WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 14 May 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.120 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.399 Hello, it is the end of your hump day. We're 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:11.200 on our way towards a weekend. Thank you so much 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:13.400 for watching, gheb you're happy to be around the country 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:15.360 right now, all right now there, We've got a lot 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.159 to get to tonight, including I'll tell you how. You 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.160 know when you look around there's all these flash cars 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:23.079 and flash homes and everyone looks like they're earning a 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.800 trivium bucks, but we know they're not. What that has 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.920 to do with Australian politics, I'll explain there is a point. 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:30.960 And yeah there's some data. We'll get to that in 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.640 a second. What about the new book that well tells us. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.440 What we knew what seventy days into the presidency of 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:40.360 Joe Biden that he was quite up to it. Remember 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.960 that is the first seventy days. We're on it for 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.680 four years. We copped it for four years while the 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:51.199 people who were sneering in our telling the truth. I've 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.720 got the receipts about some of the lies they told 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.360 in real time heavy hit us night tonight. We've got 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.240 none other than Stephen Conroy, Bromin, Bishop both here plenty 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.240 to fire up about or it's always in good spirits, 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.320 but certainly two people that have seen it all and 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:06.400 Meghan Kelly. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:10.000 As always fires up and is exclusive to pull my 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:11.240 real life. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:12.880 It's deprived. That's my opinion. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:17.240 This is aved disgusting individual about whom I wish to 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.560 hear nothing, nothing after this trial is done. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.679 All right now tonight I want to talk about something 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:29.560 that may fuel some people to suggest conspiracy theory. But 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.960 may I say, right at the start of this conversation, 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.080 I want you to pay attention to every little detail 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.800 that I'm going to say. Don't pay attention to the headlines, 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:41.840 or don't be half listening, because as we know, our 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:46.679 system of democracy in part works because we have maximum 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:52.720 faith in the process, maximum faith that how we vote 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:58.160 will be reflected in how they count the vote, and 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.240 the honesty of the process to around and gives us 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.040 the idea of whom the winner or the loser is 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:05.120 or in. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.680 Zoe Daniel's case, awkward. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.519 Now, the organization that has run Australian elections is the 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:31.360 Australian Electoral Commission. Now, like all government departments, it is 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.000 a government department, which means, yeah, okay, sometimes some things 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.720 that we here see and they do you slightly roll 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:41.280 your eyes at But the absolute central function of our 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:46.160 process of how we elect people is guarded by that organization, 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:51.160 and I have maximum faith in that organization. No butt's coming. 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.760 The story I want to talk about tonight has a 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.280 very important bit of detail in it now. As you know, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.760 sometimes when you're accused of doing something that disrupts a 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.639 process in a court, it is dealt with almost as 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.800 seriously as some of the crimes that come before it, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.800 like contempt or define the judge, or these sorts of things, right, 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:20.000 really serious, really serious, not to break a suppression order. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.320 And that's because you need to have faith in the system. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.080 And a little story has come out today that I 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:33.800 think we should have known about way earlier than today. 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:39.840 It involves how votes were being transported between counting centers 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:44.480 and another accounting center in the seat of Barton. This 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.880 is the seat of Barton in Sydney. It's one the 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.720 Labor Party has held for a while, is going to 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:51.960 hold for a very long time. There is no doubt 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.640 about which way this thing is going to go. But 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.800 this morning we woke to a story, a story of 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:05.440 missing ballot from the seat of Barton. The Electoral Commission's 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.320 ballot transport process is under scrutiny tonight after a bungle 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:10.960 at Hurstville in our South, an. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.640 Official took home almost two thousand votes. The ballots for 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.080 the Sydney seat of Button have been recovered. 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.799 Investigation has been launched into how nearly two thousand ballots 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.720 from a polling place in Sydney's South ended up at 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.560 the home of a worker responsible for transporting them. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:34.280 Huh well, this story was not announced by the AEC. Instead, 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:38.480 it was an exclusive story this morning by the ABC's 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:43.479 investigations unit. Let me read from the text of their website. 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.320 When all of this was first reported this morning. About 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.920 two thousand ballots went missing on election night and were 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:54.719 later recovered from the Sydney home of a temporary Australian 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:59.760 Electoral Commission worker, the ABC can reveal. While the AEC 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.800 he said the incident did not affect the result in 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.960 the seat of Baden because the votes had already been counted, 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.599 it has not explained how the ballots ended up in 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:15.600 the worker's home and has launched an investigation. Officials at 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:20.520 the AEC only noticed that the container was missing when 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:28.520 they began the routine recount of votes last week. The 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:33.120 AEC was not able to provide details about where in 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:37.920 the worker's home the container was found. A quote given 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:42.719 to the ABC by the AEC says, quote the only 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:47.240 specific detail I have regarding the collection is that it 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:52.120 was obtained during a conversation outside the staff member's house 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:59.159 following identification of the custody of the container. Again, I 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.680 want you to pay a time tension to every single 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.479 word in this I do not want anyone to take 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:09.440 the video and deliberately re edit it or use it 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.640 for purposes that are about undermining confidence in the system. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.919 The reason I am talking about this tonight is not 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:23.720 because it affected the election, but because the AEC did 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:31.200 not tell anyone publicly that this had actually happened. In fact, 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.159 it was only after the reporting of the ABC this 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:38.120 morning that they released a more detailed insight into what 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:43.800 took place here. This is directly from the Australian Electoral Commission. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:49.720 The AEC exhausted numerous avenues of inquiry ascertaining that the 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:56.640 authorized transport officer inadvertently maintained possession of the single missing container. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:02.599 It was recovered from the transport offer fully intact with 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:08.840 all uniquely coded security seals unbroken and without any damage. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:14.360 All ballot papers were still in the recovered ballot paper 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:18.680 transport container and were promptly returned to the counting center 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.800 and have undergone fresh scrutiny. The fresh scrutiny count matched 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.840 the initial count in the electoral division of Barden, and 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:31.160 it was unaffected by this incident. That's really important, Okay, 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:36.640 none of this changed the result. While respecting the privacy 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.000 of the individual concern, the AEC did experience a number 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:44.040 of challenges in communicating with this person as we explored 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.080 all possible avenues of inquiry. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:47.320 What does that mean? 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.240 We're of the view that, with evidence available to us 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:55.040 at this time that the transport officer inadvertently overlooked the 0:07:55.080 --> 0:08:00.040 return of the transport contailer and was indifferent to the 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:05.280 implications and our serious concerns, this does not appear to 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:09.560 be a deliberate act. So good news. A box of 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:14.520 votes that had been counted went missing. The box was 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.960 not tampered with, Nobody fiddled with anything, nobody broke anything. 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:24.720 There is no threat to the process. My point tonight, though, 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.400 is that to make sure that we have maximum faith 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.480 in the electoral process. When something like this happens, the 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.240 AEC needs to make it publicly known. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:37.640 Now. 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.800 I don't know why they didn't. I don't know how 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:46.240 the abc knew something that the AEC didn't know. According 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.800 to all of the information available to us right now, 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:54.920 the person involved, it seems forgot to drop it off. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.719 But there wasn't the only box that had to be 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.120 dropped off. There were multiple boxes House and Senate vote. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.599 So for some reason one didn't get taken. 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:03.920 Off the truck. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.240 So if you were in charge of the truck, why 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.120 would you not notice that you didn't have one or 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.600 that you had one left over, because presumably there's nothing 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:19.440 else in the truck? Right Also, can I suggest just 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:20.960 again why this. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:21.560 Matters to me? 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.480 It's because every election I'll get an email from someone saying, oh, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:30.040 I don't forget vote with your pen, don't trust the system. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.040 I don't want to stop the steel garbage to come 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.880 into Australia. I don't want to stole an election crap 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:44.440 to come into Australia. Okay, I don't understand how those 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.280 plastic boxes where you end up shoving in your vote 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.959 don't have something that you and I could buy tomorrow 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:56.760 to keep track of our luggage if we go on 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.440 the bus, the train or a plane and have to 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.160 be AirPods. It's not an ad for Apple, but there 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:08.200 are tracking devices that you can put in your kids' school. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.280 Bag to know where they are. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.120 Why is something like that not attached to every single 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.800 voting box in Australia. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:17.959 I hope that it will be. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.800 I'm sure they'll say there'll be some cost connected to it. 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.959 I'm not trying to panic a single person about the 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:25.240 Australian electoral system. 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:26.920 What I am trying to say. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.559 Is that because it is such a sacred thing that 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.320 you trust that you vote, that they count and the 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:39.679 right person gets elected based off those votes, that any 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:44.839 threat to that process at all from misinformation as they 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.240 like to say, all the way through to something like this, 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:53.760 the AAEC needs to tell us first, not wait for 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:58.559 it to be exposed by a media organization. And it's 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:03.280 not the first time that there have been incidents, small incidents, 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.240 not incidents that have changed elections, but they are really 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:14.000 important that we talk about them. Twenty thirteen Western Australia 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.560 there actually was an amount of ballots that went missing. 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.240 Former AFP Commissioner Mick Keilty was the one who had 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.000 to go and have a look at this and he concluded, 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:28.520 among other things, that some lacks security processes were part 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.920 of why a bunch of ballots went missing. This was 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.080 such a problem that everyone in Western Australia had to 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:37.560 vote again after the twenty thirteen election to confirm what 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:42.360 the Senate vote actually was. In twenty sixteen, in the 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.560 seat of Herbert, which is up around Townsville, that was 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:50.280 a scenario where the Labor Party was able to claim 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:54.400 that seat from the Liberal Party by just thirty five votes. 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.520 But as the Townsville Bulletin reported in the weeks after 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.679 the election, training Federal Police had to be called in 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.920 because there was an issue an allegation. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.960 Of multiple votes i e. 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.280 More votes than the number of people who were actually 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:15.480 on the electoral roll. Reading from this story, a joint 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.840 committee well pribe voting irregularities in the seat of Herbert 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.440 after the Australian Federal Police was called to investigate forty 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:26.040 two cases of potential double voting. Remember the margin in 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.120 that seat was just thirty seven votes, but there were 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.760 forty two potential cases. 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.040 Labours cath O'Toole. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.400 Beat the LNP incumbent, the late Ewan Jones, by just 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:40.640 thirty seven votes, and of course the Turnbull government we 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:45.679 all remember was only barely re elected with a majority. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.199 There was stories that followed this. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.760 And followed what the investigation was, and I'm pleased to 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.640 say that, according to again the reporting of the ABC, 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:58.600 the AEC said those figures were incorrect. There were only 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.839 forty two cases upon possible multiple voting that were referred 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.160 to the Federal Police in that seat in twenty sixteen. 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:09.720 Thirty three of the forty two were attributed to a 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:14.960 polling place error, so thankfully the number was not indicative 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:19.960 to what the result of the election was. Is this 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.280 story going to be on the front page of tomorrow's paper. No? 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.400 Did it lead the six PM news tonight? No? 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:32.400 But is it an example about every single dotted, I 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:37.199 cross T that you must have in place for a system, 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:42.199 because there are people who are desperate, desperate to try 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.720 to turn any small crack in our system into proof 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.640 of something that does not exist, which is an electoral 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:50.680 system you can't trust. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.319 So to all of the people who work for. 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.160 The AEC, I appreciate the task that is in front 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.880 of them, each and every election. I appreciate that we 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.920 are able to know within just a couple of hours, 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.400 regardless of whether it is a big result or a 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.480 tight result, what is happening in our country on the 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.880 very night of an election. I appreciate that they picked 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.280 up their game and they kept counting in some of 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.160 the tight seats on the Sunday, so the country wasn't 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:23.000 forced to be waiting until the Monday. But someone somewhere 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.400 is going to have to explain and we will report 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:25.920 on it here. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:27.640 What happened here? 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.760 Why was this known by the ABC so much so 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.680 that it was the one who made it public, not 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.720 the AEC who should have made it public, because again, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.480 no cracks in the system, because there are bad actors 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:47.880 who want to exploit it. Now let's talk to Ebus Elbow. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:49.920 He is yet again up and in the air. I 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.360 think he's in Indonesia. The American President landing in Doha 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.000 in Qatar as we speak. Whether he leaves with the 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:57.880 free plane or not, we'll get to that a bit later. 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.840 But we know that one of the most important parts 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:03.960 of the coalition that the Labour Party put together in 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.760 twenty twenty two and in twenty twenty five were seats 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:11.920 that had high Chinese voter populations. Now these were groups 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.760 who had voted for the Coalition in twenty nineteen, sixteen, 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:19.680 thirteen and ten. This didn't spring up overnight, but we 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.800 know they moved hard against the then Morrison government and 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:28.000 hard again about going back to the Liberal Party at 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:33.480 this election. So the Prime Minister knows that the power 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:38.160 of the Chinese diaspora in Australia is determined in multiple 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.240 seats that if any time, end of the future things 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:45.200 got close, they really matter. And can I say very 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:49.680 clearly there is a difference between the Chinese government, the 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.400 citizens of China and anyone in Australia who has connections 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.359 back to Chinese heritage. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.360 What's interesting though, is. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:02.480 That very clearly on mats a collection of people who 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:07.200 voted again for the Liberal Party in sixteen, nineteen, sixteen 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.160 and ten in terms of recent history and thirteen as 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.480 well well, they made a big change. 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:14.320 Why did they make. 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:18.560 A big change, because, of course the Chinese government punished 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:22.720 Australia for then Australian government standing up to China when 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.040 it came to its responses and responsibility for the outbreak 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:30.120 of COVID nineteen. We know about the trade sanctions that 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:34.320 were aimed at punishing Australia for trying to demand greater 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:40.680 responsibility out of China. Of course, with the change of 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:45.440 government was a change of attitude, and the Prime Minister well, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.720 he of course has been rewarded as being a handsome 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:52.920 boy by Chinese officials. He has set about trying to 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.680 make the most of a new and reset relationship, one 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.120 that has been seemingly. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.960 Rewarded by voters all over. 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:04.399 The country since the election was so definitive a couple 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:08.960 of weeks ago. But of course the Chinese government, which 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.480 is different than the Chinese people, which is different than 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.840 the people of Chinese descent who live in Australia, is 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.560 not your average bear when it comes to a government. 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:24.360 We know that this is a regime that has put 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:30.399 a million people into slave labor camps because they believe 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.560 in a faith that the government does not approve of, 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.639 that being the wigas. We know that one of the 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.040 very reasons why we turn to countries like the United 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.560 States and have to buy three hundred billion dollars with 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:46.600 the submarines is because of the potential military threat of China. 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.919 It's not about guarding ourselves against New Zealand, Papua New 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:57.040 Guinea or Indonesia. So we should note with caution how 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:04.320 the Chinese President has reacted to our election. The President 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:08.760 z has congratulated Anthony Abernesi and says that Australia and 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:15.199 China should work together to promote world peace. President Zi 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:19.680 Jingping has congratulated Anthony Arbernesi on his re election, saying 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.760 that he wants to work with the Australian Prime Minister 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:25.639 to strengthen their relationship and promote world peace and stability. 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:30.160 In a written message delivered on Tuesday as the Prime 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.520 Minister was sworn in by the Governor General, the Chinese 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:37.359 leader said that he had engaged in depth discussions on strategic, 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.320 comprehensive and directional issues in all three of his meetings 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:45.400 with our Prime minister. These discussions led to important consensus 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:50.120 that have provided strategic guidance to improve and grow bilateral ties. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.520 Strengthening cooperation between China and Australia is one of the 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.919 g is of great significance for achieving shared development and 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:05.000 promoting world peace and stability. The President's comments will also 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.000 run on the front page of the People's Daily, which 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:13.639 is the Communist Party's leading newspaper, and you see Antony Albanezi. 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:17.560 To keep the arrangement nice and happy, where plenty of 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:25.360 people get rich off the trade, where no messages are 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:30.240 sent via the social media apps that some people like 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.040 to use in this country, that would be anything but 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.480 supportive of the Australian government. There is simply one thing 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.639 Australia has to do, and that is to never stand 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.600 in the way of China. We don't have to take 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.200 them on, just promise to never push back. 0:19:45.720 --> 0:20:02.760 Or as they did in the disco era one for 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:03.399 the old school. 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.480 Now let's talk about our economy because there is eight link, 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.920 as I said before, between people driving around flash cars 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:14.640 and beautiful big homes and Australian politics that mix one Jim. 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.080 Chalmers, of course, Treasurer of Australia. 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:18.400 He is the one who well, he used to make 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.440 such an issue about trillion dollars in debt, didn't he. 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.080 Trillion dollars of debt, trillion dollars in dobt of trillion 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.000 dollars in debt, trillion dollars of debt. 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.720 But the reality is that trillion dollars will be racked 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.359 up by Jim charmers and the Labor Party. 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:34.880 In fact, it'll end up. 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.919 Going up to one point two trillion dollars when you 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:39.960 have a look at the predictions that are there in 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.880 the federal budget. It is one trillion, O should say, 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.680 not billion, one trillion dollars. I think we've got it 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.399 wrong in all the graphics because I wrote billion is 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.240 a trillion in the notes. I apologize. It is one 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.239 trillion dollars in twenty five twenty six. It is one 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:57.000 trillion dollars in twenty six twenty seven, is one point 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.879 one trillion dollars in twenty seven twenty eight, and is 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:03.840 one point two trillion dollars in twenty eight twenty nine. 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.439 As I've shown you before, that is tens of thousands 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.479 of dollars for each in every Australian. It is an 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.399 even higher number when you start to look at the 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.120 people who are currently under the age of fifty. It's 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:16.840 an even higher number when you start to look at 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:21.960 people who are under the age of thirty. And always 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.400 there is a political discussion and there is an assumption 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.359 that racking up debt is a bad thing that a 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.359 government should not do, and they will be punished by 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:33.159 the voters and they should be. Core belief of mine 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:34.920 is that when the debt is going to get too high, 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.520 at some point, you are ending up spending more money 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:39.240 servicing debt than you are on. 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:41.640 Running the government. 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.399 And we know that some of the interest payments on 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:46.840 all of this is going to be the best part of. 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.040 Tens of billions of dollars. 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:49.960 In fact, it's going to be in the top ten 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.840 of all of the things the federal government does for 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.840 the next ten years is going to be paying off debt. 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.920 But one of the reasons why the debt and deficit 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:04.080 message did not move the needle at all at this 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.560 federal election and may while not at the next or 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.000 the next, or the next or the next as the 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:12.320 debt grows, is in part how we live our lives. 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:17.520 The reality is that there are a huge amount of Australians, 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:22.879 myself included, who need to borrow money to buy a house. 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.000 But on top of that, there is many Australians who 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.240 borrow money to buy a car, borrow money to buy 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:32.960 a jet ski, borrow money to go overseas, borrow money 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:37.080 for things that aren't necessarily the have to haves, they're 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:41.920 the want to haves. And we see today that there 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:46.160 is a interesting piece of information which comes out of 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:50.879 the Australian Bureau of Statistics that shows us about personal finance. 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:55.879 In fact, in terms of the new home loans that 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:58.320 have been written in the March quarter, have a look 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.960 at the value of those loans compared to just ten 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:04.800 years ago. So people taking out loans in the March 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:08.960 quarter ten years ago, total value fifty eight billion dollars. 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:13.760 Ten years later, total value of those loans eighty six 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:20.240 billion dollars. We are borrowing more money to pay for 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:24.800 nicer things when it comes to personal debt ten years 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.320 ago in the March quarter, loans in the first three 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:31.320 months of twenty fifteen five point seven billion dollars now 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:37.240 eight point four billion dollars. In fact, if you have 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.040 a look at this chart, this is the one that 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:43.560 will frighten. Yes, the biggest debt that most Australian households 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:45.240 have is trying to pay off the house. 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:49.720 But if you have a look here where the household 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:52.000 debt the household debt. 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:55.160 Here is a scenario where you're going to need almost 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.720 two hundred percent two hundred percent of your annual income, 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.480 which is there when it comes to servicing that debt. 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:03.840 Now forget me. 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:05.240 I'll pick this point up in a moment, but we'll 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:07.840 go to the wide screen here for Donald Trump arriving 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:12.560 in Doha in Qatar as part of his Middle Eastern trip. 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.439 Of course, when he was welcome to Saudi Arabia, it 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:19.240 was a far more elaborate affair. We won't get much 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.080 stand out of this because for obvious reasons, there are 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:24.639 no microphones in and around this scenario. Parades will be 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:27.240 held a little bit later in the day. Qatar is 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:29.760 a really important story because, of course, Qatar is the 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:33.320 place where the leaders of Hamas have been hiding for 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.720 multiple years, living a life of luxury, while the people 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.080 they purport to care about, of course, are living the 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:42.560 life that they currently are. Qatar is also the place 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:44.399 that I was deeply critical of and I stand by 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.480 every word of it in the lead up to the 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.880