don't want to 334 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: drop a top four spot, but these other three aren't 335 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: affected during Origin have a chance to move one of 336 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: those teams out for that run home towards back in 337 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: the year. 338 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: It's I think Dogs, Warriors and Raiders that started the. 339 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: Year moving into the mid season, for those guys to 340 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: be one, two, three, jeez, what odds you would get? 341 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they're playing great football, like those three sides. 342 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: Is there anything in the game? Is there anything this 343 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: year apart from just natural improvement in those sides that 344 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: has basically turned the turn that the ladder on its 345 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: head a little bit. 346 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: I think for the Sharks, I think they're a consistent 347 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: team on the Fitzgibbon that they have been. They've played 348 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: finals probably once of big games, but I feel like 349 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: they've done the foundation of the last three years and 350 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: they're about to spring like they're about to understand what 351 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: it takes. The Warriors, for me, I think the Fisher 352 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: Harris Barnett leadership with the injection of Luke Metcalf. Shawn 353 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: Johnson was there, who was a legend of the Warriors 354 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: in New Zealand, but Luke's bought this sort of youthful enthusiasm, 355 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: leg speed and they capitalize on it, like some of 356 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: the defensive efforts and the moments that he has had 357 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 3: in the last few weeks, like he's a gun player. 358 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: And the Raiders, for me, I think they've just got 359 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 3: good balance between tough forward pack and aergetic outside backs. 360 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: But they if they can win I'm going to say 361 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 3: six on the next eight. Seven in the next eight, 362 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: I think they're going to start believing that they can 363 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 3: win the premiership definitely, and you look at you go 364 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: have a look at their their run potentially, like they've 365 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 3: got the Warriors, Rooster's South, then the bye after that 366 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: if they have won a big chunk of those. After that, 367 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: buy they've got teams towards the bottom of the ladder 368 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: and that could be a big thing for them. Finishing 369 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 3: top four and believing like that team I think needs 370 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: to believe that they can win it. 371 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of young guys on the 372 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: side make very fast side. Crucially've all got football ko weeks. 373 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: He Cheezy was good yesterday, particularly in the first half. 374 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: So was it Tarpani, Papoli and young So they've played 375 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: big chunk of finals back when Ricky got the Grand 376 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 3: Final in nineteen either side of that, but that outside 377 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: backs probably haven't played from off the tom. I had 378 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: a lot of big games. Yeah, so they need to 379 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: know that they're second third, you know, not going to 380 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 3: miss out on top four player home final. Like I 381 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: think that's something that those outside backs probably need. Belief 382 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 3: and confidence. 383 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: You just said about Luke Metcalf and I just just 384 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: wrote here. As we move into the halfway part of 385 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: the season, you know, Gold, Silver, Bronze as far as 386 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: individual players, and I've gone gold Stephen Crichton, I think 387 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: on because it's more than just performance, it's leadership an 388 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: impact he's. 389 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: Having on this competition. 390 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: Silver, I've gone Luke Metcalf for all the things you've 391 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: explained there, and Bronze. 392 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: Adam feriniul Blake. 393 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: His performance souther nine against the Storm was one of 394 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: the best yardach performance I have seen. You know, as 395 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, Coop, if you can run for over one 396 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: hundred meter you're doing good. He had over one hundred 397 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: post contact meters. For people don't know what's when once 398 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: you hit hit the defensive line, how you drive through. 399 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 3: So put it in context. You and I never had 400 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: post contact meters one hundred in one game. 401 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: He has been He has been incredible and as you 402 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: said before, finally now going into this season, everyone looked 403 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: at the addition of him into this side and go, okay, 404 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: now they're a contender. They're showing that. Now finally they're 405 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: showing to put you. 406 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 3: On the spot here, Luke Metcalfe half Back of the 407 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 3: year right now. Oh you would have thought that at 408 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: the start of the season. 409 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: Well after after round one, I saw a bit. 410 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 3: We spoke about this, I saw a bit in him 411 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: during the preseason, and then we went out to Vegas. 412 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: It was like, okay, maybe we missed it, but what 413 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 3: he's shown during pre season has definitely come through. And 414 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: you think about the talent that we have in the 415 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: half back position our competition. Look at the origin players, yes, 416 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 3: Roses Cleary, Cherry Evans, and he is right now ahead 417 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: of those in terms of performance. Leading the Daly Ms yep. 418 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: That that Vegas game, watching the Warriors and how they've 419 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: adjusted their football off that I thought the in Vegas, 420 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: the Warriors actually tried to do too much and I 421 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: ended up playing two sideways getting pushed over the sideline 422 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: from the Raiders. What they've done, They've simplified their football 423 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: they've Wade Egan has been so crucial to that side 424 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: and crucial to Metcalf because he's allowed. He allows Medcalf 425 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: to sometimes and I don't mean to take a rest, 426 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: but you mentally be able to just relax for a 427 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, take some take some breathers, and 428 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: then just focus on his running game. So they're I 429 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: just I really like the way they're playing football. Wouldn't 430 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: that they wouldn't that be a story? You know, they 431 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: come through and win this competition with the Wars. You know, 432 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: they have been so good for the game. I had 433 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: fears keep going into this year. I thought, yeah, because 434 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: the support they were getting and you know, the War's phenomenon, 435 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: and then last year had a difficult season, and then 436 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: what happened in Round one in Vegas. I thot on, 437 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: they don't don't tell me they're going to drop straight off, 438 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: but they'll bounced back. 439 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 3: And credit to them because they've delivered off the back 440 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: of what they're doing playing. 441 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: Give me a team who's who's doing better than the 442 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: latter indicates, So. 443 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: I have Panthers are down the bottom. They're a better 444 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 3: team than that. Of course, yes, I think this slow 445 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: start is really going to be a weight on their 446 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: back for a period of time. Like the way that 447 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: they have at stages shown that they are back. I 448 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: just they can't stay there for much longer. Do they 449 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: make finals. That's a long run, but I think they 450 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: can still. They might slip into eighth. 451 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: Those top sides. 452 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: Will whoever the Panthers play again in that that run home, 453 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: they be cheering against them because they sneak into the eight, 454 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: get in there, they can get all the way. 455 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: Win because in the big games they put it together. 456 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: When they're in Vegas, they put it together at different 457 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: stage the Roosters. Who else they beat the Broncos was it? 458 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 459 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, they can put it together. What about you? 460 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: What is the love the Dragons? Dragons? 461 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: Dragons were terrific yesterday. Round one had a tough loss 462 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: to the Dogs. That form has shown that it's it's 463 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: good form. But they've lost three games by a single 464 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: single point. To me, they're not one of the top contenders. Okay, 465 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: but I just think they're playing better than THEO then 466 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: the latter indicates and I like what I really like 467 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: what Gutson has been a great pick up for them. 468 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: His leadership has been has been terrific. 469 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 3: I give Gatson a rat because the back end of 470 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 3: his time it looked as though he had lost his 471 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 3: spark and his spinning his legs, and he's always an 472 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 3: effort based player and he would never lose that. But 473 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: when you look at the Dragon's spine before the season started, 474 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: I thought, like, who's going to hit the scoreboard? Like 475 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: the halves are not like dynamic and running the football 476 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: and break out of the line, the line breakers, they're 477 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: good creative players, but what Guthson has done to the 478 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: attack has been the absolute difference. Otherwise there'd be in 479 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: a lot of trouble. Yeah, they would be. 480 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: Team you're worried about your old mom. Yeah, I'm the same, 481 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: really concerned about where this season is headed. Yeah. 482 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 2: Now I'm not worried about them. They're going good. But 483 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: you have my. 484 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: Old side, the Newcastle. 485 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's made. 486 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: It's it's hard going at the moment, really hard going. 487 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: So they just can't unlock Kaylen. They just can't work. 488 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: They just can't find a formulae in their attack to 489 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: get him into consistently into space. 490 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: If I was still capable, I would love to play 491 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 3: half back with Kaylen Ponger. 492 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 4: See if we haven't, because like he is all the 493 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 4: attributes you need in someone to be a threat to 494 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 4: help you do your thing, and talking about some of 495 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 4: the ball playing, the nuances and things. 496 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: I know it's not as easy as what we say, 497 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: like there's some like some parts so that it's quite difficult. 498 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: But if you could just get some assistance for Klein, 499 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 3: they would be a much better team. And I'm not 500 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: saying Dylan Brown, I'm saying right now, yes, they need 501 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: to find something that even if it's as structured as 502 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: you know, let's move Kaylen over to the less hand 503 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: side of the field, park someone on the right, and once 504 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: that fullback puts too many numbers. 505 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: On Kleine, take it. 506 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: Take it like it just needs to be something to 507 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: help him do his thing. 508 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: Coop. Kylen gets the ball and it's three on three. 509 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't even need a numerical advantage the moment, it's 510 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: just even numbers. The defense sits. So sometimes I look 511 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: and they'll get there. 512 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: They'll work to the half field and I try to 513 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 2: little play on. You know. 514 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: It's as you know, working from the half field can 515 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: be problematic. Sometimes you want to work work the ball 516 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: to the fast height. 517 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: And just open the field after Klen. 518 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: If I had anything to do with Jack Cogger, I 519 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 3: would say, Jack, come sit here and watch the last 520 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: twenty minutes of that Grand Final versus Penrith. See what 521 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: you did for clearing that. That is the art of 522 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: ball playing for kayleb Ponger. Watch it over and over 523 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: and over and over again. Get the feeling of going 524 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: past the markers, looking in, playing out and creating space, 525 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: timing of your runners around there. That is exactly what 526 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 3: Kaylin wants. He did it for Cleary. Now. I don't 527 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 3: know what's going on Newcastle, but it needs something to 528 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: help out. 529 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: Kaylen, no doubt, Brodie Coops state of origin? 530 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: Mate, what's upon us? 531 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: And yes, I mean I'm going to have to have 532 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: the girls with wardrobe come on better. 533 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 3: That's not their fault. 534 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: Don't play