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Speaker 1: I please have your attention? This is my final MATHS
Speaker 1: related interview. Are they talking about me? She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Australia's reactions because a lot of drama and
Speaker 1: they never got it. It just went nuts. Hello and
Speaker 1: welcome back to back to reality. I'm Selena and I'm
Speaker 1: Tany And this week we thought we'd do something different
Speaker 1: and try a solo girly episode because we have so
Speaker 1: much to debrief on. We had the reunion episodes a
Speaker 1: lot what I don't even know where to even start, honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm speaking. It really brought back some trauma from like
Speaker 1: our reunion and the filming work. We need to just
Speaker 1: unpack that first, because so just so you guys know,
Speaker 1: the reunion is filmed about a month after the final
Speaker 1: of ours have finished filming. We were just speaking off
Speaker 1: camera before. We think it should be longer because a
Speaker 1: month is like nothing and it should be minimum two months.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it sits around a month after. But apparently
Speaker 1: it was like three issue weeks for this season. Yeah supposedly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean so much can go on within that time,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it would be better for it
Speaker 1: to be like a reunion after the show is yes,
Speaker 1: so everyone can watch it and then call each other out, Yes,
Speaker 1: like housewives style. Yes, Yes, that would be That would
Speaker 1: be the tea. But what's your what's your memories from
Speaker 1: filming reunion? Because I have a lot of thoughts on it,
Speaker 1: but I want to hear yours. Well. Mine was very traumatic. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Cody and I did long distance for a month, and
Speaker 1: that was a lot of flying back and forth because
Speaker 1: I was still living in Adelaide. We had a beautiful
Speaker 1: Christmas and everything together, and then we flew back for
Speaker 1: the reunion and yeah, we had the dinner party. He
Speaker 1: seemed really off. I could see something was up after
Speaker 1: we left, like in the uber, we basically he broke
Speaker 1: up with me, Like, yeah, it was strange. I'm sure
Speaker 1: everyone's already heard the story, so I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: too deep into it. And then the next morning we
Speaker 1: were so rattled because the crew was going to come back.
Speaker 1: We're going to film the well part two of the
Speaker 1: reunion so the commit would CEREMONI yeah, yeah, and we
Speaker 1: were like, what do we do? What do we say?
Speaker 1: I guess there was a part of me that thought
Speaker 1: he might change his mind, and he was actually good
Speaker 1: in the senses. He's like, look, I'm gonna be respectful.
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever you want to, Like, dude, if you
Speaker 1: want to continue and pretend we're still together for the
Speaker 1: sake of the show, I'm happy to do that. If not,
Speaker 1: we can just be honest. Yeah, I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: sit with that. So I was like sitting with it.
Speaker 1: And I was so quiet the whole day. I think
Speaker 1: everyone kind of knew something was up. I was just
Speaker 1: faking that. I was like severely hungover. Actually no, I
Speaker 1: was actually that as well. And then it was only
Speaker 1: until we sat on the couch in front of the
Speaker 1: experts that yeah, I said, like he had dumped me.
Speaker 1: It was a lot, Yeah, and it was a shock
Speaker 1: to everyone again myself, Yeah, yeah, no, it was. I
Speaker 1: just my memory of the reunions was just how long
Speaker 1: they took to film, and I'm sure it was the
Speaker 1: same for you. But we we were the last couple
Speaker 1: to sit on the couch and it was the sun
Speaker 1: was rising and I'm not joking. It was like five am,
Speaker 1: so I took a selfie right after it was over,
Speaker 1: and it was like six ish or something yep, I
Speaker 1: don't know, something around it was like five am, five
Speaker 1: six am, and it was like the sun was up.
Speaker 1: It was daylight, yep. And it was just rattling, and
Speaker 1: I just sit there because you're there at like not
Speaker 1: like it's the whole You literally go through the whole
Speaker 1: night literally, and then I don't know how my makeup
Speaker 1: stayed on, Like I was just like sitting there like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And it's always like drama. You have
Speaker 1: people walking out, and it just sucks that we were
Speaker 1: the last one because we had to just sit there
Speaker 1: the whole time. And then the thing that annoyed me
Speaker 1: the most is that then they had like booked an
Speaker 1: early flight for the next morning, and it was literally
Speaker 1: like we had like three hour sleep and we had
Speaker 1: to film again. I was like, this is just like no, no,
Speaker 1: was that the no sorry? That was for the final
Speaker 1: dinner party. It ended in the ams and the flight
Speaker 1: was like in the morning, and I was like, dude, joke.
Speaker 1: So it was just really like the way they did
Speaker 1: the logistics of stuff was so bad. And then that night, sorry,
Speaker 1: after reunion, it was just like just awful, just like
Speaker 1: aawful vibes. Well, Channel nine thought that they were being
Speaker 1: like really organized. They had organized a beautiful woman's day
Speaker 1: couple's photo shoe. Well, the couples that were together, we
Speaker 1: seemingly like came, yeah, the show and we're together. So
Speaker 1: because Cody and I said we were together, they had
Speaker 1: planned this whole photo shoe and that was the next
Speaker 1: day to do it after I got fucking dumped and
Speaker 1: I still had to rock up. The makeup artist was
Speaker 1: wiping my tears and blotting my safe right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's it's out there if you want to look
Speaker 1: it up. I was in a green like Zimmermum dress
Speaker 1: sitting on a rock with Cody was so odd. We
Speaker 1: did like a shoot, so it was yeah, I remember,
Speaker 1: it was like the couples that were together and then
Speaker 1: a few of the girls and then we got to
Speaker 1: go like in the like to the office and do
Speaker 1: like a studio shooting.
Speaker 2: It was can't.
Speaker 1: But I'm getting everything all mixed up, like I don't
Speaker 1: know what to like. Everything's just like a blur. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure that was right after union because then we
Speaker 1: all went out I think maybe the day after we
Speaker 1: went out to the ivy. Then like all this like
Speaker 1: drama happened. Yes, So it was just like they should
Speaker 1: have Yeah, they should have just waited, because I feel
Speaker 1: like the content, if it was just like a month
Speaker 1: longer than it was, would have been so much more dramatic,
Speaker 1: like the swapping of the couples, like people that have
Speaker 1: hooked up, like all that stuff. Was just like they
Speaker 1: missed all that. Yeah, well this year where there was
Speaker 1: a lot of drama with the new cast, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was really like after watching the reunion dinner, I was
Speaker 1: so overwhelmed. I was like, this was like a lot
Speaker 1: And I was watching in my roommate and we're just
Speaker 1: like do Like that was just so traumatizing to watch,
Speaker 1: just and how like the energy that everyone came into
Speaker 1: that ye was just too much. But it was weird
Speaker 1: how Marena, Tim, Jake, and Lauren did not attend. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know that was an option. I thought we
Speaker 1: had to go based that was a part of our contract.
Speaker 1: But I mean, based on those specific people, I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised they didn't decide to come. Yeah, and kind of disappointing.
Speaker 1: I wish they were forced to because it would have
Speaker 1: been good to see what the vibes would have been like,
Speaker 1: because those were pretty big characters and they had really
Speaker 1: key moments. It was a bit of a missed, yeah,
Speaker 1: missed bit of drama that we didn't get to see.
Speaker 1: And that is like a lot, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: we've never seen that many people not rock after reunion.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. I think we only had one Andrew
Speaker 1: fair enough I was matched with. I don't think we
Speaker 1: had anyone that didn't rock up. Really, Oh no, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I feel like everyone. I feel
Speaker 1: like everyone came to ours. Yeah, I feel like we
Speaker 1: thought we had to. But I wonder like, because this
Speaker 1: cast has gone so rogue, our future participants going to
Speaker 1: see that and be like, well, fuck it, rock up
Speaker 1: and I can make a fuss and get on the
Speaker 1: promo as well, you know what. Watching I loved watching
Speaker 1: the sit down when they played back the footage in
Speaker 1: front of everyone, because it felt like it was so
Speaker 1: in detail and it was just like wow, like that
Speaker 1: is just like your face with like what happened right?
Speaker 1: Just seeing the reactions like even how Paul just like
Speaker 1: couldn't seeing it just in black and white. He just
Speaker 1: could not see it from anyone else's perspective, and he
Speaker 1: just thought he was in the right still, like he's
Speaker 1: dying on the hill, or she did the wrong things too,
Speaker 1: bro like embarrassing, embarrassing, and I just like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just couldn't. I couldn't comprehend that, honestly. And then even
Speaker 1: Adrian's one was pretty tea. That was all that. It
Speaker 1: was actually really sad to watch because I think Athena
Speaker 1: finally got to see what their relationship was actually like,
Speaker 1: and it was not good. Yeah, I didn't really I
Speaker 1: didn't really think it was good at any point, to
Speaker 1: be honest. See, I'm glad they showed that how it
Speaker 1: was because like I'm just gonna go back to my
Speaker 1: season what they did to me because they thought that
Speaker 1: Cody and I had made it. They made me watch
Speaker 1: all the bad snippets of our relationship and then they
Speaker 1: were like so thinking that they had one upped me
Speaker 1: because they thought that like we were together. They were like,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling about everything? And I like we
Speaker 1: burst into tears and I was like, you know, he
Speaker 1: dumped me. But when when they aired that, I did
Speaker 1: the opposite, so it made more sense to the storyline
Speaker 1: as to why we broke up, But that was not
Speaker 1: what was done to me on the night, So like,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we're Athena and Adrians, like I saw. Yeah.
Speaker 1: To be fair, though, what they show on TV is
Speaker 1: different to what you do see, so it's hard to
Speaker 1: tell exactly what it's shown, but is the general gist
Speaker 1: of what happens in those relationships, so you kind of know.
Speaker 1: I think at Reen, you know, if you're getting a
Speaker 1: bad editor off, they had the footage that they show
Speaker 1: because you know what's being spotlighted, and then you're like,
Speaker 1: this is not a good Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: I saw that on Paul's face. Yeah, he was just
Speaker 1: like but he was even worse seeing the condensed down
Speaker 1: version of how bad it actually was because we just
Speaker 1: blocked it out. It was like one after the other
Speaker 1: after the other, and she just like worked through it
Speaker 1: and then for him to continue to be like, she
Speaker 1: needs to try harder to work through it. And she
Speaker 1: did bad things too. It's like, what were the bad
Speaker 1: things she did? I won day if he did say them,
Speaker 1: but they just kept cutting it out true, because he did.
Speaker 1: He was really danty about like she did this as
Speaker 1: she did that, because from what we saw, what else
Speaker 1: did she she said the wrapper thing? Okay, the reaction
Speaker 1: was really unjustified, and people always things I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: But the way he played down like like just ignores
Speaker 1: the word. But how he was also using like his
Speaker 1: like his background as like a language barrier. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do feel like he says shit and he doesn't know
Speaker 1: what it means. And that's why I feel like he's
Speaker 1: getting into this ship. Not that it's justifying it at all,
Speaker 1: but it's like, dude, what are you saying and what
Speaker 1: are you doing? I feel like he doesn't know, So
Speaker 1: I don't. I do genuinely because even when he's like
Speaker 1: in conversation, he kind of says the wrong things out
Speaker 1: of context, like I kind of noticed. So I don't
Speaker 1: think that is an excuse, like don't say stuff that
Speaker 1: you don't know what it means, especially if it's a
Speaker 1: strong thing like a snob, which is exactly what you're
Speaker 1: trying to say men, Like that's exactly how you were
Speaker 1: trying to mean it. So I hate anyone that uses
Speaker 1: that like background argument. But I think we've seen like
Speaker 1: you're saying some stupid shit that doesn't make sense, and
Speaker 1: it's like, I know, I feel like there was a
Speaker 1: part of me that could understand a little bit of
Speaker 1: what he was trying to say totally, because I feel
Speaker 1: like he was trying to say that Karina was a
Speaker 1: bit of a pick me and that judge. Yes, more
Speaker 1: so what he was trying to say like her wanting
Speaker 1: to seek I guess validation from the public. That's valid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I'm like again, like, and I love Alessandri what's
Speaker 1: wrong with that? Because yeah, bro, you're going on TV. Yes,
Speaker 1: in a relationship, you're going to have a different view
Speaker 1: when it's not broadcasting to people. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you are going to be conscious of
Speaker 1: how you're being portrayed, because, as we've seen, it can
Speaker 1: ruin your life. So I don't think that that's unfair
Speaker 1: for her to feel like, I'm going to make sure
Speaker 1: I do this this this. Yeah. Also, like, look at
Speaker 1: the way you acted, how you embarrassed her the whole time,
Speaker 1: and then she still stood by you through like the
Speaker 1: worst part of it, honestly, absolute work. And then at
Speaker 1: the end you're going to be like, oh, we weren't
Speaker 1: even compatible. She's a snob. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah actually cared with the public thought about her, she
Speaker 1: would have left your wall. Yeah, she actually got so clearly.
Speaker 1: She was working through her feelings there and then came
Speaker 1: to the conclusion eventually when it was like too many,
Speaker 1: like exactly, and this is what this is. It was
Speaker 1: such a good example of what it's like in real
Speaker 1: life because you're gonna have to deal with Instagram when
Speaker 1: girls are going to be do you think he's going
Speaker 1: to just ignore those No, exactly, and people from experience
Speaker 1: do not care that you're in a relationship. Girls will
Speaker 1: still message, so are they going to feed in that temptation? Probably?
Speaker 1: And that is like that is the biggest test. That's
Speaker 1: why I think two months after we get your Instagram back,
Speaker 1: bring the reunion and then get the DMS up. There's
Speaker 1: a difference between women and men that go on reality Tea.
Speaker 1: The women use it as an opportunity to maybe progress
Speaker 1: in their career prospects, and that's the kind of fine love.
Speaker 1: And also this I think men they kind of do
Speaker 1: it for shits and gigs and also so they can
Speaker 1: have like h that is what we say, definitely, but
Speaker 1: also like you just get to a stage of your
Speaker 1: life where like you know your worth and what you
Speaker 1: will and won't stand for, and you don't want to
Speaker 1: explain to someone how to fucking show up for you,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like I'm sick of explaining. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you want to be my friend, these are my boundaries,
Speaker 1: or this is how you see the boundaries. They should
Speaker 1: be very clear. You just want to meet someone that
Speaker 1: just gets it and is like yourself, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like that's like best case scenario. Yeah she should.
Speaker 1: Karina shouldn't have to explain to Paul that you should
Speaker 1: not have caught on a day with another one honestly,
Speaker 1: and just like the was it playing dumb or was
Speaker 1: it just like he genuinely thought that was an okay
Speaker 1: thing to you, And I don't know what's worse. So
Speaker 1: he'd be the type to like other girls Instagram bikinis,
Speaker 1: like those first chaps and be like, oh what I
Speaker 1: was just is a beautiful woman. I was just curious.
Speaker 1: I was just curious. That's my favorite quote the matter
Speaker 1: of this season. Imagine if he comes out with merch
Speaker 1: do it mate do something off the everye. I think
Speaker 1: at least one person every year comes out with my
Speaker 1: own Marge. I think Tony's already done it this year?
Speaker 1: Has he Tony time? Okay apparently? But can we talk
Speaker 1: about Jackie and clear Okay, that was the biggest bombshow right? Well,
Speaker 1: I honestly I have time for them, Like I think
Speaker 1: it's hilarious, honestly, like, and you know what, and my
Speaker 1: one thing that I would defend Jackie sis is a manifestor.
Speaker 1: She manifested getting a successful man, all her things that
Speaker 1: she ticked off her list she had, so honestly, I
Speaker 1: can't even hate, cannot hate on it. And I think
Speaker 1: that whatever approach she took fair enough, but she got
Speaker 1: what she wanted in the end, and honestly happy for her, truly,
Speaker 1: Like maybe things weren't handled in the best possible way,
Speaker 1: and I think there could have been a bit more
Speaker 1: sensitivity with Ryan and how he's informed about it. But
Speaker 1: again we don't know what the dynamics were like because
Speaker 1: he was said, like a couple of days BEFO for
Speaker 1: Final Vours, they spoke and they didn't really know what
Speaker 1: was happening. They were friends and then these links some messages.
Speaker 1: I don't really know. It seems like maybe they kind
Speaker 1: of both mutually agreed to stay till the end. I
Speaker 1: don't know. And then obviously when he asked her about
Speaker 1: their relationship, they didn't really say anything about it. I
Speaker 1: did find hilarious. Clint was like, we're not fucking friends.
Speaker 1: I was. I just didn't think that was nest that
Speaker 1: he said. It was just so gressful. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: to call him out though. The Western Sydney needs to stop.
Speaker 1: Western Sydney is a majority of Sydney babes. That's like
Speaker 1: anything past itself and new town Western Sydney. So why
Speaker 1: why you talk about the significant population and what like,
Speaker 1: what's the undertones there? Yeah, so called people. I don't
Speaker 1: know because I'm originally from Adelaide and I didn't understand
Speaker 1: this east suburb western like, so there's certain suburbs where
Speaker 1: if you say you're from there, your people's heads will
Speaker 1: either turn and be more respectful, more open versus like
Speaker 1: they will be like no like judgment. I think the
Speaker 1: general judgment, which I think isn't entirely accurate, but is
Speaker 1: that Western Synty is the lower socioeconomic area, which is
Speaker 1: completely not true, but that was obviously the sentiment that
Speaker 1: he was trying to get out. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: think it's offensive because you look at West City, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of ethnic people, whereas on this side of
Speaker 1: let's just go from like Newtown, right, I think you
Speaker 1: got one side and it goes more ethnic and then
Speaker 1: you've got like a lot of white people on the
Speaker 1: other side. And like the eastern suburbs is predominantly white people,
Speaker 1: so I think, and like Northern Beaches white people. Like
Speaker 1: that's just how it is, and that is just what
Speaker 1: it's like. And I think when you're making comments like that,
Speaker 1: it just does not sit right with a majority of people.
Speaker 1: It's like, what is the underlying message that you're trying
Speaker 1: to get out when you're saying that, because it's like
Speaker 1: at the same time, like Ryan Boardy's own place, like
Speaker 1: I think that should be like appreciated no matter where
Speaker 1: it is, like Okay, cool, you've had a successful career,
Speaker 1: you've got your porsches, whatever. I think there's nothing more
Speaker 1: ecky to me than a rich person that talks about
Speaker 1: being rich and like, yeah, like why were we like
Speaker 1: why are we judging like anyone and who cares would
Speaker 1: you even say? And you know there, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've been following along on their TikTok. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of tiktoks that Clinton and Jackie are making
Speaker 1: and they're saying that they're going into business together. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: Like what a shitty move to like, you know, talk
Speaker 1: shit about a big city of like Sydney, which yeah,
Speaker 1: like millions of people. Yeah, when you're about to start
Speaker 1: a business together, that's weird to me. Yeah. There was
Speaker 1: a lot of negativity around them, like moving so quickly
Speaker 1: and all of all of that, right, which I think
Speaker 1: is not fair in a sense that relationships move. However,
Speaker 1: the time to work for both people obviously you've got
Speaker 1: factors like age and just where you're at in lives.
Speaker 1: So I think I don't really think it's too soon.
Speaker 1: I mean the moving in. I thought they moved in
Speaker 1: like much later. So I don't realize they've moved in
Speaker 1: because that was what four weeks. They've built a relationship
Speaker 1: within the four weeks after final of ours to the reunion,
Speaker 1: and then they were moving in after that, like a
Speaker 1: month is pretty crazy. I don't even think it was
Speaker 1: a month from my understanding they only had three weeks
Speaker 1: we're talking to right like that is, but that's why
Speaker 1: everyone's suspecting, which makes a little bit more sense. Yes,
Speaker 1: so surely, I don't know. I don't know. I do think,
Speaker 1: I mean, every relationship to their own. I think anyone
Speaker 1: that's pushing to move in that rapidly it is a
Speaker 1: bit of a red flag. Do you reckon? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think personally from my experience, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: wanted to move in with my partner how quickly it happened.
Speaker 1: And I know you go through the experience, like the
Speaker 1: experiment and you do that, but I think it really
Speaker 1: escalated our relationship to a negative point. And you don't
Speaker 1: you don't even get a date anyway when she got
Speaker 1: on the show, right, So you're not dating, you're not
Speaker 1: going on dates, you're not having that really fun period
Speaker 1: of what it's like to date someone, you know, that
Speaker 1: first two three months of like what it's like when
Speaker 1: you're like you're going out? Are you going to go
Speaker 1: back to theirs? Like there's a vibe there because they
Speaker 1: were long distance. I wonder if that had a true
Speaker 1: or so was mine? Oh yeah, But I just feel
Speaker 1: like TASiS like you the country water, so you can't
Speaker 1: really date when you're like true far away. But it's
Speaker 1: very like the moving in is crazy, The movie in
Speaker 1: is crazy. Well, we saw at the viewing party there
Speaker 1: were two separate divides. There was the So dramatic viewing
Speaker 1: party and then the Daily Mail one. Clint and Jackie
Speaker 1: were at the So dramatic one and Clint proposes, yes,
Speaker 1: what do we think about that? We love the ring? Gorgeousous,
Speaker 1: that is a diamond, like wow. I first of all,
Speaker 1: from my personal opinion, I would hate it if anyone
Speaker 1: did a public proposal to me, So any future prospects
Speaker 1: never do that. That is so fucking embarrassing and that
Speaker 1: is like my actual nightmare, so so much like that
Speaker 1: is worst case scenario for me. That or like your
Speaker 1: family being their worst case. Okay, so me watching it,
Speaker 1: I like felt sick, like me how I would feel
Speaker 1: if it was me. But cute for.
Speaker 2: Them, yeah yeah, yeah, I don't know what to say
Speaker 2: expecting it and like her like crouching on like little
Speaker 2: couch next to him as he was trying to propose.
Speaker 1: It was typical like awkward Jackie style, but it was
Speaker 1: cute and the Taylor Swift music that she kept using
Speaker 1: for the reels and the tiktalks. I think. Well, I
Speaker 1: then saw a rumor that she like picked out the
Speaker 1: rings so it was kind of like she didn't know
Speaker 1: about it. It was it's a sponsored thing. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're the spons sort of Maths. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: So that wasn't all the ads. And then they posted
Speaker 1: like a collab post with the Simon really, so that's
Speaker 1: why I'm like, so he didn't come about I don't know,
Speaker 1: but the rings worth like thirty K but like, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm so confused. I mean, look, I think any success
Speaker 1: story from Maths we've got to be happy about, yeah,
Speaker 1: one hundred yeah, or like who are we to jarge
Speaker 1: if they're happy and in love and what it would
Speaker 1: have been like now November December January like four or
Speaker 1: five months? No, five months now, six month? That's like crazy,
Speaker 1: that's okay, Yeah, but they know they've been living together,
Speaker 1: Like I guess that's like a very sped up version
Speaker 1: of the experiment, you say, but like yeah, that's like
Speaker 1: that's fine. And Clint is forty something forty three, yeah,
Speaker 1: so like it's time. Yeah, right, and I think Jackie's
Speaker 1: like twenty nine or thirty. She just like I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like it just if it works, and it
Speaker 1: works for them. Yeah, happy birthday Jackie. By the way,
Speaker 1: it was not her birthday of the day after he ye,
Speaker 1: so yeah, cure happy for them. Do you feel like
Speaker 1: it's weird that Clint decided to use the viewing party
Speaker 1: that fans had to pay. I believe it was sixty
Speaker 1: nine dollars for a meat and great drinks and to
Speaker 1: watch the show with the participants. Like, do you think
Speaker 1: it's weird that he chose then to propose? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just depends like maybe they wanted to like give
Speaker 1: back to the fans that have been supporting them. I
Speaker 1: don't know. We want to look at it, and maybe
Speaker 1: it was a part of the collab. Yeah, potentially, because
Speaker 1: he looked like visibly stressed as he was doing it,
Speaker 1: like he didn't yeah, Like I was like, wait, what
Speaker 1: is he saying right now? Like he looked like anxious
Speaker 1: about it? Yeah yeah, yeah, I yeah, it just why
Speaker 1: would you want the pressure of all of that on
Speaker 1: top of like such a beautiful moment. But I think
Speaker 1: he really wanted it to be really special, so he
Speaker 1: probably thought, whilst the spotlight is on, Yeah, the tion
Speaker 1: is hot, let's just let's just do it. Yeah. Or
Speaker 1: do you know how Camon Jewles had like a sponsored wedding.
Speaker 1: I wonder if Channel nine would give them the sack.
Speaker 1: They will not, surely after all the rule breaks, they're
Speaker 1: not They're not getting any Chowel and I and special.
Speaker 1: It's not getting broadcast, they're not getting any. Look, she
Speaker 1: might get her own sponsors. Maybe I'm all about that.
Speaker 1: I love seeing like wedding recaps and seeing like the
Speaker 1: Vogue weddings and like all the sponsors and the vendors.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's on that level. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's always a divide every year with
Speaker 1: the cart So it's interesting seeing the split of Hugh's
Speaker 1: friends and who's not friends. But it's also hard to
Speaker 1: tell because we've seen like I was really shocked that
Speaker 1: Billy and Dave were at the so dramatic event, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I thought they were friendly with everyone else and
Speaker 1: it seemed like the majority of people went to the
Speaker 1: day the one or one so interesting, I know, but
Speaker 1: I heard that Jamie and Dave weren't on talking terms now, yeah,
Speaker 1: which kind of makes sense, Like I personally don't like
Speaker 1: to give any more time for my exes. Like once
Speaker 1: we're done, we're done, like you you've lost all accesses
Speaker 1: to me. We are not friends, We're excess for a
Speaker 1: reason for sure. So I'm with Jamie on that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she just had to Yeah, they just had
Speaker 1: to choose what whoever was going to was like split, right,
Speaker 1: but Karina and Paul were at the same one. They
Speaker 1: seem to look like separate. Yeah, yeah, good old ol
Speaker 1: ol Perkins was very random. Random. But we'll be joining
Speaker 1: next season honestly, or maybe another reality TV show What
Speaker 1: Else can You Do? Survivor or something? Yeah, not a
Speaker 1: dating one. Yes, So we saw that Adrian didn't attend
Speaker 1: any of the events, but he was at like the
Speaker 1: he was at the Daily Mayor Noir after party, right,
Speaker 1: but I didn't really see any of him, Like there
Speaker 1: were a few videos of him, like the boys and
Speaker 1: I think Karina dancing on the dance didn't see him there,
Speaker 1: so it looks like he kind of just came and
Speaker 1: just and just left. Yeah, because I don't think I
Speaker 1: him on talking terms either. Yeah, I mean they wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surely not. Yeah, and it would be hard to
Speaker 1: potentially because yeah, you'd want you'd want to separate all
Speaker 1: of that, And it would be hard to watch it back,
Speaker 1: Like I would really struggle, I think because I didn't
Speaker 1: have the experience of not being with my partner throughout
Speaker 1: the full filming process. I think I would really struggle
Speaker 1: to watch it all back knowing what the result was
Speaker 1: if it wasn't a good one. Yeah, I think back
Speaker 1: and I was like, obviously, I feel lucky that my
Speaker 1: experience was very like, yeah, it was great, it was
Speaker 1: actually the best. But then, like even I watched back
Speaker 1: like our wedding, I was showing my roommate she hadn't
Speaker 1: seen her, and I was like, fuck, this is a
Speaker 1: hard watch. I was like, actually, don't not doing that again?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, as I can't, like I
Speaker 1: just can't look at that, and it's like makes me
Speaker 1: sick knowing that that's like forever existing, I know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be really hard to watch your back and
Speaker 1: like the reunion and be with everyone and like being
Speaker 1: nice but also really bad memories. I think that would
Speaker 1: be like so tough, so tough, Like I remember like
Speaker 1: Nova used to do this Nova dinner party where all
Speaker 1: the listeners and fans can like come and have dinner
Speaker 1: with us. And I remember Channel nine ringing me that
Speaker 1: was so much fun. They need to bring that back.
Speaker 1: And they were like, right, we're gonna invite both you
Speaker 1: and Cody. But at this time we had already broken up.
Speaker 1: People had known, but the audience didn't know yet. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they were like, we want you guys to pretend
Speaker 1: to still be together. I'd sit together during dinner. Oh sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm mean to be a fucking diva, but fuck that. No,
Speaker 1: it's me or him. That was the one time I
Speaker 1: had my Mariah carry crown on and I was like
Speaker 1: being a full diva and I was like, sorry, it's
Speaker 1: me or him. There was no way I was going
Speaker 1: to pretend to be cool with him when we were
Speaker 1: so far from that. No. I think my advice for
Speaker 1: which I don't know if any of them need it,
Speaker 1: but I think if you're in the situation where you've
Speaker 1: ended with your partner, I don't think there's any The
Speaker 1: advice I got I'm not gonna say who from from
Speaker 1: a previous participant that ended her relationship was like, do
Speaker 1: not defend them because you're gonna regret it because they
Speaker 1: won't do the same for you, and it's just never
Speaker 1: gonna benefit you, and you're gonna look worse when you
Speaker 1: do come out and things weren't so great how you
Speaker 1: made it, made it out to be so true. Any
Speaker 1: favors to them, And honestly, I'm glad I like listen
Speaker 1: to that. Maybe a bit too late, but I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: do not do not defend them. They don't owe you anything,
Speaker 1: You don't own them anything, So do not do that. Facts.
Speaker 1: Yeah I wish I knew that too. Yeah, like just
Speaker 1: so yeah, absolutely not so anyone, Yeah, anyone from this
Speaker 1: cast listening. Do not defend your partner if you break up,
Speaker 1: because it's gonna get messy and it's just gonna make
Speaker 1: it worse for you. Yeah. But if not, you always
Speaker 1: always have like a second or third chance with podcasts
Speaker 1: and stuff later on period. Yeah. So obviously off the
Speaker 1: back of being on Maths, you do get quite a
Speaker 1: big social media platform. I always love seeing what people
Speaker 1: do with it after the fat yep. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: really intrigued to see what the girls do, more so
Speaker 1: because I don't really care what the boys do. But
Speaker 1: so Jamie is the most followed yep. She's currently on
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety one K. Yep. Great. I think
Speaker 1: she I feel like And I was saying this to
Speaker 1: her because I met her a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I was just talking about like skincare and like saying
Speaker 1: it how like how taxing the experience is on and
Speaker 1: like my skin broke out, like it's just whole stressful,
Speaker 1: You're eating crab like whole thing. And I was like, Babe,
Speaker 1: I can't wait for you to get skincare brand dealssadh.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for it and I'm waiting to see what
Speaker 1: brand it is. Yeah. So I'm seeing for her a
Speaker 1: skincare collab long term ambassadorship yep. That Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like that's really aligned. It was so good seeing her
Speaker 1: at the reunion, like glowing makeup was on going. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just goes to show like the difference between like being
Speaker 1: in the relationship that doesn't serve you versus like you
Speaker 1: know your body is like rejecting it, Yes, and you
Speaker 1: could just see it like progressively like yep, it's I
Speaker 1: fully believe that means I I've always felt that when
Speaker 1: I've been in those dynamics. I'm like, like, what's happening?
Speaker 1: They look back at photos. I'm like, oh, yep, that's
Speaker 1: not right. Yeah, this might be a bit TMR. You
Speaker 1: can cut this out if you want to. But I
Speaker 1: had some cervical cancer removed when I was twenty seven.
Speaker 1: My god, Yeah, and so that area has always been
Speaker 1: very sensitive and it has like limited my body's ability
Speaker 1: to conceive because like cervix is shorter anyway, basically since then,
Speaker 1: I was decided because you're serving sleep around, because it
Speaker 1: would it'd be like it comes to the whole thing
Speaker 1: under the shot, right. But obviously I was married to Cody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and every single time we tried even I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: they gave us so much loop. It was constantly bleeding
Speaker 1: to the point where our wellness did you guys have
Speaker 1: a wellness manager? Rene? She's gone, she's gone out, but
Speaker 1: she's gone. She was so good to us. So she
Speaker 1: booked me in with a guy no, a doctor first,
Speaker 1: and a guy no. It was a whole way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: She's like, do you want me to come to the
Speaker 1: appointment with you? Oh? Come, I know. She's so like
Speaker 1: Channel nine they do look after us like she was
Speaker 1: she was one of my favorite Yeah, yeah, but it
Speaker 1: just goes to show like that whole time my vagina
Speaker 1: was crying and it was saying stop seriously like I
Speaker 1: mean like it was like it would enter and it
Speaker 1: would be like Karamia river, like so much blood, Like
Speaker 1: it just constantly kept because that's not like you should
Speaker 1: not really be bleeding. But that was yeah, and that
Speaker 1: was like I've never experienced it. And when I went
Speaker 1: to have my my everything, everything was fine and since interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that I've been with my partner, now I don't
Speaker 1: have that anything nothing. It's so funny, but it's literally
Speaker 1: like whatever is happening inside you just is like yeah,
Speaker 1: your body would tell you. I literally felt not the
Speaker 1: same thing. But I just did not want to have sex.
Speaker 1: Oh really, I was just not really like it. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, am I like getting old?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I like what I was like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck's wrong with me? Because I've never had an
Speaker 1: issue where I never felt like I had a low
Speaker 1: libido or like ye didn't want to have sex. And
Speaker 1: then towards like so tam I, but I reckon the
Speaker 1: last like six months elation. I just like was like
Speaker 1: not interested. I just felt like sick about it and
Speaker 1: I just was like not feeling good. I just was
Speaker 1: like I didn't want to do it, and then it
Speaker 1: felt like I just like I just was like no,
Speaker 1: I don't like what like something was just like no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no no, I just don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: And then after that ended, and then I knew it
Speaker 1: wasn't you wasn't an issue because then when I like
Speaker 1: did someone else, it was fine. But I was like,
Speaker 1: how interesting because I was like, oh my god, is
Speaker 1: this what happens? Like? Am I old? Like like I
Speaker 1: was just a googling how like what age? Do you
Speaker 1: not want to have sex with you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And I was like, fuck, this is not normal.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with me? And I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: it's just the person. I just have to quickly add
Speaker 1: just in case that do I say this, like my
Speaker 1: partner now is so much bigger. I didn't want people
Speaker 1: to think it kept bleeding because so much bigger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's how I know that it was fine. Seriously though, seriously,
Speaker 1: because I remember telling domin Ellavis, I'm like, I keep bleeding.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's wrong with me? And like Dom's like, babe,
Speaker 1: just have some sniffs, some ammal what's that? Shut up?
Speaker 1: It like relaxes your whole. I don't want to try that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they were like, oh my god, is he
Speaker 1: really that big? And I was like, no, he's not.
Speaker 1: He was just like a normal average Yeah. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: my body was like nuts. Sorry, yeah, that's so interesting,
Speaker 1: but it's just like, yeah, goes to show your body
Speaker 1: is like get away. Your body will tell you when
Speaker 1: something is not right and someone's not right for you.
Speaker 1: So listen going on to she's got one hundred and sixty,
Speaker 1: what do you think she's like? I see like mummy
Speaker 1: stuff for her, like cute kind of trying to see
Speaker 1: her doing a lot of stuff with Cleo. Yes, sister,
Speaker 1: and then yeah that kind of yeah, and like beauty
Speaker 1: as well, she's got a weave and yeah, she's always
Speaker 1: got nice makeup on and stuff. Yeah, love Karna. I
Speaker 1: feel like same same kind of stuff, beauty fashion. I
Speaker 1: think she's also like a brand. I think, so we'll
Speaker 1: see how that, see how that goes. Yeah, surprised actually
Speaker 1: didn't get more. Yeah, I'm actually surprised at her because
Speaker 1: she's like I don't like one hundred k ish, but
Speaker 1: like Jamie's like doubled, which is so interesting. That's why
Speaker 1: I feel like love Koreana nothing against her, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I still felt like maybe the connection, like yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it was very clear Jamie was like
Speaker 1: giving her all and that she was very transparent, Like
Speaker 1: just the way she showed up was very her, yes,
Speaker 1: good and bad, And I think that resonated with people
Speaker 1: because they see the authenticity ess and maybe they just
Speaker 1: don't feel that with her. So I'm also like fine
Speaker 1: because if she's gonna, if she's has that anxiety about
Speaker 1: how she's perceived by the public, that's fair too. So
Speaker 1: that's the thing. But my advice for the next cast
Speaker 1: because I think we always say like just be yourself,
Speaker 1: but I've changed my mind. I want to rephrase that
Speaker 1: yourself be your most feral fucking self. That is what
Speaker 1: your publish itself. Yes, you're absolutely honestly, Oh, I could
Speaker 1: do part of me thinks if I could do my
Speaker 1: time again, I think I would have just been in
Speaker 1: the drama. I would have just stirred it up for
Speaker 1: the ships and gigs, and I would have just like
Speaker 1: been a hot mess express because that's hilarious. That's what
Speaker 1: we want to see in reality TV. Yep. I think
Speaker 1: you've got to approach it in a fun way. Maybe
Speaker 1: if it was like I wasn't in the dynamic with
Speaker 1: my partner that I was, I probably would have been
Speaker 1: a bit more like that. But give us what we
Speaker 1: want to see. Yeah, Like, if you want to cry, cry,
Speaker 1: if you want to have a go at someone, do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you want to throw a glass of wine, do
Speaker 1: not punch throw them, yeah, just throw them. Do not
Speaker 1: start a sentence with I'm no racist, but fucking put
Speaker 1: your partner first in the photo challenge. Oh dude. If
Speaker 1: there's one thing any future participants can take out of it,
Speaker 1: put your partner first in that goddamn challenge. It is
Speaker 1: not that hard. Seriously, it's so hard to watch, honestly.
Speaker 1: And if you don't feel it, lie Yeah. Why is
Speaker 1: it that men can lie off the cuff when they
Speaker 1: do need to, but when they have to lie, they can't.
Speaker 1: They can't do it. I know I would never understand. Oh, now,
Speaker 1: miss Queen Jackie, who's been jack jack White, I guess
Speaker 1: open online, which she's been very naughty. Honestly, give us
Speaker 1: podcast gabes. Yeah, as a podcast, I would be listening
Speaker 1: because she's sitting her actual mass account is sitting on
Speaker 1: forty k, and then her second account, which is her
Speaker 1: jewelry page. You're sitting on sixty seven, kay, which she's
Speaker 1: the one she's gone like completely roll on yep. Yeah. Honestly,
Speaker 1: people obviously seem to be loving the like commentary and
Speaker 1: like I see the tiktoks come up, like people just
Speaker 1: ripping her lives and like putting them up. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: just like her answering like questions and stuff, So give
Speaker 1: us more of that. People obviously love it. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you think their business is going to be because
Speaker 1: they don't said coming. Maybe it's gonn like dog merch
Speaker 1: or something dogs that could be cute or like golf stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But then she's got her Duray life.
Speaker 1: I think they could be like maybe just like an
Speaker 1: e coom oh yeah, drop shipping. Who knows what interesting
Speaker 1: to see the boy the Okay, So Dave not shocked
Speaker 1: about him having the most followers I see. For Dave,
Speaker 1: I don't have no idea he's going to do something
Speaker 1: that we're gonna not expect, something completely rogue and we're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, okay, that's kind of cool. I
Speaker 1: still don't I don't know. Honestly, he could be on
Speaker 1: the block. Oh yeah, the block would work him and
Speaker 1: Billy on the block. I heard that he has got
Speaker 1: a manager now as well. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: like I did it around this time, I would say,
Speaker 1: the show wraps up, you get a management and get
Speaker 1: the direction that you want to want to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually know his manager, so we're getting the club.
Speaker 1: But no, I don't know. I don't know what he's
Speaker 1: thinking of doing. So I'm quite intrigued because I didn't
Speaker 1: really see that for him. I didn't think he'd get
Speaker 1: a manager. I didn't think he would do anything. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's only something rogue like acting or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like because he is his bio says that
Speaker 1: he's a builder, but he's not a builder. He's he
Speaker 1: does like silicon Yeah, things so satisfying, kind of want
Speaker 1: to it's so fun to watch. And then I believe
Speaker 1: Billy is in construction as well. Oh is he? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Honestly get him on the back. Yeah, And then like,
Speaker 1: because I remember ol he's a carpenter. I just feel
Speaker 1: like the Trady guys. They get such good money. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: why would you don't know? I want to do anything else? Yeah? True?
Speaker 1: At least I've always got that to fall back on. Yeah, true, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder because what would they get like a Gillette
Speaker 1: or like partnership like tools or bunnies or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the mass audience don't girls bros like I would
Speaker 1: love to see them figures of what the female male
Speaker 1: split is, because I'm telling you it's probably like at
Speaker 1: least seventy percent women. I'd say more. Yeah, because they're
Speaker 1: quite good looking as well. I'm sure there would be
Speaker 1: a huge female audience. True, hey guys, and yep, you
Speaker 1: can't forget about the in betweens because Billy is sitting
Speaker 1: on ninety eight k at the moment, which she's pretty
Speaker 1: good considering he didn't even well, the guys usually don't
Speaker 1: get much of it, so that is pretty good. But
Speaker 1: he left like what week three? True? Actually, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That's true oppressive And the show
Speaker 1: hasn't wrapped up in the UK either. You'll get a
Speaker 1: lot because of the they will rack up audiences and
Speaker 1: Elliott popping off on his tick. No, I'm so intrigued
Speaker 1: about this like story arc change for him and like
Speaker 1: him just getting this redemption, don't I feel about it
Speaker 1: because something about him. I still just like don't trust. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like I do find it funny. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I just I don't know. I just feel like
Speaker 1: Veronica perten, she was done a bit dirty in the edit.
Speaker 1: I just don't believe everything that I saw. I feel
Speaker 1: like the reunion, like she was there like cricket show
Speaker 1: her at all. I don't think she said. We saw
Speaker 1: a single word from her nothing. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: And I feel like she was obviously just based on
Speaker 1: how I saw things play out in my season, I
Speaker 1: feel like she's reacting to stuff that we aren't seeing
Speaker 1: and her her energy is obviously because of something, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what is that? I agree, So I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm see more of that. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: like why do they have like why does he have
Speaker 1: this such like nastiness towards her? Like they weren't even
Speaker 1: together for that long, but it keeps dragging her and
Speaker 1: I just like, don't fuck with that energy. So because
Speaker 1: she hasn't said peep about him nothing, so that kind
Speaker 1: of says a lot. Yeah, what a season? What a season? Seriously,
Speaker 1: I think my only I guess thoughts is just I'm
Speaker 1: disappointed with the lack of respect the cast have had
Speaker 1: for the process of airing. And just like the show.
Speaker 1: I think it's been like every year we see things
Speaker 1: get leaked, every year, there's all of that, but I
Speaker 1: just think this year was taken to a whole other
Speaker 1: level and I think it did really ruin the show. Yep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like hard to like, I know, obviously we're in
Speaker 1: the space, so we're seeing a lot of it, but
Speaker 1: it's hard to like ignore it when you're seeing it
Speaker 1: so thrown in your face all the time, and I
Speaker 1: think that, Yeah, it is annoying, but it was great,
Speaker 1: Like the casting was on points yeah, and the drama
Speaker 1: the tea was just like the next level. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like maybe Channel and I need
Speaker 1: to do something this time, like either withhold a bit
Speaker 1: of their pay I reckon, or pay them more the
Speaker 1: more that they like be quiet. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: something like that to be an incentive for them to
Speaker 1: not because why would that be a storyline? Why don't
Speaker 1: they And that's why I can't even hate on them
Speaker 1: for doing it, because you're going to defend yourself. If
Speaker 1: I felt like I was in the position that I
Speaker 1: looked really bad and I needed to say something, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be defending my self because what are you're
Speaker 1: doing to help? Nothing? Is what like is what they're doing.
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, kind of respect them for doing it,
Speaker 1: but I think it's like the way you can do
Speaker 1: things can be a bit more with discretion. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not them, so it's hard to like,
Speaker 1: it's hard to say you're hard to say, yeah, what's
Speaker 1: your overall thoughts? It was just chaotic, honestly, and I
Speaker 1: personally couldn't really bond or relate to anyone in particular.
Speaker 1: And that's what I loved about Mass. I would hear
Speaker 1: someone's story and I'd be like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: could really relate to that. The only thing I could
Speaker 1: relate to was Billy's trauma with his dad with not
Speaker 1: talking to him for a while and then you know,
Speaker 1: flying over wanting to connect and then his dad was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: because had that happened to me in October? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that was when I was like, nah, I'm not done
Speaker 1: with my family. It's cool love and light. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that was the only thing I could really connect to
Speaker 1: because I felt like that was real and that was
Speaker 1: raw and I could connect with that. But apart from that,
Speaker 1: there was nothing else that I could be like, Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel that when I say that, be yourself, like
Speaker 1: talk about your traumas, like really lean into the process
Speaker 1: that word. But you know what I mean, Just be
Speaker 1: your rants itself yep, ratched rants itself. Yeah, it's our
Speaker 1: our feedback and advice. Ye. So obviously it's been a
Speaker 1: crazy season, crazy fact reality season for us as well.
Speaker 1: So sad that it's coming to an end, and it's
Speaker 1: been a lot. I feel like we've really been thrown
Speaker 1: in with the madness of maths and just everything going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now it's like a nice way to tie up
Speaker 1: their season back to reality season and I guess we'll
Speaker 1: see you guys next season.