Speaker 1: Live on Sky News This Sharry.
Speaker 2: Good Evening Tonight, Peter Dutton tries to distance himself from
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, as John Howard declares Alban.
Speaker 1: Easy is out of his depth.
Speaker 2: This is Beijing gives Albin Ezi the tick of approval.
Speaker 2: James Patterson will join me in a moment on China's
Speaker 2: endorsement of Handsome Boy Albo. Plus is Raeli Deputy Foreign
Speaker 2: Minister Sharen Haskell will be on the show as Hermas
Speaker 2: hunts down protesters.
Speaker 1: And who is going to win the election?
Speaker 2: Well, we'll get the verdict from Michael Kroger and Graham Richardson.
Speaker 2: But first tonight, one figure Peter Dutton never thought he'd
Speaker 2: have to distance himself from during this election campaign was
Speaker 2: the United States President. Yet the focus group research is
Speaker 2: clear Trump is mostly disliked by Australians and Albin Easy
Speaker 2: has been successful in linking Dutton with Donald Trump. Yet
Speaker 2: while he is on the nose in Australia, polls show
Speaker 2: Trump's popularity is at a record.
Speaker 1: High in the United States.
Speaker 2: But just like the Tampa affair cast the shadow over
Speaker 2: the two thousand and one election, the Trump factor is
Speaker 2: looming large as a dominant influence this campaign, and the
Speaker 2: mood here has turned against Trump, with polling showing that
Speaker 2: sixty percent of Australians think his election win has been
Speaker 2: bad for Australia. This jumped from the forty percent who
Speaker 2: said the same thing just in November, and even shockingly,
Speaker 2: more people think the United States is a greater threat
Speaker 2: to Australia than Russia. This even as Beijing comes out
Speaker 2: in support of alban EASi. Chinese state media today accused
Speaker 2: Dutton of beating the drums of war against China, and
Speaker 2: then they praised Albanesi.
Speaker 1: For speaking the truth.
Speaker 2: This is the most obvious sign that the Albanese government
Speaker 2: has been coosing up to China in submission to the
Speaker 2: communist dictatorship. Yet for Albanesi, China is an issue he's ignoring.
Speaker 2: He seems unconcerned about the spy ships circumnavigating our southern coast. Instead,
Speaker 2: he's capitalizing on that anti Trump sentiment, continually comparing Dutton
Speaker 2: to the President, and he's compared Elon Musk's doge cuts
Speaker 2: with Dutton's public service cuts. Never mind that Dutten is
Speaker 2: actually trying to address the debt blowout, which is on
Speaker 2: track to hit a trillion dollars next year. We're here
Speaker 2: at Albanesi's senior minister's linking Dutton to Trump.
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton is going to back Trump over Australia.
Speaker 3: BC's dojie Dutton taking his cues, his instructions and his
Speaker 3: policies straight from the US in a way that will
Speaker 3: make Australians worse off.
Speaker 4: We don't have to adopt all of America's policies, yeap Well.
Speaker 2: The Australian's Foreign editor, Greg Sheridan rightly points out that
Speaker 2: no one seriously thinks Dutton is an Australian version of Trump.
Speaker 2: That prospect, he says, is absurd, But he notes that
Speaker 2: six weeks ago the Trump effect looked like a plus
Speaker 2: for Peter Dutton. Now it's a small minus and a
Speaker 2: corresponding plus for Albanesi. And Sheridan writes that Trump may
Speaker 2: become so unpopular in Australia that publicly opposing him becomes
Speaker 2: politically advantageous. He says that would be very dangerous for Australia.
Speaker 2: Yet it seems we're already in that place because Dutton
Speaker 2: had no option but to counter Albanesi's insinuation that he's
Speaker 2: Trump like the opposition leader came out strongly today saying
Speaker 2: he was prepared to take on the American president.
Speaker 5: Ultimately, what people want is a prime minister who can
Speaker 5: stand up for our country, and what they've seen in
Speaker 5: Anthony Albanezi is somebody who doesn't have the strength or
Speaker 5: the backbone or the will to stand up for our
Speaker 5: country's interests. He can't stand up to China at the
Speaker 5: moment with Donald Trump. If I needed to have a
Speaker 5: fight with Donald Trump or any other world leader to
Speaker 5: advance our nation's interests, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2: And Dutton has also been asking voters to consider who
Speaker 2: is a stronger figure to protect Australia's interests abroad himself
Speaker 2: or Alburn Easy Now Former Prime Minister John Howard said
Speaker 2: this comparison between Dutton and Trump is nonsense.
Speaker 1: Here he was speaking earlier with Chris Kenny.
Speaker 6: Likewise, here, Donald Trump looms large over the election campaign,
Speaker 6: doesn't he. Labor is trying to smear Peter Dutton as
Speaker 6: some sort of Trumpian figure.
Speaker 1: Is that realistic? Is it?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 4: The Labor Party will try any dodge, but it's not realistic. Okay.
Speaker 4: Trump is sentered right, so to speak, Although in my view,
Speaker 4: he's not a real conservative. There are a lot of
Speaker 4: conservative values that I hold to that he apparently doesn't
Speaker 4: mean he attacks his own security services. I don't think
Speaker 4: that makes any sense. On the other hand, things he's
Speaker 4: said about gender identity and university and say, well, I
Speaker 4: agree with most sensible Australians too. But that's, as it were,
Speaker 4: the low hanging fruit. That's the easy part. Of the
Speaker 4: harder part is what you do to your allies, and
Speaker 4: to undermine Canada is just I find it inexplicable.
Speaker 1: Well, there's no escaping that.
Speaker 2: Aside from alban Easy and Dutton, Trump is the most
Speaker 2: dominant figure this election, and he's turned into a negative
Speaker 2: for dut Now I'm not saying I agree with this,
Speaker 2: but this is the sentiment that's showing up in focus
Speaker 2: group research. Initially, Trump's refusal to take Albanese's phone call
Speaker 2: was highly embarrassing for the Prime minister. But now Trump
Speaker 2: is seen by Australians as too volatile, too extreme, too chaotic,
Speaker 2: and too untrustworthy an ally. And this shifting sentiment from
Speaker 2: Australians was when Trump mistreated Ukrainian President Zelenski in the
Speaker 2: White House. That was the pivotal moment, and now with
Speaker 2: the Liberation Day tariff said to be imposed on Australia,
Speaker 2: this will continue the sentiment towards the president. Now, these
Speaker 2: attitudes were clear from the voters that Laura j spoke
Speaker 2: to in the crucial Central co seat of Robertson earlier today.
Speaker 8: Differently, like ALBONIZI there's no way I could go for Dutton.
Speaker 8: This is said Trump mean, I don't know nuclear, he
Speaker 8: wants to settle the public servants, and you know, there's
Speaker 8: a lot of things I don't like.
Speaker 7: I just don't like Donald Donald Trump. Peter Dutton, who's
Speaker 7: a very Donald Trump esque person. I don't want to
Speaker 7: cut public services and be very anti immigration.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because the Trump factor initially meant that left
Speaker 2: wing governments around the world were on notice. Trump's victory
Speaker 2: seemed to signal the end of woke ideology. But now
Speaker 2: the concern about his reliability and conduct have seen this flip,
Speaker 2: so that it's conservative politicians who are suffering from Trump damage.
Speaker 2: But the obsession with Trump is ultimately a distraction from
Speaker 2: the central issues in our country, cost of living, national security,
Speaker 2: and Albanese's own incompetence. Now Dutton has spoken often during
Speaker 2: this campaign and before about Howard's influence on him. Howard
Speaker 2: is the sort of leader that he aspires to be,
Speaker 2: and the former Prime Minister stresses Albanese's incompetence.
Speaker 4: The description I would make of the Prime Minister is
Speaker 4: that is out of his depth. Now as a Liberal leader,
Speaker 4: I disagreed with Labor leaders a lot.
Speaker 1: I disagreed with.
Speaker 4: Bob hawklor but I never thought Hawk was out of
Speaker 4: his depth. I just thought he was wrong. I disagreed
Speaker 4: even more with Paul Keating, who I thought was inferior
Speaker 4: to Hawk as a Prime minister, but you could never
Speaker 4: say he was out of each dip, whereas I don't
Speaker 4: think Anthony Albanese he quite knows what's happening around him.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a brutal assessment, but it's one that not
Speaker 2: even Albanese's own colleagues would argue with. Because he is
Speaker 2: a lightweight leader, his intellect and grasp of subject matter
Speaker 2: is skin deep. As John Howard says, despite the fact
Speaker 2: that Australians usually give first term governments another go, he
Speaker 2: believes Dutton has a chance at winning.
Speaker 4: His free is still against it. But we have got
Speaker 4: a prime minister who's clearly out of his steps. And
Speaker 4: we have a situation where in less than three years
Speaker 4: the economic situation has deteriorated.
Speaker 2: We've been speaking about Hamasa's brutal executions, cruel executions of
Speaker 2: the brave Palestinians who protested against the terror regime.
Speaker 1: Now this is a crackdown.
Speaker 2: The Greens leader Adam Bandt has somehow blamed on Israel.
Speaker 1: This is seriously whopped.
Speaker 2: But for the left, Israel, the Jewish homeland is the
Speaker 2: root of all evil. It's an irrational proposition that exposes
Speaker 2: their fraudulent position pretending to care for human rights.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 1: Alex Ripchin said.
Speaker 2: The Greens had failed to express unqualified sympathy for these Palestinians.
Speaker 2: He said the Greens have exploited freedom of speech and
Speaker 2: protest in this country, supposedly in the service of a
Speaker 2: free Palestine. Yet they have no interest in actual Palestinians
Speaker 2: just butchered by Hamas for demanding that freedom. And Peter
Speaker 2: Darten today described the Greens as an offensive and anti
Speaker 2: Israel party.
Speaker 5: Maladim Bant represents the most radical party in the parliament,
Speaker 5: anti Semitic, racist party, and yet he'll be They're holding
Speaker 5: hands with the Prime Minister after the election in a coalition,
Speaker 5: which I think should shiver down the spine of every
Speaker 5: Western Australian and every Australian because it would be bad
Speaker 5: for the economy and it would be bad for Australia's
Speaker 5: international reputation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and an how wrong?
Speaker 2: This is quite simply a morally corrupt political party that
Speaker 2: has become so extreme that it can't seriously be a
Speaker 2: governing partner with Labor in the event of a hung parliament.
Speaker 2: In fact, Labour shouldn't even be doing preference deals with
Speaker 2: the Greens. Yet Albert Easy didn't want to answer questions
Speaker 2: about this today given the things that Adam Banters said
Speaker 2: about Israel, doesn't Labor have a moral obligation to preference
Speaker 2: the Greens lust there?
Speaker 1: And is this something that.
Speaker 2: You will use your authority and leadership as the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister and leader of the Labor Party.
Speaker 1: To make sure it happens? Is Jewish Labor members want.
Speaker 4: I don't engage in preference negotiations. What I do is
Speaker 4: do my job and Paul Erickson will do his job
Speaker 4: and the organizational team.
Speaker 2: Now good on Latika Burg from the Nightly for holding
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister to account. But what we just saw
Speaker 2: there was a serious lack of transparency and accountability. Yet
Speaker 2: again from alban Easy Now, the questions she was asking
Speaker 2: was about the Jewish Labor and p Josh Burns seat
Speaker 2: of Macnamara. But this question about whether Labour's going to
Speaker 2: preference the Greens doesn't just apply to that seat, but
Speaker 2: nationally the Prime Minister pretends preference deals have nothing to
Speaker 2: do with him.
Speaker 1: You just heard it there, It's up to his back
Speaker 1: room official, Paul Ericsson. What utter nonsense.
Speaker 2: Alban EASi is the ultimate political operative. He's highly factional,
Speaker 2: he's utterly ruthless. And here's also the Prime Minister. He
Speaker 2: is the person who makes the final decision on preference deals.
Speaker 2: He can't just pass the buck and avoid answering questions
Speaker 2: that are firmly in the public interest. And Australians absolutely
Speaker 2: need to know what deals.
Speaker 1: The Labor is doing with the.
Speaker 2: Greens an extremist and highly offensive ideological part with a
Speaker 2: warped sense of morality. Right James Patterson will be on
Speaker 2: in a moment on China's endorsement of the Prime minister.
Speaker 2: But now let's bring in former Victorian Liberal Party president
Speaker 2: Michael Kroeger and Labor former Labor legend, former Labor Senator,
Speaker 2: current Labor legend Graham Richardson.
Speaker 1: Welcome to you both.
Speaker 2: Michael, doesn't the Prime Minister need to say where he's
Speaker 2: doing preference deals with the Greens and if he would
Speaker 2: form a governing coalition with them in the case of
Speaker 2: a hung parliament.
Speaker 10: Well, he's answered the second question, which is that he won't.
Speaker 10: But you're one hundred percent right in relation to the
Speaker 10: first question, and he can get out of it today
Speaker 10: by not answering that question he was asked. But in
Speaker 10: the end, as everyone watching this program knows, it's his decision.
Speaker 10: He holds the swing vote on the National Executive of
Speaker 10: the Labor Party. It's ten to the right, tend to
Speaker 10: the left and him he holds a swing vote. It's
Speaker 10: not Paul Ericin's Eericston's decision. He's a bureaucrat, he's a
Speaker 10: party official. He doesn't make preference decisions. The National Executive
Speaker 10: the Labor Party does. This is Albanese's decision. And I'll
Speaker 10: tell you why this is incredibly important now because I
Speaker 10: think Josh Burns in the seat of Macnamara in Melbourne
Speaker 10: will now come third. He got thirty one point seven
Speaker 10: percent in twenty two. The Liberals and the Greens both
Speaker 10: got twenty nine. Labour's voters collapsed in Victoria for all
Speaker 10: the reasons we've known, Burns will probably come third. Now
Speaker 10: is Albanizi going to ask those Labor voters to preference
Speaker 10: the Greens second or the Liberals second, or is he
Speaker 10: going to insult the whole Jewish community by giving a
Speaker 10: split ticket which is which would just be disgraceful, equating
Speaker 10: the Greens views in the Middle East with the Liberals.
Speaker 10: So this is the big question which still confronts Alberesi
Speaker 10: between now and election day, and you can see he
Speaker 10: is very uncomfortable getting that question.
Speaker 2: Shari, I get the focus on Macnamara. I completely understand.
Speaker 2: But to me, Richo, this is an issue right around
Speaker 2: the country. This is an offensive party. Peter Dutton says
Speaker 2: it's an anti Semitic party. We just heard that comment
Speaker 2: from him. So why isn't this an issue? Why should
Speaker 2: Labor be doing deals with the Greens all around Australia, Richo.
Speaker 6: Well, Labor does deals with the Greens so it can
Speaker 6: win seats. It's pretty obvious the Greens voters will always,
Speaker 6: i think, tend to preference Labor irrespective of where the
Speaker 6: Greens might put their out of vote, because if you're
Speaker 6: voting Green, ten percent of Australians as a round figure
Speaker 6: vote Green, the number doesn't change much election to election.
Speaker 6: And that's the left of our political spectrum.
Speaker 2: But Michael, in the past we've seen Labor demanding that
Speaker 2: the coalition put one nation's last, one nation last.
Speaker 1: Right on preferences. So why is this any different?
Speaker 10: Well, it's different because no matter how off the edge
Speaker 10: One Nation were many years ago, the Greens are far worse.
Speaker 10: This is the most extreme major party we've seen in
Speaker 10: Australian history.
Speaker 1: This is my point.
Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, these people are very different. This is not
Speaker 10: a Green paper, this is a revolutionary party. And as
Speaker 10: you say, where are the demonstrations against Tamas supporting Palestinians,
Speaker 10: innocent Palestinians against Tummas. Right, we know what this guy
Speaker 10: bans on about. We know what the Greens on are about. Right,
Speaker 10: let's not beat around the bush here. We know exactly
Speaker 10: what these people think about the Jewish community in Israel. Right,
Speaker 10: we know exactly this Alban Easy, Right, Alban Easy is
Speaker 10: going to be forced. He's going to be forced between
Speaker 10: now and May three to say whether he thinks Labor
Speaker 10: voters should give a second preference to this mob, the Greens,
Speaker 10: this disgraceful organization, or the Liberal Party. And if he
Speaker 10: insults Jewish voters by saying you've got to put the
Speaker 10: Green second, or it's a split ticket, it's your decision,
Speaker 10: you know, Liberal Green, it's just the same. And I'll
Speaker 10: tell you why this metter so much. I'll take issue
Speaker 10: with Graham. There was a bi election here in the
Speaker 10: seat of Paran, which is very close to McNamara, just
Speaker 10: a few weeks ago and the independent Labour Canate directed
Speaker 10: preferences to the Liberal Party. A guy called Tony Luttin,
Speaker 10: distinguished former Labor member. He gave preferences to the Liberal
Speaker 10: Party because he said real labor hawk Labor Steve Brax
Speaker 10: Labor wouldn't preference the Greens, and sixty eight percent of
Speaker 10: Labor voters followed his ticket. So it is very critical
Speaker 10: in McNamara at least as to where Labor give their preferences.
Speaker 10: And this is a massive issue for albanize In. As
Speaker 10: you say, this will reverberate in teal seats and labor
Speaker 10: seats all around the country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed it will.
Speaker 2: Now, Rich, I want to ask you about this comparison
Speaker 2: that the Albanezi ministers are pushing, comparing Trump to Darton.
Speaker 1: This is damaging for the opposition leader, isn't it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess it is. A lot of Australians are
Speaker 6: not really an am with Trump and so you make
Speaker 6: it comparison. It's not going to help. But I doubt
Speaker 6: very much that it's a big issue, and I think
Speaker 6: Dutton is going well. I think Dutton's improved. I think
Speaker 6: Dutton works hard and I think he having an impact.
Speaker 6: So the best thing people can do is just leave
Speaker 6: him alone. Let him get on with a job he's doing. Okay.
Speaker 2: I think the sign, Michael that it was having a
Speaker 2: negative impact is the fact that Duddin came out so
Speaker 2: strongly today in that interview with clonel and said he
Speaker 2: is prepared to fight with Donald Trump. So he felt
Speaker 2: that he needed to clear this narrative up. What do
Speaker 2: you think What else does he need to do here
Speaker 2: to counter Labour's perception that he's Australia's version of Trump.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think people believe that. I agree with
Speaker 10: Graham it's a minor irritant. But in due course there's
Speaker 10: a long word to go into a now in the election,
Speaker 10: in due course people are going to say are going
Speaker 10: to work out? Well, it's not so much whether we
Speaker 10: like Trump or not Trump or not. The questions what
Speaker 10: are we going to do about him? What are we
Speaker 10: going to do about him? And what are we to
Speaker 10: do about these tariffs that are coming tomorrow? And the
Speaker 10: answer won't be, you know, just saying how we don't
Speaker 10: like Donald Trump. The answer will be who can deal
Speaker 10: with this blake? Who's going to deal with him? And
Speaker 10: the polls show very clearly that people think Peter Dutton's
Speaker 10: the right person to deal with him. As we know,
Speaker 10: I mean, I was reminded by the way the other
Speaker 10: day George Bush put tariffs on Australian steel in two
Speaker 10: thousand and two. Right, George Bush his administration put tariffs
Speaker 10: on Australian steel in two thousand and two. They were
Speaker 10: taken off within a week. You know how you know why?
Speaker 10: John Howard called in the ambassador, the American ambassador, and
Speaker 10: John Howard rang George Bush, with whom he had a
Speaker 10: personal relationship. He knew his father.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 10: Howard used his personal relationship with the ambassador and with
Speaker 10: President Bush to get the tariffs taken off. That's why
Speaker 10: in the end people are going to realize, well, Alberzi
Speaker 10: he's got no influence and rud have got no influence.
Speaker 10: In the end, Dutton's going to have some influence. Dutton's
Speaker 10: got some credibility. He's going to have an influence with Trump.
Speaker 10: So whilst the minute it might look like it does
Speaker 10: help Dutton, in a few weeks time people are going
Speaker 10: to stop complaining and start thinking what are we going
Speaker 10: to do about it? Nance will be Peter Dutton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the Prime Minister was in Victoria this morning,
Speaker 2: but unlike in other states, the Premiere was nowhere to
Speaker 2: be seen. Now Albo denied he was distancing himself from
Speaker 2: just into Allen, who's clearly unpopular, and she also tried
Speaker 2: to say that there was no snub.
Speaker 9: Have a look out the Premier Victoria, by a side,
Speaker 9: might see her later today.
Speaker 11: That you've had two premiers in the last couple of days,
Speaker 11: by a side, earlier in the day.
Speaker 4: Parliament sitting.
Speaker 8: It's this little thing called parliament.
Speaker 6: Paul.
Speaker 9: I've been speaking to the Prime Minister regularly as recently
Speaker 9: as this week.
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, rich O, he doesn't want to be
Speaker 2: seen anywhere near just into Alan does He doesn't.
Speaker 7: Look like it, does it?
Speaker 6: And you see there Allen is a bit on the nose,
Speaker 6: So I can blame him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to say the least, Michael.
Speaker 2: This as we've been discussing, this has obviously been working
Speaker 2: in the coalition's fate for the fact that Victorians are
Speaker 2: so unhappy with the state government. But I want to
Speaker 2: ask you what you're hearing about. How many seats the
Speaker 2: coalition could pick up in Victoria.
Speaker 10: So I think the Coalition are going to win four.
Speaker 10: They're going to win McEwan, chisholm Aston and I think
Speaker 10: now they're going to win Kuyong for all the reasons
Speaker 10: we've seen on Sky tonight. I mean, you can't preach
Speaker 10: in Tegntary and run a dirty, dirty campaign against Amitia Hamer.
Speaker 10: People are disgusted by what Manique Ryan's done. Labor are
Speaker 10: in trouble in another eight seats in Victoria, They're in
Speaker 10: trouble in a whole heap of seats. Their voters their
Speaker 10: primary votes collapsed in Victoria. So Tim Wilson has got
Speaker 10: a huge chance of beating the teal in his seat,
Speaker 10: and then you go to Bruce Holt, hawk Kerrangamite McNamara, Dunkley.
Speaker 10: I mean there's eight there's eight more where Isaac's where
Speaker 10: labor in trouble in the five nine percent field. And look,
Speaker 10: today was a very big mistake by Elbow. He needed
Speaker 10: to meet you, Cindre Allen and get it out of
Speaker 10: the way. All the press in Victoria today was how
Speaker 10: he snubbed just Cinder Allen. No either going to parliament. Nonsense,
Speaker 10: everyone knows right Channel nine, Channel every media in Victoria
Speaker 10: today was about the snub. He's got to meet you,
Speaker 10: Cinder Allen and get photographed with it, which will be
Speaker 10: pr disaster for him, but he's got to do it
Speaker 10: otherwise this this is going to be a lot worse
Speaker 10: than he's going to get snowball every day. Yeah, it's
Speaker 10: going to be the story every day, you know, indeed?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Look we're out of time very quickly. If you had
Speaker 2: to predict right now, Richo Michael, who would you say
Speaker 2: wins this election? I'm going to ask you every week. O.
Speaker 10: Well, I think Peter Dutt wins. I think he wins
Speaker 10: seventy two seats and he gets four independence and he
Speaker 10: gets here with seventy six, he could win his own
Speaker 10: right still, but I think a minority liberal government's the
Speaker 10: most likely result, Richo.
Speaker 6: I think I hung parliament's the most likely result. And
Speaker 6: I'm not sure once you get a hung parliament which
Speaker 6: side is going to be able to wing all the
Speaker 6: deal and you become the government. So I'm not going
Speaker 6: to predicted.
Speaker 2: No one knows more about politics than you two. Thank
Speaker 2: you both so much for your time. All right, let's
Speaker 2: turn to the news now that a freed immigration detainee
Speaker 2: who was this weekend shot by police in an incident
Speaker 2: in Melbourne Southeast had allegedly breached his visa conditions and
Speaker 2: court orders twenty six times. The Herald reports at the
Speaker 2: thirty three year old is one of more than two
Speaker 2: hundred former detainees released following the High Court ruling in
Speaker 2: November twenty twenty three. To discuss this and more, let's
Speaker 2: bring in Shadow Home Affairs Minister and Coalition campaign spokesman
Speaker 2: James Patterson.
Speaker 1: James, great to see you again.
Speaker 2: Look, this detainee is alleged to have chased police with
Speaker 2: a metal poll He was eventually shot. What should happen
Speaker 2: to the two hundred or so released detainees.
Speaker 11: Well, in breaking new show, we're up to three hundred
Speaker 11: released detainees who the Labor Party led out of detention
Speaker 11: following the High Court's decision. Of those three hundred, more
Speaker 11: than one hundred of them have committed new offenses in
Speaker 11: the community since they were released, including allegedly this person that.
Speaker 8: You talked about.
Speaker 11: What's most shocking about the fact that he's accused of
Speaker 11: twenty six visa breaches and other court order breaches is
Speaker 11: that the Parliament was supposed to have legislated mandatory minimum
Speaker 11: sentences of one year for a single visa breach, and
Speaker 11: yet that mandatory minimum sentence has not applied even on
Speaker 11: one occasion to this person. And why not, Well, the
Speaker 11: Department of Home Affairs admitted to me in Senate estimates
Speaker 11: last week that the Albanesi government stuffed up the drafting
Speaker 11: and left the discretion of these so called mandatory minimum
Speaker 11: sentences with judges who are not applying them. And so
Speaker 11: the whole reason this person was even free in the
Speaker 11: community comes down to another stuff up on community safety
Speaker 11: by the Anthony Aberesi Labor government.
Speaker 2: It's been a debaker right from the very start and
Speaker 2: has on several occasions now seriously jeopardized the community. James
Speaker 2: I spoke earlier in the show about the news that
Speaker 2: Beijing is endorsing alban Easy.
Speaker 1: What does this say to you.
Speaker 2: That a dictatorship is backing the current prime minister.
Speaker 11: Well, speaking only for myself, Shari, I would be uncomfortable
Speaker 11: if my views or my political position was endorsed by
Speaker 11: the propaganda arm of a foreign authoritarian government, and I
Speaker 11: would want to rapidly distance myself from that. And I'd
Speaker 11: be questioning what is it I had done and what
Speaker 11: is it I had said that had led to me
Speaker 11: being praised in a platform like that or a newspaper
Speaker 11: like that. It's really questioned for Anthony Albanezi to answer tomorrow.
Speaker 11: Is he comfortable with this endorsement? Has he reflected on
Speaker 11: the things that he has said and why it would
Speaker 11: have led to this endorsement. The particular thing that was
Speaker 11: prominently endorsed in the Global Times was his observation that
Speaker 11: the Chinese scientific research vessel in our territorial waters was
Speaker 11: only doing to us what we did to China. But
Speaker 11: of course that's not true. We don't do that we
Speaker 11: don't need as territorial waters. We don't have research vessels
Speaker 11: like these. We are not mapping the seabed off the
Speaker 11: coast of Hainan Island or any other part of China.
Speaker 11: And so it was a baseless comparison endorsed by a
Speaker 11: foreign government propaganda.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was so concerning as well.
Speaker 2: And as you say, there's a big difference between freedom
Speaker 2: of navigation exercises in international waters that are crucial for
Speaker 2: global trade and what's clearly Australian territorial waters. But you know,
Speaker 2: are you concerned or how concerned are you about what
Speaker 2: information this Chinese vessel and others like it might be
Speaker 2: collecting relating to our cables and other information they might
Speaker 2: have picked up.
Speaker 11: I'm concerned because we don't know. We don't know why
Speaker 11: this research vessel has taken the particular route that it
Speaker 11: has chosen. But it is not the most direct route
Speaker 11: for it to return to its home port from where
Speaker 11: it was off the coast of New Zealand. It's an
Speaker 11: unusual route. It does coincide with one of our significant
Speaker 11: internet cables, and it is puzzling why would choose to
Speaker 11: go this way. I'm also because the Prime Minister is
Speaker 11: not across the details. He said that the boat was
Speaker 11: being monitored by the Australian Defense Force when it turned
Speaker 11: out it was in fact being monitored by Border Force.
Speaker 11: That's a pretty big stuff up on national security from
Speaker 11: the Prime Minister and it's not his first one when
Speaker 11: it comes to things like this. So really he should
Speaker 11: be asking for an explanation from our counterparts in China,
Speaker 11: who he boasts of having a close relationship to. Has
Speaker 11: he picked up the phone, has he raised concern have
Speaker 11: we called the ambassador in None of these has been disclosed.
Speaker 1: By the government, and of course it hasn't happened. You'd
Speaker 1: have to assume.
Speaker 2: We've been speaking on the show tonight about how Albanese
Speaker 2: and his ministers have been comparing Duttan, attacking him for
Speaker 2: being Trump light. How do you handle these sort of accusations.
Speaker 11: It's just a cheap political stunt by the Prime Minister
Speaker 11: because he has nothing positive to offer about his record
Speaker 11: over the last three years, where Australian's living standards have
Speaker 11: been smashed worse than any other country in the developed world,
Speaker 11: worst in our history, down eight percent, and because he's
Speaker 11: got nothing positive to say about the future. So all
Speaker 11: he had his attacks on Peter Dutton, but the truth
Speaker 11: is that Peter Dutton would be far better place to
Speaker 11: deal with the Trump administration than the Alberanese government because
Speaker 11: Peter Dutton is a strong leader who would stand up
Speaker 11: for Australia to anyone, including the Trump administration if it
Speaker 11: threatens our national interest. And the Prime Minister is weak
Speaker 11: and world leaders know that, and that's why they walk
Speaker 11: all over him.
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister refused to answer questions today by The
Speaker 2: Nightly about preference deals with the Greens. I mean, he
Speaker 2: was asked about one seat of McNamara, but as I
Speaker 2: just said before, I think this applies to every seat
Speaker 2: where Labour's running. Do you think the Prime Minister does
Speaker 2: need to be more transparent with whether he'll preference the
Speaker 2: Greens and why is he preferencing such an offensive political
Speaker 2: party if that's what he plans to do.
Speaker 11: The Prime Minister's answer at his press conference today was
Speaker 11: absolutely contemptuous and the press gallery should not let him
Speaker 11: get away with it. He pretended he's got no interest
Speaker 11: in preferences at all. Anthony Albanezi is one of the
Speaker 11: most intensely political Prime Minister as we've ever had. He
Speaker 11: will be up to his elbows in preference, dealing and willing.
Speaker 5: And there is no way the.
Speaker 11: National Secretary of the Labor Party, Paul Erickson, would be
Speaker 11: making any deal without the Prime Minster's explicit endorsement and protection.
Speaker 11: And so I think there is a real test for
Speaker 11: the Prime Minister. But up front tomorrow, if you're asked
Speaker 11: again and say are you going to preference the extreme
Speaker 11: anti Semitic Greens Party, particularly in seats like McNamara, I
Speaker 11: make a bold prediction, though, Shari, he will preference the
Speaker 11: Greens in every seat in the country except McNamara, where
Speaker 11: he might do an open ticket, which is james possible
Speaker 11: option from a weak prime minister.
Speaker 1: Is that good enough? Do you think he shouldn't?
Speaker 2: Do you think they're now such an extremist party that
Speaker 2: he shouldn't be preferencing them.
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 11: As the Prime Minister said today, the Member for Newtown,
Speaker 11: Jenny Lyong made one of the most explicitly racist comments
Speaker 11: that any Member of Parliament has ever made. She said
Speaker 11: that the Jewish community had tentacles and that they involved
Speaker 11: themselves in community causes like anti racism causes, tactical reasons
Speaker 11: to manipulate those groups to increase support for Israel. Now,
Speaker 11: if any member of any major party had said that,
Speaker 11: there'd be serious consequences. But in the Greens there are
Speaker 11: no consequences.
Speaker 2: So do you think the Prime Minister should cites that example,
Speaker 2: But do you think he shouldn't prefer it?
Speaker 11: Well, exactly, chari and of course not. Of course the
Speaker 11: Greens don't deserve our preferences anywhere in any seat. Any
Speaker 11: self respecting major party shouldn't be preferencing the Greens. But
Speaker 11: the Prime Minister will do that because he cares more
Speaker 11: about his own political survival than he does about the
Speaker 11: health of our democracy in our country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, all right, Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson,
Speaker 2: good to see you.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Still to come backlash over Albanezi paying for travel for
Speaker 2: gen Z influences in an attempt to buy the young vote,
Speaker 2: and the Sydney School backflips on an outrageous decision to
Speaker 2: allow kids to opt out of an Anzac Day ceremony.
Speaker 2: Plus Sharon Haskell, the Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, will join
Speaker 2: me live next Welcome back, Well, coming up the Sydney
Speaker 2: principle now reversing the call to allow students to opt
Speaker 2: out of ANZAC day services just outrageous. But first, let's
Speaker 2: return to Harmasa's cruel execution of Palestinians who dared to
Speaker 2: protest for the return of hostages and an end to
Speaker 2: the terror regime to discuss that's bringing now Israeli Deputy
Speaker 2: Foreign Minister Sharen Haskell. Sharen, thank you for your time. Look,
Speaker 2: we've heard and seen these reprehensible reports, including an execution
Speaker 2: of a twenty two year old Palestinian who was one
Speaker 2: of the organizers of the protests. What can you tell
Speaker 2: us about how Harmas is trying to hunt down these
Speaker 2: protesters and their families.
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, it just shows how Hamas created
Speaker 9: a complete health of Palestinians in Gaza to the point
Speaker 9: that they're willing to risk their life again and this
Speaker 9: death cult to try and oppose it and to push
Speaker 9: it out of Gaza. Hamas is a terrorist organization and
Speaker 9: it doesn't care, and it abuses the life of Israelis
Speaker 9: but also the lives of Palestinians. The fact is that
Speaker 9: Tramasa is holding two million hostages in Gaza. Those two
Speaker 9: million people are Palestinians and it made their life a
Speaker 9: living hell. The responsibility is on them, and so the
Speaker 9: fact that we actually see Gazan citizens who go out
Speaker 9: to protests against Tramas show the severity of where Hamas
Speaker 9: is at at this point. You know, it's very dissing
Speaker 9: that many of the mainstream media are actually not covering that.
Speaker 9: But I think that the international community and the mainstream
Speaker 9: media needs to back those Ghazan citizens in order to
Speaker 9: release them and liberate them from.
Speaker 1: Tramas, not just the Meydia that's not covering it.
Speaker 2: But we're not seeing any protests from the left, from
Speaker 2: the supposed pro Palestinian protesters, none of them are protesting
Speaker 2: her Mass over this and Charan As we've been saying
Speaker 2: the whole time, Yes, free Palestine, Free Palestine from her Mass.
Speaker 2: This is the terror group that is responsible for every
Speaker 2: single loss of life since October seven. And before Charan,
Speaker 2: we've just heard the news that the Pentagon has announced
Speaker 2: the deployment of a second US aircraft. This is Israel
Speaker 2: expands its Grounder offensive in Gaza overnight.
Speaker 1: What's the strategy here? Is the aim of this.
Speaker 2: Ground offensive to target her Mass or is it to
Speaker 2: bring back the remaining hostages?
Speaker 1: Both.
Speaker 9: The fact is that the only pressure that released and
Speaker 9: brought the hostages deal, both of them in the beginning
Speaker 9: of the war and just a couple of months ago,
Speaker 9: are military pressure and the Trump's administrations pressure, the international
Speaker 9: pressure both when that was applied towards Tramas, that's when
Speaker 9: they actually agreed to come and negotiate and you actually
Speaker 9: agree to cease file deal. And so our goal is
Speaker 9: to bring back our family members as quickly and as
Speaker 9: safely as possible. We have grave concerns for them. Those
Speaker 9: people are family members, those husbands and brothers and cousins
Speaker 9: and grandparents. Those are in the hands of psycho paths
Speaker 9: from a death cult who's committed to the destruction not
Speaker 9: just of Israelis but also with Palestinians. This is a
Speaker 9: religious war at Jiha that there's actually they're actually waging.
Speaker 9: And so in order to bring them back, we have
Speaker 9: to put military pressure and there has to be also
Speaker 9: international pressure on Ramas, and I have to say, there'll
Speaker 9: be enough pressure for Ramas to actually disarm them, then
Speaker 9: Gaza will be liberated from this murderous terrorist organization who's
Speaker 9: a complete death part.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, Palestinians are standing up now Israel has been doing it,
Speaker 2: but we need to see more from the Arab nations
Speaker 2: in the international community to put an end to the
Speaker 2: Hamas regime as well scharan As.
Speaker 1: You would no doubt be aware.
Speaker 2: We are in Australia in the middle of the election
Speaker 2: campaign at the moment. The elections on the third of May,
Speaker 2: the Albanese government broke with long standing Australian bipartisan policy
Speaker 2: which has been to support Israel. Instead, they've been incredibly hostile,
Speaker 2: particularly at forums like the United Nations. Are you worried
Speaker 2: that the Albanese government would be re elected?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 9: We don't interfere in internal issues of the countries and
Speaker 9: definitely not in elections. For me personally, as someone who
Speaker 9: was an Australian citizen who made his life in Australia,
Speaker 9: that Australia is very dear to me, and that many
Speaker 9: of my friends and family lives in those Jewish communities
Speaker 9: who are terrified of what is happening there. I'm concerned,
Speaker 9: and you know, I think that the government has to
Speaker 9: have a very strong, direct and redline in anything to
Speaker 9: do about anti Semitism. I was very vocal and verbal
Speaker 9: about it before. It's on a personal level for me
Speaker 9: to make sure that the Jewish communities feel safe again
Speaker 9: becomes again, you know, that Australia becomes again a safe
Speaker 9: haven for all community, it doesn't matter, including the Jewish community.
Speaker 9: I would never personally imagine Australia to reach to that point,
Speaker 9: and so for me, I was very outspoken about it
Speaker 9: in the past as well, and it's a personal matter
Speaker 9: for me to make sure Jewish community in Australia is safe.
Speaker 9: Is unbearable of what they're going through now. So I'm
Speaker 9: putting this aside and everything is to do with the
Speaker 9: elections or internal issues. You know, this is something that
Speaker 9: we do not interfere in data.
Speaker 2: And you know what if alban Asi and Pettywong do
Speaker 2: get back in. I tell you a lot of Jewish
Speaker 2: Australians have told me that they would be looking to
Speaker 2: move to Israel. So you have an influx of Jewish
Speaker 2: Australians right. Appreciate your time, Sharry.
Speaker 9: I think that all around the world, you know, because
Speaker 9: of that rise of antisemitism, sometimes with the lack dealing
Speaker 9: with antisemitism, we have seen a massive rise from many
Speaker 9: countries of people who are coming into Israel Jewish communities
Speaker 9: who decided to leave home and actually come here to
Speaker 9: Israel to make sure that they're safe and they can
Speaker 9: be who they are safely and freely without any kind
Speaker 9: of fear to violence or to specific targeting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible that the population in Israel has actually
Speaker 2: increased year on year since October seven, during a time
Speaker 2: of war. Amazing. All right, Scharanna, appreciate your time. Thank
Speaker 2: you still to come. Why is the Prime Minister wasting
Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars funding gen Z influencers travel to Canberra? Jenna
Speaker 2: Clark will be here to discuss. Plus schools go woke,
Speaker 2: One school accused of canceling Easter, another slammed for an.
Speaker 1: Opt out of ANZAC day call that's coming up next,
Speaker 1: welcome back.
Speaker 2: Well, they've been countless cringe inducing moments from alban Easy
Speaker 2: that can only be characterized as pathetic attempts to try
Speaker 2: and be cool and win the youth vote, like this one.
Speaker 4: I Ah Delulu with nice Salulu, mister Smaker.
Speaker 2: It turns out two podcast hosts challenged the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: to incorporate that apparently gen Z phrase into the speech.
Speaker 7: I dated you, I could be.
Speaker 1: Budget late next week.
Speaker 2: ALBINIZI is clearly trying to get down with the kids
Speaker 2: and win their vote. I mean, who could forget dj
Speaker 2: Albow Maybe is trying to reclaim his own long lost youth. Well,
Speaker 2: let's bring it now. Jenna Clark, Associate editor of The Australian. Jenna,
Speaker 2: good to see you again. You've written about this trend
Speaker 2: of how the Prime Minister's trying to capture the young
Speaker 2: vote by being highly embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has been.
Speaker 12: Pretty cringed, especially to those that are losing a collagen
Speaker 12: at a rate of knots, because these young twenty somethings
Speaker 12: have severely, severely way more cooler than I am.
Speaker 1: But I do love the fact that in that.
Speaker 12: Clip when he was talking to those influences he's he
Speaker 12: basically tried to reframe the.
Speaker 1: Sululu with no Delulu with no Sululu.
Speaker 12: But in the context of Peter Dutton and the nuclear
Speaker 12: policy and the look on the girl's faces, they had
Speaker 12: absolutely no idea what.
Speaker 1: He was talking about.
Speaker 12: So the disconnect between the political class and the influencer
Speaker 12: class is very, very vast.
Speaker 1: But this is really interesting because sorry, no go for
Speaker 1: a janet.
Speaker 12: It is really interesting because he's been on this social
Speaker 12: media shadow play for a good part of about a
Speaker 12: year now, because he did appear on Abby Chatfield's podcast
Speaker 12: called It's a Lot, and he spoke for about an
Speaker 12: hour and a half about everything from Medicare, medi Scare,
Speaker 12: everything against the Coalition, pumping up what he seems to
Speaker 12: have achieved in office without really being challenged on anything.
Speaker 12: And interestingly, Peter dunn't declined to appear on that podcast,
Speaker 12: which a lot of people are saying it was because
Speaker 12: you know, Abbey is a progressive woman, which is actually incorrect,
Speaker 12: because sources told me that it's because she has a
Speaker 12: very strong anti Zionism streak is why he declined.
Speaker 2: And I was personally so angry that alban Easy went
Speaker 2: on that podcast because you know, you remember she said
Speaker 2: she wasn't going to have any Zionists on her podcast,
Speaker 2: as just being Jews and other people who support Israel.
Speaker 1: But let's not get into that path.
Speaker 2: I mean the Prime Minister, though, I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot of anger over the fact that he actually paid
Speaker 2: for these influences and there were quite a few of
Speaker 2: them to travel to Canberra to cover the budget, and
Speaker 2: a lot of ministers gave quite significant amounts of their
Speaker 2: one on one time to these influencers.
Speaker 1: You know, why should tax payers be paying for this? Yeah?
Speaker 12: No, they weren't paid for content, but they were paid
Speaker 12: for their travel and accommodation, which is basically.
Speaker 1: The same as paying them.
Speaker 12: But it is interesting that those key ministers, being Jim Chalmers,
Speaker 12: Katie Gallaher and even Tanya plibask gave an exorbitant amount
Speaker 12: of time to these online thought givers and opinion opinion makers.
Speaker 12: And interestingly, as we saw in Newspoll which was published
Speaker 12: on Monday in The Australian, I think it's worked because
Speaker 12: you look at the breakdown in those tables where the
Speaker 12: question was asked about the budget doctor Chalmers's budget saying
Speaker 12: do you think that you will be better off within
Speaker 12: the next twelve months, The eighteen to twenty four year
Speaker 12: old cohort overwhelmingly said yes they would be, and only
Speaker 12: ten percent of older Australians said that they would be
Speaker 12: worse off. So the proof will be in the putting
Speaker 12: on May three. But if the polls at the polls
Speaker 12: taking place at this point in time, or any indicator,
Speaker 12: it looks like it might have paid off all the
Speaker 12: Australian taxpayers have paid off for the Labor Party.
Speaker 2: Well, to me, I don't know if Delulu stands for delusional,
Speaker 2: but it should and they're all delulu.
Speaker 1: But general, I want to talk about these.
Speaker 2: Schools that have gone delulu as well. They've gone well
Speaker 2: and truly won't An email went out to parents today
Speaker 2: at Sherwood Ridge Primary School where the principal said that
Speaker 2: now the school expects that all students will attend the
Speaker 2: ans Ac Day service.
Speaker 1: This is a big backflip.
Speaker 2: Initially they said there was an opt out of the service,
Speaker 2: and then on t Gibi this morning, Ben Foden revealed
Speaker 2: that another school is not having a Kindie to Year
Speaker 2: two to Hat parade. Instead they're calling it the Annual
Speaker 2: Hat Parade. The word Easter gone. I mean, Jenney, this
Speaker 2: is so it's beyond the pale to not celebrate Easter
Speaker 2: and to not recognize an Zac Day. They've now backflipped
Speaker 2: on it, but this was their instincts and who knows
Speaker 2: what other schools are doing.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's absolutely disgusting And what really gets me is
Speaker 12: that I hope that every single journo that fronts up
Speaker 12: to the government's election spokesperson being Jason Clair tomorrow and
Speaker 12: for the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: He's always banging on.
Speaker 12: About how we have to have a revolution in our
Speaker 12: schools and it doesn't matter about what your postcode or
Speaker 12: what you grow up with, what you need to get
Speaker 12: a great education. Talk about the fundamental failings in our
Speaker 12: education system. Our kids cannot even read, write or count,
Speaker 12: and then this type of crap is being forced down
Speaker 12: their throats. It is look, I don't mean to sound
Speaker 12: like some sort of anchie, but it is completely UnAustralian.
Speaker 12: It makes my blood boil. Ann's a Day is one
Speaker 12: of the most sacred days on our calendar as a country.
Speaker 12: And the fact that kids were potentially being given the
Speaker 12: option to opt out, I would love to know what
Speaker 12: some of the excuses would be, because I would be
Speaker 12: I would be the first with an Australian flag to say, kid,
Speaker 12: you are celebrating and marking you don't celebrate as a day.
Speaker 1: Obviously you might commemorate Zact Day.
Speaker 12: Yes, because yes, you mark An's ac Day because it
Speaker 12: is sacred, sacred day in our country.
Speaker 2: Indeed, well said Jenna Clarke, thank you for your time
Speaker 2: coming up after the break the Democrat who spoke against
Speaker 2: Trump for twenty five hours. How's that for Trump arrangement syndrome? Plus,
Speaker 2: why is Kamala Harris heading to Australia And what can
Speaker 2: we expect from the Liberation Day tariffs tomorrow?
Speaker 1: That's with Koshergada after this quick break, welcome back.
Speaker 2: Let's bring in our Sky News contributor Koshagada. Kosher, great
Speaker 2: to see you again. Look, Trump is set to announce
Speaker 2: the Liberation Day tariffs. What are there any chances? What
Speaker 2: is the chances that he gives Australia an exemption?
Speaker 1: Feels pretty slim to none.
Speaker 13: I would say, Shari, anything is always possible with Trump,
Speaker 13: but he is really steadfast in the principle and the
Speaker 13: policy that he is going after. Though controversial, it may be,
Speaker 13: tariffs at the scale have not been tried in really
Speaker 13: to this measure in the last century. It certainly people
Speaker 13: are divided about it on both sides of the political aisle,
Speaker 13: but he very strongly believes it, and I think in
Speaker 13: the scheme of that big picture carveouts are not necessarily likely,
Speaker 13: though maybe given that Australia does run a trade sory plus,
Speaker 13: there might be something in there.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't hold our breath, Kosha.
Speaker 2: I think it's so interesting that we're seeing all these
Speaker 2: polls saying that Australians are against trumpets entered the election campaign,
Speaker 2: and yet in the US even CNN polls say that
Speaker 2: the president's popularity has never been higher.
Speaker 13: He indeed is very, very popular. And you know, we've
Speaker 13: been talking about this comeback story in general. I think
Speaker 13: that's what undergirds his entire political career, with where he
Speaker 13: came from after twenty twenty to now. We obviously know
Speaker 13: how he did in the election, winning the popular vote
Speaker 13: first time in forty years. That's happened all seven swing
Speaker 13: states and all the rest of it, and he's just
Speaker 13: so much more organized at affecting his agenda. There have
Speaker 13: been some snaffoos with the signal thing and other things,
Speaker 13: but for the most part, it's been a pretty flawless
Speaker 13: sixty eight days I think by now, and that is
Speaker 13: showing through in the polls. It will not last forever.
Speaker 13: He's certainly sort of in that honeymoon period for now,
Speaker 13: but it does show that he just is really the
Speaker 13: man of the moment right now in the US, and
Speaker 13: by and large people do agree with his policy agenda.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fascinating, just that disconnecting how he's perceived. Look,
Speaker 2: this Democrat, Cory Booka, set an insane record speaking an
Speaker 2: anti Trump tirade for twenty five hours.
Speaker 1: He was on his fate.
Speaker 2: He said he'd remained there for as long as he
Speaker 2: was physically able to. Let's have a quick look.
Speaker 8: When is it going to be enough?
Speaker 5: My voice is inadequate today, are inadequate to stop.
Speaker 8: What they're trying to do.
Speaker 7: But we the people are powerful, We are strong.
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you a question.
Speaker 6: Do you know you have just broken the record? Do
Speaker 6: you know how proud this caucus is of you?
Speaker 4: Do you know how proud America.
Speaker 8: Is of you? My friend, Madam President I yield the floor.
Speaker 2: I mean, he thinks he should get some award for
Speaker 2: bagging the president for a record breaking time.
Speaker 1: It's seriously deranged.
Speaker 13: Yes, So you know he was invoking this mechanism in
Speaker 13: the US Senate, the filibuster. It wasn't technically a filibuster,
Speaker 13: but basically that the principle behind it is it allows
Speaker 13: minority representation, people that are not in the majority right now,
Speaker 13: like the Democrats, to air their grievances and dissenting opinions
Speaker 13: on an issue. However, it has morphed into I think,
Speaker 13: much more of a personal political platform for a lot
Speaker 13: of people. He broke the record. The previous record was
Speaker 13: held by a senator in nineteen fifty seven, twenty four
Speaker 13: hours and five minutes. He broke that, and maybe that's
Speaker 13: what he's after, where he will now forever go down
Speaker 13: into history books as the person who did that and
Speaker 13: sort of got his moment and fame. We're all talking
Speaker 13: about it, and probably that was behind it, I think,
Speaker 13: more so than expressing a dissenting opinion to some policy agenda.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, we're here, Kamala Harris is coming to Australia.
Speaker 1: Kasha. What's she doing here?
Speaker 13: So interesting because she has really been laying low after
Speaker 13: her defeat in the election, but there's been some rumblings
Speaker 13: where she signed with CAIA, the pre eminent talent agency
Speaker 13: in the world, and that usually signals that she's gearing
Speaker 13: up to go on the speaking tour. And often these
Speaker 13: people who are former presidents or a vice presidents, even
Speaker 13: if they lost, even if they weren't that successful politically,
Speaker 13: can command big fees. So it looks like one of
Speaker 13: her coming out things.
Speaker 1: Is going to be this real estate.
Speaker 13: Conference and the Gold Coast, and it's been known to
Speaker 13: bring in big names, international names in the past, so
Speaker 13: they're probably paying a pretty penny for her, and she's
Speaker 13: going to come here and talk real estate, which will
Speaker 13: be interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean pretty penny.
Speaker 2: She'd probably be charging you think, somewhere between half a
Speaker 2: million and a million. I mean, they can earn a
Speaker 2: lot of money on these speaking circuits. But kosher who
Speaker 2: wants to go see her?
Speaker 13: That's the thing. I think there's gonna be lots of
Speaker 13: means of her, you know, talking the way she does
Speaker 13: about issues rather simplistically or reductively.
Speaker 1: And I think you're right.
Speaker 13: Her fee is going to be anywhere from three to
Speaker 13: four hundred thousand US dollars, So it's maybe a draw
Speaker 13: card the novelty factor, if nothing else. And I think
Speaker 13: it's going to make a lot of international news for
Speaker 13: better or for worse.
Speaker 2: No indeed, All right, Kosha Dada, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for joining us, and of course we'll bring you the
Speaker 2: news tomorrow night. What we know about the Liberation Day tariffs. Well,
Speaker 2: that's all we've got time for today. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for your company, I'll see you tomorrow at eight,
Speaker 2: and right now the king of television for Mara