WEBVTT - POST GAME CALLS: Crows lose final game of 2024 vs Sydney 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:04.680 Five double a football post match callers. 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:06.280 As Obrian taps it down, this will be the final 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:09.080 play for twenty twenty four for the Crows. It started 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.440 with so much expectation and excitement and has ended with 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:16.840 so much dissatisfaction and disappointment. The Swans will go into 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:19.480 finals with a thirty one point win at home and 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:22.160 the Crows will lick their wounds with a long, long 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:22.919 off season. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.600 Well, I'll be the one to say, thank god that 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.360 season's open. That was hard work. 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.040 That's the full stop this game need that I think 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.960 in the season really eight double two three double o 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.040 double O. Let's let you put the full stop on 0:00:59.920 --> 0:01:02.160 the season as well, because it's been a grinding one 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:03.840 for a lot of Crows fans. This is our after 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:08.000 the game for ACE Transport Solutions. If you need more drivers, 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:12.119 A Transport Solutions need more drivers, Ace Transport Dot Au. 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.679 Get on the phones, Crows fans. We'd love to hear 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:16.360 from you on the back of what was the game 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.320 to forget and maybe a season of forget as well. 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.440 So much that just didn't quite go right in so 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:22.480 many different ways. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:22.759 Camp. 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.840 I would love your assessment quickly on this game, and 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:26.400 then we'll talk about the years old. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.880 Yeah, well, I mean they won the last quarter Adelaide, 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.920 but I think Sydney pretty much put a Q in 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:32.280 the rack. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.920 But Adelaide kept trying, which is all you can ask. 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:36.520 I guess at the end of the day, for some 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.840 little bit of respect, you know, ultimately the first you know, 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.080 three quarters, Sydney were all over them. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.560 They couldn't defend them. They couldn't get it done around, 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.560 particularly around the turnover game. They were too slick. 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.720 With their ball movement and their handballs and particularly out 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.760 of their back half. So I guess a couple of 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.600 the highlights, Riley Philthorpe had eight mark seven of those 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.880 are inside fifty kick three goals three, so. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.040 He looked, Yeah, he had no answer for him. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.880 The inside fifty for the Crows gamper they had what's 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:10.000 that fifty for the night? 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.640 So where would that sit? Says a bad average? 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.440 They normally had average about forty nine, so. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.600 It's about average. It just feels like Riley phil Ford 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.200 is at the point of his career where you know, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.399 Stardom beckons that's the most exciting thing about this list 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.079 at the moment. They've got a guy there who has 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:29.160 all the tools. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:33.480 You can build something around come hopefully you know, Folk 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.720 can improve again. You know, I think he's he's improved 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.480 this year. He's one of the players that have gone 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.840 this year. Yeah forty yep, career best for himself. So 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.359 that's that's two key forwards. And you throw your eyes 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.720 at ranking in there as well. So they've they've got 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.400 enough five power forward for mine. I think they've definitely 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.400 got that. But you know it's it's still for me 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.600 around the midfield. You know, they got showed up again today, 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.400 you know, with class and run and carry and you 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.600 know the highlight I guess you know, Bond goes to 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.400 Gerrol Gordon, who we spoke wholly about at halftime. He 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.440 only had five disposers after halftime. Who maybe if you 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.560 go from that from the start, what does that change 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:14.080 the result? 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.520 I don't know. You know, hindsight's a. 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.920 Wonderful thing in our game and you never get too 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.440 many wrong in hindsight there. 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.320 But ultimately, you know, that's a win. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.400 You know, we know what he can do now, they 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.880 know that they've got that in the kit bag in 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:30.639 terms of what he can do if that's what they 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.720 want to potentially do. 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:33.520 But they just. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:34.240 Controlled the gum. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:39.160 I mean after halftime Sydney had what's that seventy nine 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.880 marks in a half, so they've just controlled the ball 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:43.040 pretty much. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.880 On the back of that strategy of trying to shut. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.880 Down Goulden, they just gave Blaky kick two off half back. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.760 They had no answer for him Roberts, So the two 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.560 actually the three highest possession getters at the end of 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:00.200 the day, Nick Blakey with thirty two, Roberts with thirty one, 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:01.360 and Mills for twenty seven. 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.480 So they just controlled the game out of the back half. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.119 And if you talk about marks fourteen, ten and ten 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.240 in the same order, so they're just controlling the game 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:12.920 and you just couldn't get it back off from So 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.640 at the end of the day, Sydney was far too good. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.840 We know that the top of the ladder for a reason. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.120 But from Adelaide perspective, you know, after the week they 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.080 had with the showdown and the whole Joshua Shelley stuff 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.919 and all that sort of thing got blown out of 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.000 the water in three quarters to be honest, And what the. 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.960 Best thing is I think for the Adelaide Crows going 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.960 in the off season is you're only as good as 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:36.640 your last game. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:38.159 We saw the gold club. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.920 That's the gold standard, that's the benchmark the Sydney Swans, 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.280 and that's what the Crows would aspire to be in 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:44.039 years to come. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.240 So they got to look at it tonight. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.520 They saw where they sat against that tonight and as 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:50.200 you said, they. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.880 Put a score on the board. Ninety points isn't a 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:52.400 bad score. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.360 Their forwards are doing the job when they get in there, 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.599 but they don't get in there enough and Sydney they 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.600 broke open the defenses. So we'd love your thoughts on 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.760 the season and the game tonight. Eight double two three, 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:04.880 double o, double over. I feel like the next week 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.200 is probably going to be a bit of an exit 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:10.520 review for the Crow's supporters as well, So let's start 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.240 it off with John at West Croydon. 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.760 Hi, John, how are you going fellas? 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:15.960 Yeah? 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.080 Just touching on what Campo said about the slick ball 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:23.360 movement of Sydney. Does anybody in their right mind actually 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.560 think that the Crows in year five under the current 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:32.440 tenure have improved that much from year one? And I'll 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.720 tell you why. There's three pillars at this footy club 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.360 that I laid this blame on Number one John Olsen, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.880 he was on your program ROWI interviewed him about the 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:48.440 reappointment of Matthew Nicks and Rowe was asking why it 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:53.600 was done so early, and John's response was why not? Well, 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.120 what a magnificent measure of success that is? 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:57.680 Why not? 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.960 Well, why not my grandmother? Then we have Tim Silver's 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.279 coming on here, continually backing up Matthew Nicks on the 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.039 back of what you just have to look at his 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.360 results to be thinking, hey, what is going on here? 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:13.800 What are these guys actually thinking? 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.839 We then had. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:23.320 Adam Kelly throw a talk about values and standards in 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.960 the meantime, our leadership guys throw young Rachel under the bus. 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:31.000 Now the boys on your program, I think it was 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.440 probably yes or when the Rochelley things came up. The 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.440 breakfast guys put it beautifully. 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:37.760 We are year five. 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.440 Values and standards in year five are the sum of 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:46.599 what fifteenth on the premiership table and a crap footy club. 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.280 And that's pretty much where we're at. Because urani as 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.280 good as your results, and Urani as good as the 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.880 leadership in your football club. And I don't rate John Olsen, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.200 I don't rate Tim Silvers. I don't rate Adam Kelly 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.520 and I don't Matthewnique. 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.840 Thank you, John, Which to your point about four years 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.359 ago they improved, Well, here's the win the win titles 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:13.160 seven eight last year eleven eight seven eight, eleven eight. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.800 I mean, if you chart that on a graph, you're 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.560 not saying it's particularly exciting growth over that period. 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.360 But let's just defend the board for one second in 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.920 regards to the growth. So twenty twenty was when Matthewnics 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.040 came in three wins. That was the beginning of a rebuild. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.200 The next two years were also classified as rebuild. They 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:34.520 went and COVID, so they went three seven eight. That's growth, 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.680 that's building, that's development, that's experience into players that they've recruited. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.560 Then you get twenty twenty three, which I think was 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.240 somewhat one out of a box. They sat in the 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.840 eight for pretty much the entire season and then they 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.720 fell out right at the death. So with eleven wins, 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.000 it could have been twelve if Butts and Kenny nuts. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.040 But for what we knew in the if Crow's fans 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.720 over this summer, this last summer gone were predicting a 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:02.320 season of this quality, I think they would be probably 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.200 in the minority. There are a lot of fans with 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.240 a lot of excitement heading into this year. There are 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.200 a lot of fans thinking that Matthew Nicks had grown 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.000 the team from when he began in terms. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:11.440 Of a win. 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.640 Trend upward over those years, and I think a lot 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:19.320 of the players had been putting experience into maybe fifty 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.520 to fifty at this point were the right players and 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.560 the wrong players. Who knows how that will all end up, 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.200 but at this point I think the question around why 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.640 did they sign him when they did. I think at 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.000 the point in time that they had they had enough 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.280 to say they can back him in. But if they 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.880 had more information they definitely would have got a different answer, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.160 absolutely right. But in that moment, that's what it looked good. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.920 At that moment, they'd never had a period of footy 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.240 with expectation. So at the end of last year, the 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.360 leadership of the club havn't said rebuilds over. They said 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.559 finals is the goal, and then one round in the expectation. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:59.240 The word expectation started coming in now. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.320 At the beginning of the downfall in a way, because 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.439 that's when you put that into the player's mind that hey, 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:05.680 we're ready to play fine. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.360 Just to round out that thought, though, it just strikes 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:09.920 me as there would have been two questions. I would 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.560 have thought that ninety percent of people not party the 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.680 decision would have asked when it came to the resigned 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.160 the coach. Question one, who are we bidding against you? 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.160 Is there a danger going to lose the coach? 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:20.600 Right? 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.440 It didn't seem like that was true. Haven't heard anything 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.000 subsequent that would suggest there was any bidding war. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:26.320 Not at all. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.000 And the other one of us would can we just 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.439 see what this looks like for a month or two 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:35.320 months in a season we've got expectation, and then maybe 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.280 round six you go, if it's going, then we say, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:42.040 let's so there's no chit chat or distraction or so forth. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.400 This is one of the most peculiar decisions, and. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:49.000 It happens, you know, not just in Adelaide. Does the 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:50.400 AFO as a sport? 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.240 When was the last time someone you know pulled the 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.640 trigger from a club perspective? And you guys might be 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.080 I've been trying to think about it as well and going, 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.040 you know what, I know that coaches in the last 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:02.520 year of his contract. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.880 But we'll just wait, We'll just wait. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:09.120 But first, for some reason, like in NBA or the NFL, 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:10.240 they know that they just wait. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:12.040 They don't that's rightly. 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.480 They wait and they go, well, let's see how it goes, 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.839 and ultimately, if that coach wants to leave, will get 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:18.360 a better offer. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:19.280 Well, okay, I've. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.000 Got a theory on that camp. And it's a bigger 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.880 sport where it's probably a good sport topic. But you've 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.200 got soccer around the world. You've always got the threat 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.800 of relegation. There's a real danger if things don't turn around, 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.840 you just slip into irrelevance. Your club disappears off the map. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.800 In America, every franchise is run by a billionaire with 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.120 an ego that's bigger than his bank account, and you 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:38.959 don't get results. He says, I don't get on pain out. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.720 I'm sacking him. I'm hiring in footy. And the Crows 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.080 are in the most precarious position here. When you've got 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.480 a membership base, it's huge. They're never going to get 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.400 seventeen thousand people there. Yeah, and they want to be good, 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.960 but there's no real there's a you can't I said 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:00.360 this earlier in the week. You can't fake desperate fighting 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.760 for your life, for your existence. Today you can afford 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:04.720 to you like a guy and you think someone's good 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.040 and ever around the club's on the same page. It's good. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.079 We can afford to be a bit more pay. We're 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.000 going to afford to go into year six next year 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.319 with the coach who's got a winning record about thirty 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.600 five percent. Now, I know it's not the whole picture, 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:19.880 but I just I've got I've heard the arm that's right. Yeah, 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.400 it's a lot of evidence. Ken an ingle Farm, what 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:22.880 do you think? 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.840 I think what that last boat said was absolutely perfect 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:32.720 spot on. I'm right behind him and I'm discussing in 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.840 the craws, mate. I mean then players tonight. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.760 I mean you talk about dropping Rochelley dropped himself, Josh, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.400 don't give a crap what John Olson and Tim Silver's. 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.600 If I was you, mate, I'll be telling them now. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:46.520 I said, you're lucky. 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.480 I want to play for you next year, mate. I mean, 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.800 you're making me feel bad about doing what I've done. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:55.040 I'm on there trying me guts out. He's a young player. Now, 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:56.959 you look at some of these coaches that are playing 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.679 in these in the Victorian teams. They don't win five 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:03.439 CI scumes in a row and they're gone, mate, They're gone. Right. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.600 How many times have we watched this going on for 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:06.839 ten fifteen years? 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:07.200 Mate? 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:11.200 And another thing the Crows we won two premierships and 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.040 then from that time on we've been just garbage, not garbage. 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.000 But you know we just haven't been. We just haven't. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.880 And we're supposed to have been the team for South Australia. Mate, 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.240 We've had all these teams to pick from, We've had 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.680 all the money bought as far as I'm concerned, mate, 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.559 they've come in and they've proven to be better at 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.400 selections than us. I mean we're at Joe, I mean 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.200 fair weather supporters. I mean, look at that teen mate, 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.360 I'd be saying to him, what are you doing back 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.720 to Ireland for? We want you to play this last game? 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:39.160 Mate. 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.720 This is what it's about. It's a team game. And 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.520 as you just said, you said the right thing. They're 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.640 getting too much money here, right, there's four teams too 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.720 many in this competition and when Tasmania coming in an 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.320 orbit territory, it's just going to be an absolute joke. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.239 It's not going to be back and watching this senfil 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.760 when there's only three or four teams winning premierships for 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:03.240 the fifteen twenty bloody years. I mean, I can't get 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.439 over mate. I'm sick of watching it and the mistakes 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.880 that some of our players were making tonight. I've been 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.480 that leg kicking the ball in. I mean even Taylor 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.440 Walker doing what he done right and other players that 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:18.800 Jordan that the captain, I mean, isn't he's supposed to 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.840 be in the middle of the park. What's he doing 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.880 on the blood Yeah, he went back on that defender. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.440 They put him on the bloody back line. 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.320 Okay, thank you, Ken, thank you for your thoughts. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:28.560 Mate. 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:29.920 We have a lot of people, a lot of Crows 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.160 fans want to have there say though, but we appreciate 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.960 you and your passion. Mark and Freeling. What do you think. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.920 I got to disagree with a lot of what I'm 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.240 hearing at the start of the year. If they two 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.640 thought about all years text didn't pay until well he 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.840 was on one leg when he came. You take those two, 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.080 your best three forwards out of any team, especially in 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.640 the developing team. He's going to struggle. The only two 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.000 things that Nick's I think, well, one thing he's done 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.520 wrong and one thing he's probably sort of done right. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:04.920 He's got to put some of these young guys through 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.600 the middle. Is you're never going to find your next 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:12.480 for Tracker or Bonton Pelly. But Ricelle could be one 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.680 of those guys that his role. He comes into the 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.480 team based on a half forward planks, roll up to 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.120 the contest as an extra midfielder. The ball gets kicked 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.560 in on our forward line and it's one verse three 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.120 week in, week out. The guy needs to wake up 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.320 for that. The other thing he probably if I could 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:35.000 give him some advice they start looking at is when 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.800 we're kicking the ball in defense, just go you know 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.200 what I mean? Pretty much mucking around, But now myself 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:42.120 in the train of thom. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.400 Can make a lot of sense. And I think a 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.080 lot of listeners would have seen this. Certainly did the 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:48.800 rounds on social media the last week, given how will 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.000 Hawthorne have played when they finished that clear? But I 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:52.200 think you guys might have played it on the sports 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.120 show Did You Wear? I heard it somewhere where where 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:59.760 Tom Mitchell was being ripped apart by Caro and Maddie Lloyd. 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.760 It was on the Couch or one of those one 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.400 of those shows and for this was about two years 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.240 ago for his decisions to ditch Tom Mitchell and the 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.800 Agro Mirror. And they were saying, you've gone too hard, 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.920 your kids aren't ready, your teams think and he said, 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.720 and he'd just been to visit Angeposta Coglo was itself 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.400 theright time, and he went and saw him and he said, yeah, 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.680 but if I have Tom Mitchell, I'm not playing. This 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.040 is exact quoting I'm not playing Will Day in the middle. 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:23.520 That's right. 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.400 And so that now the difference that's come out now 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.560 and people and again, as you said, Kebo hindsight, it's 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.960 twenty twenty, but he was a bloke getting ripped apart 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.320 for those decisions. And I just don't feel and I think, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.800 what's Marcus saying that the Adelaide Football Club mode those 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:36.440 sorts of decisions. 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.520 Well, the Crows for a long time were saying we 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.640 need experience alongside the youngsters to give them someone to 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.800 learn in a mentor. But is that still taking away 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:46.880 from other players? I suppose that's a question right now, Campo, 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.680 if you were in the position of Matthew Nicks, would 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:49.880 you be doing it any differently? 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:50.320 Right now? 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.080 What's happened, it may well be. 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.960 Yeah, it's an interesting one because I think you know, 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.520 you talk about if you use your example will will Day, 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.600 He's picked twelve and he's a star. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:08.720 You play that, So ultimately whose Adelaide's Will Day? 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:10.360 Well, Luke Pedlers picked twelve. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.880 Yeah, yep, and they played him at a position, they 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:15.600 played forward. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.840 That was the different experience that he may never be 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.240 Will Day right now, I take that point. But just 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.280 in terms of how the two sides approach the same task, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.440 it's dramatically different, totally different. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.040 Yeah, and I guess that, well, once again, that's a 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:33.160 that's a list management discussion and where they see, you know, 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.040 and it's also a coach. 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:35.960 You know, what do I need? 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:36.600 What do I want? 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.240 You can see the team that they played tonight. They're 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:44.000 good decision makers, they're good kicks, they're. 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:44.920 Hard, they're tough, they. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:49.680 Run, you know, they've got all those attributes. So yeah, 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.760 it's it's it's a combination. For me, it's not just 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.320 one thing, you know that needs to be fixed that 0:16:55.600 --> 0:17:00.640 My worry is is is it gonna what's the upside? 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:02.920 Where's it going to come from? They're going to go, 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.320 They're going to get an early pick. They're going to 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:10.040 get an early pick this year pick in a talented draft, 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:13.040 a midfielders draft. They need to nail this one. Yeah, 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.560 you know they do, there's no question about that. 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.760 Yeah, clutch time is now absolutely get it right. 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.120 There was two Jordan's out there tonight, James and Dawson 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.680 and now there's Jordan on the line from Coramanda East. Jordan. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.280 Good evening to you can boys. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.800 I just think it was a real failure of the year. 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:35.240 We had some really good performances, but that's an absolutely 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:41.040 disgraceful performances. And to say that we're moving forward when 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.280 we can't even not even make the finals on the 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.680 Matthew Knicks absolutely stupid. 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.359 I think something really needs the off season. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.200 Thank you gone to Jordan, Thank you mate. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.359 So some interesting ones. So Carlton Away from Home was 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.080 a great win I think for the Crows. That was 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:57.680 early in the season. That was their first one of 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.760 the year. Can I preface that though, And I was 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.640 really strong on this. If you remember when on Tuesday 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:03.760 they went back. 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:08.600 But they got away with that right Carlton kicked themselves 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.040 out of that. It was too fair. 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.760 Yeah, and they had they led in like sixty entries 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.600 or whatever. And because I remember. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.400 Rowe got on their back. I go, mate, they're not back. 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.600 But that that was a fifty to fifty one to 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:20.359 say the least. 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:22.960 Then they had Port Adelaide by five goals. There are 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.200 the wins where they beat up on North Melbourne, West 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.719 Coast and Saint Kilda. But then I went against the 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.400 Giants at home, which at the time was significant because 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.720 the Giants were well, they were on a bit of 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.120 a slope, but still there aquality side and we'll play 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.640