WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 5 February

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 2>watching Welcome to the Man Cave. We have got all stars tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>It is all killer, no filler.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have my say about what happened with Trump today.

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<v Speaker 2>It won't be very long because it doesn't require anything

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<v Speaker 2>longer than that. I'll explain why in a second. As

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<v Speaker 2>I said Bromwin Bishop, the carry out a champ, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Hill the brand here. It'll be a fascinating chat. How's

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<v Speaker 2>Joe going to tell us? How Elbow's going to win?

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<v Speaker 2>And how willin put him back in his corner? And

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<v Speaker 2>the wonderful Meghan Kelly about all things to do in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, including some of the big changes that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe don't make the news here in Australia but are

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<v Speaker 2>really important to talk about now. As always most important

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<v Speaker 2>country in the world, ours, let's talk about it. The

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<v Speaker 2>cleanup operation begins now in Queensland after the floods now

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<v Speaker 2>not all over, not everyone out of the woods yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but a little respite with things, meaning that the Premier

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<v Speaker 2>was in Ingham today. Ingham, of course, the town that

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<v Speaker 2>is between Keynes of the north Townsville in the south.

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<v Speaker 2>All of it right up into the north of our car.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is what David Crucifoley had to say while inspecting

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<v Speaker 2>what mother nature has brought over the past few days.

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<v Speaker 2>And next focus is the power. We've got to get

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<v Speaker 2>permanent power.

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<v Speaker 3>We've flown workers Inviyrair to try and get them in

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me proud to be a Queenslander.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is special.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, to think that a town has rallied

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<v Speaker 3>the way that it has and a state has rallied

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<v Speaker 3>around that town, that everything you need to know about

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<v Speaker 3>this state.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, obviously our reporters have been all over this, and

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<v Speaker 2>particularly Lauren who has been in the area doing her reporting.

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<v Speaker 2>They were actually flown in by a chopper to part

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<v Speaker 2>of the area today. Now all of our team have

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<v Speaker 2>today a local legend, and I say legend because he

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<v Speaker 2>went out of his way to help our crew and

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<v Speaker 2>I know how much of Fanny he is, of the

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<v Speaker 2>Channel and of this show in particular, so I want

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<v Speaker 2>to give a massive shout out to Joey. Joey runs

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<v Speaker 2>a excavations company which is a JdE Flow or JdE

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<v Speaker 2>flow of excavations. But more importantly he was there helping

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<v Speaker 2>our crew tell the story of his mates in that city.

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<v Speaker 2>So to Joey, to his beautiful daughter and everyone else

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<v Speaker 2>who is very kind when our reporters, our camera crews

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<v Speaker 2>go out into real Australia, thank you so much. You

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<v Speaker 2>help tell the stories better than any reporter can. Lauren

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<v Speaker 2>and her team thank you, and certainly I thank you

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<v Speaker 2>and Joey. I look forward to one day finding a

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<v Speaker 2>way to meet you. I'll certainly give you a call

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<v Speaker 2>to morrow to say thank you for everything you did

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<v Speaker 2>for our team today. Strength and love to everyone who

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<v Speaker 2>was involved in what has been taking place in our

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<v Speaker 2>north Now, as we know, the Prime Minister is a

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<v Speaker 2>handsome little boy when it comes to his very cozy

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with the Chinese Communist Party leader Xi Jinping. And

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<v Speaker 2>we know why because there's votes in it. You see,

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<v Speaker 2>if you stand up to China, the message goes back

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<v Speaker 2>and people who might be getting the information through we

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<v Speaker 2>chat or something else, will they change their vote. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>communities who voted in twenty nineteen, twenty sixteen, twenty and

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen twenty ten liberal all decided in one election, all

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time for one particular reason.

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<v Speaker 1>To change their vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, as you can see, good analysis here which was

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<v Speaker 2>done in the Financial Review. It shows that Chisholm, which

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<v Speaker 2>was won by labor being along read won by labor.

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<v Speaker 2>Also Morton, which was held onto by labor banks which

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<v Speaker 2>also I think, well I didn't change, but very close

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<v Speaker 2>at the election. All of that affected by a significant

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<v Speaker 2>amount of people who speak Mandarin and home and they're

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<v Speaker 2>changing their vote now, as you know, standing up to China,

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<v Speaker 2>which results in will ban this and will punish you that,

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<v Speaker 2>and will sort of put metaphorically your head on the

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<v Speaker 2>spike and we'll make sure that we wave it around

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<v Speaker 2>the village.

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<v Speaker 1>So every other middle power.

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<v Speaker 2>Country knows not to mess with China because they can

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<v Speaker 2>cut you off financially, because we as a nation have

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<v Speaker 2>all been stupid enough to slowly but surely sell this

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<v Speaker 2>bit off, that bit off, sell this for cheaper, import here,

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<v Speaker 2>import there, let them make the medicines. You know the story.

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<v Speaker 2>And even after a global pandemic that literally killed millions

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<v Speaker 2>of people, that definitely got worse in China, and by

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<v Speaker 2>all common sense, started in a lab in China. The

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<v Speaker 2>consequences nothing, nothing to see here, because you see, China,

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<v Speaker 2>apart from its financial power, has found a way to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the hearts and minds of millions of people

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<v Speaker 2>around the world via the social media app TikTok, a

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese surveillance app, so much so that the American government

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<v Speaker 2>has said that they would shut it down unless the

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<v Speaker 2>American version of it is sold off because their servers

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<v Speaker 2>are in China. Of course, they serve nothing but intellectual

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<v Speaker 2>garbage to the Western world, while the kids having their

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<v Speaker 2>version of it in China. It's all about being the

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<v Speaker 2>best student you possibly can. So the Australian government decided

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<v Speaker 2>to ban TikTok. You can't use it in Parliament House,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't use it on an MP's computer. Why, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the national security stuff. But because all the kids are

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<v Speaker 2>on it and they don't care what's happening to their data,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't care who's got access to their microphone,

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<v Speaker 2>their keystrokes or their camera, because isn't thet aren't the

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<v Speaker 2>cat videos fund?

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus? Isn't all those dancing videos great?

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<v Speaker 2>And they've got the creators around their little finger, pretending

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<v Speaker 2>that everyone on every subject is getting billions of hits,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they know on every other social media platform

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<v Speaker 2>they've barely being able to make it out of the

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<v Speaker 2>tens of thousands. This particular device is dangerous. It is popular,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why politicians will not ban it. So it

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<v Speaker 2>has national security implications and it can't be used officially

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<v Speaker 2>by the government. But the people who make up the government,

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<v Speaker 2>they use the device to say garbage like this.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not April Fool's Day. You couldn't make this up.

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<v Speaker 4>Peter Dutton's latest uncosted policy is to make Australian taxpayers,

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<v Speaker 4>all of them, you pay for businesses, long lunches and

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<v Speaker 4>golf trips. Yeah, you heard that correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I haven't spent much time pushing back on that rubbish,

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<v Speaker 2>but everyone who actually understands this policy and lives in

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<v Speaker 2>the real world knows what it's really about. You See,

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<v Speaker 2>big businesses are able when they entertain people to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to write off that entertainment right, meaning the taxpayer

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<v Speaker 2>pays for it. Well, of course tax bill doesn't pay

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<v Speaker 2>for anything. It just means they're able to reduce the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of money that they have to pay overall in tax.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea that Peter Dunton has is that if you

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<v Speaker 2>are in small business and you would like to have

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<v Speaker 2>a meeting with someone who is one of your suppliers

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<v Speaker 2>or somebody who helps you out. You would be able

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<v Speaker 2>to potentially write off, say palm me at the pub

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<v Speaker 2>off your tax. That's it. But this garbage that anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do that another night. But I'm not just stry

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<v Speaker 2>from the main point here, back to TikTok, back to China,

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<v Speaker 2>back to the double standard. And even though the app

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<v Speaker 2>is banned from use by a phone that an MP owns,

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<v Speaker 2>they are still posting to the app from inside Parliament House.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a Cabinet minister doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>What is going on with housing in Australia. I'm Clara

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<v Speaker 3>O'Neil and I'm Australia's new Housing and Homelessness Minister. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been in this job now for about two weeks and

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<v Speaker 3>I've spent much of that time talking to people around

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<v Speaker 3>the country who are badly affected by a housing crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, you know, a ban is a ban, not really,

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<v Speaker 2>because of course, the idea that the Wi Fi network,

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<v Speaker 2>police mobile phone reception inside that building garbage. So someone's

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<v Speaker 2>connected to something and if they've got TikTok, then there's

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<v Speaker 2>a world of trouble, okay, which brings us to deep seek. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>deep seek is the Chinese knockoff version of what has

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<v Speaker 2>already been created by other companies, chiefly America about artificial intelligence. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>for those who have not jumped onto Chat, GPT or

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<v Speaker 2>all of the other things that are around, we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>downloaded the latest version of something to your Apple software.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe all of this doesn't quite mean much to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of something that is somewhere between Google, where you

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<v Speaker 2>ask it for information and it goes back and collects

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<v Speaker 2>some of it for you or writes it up for

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<v Speaker 2>you in a little report. And also Facebook where you

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<v Speaker 2>upload the images and then Facebook is allowed to sell

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<v Speaker 2>the images to advertisers. They're able to sell your direct messages.

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<v Speaker 2>None of that's private, by the way, just so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's free on the Internet, you're the customer. But

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<v Speaker 2>unlike the American situation where it is the private companies

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<v Speaker 2>that have the information, the Chinese companies, well, the Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>government has full access to everything that the data is providing.

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<v Speaker 2>So it means they're able to know an awful lot

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<v Speaker 2>about you in the fine print that nobody reads when

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<v Speaker 2>you download these apps. Again, that every single keystroke that

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<v Speaker 2>you make on your mobile phone or your computer, that

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<v Speaker 2>has this downloaded to it, even if they are not

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<v Speaker 2>associated with the app at the time you are using it,

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<v Speaker 2>So say an email or a text or anything you

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<v Speaker 2>do on these devices is recorded by things like like

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<v Speaker 2>deep Seek, like TikTok, and it is available to the

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese government. If you're call with that, If you think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good trade off for dancing videos, good luck

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<v Speaker 2>to you. I don't. And today our federal government turned

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<v Speaker 2>around and said that they agree as well, because the

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<v Speaker 2>announcement was made today that deep Seek is now banned

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<v Speaker 2>from just like TikTok, all of the government computers in

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<v Speaker 2>all of Australia, the Defense Force, the tax offers, the

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<v Speaker 2>Federal Police, an MP's office in your suburb, all the

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<v Speaker 2>way through to everything in Parliament House. In part this

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<v Speaker 2>is why. And guess what.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all the stuff I've just told you.

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<v Speaker 2>The media's version.

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<v Speaker 5>The Chinese artificial intelligence app deep Seek has been banned

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<v Speaker 5>from Australian government devices over national security fears.

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<v Speaker 6>Labour has banned the Chinese AI tool deep Seek from

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<v Speaker 6>government devices.

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<v Speaker 5>Over fears the chat GPT competitor poses a national security risk.

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<v Speaker 7>Decision to ban the Chinese owned app was made on

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<v Speaker 7>national security grounds after it was deemed to pose an

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<v Speaker 7>unacceptable risk to Australian government technology.

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<v Speaker 2>So these technologies are insidious. They find ways to get

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<v Speaker 2>deep into your systems when you don't really know just

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<v Speaker 2>how deep they are going and where the information is

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<v Speaker 2>going back. Now, remember, if you have one of these,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a camera that can look at you or

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<v Speaker 2>where you are at any time. It's got a microphone

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<v Speaker 2>that you know is listening to you. Because isn't it

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<v Speaker 2>amazing how often the ads change or your algorithm changes

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<v Speaker 2>based off the thing that you randomly mentioned to somebody

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<v Speaker 2>at a barbecue fifteen minutes earlier. You want to hand

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<v Speaker 2>that full surveillance power over to the Chinese government in

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<v Speaker 2>exchange for dancing videos, Well, good luck to you. But

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<v Speaker 2>both of these technologies of course should be banned. But

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<v Speaker 2>just like any major company that gets too big, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be ruled too big to take on. So

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<v Speaker 2>we have a scenario where the federal government knows what

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<v Speaker 2>the dangers are so much so that the federal government

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<v Speaker 2>will not allow any access to these devices on anything

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<v Speaker 2>that could potentially threaten the federal government. But they're completely

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<v Speaker 2>cool with the citizens of Australia being exposed to the

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<v Speaker 2>same security dangers that are deemed too significant and therefore

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<v Speaker 2>are banned for the Australian government. We would not cop

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<v Speaker 2>this in any other area. If the federal government knew

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<v Speaker 2>that there was asbestos in the offices of a federal

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<v Speaker 2>government department, but they didn't tell the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>community that they got rid of all of the asbestos.

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<v Speaker 2>But we won't tell you about the asbestos at your house.

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<v Speaker 2>People would freak out. But because it's too popular, you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't possibly shut it down because it will displease a

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<v Speaker 2>government that has got its hooks into too many people

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<v Speaker 2>in business, to many people in academia, because it has

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<v Speaker 2>an ability to distort the news information source of key

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<v Speaker 2>voters in key electorates. They'll just let you lick the asbestos.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not a game. But if the federal government

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<v Speaker 2>is freaked out about it so much so that it's banned,

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<v Speaker 2>why not banned for everyone. We have the capacity in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia to turn around and say that certain URLs are

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<v Speaker 2>just not available now. As a person who has spoken

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<v Speaker 2>quite seriously about censoring the Internet before, I'm very aware

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<v Speaker 2>of the fine line here. But if the back end

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<v Speaker 2>of a website that is made somewhere else is about

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<v Speaker 2>hoovering up your data and your information to a potential

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<v Speaker 2>adversarial power. You wouldn't let it happen, right, So why

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<v Speaker 2>are they letting it happen apart from the Chinese sending

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<v Speaker 2>the message that we always knew that they would stand

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<v Speaker 2>up to us and will change a government. So the

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<v Speaker 2>people who claim to be in it for you and I,

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<v Speaker 2>of course guess what are not in it for you

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<v Speaker 2>and I. They're in it for covering their own backside.

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<v Speaker 2>They're willing to do so with their own data, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't care about yours. And even when they ban

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<v Speaker 2>it from every computer in Parliament House, they still use

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<v Speaker 2>the Chinese software to upload their cute little videos, hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that people of a certain age will somehow connect with

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<v Speaker 2>them because they're on the top and everyone else is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Which brings me to another little thing that I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to keep an eye on here, which is with a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks to go of parliament. Now, it all

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<v Speaker 2>depends on when the election is called. But Parliament is

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<v Speaker 2>this week, Parliament is next week, then there's a break,

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<v Speaker 2>then there's another week of Parliament and then presumably we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting pretty close to when they're going to call an election. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian Federal Government decided to make a rather interesting announcement.

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<v Speaker 2>It follows their announcement that they made a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, which was that they were going to find

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<v Speaker 2>social media companies for misinformation. Now, remember that legislation was

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<v Speaker 2>so toxic, so terrible, that I made it very clear

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<v Speaker 2>that people wouldn't copy it, and we ended up on

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<v Speaker 2>the right side of history because they decided to abandon it.

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<v Speaker 2>But guess what, everything old is new again? With the

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<v Speaker 2>clock now ticking on the final two weeks of parliament,

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<v Speaker 2>is there a way that vast swathes of what they

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<v Speaker 2>plan is about to come back, but under another form? Now,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, just like I'm suggest about deep Seek, much

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<v Speaker 2>of the truly offensive material that apparently they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be going after and apparently finding people for if it

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<v Speaker 2>is actually available on the Internet, is garbage that I

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<v Speaker 2>would want blocked out the borders, no question. But today,

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<v Speaker 2>after a review or review of course that they picked

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<v Speaker 2>knowing what the outcome would be, brand new laws are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be put in place to go after the

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<v Speaker 2>very same companies that they wanted to go after for misinformation,

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<v Speaker 2>but this time they claim they want to go after

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<v Speaker 2>it for not just things like online hate, but also

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of things to do with online abuse and sexual assault.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I hope all of that, all of that gets banned,

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<v Speaker 2>no question. But watch this space. It will be fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>to see that. When the actual bill is presented, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to compare letter by letter, line by line, and

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<v Speaker 2>sentence by sentence, and let's see just how many of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that they wanted to introduced but they decided

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<v Speaker 2>not to, they'll be able to introduce via a backdoor,

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<v Speaker 2>where of course the headline will be that if the

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<v Speaker 2>opposition does not vote for this, then somehow they are

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<v Speaker 2>voting in favor of child pornography. Watch this space. I

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<v Speaker 2>certainly know that I am to Virgin Australia. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>say our mates because I enjoy flying with them. I've

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<v Speaker 2>never had anything but a wonderful experience with them. They're

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<v Speaker 2>always very kind to me, and I have never hidden that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the idea of the startup, the person who

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<v Speaker 2>is challenging the company that is the dominant one, and

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<v Speaker 2>one that of course we all know at times a

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<v Speaker 2>little too close to government.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they currently have a.

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<v Speaker 2>CEO who is on their way out, and there is

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<v Speaker 2>some speculation about whom the next CEO will be. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know Paul Jones from a bar of soap,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know if he's the best choice of

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<v Speaker 2>the worst choice. I've got no idea, but I am

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<v Speaker 2>fascinated that the union movement is now trying to throw

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<v Speaker 2>its weight around, saying that it should have a veto

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<v Speaker 2>power over whether Qatar Airlines will be able to partner

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<v Speaker 2>up with Virgin Australia if the wrong CEO is put

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<v Speaker 2>in place. Now, again, workers have every right to have

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<v Speaker 2>an opinion about their boss, but this would be rather

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<v Speaker 2>unique and weird scenario if the union is going to

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<v Speaker 2>basically demand that the person who may well end up

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<v Speaker 2>being the CEO is not going to be the CEO

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't like the potential CEO. The powerful Transport

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<v Speaker 2>Workers Union says it will withdraw support for Virgin Australia's

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<v Speaker 2>plans to use Qatar Airways planes and its cruz if

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<v Speaker 2>the private equity controlled airline appoints the former Quantus executive

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Jones as a chief executive. But nothing surprising there

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<v Speaker 2>or why are you talking about it on the telly

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<v Speaker 2>Because unbelievably a federal government minister is trying to tell

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<v Speaker 2>a publicly listed company who they should or should not

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<v Speaker 2>choose to be the CEO of the company, and supposedly

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<v Speaker 2>free market and open country, this is not okay, Murray,

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<v Speaker 2>what is doing the bidding of the unions? This, in

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<v Speaker 2>part is what he had to say, firing a shot. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Remember he represents a government that has the capacity to

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<v Speaker 2>deny Virgin access to some of the basic things that

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<v Speaker 2>are their business. It has the capacity to not allow

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<v Speaker 2>them to grow their business by refusing to let them

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<v Speaker 2>partner up with overseas airlines, and they of course are

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<v Speaker 2>the chief regulator of the industry. For somebody who sits

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<v Speaker 2>around the cabinet table to be offering a public threat

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<v Speaker 2>to a company about whether he chooses the CEO of

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<v Speaker 2>their choosing or not is a ligne too far from me.

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<v Speaker 2>Think I'm making it up. Here's his own words.

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<v Speaker 8>I think most Australians would like to see Virgin choose

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<v Speaker 8>a CEO that has a demonstrated record of putting their

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<v Speaker 8>workers and the public first. It took the transport workers Union,

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<v Speaker 8>with the support of the then Albanezy Opposition, to stand

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<v Speaker 8>up to Quantas about the way it illegally sacked its

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<v Speaker 8>workforce during the pandemic and did a range of other

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<v Speaker 8>things to hurt its workforce. So I would certainly hope

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<v Speaker 8>and expect that virgin would think about that when it

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<v Speaker 8>comes to its choice of CEO.

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<v Speaker 2>A federal government minister. Part of the team that regulates

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<v Speaker 2>an industry is standing with the union that is threatening

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<v Speaker 2>the private company about whom they choose to make its leader.

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<v Speaker 2>This is extraordinary. And what about that nice little one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, Quantas did illegally sack its workers during a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the COVID pandemic. The High Court or sorry courts,

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<v Speaker 2>of course turned around and backed in the unions and

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<v Speaker 2>corners had to pay significant penalties as they should have.

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<v Speaker 2>But nice try, Murray wad to pretend that the lo

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<v Speaker 2>part is always on the side of the worker and

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<v Speaker 2>always standing up to Quantas. You do know that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>able to show you the image of upgrade Elbow because

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<v Speaker 2>of the Australian public's understanding of his closeness to the

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<v Speaker 2>bloke who used.

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<v Speaker 1>To run the airline when he.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course got the upgrades for private travel, let alone

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<v Speaker 2>the oh so cozy deals where we'll keep some of

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<v Speaker 2>the foreign players out, and you just miraculously back in

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<v Speaker 2>the political campaigns that we do nothing, see nothing at all.

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<v Speaker 2>As for question Time today and the usual nonsense which

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<v Speaker 2>is playing out where the government is trying to gaslight

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian people that despite the fact that everything is

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<v Speaker 2>worse under this government, apparently everything is.

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<v Speaker 8>Everything is.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I mentioned last night a survey I think I

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<v Speaker 2>said finder, it's not it's done by compare the market,

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<v Speaker 2>which is that a very significant number of Australians have

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<v Speaker 2>just one hundred bucks in the bank. These are the

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<v Speaker 2>people who aren't just paycheck to paycheck to paycheck, but

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<v Speaker 2>they run out of money probably the best part of

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks into the month of money that they get

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<v Speaker 2>on the fifteenth of the month. One in five people. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>a little more detail on the same survey, because I

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<v Speaker 2>only had the headline for you last night, are worrying.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen point seven percent of Australian survey reported at having

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<v Speaker 2>just one hundred dollars or less to their name. With

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<v Speaker 2>high grocery prices, rising insurance premiums, increased energy costs pushing

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<v Speaker 2>their savings to the brink. Four in five Australians, or

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<v Speaker 2>seventy nine point two say that the cost of living

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<v Speaker 2>is impacted on their ability to save money over the

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<v Speaker 2>past twelve months. So the Prime Minister can try to

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<v Speaker 2>say everything will be so to Peter Darton, they can

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<v Speaker 2>try to say that somehow there are dark days ahead. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>anyone who has lived in the real world for the

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<v Speaker 2>past three years one outside of the Federal Parliament where

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<v Speaker 2>every politician got a pay rise three of them in

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<v Speaker 2>the past three years, where more public servants have been

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<v Speaker 2>higher than ever before, and every public servant got a

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<v Speaker 2>pay rise that was hist in ten years. The reality

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<v Speaker 2>of Australia under Anthony Abnezi is worth repeating. The number

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<v Speaker 2>of homes that are in financial stress. Worth noting here

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<v Speaker 2>that almost thirty percent of homes are in mortgage stress,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning too big a portion of the money that they

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<v Speaker 2>have is going on paying off the house because of

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<v Speaker 2>the twelve interest rate rises, which in part have cost

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen thousand dollars extra in repayments per five hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars that you borrow, So if it's a million, it's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight thousand dollars plus fourteen plus fourteen every five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand after that. That's money you did not have

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<v Speaker 2>to pay before this bloke became the Prime minister. Twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one months of a per capita recession leads to the

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<v Speaker 2>worst living standards in Australias. It's nine fifty nine a

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<v Speaker 2>football stadium, A businesses have gone busts three million people

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<v Speaker 2>are this close to homelessness, or three point seven million

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<v Speaker 2>people don't have enough food to get through the week.

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<v Speaker 1>And throw a rental crisis on top of that.

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<v Speaker 2>The country is being increasing its population by the day

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<v Speaker 2>because it's good for the government, at an extra one

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<v Speaker 2>point three million people since they became the government. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>everything's awesome. We also got some data today from that

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<v Speaker 2>far right wing thing tank, the Australian Bureau of Statistics,

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<v Speaker 2>to help hammer home the point that I've been making

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<v Speaker 2>here every night for the past three years, watching things

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<v Speaker 2>get worse. There is a very significant number of people

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<v Speaker 2>who work more than one job. But there's also a

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<v Speaker 2>very significant number of people who are ready to work

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow if a job actually turned up. The barriers and

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<v Speaker 2>incentives to labor force participation was the report released today,

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<v Speaker 2>and a line in it says, of the one point

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<v Speaker 2>two million people who want a job, a million of them,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty nine percent of the one point two million people,

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<v Speaker 2>they could start within the first next four weeks. But

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<v Speaker 2>we keep importing people into the country to do these jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you import people when there is this one

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<v Speaker 2>point two million people who want to work, most of

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<v Speaker 2>which ninety percent of which can do so in the

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<v Speaker 2>next four weeks, and the rest of which could do

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<v Speaker 2>so a little bit later. In fact, to actually show

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<v Speaker 2>you as well, the number of Australians who have more

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<v Speaker 2>than one job. Prime Minister, when it was the Opposition leader,

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<v Speaker 2>used to la banging on about this statistic as an

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<v Speaker 2>example of something terrible in the Australian economy. Well, if

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<v Speaker 2>it was bad before he became the Prime minister, how

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<v Speaker 2>does he explain nine hundred and eighty six four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people who have to work more than one job to

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<v Speaker 2>make ends meet in a country that is growning as

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<v Speaker 2>a result of his leadership. Good luck making it about

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<v Speaker 2>Darton Powell. This election is about you. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>more popular ideas that Peter Dutton's put on the table

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of the Federal day is that he would like

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<v Speaker 2>to ban all foreign property investment in this country for

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<v Speaker 2>the first two years of his prime ministership. It is

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<v Speaker 2>so popular that seventy three percent of people in marginal

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<v Speaker 2>seats agree, sixty nine percent overall, fifty eight percent of

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<v Speaker 2>Green's voters, almost eighty percent of his own voters, and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty percent of Labor voters. That's all the dark Blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree with the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>And just in time. Daily Mail was talking to some

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<v Speaker 2>real estate agents this week and their claiming that there

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<v Speaker 2>has been an increase in the number of buyers coming

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<v Speaker 2>from China to put their hands up at an auction,

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<v Speaker 2>stopping Australians or your kids being able to buy a house.

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<v Speaker 2>It's up by that twenty percent. That's why the idea

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<v Speaker 2>is good, popular and the opposition should talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>More interesting story in the Telegraph today which was about

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<v Speaker 2>the number of empty jobs there are in the police force,

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<v Speaker 2>not just in one state, your state, but in fact

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<v Speaker 2>in the whole country. About seven thousand spots are available

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<v Speaker 2>and open inside inside the collective police forces of every state,

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<v Speaker 2>every territory. And there's a whole collection of ideas about

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<v Speaker 2>how they can improve this, including the Police Association in

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<v Speaker 2>some states saying payroll tax and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a few ideas about how you can improve

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<v Speaker 2>the number of people that want to put their hand

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<v Speaker 2>up to be the police force. Number One, governments that

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<v Speaker 2>actually support the police force by giving them the powers

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<v Speaker 2>and giving them the laws that people are not able

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<v Speaker 2>to find. Also clever ways of getting out of making

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<v Speaker 2>sure that a judiciary that constantly is giving the old

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<v Speaker 2>wet lettuce leaf treatment to the people who the police

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<v Speaker 2>actually are able to go find charge and bring before

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<v Speaker 2>a court. And third and most difficult for the government

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<v Speaker 2>is that I want a Royal commission into the effects

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<v Speaker 2>of trauma on people in our emergency services. I've told

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<v Speaker 2>to the story before about a young lady that I

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<v Speaker 2>met one night playing the Pokeys. We started chatting and

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<v Speaker 2>she was out of the paramedic service because of the

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<v Speaker 2>trauma of what she had seen. A couple of blokes

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<v Speaker 2>came and saw me who were former police officers in

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<v Speaker 2>South Australia when we were doing a show in Renmark

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<v Speaker 2>last year, saying that they too would like a Royal

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<v Speaker 2>commission into the lack of support for police once you

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<v Speaker 2>stop being a police officer. If we do not support

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<v Speaker 2>the men and women of this country who wish to

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<v Speaker 2>run towards danger each and every day, not just when

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<v Speaker 2>they are the officers, but after they are the officers.

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<v Speaker 2>Then why would anyone put their hand up to be

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<v Speaker 2>an officer in the first place. I'm pro cop. Humans

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<v Speaker 2>are not perfect, but I am pro COP. I pro

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<v Speaker 2>the institution, and I am pro the people that are

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<v Speaker 2>part of it. I am thankful for what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not entirely sure that many people who are officers

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<v Speaker 2>of the law in this country would feel as supported

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<v Speaker 2>by their government, and certainly not by their judiciary, and

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<v Speaker 2>increasingly not by some individuals out there who have been

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<v Speaker 2>brought up by parents who challenge all authority and have

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<v Speaker 2>ever since their kids were really little. You know, the

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 2>ones who go and complain about the teacher punishing little

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny because my little Johnny would never do anything wrong. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, what's the lesson they learn? There is no

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<v Speaker 2>authority that can't be ultimately overturned, and so frequently we

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<v Speaker 2>see that in our community. The emergency services deserve support.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see whether it actually happens. And just finally, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about Donald Trump, and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the events of today, and I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to be very brief because, as you know, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a meeting today between the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin and

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<v Speaker 2>Who and the President of the United States. And didn't

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<v Speaker 2>the world freak out about what Trump had to say today?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, clearly there is now it's an official foreign

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<v Speaker 2>policy of the United States, the illegal occupation of a

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<v Speaker 2>sovereign land. He's talking about going in and rebuilding Gaza.

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<v Speaker 5>He's talking about taking control of Gaza, but we still

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<v Speaker 5>have dozens of hostages in Gaza who have not been brought.

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<v Speaker 8>Home forcibly displaced two million Palestinians from the Gaza strip.

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<v Speaker 9>That is ethnic cleansing by another name.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to happen, and he knows it more

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<v Speaker 2>than a secure on Pulmary Live.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I had to say. It's thank you very

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<v Speaker 1>much for watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember see you going? Wait, you can't always send me

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<v Speaker 2>an email. Paulitzgoes dot com dot I you Joe Hildebrand

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<v Speaker 2>is here.

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<v Speaker 9>Hello, save me, Hello great man.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, very good to carry have a champions problem and

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<v Speaker 2>be shipping. No, she's He's sorry, Palace just the way

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<v Speaker 2>it is now. Before we get to other events that

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<v Speaker 2>have dominated the youth day. I don't pro and the

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<v Speaker 2>show based off what everyone else is talking about. I

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<v Speaker 2>like to focus on what matters the most. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>get to the attempt to gaslight the Australian people that

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister is involved in the Labor Party is

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<v Speaker 2>clearly trying to troll the coalition and its supporters that

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<v Speaker 2>everything will be worse under done. Help me out here, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are aware at all all of some of

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<v Speaker 2>the inner thinkings about this. Cos Samaras, who is of

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<v Speaker 2>course the bloken charge of Redbridge. We have him and

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<v Speaker 2>his team on Sunday nights with Michael Kroger. Anything we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do every week up until the election called

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>state of the Race, which is we're really getting deep,

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>like we're really, as I tortured last night for you,

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 2>we're counting the grains of sound on the beach, right,

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 2>that's the joy. Everyone else can to have the view

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 2>of the beach. We're going to get right in to

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening. His view was that this ad is not

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<v Speaker 2>actually about trying to convince people who are soft on labor.

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 2>It's actually about convincing Labour supporters to lock in behind

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<v Speaker 2>and once you lock your base in then you go

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<v Speaker 2>off to fight. But I just think anyone who's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of paying half attention and seeing that add somewhere, and

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 2>there's been a lot of talk of it in the

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<v Speaker 2>past week, I'm going to go worse under the other bloke.

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<v Speaker 1>It is worse under you, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, my preference is always for parties to run

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<v Speaker 5>positive campaigns, but negative campaigns, but negative campaign and Chris

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<v Speaker 5>Bins showed it could be done, just be sort of respectful.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think there will come a time where, because

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<v Speaker 5>people are so disillusioned with political institutions, everything will end

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<v Speaker 5>up being a pox on both your houses.

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<v Speaker 9>Every election will be And my name is Pollyanna. But

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<v Speaker 9>but again, this is where we are in a right.

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<v Speaker 6>We are nice, nice Labor Party people with their files.

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<v Speaker 10>I was speaking so one of he was just talking

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<v Speaker 10>about his dream, one of my this.

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<v Speaker 5>Is just my dream as a young girl from the

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<v Speaker 5>Swiss Alps. That obviously like someone who used to run

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<v Speaker 5>ads for the Coalition campaigns, right, this guy I spoke

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<v Speaker 5>to and he said, the number one. If I've got

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<v Speaker 5>two cans of soup and I want customer who's just

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<v Speaker 5>so in between the two to buy my can of soap.

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<v Speaker 5>There is one sure fire way to make that happen.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's not to say mike can of soup is better.

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<v Speaker 5>It's to say that the other can of soup has

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<v Speaker 5>rat poison. H Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now that doesn't cover

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<v Speaker 5>you in glory, but it gets the job done.

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<v Speaker 9>And clearly what Labor is saying.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get their logic here, but does anyone think

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<v Speaker 2>it actually moves the needle because literally to little two

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<v Speaker 2>text cuts did not change their polling. All right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one interest rate cut, which we all hope happens, is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to reverse the cumulative the thing, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>that the past three years.

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<v Speaker 5>But what they're doing is pretty much kind of as

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<v Speaker 5>you've been saying, which is they know obviously that people

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<v Speaker 5>are doing it tough.

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<v Speaker 9>They know that people are largely blaming it for so

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<v Speaker 9>we're saying, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Know we're giving you rat poison, but this guy's going

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<v Speaker 2>to give you a double rat poison dearly.

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<v Speaker 5>What you would say, and what I would prefer has said,

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<v Speaker 5>is that we know it's been really really tough, but

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<v Speaker 5>things will get better.

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<v Speaker 9>They are getting better.

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<v Speaker 5>And here's how right, But they know that nobody believes that,

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<v Speaker 5>so they just say, yes, we know things are tough,

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<v Speaker 5>but they will be even worse under done because there

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<v Speaker 5>so it's a double negative.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Promen and I think part of their deep thinking

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<v Speaker 2>four dy chess genius conversations around the lazy Susan as

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<v Speaker 2>it is for the Labor Party. Although I do love

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<v Speaker 2>a lemon chicken, no question, I think that that there's

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<v Speaker 2>some perception here that if they adopt some of the

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<v Speaker 2>language of COVID. Right, you saw the Prime Minister of

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<v Speaker 2>the past couple of days. Look, we've done the hard yards.

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<v Speaker 2>We're working on this together. We've all gotten through a

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<v Speaker 2>flat liqua.

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<v Speaker 9>No like Buggy, you gave us the crisis in the

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<v Speaker 9>first place.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got three pay rides, he's got three pay rises,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know enough rental cash coming through that he

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<v Speaker 2>buys the clifftop Manshen while anyone on a mortgage of

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred thousand dollars had to find fourteen grand in

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<v Speaker 2>the past three years. They are not going to forgive

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<v Speaker 2>him for that. But Labour's very good at pushing their message.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's your retort about how your side should be

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<v Speaker 2>fighting back?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it feels to me like they're not well.

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<v Speaker 6>When I watch that ad, even the cadence of it,

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<v Speaker 6>you'll be worse off. It sort of brings up it

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<v Speaker 6>won't be easy under Alban Easy. It's got the same cadence,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think it brings up that memory of that

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<v Speaker 6>which did stick in people's minds. Megan say, well, actually

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 6>it's right. It was rotten under Alban Easy. So they

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<v Speaker 6>obviously believe it's good. They've obviously run a past their

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 6>focus groups, they've done all their work and whatever. But

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<v Speaker 6>I remember sitting in on a campaign once I won't

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<v Speaker 6>say which one, and watching the presentation of the storyline

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<v Speaker 6>and the full box and dice and I there and

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<v Speaker 6>I thought, oh my god, this is not going to work,

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<v Speaker 6>and it didn't look.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not an advertising genius, but my immediate suggestion some

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<v Speaker 2>of the most effective political advertising I've seen, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the comparison style advertising. Remember when there was the ad

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<v Speaker 2>and then rud response to the how it happened, Then

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<v Speaker 2>Howard responds, and then eventually it becomes this more liberal

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 2>party should come to that ad straight away, same number

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<v Speaker 2>of tiles, same number of options, and reveal all of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that have been worse under our Beernesi and

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<v Speaker 2>with the simple line of you are worse off under

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<v Speaker 2>OLBERNICI see what happens, right, all right, I look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to the mocking if that idea of actually comes true.

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<v Speaker 2>So we know the federal government got itself into a

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<v Speaker 2>world of pain with the censory of the Internet that

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<v Speaker 2>they were trying to do last year about musoom informosion,

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<v Speaker 2>where they would decide the truth on they wouldn't just

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 2>a body they appoint would decide the information or the

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<v Speaker 2>independent fact checkers that have now, of course, all been

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<v Speaker 2>removed from many of the companies like Meta, Facebook and

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it. But there is a new

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<v Speaker 2>piece of legislation which presumably is going to get talked

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<v Speaker 2>up in the next couple of days and forced on

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<v Speaker 2>a vote in the next couple of weeks, which is

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<v Speaker 2>all about going after a whole bunch of other nasties

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<v Speaker 2>on the Internet. Now, Joe again, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>sit here and say, well, for the benefit of free speech,

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.800
<v Speaker 2>the following horrible garbages allowed on the Internet. No one's

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 2>going to sit in there, And that's not the game

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing. But I am going to see with the legislation,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's see letter for letter, paragraph for paragraph. How

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<v Speaker 2>much of the stuff they dumped is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in this one and the reason that everyone will have

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<v Speaker 2>to vote for it because the new legislation is about pedophiles.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think the way that it's going to work,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's just a matter of I suppose where the

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<v Speaker 5>line is and how it's actually I think even when

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<v Speaker 5>you see the legislation, a lot will come down to

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<v Speaker 5>how it's in force.

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<v Speaker 9>So you can imagine.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously I have a few concerns as well, I should declare,

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<v Speaker 5>and she hates me doing it, but I have to.

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<v Speaker 5>My wife as a campaign director for Equality Australia, so

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<v Speaker 5>she's one of the people pushing that organization, is one

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 5>of those pushing for it to go harder. So it

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<v Speaker 5>sits at the moment at a kind of incitement to

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<v Speaker 5>violence test and what they want is to extend to

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<v Speaker 5>racial or gender or vilification or whatever based on any

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<v Speaker 5>of those characteristics. Now, the problem with that is that

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 5>one person's vilification is another person's joke or you know,

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 5>or valid criticism of, say, you know, a particular ideology

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<v Speaker 5>or religion or whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 9>And so it will be.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll have to be designed very very carefully. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think you do appreciate when you see the anti Semitic

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 5>attacks and you know, f the Jews and etcetera, etcetera,

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 5>clearly there has to be some kind of circum brking.

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 5>I think the bigger problem is that sentiment is there.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think laws make people change.

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<v Speaker 2>This most thing. Last time I checked, it's already illegal

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 2>to fire bomb child Cassy. It's already illegal to have

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 2>something full of explosives brom when this is my issue,

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 2>right and again, you know, maybe it's how many angels

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 2>on a pinhead, But I think there's sort of some

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 2>key principles in all of this, right, which is that

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 2>we have a government that has already spent a couple

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:38.760
<v Speaker 2>of years trying to censor the Internet, who won't censor,

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 2>by the way, the Chinese surveillance apps that are either

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 2>social media or AI, but they ban them off their

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.439
<v Speaker 2>own computers. And again, I think what this is really

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>about is the next two weeks trying to force Peter

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 2>it up into a scenario where you had a chance

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 2>to vote against re antisemitism and you and you you didn't.

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 2>You had a chance to shut down pornography and you didn't.

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>That's the wedge they're.

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Trying to play. So that's why they're going to I'll

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>tell you when they will have released the text of

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 2>this about ten minutes before it's voted on.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I thought they can't quite do that. It's got

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 6>to be brought into the Parliament and there's got to

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 6>be a second reading speech. But look at it this way.

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 6>We've got two problems. We've got a judiciary that is

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 6>weak correct, and we've got the problem of anti Semitism

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.320
<v Speaker 6>which is real and has been lad to fester because

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.919
<v Speaker 6>of a weak prime minister. So they are the two

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.439
<v Speaker 6>problems that should be addressed. So you do it by

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 6>having a mandatory sentence, which is what Darton suggested. And

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 6>now Burke raced in tonight and said, oh, we're got

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 6>to have mandatory sentencing.

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Even though the Labour Party, by the way, voted against

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>multiple times mandatory sentencing for illegal gun importation. Oh, because

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 2>we don't believe in manatory sentencing. Because they think somehow,

0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:58.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, a year.

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 6>Olds to the territory, an't there so far being to

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 6>watch the details kids, they know they're so far behind

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 6>on the anti Semitism issue because of their weakness, and

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 6>they're pandering to win seats in Western Sydney and people

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 6>know that. And now they're trying to make up ground,

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 6>which is why Burke's raced in there. And they had

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 6>to be Burke, didn't it.

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 2>No, he's seen the light at a minute too. I've

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.439
<v Speaker 2>got one minute left. I've got one minute left, which

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 2>gives me Brom with the chance. Your observation of Trump today,

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 2>I know you wanted to talk about it because I

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 2>love you. You've got the floor.

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 6>Well, I thought what Trump did today was the ultimate disruptor.

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 6>He came in. I was watching it and when he

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 6>said it, I thought, oh god. And then you start

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 6>to think about what is he trying to do? And

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 6>he is trying to get the Arabs to come in

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 6>and take responsibility.

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 2>You're going to play for a guitar? Well, because they've

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 2>been they've been harboring her masks and they're the ones

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:53.399
<v Speaker 2>that have been buoquer quote unquote.

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 5>Gar gently weeps. Yeah, it's just true. It's just Trump

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 5>being Trump. It's just Trump like right, you guys want.

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:01.720
<v Speaker 1>How many people fell into this today?

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 10>But they do a pissed off for we defending it.

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 10>This is exactly what he did with the tariffs in Canada.

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 10>Suddenly says, I'll do whatever you want. He sees this

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 10>Grdian not the old people, the old faces, the old

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 10>tactics haven't worked. Says right, you won't come to an arrangement.

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 10>We're just going to cut the whole thing. We'll just

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 10>buy guys, how do you like that?

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 5>And then just as her must suddenly started releasing hostages

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 5>when he said I unleash hell, yes, you will find that.

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 5>Suddenly they're much more amenable to reaching your negotiating, negotiated solution.

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 6>He says, quite clearly, oil stuff hasn't worked, correct, d

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 6>you since the speak agreement.

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Which you will educate it this whole next week.

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 2>We'll do it earlier. I just got to get out

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 2>of here because we've got Meghan Kelly up in a

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 2>moment or two. Thank you guys to appreciate it, so

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 2>you will be next week, all.

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Right, A quick break than the one of all Meghan Kelly.

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 2>She's fired up tonight plenty to talk about, including the

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.240
<v Speaker 2>stuff you don't really see about how America is changing

0:40:53.239 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>for the bed Warness favorite time of the week to

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 2>talk to out favorite person in the world. What a

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 2>way to say good ay to Meghan Kelly.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Lovely to see you, Rock, Stay, you've.

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 7>Been hi, It's great to be here. I've been wonderful.

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's day what fifteen of Donald Trump as president

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 2>and he has already done more in fifteen days than

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>the last bloke did, let's be honest in his hole

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 2>four but maybe twenty years before that.

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I love the pace of change.

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I love that he's actually just just going root and branch, buggerant,

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>let's go after all the big problems. And he's going

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 2>to have two soldiers with him. Well, let's see how

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 2>the Senate goes. But basically the first hurdles have now

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>been cleared. RFK in health, Tulsi Gabbard in and around

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the national intelligence agencies. Both of these people are great because,

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 2>just like Trump, they see the problem and there's no

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 2>such thing as the too hard basket.

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 7>That's right, and they're not owned by anybody. That's one

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 7>of the most delightful things about them. You know. RFKJ

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 7>has had a lifetime of being being oppositional to big

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 7>Pharma and some of these other large corporate interests, and

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 7>so as Tulsi like Tulsi has had a lifetime of

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 7>questioning the intel agencies and the tactics they're using, and

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 7>whether they're coloring inside the lines when it comes to

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 7>their constitutional mandates and restraints. And that's why they're not

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 7>that popular with the groups they're about to go not

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 7>rule over, but at least have some authority in dealing with,

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 7>which is all the more reason why it's very important

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 7>that they get confirmed and do exactly that. The American

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 7>people left to Trump because the country's not working for them.

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 7>It needed a makeover, or like a serious makeover, and

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 7>you can't make over the country with the cabinet that

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 7>looks just like the last cabinet, including the last cabinet

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 7>of Trump's. We didn't really have a makeover under him.

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 7>He was still figuring out how do I get my

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 7>agenda through. He was taking people's recommendations on, oh, this

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 7>guy's good, you need this guy here, and we later

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 7>found out that many of those people were working against

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 7>Trump and for the so called deep state, which is

0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.439
<v Speaker 7>really just another word for establishment types who were entrench

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 7>in the government and don't want to change a thing anyway.

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 7>Trump's ripping all the band aids off, starting a new

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 7>in almost every area, and as the kids say, I

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 7>am here for it.

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 2>The thing that I think is really interesting, And maybe

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 2>it's just because you know, we have such a positive

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 2>view of what these people are going to do, But

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I like that we're sort of getting to this stage

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 2>where I don't care who you slept with twenty years ago.

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what happened in college. What's your plan

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 2>to do with the job you're about to have? And

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 2>RFKJ and we've talked about this for such a long time,

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 2>and you've done hours and hours and hours of sit

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:42.720
<v Speaker 2>downs with this guy. Right when he was running for president,

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.919
<v Speaker 2>I remember playing a tape from one of his very

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 2>many speeches where he points out the obvious America is fat,

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's sick, and it has chronic diseases that he

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 2>didn't have when his uncle and his father were in

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the white And anyone who loves America

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>knows that's exactly true.

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 7>One hundred percent. And I also feel like, I don't know,

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 7>if you are electing a pope, you need to know

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 7>about the love life, you need to know about serious

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 7>moral personal failings. It's very relevant to the job. But

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 7>in twenty twenty five, you know, America, Australia. I just

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 7>feel like at this point we just need to get

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 7>done just we really need to overhaul these institutions that

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:35.919
<v Speaker 7>have been stuck mired in their own bad habits for

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:40.879
<v Speaker 7>decades now. And so rfkj No, I would not date him.

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 7>I would not date Pete Hegseth either. I wouldn't. But

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 7>I love Pete and I think Bobby's great too. To

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.720
<v Speaker 7>have dinner with them, you know, I can be friends

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 7>with them, and I would one hundred percent vote for

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 7>them for the positions they're in. Pete's already doing a

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 7>great job over at Defense, and Bobby's going to do

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:00.799
<v Speaker 7>a great job over at health. He's an expert on

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 7>the very things that you just ticked off that we

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 7>need somebody to look at.

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I also think it's important to note I've been sort

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 2>of trying to watch what's the pattern of each and

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 2>every day because then, akay, when things get worse, this

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 2>is going to get louder, or if things get better,

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 2>then this is going to get softer. Right, And clearly,

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the things that's very different this time around

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 2>is that you know, the four AM tweets that fed

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 2>into the breakfast television that then he was reacting to

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 2>by the middle of the day before people reacted to

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:34.879
<v Speaker 2>the reaction, and then the feedback loop continues that, sure,

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 2>he's still banging out the truth socials, but because he's

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:39.879
<v Speaker 2>doing these sort of look, I'm sitting at the desk,

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 2>got any questions for me, guys? You know quick yep, no, yes,

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.439
<v Speaker 2>bang bang bang, that some of the people around him

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 2>have worked out how to let that part of his

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 2>personality fly. But also it means it's being done in

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 2>a quite authoritative setting. It's again, it's not the theory

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.800
<v Speaker 2>of him sitting on the toilet at a him. Is

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 2>him sitting behind the oval doing his job. And I

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 2>think that whoever's behind that, and if it's Trump himself, awesome,

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 2>most likely probably not whoever's put him in that space,

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 2>they know how to get the best out of him

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 2>and what's good for him, because otherwise you end up

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 2>in this feedback loop of outrage.

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely Trump needs to be talking to the people. He

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 7>needs it. He needs to be in front of a

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 7>camera or in front of a microphone. It's his oxygen

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 7>and it's not just Trump. I have to say one

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 7>of the nice things about this new administration fifteen days in,

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 7>is how transparent and accessible they've all been. You know,

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 7>Pete Heseth put out a video just talk about what

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 7>he's about to do, right from his desk at the

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 7>Department of Defense before. Never seen that from a Pentagon chief.

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 7>Sean Duffy, same thing. Let me give you the latest

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 7>on the airline disaster that we had over the Potomac.

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 7>And then there's another flight that went down in Philadelphia

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 7>on Friday night. Like, here's exactly what we're doing. This

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 7>is what I've done. I brought these people in. It

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:58.799
<v Speaker 7>doesn't always have to be a big presser, right, it

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 7>can just be the actual guy saying, I know what's

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 7>on your mind. Here's what I'm doing to combat it.

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 7>And that's what Trump's doing, whether it's from the Oval

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 7>or you know, on Marine one wherever he is, just

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 7>popping into the press briefing room. His press secretary has

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 7>been very visible too, Like they really are a vibrant, modern,

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 7>visible presidency. If you could envision the polar opposite of

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 7>the Joe Biden administration, that's what we're experiencing over here.

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 7>You forget, you forget that Trump is seventy eight, Like

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 7>I noticed something. Paul Elon Musk is constantly on X constantly,

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:42.359
<v Speaker 7>and I don't know how he does it, because look

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 7>at all good he's doing. It's like rescuing astronauts from space.

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:51.280
<v Speaker 7>It's shooting rockets of his own up there. He runs Tesla,

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 7>which is an innovative electric vehicle company. He runs the

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 7>Boring company where they're trying to bore it through all

0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.919
<v Speaker 7>this underground cave material so that we can have high

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 7>speed trains. He runs the Neuralink company, where they're literally

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 7>trying to solve paralysis and have figured out how to

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.240
<v Speaker 7>put something in somebody's brain such that they can control

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 7>the computer just with their thoughts. That's what I think.

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:14.480
<v Speaker 7>I'm He runs X, he runs Twitter and is on Twitter.

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:18.760
<v Speaker 7>I'm exhausted. I need a nap just talking about it. Well,

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 7>Trump is the same. That's exactly how Trump is. And

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 7>I don't know if he's just built that way or

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<v Speaker 7>if it's the pseudo fed which I do know he likes.

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<v Speaker 7>But whatever it is, it's they're both constantly awake, alert

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<v Speaker 7>and ready for more. So again, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 7>be married to that like that. I'd be like, go

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<v Speaker 7>to bed. I'm tired, for the love of Pete. But

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<v Speaker 7>I do like it in an executive and a billionaire

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<v Speaker 7>who wants to work for us for free. It's this

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<v Speaker 7>pairing that I think will truly change the world. But

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<v Speaker 7>we are three to two one from hearing the reports

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<v Speaker 7>over in Politico of the journalists and how tired they are.

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<v Speaker 7>It's don't stop chaos and they can't take this, and

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<v Speaker 7>they're all on antidepressants.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Be had a chance to talk about earlier this morning

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<v Speaker 2>before all of the Trump gars and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That's our show for tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you again tomorrow.