WEBVTT - Me Taking Sides With…. Gia? The Latest Drama Explained 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:02.920 Hello, and welcome back to the Math twenty podcast, and 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.600 welcome to a statement I'm about to say which may 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:06.840 shock some of you. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:08.520 It's even a shock to me. 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:12.920 Still, I am slightly in disbelief, but I must publicly 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.439 put this out there that as of right now this morning, 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:22.840 I stand with Gea on one specific small issue that 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.799 has happened in the past week. I thought that hell 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:30.640 would freeze over before I ever found myself taking Gea's 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:36.520 side on anything in life. But here we are, August nineteenth, 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:38.480 and I've been thinking about this one for a few 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.199 days now, and I have to say, I think, for 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.520 potentially the first time, well I don't want to say 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:48.960 in her life, for the first time in our lives 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.559 of even knowing Gia's existence, I think I have to 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:54.600 give her the benefit of the doubt here and go, 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.120 you know what, Yeah, I agree with you. The other 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:04.280 person here is in the wrong. But before we get 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.720 to that, let's just start with some other news. It 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.120 was the Logis a few days ago. Experts John and 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.760 Alessandra were there. They did a few interviews on the 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.959 red carpet, and as expected, everybody was asking how filling 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.480 the new series is going without the lovely Mel Shilling 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:22.639 there by their side. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.720 It's a little bit of sweet because you know, with 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.160 Mel not being here now, it's it's sort of, you know, 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.120 difficult at times, but you know, we are flying. They 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.480 married at first side flag. Yes, it's very different this year, 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:39.080 but we are really enjoying the process of creating something new. Also, well, 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.039 it's early on in the experiment, so with that being 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:45.640 the case, they're really being tested in terms of whether 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.400 they are able to open up and let someone in 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:49.880 or whether they're just going to keep to their old 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:54.400 patterns and basically rule people out. So that's always fascinating 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.080 to see who dives in. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.920 As of right now, Channel nine are yet to officially 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.320 announce the new AX, which I spoke about in the 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:02.720 last episode of this podcast. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.840 She's called doctor Doctor Love. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.320 My name is doctor Love, and I'm a relationship expert if. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:09.640 You ask me. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.320 They're delaying officially announcing her, and so they can legally 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.079 change that name because this show is laughable at the 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.080 best of times, and to bring in an expert with 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.040 the name doctor Love, I'm sorry, but come on, if 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.400 you want us to actually take this show seriously, you're 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:23.760 gonna have to do her name change. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:25.480 There's no other way around it. 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.360 That's like me being introducing myself, like Hi, I missed 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:32.160 the podcast actually was is that her legal name? 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:33.280 Let me get Google up? 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.400 This is another podcast where I haven't written a script 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:39.960 to bear with me, Okay can confirm not her real 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:45.280 name in the slightest She is legally known as bridget Zonta, 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.920 which doesn't roll off the tongue as much. But maybe 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.960 I would take that a bit more seriously than Doctor Love. 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.440 It's still I wonder how long it's gonna take until 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:55.720 I don't laugh when I have to. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.720 Say that my name is doctor Love and I'm a 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:58.800 relationship expert. 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.080 Other news from the mass world this week is Chris 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.360 and Beck have been back on TikTok Live, which you 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.480 know they were all doing a few months ago, and 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.200 by the looks of this live from the other day, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.079 they were also back on the Wines. I didn't watch it, 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.280 but chatter kind of clipped up this moment where Chris 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.840 was talking about if he's still friends with. 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:26.760 Gia, is Crystal friends with gr No? No, what happened? No? 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.800 Now, I've got to say, when I saw that clip, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.000 I did just like roll my eyes a little bit, 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:33.800 because like does that come a point in all of 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:37.280 our lives? So you just grow up and move on, 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.440 and like, Okay, if you're not friends with someone anymore, 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.960 either don't draw attention to it, or if you are 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.440 going to draw attention to, actually discuss it in like 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.680 a mature, growed up way, like you know, go into 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:55.200 the the complexities of friendships as adults, especially navigating that 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:57.800 when you've got like a public profile and there's a 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.600 lot of interest talk about this concept with I've always 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.400 found fascinating of like how do you break up with 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.680 a friend? Like we all know how to end romantic relationships, 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.960 but this idea of breaking up with a friend, and 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:12.640 I've had that the last couple of years. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.560 It was one person. 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.480 Like as the years past and the more we'd catch 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:19.120 up like every few months as a little group, I 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:23.320 found myself maybe not aligning too much with them and 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.120 having less in common. And then I just thought, I'm 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.960 leaving these catchups feeling like drained in a weird way 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.200 and not great. And then I question, like the there's 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.840 been a few instances like this in my life. I question, like, 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.880 if I met this person present day, is that somebody 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.680 I would be friends with or am I just seeing 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.159 them because you know we met or five years ago, 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.800 ten years ago, whatever, Like I've always found that topic 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.000 fascinating and like Chris, you know whatever the issue with 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.520 Geir is, like, if you're not going to go into it. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.560 Don't do a little giggle like am I friends with Geer? 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:57.839 No? 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.279 Like to me, that's just and. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.720 This isn't any shape to Chris, I don't think I've 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.440 ever actually spoken to the guy. It's just like talking 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.560 in general, like we're all grown ups. After I saw 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.120 that little clip of Chris and Beck, though, I did 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.279 stop and think, like, oh shit, I've been so busy lately. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.960 I literally have no idea what most of these people 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.240 are up to. And then I just you know, opened 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:24.120 Insta open TikTok, had a little scroll because I was 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.960 quite curious the like, how are they all settling back 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.560 into their normal lives now they've got like, you know, 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.520 an audience on social media? Like are any of them 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:38.000 offering up any content of substance and depth to their 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.760 new found followers? In the first page I landed on, 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.279 was Alyssa enough for surely Alyssa who knows the world 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:48.960 of social media can be offering something that could inspire people, Like, 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.839 what content can she put out to the world that's 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:52.800 gonna make people go. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.839 Yes, I can't believe it's been well over eight months 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.880 since my last dental check up and take for any session. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.400 Oh okay, yep, not really what I was expecting when 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.720 I opened that video and TikTok, But then I thought, 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.240 you know what, let's give it the benefit of the doubt. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.120 Let me let me scroll down a little bit. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.119 Let me just click on a random of a video 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:18.280 from recent times and think, surely Alyssa has something beneficial 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.799 to put out the two hundred and eighty eight thousand 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:26.239 people following her TikTok. Surely she's got something to offer 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:31.719 them of again, substance and depth and inspiration and yeah 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:32.479 the play. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.159 One thing Mass taught me was never under estimate a 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.960 good night sleep. Between moving house and getting back into 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.640 some kind of normal routine, It's been very much reset 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.360 your energy. And I realized I'm actually at that age 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.479 where a good mattress is exciting, slightly concerning that. 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.960 Here we are fucking hell, And then a thought, all right, 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.760 next up, who we got? And I clicked over to 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.040 Joel remember Joel. He was fun, he was a laughing 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.520 he was like I hung out with him once briefly. 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.719 He was nice guys. And I thought, surely, Joel, like 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.840 he's offering some great content. You know, there's surely some 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.599 fascinating things he could be talking about and offering his 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.440 quirky perspective on and I pressed player and his last 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.840 video posted one day ago, and listen to this. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.720 Do you think you think having a teddy is manly? 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:19.960 Yes, we do, gea. 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.840 Do you think taking your teddy for walk is manley? 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:23.280 Hm? 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.480 Go down in the woods today? 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.840 You're sure of a big surprise. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.840 Joel is still talking about his teddy Bear and like, 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:33.760 don't get me wrong, I even made a video with 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.760 Teddy's with him at the time, And like, I agree, 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.440 grown men, no shame have a teddy bear, talk about 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.960 your teddy bear, show that teddy Bear to the world, 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.160 but also don't make the teddy Bear your entire personality. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.280 Months have passed. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.000 I don't want to sound mean, but find something else 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:52.080 to post. 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.920 For the love of God, Am I being meaning this podcast? 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.040 Are we all? Are we all thinking the same? 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.480 Like like the people are mentioning here, I don't really 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.480 have anything against them, but it's just like so much 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.960 time has passed since their series, like so much life 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.560 has passed all of us. Like in On Life, moves fast, 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.280 move with it, don't keep just you know, trying to 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.200 flog shit like Alyssa. No one cares you've just been 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.000 to the dentist. And also no one cares that you've 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.840 got a new mattress. I don't mean to be mean, 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.040 but again I don't think there's I'd say, arguably, how 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.760 many billion people are in the world, I would argue 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:31.680 that three of them care that you went to the dentist. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:35.800 That's free people and Joel like we backed the teddy 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.200 thing at the time, but find something else. And I'm 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:42.120 going to offer some free, unsolicited advice here to any 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.439 of the cast if they're listening, but also to everybody. 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.320 Like my day job, a lot of you know, is 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.440 in social media and content, and I work with a 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:56.120 fair few, like more like mainstream celebrities rather than reality stars, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.880 and I come up with like strategies and content plans 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:04.360 and things like that, and the difference between somebody like 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.920 making it on social media and actually building and engaged 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.280 following that will stand the test of time, and like 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.840 people will then care if you've been to the dentist. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.960 Is like just being real with them and not just 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.680 milking things like the Teddy to death. Like stand for 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.600 certain things and topics and issues that you know affect 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:31.080 all of us. Like use your platform to I don't 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.200 want to say, just raise awareness, but talk about these 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.319 things that are going to help people either feel seen 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.440 or part of something or connected, and like build a 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:45.440 community through your followers. And then once you do that, 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.280 that's how people will then care about the more boring 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.560 parts of your life. Like, oh, I've been to the dentist. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:56.160 But if you're only offering them superficial in the nicest way, shit, 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.680 you can't build a career as a creator or public figure. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.640 And like, I know some people find her polarizing, but 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.240 Abby Chatfield, it's just a perfect example of you know, 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.680 she found fame on a reality show, and very quickly 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.000 after that show she moved on. I don't think she's 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.960 mentioned it in and I've not seen her mention it 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.520 in years because it's not her personality. She gained a 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.640 platform from there, but then she used that platform to 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.560 talk about, you know, issues she's passionate about and that 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:29.240 other women especially are passionate about and that built her 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:34.880 a predominantly female audience. All these mass people they come 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:38.480 off the show and they either go, well, I'm now 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.280 super famous, so I'm just gonna flog a load of 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.200 shit and promote mattresses and going to the dentists because 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.120 I'm a star. I know you're you're quickly gonna lose 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.560 followers and your engagement rate is going to drop to 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.400 nothing that you then don't get any more brand deals 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:53.920 or are you going to go the opposite way and 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.680 you're just gonna make mass your entire personality and you'll 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.960 be like Joel, Wait, you know, four or five months leg, 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:05.960 you're still making content around storylines that we've all long forgotten. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.080 Like does that make sense to everyone? 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.400 Like, surely it does, But often I think things that 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.200 are obvious to me maybe aren't to everybody else. But 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.400 back to the point of this podcast and me siding 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.560 with Jea. That brings me to my next former cast 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.520 member of this year whose page I recently landed on, 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.199 and that was Julia Hi. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:26.079 I'm Julia. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:31.440 I am thirty six from Melbourne. I've been working in 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.880 TV for a very long time. I'm also a communication 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.560 speaking coach, have my own business called Talker Sheep Academy, 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.119 and I'm the founder of product called Winegasm. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.840 Now, for any of you who have forgotten who Julia was, 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.360 she was the bisexual bride who was matched with a 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.679 man named Grayson. And in the adverts, you know it 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.640 was like will she get a guy or a girl 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.080 because she's bisexual, and like her sexuality was essentially just 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.440 made her entire personality, not by her but by the 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.600 network the promos, and then you know she's mattually racingly 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.079 didn't really get on I don't barely remember them, to 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.800 be honest, to go on the show for two seconds, 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.600 and then since then they've kind of just fizzled away. 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.360 But now Julia. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:16.400 Has been back and she's created a game like a 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:21.400 card game that she's releasing or has released, called mind Gasm, 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.640 which this is the description. Mind Gasm is so much 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.480 more than just a game. It's a response to how 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:33.199 we date now. We live in a culture of fast swipes, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:40.400 quick hookups, and fleeting connections. Everything feels superficial, especially if 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.719 you're watching Alyssa go to the dents that she did. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.600 For that, I've just added that one Julia Julia sorry 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.880 goes on to say, when I was unmarried at first sight, 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.400 I experienced this firsthand. I wanted to feel connected to 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.480 my partner and build emotional intimacy first, before we jumped 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.680 head first into bed. People laughed at me and thought 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.120 I was weird. I honestly daily remind their storylines. Anyway, 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.680 she goes on, this is the advert for the game, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:06.560 by the way, but for me, emotional chemistry has always 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:11.880 been the precursor to sexual chemistry. What does precursor mean? 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.080 And I've since realized I'm far from the only one 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:20.120 who feels that way. So I created the exact thing 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.840 I wish I had in my back pocket at the time. 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:30.120 Mind Gasm is fun, playful, spicy, and vulnerable. It's an 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:36.200 invitation to ask better questions and to lead with curiosity. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.160 Mind Gasm is officially live PREORDI or mind Gasm Game Today. 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.280 Apparel collection available now, website, linking my bio. Thank you 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.360 to everyone has supported me bringing this game to life. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.040 I just want to point out I'm not being paid 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.880 to promote this because that felt like an advert. So yeah, anyway, 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.760 here's the drama and the GF thing. So Julia's made 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:53.120 a game. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:53.520 Great. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.480 To go back to my previous point, She's gained a 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.680 little following from Maths. She's probably looked at the analytics 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.960 of that. I would assume it's likely women of a 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.800 similar age. She's probably going, well, what am I passionate about? 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.679 What do I stand for? What do they likely stand for? 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.560 And then she's come up with this game to sell 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.720 to them, which actually great idea. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:13.440 Cannot knock it at all. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.360 But now the issue is last week she was doing 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.640 a launch party for that, and she invited several former cast. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.520 Members, including Gea. 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.520 But then as the day got closer and closer, she 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.960 then decided to uninvite Jea. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:34.240 Julia from my season of Maths. Right, we talk like 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.200 here and there, like not a lot. But she was 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.480 kind enough to send me her new She was kind 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.320 of to send me her new card game mind Gus 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.960 and I was like, oh, this is so lovely. And 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.360 she DMed me and was like, I would love you 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:54.880 to come to the event that I'm doing on Friday, 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.760 which is tonight, and I would love you and Alan 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.480 to come. And I was like, oh my gosh. She 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.640 lives in Melbourne. I'm in Melbourne. Already like sure. So 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.600 I was like, great, we'll come. And this was like 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.800 maybe two weeks ago she asked us, and I was like, yeah, great. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:15.120 And then she last week said, oh, you know it's 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.080 getting sold out. Do you still definitely want to go 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.040 because otherwise I'll give you a ticket away? And I 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:24.720 was like no, no, no, we're coming. Anyways, two days ago, 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.400 I get a DM from her, and I'm not blaming her. 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.600 She's not at fault here, but I'm just going to 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:34.000 show the DM that she sent me. Pause to read 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:35.000 that if you want to. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.680 The text message that Jia just flashed up in that 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.480 TikTok read, Hey, honey, I wanted to reach out to 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:44.600 you personally about Friday. A couple of concerns have been 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.200 raised by attendees that I need to take seriously, and 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.760 after a long thought, I've had to make the really 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:55.120 difficult decision to withdraw your invitation to the event. I 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.800 want to be really clear that this is not about 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.120 you and I or a reflect of how I personally 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.240 feel about you. It's simply a decision I've had to 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:08.080 make as the person hosting the event, taking into consideration 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.160 the comfort of everybody who will be there. I know 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.320 this may feel hurtful, and I'm genuinely sorry to put 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:19.160 you in this position. It wasn't an easy decision to make. Ultimately, 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.920 I've had to decide what will be best for the event. 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.400 I really hope you can understand that this doesn't change 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.520 where I stand with you personally, love heart. 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.240 Now, to me, that is. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:37.400 A shit go so as you can see, some people 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.000 have been uncomfortable attendees by my mere presence or potential 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.920 presence of me and my boyfriend being at the event. 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:45.720 I just want to make something very clear. I was 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.280 just at an event with half of the cast, some 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.800 that don't like me, and absolutely nothing happened, nothing took place. 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.040 I think people need to let go of the petty bullshit. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.720 It's been over a year. Who cares. No one is 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.400 going pregnant and going to start some stuff. It's just 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.720 not gonna happen from me at all ever, Like it's 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.840 just not And to be honest, it says more about 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.399 that person or those people than it does about me, 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.320 because I have no problem being anywhere with anybody at 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.520 any event, because I just know my aura and my 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.440 vibe is just like, no bullshit, no drama, I will 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.639 walk in and be polite and then go to the 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.160 other side of the room so that I don't make 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.959 somebody uncomfortable. But as much of these as these people 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.600 say that I was a bully or whatnot, this is 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:34.400 also bullying to purposely exclude somebody from something and make 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.400 the person hosting the event feel so uncomfortable that she'd 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:42.439 had to uninvite me and my partner because other people 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.399 were saying that they don't want me there. I just think, like, 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.800 that's just petty, it's just stupid. Grow up. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.639 And this is the thing of what I dislike about, 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.480 like influence, the culture that creates a culture, like even 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.760 just the media celebi world of like how people are 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:03.480 privately versus how yeah publicly. And you know, I don't 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.640 think I've agreed with a single thing Gia has said 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.040 or done since we started watching her on the show. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.119 But I don't really know Gia personally. I had a 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.360 few experiences a long time ago now. But Julia does 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.600 know Gia personally, and she obviously sees something in Gia 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.119 that she either considers like a friend or an acquaintance 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.679 or something, or she sees some good there to the 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.280 extent that you know, she was happy to invite Gia 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.280 to her event, but then when other people says, oh, 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.040 I don't like Gia, she's then gone, well, oh shit, yeah, 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.359 I don't one to invite yea. And that to me, 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.200 it's like, nah, if you are actually you know, you 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.560 actually see some good in Gia and consider her a 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.560 friend of some kind and you did want to there, 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.680 and it's your event, stand by that. Don't let other 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.800 people dictate your own guest list. Like again, it's your 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:56.080 event for your game. And to then uninvite someone because 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.280 other people have said, oh, I'd be uncomfortable because I 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.320 didn't like her on the show, I didn't like watching 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.800 her in the Telly. It's like you're just bowing down 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.760 to the masses. And this may sound a bit of 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.960 like a controversial take now, and I'm kind of making 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.159 this a lot broader, but this is what I really 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:16.360 hate about the concept of cancel culture, and its why 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.959 for years I was so hesitant to even start a 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.880 podcast or leaning to doing more contact myself. Because these 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.399 days this isn't about g and now because like, no offense, 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.800 but your behavior on the show is shit. But like 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:29.800 in the broadest sense, like you see so many people 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.400 out there, and they may make a slip up and 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.520 say something that's taken out of context, or say something 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:39.359 that is just not great, but there is often not 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.480 bad intent. But then like other creators would then jump 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.360 on that and it's like a Pilon effect. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.119 Where they'll be like, I can't believe this. 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.920 This person has previously said they stand for these things, 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.560 and now they've said this one thing. They should not 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.159 have a platform, they should have their accounts deleted and 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.119 no one should ever listen to them again, and they 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.680 should be banished from society. 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.920 And it's like, often it's not. 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.800 That deep, and like when it comes to cancel culture, 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.040 I think, you know, if someone is out there spewing 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:14.119 hatred and inciting hatred and violencer, or you know, if 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:18.320 they're convicted of these horrific things and actually it's deserving 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:20.840 to deplatform them, then I think that is where cancel 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:26.119 culture is great. But often it becomes this thing where 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:30.600 if you like follow someone for example, and every single 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.879 thing they do and say doesn't align with every single 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.040 fot you have, then suddenly it's like I can't believe 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.679 you would do that, or does this make any sense? 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.720 I think years ago when that phrase cancel culture became 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:47.200 a thing. It was a good thing and a good 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.000 movement where the masses were going. Actually, this person whoever 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.040 was being canceled, you know, someone like Harvey Weinstein for example, 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.600