WEBVTT - Are Jacqui And Clint The Real Winners? 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.840 This podcast was recorded and produced on gadigle Land. We 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.520 would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians and pay our 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:09.280 respect to elder's past and present. Ladies and gentlemen, Can 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.520 I please have your attention? This is my final MATHS 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:14.760 related interview. Are they talking about me? She's like, yeah, 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:19.119 it was Australia's reactions because a lot of drama and 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:24.440 they never got it. It just went nuts. Hello and 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.480 welcome back to back to reality. I'm Selena and I'm 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.760 Tany And this week we thought we'd do something different 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:35.280 and try a solo girly episode because we have so 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.800 much to debrief on. We had the reunion episodes a 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:44.240 lot what I don't even know where to even start, honestly, 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.680 I'm speaking. It really brought back some trauma from like 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.760 our reunion and the filming work. We need to just 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.960 unpack that first, because so just so you guys know, 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.680 the reunion is filmed about a month after the final 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:01.600 of ours have finished filming. We were just speaking off 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.399 camera before. We think it should be longer because a 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.760 month is like nothing and it should be minimum two months. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.560 But yeah, it sits around a month after. But apparently 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.600 it was like three issue weeks for this season. Yeah supposedly, Yeah, 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.360 And I mean so much can go on within that time, 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.120 and I feel like it would be better for it 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.440 to be like a reunion after the show is yes, 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.479 so everyone can watch it and then call each other out, Yes, 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.880 like housewives style. Yes, Yes, that would be That would 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:35.679 be the tea. But what's your what's your memories from 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.800 filming reunion? Because I have a lot of thoughts on it, 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.080 but I want to hear yours. Well. Mine was very traumatic. Obviously, 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.520 Cody and I did long distance for a month, and 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:46.560 that was a lot of flying back and forth because 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.800 I was still living in Adelaide. We had a beautiful 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.160 Christmas and everything together, and then we flew back for 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:56.320 the reunion and yeah, we had the dinner party. He 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:00.280 seemed really off. I could see something was up after 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:05.600 we left, like in the uber, we basically he broke 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.799 up with me, Like, yeah, it was strange. I'm sure 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:11.480 everyone's already heard the story, so I'm not gonna go 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.240 too deep into it. And then the next morning we 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.799 were so rattled because the crew was going to come back. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.360 We're going to film the well part two of the 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:24.040 reunion so the commit would CEREMONI yeah, yeah, and we 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.720 were like, what do we do? What do we say? 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.040 I guess there was a part of me that thought 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.400 he might change his mind, and he was actually good 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.960 in the senses. He's like, look, I'm gonna be respectful. 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.639 I'll do whatever you want to, Like, dude, if you 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.320 want to continue and pretend we're still together for the 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.560 sake of the show, I'm happy to do that. If not, 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.840 we can just be honest. Yeah, I'm gonna let you 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.440 sit with that. So I was like sitting with it. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.280 And I was so quiet the whole day. I think 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.520 everyone kind of knew something was up. I was just 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.640 faking that. I was like severely hungover. Actually no, I 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.440 was actually that as well. And then it was only 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:57.960 until we sat on the couch in front of the 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.480 experts that yeah, I said, like he had dumped me. 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.120 It was a lot, Yeah, and it was a shock 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:10.200 to everyone again myself, Yeah, yeah, no, it was. I 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.360 just my memory of the reunions was just how long 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.040 they took to film, and I'm sure it was the 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.040 same for you. But we we were the last couple 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:20.960 to sit on the couch and it was the sun 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.280 was rising and I'm not joking. It was like five am, 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.600 so I took a selfie right after it was over, 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.720 and it was like six ish or something yep, I 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.520 don't know, something around it was like five am, five 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.160 six am, and it was like the sun was up. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.040 It was daylight, yep. And it was just rattling, and 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.640 I just sit there because you're there at like not 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.400 like it's the whole You literally go through the whole 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.960 night literally, and then I don't know how my makeup 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.680 stayed on, Like I was just like sitting there like, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.480 oh my god. And it's always like drama. You have 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.600 people walking out, and it just sucks that we were 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.280 the last one because we had to just sit there 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.280 the whole time. And then the thing that annoyed me 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.040 the most is that then they had like booked an 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.520 early flight for the next morning, and it was literally 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:00.960 like we had like three hour sleep and we had 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.320 to film again. I was like, this is just like no, no, 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.280 was that the no sorry? That was for the final 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.920 dinner party. It ended in the ams and the flight 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.880 was like in the morning, and I was like, dude, joke. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:13.800 So it was just really like the way they did 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:19.440 the logistics of stuff was so bad. And then that night, sorry, 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:23.719 after reunion, it was just like just awful, just like 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.039 aawful vibes. Well, Channel nine thought that they were being 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:31.360 like really organized. They had organized a beautiful woman's day 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.800 couple's photo shoe. Well, the couples that were together, we 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.720 seemingly like came, yeah, the show and we're together. So 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.240 because Cody and I said we were together, they had 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.720 planned this whole photo shoe and that was the next 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.680 day to do it after I got fucking dumped and 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.320 I still had to rock up. The makeup artist was 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:53.280 wiping my tears and blotting my safe right now. Yeah, 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:54.880 so it's it's out there if you want to look 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.360 it up. I was in a green like Zimmermum dress 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:01.640 sitting on a rock with Cody was so odd. We 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.320 did like a shoot, so it was yeah, I remember, 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.240 it was like the couples that were together and then 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.960 a few of the girls and then we got to 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.520 go like in the like to the office and do 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:13.479 like a studio shooting. 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:14.440 It was can't. 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:17.640 But I'm getting everything all mixed up, like I don't 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.200 know what to like. Everything's just like a blur. I'm 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.200 pretty sure that was right after union because then we 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:26.200 all went out I think maybe the day after we 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.680 went out to the ivy. Then like all this like 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:33.200 drama happened. Yes, So it was just like they should 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.640 have Yeah, they should have just waited, because I feel 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.680 like the content, if it was just like a month 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.880 longer than it was, would have been so much more dramatic, 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.080 like the swapping of the couples, like people that have 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.960 hooked up, like all that stuff. Was just like they 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:52.480 missed all that. Yeah, well this year where there was 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:57.000 a lot of drama with the new cast, Yeah, I 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:01.120 was really like after watching the reunion dinner, I was 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:02.840 so overwhelmed. I was like, this was like a lot 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:04.960 And I was watching in my roommate and we're just 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.320 like do Like that was just so traumatizing to watch, 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.919 just and how like the energy that everyone came into 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.359 that ye was just too much. But it was weird 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:17.640 how Marena, Tim, Jake, and Lauren did not attend. I 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.880 didn't even know that was an option. I thought we 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.360 had to go based that was a part of our contract. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.719 But I mean, based on those specific people, I'm not 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:32.920 surprised they didn't decide to come. Yeah, and kind of disappointing. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.400 I wish they were forced to because it would have 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.280 been good to see what the vibes would have been like, 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.240 because those were pretty big characters and they had really 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.200 key moments. It was a bit of a missed, yeah, 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:45.200 missed bit of drama that we didn't get to see. 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.039 And that is like a lot, Like I feel like 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.120 we've never seen that many people not rock after reunion. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.280 That's a lot. I think we only had one Andrew 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:54.719 fair enough I was matched with. I don't think we 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:59.920 had anyone that didn't rock up. Really, Oh no, I didn't. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.240 I'm trying to think. I feel like everyone. I feel 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.560 like everyone came to ours. Yeah, I feel like we 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:12.720 thought we had to. But I wonder like, because this 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.400 cast has gone so rogue, our future participants going to 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.520 see that and be like, well, fuck it, rock up 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:21.480 and I can make a fuss and get on the 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:26.920 promo as well, you know what. Watching I loved watching 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.280 the sit down when they played back the footage in 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.120 front of everyone, because it felt like it was so 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.640 in detail and it was just like wow, like that 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.800 is just like your face with like what happened right? 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.240 Just seeing the reactions like even how Paul just like 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.080 couldn't seeing it just in black and white. He just 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.360 could not see it from anyone else's perspective, and he 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.520 just thought he was in the right still, like he's 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.520 dying on the hill, or she did the wrong things too, 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:57.480 bro like embarrassing, embarrassing, and I just like, yeah, I 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:02.680 just couldn't. I couldn't comprehend that, honestly. And then even 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.080 Adrian's one was pretty tea. That was all that. It 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.679 was actually really sad to watch because I think Athena 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.360 finally got to see what their relationship was actually like, 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.880 and it was not good. Yeah, I didn't really I 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:15.280 didn't really think it was good at any point, to 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.000 be honest. See, I'm glad they showed that how it 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.760 was because like I'm just gonna go back to my 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.200 season what they did to me because they thought that 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.360 Cody and I had made it. They made me watch 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:31.640 all the bad snippets of our relationship and then they 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.080 were like so thinking that they had one upped me 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.800 because they thought that like we were together. They were like, 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.920 how are you feeling about everything? And I like we 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.079 burst into tears and I was like, you know, he 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:47.319 dumped me. But when when they aired that, I did 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.680 the opposite, so it made more sense to the storyline 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.960 as to why we broke up, But that was not 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.360 what was done to me on the night, So like, 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:59.119 I'm glad that we're Athena and Adrians, like I saw. Yeah. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.439 To be fair, though, what they show on TV is 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.319 different to what you do see, so it's hard to 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:07.080 tell exactly what it's shown, but is the general gist 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.920 of what happens in those relationships, so you kind of know. 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.240 I think at Reen, you know, if you're getting a 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.360 bad editor off, they had the footage that they show 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.120 because you know what's being spotlighted, and then you're like, 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:20.959 this is not a good Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.600 I saw that on Paul's face. Yeah, he was just 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:27.199 like but he was even worse seeing the condensed down 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.040 version of how bad it actually was because we just 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.280 blocked it out. It was like one after the other 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.800 after the other, and she just like worked through it 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.360 and then for him to continue to be like, she 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.480 needs to try harder to work through it. And she 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.120 did bad things too. It's like, what were the bad 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.439 things she did? I won day if he did say them, 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.520 but they just kept cutting it out true, because he did. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.480 He was really danty about like she did this as 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.880 she did that, because from what we saw, what else 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:56.960 did she she said the wrapper thing? Okay, the reaction 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:02.080 was really unjustified, and people always things I forgot about that. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.480 But the way he played down like like just ignores 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:10.040 the word. But how he was also using like his 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:15.400 like his background as like a language barrier. Yeah, I 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.160 do feel like he says shit and he doesn't know 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.280 what it means. And that's why I feel like he's 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.680 getting into this ship. Not that it's justifying it at all, 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.000 but it's like, dude, what are you saying and what 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:25.920 are you doing? I feel like he doesn't know, So 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.320 I don't. I do genuinely because even when he's like 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.520 in conversation, he kind of says the wrong things out 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.079 of context, like I kind of noticed. So I don't 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.160 think that is an excuse, like don't say stuff that 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:39.760 you don't know what it means, especially if it's a 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.719 strong thing like a snob, which is exactly what you're 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.400 trying to say men, Like that's exactly how you were 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.320 trying to mean it. So I hate anyone that uses 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.679 that like background argument. But I think we've seen like 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:56.240 you're saying some stupid shit that doesn't make sense, and 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.760 it's like, I know, I feel like there was a 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.120 part of me that could understand a little bit of 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.880 what he was trying to say totally, because I feel 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.680 like he was trying to say that Karina was a 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.520 bit of a pick me and that judge. Yes, more 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.920 so what he was trying to say like her wanting 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:19.040 to seek I guess validation from the public. That's valid. Yeah, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.959 But I'm like again, like, and I love Alessandri what's 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.839 wrong with that? Because yeah, bro, you're going on TV. Yes, 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.280 in a relationship, you're going to have a different view 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.160 when it's not broadcasting to people. But at the end 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:31.760 of the day, you are going to be conscious of 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.520 how you're being portrayed, because, as we've seen, it can 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.360 ruin your life. So I don't think that that's unfair 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.520 for her to feel like, I'm going to make sure 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.560 I do this this this. Yeah. Also, like, look at 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.720 the way you acted, how you embarrassed her the whole time, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.880 and then she still stood by you through like the 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.520 worst part of it, honestly, absolute work. And then at 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.120 the end you're going to be like, oh, we weren't 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.400 even compatible. She's a snob. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:56.760 yeah actually cared with the public thought about her, she 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:02.160 would have left your wall. Yeah, she actually got so clearly. 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:06.040 She was working through her feelings there and then came 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.240 to the conclusion eventually when it was like too many, 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.960 like exactly, and this is what this is. It was 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.040 such a good example of what it's like in real 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.240 life because you're gonna have to deal with Instagram when 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.160 girls are going to be do you think he's going 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:23.120 to just ignore those No, exactly, and people from experience 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:24.720 do not care that you're in a relationship. Girls will 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:28.640 still message, so are they going to feed in that temptation? Probably? 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.640 And that is like that is the biggest test. That's 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.520 why I think two months after we get your Instagram back, 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.160 bring the reunion and then get the DMS up. There's 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.240 a difference between women and men that go on reality Tea. 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.440 The women use it as an opportunity to maybe progress 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:48.640 in their career prospects, and that's the kind of fine love. 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.000 And also this I think men they kind of do 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:53.600 it for shits and gigs and also so they can 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:59.160 have like h that is what we say, definitely, but 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.240 also like you just get to a stage of your 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.400 life where like you know your worth and what you 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.440 will and won't stand for, and you don't want to 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.440 explain to someone how to fucking show up for you, 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.840 do you know what I mean? Like I'm sick of explaining. Okay, 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.840 if you want to be my friend, these are my boundaries, 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.520 or this is how you see the boundaries. They should 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.640 be very clear. You just want to meet someone that 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.240 just gets it and is like yourself, you know what 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.040 I mean? Like that's like best case scenario. Yeah she should. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.640 Karina shouldn't have to explain to Paul that you should 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:33.000 not have caught on a day with another one honestly, 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.400 and just like the was it playing dumb or was 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.040 it just like he genuinely thought that was an okay 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:40.439 thing to you, And I don't know what's worse. So 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:44.080 he'd be the type to like other girls Instagram bikinis, 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.080 like those first chaps and be like, oh what I 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.160 was just is a beautiful woman. I was just curious. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:54.280 I was just curious. That's my favorite quote the matter 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.560 of this season. Imagine if he comes out with merch 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.520 do it mate do something off the everye. I think 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.200 at least one person every year comes out with my 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.520 own Marge. I think Tony's already done it this year? 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:12.440 Has he Tony time? Okay apparently? But can we talk 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.080 about Jackie and clear Okay, that was the biggest bombshow right? Well, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:20.040 I honestly I have time for them, Like I think 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.880 it's hilarious, honestly, like, and you know what, and my 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.760 one thing that I would defend Jackie sis is a manifestor. 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:31.880 She manifested getting a successful man, all her things that 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.880 she ticked off her list she had, so honestly, I 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.720 can't even hate, cannot hate on it. And I think 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:42.640 that whatever approach she took fair enough, but she got 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.920 what she wanted in the end, and honestly happy for her, truly, 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.600 Like maybe things weren't handled in the best possible way, 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.400 and I think there could have been a bit more 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.960 sensitivity with Ryan and how he's informed about it. But 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.000 again we don't know what the dynamics were like because 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.120 he was said, like a couple of days BEFO for 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.680 Final Vours, they spoke and they didn't really know what 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.720 was happening. They were friends and then these links some messages. 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.040 I don't really know. It seems like maybe they kind 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.040 of both mutually agreed to stay till the end. I 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:14.680 don't know. And then obviously when he asked her about 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:19.560 their relationship, they didn't really say anything about it. I 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.440 did find hilarious. Clint was like, we're not fucking friends. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:28.560 I was. I just didn't think that was nest that 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.640 he said. It was just so gressful. Yeah, I have 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:36.200 to call him out though. The Western Sydney needs to stop. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.880 Western Sydney is a majority of Sydney babes. That's like 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:44.120 anything past itself and new town Western Sydney. So why 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:49.120 why you talk about the significant population and what like, 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:53.240 what's the undertones there? Yeah, so called people. I don't 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.520 know because I'm originally from Adelaide and I didn't understand 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:03.200 this east suburb western like, so there's certain suburbs where 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.960 if you say you're from there, your people's heads will 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.920 either turn and be more respectful, more open versus like 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.000 they will be like no like judgment. I think the 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:17.160 general judgment, which I think isn't entirely accurate, but is 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:21.240 that Western Synty is the lower socioeconomic area, which is 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.760 completely not true, but that was obviously the sentiment that 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:25.800 he was trying to get out. I don't know, I 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.200 think it's offensive because you look at West City, it's 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.320 a lot of ethnic people, whereas on this side of 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.160 let's just go from like Newtown, right, I think you 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:36.800 got one side and it goes more ethnic and then 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.000 you've got like a lot of white people on the 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.200 other side. And like the eastern suburbs is predominantly white people, 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.760 so I think, and like Northern Beaches white people. Like 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.400 that's just how it is, and that is just what 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.600 it's like. And I think when you're making comments like that, 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.520 it just does not sit right with a majority of people. 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.120 It's like, what is the underlying message that you're trying 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.560 to get out when you're saying that, because it's like 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.600 at the same time, like Ryan Boardy's own place, like 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.320 I think that should be like appreciated no matter where 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.639 it is, like Okay, cool, you've had a successful career, 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.160 you've got your porsches, whatever. I think there's nothing more 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.440 ecky to me than a rich person that talks about 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.040 being rich and like, yeah, like why were we like 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.600 why are we judging like anyone and who cares would 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:23.920 you even say? And you know there, I don't know 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:25.800 if you've been following along on their TikTok. There are 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.280 a lot of tiktoks that Clinton and Jackie are making 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.320 and they're saying that they're going into business together. Oh okay, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.360 Like what a shitty move to like, you know, talk 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:38.520 shit about a big city of like Sydney, which yeah, 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.360 like millions of people. Yeah, when you're about to start 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:47.879 a business together, that's weird to me. Yeah. There was 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.919 a lot of negativity around them, like moving so quickly 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:52.880 and all of all of that, right, which I think 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.879 is not fair in a sense that relationships move. However, 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.000 the time to work for both people obviously you've got 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.200 factors like age and just where you're at in lives. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.359 So I think I don't really think it's too soon. 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.959 I mean the moving in. I thought they moved in 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.360 like much later. So I don't realize they've moved in 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.800 because that was what four weeks. They've built a relationship 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.080 within the four weeks after final of ours to the reunion, 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:16.919 and then they were moving in after that, like a 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.240 month is pretty crazy. I don't even think it was 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:23.240 a month from my understanding they only had three weeks 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.720 we're talking to right like that is, but that's why 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:33.879 everyone's suspecting, which makes a little bit more sense. Yes, 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.080 so surely, I don't know. I don't know. I do think, 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.479 I mean, every relationship to their own. I think anyone 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.679 that's pushing to move in that rapidly it is a 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.040 bit of a red flag. Do you reckon? I don't know. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.480 I just think personally from my experience, I wouldn't have 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.200 wanted to move in with my partner how quickly it happened. 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:56.320 And I know you go through the experience, like the 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.760 experiment and you do that, but I think it really 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.880 escalated our relationship to a negative point. And you don't 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:03.640 you don't even get a date anyway when she got 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.359 on the show, right, So you're not dating, you're not 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:08.399 going on dates, you're not having that really fun period 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.560 of what it's like to date someone, you know, that 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.160 first two three months of like what it's like when 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.439 you're like you're going out? Are you going to go 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.880 back to theirs? Like there's a vibe there because they 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.480 were long distance. I wonder if that had a true 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.040 or so was mine? Oh yeah, But I just feel 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:30.800 like TASiS like you the country water, so you can't 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:34.080 really date when you're like true far away. But it's 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.560 very like the moving in is crazy, The movie in 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:42.000 is crazy. Well, we saw at the viewing party there 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.720 were two separate divides. There was the So dramatic viewing 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.639 party and then the Daily Mail one. Clint and Jackie 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:52.879 were at the So dramatic one and Clint proposes, yes, 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.199 what do we think about that? We love the ring? Gorgeousous, 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:02.560 that is a diamond, like wow. I first of all, 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.840 from my personal opinion, I would hate it if anyone 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.440 did a public proposal to me, So any future prospects 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.119 never do that. That is so fucking embarrassing and that 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:15.119 is like my actual nightmare, so so much like that 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:18.239 is worst case scenario for me. That or like your 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:22.399 family being their worst case. Okay, so me watching it, 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:26.080 I like felt sick, like me how I would feel 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.360 if it was me. But cute for. 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:34.240 Them, yeah yeah, yeah, I don't know what to say 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:39.040 expecting it and like her like crouching on like little 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.040 couch next to him as he was trying to propose. 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.720 It was typical like awkward Jackie style, but it was 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.920 cute and the Taylor Swift music that she kept using 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.800